HomeMy WebLinkAbout1998-06-30 Support Documentation Town Council Special Session
Town Council Public Hearing
Agenda
June 30, 1998
1. Introduction Welcome Rob Ford, Mayor (10-15 min.)
Acknowledgment of what the community is saying
Dispelling of misunderstandings
Introduce facilitator or give ground rules for the evening
U. Overview of Common Ground Process Andy Knudtsen / Russ Forrest (is-ZO ndn.)
Council mandate /goal (elected on housing platform / survey results)
how process designed / why the format (Vail Commons/Vail Tomorrow)
how it evolved - community input / direction / themes
how final recommendation developed
III. Public opportunity to respond '
(Time limits / neighborhood representatives)
15 minute break
IV. Council Consideration of Common Ground Recommendation
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Memorandum
To: Town Council
From: Andy Knudtsen
Subject: Common Ground Recommendation
Date: 7une 25, 1998
On June 30, Council will review the Common Ground recommendation and consider it for
adoption. It includes a siting plan and a funding plan. The siting plan is made up of 13 housing
sites, four park sites, 130 acres of open space and 3 sites reserved for community facilities. The
funding plan is made up of five different sources. The plan has not changed from the information
presented in the June 11 memo and is currently on display in Council Chambers.
In preparation for the upcoming Council meeting, staff has included in this packet:
The Final Recommendation.
The agenda, reflecting the discussion with Council at the end of the June 23 work session.
Responses from the community since the publication of the final recommendation. Staff
has transcribed the comments from the response forms and has provided summaries of the
letters.
The comments made at the open house held June 25th.
We have scheduled a lunch meeting for June 30th, 12:30 pm, in Council Chambers, which will
provide an opportunity to review the process and the plan prior to the evening meeting. If you
have any questions, or would like to review the material in detail, please call staff as we would
enjoy the opportunity to sit down and review the recommendation.
A resolution for adoption refers to the siting matrix and funding synopsis, which summarizes the
total plan. This will be provided at Tuesday's lunch.
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~ Memorandum
To: Town Council
From: Andy Knudtsen
Subject: The Common Ground Recommended Altemative
Date: June 25, 1998
The packet for the final recommendation is similar to the memo written to Council June 11. The
text of the memo and the attachments have not changed. It includes:
1-- The Recommended Altemative, including a siting matrix and a funding synopsis.
2-- Stated assumptions used to create the Recommended Alternative.
3-- Background on each site, providing a detailed explanation of future potential.
4-- Summary of the funding analysis from the June workshops, with detailed notes
from participants as written on the flip chart pages (yellow packet).
5-- Summary of the siting analysis from the June workshops (pink packet).
6-- Compilation of the pros and cons for each of the five alternatives, which show the
themes of what participants liked and did not like (green packet).
7-- Talking points for Council members, as we move into the final phase of Common
Ground.
COMMON GROUND FINAL RECOMMENDATION
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Common Ground Siting Matrix
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First Phase Housing costs space coscs
1998-1999
Parks Portion of Lower Bench 3-4 acres $360,000
Portion of West Vail 3.5 acres $75,000
Open Space L. Ladner 7.5 acres $40,000
Booth Creek SVeam Tract 2 acres $0
Lionshead Stream Tract 3.5 acres $0
Potato Patch Open Space 15 acres $0
East Vail Water Tank 6.8 acres $0
$475,000
Housing Tract C sale east 50 beds $150,000
West Vail sale west 20 beds $100,000
Lionshead seasonal central 140 beds $0
Lower Bench seasonal west 250 - 480 beds $3,000,000
buy<Jowns 30 beds $440,000
490 - 720 beds
Acquisitions acquire Timber Ridge $75,000
acquire Hud Wirth $1,200,000
$4,965,000
Second Phase
2000 - 2002
Parks Tract A- West 4 acres $250,000
Portion of Middle Bench 1 acres $110,000
Open Space Tract A- Middie 5 acres $0
Kara Butell 46 acres $400,000
Upper Bench 30 acres $0
$760,000
Housing Tract A- East sale east 75 beds $0
Middie plus Dog Leg of upper sale west 60 beds $420,000
Hud Wirth sale west 100 beds $0
Timber Ridge seasonai west 160-700 beds $3,000,000
Buy Downs sale dispersed 30 beds $440,000
425 - 965 beds $3,860,000
Third Phase
2003 - 2006
Parks none $0
Open Space Snowberry 13.9 acres $135,000
$135,000
Housing Water Treatment sale east 20 beds $330,000
Mountain Bell sale central 70 beds $600,000
Intermountain sale west 15 beds $75,000
Old Town Shops seasonal central 60 beds $250,000
Buy Downs sale dispersed 30 beds $440,000
195 beds $1,695,000
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Final Recommendation Funding Synopsis
COMMON GROUND PREFFERED FUNDING PACKAGE
PHASE I 1998 - 1999
Use proceeds form the sale of two land exchange properties,$2.5 million (requires a Town Council
vote to use RETT funds, for uses other than parks and open space); proceeds from the sale of two town-owned sites on Willow Way and Beaver Dam Road, $2.2 million; plus $300,000 per year from
the Town of Vail housing fund (set aside from the capital budget). '
PHASE II 2002 - 2002
Use the first three of six annyal payments to the Town of approximately $500,000 generated from
refinancing the Town debt, plus use $500,000 per year from the retired golf course debt from the
Real Estate Trasnfer Tax (requires a Town Council vote to use RETT funds for uses other than
parks and open space) and $300,000 per year for the Town's housing fund (set aside from the capital
budget).
PHASE III 2003 - 2006
Use $500,000 per year from the retired golf course debt plus an additional portion from the Real_
Estate Transfer Tax (requires a Town Council vote to use RETT funds for uses other than parks and
open space), the balance of 3 annual payments to the Town of approximately S500,000 each from
refinancing the Town debt. $300,000 per year from the Totivn's housing fund (set aside from the
capital budget).
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Community Prioritizing of Funding Options
June 3 and 4, 1998 Workshops
Ranking Total points given
1 Land Exchange Funds 27
2 Refinance Town Debt 27.5
3 Sale of Town-Owned Land 27.5
4 Rett 28
5 Housing Fund 29
6 Partnership with Private Sector 29
7 Special District for Marketing 29.5
8 Employee Generation 34.5
9 Lodging Surcharge 40
10 Property Tax Increase 43.5
11 General Improvement Dist 44.5
12 Lift Tax 46
13 Business Improvement Dist 47
14 Head Tax 48
15 Capital Fund 49
16 Sales Tax Increase 54.5
17 Wa e Tax 57.5
Note that small groups ranked
alternatives, identifying the most
desirable with a"1" and the least
with a "3."
fund.ord
Order of funding options
June 3 and 4, 1998
1 Land Exchange Funds 27
2 Refinance Town Debt 27.5
3 Sale of Town-Owned Land 27.5
4 Rett 28
5 Housing Fund 29
6 Partnership with Private Sector 29
7 Special District for Marketing 29.5
8 Employee Generation 34.5
9 Logding Surcharge 40
10 Property Tax Increase 43.5
11 General Improvement Dist 44.5
12 Lift Tax 46
13 Business Improvement Dist 47
14 Head Tax 48
15 Capital Fund 49
16 Sales Tax Increase 54.5
17 Wa e Tax 57.5
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Below is the rationale staff used to evaluate the responses and develop the final siting proposal.
