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1992-08-20 Support Documentation Town Council Special Session
BOOTH FALLS PAR 3 GOLF COURSE Discussion with the Vail Town Council and the Vail Recreation District Thursday, August 20, 1992 AGENDA 1. Meeting Overview -Peggy Osterfoss, Town of Vail Mayor. 2. Vail Recreation District Report: a. VRD Philosophy of the Proposed Par-3 Golf Course - Colleen McCarthy, VRD Board Member b. Financial Update/Overview -Rob Robinson, Director of the Vail Recreation District c. Review of the Golf Course Design -Dick Bailey, Golf Course Architect d. Review of the Starter House and Parking Design -Jim Morter, Architect e. Environmental Review -Ernie Bender, Vail Golf Course Superintendent 3. Public Input. PUBLIC NOTICE A JOINT PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE TOWN OF VAIL AND THE VAIL RECREATION DISTRICT REGARDING THE PAR 3 GOLF COURSE WILL BE HELD AT 7:00 P.M. ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 20, 1992, AT THE VAIL MUNICIPAL BUILDING. IN RESPONSE TO COMMUNITY RESIDENTS, VAIL TOWN COUNCIL IS SPONSORING THIS MEETING FOR FINAL INPUT REGARDING THIS PROJECT. THERE WILL BE A PRESENTATION ADDRESSING THE GOLF COURSE DESIGN, PARKING, CIRCULATION, AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS. ALL INTERESTED RESIDENTS ARE ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND. FOR MORE INFORMATION REGARDING THE PROJECT, CONTACT THE VAIL RECREATION DISTRICT AT 479-2279, OR THE TOWN OF VAIL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AT 479-2138. TOWN OF VAIL Pamela A. Brandmeyer Assistant to the Town Manager 6, TOWN OF VAIL _ Contact: Caroline Fisher 479-2115 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE August 11, 1992 NEWS BRIEFS FROM THE TOWN... _ i ' ;r Public Meeting to be Held Regarding Par 3 Golf Course The Town of ' Vail will hold a joint meeting to receive public input regarding the proposed Booth Creek Par 3 Golf Course. A presentation will be made which addresses the golf course design, parking, circulation, and environmental concerns. The meeting will be held at the Vail Municipal Building on Thursday, August 20 at 7:00 P.M. All interested residents are encouraged to attend. ' ' In response to community residents, the Council is sponsoring this additional meeting for final input. Both Council members and Vail ~ ~ ~ ' ' Recreation District Board members will be in attendance to hear comments a and discuss concerns. For more information regarding the project, contact r the Vai! Recreation District at 479-2279 or the Town of Vail Community Development Department at 479-2138. . u a ~Cc.' T RECEIVED AUG 1, 7 1992 ~~03 VAIL GOLF CLUB JOHN A. DOBSON ARENA 303-479-2260 321 East Lionshead Circle FORD TEAMS COMPLEX Vat, Coorado 81657 3o3-a79-z2n • 303-479-2294 ail cre lO MARKETING/SPECIAL EVENTS VAIL YOUTH SERVICES D I S T R I C T ~ 2279 395 East Lionshead Circle Vail, Colorado 81657 NATURE CENTER 3a~ 2292 292 West Meadow Drive • Vail, Colorado 81657 303-479-2291 303-479-2279 • FAX 3113-479-2197 DEAR BOOTH CREEK HOMEOWNER: August 14, 1992 The Vail Town Council has elected to hold yet another public input session regarding the proposed Booth Creek Par 3 Golf Course. This is a pivotal (and hopefully the last) meeting for you to attend to voice your support and/or concern regarding this golf course. The District has stated throughout the planning process that it will proceed with the project if the majority of the community supports it and conversely will abandon the course if that is the citizens desire. Please mark your calendars for Thursday, August ~ 20, 1992, 7:00 PM at the Town Council Chambers. Your input is requested and invaluable as to the final decision on this project. Thank you, ' C~mW~I Ken Wilson Hermann Stau Chairman,. VRD Board of Directors Vice-Chairman,VRD Board of Directors w\par3 PAUL 57ERNBERG. M.~D. 111 NORTH WAOASH AVENUE GHtGAGO. ILLINOIS 60A02 June 10, 1988 Town of Vail Council Members My Dear Sirs: I am a resident of Booth Creek. I am writing this letter in reference to the green space between North Frontage Road and Bald Mountain Road. I strongly advocate the purchase of this tract of land for park and - permanent green space. I should like for you to consider purchasing this tract with the real estate transfer tax and using it either for park or picnic area or perhaps a running tract - athletic workout area. I am rigorously opposed to this space being used for extra parking for the Town of Vail. Sincerely yours, Pau Sternberg, M. D. April 16, 1990 John ~ Lynn Gottlieb 3021 Booth Falls Rd. #5 Vail, CO 81657 ~ a `~`0~~ ~~ti~ Dear Dr. & Mrs. Gottlieb: We are writing to the homeowners of Filings 12 and 13 with respect to the proposed golf course which could be built between Bald Mountain Rd. and I-70. We feel that this is the best use for this property, and property values will be increased if the golf course is implemented. Other choices are: as is(swampy and full of burrs), a parking lot, and other uses that might not be desirable to a residential area. Please add your name to this list of those who are in support of the golf course, and mail this letter to either of us to be placed on record at The Town of Vail. Sincerely, Lee Hollis . 