HomeMy WebLinkAboutVAIL VILLAGE FILING 1 BLOCK 5D LOT M O VAIL PLAZA HOTEL PHASE IV AKA SEBASTION CLIPPINGS LEGALControversial hotel draws another look from council
By Tom Winter
Daily Staff Writer
l cn rrurnths ago. .lay Pctcrson. a
rcprcsentative fol thc proposed Vail
Plaza Hotel, said in an intervicw thirt
he did not want t0 see thc hotel lose
IIlaSS.
Now. hr.rrvever plans havc the
hotcl weighing in with lgss than 150
ftx)rns 25 fbrvcr than belbre and
about l8 lcct shorter in hcight. But
thosc cuthacks and trinr-downs still
don't meet thc zoning requircmcnts
lbl thc special puhlic accornmoda-
tion-zc>ned lln<l on which the hotel
rvill rcsl.
Thc hotcl is pnrposccl to rcplacc
thc Vail Villtrgc Inn on Mcadow
Drivc. It has drawn contrnversy lrom
the br.'ginning olcr its sizc.
Kcvin Fole1,, onc of thrce cguncil
r.nernhers who helrd Pcterson's last
proposal, said he still has concerns
luboLrl. the project. Onc ol' thosc con-
cerns is the tight quarters tbr com-
mercial ancl visiting vehiclcs that
would come in close proximity with
each other.
Thc current proJnsal shOws that
thc truck loading zonc would be right
next to the entrance to the hotel's
parking garage - a parking garage
that needs 75 more parking spaces tbr
it to adhcre lo zcrning standards.
Thc issue ofloading anil unloading
trucks has bcen a battleground
between the dcvclopers and some of
the area homeowners' associalions.
Jim Lamont. execulive rlircctol ol
the East Village Hourcowncrs Asso-
cialion, hrc., $rote a letterto the coun-cil outlining thc associatirxr's
displeasure uith the idca oi a highly
trafficked loading zone ol'l' Stuth
Frontagc Road.
"The growth in thc visitor popul;r
tion due to increascs in. ircccntly
appror, ed or untlcr-considcratiolr ) (lcn-
sitics ftrr Vail Villagc and l .ionshcad
r,r'ill result in a gleltel clcnlrnd upon
lhc Ioading anil dclircly slstcm li)r
Vail Villagc," Lamont rvrrrtc. " l-lrt:
negativc aspccts ol thc cunent lourl-
ing arrd delively systcn.r are Nd\,crsc k)
thc economic anrl cnr irrinmentll
wcll-bcing of Vail Villagc and its sur-
munding rcsidcntial ncighborlroocls."
Evcn with sume of the discrcpan-
cics between the zo ing rc(lLlirements
and the proposal. Foley said he thinks
the hotel is getting close to lrcing an
acccptable neighbor.
Council menrber (ircg MolTet said
he believes the projcct is a good one.
In fact. he's always believed it. Mot'-
t'et was the chair of the Vail Planrring
Commission when the last council
overlurrred thc prujcct. Thc plarrrring
cornrnission had recommended tc lhe
council that thel' approvc it.
Onc of Moll-ct '. n rujor contr"'nt r, rns
was that it is hett!'r 1o have h,xcl
rooms in a project than il is to h:ve
time-share urrits. Thc fimt proposal
nright har,e hatl 25 more rooms" but
all ol' (hcrn.were hotel rrxrms. l his
prolect splits the rooms: two-thrrds
lre hotel roorrrs and the other thrr,l is
cornJnscd ol time-shares."l likc holel tooms rnLrch bc,[er
tlran I like tinrc-shalc." N'lo1lci s.rid.
Time-share is a lrnancing vehiclc tbr
kxlgins ownel's- l'lof tet said. TIrcy
JrLrsh tirrc shlres inlo thcir buildi.rgs
\\hcn thc\ itlc rr,'l rrlluucd cltrrt gh
spilce to nlake hotcl<rnly ru)ns trnrn-
ciaily v iablc. he saicl.
Mollbt said he thinks biugel hoL.:ls
.rrrt bc grrol i{)r'thc lr)\\'r1 it thc; ;rrr in
lrn lppfopl.ilrc l()airtiofi. "Anrl thi . is
the appropliatc location; it is out of he
villagc," he said.
The hotcl proposal still has 10 go
back to the planning commission lbr
linal appror':rl ncxt \.\eek beforc i is
hrought back to the council. lhe
wholc project is expected 1o bc com-
pleted legislatively in January.
The Vail Plaza Hotel plans went beiore the Vail Town Council
Tuesday night. Proiect planners have scaled down the specs
of the hotel slnce earlier this year.
