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PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION
September 24, 2007
1:00pm
TOWN COUNCIL CHAMBERS / PUBLIC WELCOME
75 S. Frontage Road - Vail, Colorado, 81657
MEMBERS PRESENT MEMBERS ABSENT
Scot Proper Rollie Kjesbo
David Viele
Dick Cleveland
Anne Gunion
Bill Pierce
Michael Kurz
1. Swearing in of new PEC member by Lorelei Donaldson, Town Clerk, and appointment of Chair
and Vice-Chair
ACTION: Dick Cleveland was nominated to be Chairman
MOTION: Gunion SECOND: Viele VOTE: 6-0-0
ACTION: Bill Pierce was nominated to be Vice-Chairman
MOTION: Gunion SECOND: Viele VOTE: 6-0-0
20 minutes
2. A request for a final recommendation to the Vail Town Council on a proposed major amendment
to Special Development District No. 4, Vail Cascade, pursuant to Article 12-9A, Special
Development District, Vail Town Code, to allow for an increase in the number of dwelling units,
located at 1310 Westhaven Drive/Vail Cascade Subdivision, and setting forth details in regard
thereto. (PEC07-0058)
Applicant: Vail Cascade Residences, LLC, represented by Mauriello Planning Group
Planner: Scot Hunn
ACTION: Recommendation of approval with condition(s)
MOTION: Pierce SECOND: Kurz VOTE: 6-0-0
Condition:
1) The Applicant shall submit an application for Design Review for any and all changes
to the exterior of the Cascade Residences building prior to submitting any application
for a building permit for the same.
Scot Hunn gave a presentation per the staff memorandum.
Commissioner Pierce asked a question regarding employee housing units and this project.
Allison Kent, Mauriello Planning Group, stated that because the applicant was not proposing any
new Gross Residential Floor Area (GRFA) with this application, the Town’s inclusionary zoning
regulations did not apply; therefore, no mitigation was required at this time.
The Commissioners expressed their general support for the project.
There was no public input.
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30 minutes
3. A request for a work session on a proposed major amendment to Special Development District
No. 4, Vail Cascade, pursuant to Article 12-9A, Special Development District, Vail Town Code, to
allow for the development of a mixed use project on the property known as the Cornerstone site,
located at 1276 Westhaven Drive/Unplatted, Vail Cascade Subdivision, and setting forth details
in regard thereto. (PEC07-0055)
Applicant: L-O Westhaven , Inc., represented by Rick Pylman, Pylman & Associates
Planner: Scot Hunn
ACTION: Tabled to November 26, 2007
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Viele VOTE: 6-0-0
Commissioner Viele identified that he has performed some work, such as utility locates for this
project, however, he does believe he can act impartially on the proposed project and does not
see a conflict of interest.
Scot Hunn gave a presentation per the staff memorandum.
Rick Pylman, representing the applicant, gave a presentation regarding the history of the Vail
Cascade Special Development District and how this proposal compares to the previously
approved project on the site. There are 23 free market dwelling units within the project
measuring approximately 52,500 square feet of GRFA. There are four deed restricted employee
housing units within the project measuring approximately 4,000 square feet; any additional
required employee housing would be proposed to be mitigation by pay-in-lieu. All parking for the
project will be in a subterranean structure beneath the project.
Sid Schultz, from GPSL architects, representing the applicant, gave a presentation focusing on
the bulk, mass, and architecture of the project.
Don Guidry, owner of Unit A-71 in Liftside Condominiums, asked when the applicant had been
before the Liftside Board.
Rick Pylman clarified that they met with the Board of Directors for Liftside Condominiums before
the December 2006 annual meeting for Liftside owners.
Nancy Heinen, resident of 1125 Westhaven Lane, stated that she and many of the owners on
Westhaven have concerns with the eventual lighting and landscaping of the site. She urged the
applicant to be sensitive to neighboring properties when designing exterior lighting.
