HomeMy WebLinkAboutEvergreen_PEC120808_AttachB_lettersAttachment B:
Letters from Adjacent Property Owners
Evergreen Redevelopment
Applications for Major Exterior Alteration
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PEC080033
PEC080072
Planning and Environmental Commission
Work Session
December 8, 2008
(12/01/2008) Rachel Friede - Fairmont VaFil Development IssuePage 1
From: Orv Petersen <orv@pdsdata.net>
To:<rfriede@vailgov.com>
Date: 11/29/2008 2:41 PM
Subject: Fairmont VaFil Development Issue
Rachel: As an owner of a condo unit at Vail International, I strongly
object to the irrational attempt by the developer of the Fairmont - and
by the town of Vail - to create an unneeded and unwanted walkway from
the South Frontage Road along Middle Creek connecting to Meadow Drive.
The walkway itself makes no sense whatsoever in this location.
It's particularly annoying to note that the developer of that project
also simply wishes to move a proposed walkway from their side of the
stream to the side closer to Vail International. What a ridiculously
self serving request. That developer's attempt to relieve themselves of
the burden of having to create and pay for this (still) useless walkway
makes no sense at all.
Further. Middle Creek is a historic spawning habitat for trout that
eventually enter Gore Creek which is currently designated as a Gold
Medal Trout Stream. Destroying or modifying the riparian habitat along
Middle Creek has a hugely detrimental effect on aquatic life in that
stream. I have previously documented problems caused by the Town of
Vail when they arbitrarily removed bank side shrubbery and delimbed
trees along the stream close to the Dobson Arena. Suzanne Silverthorne
can attest to this fact.
Should the town make any attempt or plan to remove or alter the
streamside vegetation on this creek, I would immediately file a
complaint with the Colorado Department of Wildlife.
Please cancel this attempted walkway development. There are far better
places to locate such an access point for employees - the best being to
the east side of the proposed Fairmont Vail project.
Sincerely,
O. R. Petersen
Unit 111
Vail International Condominiums
(12/01/2008) Rachel Friede - Comments concerning Fairmont VailPage 1
From: "Sue Froeschle" <sfroesch1@juno.com>
To:<rfriede@vailgov.com>
Date: 11/29/2008 3:16 PM
Subject: Comments concerning Fairmont Vail
Rachel, could you please ensure that this e-mail is included in the Planning and Environmental
Commissioners packet for their Dec. 8, 2008, meeting.
I have attended the past two meetings regarding the redevelopment of the Evergreen property, to be
known as Fairmont Vail. I was dumbfounded when I discovered the developer is now proposing two
options for the river walk located on the west-side of Middle Creek. I regret that I did not speak up at
these meetings regarding this proposal as now it appears as sour grapes.
I have lived at Vail International since 2000. Furthermore, I own two dogs and consequently I walk them
several times a day from early in the morning to late at night. I have never seen a flood or much more
than a trickle of people at the bus stop in front of US Bank. Of course, it gets used, but there are so
many other stops that are used with greater demand. Consequently, I see no benefit to an access point
in between the Fairmont and Vail International that a river walk would provide.
The developer has vocally expressed to the Commission that they do not understand why the Town of
Vail is requiring this river walk. That said, they know they must satisfy this requirement in order to get
approval for their project.
It makes absolutely no sense to construct this on the west side of Middle Creek when the project
proposed is on the east side. Frankly, I see no point in an access route on either side. Once
constructed, the Town of Vail will need to spend taxpayer dollars to maintain this pathway.
Neither proposal is ADA compliant which contradicts past efforts of the town to make our community
more accessible.
Another key concern is the riparian area along Middle Creek. As a periodic fly fishing guide and member
of Trout Unlimited, I am amazed you would even consider impacting this stretch of water. Any removal or
thinning of trees and vegetation along the bank will have an adverse impact to a tributary that feeds into
Gore Creek – a state recognized Gold Medal water.
I am fully aware of mitigation work that could take place. I have a masters degree in environmental
management, and I am a retired Forest Service employee. I have written, reviewed, and commented on
countless environmental impact statements. If the town believes a pathway from the Frontage Rd. to
Meadow drive truly is needed, than I think an alternative route should be considered. The east end of
Fairmont Vail would have far less impact on the environment and would provide better access to the Vail
Valley Medical Center.
I urge you to carefully consider an alternate route away from Middle Creek or dropping this requirement
altogether.
