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Home My WebLink AboutDRB110150�1�1.��1'-'i C�wEL��i_�- ��i � r� I��i �� r��l ��TI � �I F� F�1�1 �� rtrr��r�t �f ��r�r�� r�i�� I��r��r�� .� �� Fr�r�t�� F�� i I� ��I �r�� 1�.�� I: ��.��.�1�� f��; ��,��.��.�� ; ��r�.��i I��, ��r�n Project Name: WI PHASE V REROOF Project Description: Participants: DRB Number: DR6110150 COMMON ELEMENT - VILLAGE INN PLAZA PHASE V REROOF (MOUNTAIN BLEND DAVINCI SHAKES) OWNER GEROCA S.C. 05/12/2011 100EMEADOWDR101 VAI L CO 81657 APPLICANT VAIL VILLAGE INN PHASE V HOA 05/12/2011 68 EAST MEADOW DRIVE VAI L CO 81657 Project Address: 68 E MEADOW DR VAIL PHASE 5 COMMON ELEMENT Location: Legal Description: Lot: M Block: 5D Subdivision: VILLAGE INN PLAZA Parcel Number: 2101-082-5400-2 Comments: Motion By: KJ ES60 Second By: GILLETTE Vote: 5-0-0 Conditions: BOARD/STAFF ACTION Action: APPROVED Date of Approval: 05/18/2011 Cond: 8 (PLAN): No changes to these plans may be made without the written consent of Town of Vail staff and/or the appropriate review committee(s). Cond: 0 (PLAN): DRB approval does not constitute a permit for building. Please consult with Town of Vail Building personnel prior to construction activities. Cond: 201 (PLAN): DRB approval shall not become valid for 20 days following the date of approval, pursuant to the Vail Town Code, Chapter 12-3-3: APPEALS. Cond: 202 (PLAN): Approval of this project shall lapse and become void one (1) year following the date of final approval, unless a building permit is issued and construction is commenced and is diligently pursued toward completion. 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Design review approval expires one year from the date of approval, unless a building permit is issued and construction commences. Submittal Requirements: 1. Three (3) Copies of all pertinent approved plans with illustrated, labeled changes 2. Joint Properly Owner Written Approval Letter, if applicable Fee: $20 Single Family Duplex 0(Z B � l/vo 93 Multi-Family �_Commercial Description of the Request: W'� l/�C�� i�.� +'D G�U►�G��L C-o �p r c� ��✓j✓lC i -C��:►�, ��-�►M ble�� M��h+�� Ir�d Physical Address: � � Gl�i% �{u�(o G/ �ri'✓� Parcel Number: Z�� ZSy�o Z—lo7- (Contact Eagle Co. Assessor at 970-328-8640 for parcel no.) Property Owner: U+ ��7C�h�1 f 11�-�1� �►'!l�}S� S��-t Mailing Address: Owner's Signature: Primary Contact/ Owner Representative: Mailing Address: E-Mail: For Office Use Only: ID4 Fax: Phone: Phone: �� 3s3 s3q Cash_ CC: Visa / MC Last 4 CC # Exp. Date: Auth # Check # r�2D3� Fee Paid: � a0. f�0 Received From: Tu.RUEQ /Y10Q21S Meeting Date: DRB No.: �� [� I S� , Planner. ,�� Project No: PRS J�.—� ((�'� Zoning Land Use: Location of the Proposal: Lot:� Block: s� Subdivision: uAi� Vl LC.19C-�� i 1_l� 1 O1-Jan-11 Bill Gibson From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Mr. Gibson, Richard Liebhaber <richard@liebhaber.net> Thursday, May 12, 2011 6:19 AM Bill Gibson John Glenn; jonathan staufer; Scott Cunningham Vail Village Inn - Phase V: Request for Change to Approved Plan Thank you for taking the time to speak with me yesterday. The Phase V HOA Board has decided to apply for a change to the approved plan, as we had discussed. I have instructed our roofer, Turner Morris, to come by first thing this morning (as soon as possible, anyway) to fill in whatever application paperwork is required to request a change to the approved plan for our building's roofing color and to provide the fee. I am sorry that I won't be able to attend the meeting next week, but I will be traveling at that time. However, I'd like to state that there has been considerable push back by the Phase V owners and provide you, the Staff and the DRB members their thoughts and rationale for why we feel our original color choice should be honored and approved. We only seek to change this narrow portion of the plan and are working diligently with Turner Morris to resolve the snow retention and sidewalls issues. As you may recall, the original color choice was a darker brown color named Mountain Blend. The DRB, however, approved a lighter color called Autumn Blend under the theory, as I understand it, that as part of the former Vail Village Inn complex, all buildings in the complex should appear the same and Campo di Fiori's roof is Autumn Blend. After seeing a sample of Autumn Blend, several owners expressed a strong preference in favor of the darker Mountain Blend color and against the Autumn Blend selction, and for the following reasons, Phase V requests the approved plan be granted a change. First, we selected our original color choice from the Town of Vail's own approved colors list. Indeed, why bother having an approved list if color selections from it are being rejected? Second, we did not pick the color randomly. It better matches what is on the building today: a dark brown roof. It also better matches other adjacent properties (Sonnenalp, Sebastian, Phase III and 9 Vail Road for example). Third, the owners of Phase V will have to live with the color for the next roughly 50 years. I don't know where each DRB member lives, but if it were in this building, as long as they wanted a color from the pre-approved list, I would hope that they would expect their choice be honored. Third, this is not a question of safety. It is, rather, one of aesthetics. There is no basis for the DRB to substitute its own aesthetic opinion for ours. Indeed, we feel our judgment is more carefully thought-through and considered, as we will have to live with it for a long time and will be writing a sizable check for it. DRB members may never once even look at our roof color after it's up, yet we will see it every day. Fourth, the DRB apparently demands that we conform our color to that of the Campo di Fiori building. While we are a part of the same original property, each building on the property has gone in different directions from that point. Phase III, Phase IV (d/b/a The Sebastian Hotel) and Phase V are the larger properties, and a smaller property's color