John Perkins and Beth Ayers, of JMP architects and from Otto, Porterfield and Ayers,
representing several owners within Liftside Condominiums, expressed that their clients are
concerned with the height of the towers and the potential for the new structure to block the views
of Liftside units. They are further concerned with the issue of site coverage, and they are
concerned about the proposed employee housing in the lowest level and whether or not
employees could afford the units. They would propose to remove the employee housing so that
the eastern tower could be reduced in height. They also suggested moving Units 8 and 9 from
the eastern tower to the area between the two towers.
Commissioner Cleveland asked about the validity of Ordinance 33, Series 2006. He requested
that Staff clarify exactly which Ordinance for SDD No. 4 applied to any review of development
within Area A and to clarify which previously approved development plan for Cornerstone had
expired.
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John Goodman, representing the Guidrys, owners of a unit in Liftside, asked that the
Commission look at current needs, not the expired project. He asked that the Commission and
Staff review the Town of Vail Municipal Code as it applies to traffic generation and design
standards at Westhaven Drive. He suggested that the existing pedestrian easement (and
associated skier access improvements) be moved to the east or that the easement be
abandoned, allowing for buildings to be shifted to the West and for Liftside ownership to preserve
views. He pointed out that Liftside Condominium Association currently uses the same property
manager as would be contracted for the Cornerstone Building and that this project will directly
compete with the current rental product at Liftside Condominiums; that maybe this density of
units is not needed.
Donnie D’etample, an owner in Liftside Condominiums, asked the Commission to look at the
setbacks and site coverage and the impact on owners at the Liftside Condominiums.
Commissioner Kurz suggested that employee housing should remain on site and if possible
more should be added.
Commissioner Pierce suggested that a site coverage analysis will need to be done for all of Area
A of the SDD. Furthermore Pierce suggested that the applicant talk further with the neighboring
property owners. He expressed support for the varied roof height and composition as a benefit
to the overall architecture and massing within Cascade Village. He stated that the separation
between the East and West towers of the building was appropriate, and he encouraged the
applicant to study the style of the roof forms presented. He continued that it is important to keep
employee housing on site. He suggested that the applicant study the façade facing Westhaven
Drive to add more architectural interest at the street level leading to the Cascade Hotel.
Rick Pylman clarified that it was December of 2005, not December of 2006, when they met with
Liftside Board of Directors.
Commissioner Proper agreed with many of the comments already made by the other members.
He encouraged the applicant to work with the neighboring properties to work out solutions prior
to appearing before the Commission for any final plan review.
Commissioner Viele asked that all previously approved development plans be shown at the next
meeting to help establish what has been previously approved. He stated that a pay-in-lieu for
the employee housing is appropriate.
Commissioner Cleveland expressed concerned about the height of the building and stated that
any height over 71 feet should be justified. He expressed concern about shading of the
Westhaven Drive. He stated that the applicant proposes to create a new and/or enhanced portal
to the ski mountain with this application and that he is concerned about impacts to traffic and
parking. He again asked that Staff clarify all previous approved development plans and
applicable ordinances for SDD No. 4.