Sue Froeschle
(pronounced "freshly")
sfroesch1@juno.com
970-476-4053
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(12/01/2008) Rachel Friede - FW: IMPORTANT - Evergreen redevelopmentPage 1
From: "Andrea R. Haigh" <mrsandrea@gmail.com>
To:<rfriede@vailgov.com>
Date: 11/29/2008 9:25 PM
Subject: FW: IMPORTANT - Evergreen redevelopment
CC:"'Sue Froeschle'" <sfroesch1@juno.com>, "'Snowden Smith'" <snowden@vaili...
Dear Ms. Friede,
Thank you for your concern and oversight of our beautiful Vail and Lionshead
Villages.
Having been a full time resident at Vail International, I fully agree with
Sue Froeschle's points regarding the placement of the pedestrian bridge,
(see her letter below). My mother is a naturalist and scientist and is in
total agreement with Ms. Froeschle as well. We also agree with the
alternative bridge location.
Thank you for your appreciation and conveyance to the developer.
Very Sincerely,
Andrea R. Haigh
Owner, Vail International Condominiums
Telephone: 970-331-1200
____________________________________________________________________________
_________________________________________
To: Planning and Environmental Commission
From: Vail International Condominium Owners Association
Date: December 1, 2008
Subject: Evergreen Redevelopment Proposal
On behalf of the 56 units and 53 owners at Vail International, we would like
to share our concerns about the pending redevelopment of the Evergreen hotel
and condominium complex to be known as Fairmont Vail.
Sue Froeschle, a member of our Board, has attended meetings held by the
Planning and Environmental Commission concerning the development of Fairmont
Vail. She recently met with Adam Williams, a representative of ARC
Integrated Program Management, Inc. He showed her two preliminary proposals
of the river walk the town is requesting from the developer.
We fully understand these are preliminary proposals and no decisions have
been made by the commission. We understand, however, that at the December
8, 2008, commission meeting, that the commissioners could have a final vote
to approve this redevelopment. We also understand that the commission may
ask for modifications as a condition of approval or they may table a final
decision or deny this request.
We are asking that you consider our position regarding the river walk
location in making any decisions.
(12/01/2008) Rachel Friede - FW: IMPORTANT - Evergreen redevelopmentPage 2
First, we oppose a river walk on either side of Middle Creek. We understand
that there is a need for people who are trying to access the Vail Valley
Medical Center. But, people wanting access to the mountain, restaurants, or
shopping are not going to see this as a convenient access point.
Individuals staying at Vail International or the future Fairmont Vail will
not use the river walk. They will, however, continue to use the pathway to
the north of these respective buildings and down past the east side of
Dobson arena. A better access route would be on the east side of Fairmont
Vail. The hospital already has parking at that end through a property
easement from the Evergreen. It would provide a shorter access route and
would have less pedestrian traffic impact to adjoining properties than along
Middle Creek,
Second, by proposing the river walk be on the west side of Middle Creek, we
believe the developer is shirking it's responsibility to the town and using
Vail International to leverage their position of not wanting to do this in
the first place.
Third, we are concerned about the vegetation along Middle Creek. There are
trees that are 40 to 50 feet high that are important to bank stability and
provide effective visual screening. They also protect the trout habitat.
When the town removed and pruned trees at the west end of the hospital
parking lot, there was a noticeable reduction in trout in Middle Creek. It
is only recently, that trout have returned due to new growth. We do not
want to see these trees removed.
Fourth, we are concerned about the gradient of the pathway. The proposal
with stairs is counter to the efforts Vail has made to make the town
accessible. The second proposal to ramp the land with retaining walls is
also counter to this position. The proposal includes a 10 percent grade
which is hardly accessible or ADA compliant.
Fifth, while the town does a very good job of maintaining the existing bike
path behind Vail International and along the east end of Dobson arena, when
there is snow melt and subsequent freezing the pathways are extremely icy.
Neither proposal will provide for safe walking conditions unless they are
heated. The times when many hospital employees might use this pathway going
to and coming from work are times when the pathway may be iciest. If the
town believes this will serve needed access than more people will have to
navigate an icy pathway.
If a final decision is made that includes the river walk on the west-side of
Middle Creek, we plan to exercise our right to appeal this decision.