The purpose of listing it here is to clarify how decisions have been made and to articulate the
assumptions used to develop the plan. This will make up part of the presentation for the June 25
open house and will benefit from Council's additions/deletions/suggestions.
1. Include amenities in the development program to improve the neighborhood quality. In
three of the nine potential for-sale housing developments, parks will be developed in
conjunction with the housing. There may be potential for two another small park
development in conjunction with housing.
2. Match the acquisition of the open space parcels to the development of housing in each
part of Town.
3. Tackle more expensive projects earlier. Interest rates are low, the Town has one-time
sources of revenue in the immediate future, and acquisition costs only increase with time.
One-time funding sources received the greatest amount of community support. In future
years, cash flow from housing developments may cover costs for future, less expensive
housing projects.
4. Where possible, shift housing type from seasonal to for-sale. For example, the information
presented during the June workshops listed Mountain Bell and Hud Wirth as both seasonal
and for-sale, depending on the altemative. Response indicates that the community prefers
for-sale developments. This was further substantiated in the pros and cons done by each
table in analyzing the five alternatives.
5. Reduce density on the for-sale sites in response to community concerns, providing density
which is appropriate to the neighborhood context.
6. To the extent possible, include projects from eastern and western portions of Vail in each
phase. Based on the workshop results, most all parts of Vail will be affected.
7. To the extent possible, include a mix of seasonal and for sale projects in each phase.
8. To the extent possible, include buy-downs as they are a highly supported vehicle for
providing affordable housing.
9. There are four sites recommended by participants for seasonal use (Timber Ridge, Lower
Bench, Lionshead Structure, Old Town Shops). The community has suggested getting
the best "bang for the buck" by increasing densities on these specific sites (while
expressing concern about too much density on the for-sate sites).
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As staff reviewed the comments from the workshops, we believe some points need clarification to
the community:
A. For-sale housing will be deed restricted, requiring owner-occupancy. No absentee
landlords will be allowed. Additional restrictions require full-time employment at an Eagle
County business. Resale value is capped at a maximum of a 3% annual increase. Sales
prices will range from the $130's for a two bedroom to the $170's for a three bedroom.
Note that a change from employment in Eagle County to employment in the Town of Vail
has been suggested by Council in the recent past, and was suggested by several groups
during the workshops.
B. Seasonal housing will also be deed restricted, but will be rented. The current model for
this type of development is a 4 to 5 bedroom suite-style unit, made up of small bedrooms,
a kitchen, living area, and a couple of bathrooms in each unit.
C. The Town will not be a landlord.
D. An outside management company will run the rental projects. It is very important to the
community that the seasonal properties be tightly managed.
E. Standards for design and landscaping must be developed and enforced. Aesthetics are
key.
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it N in Staff Recommendation
Open Space
L. Ladner Acquire in Phase I
Kara Butell Acquire in Phase II
Snowbeny Acquire in Phase III
East Vail Water Tank Consider dedicating in Phase I
Lionshead Stream Tract Consider dedicating in Phase I
Pota.to Patch OS Consider dedicating in Phase I
Booth Creek Stream Tract Consider dedicating in Phase I
Tract A-- middle Consider dedicating in Phase II, in conjunction with the development of a park on the west end
and housing on the east end of Tract A
Upper Bench Consider developing and dedicating in Phase II
Parks
Tract A-- west Create pazk in Phase II, in conjunction with the development of housing on the east end of
Tract A.
Lower Bench (see below)
West Vail (see below)
Intermoutain (see below)
Community Facilities
Charter Bus Lot Reserve site for future analysis
Golf Course Club House Reserve site for future analysis
Area above Lionshead Structure Mentioned in April as location for community facilities. Not mentioned during June
workshops. Area rema.ins available, if community interest continues.
Lower Bench Identified by one group during June workshops as a location for community facilities. Because
most workshop participants supported a combination of seasonal housing and park uses on the
lower bench and did not cite community facilities, staff recommends dropping it from the list of
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sites reserved for future analysis for community facilities.
Please note that staff has added a column for the housing recommendation. This middle column identifies the number of tables
suggesting that housing, in one form or another, be located on a certain site. The siting analysis included in this packet (the pink
attachment) provides the full breakdown of recommendations for each parcel.
Site Name Num. of Staff Recommendation.
Tables
Recommending
Action
Timber Ridge 19 Move forward with acquisition. Workshop response clearly prefers this site. Requests call for
significant density, ranging from an additional 160 to 700 beds (see pink siting packet for
breakdown). Staff recommends moving forward with acquisition in Phase I, but delaying the
specific density determination to a time when a development team has been assembled. Ultimate
increase in density should be consistent with recommendations from workshops, ranging from 160
- 700 additional beds. Strong property management is critical.
Hud Wirth 16 Move forward with acquisition. Slated for develogment in Phase II, as acquisition time may delay
a construction start. Community response recommended for-sale units, rather than seasonal.
Lionshead Structure 16 Assemble development team and proceed with development. Given the Town's ownership of the
land and the strong economic return of the project, staff has identified this as a Phase I project.
72 parking spaces are to be created off-site. The off-site parking concept for the seasonal
projects did not generate a significant number of comments from workshop participants, pro or
con; however, there is a question in the community's mind whether it "works" as a concept. When
noted, most were concerned with the large number of parking spaced that would be located off-
site if all sites were developed with this concept. Staff recommends only two developments
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should be treated with this solution the Lionshead structure and Timber Ridge. The Lionshead
structure could serve as a good pilot effort.
Lower Bench 14 Assemble development team and proceed with development. Given Town ownership of the land
and strong community support, staff believes this is a top priority. To best reflect community
input, staff believes that the bench should be used for both park and housing and that parking
should be accommodated on-site within a structure. Although this is the most expensive
development concept requiring an infusion of capital not required under the other scenarios, it
allows for the greatest use of the site. See discussion below regarding the middle and upper
benches and the potential for connecting the recreational uses.
Mountain Bell 14 Staff recommends moving forward in Phase III, as that will allow for the comprehensive
development of the site. Current uses could be relocated, but not necessarily moved off-site, to
allow for more efficient alignment of roads and parking areas. Day care lease expires June 31,
2002.
