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TO: Planning and Environmental Commission
FROM: Community Development Department
DATE: October 22, 2012
SUBJECT: A request for the review of amendments to a conditional use permit, pursuant to
Section 12-16-10, Amendment Procedures, Vail Town Code, to allow for the
redevelopment of the Vail Golf Course Club House (i.e. accessory buildings,
permanent and temporary, and uses customarily incidental and accessory to
permitted or conditional outdoor recreational uses, and necessary for the
operation thereof, including restrooms, drinking fountains, bleachers,
concessions, storage buildings, and similar uses), located at 1775 Sunburst
Drive/Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3 and Unplatted Parcels (a complete metes and
bounds description is available at the Community Development Department
Office), and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120036)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council for a zone district
boundary amendment, pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code,
to allow for a rezoning of the Vail Golf Course parking lot from the General Use
District to the Outdoor Recreation District, located at 1775 Sunburst Drive/Lot 3,
Sunburst Filing 3, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120037)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council on prescribed
regulation amendments, pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town
Code, to allow for amendments to Section 12-8B-7, Height, Vail Town Code, to
increase the allowable building height within the Outdoor Recreation District, and
setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120039)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Bill Gibson
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I. SUMMARY
The purpose of this hearing if for a work session to allow the applicant, the Town of Vail,
to introduce a proposal to renovate the Vail Golf Course clubhouse. The applicant has
submitted three separate, but related, development applications for the Planning and
Environmental Commission’s review:
• Zone district boundary amendment to rezone the golf course parking lot from the
General Use (GU) District to the Outdoor Recreation (OR) District.
• Prescribed regulation amendments to allow building heights of up to 33 feet for
sloping roofs in the Outdoor Recreation (OR) District.
• Conditional use permit amendments to allow for the redevelopment of the Vail
Golf Course Club House.
For the purposes of this hearing, the Community Development Department
recommends that the Planning and Environmental Commission reviews these three
related items concurrently. Final action on the proposed rezoning, prescribed regulation
amendment, and conditional use permit amendment applications will be requested at a
future public hearing.
The Community Development Department recommends that the Planning and
Environmental Commission listens to the applicant’s presentation, asks questions, and
continues the hearing of these items to its November 12, 2012, meeting for further
review.
II. DESCRIPTION OF THE REQUEST
The applicant, Town of Vail, is proposing to renovate the Vail Golf Course clubhouse.
This proposal involves three development applications subject to Planning and
Environmental Commission review:
• Zone district boundary amendment to rezone the golf course parking lot from the
General Use (GU) District to the Outdoor Recreation (OR) District.
• Prescribed regulation amendments to allow building heights of up to 33 feet for
slopi ng roofs in the Outdoor Recreation (OR) District.
• Conditional use permit amendments to allow for the redevelopment of the Vail
Golf Course clubhouse.
Based upon the applicant’s request (Attachment B), the proposed renovation of the golf
course club house includes the following:
“• Dedicated banquet room with a capacity for 200 people
• Pre-convene space sufficient to support the banquet room
• The common areas, restrooms, elevator and stairs will be shared throughout
the building, however there will be separate entrances for the banquet room and
the recreation uses
• A grill/bar is sized for +/-40 people plus outdoor/deck space
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• A kitchen is sized to serve the grill and a separate “warming kitchen” space for
the banquet space.
• Arrival to Golf/ pro shop and Nordic space should be placed at the parking lot
level
• Project design that provides for both a winter operation plan and a summer
operation plan and any use of the cart barn in the winter should present a
finished quality expected for Vail guests
• The separation of uses and enhancement of circulation throughout site and
within the building
• Locate golf course finish area on the east side of the building in order to
encourage golfers to exit through the grill/pro shop and to clarify circulation on
the front side of the building
• Maintain approximate existing square footages while increasing the efficiency
and functionality of the building
• Two-story tall (4 level) building
• Reuse of as much of the existing building structure is critical to maintain the
original project budget.”
To clarify, the three subject development applications have no bearing on whether the
18th hole will be realigned/reconfigured or if the Hole #18 green or tee boxes will be
relocated. The decision to move Hole #18 was made by the property owner, the Vail
Town Council, based upon safety concerns and other factors not relevant to the three
development applications before the Planning and Environmental Commission.
A vicinity map (Attachment A), the applicant’s request (Attachment B), and written public
comment (Attachment C) have been attached for review and inclusion in the record.
III. BACKGROUND
On November 8, 2011, the Town of Vail electorate approved ballot question #1 which
stated:
“Without increasing taxes, shall the Town of Vail use the remainder of the one
and one-half percent lodging tax revenues and one-half percent sales tax
revenues collected from January 1, 2003 through December 31, 2005 to fund the
following projects that will promote recreation, promote tourism and support the
economy in the Town of Vail:
Expansion and improvement of the clubhouse at the Vail Golf Course and Nordic
Center, including multi-use community space;
Field expansion and restroom renovation at the Ford Park Sports Complex; and
Ford Amphitheater improvements, including outdoor seating and restroom
improvements?”
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On April 16, 2012, the Town of Vail (golf course property owner), in cooperation with the
Vail Recreation District (golf course operator), submitted a final plat application and a
rezoning application intended to facilitate future renovations to the Vail Golf Course
clubhouse building in response to the 2011 election.
On May 14, 2012, the Planning and Environmental Commission approved a final plat
creating the Vail Golf Course Clubhouse Parcel and forwarded a recommendation of
approval to the Vail Town Council for the rezoning of the golf course clubhouse site
from Outdoor Recreation District to General Use District. Based upon subsequent public
input, the applicant has withdrawn those applications.
Prior to submitting new development applications for renovating the Vail Golf Course
clubhouse, the Vail Town Council and the Vail Recreation District held multiple public
hearings and community open houses to obtain additional public input on a variety of
golf course related issues and proposals, including: a re-zoning process for the site,
proposed parameters for use of temporary tents on the clubhouse site, possible uses for
the existing 18th green following realignment of the hole, parking lot access, netting for
the driving range, clubhouse remodel design, including site layout, landscaping,
circulation, floor plans and elevations, etc.
On September 24, 2012, the Town of Vail, in cooperation with the Vail Recreation
District, submitted the subject zone district boundary amendment, prescribed regulation
amendments, and conditional use permit amendment applications to facilitate
renovations to the Vail Golf Course clubhouse.
On October 11, 2012, the Town of Vail and the Vail Recreation District were notified of a
complaint filed by adjacent property owners in Eagle County District Court alleging the
golf course renovation project violates an existing covenant on the golf course property,
among other claims. At this time, the lawsuit does not prevent the Planning and
Environmental Commission’s review of the three submitted development applications.
IV. ROLES OF THE REVIEWING BODIES
Planning and Environmental Commission:
The Planning and Environmental Commission is responsible for forwarding a
recommendation to the Vail Town Council of approval, approval with modifications,
or denial of zone district boundary amendment applications and prescribed
regulation amendment applications, in accordance with the provisions of Section
12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code,
The Planning and Environmental Commission is responsible for final approval,
approval with modifications, or denial of a conditional use permit application, in
accordance with the provisions of Chapter 12-16, Conditional Use Permits, Vail
Town Code.
Design Review Board:
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The Design Review Board has no review authority over a zone district boundary
amendment, prescribed regulation amendment, or conditional use permit
application. However, the Design Review Board is responsible for the final
approval, approval with modifications, or denial of any accompanying design
review application.
Town Council:
The Town Council has the authority to hear and decide appeals from any decision,
determination, or interpretation by the Planning and Environmental Commission
and/or Design Review Board. The Town Council may also call up a decision of
the Planning and Environmental Commission and/or Design Review Board under
certain conditions.
V. NEXT STEPS
Final action on the proposed zone district boundary amendment, prescribed regulation
amendment, and conditional use permit amendment applications will be requested at a
future public hearing. Both the applicant and the Community Development Department
anticipate additional hearings before the Planning and Environmental Commission to
further discuss the various aspects of the applicant’s proposal as the applicant
continues to refine the details of the request. Future work session topics may include:
• Zone district boundary amendment
• Outdoor Recreation District building height amendment
• Development Plans (site and landscape plans, architectural plans, etc.)
• Operations/Management Plans
• Traffic and Parking Plans
VI. RECOMMENDATION
The Community Development Department recommends that the Planning and
Environmental Commission listens to the applicant’s presentation, asks questions, and
continues the hearing of these items to its November 12, 2012, meeting for further
review.
VII. ATTACHMENTS
A. Vicinity Map
B. Applicant’s Request
C. Public Comment
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Last Modified: April 23, 2012
Vail Golf Course Clubhouse
Re-Development
Re-zoning Request
Text Amendment to Outdoor Rec Zone District
Amendment to Conditional Use Permit
Prepared for:
Town of Vail
75 South Frontage Road
Vail, CO 81657
September 24, 2012, revised October 2, 2012
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Vail Golf Course Clubhouse Re-Development
Introduction
The purpose of this report is to provide background information and rationale for
development applications pertaining to the proposed re-development of the Vail Golf
Course Clubhouse. The following information is provided below:
• Summary of proposed Clubhouse improvements,
• Purpose of submittal,
• Background on the Clubhouse and this proposal, and
• Development applications.
This application is submitted on behalf of the Public Works Department of the Town of
Vail in conjunction with participation of the Vail Recreation District.
In 2011 the Vail Town Council took steps to seek voter approval to re-allocate
Conference Center funds to other Town projects. The underlying goal of this effort was
to utilize the approximately $9.4 million on projects that would “increase overall
economic vitality” throughout the Town and among other things have the potential to
increase occupancy, have the potential to increase sales tax growth as a result of the
investment and enhance the experience for those who live, work and play in Vail.