On another note, we are also concerned about construction workers walking
across our property. This is a particular concern should they park at the
Lionshead parking structure. We have an upper deck parking lot that is
conveniently located adjacent to the west end of the parking structure. We
do not want workers using our property as an access point. We would like you
to address this with the developer. This should be part of their response
to commissioner Susie Tjossem's request to have a worker parking plan
provided to the commission.
PS. As an added note, the developer was asked to provide a drawing showing
access to Vail International from the Frontage Road. I have not seen that
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proposal, but plan to do so Dec. 1.
If you need further clarification, please feel free to contact me directly
(see contact information below).
Sue Froeschle
(pronounced "freshly")
sfroesch1@juno.com
970-476-4053
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Rachel Friede - Proposed Pathway between VI and Evergreen
Dear Rachael,
I am against the proposal to to build a pathway from Frontage Road to Meadow
Drive on the west side of Middle creek because of the following reasons:
The environmental impact on Middle Creek will be tremendous. Vegetation,
bushes, trees, soil, rocks, elevations, drainage, etc., will be disturbed. The
chances for garbage entering Middle Creek from the proposed walkway will
increase and destroy a beautiful trout stream.
The people with disabilities will not benefit from this walkway because of the
steepness of the walkway. Ice, snow and water will make this proposed pathway a
very slippery walk opening the town of Vail to the potential of many lawsuits.
I proposed that the Town of Vail do a study to evaluate both financially and
environmentally the impact to build a pathway on the East side of Middle Creek
and the East side of the new Fairmont Vail development. The Town of Vail should
not make a decision of this importance without understanding the major impact
this pathway will have on Middle Creek.
Regards,
Raymond W. Siwiec
Vail International Owner
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Date: 11/30/2008 6:59 AM
Subject: Proposed Pathway between VI and Evergreen
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Rachel Friede - Fwd: Middle Creek Pathway
From: CPAMBA711
To: rfriede@vail.gov
Sent: 11/30/2008 1:04:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
Subj: Middle Creek Pathway
Rachel: As an owner of a condo unit at Vail International, I strongly
object to the irrational attempt by the developer of the Fairmont - and by
the town of Vail - to create an unneeded and unwanted walkway from the South
Frontage Road along Middle Creek connecting to Meadow Drive. The walkway
itself makes no sense whatsoever in this location.
It's particularly distressing to note that the developer of that project
also simply wishes to move a proposed walkway from their side of the
stream to the side closer to Vail International. What a ridiculously
self serving request. That developer's attempt to relieve themselves of the
burden of having to create and pay for this (still) useless walkway makes no
sense at all.
Further. Middle Creek is a historic spawning habitat for trout that
eventually enter Gore Creek which is currently designated as a Gold
Medal Trout Stream. Destroying or modifying the riparian habitat along
Middle Creek has a hugely detrimental effect on aquatic life in that stream.
Problems caused by the Town of Vail when they
arbitrarily removed bank side shrubbery and delimbed
trees along the stream close to the Dobson Arena. Suzanne Silverthorne can
attest to this fact.
Should the town make any attempt or plan to remove or alter the
streamside vegetation on this creek, we would immediately file a
complaint with the Colorado Department of Wildlife.
In addition, should this walkway be approved the owners of Vail International
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Date: 11/30/2008 11:13 AM
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will immediately take all legal remedies available to block this unnecessary project.
Please make every attempt to cancel this attempted walkway development. There are
far better
places to locate such an access point for employees - the best being to the
east side of the proposed Fairmont Vail project.
Sincerely,
Jeff and Jane Lasky
Apt 312
Vail International
300 East Lionshead Circle
Vail Co 81657
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Rachel Friede - Middle Creek
Dear Rachel;
As an owner for over 20 years at Vail International I am very distressed to hear
of CONSIDERATION of a pathway on the west side of Middle Creek (eastside of VI) in
connection with the redevelopment of the Evergreen Lodge. Why put the pathway (from
Frontage Road to the area of the
Vail Library) on the west side of the creek? And how manny walkers (?) on Frontage Road
will use it?
Am I missing something----it is so evident that (if it is necessary at all in connection with
the construction)
it belongs on the east side of the creek where there would be access to the hospital.
As a second option should it not be located on the east side of the new Evergreen, across
the Road from the TOV offices and between the bank and the new Evergreen?
Please understand the rational of all of us owners (56) at VI who will be opposing the
location of this
pathway for the convenience of TofV and or the Evergreen construction.