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Tovwt officials to reconsiderfive-star luntry hotel redevelopment
BY STDPHEN Lr,oyn Wooo
Dsib llail Stsfi
The Vail Plaza Hotel, a key firre-star
luxury hotel redevelopment projeit that
would replace the landmark Vail Village
Ian, goes back on the front bumer today
for the town council.
Council memben and town staff will
visit the site as part a regularly scheduled
afternoon work session. A one-hour dis-
cussion and p'resentation by Vail's senior
special projects planner,
George Luther, is scheduled
for the wening meeting.
"The idea is to turn what's
become an eyesor€ into a
neq landmark facility that
everyone immediately sees
when they enter the village,''
Connie Dorsey, general man-
ager of the Vail Vrllage InrL
said Monday. 'We have a pre-
liminary meeting with the new council
tomorrw, just for the new members to
get falniliar with the project so we cao
move forward as soon as possible."
The $ll0 million project, on the
frontage road just east of Vailb main
rormdabout, uon a uoanimous recom-
mendation by ttrc t$m's Planning and
Environmental Cormnission in January -
only o be severcly cut dw'n in size over
the next few months to please the torn
soucil, vfrich considercd it far too large.
"Coircern was raisod: 'How big is too
big?"' Vail Mayor Ludwig Kurz said
Monday. '"Thar project, for where it's
located on the edge of the commercial
core, was a bit werwhelming,"
In August when the previow town
cormcil last reviewed the project plans
called for a 187-room facility, down
from an original 326, m a 'fractional
fee club" ownership soheme; 19,562
square fe€t ofconference space, includ-
ing a 550-seat banquet facility and an
800-seat amphitheater; a 23,542-
square-foot spa and health olub; a
'tuorld-class" lobby and lounge; tbree
lwels of underground parking; and a
gounnet restaurant.
Aocording to iaformation supplied
by Luther Monday, the 187-room pro-
posal has lsen reduced even further, to
147 rooms - 99 hotel rooms and 47
fractional-fee-club condominiums.
Luther's presentation tonight will
address key concerns the council has
had in the past, including setbacks from
Vail Road; the building's height; "green
space" and pedestrian circulation; a
guest entance on Vail Road; parking
requirements; and zoning.
Employee housing, Dolsey said, nny
be the final sticking point. The proposal
now calls for deed-restricted housing for
32 of the 105 new employees generated
by the new hotel. Just where the housing
would be still has to be detemine4
although the proposal states that "the
applicant anticipates that all or a portion
... will be providod in an out-of-town or
down-valley location."
The council should be pleased to leam
about one zubstantial change in the pro-
posal: an undergroud loading dock for
delivery tucks, with an entance of the
frontage road. Dorsey said the facility
would be available to otler businesses in
the Special Dwelopment Dstrict in that
corner oftown.
glad to hear they're including not only
loading and delivery for their ovm pur-
pbses but for the rest of the (district).
That's the way to go," Kurz said.
."Anything we can do to change the
loading situation and more forward.
We've always had the discussion about
how can we keep trucks out of the vil-
lage, aud that's just about impossible to
do without something like this."
Discussion at the evening meeting
could be lively, as new council
member Greg Motret - who as
"The idea is to turn what's become an ffiffl3|"fflffift
eyesore into a ney landmark facility ...' recommend the proposal ior a
much larger Vail Plaza Hotel -
- Connlo DoEey, may again voice concerns tiat
generat manager of vail vilage Inn I*lTrT"m:"* *o
Having made frequent calls
during the recent campaign
for large conference facilities, big
hotels and moro "live beds" in Vail.
Moffet said Monday that a larger Vail
Plaza Hotel - such as the original, 326
room facility - would be a prime oppor-
tunity for Vail to move in that direction.
The newest proposal was recom-
mended by the townb Design and
Review Board on Wednesday. It must
now go through another review by tlrePlanning and Environmental
Commission December 13. The Town
Cormcil is scheduled to discuss the pro-
ject again the next day.
If the project \Mins final approval
early next year, constuction would
begin next spring, Dorsey sai{ "after
the ski season," with a scheduled com-
oletion date of late 2001.
'We will have the most dynarnic and The existing, TGroom Vail Village
largest loading *6 unllosding facility Inn would be demolished in tle
for any hotel in the valley,' Dorsey said. process. Dorsey said that about 20 per-
At present, businesses in that district manent, full-time ernployees will .
do their loading and unloading in thb remain. The balance of the 74-member
pmking lot at Craig's Market. A loading staffwill be laid off
dock at the Vail Pla"p would go a long The tovin council will also interview
way in relieving congestion in the lot six applicants for the two remaining
and on Vail Road. seats on the new Vail Local Marteting
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Department - and Donovan, for
one, wants some answers.'