Tract C 13 Move forward with development in Phase I. Vail Associates currently owns site. Potential exists
to partner with VA, or facilitate their development of the site as deed restricted, owner-occupied
housing.
Middle Bench 12 Develop in Phase II. There are two potential scenarios for this bench. The first would be to
develop ail of the middle bench as housing, made up of two and three bedroom townhouses
totaling 60 beds, leaving all of the upper bench as open space. The other scenario would be to
develop half of the upper bench as housing and half as a park, shifting 30 beds to the dogleg of
the upper bench. Both scenarios have community support. The first permits the designation of
the entire Upper Bench for open space. The second provides for a potential open space
corridor/pedestrian connection from the Lower Bench, with the purchase of a privately held lot in
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the vicinity. Either fits contextually, the latter is more expensive but an excellent amenity for the
neighborhood.
Intermountain 12 Although the neighborhood submitted a petition and many letters opposing the use of this parcel
for housing, the larger community, as expressed at the workshops, believes this site makes a good
for-sale development. Staff recommends development in Phase III. The reason it is not included
in Phase I or II is because staff attempted to balance each phase with sites from the east and
western portions of the community. There is an option of reducing density on this site, given the
amount of community input prior to the most recent workshops.
Water Treatment 10 Expensive site for for-sale housing due to high off-site road construction costs, but worth
including as it fulfills the goal of distributing units throughout the Town. Will provide a very
desirable location for locals to call home. Unanimous support from community. Phase III.
Tract A 9 Move forward with development in Phase U. Concurrently, develop park on west end and
consider dedicating middle portion as open space. Balances Phase II with developments in both
the eastern and western parts of Vail.
Upper Bench 8 While the feedback from the first set of workshops requested that the upper bench be reserved for
open space, the second set of workshops has revealed a different recommendation. Focusing
only on the "dog leg" (the narrow portion that extends down from the upper bench to Gore
Creek), eight groups recommended for-sale housing on this portion of the site. Staff believes that
a comprehensive development of the three benches of Donvon Park may bring about the highest
quality development. Specifically, staff believes that the each bench could be developed with a
housing and park component. The density originally proposed on the middle bench should be
divided among the middle and the "dog leg." At the same time, staff believes the balance of the
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middle bench could be developed as a park or left as open space. In addition, the privately held
parcel between the middle and the lower should be acquired for pedestrian access to Gore Creek,
with a pedestrian bridge installed allowing neighborhood residents easy access to the Lower
Bench and the bike path. With the comprehensive approach to the development of these sites,
staff believes the new parks, and connections to them, will appeal to the neighbors. Phase II.
Village Structure 7 This is the only parcel which staff believes should be deleted from the pool of potential sites.
Staffbelieves that the costs associated with the construction adjacent to the Village Structure and
the relatively long period of time required before generating a positive cash flow makes this
option less appealing. It did not receive the support from the community that the Lionshead
Structure did.
West Vail 7 Include in the overall effort, with construction in Phase I. Site provides an excellent opportunity
for both housing and a park. May be appropriate to reduce the number of bedrooms proposed in
response to community concerns about density. Staff debated placing Intermountain in Phase I
and shifting West Vail to Phase III, as the former received more support during the workshops.
However, stafFbelieves that the appropriate action (given that both received good support) is to
include them both while reducing density. Eliminating one may lead to eliminating the other, and
may raise questions by other neighborhood groups about eliminating more.
Old Town Shops 7 Include in Phase III. Good location for seasonal units. Developing site in latter phase allows
Town to verify that other uses for this site are not necessary (sewer plant expansion or a VA
maintenance expansion and snowcat access).
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SUMMAR
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Intermountain West Vail Hud Wirth Upper Bench Middle Bench Lower Bench Timber Ridge Shops
8 sale and open 10 seasonal and
12 sale 7 sale and park 2 seasonal space 12 sale park 1119 seasonal 6 seasonal
1 seasonal with
2 seasonaVsale mix community facility
4 park 7 park 7 sale 1 D open space 5 open space with park or gymnas6cs
1 open space 3 sale/seasonal ma 1 future 3 park 1 community fac.
3 sale/seasonaVfire
station/commercial 2 park and housing
1 acquire for housing
Lionshead
Structure Mountain Bell Viilage Structure Tract A-east Tract C Water Trtmt. Buy-downs VA Lionshead
16 seasonal 8 sale 7 seasonal 8 sale 13 sale 10 sale
1 sale with fire Most groups Most groups
station or comm. embraced as part of embraced as part
uses 1 salelseasonal mix 1 park/open space chosen alternative of chosen alt.
5 seasonal 1 park I
6 open space
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RECOMMENDATIONS
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144 sale 72 OS 4.3 acres
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park statian open space park sale 75
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open space
housing density open space
J3; Ntemative "C" sale 20 park 1.0 acre OS 36.1 acres OS 2,31 acres seasonal and 480;27 acre seasonal; off- 700 new 144 OS 4.3 acres
park; off-site park site pkg,
K3; Altemative sate 20 park 1.0 acre OS 2.31 acres seasonal and 480,2J acre seasonal; off- 700 new seasonal 144 OS 43 acres
park; ott-site park site pkg.
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L3: Altemative "D" park 1.3 acres patk 1.0 acre seasonal 107 Open space 36.1 acres sale 60 park 11.5 acres seasonal; off- 500 new seasonal 144 seasonal 200 seasonal 152 sale 75
site parking
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seasonal sVUCtured pkg. creek paNal scrape gymn.kommun, statlon;
B4; "C" amended sale 20 sale 107 Open space 36.1 acres Open space 2.31 acres sale seasonal; on• 700 new seasonal 144 sale 72 open space 43 acres
wiN add'tl for sale sita pkg.
C4; "D" amended park 1.3 acres park 1.0 acre sale 107 Opea space 36,1 acres sale 60 park 11.5 acres seasonal; ofF 500 new seasonal; oB-site 144 seasonal 200 seasonal 152 sale 75
with addYi tor sale site pkg. Pk9,
D4; "B" amended sale 2 sale 20 mix of 170-200 sale (east 30 sale 60 mix; salelLT seasonal 300 new seasonal 60 seasonal 144 sale 72 seasonal 60-80 W mix; sale/LT
sale and dog leg) and lease and reduce lease and
seasonal OS seasonal costs (?7) seasonal
E4; "B" amended sale 20 sale w/ less Man sale 107 sale mo(e than sale more than park 11.48 acres seasonal wf 162 new seasonal 60 saesonal 144 sale 72 seasonal 152 sale 75~
larger 30 30 60 paRial
, Park scrape;off-
site pkg.