953 S. Frontage Rd. W. #302 Vail, CO 81657 B. Susan Rychel Box 732 Vail, CO 81658 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~~v . 0~ . a~ ~y~ fir' ~a~ c~ ./yr,~ ~ S~e ~ , ~v ~c. ~J ~o ~ e. ~rxJ V BURKE, WILSON & M~ILVAINE RICHARD R/. BURKE Northwestern Actium Ccncet }oM P. v~lwn Dvecc Dial Numbs Suite 3700 1l6i•1922 (312) 715-5005 500 west Madison sweet vm. B. i~n< Chicago, nGnois 60606 1!B&191I Telephone (312) 715-5000 Facsimile (312) 715-5155 Tel« 25-3786 April 24, 1990 • Mr. Lee Hollis 953 South Frontage Road West, #302 - Vail, Colorado 81657 Dear Lee: Thank you for your note to my wife and to me in regard to the plans for the proposed golf course which will be built between Bald Mountain Road and I-70. I think this would be an excellent addition to the community. As owners of the unit at 2985 Manns Ranch Road -east side, we have been concerned about the eyesore which presently is presented by this property and ~ a golf course would enhance the attractiveness and the real i estate values in the community. We wholeheartedly encourage the town of Vail to favorably consi the golf co~.irse develop- ; ment. / ~ ' / incerely~yours~ i Richard W. Burke ~ JUL 2'? i9,9Z - D.D.S. .D.D.S., M.S. .July 23, 1992 PRACTICE LIMITED TO ENDODONTICS _ Planning Commission - C...~.anity Development 75 S. Frontage Rd Vail, CO Dear Sir: My wife and I wish to express-our complete support for - the Golf Course project in the Bald Mountain Road area. Marilyn and I have had our home at 2550 Bald Mountain Road, East half, for eleven years. It is very exciting to see such a well developed plan. It is obvious that a great deal of thought and ingenuity has gone into this project and Marilyn and I appreciate all the time and effort-that has made this project come to reality! Vail is a great place to live, vacation and play! I hope that it will always continue to be a place of enjo rd lly Ron Wollard, D.D.S. RW/sb PLAZA PARKWAY BUILDING, SUITE 517 4620 NICHOLS PARKWAY KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI 64112 816561.9666 816.561.9667 ~ ~ August iss2 ~ u auG 14_t992 Tw,~,~ of Vail - Ca..~,~unity Development Dept. ?5 South Frontage Road Vail, CD 8.657 use RE: PI.~TS FOR PAR 3 40I,F COiJSSE, LOCA~~~ ON TRACT A, f VAII. ~ILLACE 13TH FILII~TG To whom it may cancers: We recently received the public notice regarding the above anatteY: As the ~wuers of the western half of the duplex at 2375 Bald Mot:ntain Road, we clearly have an interest in any proposals regarding this area We want you to beat+ rte.. that we strongly support well c~on.sidered plans for a golf coarse. We believe this development could enhance the quality of the neighborhood in a number of ways; - Considerate landscaping should reduce the ' ' ' 'ty and noise of 170. a - It should enhance the appearance of this tract of land and Neste a more pleasing fist view for visitors approaching Vail from. the East as z well as far local residents. - It will p~ ~ ~;de a readily accessible additional araeuity. - As a consequence, it should enhsnee the value of sw,L„anding properties. We appreciate the concerns of some neighbors regarding the poten#ial of the devel..~.~.ent to increase traffic, particularly at the I'',`„~~,tage Road Qad of Bald 1Vlountain Road. 'We ourselves were attracted to this area by its quiet, atmosphere, now uncommon in Vail and very mach worth preserving where ~ it p,: ~:ata. However, we believe that the pleas could readily incorporate provisions to limit this potential, perhaps by limiting access bay „ud the entrance to the golf course only to residents. ~•Y ~ V U L 'Y I~~L . PACrE ~ As the ,~~,r,,., tunities for fiirther development of Vx~. decrease, we trust that the Town Flamers wiIl ~ ~ ~ more, not less, thought to each new proposal for development. Any increase in ehort"term costs will be more than ~~~.,~.pensated for by the lorxg-term wins for the ~.~,.ymimitp. Stinrerely, r . Sylvia Jane Baadai~ g~p~~ - C i Ms. Peggy Osterfoss, Mayor August 15, 1992 Town of Vail 75 Frontage Road Vail, CO. 8165? Dear Ms. Osterfoss, and Council of TOV, • I have received notification that you are holding a public meeting on August 20th relative to the golf course and packing near Bald Mountain Road. We own a townhome at 2350 Bald Mt. Rd. (Unit #1), and have a • considerable interest in what is done with the subject property. We strongly support the Recreation District in favor of the proposed golf course. We think that it is an extremely compatible use for this residential area, and would be a fine addition to the valley. I would agree that "open spaces" are important, but I feel that there are ample open spaces surrounding our properites. I often a.m able to see mountain sheep within 200 yards of my townhome. The golfcourse will have virtually no effect on them. I am not