Wednesday, Se said if sufficient
view documentation is not made
available to the Town Council at its
next meeting Tiresday, she may rec-
osunend delaying final review of
the Vail Plaza Hotel project.
"You can't approve it if you
don't have the criteria to make the
decision in the first place," said
Donwan, who remembers long
discussions and mountains of
paperwork on the matter when she
was on the PEC. "It's their respon-
sibility to have the documents.
That's like saying, 'Hey, we lost the
zoning boolg so let's just wing it."'
As to what to do if staff cannot
find the documents?
'"That's tough; they can recon-
struct them," Donovan said.
Then there's Jim Lmont, execu-
tive tlirector of the East Village
Homeowners Associafion. who's
also advised staff to locate or
reconstruct documents on the view
corridor to avoid legal problems.
At least one potential lawsuit
over the view corridor looms if the
Vail Plaza Hotel is approved.
'.l hat I'm trying to point out to
thern are impediments that may
ultimately slow the project dovm if
they don't go through the proper
procedures," Lamont said. *This is
a custodian ofpublio records issue.
'"The primary concern here is
recollection " he added. "Right
now, nobody really knows what's
on the books."
Ceorge Ruther, the town's senior
special projects planner. is working
with the developer to win approval
ofthe Vail Plaza Hotel. He stressed
the view from the roundabout over
the Cateway Plaza to Vail
Mountain is not one of the original
corridors.
With all the subsequent
changes around it, the view has
already been encroached upon,
Ruther said. and as far as the
view corridor being addressed in
the original master plan, "Master
plans are meant to guide plan-
ners, not to offor strict regula-
tions."
Ruther also said adequate recon-
struction of the descriptions of tle
view in question are possible.
Russell Forrest, director ofVail's
Community Development
Department, said 'there's volumes
and volumes" of paperwork, maps
and diagrams available in his
ofice. Forrest said he's even invit-
ed Lamont to help staff comb
through it.
"There's a long, long history to
this issue," Forrest said. "It really
just depends on how much history
the Town Council wants to see."
ln the end, Lamont said he'll be
happy to help.
"I think we're making some
headway," Lamont said.
Is there room for a view in VailS
Townb staf looking high and lowfor view corridor information
make ttreir final decision. And
arnong the criteria for approving
the project, which includes a total
redwelopment of the town's trade-
. ma* Vail Village Inn, is an uncer-
t'in view of Vail Mountain from
the town's maiii intersection.
"Everyon€ hcws where Chair I
and the Vista Bahn are. You can see
it from the freeway and it's how you
ori€ntate yourself when you come
into town at the rouadabout,"
explainod Tovrn Counoil member
Diana Donovan, who was on the
PEC years ago when the cornmis-
sion documented the 'qeiew corri-
dot'' as part of a plan for another
project, the Gateway Plaza build-
ing. "Everyone has always thoughf
itt important to have places from
where you can see the mountain."
In an effort to both show offVail
Mountait and make the torn more
apprealing to visitors, six other zuch
views of the mountain from difer-
ent locations in the village were
defined decades ago in the original
Vail Village Master Plan and adopt-
ed into the tovrn's code ii. 1992.
Four other such views ar€ protected
by the Lionshead MastEr Plan.
. Since this view was identified in
the master plan in the 1970s, the
Vail Village Inn has been remod-
eled and changed hands, the
Gateway Plaza building has
replaced what used to be a gas sta-
tion, and the four-way stop inter-
s€ction has been replaced by a
roundabout. The Town Council
reviewed and modified the view
corridor from the intersection as
part of a Special Development
District before approving the
Gateway building - w{rich in spite
of a recommendation by staff to
reject tlte project does encroach on
. the viow in question.
Question: Does an official view
corddor over the Gateway Plaza
exist?
Documentation of the view sce-
nario from what's now a round-
about over the Catoway Plaza,
meanwhile, is proving difficult to
compile from archives at Vail's
BY STEPTfiN Lroyn Woon
Dsily fteil Stsf
Tberels a real paper chase going
on these days at Vail's Municipal
Building, where a pro. posal to
build the five-star, $1 l0 million
Vail Plaza Hotel is on the Town
Council's table waiting for, per-
haps, the final review and
approval process.