In the Fall of 2011 voters approved the use of Conference Center funds for three projects
– Golf Course Clubhouse improvements, a Vail Village Visitor’s Center and Ford Park
improvements. Specific improvements for each of these projects were defined in
response to the underlying goals articulated in the 2011 ballot language:
Without increasing taxes, shall the Town of Vail use the remainder of the
one and one-half percent lodging tax revenues and one-half percent sales
tax revenues collected from January 1, 2003 through December 31, 2005
to fund the following projects that will promote recreation, promote
tourism and support the economy in the Town of Vail:
Expansion and improvement of the clubhouse at the Vail Golf Course and
Nordic Center, including multi-use community space;
Field expansion and restroom renovation at the Ford Park Sports
Complex; and
Ford Amphitheater improvements, including outdoor seating and restroom
improvements?
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The primary improvements envisioned for the Clubhouse included a new, dedicated
banquet room and a number of other improvements to the facility that would significantly
improve nordic and golf course operations and the overall experience of the guests and
users of the building.
At a very general level, the following vision statement for the project has played a major
role in design decisions over the past months:
“… to design a facility that broadens the appeal of golf and nordic
facilities while expanding the opportunities for year around use, by
creating a unique and special sense of place that is aligned with guest
expectations for a world class destination resort . . .”
This broad vision statement has influenced the overall direction of the project design.
However, many other factors including but not limited to the development program,
operations, existing improvements and overall site features and characteristics have
directly influenced the team’s approach to project design. A plan set of proposed
improvements has been submitted under separate cover.
Specific parameters used in the project design included:
• Dedicated banquet room with a capacity for 200 people
• Pre-convene space sufficient to support the banquet room
• The common areas, restrooms, elevator and stairs will be shared throughout the
building, however there will be separate entrances for the banquet room and the
recreation uses
• A grill/bar is sized for +/-40 people plus outdoor/deck space
• A kitchen is sized to serve the grill and a separate “warming kitchen” space for
the banquet space.
• Arrival to Golf/ pro shop and Nordic space should be placed at the parking lot
level
• Project design that provides for both a winter operation plan and a summer
operation plan and any use of the cart barn in the winter should present a finished
quality expected for Vail guests
• The separation of uses and enhancement of circulation throughout site and within
the building
• Locate golf course finish area on the east side of the building in order to
encourage golfers to exit through the grill/pro shop and to clarify circulation on
the front side of the building
• Maintain approximate existing square footages while increasing the efficiency
and functionality of the building
• Two-story tall (4 level) building
• Reuse of as much of the existing building structure is critical to maintain the
original project budget.
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Purpose of this Submittal
Three related development applications are proposed in order to facilitate the re-
development of the Clubhouse. These include:
1. Re-zoning a portion of the Clubhouse area from General Use (GU) to Outdoor
Recreation (OR),
2. A text amendment to the OR District to increase allowable building height from
21’ (flat roof) and 24’ (sloping roof) to 30’ (flat roof) and 33’ (sloping roof), and
3. Amendment to existing Conditional Use Permit to allow for modifications to the
Clubhouse.
The first step in the PEC’s review of this project will be a series of work sessions, the
purpose of which will be to introduce the project, address the PEC and community’s
initial questions and comments, scope potential issues and get other input on the project.
PEC action on these applications will then be held after final plans have been re-fined.
Background on the Clubhouse and this Proposal
Following voter approval in the fall of 2011 to reallocate a portion of Conference Center
Funds to the Clubhouse project the Town assembled a project team and design work on
project began earlier this year. Since that time the team has held numerous meetings with
the Town Council and the Recreation Sub-Committee to define the scope of the project
and to review progress on the design of the project. In August a neighborhood meeting
was held at the Clubhouse to gather input from the community regarding their issues and
concerns with the project.
The project team is currently involved in a series of public work sessions with the Town
Council. The focus of these work sessions has been to discuss all aspects of the project,
specifically dealing with neighborhood issues/concerns and potential alternatives for how
the zoning, project design and operation of the new facility can address neighborhood
concerns.
In 1986 a Conditional Use Permit for the expansion of the Clubhouse was approved by
the PEC. Main elements of the ’86 expansion was new golf cart storage, expansion of the
bar/dining area, a new meeting room and an expanded kitchen. Today the facility reflects
the plans approved by this 1986 approval. Historically the facility has been used as the
clubhouse for the golf course, for nordic skiing, and for banquets and other special
events.
The Vail Golf Course is located on portions of Vail Village Filing 7 and Filing 8 and on a
number of unplatted parcels. The existing Clubhouse is located on an unplatted parcel
that is zoned Outdoor Recreation (OR). An area generally encompassing the Clubhouse
parking lot is located on Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3 and is currently zoned General Use
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(GU). In both districts “golf courses” are a permitted use and “accessory buildings” (i.e.
the Clubhouse) are a conditional use. As such, an amendment to the current CUP is
necessary in order to allow for the planned re-development of this facility.
Development Applications
The following summarizes the three development applications proposed for the Vail Golf
Course Clubhouse re-development project.
Re-Zoning of Parking Lot from General Use (GU) to Outdoor Recreation (OR)
Currently the Clubhouse area is zoned two different zone districts. The parking lot is
zoned GU while the Clubhouse building and immediate area is zoned OR. Having what
is essentially one development site zoned two different zone districts creates an awkward
situation and this re-zoning request is proposed in large part to remedy this existing
situation.
Either the OR or GU district could provide a suitable and workable zoning for the golf
course clubhouse area. Based in large part on input from the community, the GU portion
of the Clubhouse area is proposed to be re-zoned to OR. Many residents in the golf
course neighborhood expressed concern with the board range of potential land uses under
GU zoning and to address this concern the proposed re-zoning would designate the entire
Clubhouse area as OR.
The OR zone district, while allowing for the golf course and clubhouse use (as a CUP),
does have a very restrictive building height limit. A code amendment to the OR zone
district is proposed to remedy this situation (see below).
Criteria to be used in evaluation of a proposed change to zone district are as follows:
1. How the proposed change in district boundaries is consistent with
the adopted goals, objectives and policies outlined in the Vail
Comprehensive Plan and compatible with the Town of Vail’s
development objectives.
2. How the proposed change in district boundaries is compatible with
and suitable to adjacent uses and appropriate
for the area.
3. How the proposed change in district boundaries is in the best
interest of the public health, welfare and safety.
A response to how the proposed rezoning conforms to these review criteria will be
provided in updates to this application prior to formal PEC hearings.
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Building Height Code Amendment to Outdoor Recreation
The OR district currently limits building height to 21’ (flat roof) and 24’ (sloping roof).
This limitation creates significant design constraints and is also the most restrictive height
limitation of any zone district within the Town. In order to establish a building height
that will allow for the design of an appropriate, quality building a code amendment to
allow for building height of 30’ (flat roof) and 33” (sloping roof) is proposed.
Building height of 30’/33’ in the Clubhouse area is consistent with the building height of
surrounding properties and is thought to be reasonable given the context of this location
and the role the Clubhouse plays in the operation of the golf course. However, building
heights of 30’/33’ may not be appropriate elsewhere on the golf course or on other OR
zoned properties. For this reason a narrowly defined code amendment will be proposed
to limit the locations and/or circumstances where building height of 30’/33’ may be
permissible.
Alternatives for how to amend building height in the OR District include:
1. Limiting the building height increase to specific types of buildings or to specific
locations,
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2. Establishing specific criteria that must be met in order to allow for buildings up to
30’/33’, or
3. Utilizing the CUP process to review the appropriateness of building height up to
30’/33’.
These alternatives will be presented for discussion with the PEC at upcoming work
sessions.
Criteria to be used in evaluation of a proposed amendment to the zoning code are as
follows:
1. How the proposed amendment is consistent with the adopted goals,
objectives and policies outlined in the Vail Comprehensive Plan
and compatible with the Town of Vail’s development objectives.
2. How the proposed amendment is compatible with and suitable to
adjacent uses and appropriate for the area.
3. How the proposed amendment is in the best interest of the public
health, welfare and safety.
A response to how the proposed code amendment conforms to these review criteria will
be provided in updates to this application prior to formal PEC hearings.
Amendment to Existing Conditional Use Permit (CUP)
A CUP is currently in place for the Vail Golf Course Clubhouse. An amendment to
reflect the proposed re-development and use of the new facility is proposed.
Historically the Clubhouse building has been an accessory use to the golf course (cart
storage, lockers, food and beverage, pro shop, offices, etc.), has been used by the Vail
Nordic Center during winter months and as a facility to host banquets, parties and other
functions. The later use has occurred in the existing bar/restaurant area. When used for
banquets and other functions the capacity of the bar/restaurant area has been
approximately 120 people. While this space has been used for these purposes for many
years the existing CUP includes no specific parameters regarding this use of the building.
Proposed uses for the Clubhouse are the same as how the building has historically been
used - the Golf Course will utilize the facility in the summer, the Nordic Center in the
winder and throughout the year the building will be used for banquets and other
functions. While uses remain the same, significant upgrades will be made to the building
and to the overall guest experience of its users. A dedicated space for banquets and other
functions with a capacity of 200 people is the most significant change to the building.
Other improvements include a new bar/restaurant (intended primarily to serve golfers),
improved spaces for the pro shop and nordic operations, expanded golf cart storage, and
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improved lockers, circulation, restrooms, etc. The building and site design will
dramatically improve the sense of arrival to the facility and is also designed to better
organize uses and where necessary separate the various users of the building.