F4; "C' with "A" sale 20 open 1.0 acre acquire fo open space 36,1 acres open space 2.31 acres seasonal with less than seasonal and 700 n inrenMry Iseasonal 144 sale 72 open space 4 3 acres
dispersal space hausing park; off-site 480 aff•site pkg.
a in
G4; "C" amended sale 20 sale and 30 sale or 107 or sale (east 30 sale 60 seasonal and 480, 2.7 seasonai; 700 new community seasonal 144
' wRh addTl for sale pai}c; fire seasonal; 300 dog leg) park, off-site acre park pkg, sWcture facili6es
station comm'lor parking
H4; "A" with more park 1.3 acres sale 30 sale 107 OS 36.1 ule 60 seasonal w/ 480; 2.7 seasonal w! 162 new seasonal 144 seasonal 200 seasonal 152 sale 79
buydowns p 50)
parking acre park parGal
structure urape;off-
site pkg.
COMMON GROUND WORKSHOPS 619/98
RECOMMENDATIONS •
UOIT
E. Yall Llonshea Patch Creek Course
Water Buy- VA Tract A• Water Tract A• Kara d Steam Open Stream Charter Club
Table # Tract C bed # Tttmt. bed# downs Lionshead west 0 acres Tank tl acres middle # acres Snawberry # acres 8uhll # acres L. Ladner #acres Tract ttacres Space aacres Tract Sacres Bus Lot House
A3; modH. "E' sale 24 sale 18 100 200 Park 4.0 acres Open 6.8 acres Open 5 D acres Open Space 13 9 acres OS 46,4 acres OS 7.5 acres OS 3.57 acres OS 14.96 OS 2.0 acres CF CF
B3 parklOS 200 parklOS parklOS
. Park 14.96
C3 sale 48 sale 18 100 Rrrp~
14.96
D3
14.96
E3; Table 6 sale 30 acres
14 96
F3 sale;town 24 sale 18 park or park or 14.96
home/low open
open
acres
G3; "C" with more sale 48 more than 200 OS 4.0 acres 14 96
sale units and buy 100
acres
H3; "B" modified sale 18 sale 100 100 200 park 4.0 acres OS 6.8 OS 5.0 acres OS 13.9 acres OS 46.4 acres OS 7.5 acres OS 3,57 acres OS 14.96 OS 2.0 acres CF CF
13 designate
apen
J3; Alternative "C" sale 48 100 200 OS OS OS OS 13.9 acres OS OS OS OS OS CF CF
K3; Alternative "C" sale 48 100 200 OS OS OS OS 13.9 acres OS OS OS OS OS CF - CF
L3; Alternative "D" 50 200 park 4,0 acres OS 6.8 acres OS 5.0 acres OS 13.9 acres OS 46.4 acres OS L7.5acres OS 3.57 acres OS 14.96 OS 2.0 acres CF CF
A4 sale ark
64; "C" amended sale 48 100 200 open 4.0 acres DS 6.8 acres OS 5.0 acres OS 13.9 acres OS 46.4 acres OS 7.5 OS 3.57 acres OS 14.96 OS 2 CF CF
wkh add'tl for safe
C4; "D" amended sale 18 50 200 park 4.0 acres OS 6.8 acres OS 5.0 acres OS 13.9 acres OS 46.4 acres OS 7.5 acres OS 3.57 acres OS 14,96 OS 2.0 acres CF CF
wit addPl for sale
D4; "8" amended sale 48 sale 18 100 INCREASE park 4.0 acres OS 6.8 acres OS 5,0 acres OS 13.9 acres OS 46.4 acres OS 7.5 acres OS 3.57 acres OS 14.96 OS 2.0 acres CF CF
200
acres
E4; "B" amended sale 48 sale 18 100 200 park 4.0 acres OS 6.8 acres OS 5.0 acres OS 13.9 acres OS 46.4 acres OS 7.5 acres OS 3,57 acres OS 14.96 OS 2.0 acres CF CF
F4; "C" with "A" sale 12 to 18 sale 18 100 200 open 4.0 acres 0-9 6.8 acres OS 5.0 acres OS 13.9 acres OS 46.4 acres OS 7.5 acres OS 3.57 acres OS Arrps
dis ers I 14 96 OS 2.0 acres CF CF soace G4; "C" amended sale 48 100 200 sale OS 6.8 acres apen 5.0 acres OS
with add l ior sale 13.9 acres OS 46.4 acres OS 7.5 acres OS 3.57 acres OS 14.96 OS 2,0 acres CF Cf
H4; "A" with more sale 18 > 50 200 park 4.0 acres OS 6.8 acres open 5.0 acres OS 13.9 acres OS 46.4 acres OS 7,5 acres OS 3.57 acres OS 14.96 OS 2.0 acres CF CF
bu -downs > 50
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COMMON GROUND - WORKSHOP COMMENTS 6i11/98
ALTERNATIVE "A"
Beneflts Risks
large # of seasonal beds most $
like house & park condo water treatment very expensive for small # beds
it's already ihere density on Lower Bench too high
doesn't block view corridors Don't like parking struciure on Lower Bench
increase Timber Ridge Close to stream for such high density - Lower Bench
parking good location seasonal parking
bus route, no snowplowing will remote parking woric?