choices shouldn't be dictating to the larger properties. Indeed, on the former Vail Village Inn complex (all phases), there are so many different roofs and exterior finishes now, it defies credibility to say there is or remains an overall "plan". Further, from a process standpoint, if Phase V was, in the DRB's mind, subject to Campo di Fiori's roofing color palette choice, we strongly feel it was necessary for Phase V to have been informed by proper notice and given an opportunity to provide our opinions and make comments at the time Campo's application was under consideration. As we received no notice, there was no due process. Moreover, we feel that because no notice was given and no discussion was had with our input with respect to binding Phase V's roofing color choice by another's choice, the DRB's decision to bind us to Campo's color choice is not proper or effective. Fifth, due to the fact that the Sebastian hotel was not required to conform to a similar color choice (or, perhaps, more accurately, Campo's later-approved color choice actually doesn't conform and represents the deviation from other existing Vail Village Inn complex properties...including Phases III and V...and the freshly-constructed Sebastian) would indicate that the DRB is seeking to enforce an unknown and confused "plan" against us, yet isn't enforcing it against others in the complex. Indeed, as further evidence, I submit that the building that houses Annie's (Phase III) is now painted a tan color, while other original buildings remain white. And, the Sebastian remains an oddity either way in this regard, as they've had entirely different finishes approved. To suggest then, that there is an overall plan for the Vail Village Inn complex seems false, and to hold us to one is unfair and unjust when other buildings on the property have been approved to do, apparently, as they like even though their choices deviate from the original color scheme. Sixth, while we concede that Campo di Fiori is a part of the former Village Inn Plaza property, since the individual buildings were sold and turned over to their owners, they have been self- and separately-governed, maintained and operated. So, for the DRB to create an implied aesthetic "relationship" between Campo de Fiori and Phase V now is inappropriate and based on nothing more than the DRB's desire for uniformity. There may have been one at one time, but today, no such relationship exists other than by perceived proximity and a historical name. Seventh, regarding uniformity, if the DRB wishes for us to be more "uniform" in our color choice with other properties, it is far more appropriate for our property to be similar to the immediately-adjacent properties: The Sebastian Hotel, The Sonnenalp Hotel and the Masters Gallery/Grappa/Osaki's building. All three of which have a darker shade more comparable to the color we originally selected. If, however, in the alternative, the DRB is arguing that it actually wants color contrast as opposed to uniformity, then it was still up to the DRB to inform us at the time the other properties chose their roofing color options that their choice would impact our choice. Again, the DRB was deficient in this regard. Further, if the DRB wishes for contrast, presumably it has a"plan" and isn't just making decisions on an ad hoc basis. If there is a relevant, applicable plan, we are unaware of it, and thus, assuming we have selected our color choice from the pre-approved list, there is no basis upon which to refuse it. Eighth, there is a consistently darker color choice on newer buildings in Vail Village. This includes the Solaris, Sebastian and Four Seasons properties. So, for the DRB to depart from this represents an aesthetic choice that is inconsistent with what has recently been approved. For all these reasons, we request that our original color choice be approved and the plan changed. We and our roofer, Turner Morris, are prepared to move forward as soon as approval is granted on May 18th. Thank you. Sincerely, Richard Liebhaber Di rector Village Inn Plaza Phase V Condominium Association Material: Shake Prod uct: M u Iti-Width DaVi nci en c osen : . u umn *Colors are as accurafe as fechnology allows. Please make final selection from actual shingles. **Bellaforte utilizes our proprietary VariBlend technology. See Color Designer FAQ for explanation on color process. davinciroofscapes.com - 800-328-4624 Material: Shake Prod uct: M u Iti-Width DaVi nci en c osen : . oun ain *Colors are as accurafe as fechnology allows. Please make final selection from actual shingles. **Bellaforte utilizes our proprietary VariBlend technology. See Color Designer FAQ for explanation on color process. davinciroofscapes.com - 800-328-4624 *************************************************+************+***************************** TOWN OF VAIL, COLORADOCopy Reprinted on 01-08-2013 at 15:56:36 Oi/08/2013 Statement ****************+*********************************r***************************************** Statement Number: R110000451 Amount: $20.00 05/12/201109:09 AM Payment Method: Check Init: DR Notation: CK# 2038 TURNER MORRIS INC -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Permit No: DRB110150 Type: DRB-Chg to Appr Plans Parcel No: 2101-082-5400-2 2101-082-5407-8 2101-082-5407-9 2101-082-5908-2 2101-082-5408-4 2101-082-5408-6 2101-082-5408-7 2101-082-5408-9 2101-082-5409-1 2101-082-5409-3 2101-082-5409-5 2101-082-5409-6 2101-082-5409-7 2101-082-5409-8 2101-082-5409-9 2101-082-5410-0 2101-082-5410-1 2101-082-5410-2 2101-082-5410-3 2101-082-5410-4 Site Address: 68 E MEADOW DR VAIL Location: PHASE 5 COMMON ELEMENT Total Fees: $20.00 This Payment: $20.00 Total ALL Pmts: $20.00 Balance: $0.00 ****************************************************************�*************************** ACCOUNT ITEM LIST: Account Code Description Current Pmts --------------- ------------------------------ ------------ DR 00100003112200 DESIGN REVIEW FEES 20.00 --------------------------------------------------------------------