Thank you for distributing this message to all TofV officials who will be involved in the
discussion of
the final resting place of the Evergreen Pathway. Since it will always be known as the
"Evergreen Pathway"
it should obviously be located on the Evergreen Lodge property.
Sincerly, Joe Murphy-- Unit Owner 206
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Date: 11/30/2008 2:32 PM
Subject: Middle Creek
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Rachel Friede - Evergreen Redevelopment Proposal/Pathway Frontage Road to
Hospital
Planning and Environmental Commission
c/o Rachael Friede
If a pathway is needed from the Frontage Road to the Hospital to assist the hospital employees and patients, it should be
constructed on the East side of the present Evergreen which location leads directly to the hospital from the Frontage Road. This
location would provide immediate pedestrian access to the hospital, rather than walking from the frontage road to the ice skating
rink, then across the hospital parking lot to the hospital. The proposed new pathway should be maintained ice free during the winter
and should comply with all legal disability requirements. The existing pathway along Middle Creek becomes extremely icy during
snow melts.
Thank you.
Martin H. Shore
Owner Unit 411, Vail International
5347 South Valentia Way, Suite 100
Greenwood Village, Colorado 80111
303.991.3541 Direct Office
303.571.1271 Fax
303.887.6467 Cell
mshore@shoreattys.com
From: "Martin Shore"
To:
Date: 12/01/2008 12:16 PM
Subject: Evergreen Redevelopment Proposal/Pathway Frontage Road to Hospital
CC: "'Sue Froeschle'"
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(12/01/2008) Rachel Friede - Fairmont VaFil Development IssuePage 1
From: "Sherri Widener" <sherri@mlharrisco.com>
To:<rfriede@vailgov.com>
Date: 12/01/2008 12:23 PM
Subject: Fairmont VaFil Development Issue
CC:<sfroesch1@juno.com>
In regards to the proposed Evergreen redevelopment-
I have been the owner of unit 204 Vail International since October 1973, I
strongly
object to the irrational attempt by the developer of the Fairmont - and by
the town of Vail - to create an unneeded and unwanted walkway from the South
Frontage Road along Middle Creek connecting to Meadow Drive. The walkway
itself makes no sense whatsoever in this location.
It's particularly annoying to note that the developer of that project
also simply wishes to move a proposed walkway from their side of the
stream to the side closer to Vail International. What a ridiculously
self serving request. That developer's attempt to relieve themselves of the
burden of having to create and pay for this (still) useless walkway makes no
sense at all.
Further. Middle Creek is a historic spawning habitat for trout that
eventually enter Gore Creek which is currently designated as a Gold
Medal Trout Stream. Destroying or modifying the riparian habitat along
Middle Creek has a hugely detrimental effect on aquatic life in that stream.
I have previously documented problems caused by the Town of Vail when they
arbitrarily removed bank side shrubbery and pruned trees along the stream
close to the Dobson Arena. Suzanne Silverthorne can attest to this fact.
Should the town make any attempt or plan to remove or alter the
streamside vegetation on this creek, I would immediately file a
complaint with the Colorado Department of Wildlife.
Please cancel this attempted walkway development. There are far better
places to locate such an access point for employees - the best being to the
east side of the proposed Fairmont Vail project.
Sincerely,
C Jack Harris
Unit 204
Vail International Condominiums
Rachel Friede - Fairmont Vail Development
Dear Ms. Friede,
My family owns Unit 112 at Vail International. Our property faces east and is in the back
of the building, opening to the common grass area at grade level on the first floor. We are
very concerned about the proposed development plans of Fairmont Vail - particularly the
proposed path between the two properties. I would like to echo all of the concerns that
Ms. Froesche has expressed.
In addition to her concerns, I would add our thoughts about a safety issue. My husband
and I spent last September in our unit and were very aware of people walking across the
lawn in the early morning hours. We thought that perhaps they were workers at the
hospital arriving for a 2:00 or 3:00 AM shift. Also, on the evenings when Vail was
celebrating Octoberfest, we experienced noise and foot traffic across the lawn. A formal
path in this area would result in further disturbance and safety problems. The pedestrians
were within 15 feet of our doors and windows with no landscaped buffer.
I would certainly hope that the Town of Vail would insist upon having any path that is
deemed necessary be placed east of Middle Creek.