Council members, considering
fte projectb unanimous appro/al
Monday by . the Planning and
Environmental Commission
(PEC), have asked stafr members
to furnish documentation needed to See YUW Peca 13
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Final approval of a new, $l l0 mil-
lion-dollar Vail Plaza Hotel is loom-
ing on the horizon and would-be
neighbors are weighing in with their
own concerns.
Gwen Scalpello, president of the 9
Vail Road Homeowners Association.
submitted a letter to the Town Council.. Monday addressing two concerns:
Impacts of increased traffio on Vail
Road. and distances the
hotel would be set back
from the ioad.
"We at 9 Vail Road
Condominiums have
strong foelings about the
proposed complex. We
support redevelopment
of the current facility
and welcome the
prospect of an attractive
neighbor," writes
Scalpello representing owners of the
condominium complex that would be
directly across the street from the pro-
posed hotel.
'At the same time, we feel the cur-
rent proposal creates major problems
for Vail Road." .
Original pl4ns for thc plaza, which
will replace the town's landmark Vail
Village Inn, called for a main guest
reached for comment, said other
future projeots - the. Lodge at Vail
land swap site, for example, or expan-
sion of Vail Valley Medical Center -would only exacerbate the problem.
And studies of the scenario so far
have focused on traflic mid-week -
Vail Pl aza Hotel project
Condominium president cites trffic, setback concerns
entrance on the frontage road, along aod therefore don,t address times of
with a loading and delivery facility. healy use, such as Saturdays.
Over the summer and fall, however, ..To not require a left-turn lane
the previous Town Council tequested because of thij study would be short-
changes that resulted in the proposed .sighted' Scalpello writes.
entrance being moved to Vail Roa4 Scalpello also writes that proposed
approximately where Craigb Market setbacks are ..inadequate," and that
exists today. ,.no co:npelling reason', is offered to
"The current proposal ... alleviates waive zoning requirements already on
lhe problems of left-turning exit traf- the books. Allowing this projeci tofic so close to the roundabout," build out to the limits of the Special
Scalpello writes. "(But) it also creates Development District, she writes.
"We support redevelopnent of the current facitity
and welcome the prospect of an altractive
neighbor. At the same time, we feel the current
proposal creates major problems for Vail Road."
- Gwen Scalpollo
President of 9 Vail Road Homeowners Association
a new left-turn problem
Road."
Scalpello, who could
on Vail
not be
"could limit any future
redevelopment of the
remaining phases, which
are under different owner-
ship."
This afternoon, the
Town Council and staff
members are scheduled to
tour the site during a reg-
ular work sessiou. And at
the end of tonight's regu-
larly scheduled' Town
Council meeting, a consultant with
the Denver-based Felsburg, Holt &
Ullevig will present a Traffic Impact
Analysis prepared for the hotel pro-
posal.
"This will be the first time the
engineer will be in town to present the
report," George Ruther, the town's
senior special projects planner, said
Monday.
"It's a firm we've contracted wilh a
lot in the past. In fact they did our
transportation study. Maybe that's
why the applicant chose them, for
their familiarity with Vail."
Rutler, the town's liaison of sorts
for the Vail Plaza project, said.it's not
uncommon for late-comers to weigh
in on the process, as many second-
homeowners are in town only once or
rwrce a year,
A vote on first reading from the
Town Council, meanwhile, has been
delayed un1il Jan. 4." Ruther said.
ygh the b
The view up Vail Road is qre aepect of the Vall piiza Hotel that
has been looked at earefully. Ttre prolec.t is expectedto be com
Sybill Navas had requested more .,
rrmation about what kind of
racf the vail Plaza Hotel would
e on the view corridor and whar
current regulations are regarding
view corridors.' The whole discussion about
views, what they mean and what
thcy're wonh to the town, hegan in
1981. A view corridor is an eyesight
path to Vail Mountain.
effort to adopt four additional .view
corridors, but no new view corddors
were adopted.
Now, said Connie Dorsey, current
mrnager of the Vail Village Inn and
part of the devclopment team for the
Vail Plaza Hotel, he cannot even see
the mountain past the Gateway Plaza
building - a structure that under-
went the same view corridor scrutiny
.lO years ago.
The view corridor may be a moot
point, becausc of the fact thar the
entire matter took into account the
four-way stop. which is no longcr
part of Vail's downrown terrain.
In 1996, a roundabout replaced
the ftrur-way stop. Fr)r drivers enter-
ing the town from the freeway, the
roundabout at least panially blocks
the view up Vail Road with a cluster
of fully-grown trees.
And all Dorsey can see is the red
tape he's been fighting through to try
to gct the hotel put in for the past
three years. "I'd like to see it cnd in
my lif-etime," Dorsey said.