accomplishes goal for # of units is parking restriction enforceable
master lease deed restriction regarding use if it's going to be housing & remain housing in futi
good ratio of seasonal lo "for sale" parking off-site
parking structure increase # of Timber Ridge units
better use of land for ponovan Park Mt. Bell density too high & too close
LH Housing convenient Timber Ridge "behavior"
hits TOV objectives off-site parking i.e. LH structure
reasonable densities loo seasonaily heavy
dispersed mix of housing specificatly Donovan Lower Bench way
parking available too much housing in one place
Timber Ridge demolition & redevelopment lighting pollution from lower ponovan parking structure
HUD & W.Vail easy access; convenience 1o shops no intermountairt housing (not "paying" fair share)
flat easy to build, similar neighborhood density need bridge across I-70
most efficient use of open space siie West Vail @ 30 beds; park loo small
most comprehensive balanced approach town should nol be in "for sale" business/seasonal housing fees up
keeping intermountain a paric parking more expensive
redevelop Timber Ridge why is town shop site not on this alternative
keep Intertnourriain a paric most expensive of all alternatives
support TOV cooperating wilh other entities improve pedestrian access
convenient site H U D & W. Vail views are too valuable for seasonal housing
redevelop Timber Ridge less park along trail
affordabie housing dispersed, not concentrated most expensive of all alternatives
Timber Ridge prime location for high density housing not enough buy-downs
Mt.. Bell site high priority for TOV owned TOV EE Housing long pian for Timber Ridge still in plan for future redevelopment
Upper Bench to be in land irust wetlands could be developed on East end to enhance park
Public transportation available restore wetlands
Lionshead structure incentives for seasonal housing oppose TOV's involvement in housing, except for their own employees
Lower Bench parks, TOV owned TOV employees most expensive of all alternatives
TOV should never lose $ on land sold or leased for housing No taxpayer subsidy for "for sale" units
We have govemmerri involvement parking struclure (covered) is not cost effective
Supplies a Iot of housing disbursed locations loss of only open space parcel wrin W. Vail #4
seasonal housing is needed - master leasing helps prevent
degradation of neighborhoods Middle Bench Donovan Park - not housing - parWplayground
open space acreage is one of lhe higher options Tract A violates covenants if units sold, protect under 1311
162 new beds in Timber Ridge Village Parking & LH structure would lose parking spaces (266)
dispersing employee throughout valley Village seasonal housing a negative
Timber Ridge should be redone more expensive
W. Vail provides necessary services for employees should be housing in Intermountain
good use of lower bench site - good bus access development of housing should be private
meets housing objeclives 60 is too many beds for Middle Bench
positive cash flow No housing on Tract A
all seasonal housing has bus access so lower park No housing in West Vail (Arosa) need open space/park in that neighborhood
LH structure deal looks good park only on Lower Bench
people are part of the community (for sale) Seasonal housing tends to get lrashed
dispersal TOV should not be in the housing business
maximizing density using least space other cilies do not provide housing
most bang for ihe buck 266 offsite parking spots
too much seasonal
Considerations: # of buy-downs is low
Is Town looking for reimbursement on Land does not consider such uses as fire station -
Additional density at Timber Ridge density is too high in Upper! Middle /Lower Bench sites
Are bed #s reasonable or realistic structured parking will be too expensive
winners/losers i.e.. Small business v large business seasonal units next lo day care center too dense
long-term variable cost most expensive of ali alternatives
town competition to "Iocals" high up front investment
COMMON GROUND - WORKSHOP COMMENTS 6i11/98
ALTERNATIVE "A"
Benefits Risks
no ComRlUnity Centefs seasonal beds • no affordabie housing opportunities; doesn'1 build sense oi communitl
need more tear-down sites meant to be open space, RETT used to purchase
need pedestrian bridge for Timber Ridge Tract A is wetlands (east)
Fundamental problem: VA does not address lheir own seasonal
housing issue. They are the largest employer and create ihe
seasonal housing issue & development no more lhan 2 stories for LH structure .
additional parks & addtional open space too high of density on many parcels in low density neighborhoods
distribution of housing high cost
good multi-purpose too many seasonal units
moderate seasonal housing increased lower ponovan bench would be overdeveloped
moderate for sale seasonai Vs year-round out of proporiion
moderate parks & open space site 4 was promised as a park
LH structure deal too much traffic around # 4 W. Vail
people are part of the community (for sale) East Vail does not offer grocery store
too many seasonal beds
most cash required
high cost of structured parking
not as many buy-downs
low on "for sale" beds
most expensive of all alternatives
no use of old town shops
off-site parking
seasonal $ increase
legal issue
too little open space & parks
buy-down not enough
off-site parking - where?
reacting to a crisis situation
tear-down to rebuild a waste of money
Donovan parktoo dense
park too smali
traffic concerns
object to "over" zoning residential properties
COMMON GROUND WORKSHOP COMMENTS 6/11/98
ALTERNATIVE "B"
Benetits Risks
more parking along 1raiUcreek don't wanUneed another Timber Ridge
"medium" priced / cost Too diverse pride oi ownership wfin community Uses too much open space
people purchasing Vs reming too spread out
concerrlrated density - stronger mgmt increase density of Timber Ridge
a sense o( balance w/existing deveiopment too many for•sale units
iow o(f-site parking
close to Town w/out disruplions ambiancs Town shop Site find site for gymnastics or community activilies
good spot tor housing West Vail traffic
more for-sale housing
great spot tor housing Hud Wirth too many unknowns
Community Center not considered
2nd least expensive too much "for-sale" housing
close to Town's objectives too expensive & not guarantee ihat it's for Iocais
can meel TOV objeclives if great density of VA sites restriction should be for Town of Vail not Eagle Co.
best seasonal 1o sale mix does not achieve housing goal
seasonal w/ for sale balanced upper bench'Yor sale" needs to be located on eastern pan handle
creates sense of place & community uses ail 3 Donovan Park benches (more than fair share)
high level of service Needs I-70 overpass for Timber Ridge
Donovan Park solution betier ihan "A" increase # of beds at Timber Ridge w/ suflicient parking
Best alternative tor mix ot "for sale" & seasonal much too liltle seasonal
need a balance none ot the altematives address "Irarsitional rental"
dislribution of housing is better Mt Bell should be high densily - good town access
tor sale housing provides core benefit - better care taken Lower ponovan has good bus accessibility - higher density should be
of units created
better density conirols Tracl A should be left open w/ a park
if town does not assist in creation of housing, it won't happen need to add more east Vail bus service
# of beds increase in Timber Ridge #4 west Vail should be open - too much iraffic
good mix of seasonal / sale siill too much neighborhood density
less density TOV needs to stay out o( housing business
100 buy-down units TOV should not be in housing business
145 + acres open space 266 offsite parking spaces needed
emphasize (or sale in tuture is open space protected
more for sale units not adequate
people are part of ihe community limiled seasonal
sense oi communily with for sale housing more buy down
emphasize for sale legal
lowest amount of seasonal beds Village & LH struclure too expensive
seasonal housing on existing property Old town shops doesn't provide tor sewer plam expansion
oniy 2 stories on LH siructure off-site parking
best for sale housing morigage interest rates may rise
2nd cheapest fewer beds
2nd best for off site risks on A
spread out no clumps of beds seasonal bed builds on Tracl A
increase community feeling use ot RETT funds
master lease is good seasonal housing on deeded open space
for sale housing, pride in ownership, builds communtly doesnt adequately supply seasona( housing
mouMain beil good location for "for sale" lower bench should be park