The CUP includes two main elements – the Development Plan (comprehensive design
drawings of the proposed building and site improvements and an
Operations/Management Plan (a document outlining how the facility will be used and
managed). The CUP also includes a diagram defining the area covered by the CUP (see
below). This area includes the Clubhouse building, parking lot and the immediately
surrounding area. Improvements planned for the Clubhouse are located within this area
and commitments or obligations outlined in the Operations Plan pertain to this area.
Below is a summary of the Development Plan and the Operations/Management Plan.
Development Plan
In accordance with submittal requirements for a CUP, a Development Plan for the project
has been submitted. This plan provides comprehensive information on the design of the
building along with site and landscape improvements. Information provided includes
building elevations and floor plans, roof plan, site plan, landscape plan, grading plan and
lighting plan. The Development Plan has been submitted under separate cover.
Development Standards
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The proposed building has been designed to conform to all zoning/development standards
as outlined in the OR Zone District (assuming the proposed height amendment is
approved). Specific information on these standards will be provided as the design
package evolves in the coming weeks.
Parking requirements for the proposed building can be satisfied with minor expansion
and re-organization of the existing parking lot. The following summarizes how parking
has been calculated for the facility.
The Town’s Zoning Code does not include parking requirements specific to a golf course.
As such, parking demand for the course and clubhouse facility has been determined based
on the parking that currently exists and then assessing a new parking demand for the
expansion or change to any of the parking generating uses within the Clubhouse (i.e. the
banquet facility, restaurant and pro shop).
In order to meet the Code requirement for parking, an additional 12 spaces have been
added to the existing parking lot. It should be understood that this parking, while
satisfying code requirements does not address the potential parking impacts of an event
being held in the banquet room during peak golf course operations. In these cases a
Parking Management Plan will be implemented. This plan will be defined in the
Operations and Management Plan for the facility.
Operations/Management Plan
There are currently no parameters or limitations on how the Clubhouse can be used for
banquets and other functions. It is recognized that operational parameters do need to be
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established in order to minimize any potential impacts of the facility on the immediate
neighborhood. The Vail Recreation District is currently preparing an Operations and
Management Plan for the facility. It is anticipated that this plan will address topic such
as lighting, hours of operation, amplified sound, and parking management. This plan will
be an important element of the CUP and it is expected that it will be incorporated into
any final approval for the project.
Criteria to be used in evaluation of a proposed CUP are as follows:
1. Describe the precise nature of the proposed use and measures
proposed to make the use compatible with other properties in the
vicinity.
2. The relationship and impact of the use on development objectives
of the Town.
3. The effect of the use on light and air, distribution of population,
transportation facilities, utilities, schools, parks and recreation
facilities, and other public facilities and public facility’s needs.
4. The effect upon traffic, with particular reference to congestion,
automotive and pedestrian safety and convenience, traffic flow and
control, access, maneuverability, and removal of snow from the
streets and parking area.
5. The effect upon the character of the area in which the proposed use
is to be located, including the scale and bulk of the proposed use in
relation to surrounding uses.
A response to how the proposed CUP conforms to these review criteria will be provided
in updates to this application prior to formal PEC hearings.
Information on each of the three applications will be updated in the coming weeks in
response to input received from the PEC, Town Council and community.
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October 17, 2012
Sunburst Drive Homeowners
c/o Sam Maslak
1979 Sunburst Drive
Vail, CO81657
Planning and Environmental Commission
Town of Vail
75 S. FrontageRoad West
Vail, Colorado 81657
Re: Vail Golf Course Clubhouse andl 8th Hole/Zoning and Conditional Use Permit
Dear Planning and EnvironmentalCommission (PEC):
As you are aware, the Town of Vail plans toenlarge the Vail Golf Course clubhouse,
move the 18thgreen of the golf course, destroy portions of the 18th hole fairway, and use the
entire area as a revenue- and tourism-generating events center. You may also be aware that a
number of us—as neighbors who own homes adjacent to or near the Vail Golf Course—have
filed a lawsuit to prevent the Town from proceeding with its current plans. To meet its goals, the
Town has sought to amend the conditional use permit (CUP) it received in 1986 to expand it in
both sizeand scope. It also seeks to amendthe zone district to change the golf course parking lot
from a GeneralUse District to an Outdoor Recreation District. Finally, it seeks to amend the
zoning for the clubhouse to allow it to increase the clubhouse's height.
As citizens and property owners of Vail, we feel it is important for the PECto be aware
of our position regarding the Town's requests. We do not oppose changing the parking lot from
a General Use District to an Outdoor Recreation District. We also take no position at this time
on the Town's attemptto change zoning relating to height requirements because it is still unclear
exactly what the Town will seek (although we reservethe right to opposethe Town's plans in the
future once they become more clear). We oppose, however, the Town's request toamend the
Conditional Use Permit to allow it to move forward with its proposed changes to the clubhouse,
the 18thgreen, and the 18th hole fairway. While wesupport the effort to improve the clubhouse,
we cannot permit the plan to convert the clubhouse and neighboring area to an event center in
violation of the reasonable expectations of the neighborhood, the voters who approved the use of
convention center funds for clubhouse improvements, and the golf community.
Numerouscitizens have raised objections and issues with the Town Council regarding the
proposed changes to the golf course and its clubhouse, indicating that the Town's current plans
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are unacceptable. Despite this,the Town has refused to address the citizens' concerns or to
change its plans in any meaningful way. The issues are numerous and are so intertwined with
the Town's current proposals that the only way for the Town to address them is to abandonits
current course altogether and begin anew with plans to renovate and update the golf course
clubhouse within its existing footprint and without moving the 18thgreen. That was what the
Town Council members promised was their intent, that is what the voters approved, and that is
what the Vail Golf Course neighbors, citizens of Vail, and golfers support and deserve.
Reasons for Opposing the Town's Plans and Application to Amend the CUP
We opposethe Town's current plan for the following reasons:
1. Development of Program Without Timely Neighborhood, Golfer, orOther
Involvement. The Town failed to engagethe neighborhood and many others effectively during
the development of its plan for conversion of the 18th hole and the clubhouse until after their
plans were fully and privately developed. Even the first notices circulated to the neighborhood,
in connection with a PEC meeting held on May 14, 2012, were misleading. They referred to the
clubhouse" only and notto the area around the clubhouse, the 18thgreen, or the 18th fairway,
all of which the Town has, from the beginning, intended to change. Only after two
neighborhood owners realized the impact of the program did the rest of the owners in the
neighborhood around the Golf Course realize how vast the Town's plans were. By that time,the
Town had already traveled so far down itsintended paththat it either could not or would not
changecourse. It adopted an inflexible position and largely ignored the opinions and opposition
of the golf course neighbors, the golfing community, and even some of the members of the Vail
Recreation District ("VRD").
2.Size/Capacity of Project. The material the Town created and circulated on 5±'
October 8, 2012 clearly indicates that the Town intends to createan event center with an indoor
banquet room"that can accommodate 200 seats (and presumably at least that many people).
The Plan also provides for an outdoor events area that will accommodate as many as 500 people.
Finally, the CUP the Town seeks is approximately eight times as large as the CUP it received in
1986, which covered only the existing clubhouse footprint. It also is an expansion in scope,
since the current CUP does not even mention"events" or"banquets" and provides for a meeting
room of only 506 square feet.
The floor plans the Town distributed indicate that the banquet room will be 2,728 square
feet and the outdoor patio area will be an additional 2,750 square feet. A pre-convene space tied
to the banquet room will be 756 square feet. Finally, a"banquet lawn" to the south of the
covered patio will add an additional 5,000 square feet. The total space for holding events at the
golf course clubhouse will thus total approximately 11,234 square feet. And that does not take
into account the CUP's expansion to include the current 18th greenand portions of the fairway.
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By contrast, the pro shopand golfer grille will total only 2,812square feet. These numbers leave
no doubtthat the planned facility will be a large and substantialevent center with coincidental
golf space ratherthan a golf clubhouse that also occasionally serves other community functions,
which the November 2011 ballot question indicated was the Town's intent.
3. Orientation of Any Event Activity Area. Because the golf course neighbors'
homes sit east and south of the clubhouse, the Town's current plans will maximize the nuisance
to the neighborhood. The Town intends to configure the new events center so that all banquets
and outdoor activities occur to the south and east of the clubhouse. Special events held in this
area in the past havebeen disruptive to the neighborhood and have forced neighbors to call the
police. Rather thandevelop a plan that would reducethe likelihood of such problems, the Town
has instead proposed plans that will increase them substantially, both in number and in physical
scope.
At least one member of the community proposed a potential alternative plan that would
have amelioratedmany of the golf course neighbors' concerns. The Town refused even to
acknowledge thatproposal, and weeks aftertheyreceived it, some members of the Town Council
admittedthey did not even review it.
4. Parking, Congestion, and Safety Issues. The Town intends to increase the
parking lot capacity by roughly 11%. Although the Town has represented that it no longer
desires—as it originally planned—to replace the 18th green with additional parking, it is unlikely
that the Town will be able to host thetypes of events it contemplates without increasing parking
capacity and further deteriorating the quality of the golf course. The CUP the Town seeks will
allow it to increase the parking lot's size or add other parking at a later date. Moreover,the
Town's plans are subject to the requirements of the PEC andthe Design Review Board, which
could render the commitment of no furtherparking expansionmeaningless if neither the PEC nor
the DRB will permit the Town's dramatic expansion plans without significant additional parking.