Tom Winter covers Vail, Mintum
and Rerl Cffi He can be reached at
(970) 949-0555 ext 6(M.
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which comes first_ the hotel or the In l9gl, ciry engineers began.
view. looking at 39 views around town, for
Tuesday afternoon, the cormcil, the
-Vail
Planning and Environmen-
city staffand a few curious observeri tal Commission. One such view was
rnarched over to the central Vail the one behcld by guests at the
roundabout to insp€ct the view down torun's former four-way stop, north
of Vail Road.
mawrger,
Vail Village Inn
Vail Road.
Town planner George Ruther In 1983, four views were written
1 assured tfrem that itr.- prr""i"* into thetown's design code via ordi-
de'artment and the oublic worki nance. Those four views_of the skidepartment and the puulit worii nance. Those four - ofthe ski
department recreated what had been slopes from areas in the Vail Village,
the initial view available to tourists of the Clock Tower and of the Gore
who rolled into Vail before the Range - were protcc0ed. The view
roundabout replaced the old four- from the four-way stop was not pro-
way intersection. tccted.
The view corridor has been a In 1993, the town initiated an
point of concern and contention
about whether the Vail Plaza Hotel
should get the bid for the land at the
corner of Vail and S. Frontaee roads.
Hotel developers have beJn strug-
gling for three years to squeezc a six-story hotel and condominium
complex behind the Galeway Plazabuilding. '
Council members Diana Donovan
pleted leglslatively, one way or another, In lanuary 01 Februa?y.
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SPORTS
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for $t 10m
Plaza Hotel
BY SrEpmN Lr,oyp Woop
Doilr llail SW.
Late on a cold, untypically
rainy January night in Vail,
the seven-member Town
Council. Tuesday gave the
green light to a massive,
$l l0 million redevelopment
project that will replace the
landmark Vail Village Inn
and set the agenda for future
development in Vail Village.
'We have an obligation to
rechar-ge this town," Vail
Mayor Ludwig Kurz said
before casting his vote.
"Projects like this are
absolutely necessary to get
that going."
Th€ \/a.il Plaza Hotel pro.
jec! three ycars in the mak-
ing, was debat€d late into the
night in Town Council cliam-.
bers before the final, 4-3
vote on secoad reading to
ap'prove the first nsw lslv of
the year, Ordinance No. 1,
a[owing thc massive, six- to
seven-story, five-star, lunrry
hotel and time-shrc coldo-
minium project to proceed.
Council members Greg
Mofret, Chuck Ogilby dd
Rod Slifer joined Kutz in
ryproving the projec! with
Diana Donovan, Sybill
Navas and Kevin Foley vor
ing against it.
"I would have likfd to vote
for it. I'mju* sorry ue didnt
have two more weeks,"
Donorran said. "I just feel
there arE too nany conditions.
I'd like to se€ them addressed
before vr,e agnorae it"
Ihepo@hcel,mrhe
Frontage Road juS ea* of
Vail's lrtaio rormdabout, ws a
unanimous recommerdation
by th€ toumb Planning and
Environmental Commissiot
in January 1999 - only to be
severely cut dorrn in size o"er
the srimrer to please the pre-
vious Town Couocil, which
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considered it far too 1arge.
The final proposal included a 328,958-
square-foot building that included: 9!)
hotel roon.rs and 4E ffactional-fbe club
units; two restaurants; 4,047 squarc feet
of rctail space; a 15,338- square-foot
conferencc lacility; a 24,799-square-
foot, iirll- scn,ice spa and health club;
and approximately 246 underground
parking spaces.
On first reading two $eeks ago, the
council voted 5-2 in favor of the project
- with a list of 25 conditions for the
ou'ner and developer. rfihldir Prado ofthe
Dayrner Corporation, represcntcd by Jay
Peterson. Since then, thrce potential
snags persisted - "sctbacks" from Vail
Road; hcight and mass specifications and
roof "stepbaoks" affecting views of Vail
Mountain fiom the adjoining Gateway
Plaza building: and employee housing
During the a{ternoon *'ork sessron
Tuesday. the council visircd rhe site to
inspect property lines and proposed set-
backs. Peterson agreed to honor'20-lbot
selbacks, elirninating Llucc lrutcl unirs ir
the process tbr a total of 96.
"I think rvc can make a simple change
and make that happen," Peterson said,
effectively eliminating the setback issue
altogether.
Peterson then said a proposed "flip-
flop" in the distribution of mass bctween
of two poftions ofthe proposcd buitding
for appearance and hcight reasons
wouldn't work. Thc tosn had nothing to
gain, he sai<l and it would go against the
natural grade ofthe land, which descends
from the Frontage Road towards
Meadow Drive and Gore Creek. The
council agreed.