LH slructure good place tor seasonal housing west Vail should be park/open space (Arosa)
Eliminate housing on Upper & Middle Bench Trac1 A& C too much housing - needs lower densily
Housing on Lower Bench no you wartt to develop green space with tor sale houses, no way
Middle Bench should be park don'1 develop Tracl A east
remove park irom lower bench leave a park
upper bench should be open space develop as a park
affordable Fausing dispersed need green space along road
emphasize for sale, but not at expense of seasonal creaies leasl amourit of beds
matterhorn area needs a park too high density in low density residential neighborhoods
better balance between seasonal & for sale 100 low density on Timber Ridge
good buy down of existing beds legal issues on condemnation
lower densily
better ratio of seasonal employee to year-rourxi
Iqw cost
Consideralions:
Quality oi Life
Community Center, parks, Capital projects
COMMON GROUND WORKSHOP COMMENTS sit 1i98
ALTERNATIVE "C"
Benefits Risks
If Town doesn't assist in creation of localstemployee housing
won't happen TOV needs to stay out of housing business (4 people)
most open space too high density on low density neighborhoods
ratio of seasonai employees to year-round employees out of
high number of seasonal proportion
high open space Lower ponovan park would be overdeveloped
Timber Ridge exits parking locations
water treatment site too few parks
more open space is maintained legal
seasonal employees already publicly accepted environmental study
reduced traffic Town assuming responsibility if units don't lease/rent
increased density at Timber Ridge 6 story buildings on I-70 corridor
best one so far off•site parking
good cost increase bus service $ `
call is for seasonal housing may drain down-valley employees away
impact on open space & quality for people is least impacted limited 'for-sale" - not encouraging community
community center & golf course club house or charter bus lot #4 needs some park
keep open entrance to Intermountain not too dense because of sociai concerns
Ok to go very dense Timber Ridge VA should provide seasonal housing for its employees
more open space seasonal at Hud Wirth would be good
lower cost Use Mt bell for seasonal - 2 bus routes - post office - grocery
preserves Trad A& Upper ponovan park as open space too dense
allows for future development of cemetery much too seasonal
majority of seasonal housing is on existing property traffic problems
could be a good alternative plan minus line 8 too much seasonal housing
want only 2 stories on LH parking structure high density
creates most seasonal beds in existing location too much density
100 buy-down off-site parking
open space acreage not enough for sale housing
least cash required No view obstruction from new development at LH strudure
leaves Tract A east & water treatment alone/sensitive areas TOV should not be in housing business
most beds 585 off-site parking
Ieast expensive Hud Wirth, Mt Bell, Town Shop should be developed
leaving West Vail site as parWopen space Intermtn should not be developed
All of Tract A open space Tract C should not be developed
more open space no long-term rentals
LH structure good place for seasonal housing 1300 beds at Timber Ridge too much
cheapest alternative housing shouldn't be too dense - needs to be spread around
easiest for bus routes, infrastructure Hud Wirth should be used as housing
using fewer sites lower bench too dense (need bigger park)
Vail structure not used for housing, don't want tunnel effed Limited housing should go on Trad A
west Vail not used for housing not enough for sale housing
open space off-site parking
density good not enough parks
aliows more open space not spread out enough
future growth decreases sense of community
emphasis seasonal housing way too seasonal
renders most open space too few "for-sale' beds
located next to open space least parks
lowest cash requirement of all alternatives too much seasonal housing
low cost, high density high density at Timber Ridge_
Mt beil not used, would have minimal impact & close to
Timber Ridge good Village, should be used
low acreage not enough parks
higher populated density too much seasonal housing
lower bench proposal inexpensive cost of offsite parking
minimal impact on neighbors - height of building doesn't deal with Hud Wirth
most open space - similar amount of money no community center
maximize density of Timber Ridge - less impact higher density risks quality
fewest sites more affordable does not use Town shop site or Hud Wirth
seasonal ownership? parking off-site
maximizes open space Hud Wirth ?
benefit to improvingldeaning up Timber Ridge too low ratio "for sale" Vs seasonal
old Town Shops?
more opportunity for sale
higher populated density
too much seasonal housing
bad curbside appeal from I-70
parking
sale Vs seasonai lopsided, not balanced
more ownership
COMMON GROUND WORKSHOP COMMENTS sii 1/s8
ALTERNATIVE "D"
Benefits Risks
saves lower bench of Dortovan park builds on Tract A
500 beds at Timber Ridge highest ratio of seasonal to sale beds
maximizes parks 17.8 acres 2 stories only on LH
more parks & open space TOV should not be in the housing business
nothing in neighborhoods 541 off-site parking spaces
If TOV does not assist in creation of EE housing, it will
not happen low on "for sale" units
high seasonal only 50 buy-down
parks more cash required
biggest bang for buck seasonal housing brings crime, drugs, violence, iraffic problems
. LH parking good place for seasonal housing, no more than
2 stories Hud Wirlh too dense
Tract A appropriate density put some housing on Lower Bencfi Donovan Park
Fixing up Timber Ridge TOV needs to stay out of housing business (4 people)
Provides for a lot of parks leave Tract A open too tight & blind corner for traffic
dces use Timber Ridge too much seasonal
high density with Hud Wirth TOV stay out of real estate & lending business
most park space low "for sale" housing
largest amount dedicated to parks legal
good use of Timber Ridge dependent on Timber Ridge
Intermountain IeN as park environmental study
good for parks costly
good for seasonal too many beds at Timber Ridge
increased park space Tract A has too many beds
least amount of change or disruption No housing on Lower Bench
seasonal employees do not use Lower Bench or Tract A
additional open space most cash required
fewer sites are impacted too high density in low density neighborhoods
parks higher ratio of seasonal empioyees to year-round out of proportion
emphasis on parks legal issues on condemnation usage
concentrated for mgmt purposes Tract A development
positive landscape appeal from highway off-site parking
work weil with off-site parking expensive
balance "for-sale" & seasonal not enough "for-sale"
we like our parks not good use of lower bench
best density use of Timber Ridge off-site parking
why less open space
highest cost redo Timber Ridge
not enough "for-sale"
lower bench of Donovan should be mufti-use, e.g. pavilion
housing
Hud Wirth should not be seasonal
too few "for sale"
need more "for-sale" units
provides least amount of open space
parks need not be so emphasized
less parks, but larger is better
2nd most expensive
too much seasonai
open space lower
seasonal oniy housing
1 st impression of seasonal housing /rowdy atmosphere
balance between "for-sale" & seasonal to encourage bng-term
community consistency
enough parking
way too seasonal
density too high for Timber Ridge & Lower ponovan Park
needs I-70 overpass
little "fair share" distribution
expensive park expenditure
too many beds-Timber Ridge ghetto
need better density
little / no "for-sale" housing
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COMMON GROUND - WORKSHOP COMMENTS 6/11/98
ALTERNATIVE "E"
Benefits Risks
better rado of seasonal employees to year-round employees doesn't incfude Timber Ridge
low cost too high density in low density neighborhoods
Donovan (Lower) has better usage of land as park legal issues on condemnation usage
TOV doesn't assist in creation of employee/locals /housing doesn't utilize Timber Ridge
it wouldn't happen 2 stories only on Lionshead parking structure
buy-down 100 units TOV needs to stay out of housing business x 4
only 128 off-site parking sites too dense
strong "for-sale" units TOV should not be in housing business
low off-site parking not enough increase at Timber Ridge
good ratio of "for sale" & seasonal beds least open space
distribution of beds not using Timber Ridge
affordable (mid) What is "affordable housing". Please define.