sure how the parking will ultimately be addressed, but from an earlier meeting that we attended, it looked like considerable attention was given to aesthetics and general control. Certainly the question of parking control can be addressed either now, or when problems anise. If you don't want parking there in the winter, just don't plow it. I am sure that the TOV can handle this lot in an effective way. I also think that 30 spaces should be adequate. ~ I am from Minnesota, and will be unable to attend the subject meeting, but I wanted you to know that I wholeheartedly support this project. Just for the record; if you decide that this lot should be used for overflow free parking, I would not object to that. I can see that some of the more closely positioned properties would have a concern, but if properly screened, I don't see a real problem. Thank you for your concern in this matter, and also for your service to our comunity. Sincerely, f~ ~ d ' ' Mr . & •~rs,! K . C . Kaplan » 1150 ose St. Owato ,a, Mn. 55060 (5a7) 451-3736 (2350 Bald Mt. Townhome #1) NOEL -THE CHRISTMAS SHOP 183 Gore Creek Drive Vail, CO 81657 e e (303) 476-6544 - ~ ~ 9 9x~ , ~ Date To / ~w~ i V a.~ Subject . mac- / Q ® ~ ~j f/ c.c.s' / . , Z ~,,,Q~ - o_. 0 n _ _ ~ ; ~...,~~~,e.._~ _ . - MONARCH MARKING SYSTEMS, DAYTON, OHIO FORM NO. CM-F LS-5893 i~ y: ~ ~~~;gc,~ ~s~ 5s - 2~l'.. , ~ ~ "l~,~ ~ 7 ire . ~ zap Y~ lJ~ ~ G~~ i ~jw~cd, 8r ~ g~~r,~ • ' MICHAEL S . SYLVESTER I.L. PS 2730 BALD MOUNTAIN ROAD 00 VAIL, COLORADO 81657 August 17, 1992 Ms. Peggy Osterfoss, Mayor Town of Vail 75 S. Frontage Road Vail, CO 81657 Dear Ms. Osterfoss: My house will be the closest house to the proposed Golf Course. This letter is to inform you that I heartily support the building of this course. Thank you for your favorable approval. Yours very truly, ~f Michael S. Sylves MSS/slb xc r~ . ,e ?o y~ RECEIVED AUG ~ 81992 ..::::::::::::.~:x.::{r{.::::..:............::::.....:::.{.,:.v.:..w.::.::,...,,.:..,,.:::{.:wx....,.:,............ t.::~.{.::..::.:...:..:.~.i:.:,..:..::,r.,.:,:, ~..X ,~.:.in.:::::.v:f...ux~:::... 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MC•i::;'O'?i' ~:t4i.{+M1' ~~M1{ r+r I,r/.. G F r{ ? C ~v. y\ r \ r ~ fi ~.t ~T' rY ? {~f % t g~ ~'...~tt/ .4':p~t:~? A}a{`,t• n.':+r+`?b+~'.l:,'h J .:..v. ~r r..r .v,l,{4•.. WxYffM { :M - 0.\•ir>~ r• r } •iM1j~v i 't}~:4..:.... r; 0. .W O ~;q~\~ r :N": ; :.M1~: t ? H rSW tikt•':t 4\?~. t~\~ r f ~5l'' ~'t^rr}I?N it&~, k,~ r.,. ..'ir:'ixr.'•i• .'t~~i.`~.\~~k•~ N :kis.n.•., ~ .n. rr..~.,y~„;;((~~~ . •~tv.:'... .rt3 %/%N.ur.:M. t.. X4ll. % i4XHn. f~ F}. . A~.:`?•~ ' :M1'C•.\~{}t1. ? tM11\\\.i•.xJ......~ l.~i:. y~ RECEIVED ~ 9 199 August 19, 1992 r { Mayor Peggy Osterfoss Town of Vail Vail CO Dear Mayor Osterfoss: My husband and I had fully intended to be present at the August 20th public meeting to again support the proposed Par 3 golf course in Booth Creek. However, due to a change of plans, please accept this letter in support of this project. We have attended every public meeting that has been scheduled (I believe there have been 4) to give our support and approval of this recreational facility to be completed in our area. This proposal has been reviewed numerous times and the majority of property owners and Vail residents have been in favor of from the beginning. According to the proposed schedule of events, the course was to have begun construction this week. It is difficult to understand how, after all the public meetings and input, we are faced with yet another meeting to "make sure?~ this is what the majority of homeowners and residents of Vail want. Vail is a recreational area. This is not limited to skiing. There are numerous activities for everyone in the Vail area and golf happens to be one of the most ,popular. I for one find a regulation 18 hole golf course too much of a challenge for my ability and am anxiously looking forward to being able to play on a 3-par course. As far as the "natural grasses" are concerned, I feel this area is not much more than a weed patch that has numerous ditches, culverts and cuts running through it. The State of Colorado was allowed to dump rocks and dirt that was removed from Dowd Junction a couple of years ago with the intent of berming up the area to provide a buffer to the I-70 interchange for the Bald Mountain residents. To date, the rocks and dirt are there, but that's the extent of it. Alot of time, effort and money has gone into the proposed Par-3 golf course. The opposition has voiced their concerns. Now it is time to move forward with the plan as approved by the majority of all concerned. • Sincerely, Sonny aMary Ali e Caster 2510 Bald Mountain Road Vail, Colorado r- , RE~~-, ~ r~, ~ ~ 6 g X992 VAI~L RESIDENTS ONLY YES!! I AM IN FAUOR OF PROCEEDING WITH THE PROPOSED PAR 3 GOLF COURSE TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON BALD MOUNTAIN ROAD, AS DISCUS5ED IN SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THE TOWN OF VAIL. NAME ADDRESS PHONE # 2 . ~ ~ W a,r,~~-. 