Thank you for your consideration,
Sincerely,
Frances G. Baker
32 East Third Street
Frederick, Maryland 2170l
Vail International, Unit 112
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Date: 12/01/2008 2:52 PM
Subject: Fairmont Vail Development
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BRIAN E. O’REILLY, P.C.
P.O. BOX 5780
41184 U.S. HIGHWAYS 6 & 24
AVON, COLORADO 81620
(970) 949-1636 - Office
(970) 949-9045 – Fax
brianeoreilly@msn.com
Town of Vail
Planning and Environmental Commission
P. O. Box 100
Vail, Colorado 81658
December 1, 2008
Re: Vail International Condominium
Owners Association and Fairmont Vail
Dear Members of the Commission:
I have been asked to write this letter on behalf of the 53 condominium unit owners at Vail
International, to enumerate the Association's concerns regarding the redevelopment of the
Evergreen Lodge into the Fairmont Vail hotel and condominium complex.
As you may be aware, Sue Froeschle, a member of the Association's Board of Directors,
attended meetings held by the Commission, and met with Adam Williams, a representative of
ARC, who showed her two preliminary proposals for the river walk that the Town has
requested the developer provide. Based on those meetings, It is my clients' understanding
that no final decisions have been made by the Commission and that you may condition any
approval upon the inclusion of modifications to the existing proposal. Accordingly, the
members of the Vail International Condominium Owner's Association wish to ask that the
Commission consider its comments regarding the proposed location of the river walk, as well
as their concerns about the apparent lack of a plan for construction parking and for access to
the construction site which minimizes their impacts on my clients.
First, my clients wish for me to inform you that their Association opposes a river walk on
either side of Middle Creek; my clients understand that there is a need for people to access the
Medical Center, but do not believe that the general public is going to see this as a convenient
access point, and also believe that individuals staying at Vail International or the future
Fairmont Vail will not use the river walk. They do believe, however, that the public will
continue use the pathway to the North of these buildings which runs down to the East end of
the Dobson Ice Arena.
Town of Vail
Planning and Environmental Commission
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December 1, 2008
Re: Vail International and Fairmont Vail
Accordingly, my clients believe that a better access route would be on the East side of
Fairmont Vail. The Medical Center already has parking at that end of its property and my
clients believe that there is already a pedestrian easement in place. My clients also believe that
that route should be chosen because it would provide a shorter access route and because it
would cause less pedestrian traffic impact on the owners of condominiums at Vail
International than would the Middle Creek proposal.
Second, my clients are concerned with preserving the vegetation on the West side of Middle
Creek; there are very old trees with a height of up to 40 or 50 feet which should be preserved
because they are important to the stability of the river bank, and because they provide visual
screening between the adjoining properties. My clients also believe that these trees provide
significant shading and improve the water temperature characteristics of Middle Creek for
the local trout population. Therefore, my clients do not wish to see the existing trees and
other vegetation sacrificed to accommodate an access that will not work well for its intended
users.
Third, my clients are concerned about the grade of the proposed path and believe that it is not
very friendly, and that it may not be ADA compliant, because it includes a ten percent grade.
Fourth, while the Town does do a good job of maintaining the existing bike path behind Vail
International, this pathway can become very icy from time to time. Therefore, my clients
believe that the proposed pathway will sometimes be unsafe in the winter and that it should be
heated, if it is to be constructed.
Finally, my clients are concerned about the number of construction workers who will walk
across their property, and anticipate that the approval of the developer's proposal will only
make an existing problem worse, unless the river walk is moved to the East end of the
Evergreen Lodge property. My clients do not wish to have to assume the additional
inconvenience and liability attendant to having a large number of construction workers using
their upper deck parking for access from the Lionshead Parking Structure to the Fairmont
Vail project, and wish to ask the Commission to require the inclusion of a worker parking
plan which will minimize this impact as a condition for the approval of this project.
My clients do not oppose the redevelopment of the Evergreen Lodge, but naturally hope that
their comments and concerns as long-time Vail residents will influence the Commissioners'
decision.
Thank you for your consideration of these concerns.
Very truly yours,
Brian E. O'Reilly
xc: VICOA
Rachel Friede - PROPOSED FAIRMONT VAIL PATHWAY
Dear Ms. Friede,
We are owners of Unit 202 in Vail Int'l. Recent notices have indicated that the
developer of Fairmont Vail has been directed by the Town of Vail to provide a
pathway from the frontage road to Meadow Dr. as part of their redevelopment on
our side of Middle Creek.