60 minutes
4. A request for final review of a major exterior alteration, pursuant to Section 12-7H-7, Major
Exterior Alterations or Modifications, Vail Town Code, to allow for the redevelopment of the
Lionshead Inn and Lionshead Inn Annex (Fogata), and a request for final review of conditional
use permits, pursuant to Section 12-7H-3, Permitted and Conditional Uses, First Floor or Street
Level, Vail Town Code, to allow for attached accommodation units, lodge dwelling units, and
multiple-family residential units on the first floor, and pursuant to Section 12-7H-5, Conditional
Uses: Generally (On All Levels Of A Building Or Outside Of A Building), Vail Town Code, to allow
for the development of a private parking lot, located at 701 and 705 West Lionshead Circle/part
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of Lot 1, Block 2, Vail Lionshead Filing 3, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC07-
0027, PEC07-0028)
ACTION: Table to October 8, 2007
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Viele VOTE: 6-0-0
30 minutes
5. A request for a final approval of a preliminary plan for a major subdivision, pursuant to Chapter
13-3, Major Subdivision, Vail Town Code, to allow for the creation of two new lots necessary for
the redevelopment of the properties known as “Ever Vail” (West Lionshead), located at 862, 923,
934, 953, 1031 South Frontage Road West, and the South Frontage Road West right of
way/Unplatted (a complete legal description is available for inspection at the Town of Vail
Community Development Department), and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC07-0020)
Applicant: Vail Resorts Development Company, represented by Thomas Miller
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Approval, with Condition(s)
MOTION: Pierce SECOND: Viele VOTE: 6-0-0
Condition(s):
1) That the applicant cannot proceed forward with the review and approval of a final plat
for Ever Vail until such time as the Federal Highway Administration, the Colorado
Department of Transportation, and the Town of Vail has approved the relocation and
design of the South Frontage Road, West Forest Road, and the location of the
proposed roundabout.
2) That the applicant shall provide adequate Right of Way for the construction of a two
lane roundabout if the single lane roundabout does not provide sufficient excess
capacity for the long term future. The current preliminary analysis indicates the need
for a single lane roundabout, however it would not be prudent to eliminate the ability
to increase the size of the roundabout in the future by confining it by private
property/buildings. Based on current trends and similar designs the needed excess
capacity may be between 30%-50%, this shall be further analyzed and reviewed within
the final Traffic Report. Any necessary changes to the roundabout design based on
the final approved Traffic Impact Report shall be shown on the plans submitted for
review and approval in conjunction with the Ever Vail Final Plat.
3) That the applicant establishes a stream tract for the Red Sandstone Creek and
provides this tract to the Town of Vail for inclusion into the stream tract system. The
stream tract shall be depicted upon the plans submitted for review and approval of the
Ever Vail Final Plat.
Warren Campbell gave a presentation per the staff memorandum.
Dominic Mauriello, Mauriello Planning Group LLC, representing the applicant, gave a
presentation in which he stated that he understands the issue regarding the Red Sandstone
Creek stream track and dedications that may be required; request that the staff recommended
condition be revised to specifically request the creation of an easement. Furthermore he agreed
with the staff memorandum that the proposed plan does meet the goals and objectives of master
plan.
Commissioner Kurz asked what the impact to the existing wetands there would be.
Dominic Mauriello and Tom Miller responded that the wetlands had been delineated and there
may be some impacts, but it will be mitigated. It was further described that a bridge spanning
the creek would be put in place in conjunction with the Frontage Road realignment.
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Commissioner Pierce requested that future applications show adjacent parcels and building
outlines in context with the proposed Ever Vail.
Commissioner Kurz inquired as to the future of the water treatment plant.
Warren Campbell explained that Eagle River Water and Sanitation District would like to move
certain functions from their current location; however, has indicated that there will always be a
need for some type of water treatment facility in that location.
Commissioner Scott inquired as to the precedence regarding stream setbacks and stream tract
dedications with private development.
Warren Campbell stated that Red Sandstone Creek has a 30-foot minimum setback for
structures from the centerline of Red Sandstone Creek and that the Town has required
dedications of stream tracks previously.
Dominic Mauriello stated that Vail Resorts Development Company (VRDC) has planned to
protect and enhance the creek, but suggested that the rezoning of the creek to Natural Area
Preservation District would unduly restrict VRI from constructing certain improvements to
“amenitize” the natural stream track area (bridges/paths, etc.).
Commissioner Viele asked if the Town (PEC) would review a preliminary plan without some
assurance that the road re-alignment is going to be approved by CDOT.
Tom Miller explained that VRDC is working on memorandum of understanding with CDOT.