24~ ~ ~fN..; se, ~ 9 ~q - ~r 6 ~ v 3 . ~~is'~~~~~_ 3 3 ~t s/= ~ o ~r fc~ r ~ o~ w #2. 4 7 ~ ~-Y 6 v n ~ 5 . ..~C ~ ~ ~ 3 -s`o 1~u;~c~rn Kc~ ~7 ~ ~ ~ ri r 7 ~ 13. ~ ~ ,f/ ,~y C .S. ~,P7/~, ~P,11. G~7H' ~ ~"Q t , . ~ ~ U j~ ~ s /~d ~-s` ~~s 15. n r 17 . ~ _ ~i G~~~S/~~~r° 19 . GUk _ ~ ~ ~31.+~~,1~1~1. "Zr~' lrv" ~ ~ V ~X~ l1 7 23. ~ trL~1 tC~-C~i2f~~~ G' S 6 7S~ -37ps 25. ~,'~~C.~e s l~. 'q ~uS /o ~(p l ~ ~ `jr G~ ~ cy,"p.,~:1~5J o(' VAIL RESIDENTS ONLY YES!! I AM IN FAVOR OF PROCEEDING WITH THE PROPOSED PAR 3 GOLF COURSE TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON BALD MOUNTAIN ROAD, AS DISCUSSED IN SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS AT THE TOWN OF VAIL. NAME ~ ADDRESS - ~ PHONE # 1. /j~s / ~ ,(v.~~ _ :~f,,Y-~~ ~;~~-/fin. ~7~-~'/D.~ - 3 . oar Uvu ~ ~n s.~ mot' l (e ' ~ b J i 11. l'~r~ r ~ ~c7 ~ I / ~9'~/:~~ ~c~t.~.a ,~c~,P ~f 7/0 ` ~5~/9 ~ 1 . a~_/~.r.~'" ~~f' ~a;~ ~'~L~ri. /~.~w~~ 538 15 . ~2u:~~~,U ,x'10 S ~at~ e~,Z,v ~ ~ X7(0 - 9 a 9 16. r / Z 705 i~~ ~ Y7,6- 89Z C1 ~ r is. lt(o ~G~1,/,~D,~'/t~ 71a~ ~~L1~ X176- Z~~3 _ Gui~ .f 21. ti i ~ ~j ~7/ ~J ~Rc D J~~.p/ K;~ ~!!b ' n7~7 Jam' 24. 25. VAIL RESIDENTS ONLY i~ ~ AM IN FAVOR OF PROCEEDING WITH THE PROPOSED VERAL PUBLICOHEARINGSBAT YES.. I CONSTRUCTED ON BALD MOUNTAIN ROAD, AS DISCUSSED IN S THE TOWN OF VAIL. PHONE # NAME ADDRESS - ~~5~~~, j 5.Y b. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. - : 12. ~ • 13. 14. 15. 16. • 17. 18. 19. . 20. . . 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. BURKE OQNTAIN ACADEMY PO l;ox~78, East Burke, VT 05832 802-626-5607 FAX 802-626-3!84 - DA~r~ : t,h~ ` ~ ~1. TU: _ c. ~hQJ\4~vi! f4~~~~~ri•.. FAX:~~~`~~~' Z'\ "1 ~ ~ i' CO: _ I .Va.. 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MJBER, M.D. a?viD M. sTEiNw?us, M.D. August 19, 1992 Mr. Rob Robinson Executive Director Recreation District 292 West Meadow Drive Vail, CO 81657 Dear Mr. Robinson: I am writing to you with regards to the Booth Creek PAR 3 Golf Course located on tract A, Vail Village 13th filing. ~I am a property owner of 2825-A Bald Mountain Road which is the first duplex on Bald Mountain Road after turning off of the Frontage Road. My permanent home is in Kansas City, Missouri but myself and my family spend a considerable part of our summer in Vail at the Bald Mountain address. I have contacted your office expressing my concern with . respect to the entrance of the parking lot for the PAR 3 Golf Course. I am entirely in support of the PAR 3 Golf Course project but I do have concern with respect to the location of the entrance of the driveway to the parking lot. I am requesting that the entrance NOT be located directly across from my driveway entrance. By my own measurement, there is 210 feet between the stop sign on the Frontage road up to my drive way available for the parking lot entrance . As a property owner, I am not only concerned with the noise or general traffic annoyance of such a location, but I am particularly concerned because I have a four year-old child that enters and exits Bald Mountain road from our driveway on a regular basis . There is a flagged marker stick' directly across from my driveway marked "COM. PROP. #20) if this would help you identify my drivway on your current plans. I understand the current plans (from Suzanne in your office) do not include the relationship of the residential home sites to the parking lot and therefore, no information is available at this time. I am requesting that my concerns be expressed to your planner (Mike Molika) or to whomever is responsible for such final arrangements. 1 would appreciate hearing from you and/or receiving a copy of the current plans for the entrance to the parking lot of the PAR 3 Golf Course. I have been following with interest,' the ongoing discussions reported in the Vail Daily newspaper. I am very sensitive to the many issues you must consider but I sense that you are doing everything possible to cooperature with Page 2 Mr. Rob Robinson August 19, 1992 the property owners. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Sincerel yours, GMG/lls George M. Gura, Jr., .D., FACC $$-19--9^c WE7] i ~ i 9 SCHENKE I N Xe:t^4;(~~„~(~, p ~ ~ Sch~nkeir~i5h~a. ~~~an PL'BL1C: 1t~Lr1'I i(')1~ August 29, ~~z ~ECEIVEp AUG 1 9 t992 Ms. Peggy ~sterfoss Mayor ?own of Vail 75 S. Frontage Road Vail, CO $1657 Dear Ms. Qsterfoss: I understand that the Vail Town Council will be holding a meeting to review the concept and details of building a par three golf course in the Booth Creek area of Vail near my residence at 2585 W. Bald Moun#ain Road. My purpose in writit?g you is to let you know that I strongly endorse this idea far a number of reasons: ~ Golf ~s a major attraction for tourism to the Vail Valley. • The Valley's golf course capacity does not meet the demand of the marketplace. • A per three course, which takes Iess time to lay and is less expensive would be an excellent family amenity available tv all residents of Pail. • The landscaping and maintenanrr~ Qf a golf course would be