mix sale housing & park less open space
keep open in intermountain density at Hud Wirth
dispersed, low density housing ignore Timber Ridge, lost 600 units
current units not disturbed at Timber Ridge low amount of open space
moderate amount for sale environmental study
same amount of housing on other site densiry too high for lower bench
density appropriate Tract A& C densiry too high for A& C
good blend of seasonal &"for sale" needs to be more beds at Timber Ridge
good balance o( seasonal &"for sale" not worth doing without Timber Ridge
good ratio of "for sale" & seasonal beds does not include Timber Ridge
low off-site parking stiil need an I-70 overpass
too seasonal
diminishes use of open space
doesn't udlize Timber Ridge
cheap fix isn't acceptable
deletion of Timber Ridge
units costs/more expensive
does not meet goal
Timber Ridge should not be eliminated
develops too many site and does not achieve goal
Hud Wirth too dense
Considerations:
protect wetland area & develop to enhance Park on West, Tract A
like seasonal at Old 7own Shop
develop 4 or 6 plexes more in character w/neighborhood
better as a rental location than a purchase location
develop, but not so dense
The written comments from the Open House are provided below. The first paragraph in each
section is a response to the question: What are the advantages to the community you see in this
site plan and funding package? The second paragraph deals with disadvantages.
None
Too much density! Vail will loose it's quality More and more locals will leave the area and our
guests won't want to come here. They (the guests) don't want to come to a"big city." Our property
Values will go down.
Karin Scheidegger
2436 Chamonix
For sale units will bring involved, caring people back to town. There are some sites that are
appropriate for for sale housing if densities are reduced to match existing g development.
With only a few exception the densities proposed are outrageous. They are not in confornuty with
neighboring development. The Town should not be involved with seasonal housing except for its own
employees. Since VA employs the majority of "employees" in the town, they should be paying for a
majority (if not all) of any seasonal housing. Another example of the Town paying VA's way.
A comment on the process: I was stunned by the number of participants who helped generate the info
that led to these proposals who live elsewhere.
Dick Cleveland
Arosa Drive
I believe some areas proposed for a housing site are inappropriate others are workable. Certainly the more
desirable and practical sites should be utilized first the land should not be sold but put into a land trust.
Will the Town of Vail ever get the message? Build studio or 1 bedrooms for employees! The proposals for
affordable housing should allow for flexibility as far as rental units built into year-round local homes go. I
could not believe that the Town is still proposing units with three and four bedrooms. Practically no
employee whether seasonal or year round wants to live with others. They want and need studios. I've been
saying this for over 25 years.
Alice Parsons
Edwards / Matterhorn
This is a very good start to a complex problem. Funding sources are a good balance for
"guaranteeing" the shortfall but private cash infusion should cure the negative. If businesses (and
Town) are not willing to put up a few thousand dollars per bed, do we really have a problem? Pre-sell
the developments. Avoid parking in structures at housing sites to reduce costs.
Very large projects (480 beds) should be avoided to reduce employee sums. Private sector financing,
ie their participation of businesses is essential. I believe a more creative and efficient redevelopment of
Timber Ridge is needed. More creative public/private fmancing alternative need to be examined even
COMMON GROUND COMMENTS FRONI OPEN HOUSE
PAGE 1 JUNE 25, 1998
under a 30 year master lease scenario. Make sure development phasing for the large sites are
examined so that we don't have a"white elephant" and can gracefully grow a site over time as need is
proven.
Stan Cope
200 Vail Rd.
None
Too much to be done in an eight year period. Not enough evidence showing people want this type of
housing. 71 units in Vail Commons. 75 people applied. Not overwhelming.
Emily Kloser
2466 Garinisch
Increased awareness of "community" in Vail, increase in number of places to "house" the community.
Please reconsider the Donovan Park upper Bench as a Park, increase the "fore sale" housing in the
middle bench and reduce the amount of high density in the lower bench. High density in large numbers
will eventualty lead to deterioration over time.
Nancy Sweeney
1905 Gore Creek
There are non where zone changes occur. Increased density is a mistake! See 1980 brochure "A
Program to Preserve" by Town of Vail.
5acrificing open space, parks is not an option. The quality of life will severely be diminished.
Chas Bernhardt
2695 S Frontage Rd/ Intermountain
Absolutely None.
The loss of open space impacts the quality of life for the guests and locals alike. Stop it! Taking public
land for development is WRONG! Look around parking, traffic etc. are out of control. There are
other alternatives and housing needs to be dealt with by the private sector. Don't take our public lands
for development. When all the tickets to a movie are sold out there are no more seats. If the town is
full, it's full! Stop all this over development and high density!! What are you planning to leave as
"open space" the center of the round-abouts?? As far as subsidized housing, we have worked here and
lived here over 20 years, No ONE subsidized our housing! Housing does not belong on Public Land!
We need open space!
Charmayne Bernhardt
2695 S. Frontage Rd.
I find it very positive to gain back a community by providing more housing for people that we need to
COMMON GROUND COMMENTS FROM OPEN HOLISE
PAGE 2 JUNE 25, 1998
make this community work. I think you have distributed housing green space, parks, evenly
throughout the valley.
Having a11ot of construction going on in the valley.
Sally Clair Good job.
777 Potato Patch
Blank
The Town should stay out of the housing business and give the people their open space land. When the
Rett was passed, it was over the rejection of the voters with the excuse that the Town could not survive
without open space.
John Phelps
1769 Alpine Dr.
After reviewing all the information, I really see none. It is a town not a city. The community goes from
east Vail to Gypsum. Let's work on the bus system.
Higher density, traffic, no place to have a pocket park in my neighborhood sector, better chance of
getting hit by a car, because no sidewalks, property devaluation, a community that has lost allot of open
space and community sense.
Paul Sands
2369 Chamonix Lane
Should help with affordable housing for seasonal employees.
Over developed high density housing projects. I know we need some housing but I think the proposed
numbers are way out of reason for the majority of the proposed areas.
Mike Kloser
2466 Garmisch
Low cost housing for seasonal and permanent residents.
The high density and loss of green space could negatively impact the community and the resort value.
People leave high density places and spend heavily to have a laid back atmosphere, not another city.
Paul Hymers
1459 Greenhill Ct.
Low cost for sale housing and seasonal housing.
I am concerned and opposed to the density of the areas proposed. This has a negative impact on the
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environment.
Carol Hymer
1459 Green hill Ct.
It is obvious more housing is needed, but not necessarily in the Town.
I feel the density for ponovan Middle Bench park is very high considering there are established
neighbars on a11 sides. Lower ponovan would be fine.