Warren Campbell added that staff would not have allowed this application to have proceeded
forward at this point if it were not likely that CDOT was going to approve the relocation. He
added that there have been multiple conversations between CDOT and the Public Works
Department regarding the Frontage Road realignment.
Jim Lamont, representing the Vail Village Homeowners Association asked Tom Kassmel if the
proposed right-of-way shown on the preliminary plan was wide enough for construction of all
elements of the “Grand Boulevard” proposed/envisioned by the Town.
Tom Kassmel, Town Engineer, responded that the proposed right-of-way contained enough
width to accommodate the “Grand Boulevard”.
Jim Lamont then asked if the single lane round about sufficient.
Tom Kassmel stated that based on current projections, a single lane will work to handle future
capacity. He added that the Town also wants right of way dedicated to accommodate any future
expansion of the roundabout.
30 minutes
6. A request for a final recommendation to the Vail Town Council for a zone district boundary
amendment, pursuant to 12-3-7, Amendments, Vail Town Code, to allow for a rezoning from
Arterial Business District to Lionshead Mixed Use 2, located at 953 and 1031 South Frontage
Road (a complete legal description is available for inspection at the Town of Vail Community
Development Department), and setting forth Details in regard thereto. (PEC07-0021)
Applicant: Vail Resorts Development Company, represented by Thomas Miller
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Table, to October 8, 2007
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MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Proper VOTE: 5-1-0 (Cleveland
opposed)
Warren Campbell gave a presentation per the staff memorandum.
Dominic Mauriello, Mauriello Planning Group LLC, representing the applicant, gave a
presentation, stating that he believes that the proposed rezoning meets the intent of the master
plan. However, he would like to request that this item be tabled in order to discuss the wording
of the condition suggested by staff to accompany any recommendation form the Commission.
Commissioner Proper asked why the Commission should upzone property at this time other than
to allow for Ever Vail to move forward.
Dominic Mauriello explained that the Lionshead Redevelopment Master Plan, as amended,
anticipates this development as a detailed recommendation for these sites.
Warren Campbell added that the changes to the Lionshead Redevelopment Master Plan result in
several benefits to the Town such as public improvements and uses, new mixed-use portal,
additional commercial and office space, clean up of the industrial portions of Town, etc.
Commissioner Pierce asked how the applicant will propose to meet employee housing
requirements of this proposed development.
Warren Campbell stated that the applicant is fully aware of the employee housing requirements
and knows they will need to comply; however, there is no plan for mitigating the impact at this
time.
Commissioner Cleveland stated that without a development plan, he is not in favor of approving
a zoning change; approval is premature. The Town should have a better idea of what is going to
be proposed in terms of bulk, mass, and uses.
1 minute
7. A request for a final recommendation to the Vail Town Council, pursuant to Section 12-3-7,
Amendments, Vail Town Code, for proposed text amendments to Title 11, Sign Regulations, and
Title 12, Zoning Regulations, Vail Town Code, to allow for amendments to regulations pertaining
to outdoor display, sales signs, menu boards, and setting forth details in regard thereto.
(PEC07-0043)
Applicant: Town of Vail and Vail Chamber & Business Association
Planner: Rachel Friede
ACTION: Tabled to October 8, 2007
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Viele VOTE: 6-0-0
8. Approval of September 10, 2007 minutes
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Pierce VOTE: 4-0-2 (Gunion and
Proper recused)
9. Information Update
10. Adjournment
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Viele VOTE: 6-0-0
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The applications and information about the proposals are available for public inspection during regular
office hours at the Town of Vail Community Development Department, 75 South Frontage Road. The
public is invited to attend the project orientation and the site visits that precede the public hearing in the
Town of Vail Community Development Department. Please call (970) 479-2138 for additional information.
Sign language interpretation is available upon request with 24-hour notification. Please call (970)
479-2356, Telephone for the Hearing Impaired, for information.
Community Development Department
Published September 21, 2007, in the Vail Daily.