So employee housing becamc the final
potential snag. fhe on-site housing com-
ponent would add 11,000 square fe€t to
the project, as wcll as an additional floor
in one ssclion of the building along the
Frontagc Road.
As one of the conditions, howelel
Dalmer Corp. has 30 days to present a
plan that would place some or all of the
required housing for 38 employees on
site. Petenon asked the council not to
penalize the project ifland can't be found
within Vail's boundaries to build the
employee housing if plans to add the
housing on-site are rejectcd.
Peterson said he would come back to
the council with two proposals: one for
all 38 employees on site; and another for
an unknown portion of the employees.
Vait PlazaHotel finally *realitY
By Tom Winter
DailY Staff Wrher
L vait wilt have a new hotel'
I After three years ofrevisions and
I several weeks ofintensive negotiat-
I ing between the Vail Town Council
I and the develoPers, the Vail Plaza
I Hotel witl be built.
I The council voted 4-3 on second
I reading of the ordinance to approve
I the project. which will be located
I where tlre Vail Village Inn now sits
I on South Frontage and Vail roads'
I outlining its neighbor the Gateway
I Plaza Building.
I fn" one council member who
I changed her mind between the read-
I ing of ttre ordinance the first time
I and this second reading was MaYor
ll Pro-Tem Sybill Navas.
I I ger main concems about the
ll trafnc that will tre generated by the
ll oroiect and the lack of what she
I I inlnr, is good access to the building
ll from the road changed her mind'
ll she said.
ll Nanas said she would have liked
ll to uot. for the Project, but there
ll were stitl some specifics that need-
ll ed to he worked out so she could be
ll comfortable supporting it.
ll All three of the council members
ll who voted against the Project -ll Nuuur, Kevin FoleY and Diana
ll Oonouan - said theY would have
ll titeO to support the projecr, Vail
f needs new hotel blood. but there
fhe Vall Town CouncalYoted 4€ to approve the Vail Plaa Hotel
Tuesday nlght. Gonetruction will bedn thls summet'
were still some concerns they had
that prevented them from backing
it.
"I respect the votes," developer
Waldir hado said, "particularly the
'yes' votes. They substantiated their
votes very well."
Jay Peterson, the attomey repre-
senting the project. has been in front
of lhe town tbr Years now trying to
set various councils to approve it'
Lfter the meeting Tuesday night, he
said li$le other than he was tired.
"I'm oleased," Pelerson said.
t{'m happy for the town of .Vail."
Lamont said it Pained him to see
the council and the town get to the
final phase of approving the project
with a lingering sense of uneasi-
ness.
The uneasiness has radiated from
the residents of the Gateway build-
ing for most of the Project. Chuck
Lipcon, who gave an imPassioned
speech about laws and what they
mean at the first reading of fte ordi-
nance. did not a$end TuesdaY
night's meeting.
Lipconr who represents some of
the owners of condos in GatewaY'
had said he would sue the town for
not fuIlowing its master plan'i*the
project was aPProved'
John Dunn, another attorney reF
resenting Gateway condo interests'
did attend the meeting last night and.
said his clients likelY will sue.
As for what the Project means to
the town" there has been a constant
rinsins of the word "revitalization"
ttrtiug'tr ttt" town chambers since
this project came before this coun-
cil.
Mayor Ludwig Kurz said it is
time for Vail to move forward.
"We have an obligation and an
absolute need to charge this town
back up again," Kurz said.
Construction is exPected to
besin on the hotel this surnmer.
-Tom Winter coven Vail" Minum
and Red Clffi He can be reachcd at
(n0 949-8555 en ffi6.
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The comments at Tuesday
night's meeting were short and were
relayed mostlY bY Jim Lamont'
exeiutive director of the East Vil-
iage Homeowners Association, and
bv Peterson.
Lamont said the Project has
come a long way since the first one
proposed to the council three years
aso. but he still felt, like the oppos-
iis council members, that if there
wJre a few more weeks to iron out
some of the points of contention' the
project would be more acceptable to
all parties..
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,aza.,hotel gets tentative OK
'- Daily Staff Writer
VAIL - The Vail Town Coun-
cil gave initial approval Tuesday
night to the proposed Vail Plaza
Hotel, but council members will
revisit the issue again in two weeks.
Even if the council gives i\nal
approval to the project at that time,
however, tle three-years long plan-
ning process still could be far iiom
over - the owner of a condomini-
um in a building next to the pro-
posed hotel said he and other
residents will sue if the council
changes the town's master plan to
allow the hotel to he built.