a major visual enhancement to the area adjacent to my home, residents of Vail in general and people who might be traveling along I-7Q and Considering Vail as a place to spend some time during the summer. I also understand that some consideration is being given to making the 30 parking spaces at this par three rourse available for Winter skiers. As a part tune resident of Vail, I do not have a strong feeling about this subject. Ida understand the desire of many of the pex'xitanent residents of the Booth Creek area to not have people parking cars adjacent to their homes during the winter and feel chat shier parking may not be the best use of this property, given their Concerns and the fact that it would be extremely inconvenient for skiers to park there anyway. I would ap~areciate your taking my views on #his subject into account as you consider this matter. Sinter , Robert ein RAS:ds Memher Nord American Pul~l~r Kclations Nrnvcx'k with offices in piuui~ral L'.5.. C:tnyrlwn, Lun~pean a~ul Asi:ui eicir,~ 112517th Strcec, Suitt 14~ DcYiver Golorada $0202 • (303) 29Z-6655 • i"AX (303) 292.3569 LORD LATIGO LEATHERS ; } 286 Gore Creek Dr. VAII, COLORADO 81657 R~raP~"~~? , J 1~~2 (303) 476-1545 oATE Fax (3 3) 479-9392 ~ $~1p~92 TO I SU&IECT Town of Vail Community Development Department 75 South ~'ronta~ Rd. Vail, Colo. 81657 I am a merchant in Vail Villagesand live at 2510 Bald A".oun"cain Road. I am looking foreward to the development of the Par Three golf Course along Bald Mountain Rd which I think will a great addi~ion to the area and the Vail Valley as well. ~h for y itention.~ e~'ss~ 7 IGNED PLEASE REPLY ~ NO REPLY NECESSARY 40%Pre-Consumer Content i 10% Post-Consumer Content FORD eW~ RQF3BRT E. _ a~g5 BALD MoUNTA1N ROAb ; 9 VAIN,,, GOLO~tA1~Q Bt~g7 August 11,1992 Dear Booth Creek Area Homeowner, I am sure you are aware of the Qngoing discussions that have been held over the past year . with the Vail Recreation District pertaining to the building of a par 3 golf course on Tract `_=~t`'~; . A. In all three of the meetings held to date, the overwhelming majority of property ~ owners were, and remain, proponents of the course. ~ ~ ,r I have lived in the Booth Greek area since 1977, and am a strong pragonent of the course. ' I feel the Recreation District has established a terrific record for doing a quality job. . ==r Although we all would tike to see Tract A remain an open space, the reality of today dictates this as a remote possibility as #~e town grows. A golf course is, in my mind, the _ best use for the site. The minority opponents of the golf course have persuaded the Vail Town Council to hold yet another meeting to review the concept and details of building the par 3 golf course. This small but vocal minority is organizing a strong effort to defeat the installation of the course. It is very important chat you express your opinion about the course to the Vail Town Council. The meeting is scheduled for August 20th at 7:00 l?M in the Vail Council Chambers, Your attendance at this meeting would have the greatest impact. If you are unable to attend, writing a letter to Peggy ~sterfoss, our mayor, c/o the Town of Vail, 75 South Frontage Rd, Vail, GO 81657 would be the second best option. Parking associated with the use of the course is one of the mast important issues. The homeowners and Planning Commission have agreed to a maximum of 30 spaces welt landscaped and bermed. However, the homeowners have ascertained such parking should not be used when the golf course is not in use. It has come to my attention, that certain members of the Town Council wish to use this as free parking during the winter. This has been unacceptable to the homeowners to date. Flease express you opinion on this most important issue to the Council. I can't stress enough how important it is for you to get your opinions to the attention of the Town Council. . T appreciate your response and help, Cordiattlly ' L~~ Rob Ford xt?. L~~ ~ RECEIVED AllG 4 9 1992 ~xci rIODONTIC OF GRIEEIEY, PC. Certified by the American Board of Orthodontics i i 1 ' August 18, 1992 The Honourable Peggy Osterfoss oTown of Vail 75 South Frontage Road Vail, CO 81657 Dear Honourable Osterfoss: As a property owner in the Booth Creek/Bald Mountain I Area since December, 1978, I would like to express our support of the proposed Booth Creek Par 3 Golf Course. ~ We feel a golf course is the best use for Tract A and will greatly enhance the neighborhood as well as the town of Vail. ~ We also believe that regulating the parking during the ! winter could become a problem and therefore discourage use during this time. " Again, I would like to request that you give favorable ~ consideration to this worthy project. Sinc ely, Dr. Burdett R. Edgren, President Orthodontic Associates of Greeley, PC 3400 West 16 Street Greeley, CO 80631 2355 Bald Mountain Road Vail, CO 81657 BRE:pw ~...~.....v~,.n.n a vx~vtn W ( 3400 West 16th Street • Greeley, Colorado 80631 • 303/356-5900 X C ~ REC~I~l~D AUG 1 ~9 1992 226 Lamb Lane Golden, CO 80401 August 17, 1992 Mayor Peggy Osterfoss Town of Vail 75 South Frontage Rd.