In addition, the Town's plans raiseserious safety and congestion concerns. According to
itsplans, events scheduled at the clubhouse may begin as early as 4 P.M. At that time, golfers
will still be on thecourseand their cars in the parking lot, which will not have the capacity for
both golfer vehicles and event attendee vehicles. The result will be individuals parking along the
shoulder of Sunburst Drive, which creates hazards for emergency vehicles trying to access the
neighborhood, as well as severe congestion for the residents and substantial risk to the bikers and
runners who use Sunburst.
In sum, there is no way the Town can implement its plans without either expanding the
parking lot into the 18th green or creating serious congestion and safety issues.
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5.Destruction of 18th Fairway and Green. The Town currently planstoshorten
the18th fairway and move the18th hole east of the clubhouse, converting the current 18thgreen
into a putting/practice green that could also host large tent events. Only aftervoters raised
concerns did the Town invent a number of safety concerns in an attempt to justify the move.
These safety concerns, which were never mentioned in connection with the proposal to spend
convention center funds on thisproject, are nothing morethan a smokescreen that will allow the
Town to proceed with cutting off the western third of the18th hole, all for the purpose of raising
revenue for itself through the event center. Even if the Town's "no additionalparking"
commitment were credible, there is simply no way of knowing how the Town will use that
property if it receives the CUP it is requesting, both now and in the future. The uncertainty
regarding how the Town intends to use the 18th green will serve asa perpetual cloud over the
neighboring properties and will significantly reduce the value of neighboring homes.
6. Noise. The Town's plans will create noise that will serve as a nuisance to all
homeownersalong the18th fairway and current 18th greenand in the adjoining townhomes.
Indeed, the expansive use of the facility as a revenue-producing events center raisesthe
following concerns regarding noise:
a.Orientation of activities. The Town's current proposals place activitiesin
the one location that will maximize the noise nuisance to the homeowners.
b.Lack of effectivecontrol. The Town has shown an inability to control the
noise level of events held in the modest space already at the clubhouse,
even whenneighbors complain. If the Town succeeds in creating an event
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will be severe. When the windows and doors are opened, the building
itself will act as an amphitheater, magnifying the volume of events held
there. Music, crowd, and traffic noise will cause a diminution in value of
the neighbors' homes.
c.Hours of operation. The Town plans to allow music to continue at the
new events center until midnight each night and activities may continueto
2:00 A.M.. The attendees likely will notall leave until some time after
that. Such late hours will prevent those in the neighborhood from
experiencing any peace and quiet at a late evening hour, something many
of the homeowners relied on havingwhenthey purchased their properties.
d.Estimates suggest the center will host more than 100 events per year, and
the number could be substantially more than that.
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7. Lighting. Lighting associated with evening activities will be a nuisance to the
neighborhood in several respects. Because lightingfor outside activities will most likely be
affixed to the building, it will shine toward theresidences, creating a continuing glare. Any
lighting sufficient to illuminate the outdoor banquet areas will almost certainly be bright enough
to illuminate the adjoining properties as well. And because lighting will be necessary beyond the
periodwhen events occur, as people are leaving to their vehicles, it will be a problem well past
midnight, resulting in an aggravated impact on the neighboring residences.
8. Erratic Behavior and Lack of Law Enforcement. During past social gatherings
at the clubhouse, which were much smaller than that which the Town is proposing to host, the
conduct of attendees has often been out of control, resulting in safety issues and disturbance to
the neighborhood. And calls to law enforcement havebeen ineffective. Larger events designed
to be outside will only increase such activity.
9. Tents. The CUP the Town is seeking will allow it to use the18th fairway and the
18thgreen as a venueto raise large tents under which they can host affairs even larger than those
contemplated for the events center itself Such a use will only exacerbate the issues we have
already raised, including noise, lighting, and unruly behavior, and will create opportunities for
other nuisances and torts, such as trespasses onto the residentialproperties. The information the
Town has circulated indicatesthat the Town will prohibit private parties from using tents but that
the Vail Recreation District may still use tents for special public events. The issues we have
raised, however, are as much a concern for public functions as they are for private ones.
Moreover, the Town could change its policy in the future to allow tents for private events.
10. Reconfiguration of Driving Range Nets. The Town insists on increasing the
height of the driving range nets, which will distractgolfers, tourists, motorists along I-70, bikers,
and others attempting to enjoy the scenery. No valid reason exists for reconfiguring the driving
range nets, especially if the Town abandons its plan to move the18thgreen. The movement of
thegreen is what places golfers in danger. The Town's current plan is forcing it to spend large
sums of moneyto address safety concerns that would not exist if the Town would simply
reconsider its current course of action.
11. Lack of Buffer to Protect Residences. Whatever activities occur at the current
parking lot, the current clubhouse site, or at the current location of the 18th fairway and green,
the impacts onthe neighborhood will be significant. There is simply no way to buffer the
homeowners from the activities. At Donovan Pavilion, the nearest residence to the building is
approximately twice the distance as is thenearest residenceon Sunburst Drive to the Vail Golf
Course clubhouse. In addition, at Donovan, Gore Creek and a wide and dense growth of
evergreen trees shield the nearby residences. If thisproject goes forward in any manner other
than by simply creating a quality golf course clubhouse with no significant event facility, the
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neighborhood residences will experience substantial reduction in value and will require increased
protection from both parkingactivities and event functions.
12. Uncertainty Regarding Zoning and Development Plans. Because of the broad
options available under the zoningregulations, if the PECwere to grant the Town's requested
changes to the CUP, the Town would have broad flexibility regarding how to use the clubhouse,
the18th green, and the18th fairway. This is especially true because the Town refuses to be
bound by any of the proposals it has put forth to the PEC. The uncertainty regarding how the
Town intendsto use the property prevents the residents of the adjoining properties from the
normal use of their residences, decreases the property and resale value of the golf course
neighbors' homes and properties, andleaves open the possibility that the Town will, at a later
time, use the property for purposes other than those it now identifies.
13. GeneralConsiderations. In addition to the issues identified above, the following
more generalconcerns also warrant consideration:
a.the events center will likely compete with a number of local businesses;
b.given other event centers that are existing or soon coming on-line, the
Townsimply does not need another event center orwedding venue;
c.the Townwould spend far toomuch on this project, draining its reserves
and committing future revenues, which will result in less funding to be
available for Ford Park improvements and other Town priorities;
d.many or all homes and townhomes along Sunburst Drive will lose
substantial value, which could result in additional costs to the Town for
this project; and
e.the operation of the proposed center would be a money-losing
proposition, but if the Town were to abandon its plan and limit itself to
renovating the clubhouse only within its existing footprint, it could save
millions of dollars, which should make the project an operational and
financial success.
Requested Actions
Werequest that the PECdeny the Town's requesttoamend the CUP, which needs no
amendments to renovate the golf course clubhouse within its current footprint, as the Town
promised was its intent. The Town never mentioned to the voters of Vail its intent to move the
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18th green or to expand the events capacity of the clubhouse in such a dramaticfashion. As long
as it intends to do so, we request that the PEC deny the Town's application. The Town must
develop the golf course clubhouse in a way that fits within the existing footprint andmeetsthe
needs of the entire community, not the demands of a few special interest groups.
Respectfully,
Sir k P// //444igi
Samuel H. Maslak
Cdr. LuletaMaslak
R. Glenn Hilliard
Steven B. Chotin
Deborah L. Webster
Richard J. Callahan
Mary Celeste Callahan
Curtis Olson
Landon Hilliard
Lee Chapman
Sandra Chapman
Richard Knowlton
Nancy Knowlton
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Bill Gibson
From: Dale Bugby < DaleFromVail@Hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:22 PM
To: Bill Gibson
Subject: Golf clubhouse
Follow Up Flag: Follow up
Flag Status: Completed
I am strongly opposed to any latitude of interpretation on Pulis deed restriction. Do not allow any expanded use beyond
golf at that location.
Dale Bugby
970-390-9600 m
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Bill Gibson
From: Lynne Campbell on behalf of CommDev
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 9:08 AM
To: Bill Gibson
Subject: FW: Vail Golf Club renovation
From: George Lazarus [mailto:george.lazarus@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 20124:16 PM
To: CommDev
Subject: Fwd: Vail Golf Club renovation
Dear Vail Planning Commission,
We completely agree with Gretchen Busse and ask that you reconsider this project. If you upgrade the
clubhouse within its current footprint you will not upset the entire local community around it.
Shelly and George Lazarus
1720 Sunburst Drive, #2
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From: Gretchen Busse <gretchengb@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, Oct 18,2012 at 11:15 AM
Subject: Vail Golf Club renovation
To: comdev@vailgov.com
Dear Planning and Environmental Commission,
We 15 town home owners on Sunburst Dr. facing the Vail Golf Club and parking lot strongly oppose
this over embellished club house and 18th green renovation. We would very much welcome and
want a renovated clubhouse and Nordic center with a grill. But an event center anticipating 100
events a year; that's 3-4 per week with hours until 2 am is ridiculous for a residential
neighborhood. The lighting, noise and departing traffic late into the night would be too much,
particularly with windows open in the summer. There is no buffer for we residents across the street.
And not to mention the devaluation of our property from this nuisance!
Also, parking often overflows on to Sunburst Dr shoulder making it dangerous for emergency
vehicles, many bikers and just walking the dog.
We want the clubhouse renovated within its current footprint and the 18th to remain as it is as was
voted
Thank you,
Gretchen Busse, a 20 year full time resident.