The'six-story Vail Plaza Hotel is
to be built on the site of the vail vil-
lage Inn. To approve the proposal,
tlte council would have to make a
major amendment to the special
development district on which the
Village Inn now sits.
"What's significant about this is
that the master plan is a law, and
they're [the town council] breaking
that law," said Chuck Lipcon, who
owns a condo in the Gateway B uild-
ing, next door to the proposed hotel.
"If the rnaster plan can be broken or
not followed, they can put up what-
ever they want wherever they
want."
His f6ar, he said, is that approv-
ing the Vail Plaza Hotel would lead
to high-rise hotels all over town.
,.'[f the town wants to be Bcaver
Creek, that's a choice thcy'll have to
make," Lipcon said Wednesday.
"But a rqaster plan is a promisc to
the present and a promise to the
future. If they change:it, they'r€
breaking that promise."
Lipcon was just one of a long
line of people who appeared before
the town council Tuesday night to
express their conc€rns about - or
suppr-rrt for - the project.
For two and a half hours. devel-
opers, lt-rcal rcsidents, area busi-
nessmen, restauraleurs and
repfesentatives of the Gateway
Building paraded in fiont of the
council raising their voices with
their concems.
"There is truth in every speech
I've heard tonight;" said Jini Lam-
ont, president of the East Village
Homeowners Association, "They
are some of the most passionate
speeches I've heard in these cham-
bers in a long time."
Two of the longest, most detailcd
speeches came from men who reP-
resent the two sides - attorney Jay
Peterson, who represents the devel-
oper, and Lipcon.
"I don't have any presentation
tonighr," Peterson said at the begin-
ning of the discussion. "I've been
doing this presentation fbr three
years."
Peterson rallied behind thc pro-
jcct, saying it does not set a prece-
dent, because it is a special
development district and each spe-
cial development district stands on
its own.
Lipcon eountered that every
developmcnt sets a precedent, and
that projects should take into
account -their neighbors and the.
town's rtlaster plan - a document
that gives an outline of what the
town's zoning will look like,
Peterson said the concerns
voiced by residents who came in to
stand in line and complain to the
council came at the llth hour,
before he could take the concerns
back to the developers and if they
could come up with answers to the
0uesuons.
Residents of the East Villagc
said the project does not work and
that the council needed to stard on
principle. Businessmen argue.!.$at
the town needed new vitalily. ..
Iii the end,tafter the discrissi,olts
of vierv corridors, setbacls, ernploy-
ce housing, the underlying zoning,
traffic and the future of the eco-
nomics of Vail were played out, a
decision had to be made.
The councilvoted 5-2 to apProve
the first reading of the project. Foley
and Diana Donovan voted against it.
Therc are still concassions to be
made, Mayor Ludwig Kurz said.
Employee housing still has to be
finalized - it will either be on-site
or not.
Whether Vail Road needs to be
expanded to accommodate traffic
increases needs to be addressed, as
well, he said.
The issue will come back to the
council in two weeks, to see if any
of the council members have
changed their minds or to see if the
concessions are not enough, as
council member Sybill Navas said, .
"to say yes to this pfoject."
Peterson said WednesdaY, how-
ever, that he believes the devolopels
will be able to come back in two
weeks with answers the council can
accept.
- Assistant Daily Editor Karen
Bowers contributed. to this report. :
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Daily Slrff Wrk r
Vail PlazaHotel closer to realiry
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By Tom Winter
VAIL - At least four of thc scvor Vail Town
Council mcnrbcrs have voiced their support for'
lhc Vail Plaz! llotel.
Chucl Ogilby, Creg I,lotfet, Mclor Ludwrg
Kurz rnd Iiod Slifer all havc eitber said publicly
tllat they suppolt the project or that all of theif
crrocernsahoul it have been clearcd p. And wlrilc
tbe other lhree co!ncil mcnlbe.s havc not voiccd
disirppfoval ol thc proiect. none bave yet voiced
public \uptr()fl.
'l he frrcposcd hotcl would be built on the pre-
scul sitc of the Vail Village Irrn.
The council met Tuesdav aftemoon at a work
scssion to look at what the hotel would do to thc
vrcw of thc mountain fronr the rlain Vail round-
lbout. lhe council spoke $ith the developers'
trafiic enginccrTuesday nighr about tlrccffcct Lhc
lrr.icil \ol (l h \c r'tr lrirlfic urrcr.llr,orr.