- Vail, CO 81657 RE: AUGUST 20TH MEETING IN VA IL COUNCIL CHAMBERS Dear Mayor, For your guidance in regard to the proposed golf course on Tract A, Booth Creek, I wish to register strong support for this as a best possible use of this land. Further, I am in agreement with non; use of the 30 space parking area in the off season. Sincerely, ~l~ Leon R. Thygesen West a 2565 Bald Mountain Road Own e•r . ~ . ~ RECElVE~ r~Sv 1 9 1992 August 19, 1992 _ s . . Mayor Peggy Osterfoss ~ c/o Town of Vail - 75 S. Frontage Road Vail, CO 81657 Mayor Osterfoss, As future residents of Vail :I forward an opinion on the Booth Falls Par 3 Golf Course. Upon the advise of my Brother In Law, G.B. Caster and his wife. who are Tong time residents of Vail also residing in Booth Falls, we purchased the property at 2375 Bald Mountain Road a year. and a half ago. I have followed with interest the progress of the proposed Golf Course and was pleased to hear the belt between our propert Y and the interstate would be developed soon. ' To my dismay I now find that a small special interest core group is holding the project up on environmental issues. t. • - Having been to Vail many times I am very aware of the property in question and I must say my wife and I are absolutely in , • support of the Golf Course as a positive addition to the ~ atmosphere and beauty of the valley. Please consid®r our opinion at the Council meeting on August ~ 20, 1992. 4• f fi Page Twv Mayor Psggy Osterfoss - Respectfully, 4,_' ~ ' ~ _ - Y~ - ~ ~ ~ '.aYe £j~• x °.-Neil and Kathy Hicks _ 2375 Bald Mountain Rvad ~ - Vai 1, CO - Currently residing at: - 24886 Jeranima Lane Lake Farest, CA 92630 _ NH:bjm ~ _ - ~ . - ~ . . - - - - . - - - k . - t , f ~ f S<M' ~1?• Y\~ _ 1 - ~ w 3 ± _ ~ ' h ~ Fp ~ ~ 7' - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - P.4 AU6 19 ' 9t 09 ~ 59AM CAL ,WEST , FOODSERVICE 71=35'?E33=t0 - - ~~-:G~ o ~t~~2 ~F~SS___ ~ . __.c~.ra,~.ne.~ . ~ - O , _ ~J _ _ . _ d JEhRY GREVE~1 BOX 3577.__.._.._ - _ _ . . _ _ 1'~ _ ~ _ - - _ to `f$ ~ ~ - - rn ~ ~ ri c ~ Jf E o Il IJ^ W k N i~ 1 ~ ~ ~ r 1 ~ = ~L1.~c-Gt-~- d ROBERT E. FORD 2765 BALD MOUNTAIN ROAD VAIL, COLORADO 81657 August 18, 1992 Peggy Osterfoss, Mayor Town of Vail 75 South Frontage Road Vail, CO 81657 Dear Peggy, I appreciate your taking the time the other evening to discuss with me the proposed par 3 golf course. For the record, I wish to put•my thoughts on the project into writing. As we discussed, I am a proponent of the course being built on Tract A, in Booth Creek. I feel this site is an excellent one for this type of golf course. To me, a major benefit of a golf course is the beautification and preservation of open space. Being a homeowner in the neighborhood, such beautification of open space is terrific by me. Tract A is close to the existing golf course and thus its operation is simplified and does not require extensive on site building. The Vail Recreation District has held many meetings over the past year pertaining to this golf course. These meetings were advertised extensively in the local news media and individual notices were distributed throughout the neighborhood. Anyone wishing to express their opinions were encouraged to attend. Attendance was mostly local homeowners. The Rec. board worked hard at these meetings to satisfy the concerns of the neighborhood and to poll the majority opinion. At the last two meeting, the large majority of those attending were proponents of the course. I feel the Recreation Board has done a terrific job of working with the homeowners to come up with a golf course design which is functional and beautifies the neighborhood. I welcome the general meeting called by the Council for tomorrow night to review yet { again the plans for the course. However, I am concerned that for the past week the ~ minority opponents have been soliciting individuals to their opinion by spreading false accusations about the course and the negative effects it may have on the area. I hope the meeting on the 20th will serve to clarify such issues and will allow the various concerned factions to express their opinions. Cor ' y, 1 ob Ford ~C~v~ao Y1t.ai,t. ~ • ~ y XC= ROBERT P I,AMMERTS 125 PARK AVENUE OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA August 17, 1992 The Honorable Peggy Osterfoss Town of Vail 75 South Frontage Road Vail, CO 81657 _ Re: Vail Recreation District Booth Creek Area Par 3 Golf Course Dear Major Osterfoss, I am a landowner owning lots 3 and 4, block 12, 12th filing, Booth Creek area and regret that I will not be able to attend the August scheduled meeting in the Vail Council chambers, regarding the par 3 golf course discussion. The purpose of this letter is to strongly support the golf course project and to request that the town council react favorably to the request of the golf course developers. Maintaining the area in its open natural condition will be a very large plus to the community