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HomeMy WebLinkAboutUntitled (133) IPM.Note RE: Solaris Exit Passageway RE: Matt Royer SMTP MRoyer@safebuilt.com Matt Royer SMTP MRoyer@safebuilt.com Martin Haeberle; Mike McGee Solaris Exit Passageway Will do! Thanks Matthew Royer Director of Regional Operations SAFEbuilt, Inc. Toll Free: 877-428-6412 Office: 970-328-1790 Cell: 970-904-0460 matt.royer@safebuilt.com www.safebuilt.com -----Original Message----- From: Martin Haeberle [mailto:MHaeberle@vailgov.com] Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:08 AM To: Matt Royer; Mike McGee Subject: RE: Solaris Exit Passageway Matt, If you would go ahead and contact them in order to keep the flow of review in its proper place. Just cc Mike and I so that they know we are ok with it. I try to involve your team in every aspect of this so it does stay in the plan reviewers hands. Martin A. Haeberle, C.B.O. Chief Building Official Town of Vail 75 South Frontage Road Vail, Colorado 81657 970.479.2142 (o) 970.479.2452 (f) 970.376.3672 (c) >>> Matt Royer <MRoyer@safebuilt.com> 04/29/2009 5:00 PM >>> Thanks Martin. I agree completely. I just want to make sure the 3 of us stay on the same page. I'm not familiar with the arrangement you had with John Plano or with the Solaris group, so do you want me to get in touch with them or is this something you normally would have done? I ask this only because the original meeting was set with you and Mike to discuss the passageway comments. Normally I would expect us to make this call as the plan reviewers. Thoughts? I can get in touch with them first thing in the morning if you would like. Do you have the original email from the design team where they requested the meeting? Please forward over if you do. I just want to make sure I sent a response to all the right people. Thanks Matthew Royer Director of Regional Operations SAFEbuilt, Inc. Toll Free: 877-428-6412 Office: 970-328-1790 Cell: 970-904-0460 matt.royer@safebuilt.com www.safebuilt.com -----Original Message----- From: Martin Haeberle [mailto:MHaeberle@vailgov.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 4:54 PM To: Matt Royer; Mike McGee Subject: Re: Solaris Exit Passageway Matt, We need to have the fire protection engineer of record address this as part of their exiting system due to the performance base design of this building. If they desire to use these prescriptive requirements to eliminate the fire rating that should be a submittal, as a revision to their life safety plan.Justification and or analysis needs to accompany this plan. Thanks for the research Martin >>> Matt Royer <MRoyer@safebuilt.com> 04/29/2009 2:50 PM >>> Guys, I have been looking into the passageway of contention that we met about earlier this week. I also spoke to John Plano this afternoon about why he called it a passageway and he response was "he never did". He said at one point he pushed it back to the design team and that's what they designated the space. The short story is that there is no reason for calling this space a passageway. It complies with the definition of "exit discharge". Aside from changing what we call the space, there are other possible implications. If we designate this space as exit discharge from this point on then it eliminates the requirements for opening protection within the space. The door exiting from the passageway leading from the stair would require a rating and that is all. I'm not sure how many "answers" you want to give them. We could have the design team evaluate the possibilities associated with exit discharge vs. passageway. The other option is to mention nothing about the openings protection and allow them to find the exception to opening protection on their own. I don't have the plans for the theater, but John Plano said there is a required exit from the theater that dumps into the passageway. He stated the occupant load from the theater is around 200. We'll have to verify with Chris Gunion. Thoughts on how you would like to respond to the design team? I'm open for suggestions or would be happy to discuss further if you wish. Let me know how you would like to proceed at this point. Thanks Matthew Royer Director of Regional Operations SAFEbuilt, Inc. Toll Free: 877-428-6412 Office: 970-328-1790 Cell: 970-904-0460 matt.royer@safebuilt.com<mailto:matt.royer@safebuilt.com> www.safebuilt.com<http://www.safebuiltcolorado.com> Martin A. Haeberle, C.B.O. Chief Building Official Town of Vail 75 South Frontage Road Vail, Colorado 81657 970.479.2142 (o) 970.479.2452 (f) 970.376.3672 (c) Martin Haeberle SMTP MHaeberle@vailgov.com MHaeberle@vailgov.com Martin Haeberle Mike McGee SMTP MMcGee@vailgov.com MMcGee@vailgov.com Mike McGee