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Bill Gibson
From: Lynne Campbell on behalf of CommDev
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 2:25 PM
To: Bill Gibson
Subject: FW: To Whom it May Concern re: the Vail Golf Course and Club House changes
From: Greg Hall
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 2:10 PM
To: CommDev
Subject: FW: To Whom it May Concern re: the Vail Golf Course and Club House changes
PEC Comments
From: Malia Cox Nobrega [mailto:malia@crossroadsvail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:19 PM
To: Greg Hall
Cc: Juan M Garcia
Subject: Fwd: To Whom it May Concern re: the Vail Golf Course and Club House changes
Greg, please see the below email from a homeowner. I have asked that any owners with comments, please send
them to me to send or for them to send it directly themselves. I was going to put on the email to send to you all
directly but I didn't get a response back that I saw of what email addresses. For that reason I will forward them
as they come through and will cc the owner themselves so that you can see that I did not alter their email. I will
send all of them both positive and negative as I encouraged them to express their feelings themselves and not
rely only upon management and the Boards etcetera to convey their thoughts. I noted that some people
(particularly people that rent) may feel differently than the Board as a whole and that if they are supportive they
too should chime in on their opinions. I don't know if they will because I worry that everyone is on overkill
with all this but I hope that they will do so. I wasn't comfortable forwarding emails that they sent to me
previously because I didn't know how to properly convey the message because they often forwarded other
comments from other people in their email stream and those comments out of context may have been hard to
understand etcetera. In other words, I asked them to do a free standing letter that they write themselves about
their feelings about the project. I cannot be sure that they read what I sent with all the emails we send now on
the subject but I tried.
I have gotten much positive feedback from owners seeing that the applications to the PEe are now not trying to
change the zoning to general use. That has had very positive feedback. Several people have also expressed that
if there has to be an "event venue" or banquet room for events, then they are glad to see that they are pursuing
the operating agreement although a couple that have read it says they feel it still needs work in areas. They are
glad to see the prohibitions against tents, no amplifiers etcetera as positive components.
I have not received any positive feedback from any homeowners on holding regular events at this location
although there may be some people that rent that feel positive about it but they have not expressed such. Only a
handful of people that I am aware currently rent in these townhomes. Maybe the email I sent out saying to
express both positive and negative feedback and I did indicate that people who rent may be more inclined
towards the idea of a venue for events (as it may help with rentals). Please add the below email to feedback and
I will forward more in the future. Please send me the best emails to send this feedback. Thank you.
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From: alvaro garcia de Quevedo <aquevedo@notaria55.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 10,2012 at 1:48 PM
Subject: To Whom it May Concern
To: Malia Cox Nobrega <malia@crossroadsvail.com>
As neighbors of Sunburst Drive (Unit 24Vail Golfcourse Townhomes) we are concerned about the plans for the golf
course area.
The TOV has most of the time been assertive in the upgrades made in order to generate more value to Vail property
owners.
I am concerned that our neighborhood could be transformed into an event venue place where traffic, noise, alcohol and
other inconvenients may arise. We do not want to become the "bad place" to live. We don't want other people making
money on new venues while diminishing the general property area.
Upgrades are always welcome but keeping in mind that our neighborhood is a place where not only neighbors, but Vail
residents make outdoor activities (golf, running, cycling, etc.).
We have been owners in the golf course area since 1981, although we live abroad we are regular visitors to Vail both in
winter and summer seasons. Any proposal to the golf course area must have in mind ABOVE ALL that the benefits have
to be for the neighborhood, not for the visitors that will go to a party event in a new venue.
Thank you and best regards.
Alvaro Garcia de Quevedo F.
Notaria 55 DF
aquevedo@notaria55.com
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Bill Gibson
From: Lynne Campbell on behalf of CommDev
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2012 2:25 PM
To: Bill Gibson
Subject: FW: Golf Course
From: Ahgramm@aol.com [mailto:Ahgramm@aol.com]
Sent: Friday/ October 19/ 2012 1:56 PM
To: CommDev
Subject: re: Golf Course
The town of Vail had managed to trod-over or manipulate too many covenant articles to benefit their
own commercial desires. What was once a charming and delightful village has ---or, is becoming just
another town controlled by the almighty dollar.
I know who carries the biggest stick and it is sad that it takes legal action to stop that stick from
beating any faster than it does.
Annemie Gramm---413 Gore Creek Drive
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Bill Gibson
From: Gretchen Busse <gretchengb@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 6:12 PM
To: Bill Gibson
Subject: Fw: Vail Golf Club renovation
-----Original Message ---
From: Gretchen Busse
To: comdev@vailgov.com
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 9:15 AM
Subject: Vail Golf Club renovation
Dear Planning and Environmental Commission,
We 15 town home owners on Sunburst Dr. facing the Vail Golf Club and parking lot strongly oppose this over embellished
club house and 18th green renovation. We would very much welcome and want a renovated clubhouse and Nordic
center with a grill. But an event center anticipating 100 events a year; that's 3-4 per week with hours until 2 am is
ridiculous for a residential neighborhood. The lighting, noise and departing traffic late into the night would be too much,
particularly with windows open in the summer. There is no buffer for we residents across the street. And not to mention
the devaluation of our property from this nuisance!
Also, parking often overflows on to Sunburst Dr shoulder making it dangerous for emergency vehicles, many bikers and
just walking the dog.
We want the clubhouse renovated within its current footprint and the 18th to remain as it is as was voted
Thank you,
Gretchen Busse, a 20 year full time resident.
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Bill Gibson
From: Lynne Campbell on behalf of CommDev
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:42 AM
To: Bill Gibson
Subject: FW: Vail Golf Course
From: Richard deC HINDS [mailto:rhinds@cgsh.com]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 20124:31 PM
To: CommOev
Subject: Vail Golf Course
I have very concerned that the plans still seem to leave open major changes to the signature hole at the golf course. It is
totally unnecessary to eliminate part of the fairway to the 18Th hole and eliminating the 18th green and truncating the
fairway would be an even bigger mistake. I thought that idea was off the table but it appear that it could be sprung back to
life without much advance warning to the golf community. It is very important to Vail's success as summer destination
that the golf course not be wrecked in this manner.
Sincerely
Richard Hinds
74 Willow Road
Richard Hinds
Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP
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Bill Gibson
From: Lynne Campbell on behalf of CommDev
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:42 AM
To: Bill Gibson
Subject: FW: Golf Course Renovations
From: Malia Cox Nobrega [mailto:malia@crossroadsvail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:35 AM
To: CommDev
Cc: Alberto Abed; Alexander Bracken; Cynthia Scott; Enrique R Miranda Paz; Eric Balzer; James F. Tiampo; Jose
Lanzagorta; Juan M Garcia; Marvin Hein; Michael Griffinger; Waldo F. Geiger; Abbey &Alyne Kaplan; Bernard Minkow;
Bob Rule; Brooks and Linda Zug; Dave and Lynne Creager; David Zinni Earl J. Rusnak, Jr.; George Hallenbeck; Helen &
Morris Ginsburg; James & Elaine LunneYi Jean Gordoni Jean Halli Jeff & Adele Stalderi John & Penny Terhar; John and
Susan Gowen; John L. Griebling; Jorge Conseco; Jorge Dunand; Leonard J. & Laura Berlik; Luis HarveYi Manuel Girault;
Michael & Valerie Katz; Peter M. & Helena M. Leslie; Rebeca Jimenez-campos; Rene & Aurora Leon; Richard & Sandra
Collier; Robert Trotta; Robert W. Geyer; Sergio J. and Sara Armella; Spencer Swaim; Steve & Brigid Wilkening; Susan
Townsend; Arlene Bobrow; Bob and Liz Kivlandi Brian Barish; CurtiS and Kris Olson; Dennis SCioli; Donald Ferlic; Dunvil
Properties LLC; Harry Stephenson; Kevin Murphy; Lee G. Schulman; Lyn Batcheller; Manuel Orvananosi Marc Lippitt Mr.
Scott Shwayder; Michael S. Barish; Philip L. Bernstein
Subject: Fwd: Golf Course Renovations
Please see the below email from one of the homeowners at the Vail Golfcourse Townhomes.
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From: Alyne Kaplan <awk3569@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 19,2012 at4:15 PM
Subject: Golf Course Renovations
To: Malia Cox Nobrega <malia@crossroadsvail.com>
Malia
Would you please forward the following letter to the appropriate parties. I think some of the facts contained in this letter
may not have been addressed in the decision making process regarding the Golf Course Renovations.
Thank you
I am the owner of Unit 55 at the Vail Golf Course Townhomes. My husband and I have owned our this home in Vail for
over 16 years and prior to that owned a condominium in Lionshead. Our property manager has been continually
presenting information from all sides on this issue (information from Vail Recreation District, the Town, neighboring
owners) and I wanted to take the time to express my opinions regarding the ongoing project plans at the Vail Golf Course
area.
First, I am thrilled that a long overdue face-lift and improvements are being implemented for the
clubhouse and outbuildings for the course. Everyone seems to agree that this is very much needed
so we are thankful for these efforts. I am also grateful that the Town and the Vail Recreation District
has changed its plans from trying to rezone to general use, this is a great relief. Thank you for
listening to these important concerns from the neighboring owners.
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I disagree with the notion that this venue and location is similar to having a community venue like
Donovan Pavilion and Eagle-Vail Pavilion. Both Donovan and Eagle-Vail have open space around
them and had no structures or facilities located on the property when the neighboring homeowners
bought their homes in the vicinity of these venues. Additionally, there is a much more substantial
barrier between these venues and nearby owners compared to our situation at the Vail Golf Course
where things are quite dense in comparison. For example, Donovan Pavilion has huge areas of
grass lawns, parks etcetera and on the areas that are closest to adjacent private residences, Gore
Creek runs between homes and the venue along with mature trees. In Eagle-Vail the nearest
properties are Homestake Peak School (formerly Battle Mountain High School), the community golf
course, pool and tennis courts. No one lives even close to that venue in comparison.