as a whole and in keeping with the ecological surroundings. If the project is approved I would be opposed to using the parking vacility in conjuction therewith as an overflow or free parking area during the winter months when the golf course is not in use. ..Y I would appreciate you taking my thoughts into consideration in your deliberation in the golf course ~ project. Respectfully, w Robert P. Lammerts • .J _ • ~~U~,,ux-~+~ ao • 4 dJ X C 1414 CENTRAL AVENUE FORT DODGE, IOWA 50501 WILLIAM E. SABER, D.D.S., M.S. ORTHODONTIST OFFICE: 576.5171 BAKER BUILDING August 18, 1992 Town of Vail 75 South Frontage Road Vail,Colorado 81657 To the Town Council, I'm writing to positively support the Booth Falls Par 3 golf course located in Tract A, 13th Filing. We are property owners at 2335 Bald Mt. Road, #16 and are happy that the Town of Vail Recreation District is planning this beautiful addition to the Village. For years I have felt that that tract of property should be • improved as was the ~r~site side of the interstate was done in creating the golf course along Gore Creek. By creating a golf course, as you have planned, you will greatly improve Vail's front door entrance to the Valley and Village. I can imagine the beauty of the green in three seasons and also the joy of cross country skiing in the winter. You are to be c.h«~~nded for this project. I hope you will vote for swift a~,N~oval. Thank you, kindly, L%~2~a~i~~ yc~~~%~i`~c~ William E. and Paula J. Baber L/ ...-ti..._ ~ ~ p.p.S. r D.D.S., M.S. PFihCTICE LIMITED TO ENDODONTI(;$ August 20, 1992 Mr. Ken Wilson Chairman, Board of Directors Vail Reczeation District 292 kest Meadow Drive Vail, Colorado 81657 Dear Sirs, As homeowners in the Booth Creek area fox the last twelve years, my wife and I wholeheartedly support the construction of the new golf course. k'e are very excited to have the area cleaned up, landscaped and to create a beautiful addition to the city of Vail, k'e both feel the lack of thistles and weeds wil], greatly enhance the vista as visitors approach the Vail Valley from the east. It will enhance the overall image of our already beautiful town. In the last four years we have spent a great deal of money and time creating a beautiful landscape around our place and feel that getting rid of the dead trees, weeds, and debris from former contractors who have just pushed part of the mountain down the hill to build the homes on Bald Mountain Road wi3.1 only further our beautification project. Marilyn and I both support the effort of the Vail Recreation • Board and appreciate their time and effort. Projects of th3.s kind are never easy to complete, but we are"anxiously awaiting your success! Si~~ly~G' _"a~ 'jYl~.~ly'lt U/~a~c~ Ron and Marilyn Wollard RW/sb PLAZA PARKWAY BUILDING, SUITE 577 4620 NfGFtOL9 PARKWAY V June 24, 1992 Dear Mr. Robinson, Executive Director, Vail Recreation District: As a resident of East Vail I am greatly concerned about the proposed Par 3 golf course under consideration in the Booth Creek Land Tract just north of Interstate 70. I drive by this area at least two if not four or six times daily and enjoy that short stretch of natural green space and am opposed to ANY type of development to this area. Having recently driven round trip from Vail to Utah, Vail to New Mexico and Vail to Durango, Colorado on three separate occasions this spring, I was struck each time by the breathtaking vistas and natural beauty off many of our state's highways. Upon returning to Vail I couldn't help feeling bombarded by the over-development and over use of land in the narrow I-70 corridor. As hostess to one of the Vail Community Forum meetings this past March, I learned that the overwhelming concern of all present was how to maintain the quality of life we all came to Vail to enjoy. Unanimously we agreed the biggest threat to the quality of our life is to the fragile environment around us. The Booth Creek Land Tract is one of the few remaining areas of natural, uncultivated, undeveloped land on the Gore Valley floor, and should remain that way. Although a groomed golf course (complete with parking lot, starter building, concession area and rest rooms) may seem desirable to some I strongly believe the area should be left in it's natural state. I would further like to be assured that this land be permanently designated as natural green space and not feel compromised into supporting the par 3 course as preferable to future more invasive development. Why is it always a fight to keep our fragile landscape in tact? Why in a community where I feel certain it's residents put a high priority on natural beauty, do we need to develop every last piece of available land? How long will summer vacationers put up with the increasing development of our valley but simply pass us by for the more serene areas of our beautiful state? When is enough enough and we finally adopt a policy of leaving the few natural areas left, well enough alone? Res~pec)tfully, ~J ~ Judith B. 