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Home My WebLink AboutRE Four Seasons Vail (97) IPM.Note RE: Four Seasons Vail RE: "TJ Brink" SMTP tbrink@semperdev.com "TJ Brink" SMTP tbrink@semperdev.com Peter Speth; Doug Hipskind; Pam Brandmeyer; Stan Zemler Matt Royer; David Brooks; Charlie Davis; Mike McGee; Russ Forrest; Tom Kassmel; Warren Campbell Four Seasons Vail Charlie: I simply can not believe this email! I’m not sure it possible for the Town of Vail to make this process any more difficult! I’m sorry that you are busy and can’t afford the time to “re-review” documents. As to guarantees – are you kidding me! What guarantee can you give me! This is a G&E permit – nothing more nothing less – I simply want to dig a hole and if we have a problem later and can not continue the bond requirement will pay to fill the hole back in?? I’m I missing something. I have gotten G&E permits from numerous other Colorado jurisdictions without 1/50th of the amount of information the Town has to date. I just can’t understand -- needless to say I am completely frustrated and becoming very angry. I guess you feel the same way?! We have ALWAYS been told that we could submit for the G&E without the agreements but that the permit would not issue until we had the agreements. Why has the Town, once again, changed it collective mind? As to the TWO agreements in question: The 9 Vail Road Easement Agreement has been agreed to in principal and we are simply waiting for the legal description of the easement area as well as the depiction of the easement area to be finalized and then it will be signed and filed by the parties, The CDOT lease has been in the works for over 1 year and we began paying rent on the dirt in May 2006. I think everyone understand that CDOT has approved the soil nails and CDOT is simply working through its process with the Federal Highway Administration. We do not believe that the design will change or we would not be submitting the same for approval. I will call to discuss this further but I think I should wait a bit given my current state of mind. TJ Very truly yours, Thomas J. Brink President HB Development Co. Minneapolis Office: 80 South Eighth Street Suite 1275 Minneapolis, Minnesota 55402 Telephone: (612) 332-1500 Facsimile: (612) 332-2428 Denver Office: 8000 East Prentice Avenue Suite C-3 Greenwood Village, Colorado 80111 Telephone: (303) 825-7800 Facsimile: (303) 825-7801 -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Davis [mailto:CDavis@vailgov.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:12 PM To: Matt Royer; David Brooks; Mike McGee; Russ Forrest; Tom Kassmel; Warren Campbell Cc: Peter Speth; TJ Brink; Doug Hipskind; Pam Brandmeyer Subject: Re: Four Seasons Vail Good Afternoon David, Thank you for the update on the next submital. There is one element of concern contained in the previous email. That concern is: It appears the G & E submital will not be complete. It will be missing the easement and adjacent property owner agreements for both 9 Vail Road and CDOT Right of Way issues. The issue at hand is: Will Four Seasons design be impacted if neither of these agreements are recorded/obtained? The Town and it's agents will be reviewing plans that may be changed and will need to re-review the project over again. I know that Public Works may have suggested that this information can be submitted prior to the release of the G & E permit. I stated in the last meeting, held three weeks ago, that we need a complete submital for this phase of the project. That complete submital does include all adjacent property approvals. What guarantee will we obtain that the design will not change? None of us are afforded the time to revise and re-review documents. This has been an on-going issue since this project's inception and shall be put to rest with documentation that the approvals are in place. In discussion with all others involved in this process (Town of Vail Public Works, Fire & Planning), the G & E (Grading & Excavation) will be rejected and no review will occur until the agreements are submitted to us as a complete package to review. Feel free to call me if you would like to discuss this further. Charlie Davis Chief Building Official Town of Vail 970-479-2142 cdavis@vailgov.com >>> "David Brooks" <dbrooks@jhgi.com> 02/20/07 4:50 PM >>> This is the third week since we met to discuss the G&E permit process and the Exiting and Life Safety Report in your offices. I would like to inform you that we should be making a final submittal for the G&E application by the end of this week. I or Mark Reed with Layton Construction Co. will submit 7 sets as discussed with Matt Royer. Included in the submittal should be a final book containing the G&E permit submittal and a submittal from Hill Glazier Architects containing the responses to the CIA letter dated Oct.23, 2007 and a final Life Safety Report. Two items will be missing from this submittal. The first is the final recorded construction easement from 9 Vail Rd. Condominiums, which is in process, and the CDOT lease for the wells and soil nail installation into S. Frontage Road. It is our understanding that we can make the submittal without these two documents and the final review process started understanding that the G&E permit would not be issued until these two documents are finally submitted. If there is any major change to this schedule, I will advise all. If there are any questions, please feel free to contact me. David W. Brooks Sr. Project Manager The John Hardy Group, Inc. The Centre