Surely, you have received a number of replies from other concerned VI owners
by now but we will add our two cents.
Why? What possible good would it be in the first place? Secondly, some
consideration should be given to VI, a fellow member of the Vail community.
Thirdly, common sense and a thorough examination of an idea must prevail
before making it an absolute requirement.
We strongly feel the Town Board will fully review this idea and react
appropriately.
Thank you for your consideration,
Mr. & Mrs. A. Pinard
Unit 202 Owners
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Date: 12/02/2008 11:33 AM
Subject: PROPOSED FAIRMONT VAIL PATHWAY
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Rachel Friede - Middle Creek access
From: gerald salinsky
To:
Date: 12/02/2008 11:47 AM
Subject: Middle Creek access
CC:
Dear Ms Friede,
As a 22 year property owner at Vail International, former president of the owners'
association and present board member, I urge the Planning and Environmental commission
to reconsider its position relative to the Middle Creek access proposal.
Vail International has been a valued member of the Vail community for approximately 35
years, and many of its owners are original.
The present proposal would intrude on Vail International physically, esthetically, and
functionally. Furthermore, it would impact one of the natural features of the Vail Village-
Lionshead scenery(Middle Creek) for something that in the opinion of many would
marginally used, and in questionable need.
It is our position that if such an access is deemed really necessary, then locating it on the
east side of the Evergreen redevopment would eliminate the impact on esteemed
neighbor ,provide a location that is more realistic to the proposed usage, an d destroy a
natural setting.
Very truly yours,
Gerald B. Salinsky
,
Dear Ms. Friede
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Rachel Friede - Evergreen Redevelopment
Hello Rachel,
My name is Michael Beddor and my wife and I own a condo at Vail International.
Our unit is on the east side of the complex thus we are near the Evergreen Complex.
We were delighted to learn of the redevelopment into the Fairmont Vail hotel.
However we would like to voice our concern over the proposed river walk that has been requested of the developer. We
do not think it is a good idea to have such a walkway and that there must be a better solution.
We, like many others believe there is better access on EAST SIDE OF THE FAIRMONT.
There are numerous reasons to reconsider the location of the walkway – I understand others have noted the reasons so
I will not take your time repeating them.
I will say our unit would be on that is most affected by the decision due to our location and we felt you should be aware
of our concerns.
Sincerely,
Michael Beddor
Unit 310 VI
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Rachel Friede - Riverwalk proposal by Middle Creek and Vail International
From: Heidi Hansen
To:
Date: 12/03/2008 10:54 AM
Subject: Riverwalk proposal by Middle Creek and Vail International
CC:
To: Planning and Environmental Commission, Rachael Friede, Planner II
From: Heidi Hansen, Co-Owner Unit #206, Vail International, 300 Lionshead Circle, Vail
40 Edgehill Avenue, Chatham, NJ 07928 973-635-5092
Date: 3 Dec 08
Re: River walk proposals next to Middle Creek and Vail International
Dear Commissioners and Ms. Friede:
I understand that there are two proposed river walks, both on the West side of Middle Creek by Vail International; one is ramped
and one has stairs. I respectfully oppose these pathways as planned and suggest a pathway alternative to the East of the
Evergreen, from the Medical Center parking.
My concerns about the two proposed river walks on the West side of Middle Creek by Vail International include:
First, such proposals are not a convenient route for Medical Staff to reach the South Frontage Road. As the Medical Center is a
major employer and its Staff could be a high user of a pathway, their needs should be a high concern. Despite the plowing that the
Town of Vail provides, the path between Vail International and Dobson Arena does get icy. The proposed river walks would
present a hazard for the Medical Staff getting to work. The planned route would be much longer than the shorter alternative
suggested above. Stairs in the winter would add to the hazard.
Second, such proposals would not be a convenient route for shoppers or restaurant goers. Such sage would be limited. Vail
International and Fairmont Vail residents would not use the proposed pathway. Egress from concerts at Dobson Arena to the South
Frontage Road would be more advantageously routed to the West, to the proposed parking ramp redevelopment with parking,
restaurants, shops and hotel rooms. Stopped cars on the South Frontage Road to access the pathways would be a hazard.
Current bus stops should be utilized rather than adding additional bus stops.