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' ~ ~Le~tt~ ~ ~ Va.~..Q ..wti. -e S ~ e r?ti b-cti _.,,4,, , ..ri o ~S'q-g „~o R~C'D AUf 141992 ELER, ~R• HENRY G• KE M'RS• BpX 1604 . ~ p,p• 81658 ~ ` .~~s~ vplL, C4LaRA~p J _ ~ ~ ~b~~ . , n • ,t1r, ~ '1n?a'y b cam. C„ovitSQ t~w• d' e .~,oS ewe so ~ . C . 7 01392 /~~l992 ~ /API ~qq2 tr u, an ca1~ WhaM i~ V'nuu~ C ~5 ~ , ~ ~ ~~o~~oG ~ ~ ~ q 'lA)~~ Q~,,n,, 0.J~.0~~ .u_ cx~- ~ ~ ~~r`~.g- cn per„ 3 ~~c~~ S ~ ~w,~-.. 5 ~~~fKd. d • d9.4~~-- RS U x c~ c~sur,..ue, ~ o c ~ ~ ~T ~ , A Skier's Tradition RE~+E~ Y ED AUG L' O t August 19, 1 ~ near Peggy osterfoss: This letter is in regards to the open space at Booth Falls. David and I da not feel that this precise open space should be destroyed in order to create a golf cowse. We watch people :living along our road searching for a serene place to walk and enjoy the,outdoors. Many of the Vail Summer visitors are rider and are unable to hike our mountain. Therefore, this would be an exceptional option for a retreat. Possibly. e could be bused out to the , property instead of having the space totally organized? Please,: consider ;designating this as an urcesticted area for walking paths, benches, sitting, thinking ~ Thank you for yore consideration. The orsuch Family Renie and David 263 E. Gore Creek Drive, Vail Colorado 81657 303/476-2294 Fax 303/476-4323 - Mrs. John A. Dobson _ . _ . 996 Ptarmigan Road Vail, Colorado 81657 - 8/20/92 Dear Peggy: Since I will not be able to get to the meeting on Thursday evening, I am writing this note to you and a few other council people whom I know. I feel strongly that the Par 3 golf course in - the Booth Creek area should not be a~,~,~ ~~ed. _ _ _ In my opinion reasons against it far outweigh - ~ - ~ reasons for it, even though I myself play golf and live on the Vail golf course, so I am not against golf generally. Sincerely, ~i~s M ' ~ Page 6 - Vall Daly Thursday, August 20, 1992 - s s . - . Golf meetin ter Transportation Plan . altea- - p - • Will adequate bus service', ' To the Editor: ° : safely accomodated, particu Although the possibility ofyaPar from the west? r : 3 Golf Course in-East Vail has been Should the "starter shack"~`~ rumored far years,. many thought it designed for year azound uses x. - was a dead issue when it finished For example, day care to the' win ~ , sP g Y - ~ . ~ " ~ next to last on a rin 1992 _ _ . - . priority list. • Should it be subsidized by the " - ~ Suddenly it has resurfaced as a Town of Vail through no, low or_ " done deal needing only the number delayed lease fees? ~ a - of parking spaces to be designated • Does the recreation district ham by planning commission, a review any liability for golf balls hiitinn by Design Review Board and a private property, residents, lease from the Vail Town Council. cars? - At the request of community Does . it contribute to the.: - members, a meeting for all interes- stability of the hillside where ted parties has been scheduled for fracture line formed during ti .4< Thursday, August 20 at 7 p.m. in mudslides several years ago?_~:: the Vail Town Council chambers. I • -.Will the Colorado Department- hope this meeting will be informs- Transportation allow a bean ~ _ five and not adversarial. I have be built in their right of way?^:~ heard many issues raised, but_ h • Is this area wide enough and~~ - have heazd no definitive answers. I long enough for a viable Par:; 3 hope the following issues,. among Did a respected company decline others, will be addressed clearly to enter a bid, and if so, why? and factually .answered and iesol- • What can we -learn from the ; ved if possible. - - Eagle-Vail Par 3 to help us malice • What is the best use for_ this the right decision? - ~ - land? " - • Environmental issues need to • What is allowed by zoning and identified and addressed. ' the covenants? : • How is the riparian restoration; • Is a Par 3 needed for our guests required in conjuntion with the ~ - , and orresidents? ` ' Black Lakes Dam being • Is it a financially responsible complished? , - ~ ~ decision? Would taxpayers prefer • How is their water source? `A ~w - ~ - - - that the limited dollars be spend well? - - ' on other activities? or year • Are chemicals and fertilizers pol ~ around activities? lutants? Do they reach our water ' " • Should the money be spent on supplies or Gore Creek? ~ the Vail Golf Course to keep it If this is the best use for the land competitive with all the new, "no and the best use of limited funds`- expenses spazed" courses? (tax dollars) then it needs to be;"' • Is it. designed to be another successful, ie: there must be a neeii_ summer activity, affordable golf and it must be done correctly. °I or. to catch the overflow from the have yet to see a project that has Y'- existing 18 hole course? not benefited from community niK ` • What are the safety issues relat- put particularly when the propery is ing to vehiculaz access and the owned by the community. additional traffic? Sincerely, Diana "Donovan;"Vail~" • Do the solutions negate the Mas- resident r ,3A