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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-06-07 Support Documentation Town Council Work Sessionl~` VAIL TOWN COUNCIL WGRK SESSION TUESDAY, JUNE 7, 1988 2:00 p.m. RGENDR 1. Local Liquor Licensing Authority Board Interviews 2. Discussion with Chamber of Commerce and Vail Resort Association regarding Informaticn Booths and Special Events 3. Discussion concerning Chalkboards and Neon Signage 4. Site Visits to Up the Creek Restaurant in the Creekside Building, Lionshead Centre Mall and Vantage Point Condominiums 5. Discussion of Up the Creek Request to Lease Town of Uail Land for a Qining Deck 6. Discussion of Lionshead Centre Mall Improvements ;. Information Update 8. Other VAIL TOWN COUNCIL WORK SESSION TUESDAY, JUNE 7, 1988 2:00 p.m. EXPANDED AGENDA 2:00 1. Local Liquor Licensing Authority Board Interviews Pam Brandmeyer Action Requested of Council: Interview applicants at Work Session and appoint one member to the Board at the Evening Meeting. Background Rationale: Colin Gleason resigned because he now has a direct financial interest in the Gerald R. Ford Amphitheater (he is part-owner of the group awarded the concessions). So far, there are three applicants for the position: Lynn Fritzlen, Kevin Cassidy and Tim Savage. Applications will be accepted until Monday, 5/6, at 5:00 p.m. 2:20 2. Discussion with Chamber of Commerce and Vail Resort Association regarding Information Booths and Special Events Background Rationale: The Chamber Board and VRA Board have asked to meet with Council to discuss transferring the information booths and special events contract from URA to the Chamber. 3:00 3. Discussion concerning Chalkboards and Neon Signage Susan Scanlan Action Requested of Council: Community Development would like to request some further direction of Council on the proposed revisions to the sign code. Background Rationale: Several months ago the Council directed the staff to look into the issue of daily special boards or chalkboards which were being displayed by local restaurants and determine if they could be permitted under the existing code. Several questions have also been raised about the use of neon signs in different establishments and we have drafted some suggestions for dealing with this question. Staff Recommendation: The only staff recommendation in this matter would be that stated in the enclosed memo. 3:30 4. Site Visits to Up the Creek Restaurant in the Creekside Building, Lionshead Centre Mall and Vantage Point Condominiums Background Rationale: The Up the Creek Restaurant is requesting an expansion of their deck onto Town of Vail property. The Lionshead Centre Building is requesting to modify planters in the Lionshead Mall in connection with an expansion of their building. The Vantage Point Condominiums are requesting a sign height variance. 4:30 5. Discussion of Up the Creek Request to Lease Town of Vail Rick Pylman Land for a Dining Deck Action Requested of Council: Review "Up the Creek" proposal and approve/deny request to lease TOV land for an exterior dining deck. Background Rationale: The Up the Creek Restaurant has proposed a greenhouse expansion that includes a new deck located on TOU property. 4:45 6. Discussion of Lionshead Centre Mall Improvements Rick Pylman Action Requested of Council: Review proposed changes to Lionshead Mall as proposed by Lionshead Centre Condominium Association, and grant approval/denial to proceed to Planning Commission. Background Rationale: The Lionshead Centre Condominium Association is proposing a remodel and retail expansion to their building. The proposal, to be reviewed as an exterior alteration by the PEC, includes some changes to the Lionshead Mall. Staff Recommendation: Staff recommends approval. 5:00 7. Information Update 5:05 8. Other -2- \\ Q~rubed. 5~t~ •8~ ~~~e~,a+c, ~~~a~~~8 May 23, 1988 Town of Vail S. Frontage Road West Vail, CO 81657 Dear Town Council: I would like to take this opportunity to submit my application for the vacancy on the local Liquor Board. As some of you may recall, I served as a member of this board two years ago and lost my seat due to the de- annexation of West Vail, where I was residing at the time. In the interim, I had purchased a bar in town and thus could not reapply to the board until now, since I sold my business and no longer have an interest in a local liquor license. I feel I would be an asset to the board due to my previous position and my experience in owning and operating liquor establishments in Vail over the past ten years. I fully understand the responsibility one has to the com- munity when controlling a liquor license. I feel I would have an excellent working relationship with the current board members, some of whom I have worked with in the past.. I'm sure that Steve Simonett, Rob Ford, Collen McCarthy, or Pam Brandmeyer would provide excellent references upon request. In closing, I would like to say that I hope you will give me the opportunity to serve my community in away .which I feel I can be most effective. Thank you for your time and consideration. Respectfully, Tim Savage 1 lows of uai 75 south frontage road vail, Colorado 81657 (303) 476-7000 office of community development TO: Ron Phillips FROM: Community Development Department. DATE: May 25, 1988 SUBJECT: Sign Issues I. CHALKBOARDS Several months ago the staff was directed by Council to look into the issue of chalkboards being displayed by restaurants to advertise their daily specials. The general consensus of Council was that some provision should be made to allow the display of these boards. After some discussion of the topic the staff has developed the following suggestions: 1. Allow the display of chalkboards for restaurants only, not retailers. 2. Regulate the size of chalkboards so that there is .some degree of uniformity. In this case we would suggest a maximum allowable size of three square feet. 3. In keeping with the desire for a degree of uniformity we would also suggest that the type of board be limited to the traditional black or green chalkboard with natural borders as opposed to the white boards. 4. We feel that the location of the special boards should be limited and would suggest they be attached to/on the same plane as existing menu boxes or the facade of the establishment if no menu box exists. The idea of special boards for display by retail establishments was also given some consideration. It is felt that retail establishments have an added advantage over restaurants as they are able to use their windows effectively for the display of merchandise. One possible alternative is to allow retailers to display a special board and delete the existing provision which allows for the outdoor display of goods. In order to prevent this possibility from becoming another enforcement problem we feel it would have to be an all or nothing policy; that is, retailers wouldn't be able to choose which they prefer. II. NEON/3 FOOT RULE In an attempt to better deal with the issue of neon we would suggest the following definition of a sign as a revision to Section 16.04.240 of the Sign Code: "Sign" means a surface or space as permitted in this title, whether continuous or not, which is in clear view of the general public from any pedestrian or vehicular way, which attracts the attention, identifies a business or building, conveys a message to any person by means of letters, numbers, figures or other symbols, devices, or representations. We would also propose a change to Section 16.04.330 to read: "Window sign" means a sign affixed on the interior surface of a window fronting a public way, which sign shall not include the three square feet allowed for the display of the name of the business or organiza- tion (not to exceed 1.5 square feet), the display of hours of operation, credit card information, and similar general information items. This would remove the current three foot rule loophole being used to permit the placement of neon. Possible alternatives for dealing with the issue of neon would be: (1) Allow neon signs but require all signs to go to DRB for approval. (2) Prohibit neon signage in the Village and possibly in Lionshead due to the incompatibility of neon with the the basic ambience and character of the areas. (3) Interior signs shall be defined as a sign which is at least ten feet from the window surface. III. RECOMMENDED PROCESS FOR SIGN ISSUES (1) Schedule a worksession with the Council to determine the general policy and direction.. (2) Once the general policy has been established, contact the restaurant association and merchant groups for input regarding proposed changes. (3) Proceed as directed.