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Home My WebLink AboutUntitled (487) IPM.Note RE: Solaris elevators RE: Dave Leiker SMTP dleiker@bcer.com Dave Leiker SMTP dleiker@bcer.com David Hill; Eric Morgenthaler; Steve Rondinelli; John Plano Mike McGee Solaris elevators All: A very wise man (John Plano) pointed out to me the 2006 IBC was updated to have a 24" by 84" requirement for an ambulance stretcher. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Leiker Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:24 AM To: Peter Brandes; mmcgee@vailgov.com Cc: Dave Leiker; Steve Rondinelli; David Hill; Eric Morgenthaler Subject: RE: Solaris elevators Mike: Here is the drawing which Davis Partnership (DPA) did for me on fitting both the code required 24" x 76" stretcher in from Chapter 30 IBC, and a diagram on fitting a 23" x 80" stretcher in. DPA has designed side entry elevators for Elevators 1, 4 and 5, which makes stretcher entry much easier. The 23" x 80" stretcher looks like it barely fits, but with field conditions with finish materials, I don't know if I can be 100% sure. If ECHSD had to incline the stretcher to do CPR, it would be by maybe a 10% incline which would work. I was hot on the tracks of this issue at the very beginning of the design & knew about the 24" x 76" requirement, so I kept the design team on track with it to serve all floor areas/levels. We have Stryker prams in Westminster too, so I need to measure ours to verify them, but I was unaware they were bigger. Any other building BCER works in Vail will have elevators that accommodate 25" x 84" stretchers (1" cushion on the sides & 2" cushion on the ends). I will also be recommending a similar code amendment in Westminster for our next code adoption. Part of the precast concrete has already been ordered, so changing elevator car sizes will have a nasty impact on the design at this late stage. Please let me know your formal interpretation and I will proceed with it with the design team, but it is desirable for the team to have the current design of the elevators as they are shown in the drawing as acceptable. Thanks. Dave. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Brandes [mailto:pbrandes@echsd.org] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 9:33 AM To: mmcgee@vailgov.com Cc: Dave Leiker Subject: Solaris elevators Hi Mike, I had a nice conversation with Dave Leiker of BCER engineering regarding elevator size at the Solaris project. Bottom line is that, while what they have designed isn't what I would call "spacious", after looking over some drawings with him, I think we can make it work. As far as future projects in the TOV, Dave suggested that the ordinance regarding elevator size should be amended to reflect a stretcher dimension of 25"x84" (if you recall, our new stretchers are 23"x80") to give us a little more working room, and to accomodate potential future changes in patient-handling equipment sizes. I couldn't agree more. Give me a call if you have any questions. Peter Brandes Peter Brandes NREMTP, Operations Manager Eagle County Health Service District PO Box 990 / 1055 Edwards Village Boulevard Edwards, CO 81632-0990 office: 970-926-5270, cell: 970-390-0543, fax: 970-926-5235 pbrandes@echsd.org www.echsd.org Mike McGee SMTP MMcGee@vailgov.com MMcGee@vailgov.com Mike McGee David Hill SMTP dhill@bcer.com dhill@bcer.com David Hill Eric Morgenthaler SMTP emorgenthaler@bcer.com emorgenthaler@bcer.com Eric Morgenthaler Steve Rondinelli SMTP Srondinelli@bcer.com Srondinelli@bcer.com Steve Rondinelli John Plano SMTP JPlano@safebuilt.com JPlano@safebuilt.com John Plano