Conversely, at the Vail Golf Course clubhouse area we are very close together in this area and the
land that you are working with is substantially smaller. I for one do not feel it was reasonable for
people that purchased here to anticipate that such a change was a likelihood. I don't know all the
specifics or if the position of the Sunburst owners is 100% accurate but it is my understanding that
there was good reason to feel protected by the deed restrictions in place on the parcel in question. It
also doesn't make good sense to me to add a venue to this area given the limited land for appropriate
facilities for parking. It is too close to neighboring residences that will likely be adversely
impacted. Even now there are several times per year that we as neighbors in the area ignore illegal
parking along the road for people that are at the clubhouse or the golf course when it is beyond its
parking capacity. I am told that you are planning to have approximately 150 events per year at this
new venue in addition to what already takes place. The single entry road is a slow moving (15 mile
an hour zone that is already a challenge due to the fact that it is shared with the bike path. During the
summer there are numerous bikers, including many small children riding to the connecting bike path
through the golf course. Bringing more traffic to the situation seems undesirable on several levels. I
just don't see how this can turn out well.
I believe many if not most of the owners that bought property in this area did so (and at a substantial
premium) for the proximity to the Vail core while at the same time having a true "neighborhood" that is
quiet and out of the "hustle and bustle" of the main Vail area. It feels a bit like the reasons for our
purchase are being jerked out from under us now. I cannot help but wonder if this will negatively
impact our property values over time. Yes we want a newer facility to replace the dated facility but we
had no idea that the price for that would be to change the character of the neighborhood at the same
time. I also wonder if this event venue is taken out of the equation if this lawsuit from the Sunburst
owners would also go away. As an avid golfer of the course I feel any changes to the 18th hole will
diminish its appeal. I am sure cheaper and less impacting alternatives could be explored to protect
from errant balls from the driving range, however, I have played there for many years and have not
found there to be an issue.
I ask you to consider if you would have pursued this position (given the neighbors concerns) if many
of these neighbors were entitled to vote in the elections process locally? Actually I don't remember
the proposal approving the transfer of the monies to be used for the improvement of the clubhouse
including any type of event venue. Maybe we as owners in this area, other than the Sunburst
owners, have not done an adequate job of letting you know how disturbing this is to the other
neighbors. If we had better expressed ourselves without relying upon our property manager then you
would understand how important this is us as well. It may be wrong to feel as though we are being
treated like second class citizens as second homeowners, but I must admit these continued plans
have left me with pangs of feeling that this is what I never thought I was "just a second
homeowner.II I have always felt like a part of this community in all these years of owning in Vail and I
want to keep those good feelings. I am hopeful that if we express ourselves more and you
understand how so many of us feel that this can get back on track and avoid the nightmare of drawn
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out litigation. As you are certainly aware, litigation will not only undermine pocketbooks for everyone
including the Town, but will also undermine the community spirit in the process.
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen to my concerns. I realize that it is not possible to
make everyone happy and that you have changed some things based upon expressed concerns, but
I do feel that the plan in its current form still seems to be negative for a great deal of people and not
just a few. I anxiously await the study on expected revenues from these changes in the report that I
have been told is forthcoming from the VRD and the Town. I have a hard time believing that the
revenue is going to be impressive enough to put everyone through this.
I feel very strongly that many other neighbors agree with my position so I am asking our property
manager to cc the other homeowners in the Vail Golf Course Townhomes on this email to give them
an opportunity to if t add their position either in support of your plans or against them as I certainly
don't want to speak for everyone. I encourage them to "reply to all" with their opinions on the project
and if they support it then they deserve to be heard as well. If those owners wish to send their
opinions without everyone else seeing them then they can certainly send it directly
themselves. Please other owners, make your opinions known on something that is the biggest effect
on our neighborhood in the entire time that I have owned. Although Malia has done a great job at
trying to convey how we feel to the Town, it impossible for her to fully express what only we can do
individually.
Sincerely,
Alyne Kaplan
Malia Cox Nobrega
Crossroads Realty Ltd
malia@crossroadsvail.com
www.searchvailmls.com
970-476-4300 office
970-977 -1041 cellular
970-479-9534 fax
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Bill Gibson
From: Lynne Campbell on behalf of CommDev
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:42 AM
To: Bill Gibson
Subject: FW: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN RE VAIL GOLF COURSE RENOVATIONS
From: Malia Cox Nobrega [mailto:malia@crossroadsvail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:37 AM
To: CommDev
Cc: Jean Hall
Subject: Fwd: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN RE VAIL GOLF COURSE RENOVATIONS
Please see the below email message that I was asked to forward to you on behalf of the homeowner. Thank
you.
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From: <DANDJHALL@aol.com>
Date: Mon, Oct 15,2012 at 9:25 AM
Subject: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
To: malia@crossroadsvail.com
I own a condo in the Vail Townhome Golf Course area--Unit J-32. I've been an owner since the late 80s and always have
enjoyed having close access to the Vail Golf Course. I am a golfer and I really hate to see the 18th hole shortened. I do
feel it will make the course too easy and won't appeal to players as much. I also think there's a good chance that the
owners near the hole will sue if the 18th hole is changed, which will greatly delay the renovation and increase costs.
I think the golf shop/pro shop area and restaurant have long been in need of an upgrade, but I'm not at all in favor of
adding an event venue. I know those who are interested in the latter, say there will be no parking problems, but I find that
very hard to believe. Are they only thinking of having the venue open for evening events?? A capacity of some 200 in the
event facility would at the very least need 100 parking spaces--where will they be located? Will they then have to allow
parking on Sunburst Drive? I'm also concerned with the possible noise factor. One reason I bought in this area instead of
Vail Village or Beaver Creek was because it was quiet and a bit off the beaten track.
I am also completely against the idea of changing the space to general use zoning.
I'm sorry I couldn't be present to voice my concerns in person.
Sincerely
Jean Hall, Unit J-32
Malia Cox Nobrega
Crossroads Realty Ltd
malia@crossroadsvail.com
www.searchvailmls.com
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970-476-4300 office
970-977 -1041 cellular
970-479-9534 fax
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Bill Gibson
From: Lynne Campbell on behalf of CommDev
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:41 AM
To: Bill Gibson
Subject: FW: To Whom it May Concern re Vail Golf Course
From: Malia Cox Nobrega [mailto:malia@crossroadsvail.com]
sent: MondaYI October 22 / 20128:48 AM
To: CommDev
Cc: Juan M Garcia
Subject: Fwd: To Whom it May Concern re Vail Golf Course
Please see below from homeowner requesting that I send to the appropriate parties.
----------Forwarded message ---------
From: alvaro garcia de quevedo <aguevedo@notaria55.com>
Date: Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1 :48 PM
Subject: To Whom it May Concern
To: Malia Cox Nobrega <malia@crossroadsvail.com>
As neighbors of Sunburst Drive (Unit 24) we are concerned about the plans for the golf course area.
The TOV has most of the time been assertive in the upgrades made in order to generate more value to Vail property
owners.
I am concerned that our neighborhood could be transformed into an event venue place where traffic, noise, alcohol and
other inconvenients may arise. We do not want to become the "bad place" to live. We don't want other people making
money on new venues while diminishing the general property area.
Upgrades are always welcome but keeping in mind that our neighborhood is a place where not only neighbors, but Vail
residents make outdoor activities (golf, running, cycling, etc.).
We have been owners in the golf course area since 1981, although we live abroad we are regular visitors to Vail both in
winter and summer seasons. Any proposal to the golf course area must have in mind ABOVE ALL that the benefits have
to be for the neighborhood, not for the visitors that will go to a party event in a new venue.
Thank you and best regards.
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Alvaro Garcia de Quevedo F.
Notaria 55 DF
aq uevedo@notaria55.com
Malia Cox Nobrega
Crossroads Realty Ltd
malia@crossroadsvail.com
www.searchvailmls.com
970-476-4300 office
970-977 -1041 cellular
970-479-9534 fax
2
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and Kris Olson <curtis-olson@comcast.net>; Dennis Scioli <gemvest@yahoo.com>; Donald Ferlic <sf8888@aol.com>;
Dunvil Properties LLC <dvilchis@casasarko.com.mx>; Harry Stephenson <hcseyemd@aol.com>; Kevin Murphy
<kevin.p.murphy@comcast.net>; Lee G. Schulman <veinsonlinel@yahoo.com>; Lyn Batcheller
<batch.joe@gmail.com>; Manuel Orvananos <maneorva@prodigy.net.mx>; Marc Lippitt Mr. Scott Shwayder
<mlippitt@unjgueprop.com>; Michael S. Barish <mbarish@cambiar.com>; Philip L. Bernstein
< pbernstein@jacobstern.com>
Subject: Fwd: Golf Course Renovations
Please see the below email from one of the homeowners at the Vail Golfcourse Townhomes.
----------Forwarded message ---------
From: Alyne Kaplan <awk3569@gmaiLcom>
Date: Fri, Oct 19,2012 at 4:15 PM
Subject: Golf Course Renovations
To: Malia Cox Nobrega <malia@crossroadsvail.com>
Malia
Would you please forward the following letter to the appropriate parties. I think some of the facts contained in this letter
may not have been addressed in the decision making process regarding the Golf Course Renovations.
Thank you
I am the owner of Unit 55 at the Vail Golf Course Townhomes. My husband and I have owned our this home in Vail for
over 16 years and prior to that owned a condominium in Lionshead. Our property manager has been continually
presenting information from all sides on this issue (information from Vail Recreation District, the Town, neighboring
owners) and I wanted to take the time to express my opinions regarding the ongoing project plans at the Vail Golf Course
area.