Thc c('Irril .rlro (liscrrss*d their Ie$ remairrrng
col]crlns $.ith rcpresenta{ives fmm thc hotet- An(l
a ler\ citizcns lrd feplesentatives ofthe Ciiteway
I'lazu building * which is northwesl of the pro-
posed hotel, also spoke to the coullcil.
While Ogilhv and Kurz mentioled a fcw
aspects ofthe plan lhcy woIld like to seechflt]ged.
both shid the)- think the project is a needed lev
e|rue sou.ce lbr the town-
(buncil mcmbcr Kcvin Foley said he needs
more tir e lo lrl*e his decision.
In thc {r.sr few wecks, Folev said. he has
re j(crcd back atld lbrth bolwccn thirkirrg ths pro-
jert is a rreedcd one for the town and thiDking ir
doesn't quitc llt the entfance to Vcil.
Co0ncil member Diana Donovan was proba-
bly thc mosl critical of all of the council rnentbers
abo0t thc speci{ics ofrhe holel's sitc plan bec4usc
.)f th€ spccial sctbacks aud other cnginccring lee-
wa)'s gived to the developers with the ltotel's spe,
cial developntent district zoning.
A ferv concernr that had be€n loiced by the
coun(il memhers throughout the proccss still lin-
gcrcd in thc lown chambers Tuesday right at tbe
council meeting.
One concern is thc possibility of gridlock on
Vail Road fiom people uttemptiig to turD left into
the main parking garage and the entrance into the
hotel-
Jay Pelerson, lhe developers' represeltativgto
thc council, said he would be willinA to mo!c the
boteL's sidcwalk back so rhat Vail Road could be
expanded to two lanes- should the need arise. But,
he added that he would rather not€xpand the mad
until a problem emcrgcs.
1'he council was split about whether Vail Road
shou)d be expanded immediately to accommodatc
thc prqeci. Larry Lang, the developct.s' trafilc
cnginccl, ,{aid (he road will not be ovedrafflcked.
Lang said there would be minol delays gelting
into the parking slructure, but that lraffic on Vail
l{oad would not bc irnpeded. Thcrc will not bc a
baqkup lo the rnain Vuil rouldabout, he added.
Speclal to lhe Dally
Pictured alo artbt's rende ngs ol what the proposed Vall Plaza Hotel wlll look llke.
Clhuck Lipcon.
a rcprcscntativc ol'
Cateway Plaza's
residential users.
said he doss no(
ftillk the oullrbers
uscd to estintate
trufllc volunrcs rrc
accrlate because
Ihey were laken
1l'(}m lrban-tratlic
estrrrotes-
Jirn Lanonl,
excculi!e direclor
ol the [tst Village Homcowners Association, said
tbal elen lltough the numhcrs tnight work out to(ho$ thJr lherc $ ill not bc traffic problcms. intr,r-
ition lclls hirn there could tre a protrlem in the
tuture if rhe road starts gefiog a lot of fbot and
vchiclc traflic.
Nonetheless. Lamont voiced his suppon ofthc
p'roject, saying it has come a long way sincc it was
propo$cd to [hc council this past spring.
Another ofthe concerns thc council discussed
Tuesda)- night is the whereabouts of cr[ployee
housrrrg-
"This is as importanr as building more hotcl
.ooms in the to\rn of Vail," Ogilby said. Employ-
ee housilrg could be in aflother location in Vail o.
outside of Vail. tho[gh Ogilby sai(l hc would likc
to scc thc enrokrycc housing at th€ hotel site.
Peierson rvarned the council that the project
could not be brilt if he has lo make hotel fooms
inlo roorns for employecs. tsut, he addcd, if thc
council allows hirD to add Inass lo the pmject, he
r ight be able to put rhe housine on site.'fhe whereabouts ofthe employec housing and
the requifemenls for the hqusilg have to be dis-
cussed with the developers ofall threc phases of
lhe projccl bcfore he can sign off on the final plan
given to thr council, Peterson said.
Discussion about the p(ospective hotel have
gone through lhree town councilsi the last two
could ncver reconcile their diffe.ences withdcvcl-
opers to clcar a path fof the hotel's constmction.
Now. two months aftcr the induction of the
ncwcs( council, developers might see ihe prxess
come to a closc. On JaD.4. the coulcil will hear
if dcvelopers hnve ralen t\ejr lasr concems into
considcratiol and giveo them a hotel they are
willing to accept.
"l rvas prcpured,liorn rumormaybe, not to like
this project," Ogilb] said. "l like this proiecl, I
think it will bc good for thc town and good for the
economy."
TonWitxer co|ers Vail, Minnutr und RedCliff.
He cerl be reacheJ et (970) 949 0555 ert 606.