Building 5180 Roswell Road Atlanta, GA 30342 Phone # 404-256-8800 Ext. 105 Fax # 404-256-8810 Cell # 404-931-6584 E-mail dbrooks@jhgi.com This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. CHARLIE:ISIMPLYCANNOTBELIEVETHISEMAILI’MNOTSUREITPOSSIBLEFORTHETOWNOFVAILTOMAKETHISPROCESSANYMOREDIF <html xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PostalCode"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="State"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="Street"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="address"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceType"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PlaceName"/> <o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="PersonName"/>  <style>  </style> </head> <body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple> <div class=Section1> Charlie:<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I simply can not believe this email! I’m not sure it possible for the Town of Vail to make this process any more difficult!  I’m sorry that you are busy and can’t afford the time to “re-review” documents.   As to guarantees – are you kidding me!  What guarantee can you give me! This is a G&E permit – nothing more nothing less – I simply want to dig a hole and if we have a problem later and can not continue the bond requirement will pay to fill the hole back in??  I’m I missing something.  I have gotten G&E permits from numerous other <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Colorado</st1:place></st1:State> jurisdictions without 1/50th of the amount of information the Town has to date.  I just can’t understand -- needless to say I am completely frustrated and becoming very angry.  I guess you feel the same way?! <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> We have ALWAYS been told that we could submit for the G&E without the agreements but that the permit would not issue until we had the agreements.  Why has the Town, once again, changed it collective mind?  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> As to the TWO agreements in question:  <o:p></o:p> The <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">9 Vail Road</st1:address></st1:Street> Easement Agreement has been agreed to in principal and we are simply waiting for the legal description of the easement area as well as the depiction of the easement area to be finalized and then it will be signed and filed by the parties,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> The CDOT lease has been in the works for over 1 year and we began paying rent on the dirt in May 2006.  I think everyone understand that CDOT has approved the soil nails and CDOT is simply working through its process with the Federal Highway Administration.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> We do not believe that the design will change or we would not be submitting the same for approval.  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I will call to discuss this further but I think I should wait a bit given my current state of mind.  TJ   <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Very truly yours,<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> Thomas J. Brink<o:p></o:p> President<o:p></o:p> HB Development Co. <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Minneapolis</st1:place></st1:City> Office:<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">80 South Eighth Street</st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p> <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">Suite</st1:Street> 1275</st1:address><o:p></o:p> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Minneapolis</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Minnesota</st1:State>  <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">55402</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p> Telephone: (612) 332-1500<o:p></o:p> Facsimile:    (612) 332-2428<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Denver</st1:place></st1:City> Office:<o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> 8000 East Prentice Avenue<o:p></o:p> Suite C-3<o:p></o:p> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Greenwood Village</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Colorado</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">80111</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p> Telephone: (303) 825-7800<o:p></o:p> Facsimile:    (303) 825-7801 <o:p></o:p> -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Davis [mailto:CDavis@vailgov.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 1:12 PM To: Matt Royer; David Brooks; Mike McGee; Russ Forrest; Tom Kassmel; Warren Campbell Cc: Peter Speth; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">TJ Brink</st1:PersonName>; Doug Hipskind; Pam Brandmeyer Subject: Re: Four Seasons Vail <o:p> </o:p> Good Afternoon David,<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Thank you for the update on the next submital. There is one element of<o:p></o:p> concern contained in the previous email.<o:p></o:p> That concern is: It appears the G & E submital will not be complete. It<o:p></o:p> will be missing the easement and adjacent property owner agreements for<o:p></o:p> both <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">9 Vail Road</st1:address></st1:Street> and CDOT Right of Way issues. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> The issue at hand is: Will Four Seasons design be impacted if neither<o:p></o:p> of these agreements are recorded/obtained? The Town and it's agents will<o:p></o:p> be reviewing plans that may be changed and will need to re-review the<o:p></o:p> project over again.