First, I am thrilled that a long overdue face-lift and improvements are being implemented for the
clubhouse and outbuildings for the course. Everyone seems to agree that this is very much needed
so we are thankful for these efforts. I am also grateful that the Town and the Vail Recreation District
has changed its plans from trying to rezone to general use, this is a great relief. Thank you for
listening to these important concerns from the neighboring owners.
I disagree with the notion that this venue and location is similar to having a community venue like
Donovan Pavilion and Eagle-Vail Pavilion. Both Donovan and Eagle-Vail have open space around
them and had no structures or facilities located on the property when the neighboring homeowners
bought their homes in the vicinity of these venues. Additionally, there is a much more substantial
barrier between these venues and nearby owners compared to our situation at the Vail Golf Course
where things are quite dense in comparison. For example, Donovan Pavilion has huge areas of
grass lawns. parks etcetera and on the areas that are closest to adjacent private residences, Gore
Creek runs between homes and the venue along with mature trees. In Eagle-Vail the nearest
properties are Homestake Peak School (formerly Battle Mountain High School), the community golf
course, pool and tennis courts. No one lives even close to that venue in comparison.
Conversely, at the Vail Golf Course clubhouse area we are very close together in this area and the
land that you are working with is substantially smaller. I for one do not feel it was reasonable for
people that purchased here to anticipate that such a change was a likelihood. I don't know all the
specifics or if the position of the Sunburst owners is 100% accurate but it is my understanding that
there was good reason to feel protected by the deed restrictions in place on the parcel in question. It
also doesn't make good sense to me to add a venue to this area given the limited land for appropriate
facilities for parking. It is too close to neighboring residences that will likely be adversely
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impacted. Even now there are several times per year that we as neighbors in the area ignore illegal
parking along the road for people that are at the clubhouse or the golf course when it is beyond its
parking capacity. I am told that you are planning to have approximately 150 events per year at this
new venue in addition to what already takes place. The single entry road is a slow moving (15 mile
an hour zone that is already a challenge due to the fact that it is shared with the bike path. During the
summer there are numerous bikers, including many small children riding to the connecting bike path
through the golf course. Bringing more traffic to the situation seems undesirable on several levels.
just don't see how this can turn out well.
I believe many if not most of the owners that bought property in this area did so (and at a substantial
premium) for the proximity to the Vail core while at the same time having a true "neighborhood" that is
quiet and out of the "hustle and bustle" of the main Vail area. It feels a bit like the reasons for our
purchase are being jerked out from under us now. I cannot help but wonder if this will negatively
impact our property values over time. Yes we want a newer facility to replace the dated facility but we
had no idea that the price for that would be to change the character of the neighborhood at the same
time. I also wonder if this event venue is taken out of the equation if this lawsuit from the Sunburst
owners would also go away. As an avid golfer of the course I feel any changes to the 18th hole will
diminish its appeal. I am sure cheaper and less impacting alternatives could be explored to protect
from errant balls from the driving range, however, I have played there for many years and have not
found there to be an issue.
I ask you to consider if you would have pursued this position (given the neighbors concerns) if many
of these neighbors were entitled to vote in the elections process locally? Actually I don't remember
the proposal approving the transfer of the monies to be used for the improvement of the clubhouse
including any type of event venue. Maybe we as owners in this area, other than the Sunburst
owners, have not done an adequate job of letting you know how disturbing this is to the other
neighbors. If we had better expressed ourselves without relying upon our property manager then you
would understand how irnportant this is us as well. It may be wrong to feel as though we are being
treated like second class citizens as second homeowners, but I must admit these continued plans
have left me with pangs of feeling that this is what I never thought I was "just a second
homeowner." I have always felt like a part of this community in all these years of owning in Vail and I
want to keep those good feelings. I am hopeful that if we express ourselves more and you
understand how so many of us feel that this can get back on track and avoid the nightmare of drawn
out litigation. As you are certainly aware, litigation will not only undermine pocketbooks for everyone
including the Town, but will also undermine the community spirit in the process.
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen to my concerns. 'realize that it is not possible to
make everyone happy and that you have changed some things based upon expressed concerns, but
I do feel that the plan in its current form still seems to be negative for a great deal of people and not
just a few. I anxiously await the study on expected revenues from these changes in the report that I
have been told is forthcoming from the VRD and the Town. I have a hard time believing that the
revenue is going to be impressive enough to put everyone through this.
I feel very strongly that many other neighbors agree with my position so I am asking our property
manager to cc the other homeowners in the Vail Golf Course T own homes on this email to give them
an opportunity to if t add their position either in support of your plans or against them as I certainly
don't want to speak for everyone. I encourage them to "reply to all" with their opinions on the project
and if they support it then they deserve to be heard as well. If those owners wish to send their
opinions without everyone else seeing them then they can certainly send it directly
themselves. Please other owners, make your opinions known on something that is the biggest effect
on our neighborhood in the entire time that I have owned. Although Malia has done a great job at
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trying to convey how we feel to the Town, it impossible for her to fully express what only we can do
individually.
Sincerely,
Alyne Kaplan
Malia Cox Nobrega
Crossroads Realty Ltd
malia@crossroadsvail.com
www.searchvailmls.com
970-476-4300 office
970-977 -1041 cellular
970-479-9534 fax
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Bill Gibson
From: David Rhoades on behalf of CommDev
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 11:00 AM
To: Bill Gibson
Subject: FW: Fwd: Golf Course Renovations
From: Eric Balzer [mailto:Eric.Balzer@RAMTRON.com]
Sent: Monday, October 22,2012 10:49 AM
To: Michael Katz; malia@crossroadsvail.com; CommDev
Cc: flymex042752@aol.com; alexander.bracken@cusys.edu; scottmahaffyclan@gmail.com; emiranda@miranda.com.mx;
jtiampo@mba1987.hbs.edu; jose.lanzagorta@avemex.com.mx; aquevedo@notaria55.com; marvin.c.hein@gmall.com;
griffinger@gibbonslaw.com; wallygeiger@prodigy.net; awk3569@gmail.com; bminkow@mac.com; bobrule@hotmail.com;
bzug@harbourvest.com; Iynniebabe@earthlink.net; ahhso@aol.com; ERUSNAK@harrisassoc.com;
george@hallenbeck.com; morrisginsburg@mindspring.com; JLunney@wealthstratgroup.com; JMG412@aol.com;
DANDJHALL@aol.com; Lstalder@fsf-Iaw.com; jterhar@sthmotors.com; jgowen@lgi.com; ngriebling@comcast.net;
jecanseco@sbcglobal.net; gdunand@ferrioni.com; Ijb59@verizon.net; Iharvey@nexxuscapital.com;
manuel.girault@avemex.com.mx
Subject: RE: Fwd: Golf Course Renovations
We have owned Unit #25 for 8 years. We bought it because it was more of a neighborhood community and out of the
hustle and bustle of Vail proper. It certainly seems that, with 150 events, this will no longer be a somewhat quiet
neighborhood. Further, the summer brings a terrific number of bikers utilizing the access to the bike trail, and events
will likely raise the opportunity for a bike / car accident. This doesn't make sense, or continue the atmosphere that we
have on Sunburst Lane.
I agree with the emails below, please reconsider.
From: Michael Katz [mailto:mkatz@mkreg.comJ
Sent: Monday, October 22,20128:59 AM
To: malia@crossroadsvail.com; commdev@vailgov.com
Cc: flymex042752@aol.com; alexander.bracken@cusys.edu; scottmahaffyclan@gmail.com; emiranda@miranda.com.mx;
Eric Balzer; jtiampo@mba1987 .hbs.edu; jose.lanzagorta@avemex.com.mx; aguevedo@notaria55.com;
marvin.c.hein@gmail.com; griffinger@gibbonslaw.com; wallygeiger@prodigy.net; awk3569@gmail.com;
bminkow@mac.com; bobrule@hotmail.com; bzug@harbourvest.com; lynniebabe@earthlink.net; ahhso@aol.com;
ERUSNAK@harrisassoc.com; george@hallenbeck.com; morrisginsburg@mindspring.com;
JLunney@wealthstratgroup.com; JMG412@aol.com; DANDJHALL@aol.com; j stalder@fsf-law.com;
jterhar@sthmotors.com; jgowen@lgi.com; ngriebling@comcast.net; jecanseco@sbcglobal.net; gdunand@ferrioni.com;
Ijb59@verizon.net; Iharvey@nexxuscapital.com; manuel.girault@avemex.com.mx
Subject: Re: Fwd: Golf Course Renovations
Alyne.
Thank you for your very thoughtful and comprehensive analysis. Simply put we agree.
We have owned Unit #46 for nearly 20 years and are prepared to support any reasonable measure to best insure the
continued quality of life in our town home community.