Third, parents would not want to drop off (or pick up) a child destined for (from) Dobson Arena at a point on the South Frontage
Road, where the parent could not see their child safely enter (leave) Dobson Arena. Often the gear bags of children are too heavy
to tote such a distance, up hill, and with icy conditions.
Fourth, the gradient or stairs of the proposed river walks do not provide the usual convenience of access in which the Town of Vail
rightly takes such pride. The proposed pathways do not appear to be ADA compliant. Such proposals do not consider wheelchair
access noting the stairs or the steepness of grade proposed.
Fifth, the proposed river walks would require removal of vegetation including 40-50 foot trees and bushes. These provide bank
stability and an environment important to the protection of the trout habitat. In addition, the vegetation provides visual screening
between Vail International and the Evergreen/Fairmont Vail. Sadly, Lionshead lacks trees with all the new construction of Arrabelle,
thus presenting a hard face. Trees soften the look of buildings. Each and every tree in Vail becomes more dear with the beetle
infestations in the pines on the mountain.
Sixth, I am concerned about the number of construction workers that will walk across the Vail International deck from the Lionshead
Parking Structure to the Fairmont Vail project. I respectfully request the Commissioners to require the inclusion of a worker parking
plan that will minimize this impact as a condition for the approval of the Fairmont Vail project.
Therefore, I respectfully request the Commissioners to redirect the proposed river walkways to the East of the Evergreen and to
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include a worker parking plan for the Fairmont Vail project.
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Rachel Friede - Vail International-Fairmont Hotel-Proposed
River Walk
Dear Ms. Friede:
Please provide the Planning Commission with a copy of this
"E-Mail Letter of Objection" in reference to the proposed
River Walk in conjunction with the Fairmont Hotel Development.
To: The Town of Vail
Planning and Environmental Commission
From: Jeffrey & Nancy Weston
Owners of Unit 108 at Vail International Condominiums
Re: Proposed River Walk- Fairmont Vail Hotel
My wife and I would like to register our strong objections to the
recently proposed river walk in conjunction with the Fairmont
Hotel Development. We have seen the letter written by our
association attorney and several other responses by other
unit owners and fully agree with the objections raised.
In lieu of restating those issues again in great detail, we would like
to simply state that: (1) the proposed River Walk makes no sense
for either side of the creek based on concerns regarding the
environment, gradients, ADA compliance, realistic contemplated
use, better alternative access paths and general common sense;
and, (2) if there was going to be a River Walk, it should only be
considered for the East end of the Evergreen Lodge property and
not on the Vail International Side. The subject river (stream) is
a natural divide between Evergreen and Vail International. If
the Commission insists on a River Walk in conjunction with the
Fairmont Hotel project on the Evergreen site, it is only logical
and fair that it be located on that side of the stream and not on
the Vail International side. We are sure that if the situation
were reversed, the Evergreen property owners would be incensed
at any proposal to put a River Walk on their side of the stream
in conjunction with a Vail International Development.
If the Commission elects to still proceed with a River Walk on the
From: "Jeffrey Weston"
To:
Date: 12/03/2008 11:46 AM
Subject: Vail International-Fairmont Hotel-Proposed River Walk
CC: "Sue Froeschle" , "Nancy Weston"
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Vail International side of the stream, then I am totally in favor
of an appeal by our Vail International attorneys to continue to
contest this project to the fullest extent permitted by law.
Hopefully, that will not be necessary.
Thank you for your consideration.
Jeffrey & Nancy Weston
Owners, Unit 108
Vail International Condominiums
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Rachel Friede - Evergreen/Fairmont pathway
Hello Rachael Friede:
We are original owners of a condo at Vail International (33 years). We strongly object to
having a pathway constructed on the west side of Middle Creek leading from Frontage Road
to Meadow Drive.
It is obvious that the persons who will vote on this proposal have not walked the area. It
would then become obvious to them how ridiculous and outrageous their positive vote would
be. This walkway would be a complete waste of money because no one would use it.
Besides it is steep and unsafe for wheelchairs and the disabled.
It does make sense to spend the funds wisely on a pathway from Frontage Road to the
hospital on the East side of the Evergreen/Fairmont Vail project. Then hospital employees
and others would have a shorter, less steep and safer access to Frontage Road from their
area of employment.
F & G Barnes, LLC
Gay D. Barnes, Manager
Vail International Unit 201
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