<o:p></o:p> I know that Public Works may have suggested that this information can<o:p></o:p> be submitted prior to the release of the G & E permit. I stated in the<o:p></o:p> last meeting, held three weeks ago, that we need a complete submital for<o:p></o:p> this phase of the project. That complete submital does include all<o:p></o:p> adjacent property approvals.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> What guarantee will we obtain that the design will not change? None of<o:p></o:p> us are afforded the time to revise and re-review documents. This has<o:p></o:p> been an on-going issue since this project's inception and shall be put<o:p></o:p> to rest with documentation that the approvals are in place.<o:p></o:p> In discussion with all others involved in this process (Town of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Vail</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p> Public Works, Fire & Planning), the G & E (Grading & Excavation) will be<o:p></o:p> rejected and no review will occur until the agreements are submitted to<o:p></o:p> us as a complete package to review.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Feel free to call me if you would like to discuss this further.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Charlie Davis<o:p></o:p> Chief Building Official<o:p></o:p> Town of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Vail</st1:place></st1:City><o:p></o:p> 970-479-2142<o:p></o:p> cdavis@vailgov.com<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> >>> "David Brooks" <dbrooks@jhgi.com> 02/20/07 4:50 PM >>><o:p></o:p> This is the third week since we met to discuss the G&E permit process<o:p></o:p> and the Exiting and Life Safety Report in your offices.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> I would like to inform you that we should be making a final submittal<o:p></o:p> for the G&E application by the end of this week.   I or Mark Reed with<o:p></o:p> Layton Construction Co. will submit 7 sets as discussed with Matt Royer.<o:p></o:p>  Included in the submittal should be a final book containing the G&E<o:p></o:p> permit submittal and a submittal from Hill Glazier Architects containing<o:p></o:p> the responses to the CIA letter dated Oct.23, 2007 and a final Life<o:p></o:p> Safety Report.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> Two items will be missing from this submittal. The first is the final<o:p></o:p> recorded construction easement from <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">9 Vail Rd.</st1:address></st1:Street> Condominiums, which is in<o:p></o:p> process, and the CDOT lease for the wells and soil nail installation<o:p></o:p> into <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">S. Frontage Road</st1:address></st1:Street>. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p>  It is our understanding that we can make the submittal without these<o:p></o:p> two documents and the final review process started understanding that<o:p></o:p> the G&E permit would not be issued until these two documents are finally<o:p></o:p> submitted.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> If there is any major change to this schedule, I will advise all.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> If there are any questions, please feel free to contact me.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> <o:p> </o:p> David W. Brooks<o:p></o:p> Sr. Project Manager<o:p></o:p> The John Hardy Group, Inc.<o:p></o:p> The <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Centre</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Building</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:p> <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">5180 Roswell Road</st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Atlanta</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">GA</st1:State>  <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">30342</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p> Phone #  404-256-8800  Ext. 105<o:p></o:p> Fax #      404-256-8810<o:p></o:p> Cell #      404-931-6584<o:p></o:p> E-mail      dbrooks@jhgi.com <o:p></o:p> This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged<o:p></o:p> information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the<o:p></o:p> sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this e-mail and destroy any<o:p></o:p> copies. Any dissemination or use of this information by a person other<o:p></o:p> than the intended recipient is unauthorized and may be illegal. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> </div> </body> </html> Matt Royer NGW matt.royer@coinspect.com matt.royer@coinspect.com Matt Royer David Brooks NGW dbrooks@jhgi.com dbrooks@jhgi.com David Brooks Peter Speth NGW Peter@jhgi.com Peter@jhgi.com Peter Speth Doug Hipskind NGW dhipskind@vaildev.com dhipskind@vaildev.com Doug Hipskind Charlie Davis NGW CDavis@vailgov.com CDavis@vailgov.com Charlie Davis Mike McGee NGW MMcGee@vailgov.com MMcGee@vailgov.com Mike McGee Pam Brandmeyer NGW PBrandmeyer@vailgov.com PBrandmeyer@vailgov.com Pam Brandmeyer Russ Forrest NGW RForrest@vailgov.com RForrest@vailgov.com Russ Forrest Stan Zemler NGW SZemler@vailgov.com SZemler@vailgov.com Stan Zemler Tom Kassmel NGW TKassmel@vailgov.com TKassmel@vailgov.com Tom Kassmel Warren Campbell NGW WCampbell@vailgov.com WCampbell@vailgov.com Warren Campbell