Michael and Valerie Katz
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From: Malia Cox Nobrega [mailto:malia@crossroadsvaiLcom]
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 09:35 AM Central Standard Time
To: commdev@vailgov.com <commdev@vailgov.com>
Cc: Alberto Abed <flymex042752@aoLcom>; Alexander Bracken <alexander.bracken@cusys.edu>; Cynthia Scott
<scottmahaffyclan@gmaiLcom>j Enrique R Miranda Paz <emiranda@miranda.com.mx>; Eric Balzer
<eric.balzer@ramtron.com>; James F. Tiampo <jtiampo@mba1987.hbs.edu>; Jose Lanzagorta
<jose.lanzagorta@avemex.com.mx>; Juan M Garcia <aguevedo@notaria55.com>; Marvin Hein
<marvin.c.hein@gmail.com>; Michael Griffinger <griffinger@gibbonslaw.com>; Waldo F. Geiger
<wallygeiger@prodigy.net>; Abbey & Alyne Kaplan <awk3569@gmail.com>; Bernard Minkow <bminkow@mac.com>;
Bob Rule <bobrule@hotmail.com>; Brooks and Linda Zug <bzug@harbourvest.com>; Dave and Lynne Creager
<Iynniebabe@earthlink.net>; David Zinn <ahhso@aoLcom>; Earl J. Rusnak, Jr. <ERUSNAK@harrisassoc.com>; George
Hallenbeck <george@hallenbeck.com>; Helen &Morris Ginsburg <morrisginsburg@mindspring.com>; James &Elaine
Lunney <JLunney@wealthstratgroup.com>; Jean Gordon <JMG412@aoLcom>; Jean Hall <DANDJHALL@aol.com>; Jeff
&Adele Stalder <j stalder@fsf-Iaw.com>; John &Penny Terhar <jterhar@sthmotors.com>; John and Susan Gowen
<jgowen@lgi.com>; John L. Griebling <ngriebling@comcast.net>; Jorge Conseco <jecanseco@sbcglobal.net>; Jorge
Dunand <gdunand@ferrioni.com>; Leonard J. & Laura Berlik <ljb59@verizon.net>; Luis Harvey
<lharvey@nexxuscapitaLcom>; Manuel Girault <manuel.girault@avemex.com.mx>; Michael Katz; Peter M. & Helena M.
Leslie <hglnyc@aol.com>; Rebeca Jimenez-Campos <rebecajimguerra@yahoo.com>; Rene &Aurora Leon
<reneleon@erreele.com.mx>; Richard & Sandra Collier <dads4wood@hotmail.com>; Robert Trotta
<bob@resort.co.uk>; Robert W. Geyer <rwgeyer@sunsetautogroup.com>; Sergio J. and Sara Armella
<sergio armella@cyysa.com>; Spencer Swaim <sswalm@twgservices.com>; Steve & Brigid Wilkening
<BrigidWilkening@aol.com>; Susan Townsend <drsusantownsend@gmaiLcom>i Arlene Bobrow
<asbobrow@yahoo.com>; Bob and Liz Kivland <bilinreilly@yahoo.com>; Brian Barish <eabarish@gmail.com>; Curtis
and Kris Olson <curtis-olson@comcast.net>; Dennis Scioli <gemvest@yahoo.com>; Donald Ferlic <sf8888@aol.com>;
Dunvil Properties LLC <dvilchis@casasarko.com.mx>; Harry Stephenson <hcseyemd@aol.com>; Kevin Murphy
<kevin.p.murphy@comcast.net>; Lee G. Schulman <veinsonline1@yahoo.com>; Lyn Batcheller
<batch.joe@gmaiLcom>; Manuel Orvananos <maneorva@prodigy.net.mx>; Marc Lippitt Mr. Scott Shwayder
<mlippitt@unigueprop.com>; Michael S. Barish <mbarish@cambiar.com>i Philip L. Bernstein
<pbernstein@jacobstern.com>
Subject: Fwd: Golf Course Renovations
Please see the below email from one of the homeowners at the Vail Golfcourse Townhomes.
----------Forwarded message ---------
From: Alyne Kaplan <awk3569@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 19,2012 at 4: 15 PM
Subject: Golf Course Renovations
To: Malia Cox Nobrega <malia@crossroadsvail.com>
Malia
Would you please forward the following letter to the appropriate parties. I think some of the facts contained in this letter
may not have been addressed in the decision making process regarding the Golf Course Renovations.
Thank you
I am the owner of Unit 55 at the Vail Golf Course Townhomes. My husband and I have owned our this home in Vail for
over 16 years and prior to that owned a condominium in Lionshead. Our property manager has been continually
presenting information from all sides on this issue (information from Vail Recreation District, the Town, neighboring
owners) and I wanted to take the time to express my opinions regarding the ongoing project plans at the Vail Golf Course
area.
First, I am thrilled that a long overdue face-lift and improvements are being implemented for the
clubhouse and outbuildings for the course. Everyone seems to agree that this is very much needed
so we are thankful for these efforts. I am also grateful that the Town and the Vail Recreation District
2
has changed its plans from trying to rezone to general use, this is a great relief. Thank you for
listening to these important concerns from the neighboring owners.
I disagree with the notion that this venue and location is similar to having a community venue like
Donovan Pavilion and Eagle-Vail Pavilion. Both Donovan and Eagle-Vail have open space around
them and had no structures or facilities located on the property when the neighboring homeowners
bought their homes in the vicinity of these venues. Additionally, there is a much more substantial
barrier between these venues and nearby owners compared to our situation at the Vail Golf Course
where things are quite dense in comparison. For example, Donovan Pavilion has huge areas of
grass lawns, parks etcetera and on the areas that are closest to adjacent private residences, Gore
Creek runs between homes and the venue along with mature trees. In Eagle-Vail the nearest
properties are Homestake Peak School (formerly Battle Mountain High School), the community golf
course, pool and tennis courts. No one lives even close to that venue in comparison.
Conversely, at the Vail Golf Course clubhouse area we are very close together in this area and the
land that you are working with is substantially smaller. I for one do not feel it was reasonable for
people that purchased here to anticipate that such a change was a likelihood. I don't know all the
specifics or if the position of the Sunburst owners is 100% accurate but it is my understanding that
there was good reason to feel protected by the deed restrictions in place on the parcel in question. It
also doesn't make good sense to me to add a venue to this area given the limited land for appropriate
facilities for parking. It is too close to neighboring residences that will likely be adversely
impacted. Even now there are several times per year that we as neighbors in the area ignore illegal
parking along the road for people that are at the clubhouse or the golf course when it is beyond its
parking capacity. I am told that you are planning to have approximately 150 events per year at this
new venue in addition to what already takes place. The single entry road is a slow moving (15 mile
an hour zone that is already a challenge due to the fact that it is shared with the bike path. During the
summer there are numerous bikers, including many small children riding to the connecting bike path
through the golf course. Bringing more traffic to the situation seems undesirable on several levels. I
just don't see how this can turn out well.
I believe many if not most of the owners that bought property in this area did so (and at a substantial
premium) for the proximity to the Vail core while at the same time having a true "neighborhood" that is
quiet and out of the "hustle and bustle" of the main Vail area. It feels a bit like the reasons for our
purchase are being jerked out from under us now. I cannot help but wonder if this will negatively
impact our property values over time. Yes we want a newer facility to replace the dated facility but we
had no idea that the price for that would be to change the character of the neighborhood at the same
time. I also wonder if this event venue is taken out of the equation if this lawsuit from the Sunburst
owners would also go away. As an avid golfer of the course I feel any changes to the 18th hole will
diminish its appeal. I am sure cheaper and less impacting alternatives could be explored to protect
from errant balls from the driving range, however, I have played there for many years and have not
found there to be an issue.
I ask you to consider if you would have pursued this position (given the neighbors concerns) if many
of these neighbors were entitled to vote in the elections process locally? Actually I don't remember
the proposal approving the transfer of the monies to be used for the improvement of the clubhouse
including any type of event venue. Maybe we as owners in this area, other than the Sunburst
owners, have not done an adequate job of letting you know how disturbing this is to the other
neighbors. If we had better expressed ourselves without relying upon our property manager then you
would understand how important this is us as well. It may be wrong to feel as though we are being
treated like second class citizens as second homeowners, but I must admit these continued plans
have left me with pangs of feeling that this is what I never thought I was "just a second
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homeowner.II I have always felt like a part of this community in all these years of owning in Vail and I
want to keep those good feelings. I am hopeful that if we express ourselves more and you
understand how so many of us feel that this can get back on track and avoid the nightmare of drawn
out litigation. As you are certainly aware, litigation will not only undermine pocketbooks for everyone
including the Town, but will also undermine the community spirit in the process.
Thank you very much for taking the time to listen to my concerns. I realize that it is not possible to
make everyone happy and that you have changed some things based upon expressed concerns, but
I do feel that the plan in its current form still seems to be negative for a great deal of people and not
just a few. I anxiously await the study on expected revenues from these changes in the report that I
have been told is forthcoming from the VRD and the Town. I have a hard time believing that the
revenue is going to be impressive enough to put everyone through this.
I feel very strongly that many other neighbors agree with my position so I am asking our property
manager to cc the other homeowners in the Vail Golf Course Townhomes on this email to give them
an opportunity to if t add their position either in support of your plans or against them as I certainly
don't want to speak for everyone. I encourage them to "reply to all" with their opinions on the project
and if they support it then they deserve to be heard as well. If those owners wish to send their
opinions without everyone else seeing them then they can certainly send it directly
themselves. Please other owners, make your opinions known on something that is the biggest effect
on our neighborhood in the entire time that I have owned. Although Malia has done a great job at
trying to convey how we feel to the Town, it impossible for her to fully express what only we can do
individually.
Sincerely,
Alyne Kaplan
Malia Cox Nobrega
Crossroads Realty Ltd
malia@crossroadsvail.com
www.searchvailmls.com
970-476-4300 office
970-977-1041 cellular
970-479-9534 fax
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October 19, 2012
TOWN OF VAIL
.•. ...•
I request the PEC deny the Town's of Vail's request to amend the CUP. The current plan
to move the 18th green and to expand the clubhouse to an event center capacity should not
be allowed. The Town should develop the clubhouse within the existing footprint. The
Town has failed to engage the golf course neighborhood and others concerned to
effectively plan this project. I appreciate you consideration regarding these issues and the
impact your decision will have for years to come.
Respectfully,
P+J~
Mr. Rufino Vigil
Concerned Vail Golf Course Property Owner