Barbaxa Mooney
1455 Greenhill Ct.
We do need employee housing, but section four in west Vail is too sma11 to accommodate both and
west Vail has already plenty of it. We deserve a safe park and playground for our children and
grandchildren.
Let's have a park and not more housing traffic will also be a problem because we already have dense
housing in area.
H. Brinkmann
2693 Cortina Lane
To keep Town employees in the Town
Bad faith to the taxpayers. All the open space being discussed was purchased from Rett funds which
was further designated "only" for the purchase off open space not employee housing buildings
TJ Conners
The real advantage is making TOV a place to live and work. It means less auto usage more parking for
tourists.
I don't see any disadvantages. On the contrary, this process and the direction has built community.
Bud O'Halloran
2418 Garmisch
I am opposed to the Town of Vail gov't using public lands and resources to fund housing for transients.
The changing of zoning is way to dense and inappropriate. The project impact neighborhoods by
increase of auto traffic, crime, drug traffic and nose from seasonal workers partying all house day and
night. The cirizens of Vail are putting a lot at risk to house these seasonal people. And I, as a 25 year
resident find this approach unacceptable.
Mike Reid
5037 Ute Lane
COMMON GROUND COMMENTS FROM OPEN HOUSE
PAGE 4 JUNE 25, 1998
The funding mechanisms suggested are good. I applaud the Town for moving forward with such a
comprehensive project.
Don't split the middle bench use all for housing, since parks will be on lower and upper benches; put
more seasonal housing in plan, but in lower densities if possible. Example: Donovan Park. Also,
Phase I seems too difficult to achieve in one year. Good Luck!
Robin Litt
You must act now or Vail Village is in serious trouble economically. We must so two fundamental
things: Get land const to about ten to 15% of building cots and get land lords to realistically reduce
rents for local businesses. Other wise, Vail will become a has-been within 10 years, thus lowering real
estate values overall and seriously endangering our world class resort appeal.
None. We must stop listening to people who say "we need affordable housing, but not in my
neighborhood." Do it now before it is too late.
Thersa H. Kirk
2388 Tahoe Dr.
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High density housing in a neighborhood that is already dense. I foresee too much vehicular traffic
driving over the speed limit, crowded buses (West Vail Red is already nightmare at Timber Ridge)
Affordable high density housing attracts seasonal workers (who usually don't have a long term
commitment to this community). It is a negative impact to all the year round long time locals who put
their heart and soul and handwork into a communty they love and support (esp. financially) and may
grow to despise if our space is prostituted. Where is Vail Associates in all this? They employ
thousands of workers. Why is the burden put on the Town? Why even talk Category III when VA
can't meet their employees needs now?
No Name.
It benefits people that own businesses by forcing long term ta payers to subsidize their need for
employee housing. It particularly benefits the big businesses like VA, the Marriott and the Hyatt.
It drastically changes the density in the neighborhoods where the current owners purchased their
properiy and paid for their open nearby open space via the Rett only to find latter that the current Town
Council is willing to re-neg. on the town's commitment and sell out to big business. They are trying to
do this without a vote, due process or the democratic process. It is a serious violation of public trust
and without a public vote, would be nothing short of stealing the land form the people that paid for the
open space. Even through those property owners paid for this open space, they would be the people
that would be forced to put up with the problems associated with high density, subsidized housing.
Jeb Jennings
1853 Lionsridge Loop
COMMON GROUND COMMENTS FROM OPEN HOUSE
PAGE 5 JUNE 25, 1998
Combination of sorely needed reasonably priced locals housing and facilities esp. Parks. Appears
funds are readily available.
NONE. Trade off of minute amount of ope space for such big gains in amenities and community well
worth it.
Anne Esson
Big Horn Road
I am not for rezoning any lots in the Town of Vail. Once all the vacant lots are built out we will have
max then we can handle with Traffic problems, etc. I am also against using Rett for anything else but
open space as it was originally designed.
Ernst Glatzle
2317 Garmisch
VA, merchants, restaurants, hotels get their employee housing paid for. We get to cover up all this
ugly undeveloped open space.
It's bullshit!
No name
I participated in the last workshop to give my consideration to the advantages of high density housing
on open space in the TOV
My strongest desire is to have the available open space remain open. I believe the TOV should not
participant in providing housing for private business like VA or even my employer. I do not want
increased vehicle traffic or high density living like a city-suburb.
Cynthia Burks
2958 S. Frontage Rd.
Just vote for it.
No name
The process is moving too fast. Many people including me were out of town on June 3 and 4. Tt needs
more exposure. We are over reacting to employee housing. We do not need 62% in the Town of Vail.
The process at the moment sounds like a rail road job. A council vote on June 30 is too soon. I give
you a11 credit for effort and intent, but it is misguided. Can you build more housing where it can be
hidden, like the new product north of the golf course. No land purchased with Rett funds should be
used for housing without a referendum vote. Incourate second home owners this specifically means
Donovan Park and Stephens Park. Rett funds should not be used for employee housing without a
referendum. I agree with the "9 points." The additional 130 acres of open space is mostly a con job.
COMMON GROUND COMMENTS FROM OPEN HOUSE
PAGE 6 JUNE 25, 1998
This land does not have development potential. Any net community cost of this housing should be in a
special taxing disfict with 80% being allowed to the commercial real estate which is the direct
beneficiary of this effort. Carefully consider the attached memo from Ginny Culp. It is very
Thoughtful.
Dave Cole
We are particularly supporrive of preservarion of open space. Open space is in short supply in Vail,
and should be preserved for everyone. The Kara Butell tract is ecologically unique due to its size and
the combination of riparian and montane environment. It houses a wide variety of wildlife, including
foxes, ermine, bears, and raptor. We strongly support acquisition of this tract for open space. We
support the employee housing aspects of the site plan.
Open space, such as the Kara Butell tract, should be preserved through the town charter, so that the
property cannot be sold or developed at a later time. Written regulations need to be developed to
protect this parcel once acquired, so that public use is limited below impact uses, ie access by foot
only, designed public access route, no campi or fire, etc. I noticed that, in the public comments, one
person stated that the Butell parcel isn't worth $400 K because it is in an avalanche zone. I believe that
portions of this tract are develop able, if access can be obtained, and that the parcel should therefore, be
protected as open space, in order to prevent future, and inevitable development. By the way, your
decision making process is great lots of opportunities for public input. Thanks!
Frances Hartough and Mike Browning
4229 Nugget Lane
After viewing the proposal, I see no advantages.
Up zoning. Taking open space. Using Rett funds for not designated uses.
Jovice Wilson
Provides some opportunity for people to live in Vail. No new taxes.
Site planning is insensirive to the natural environment. Appears to be driven by numbers of acres
needed. Funds requested axe far in excess of funds requested. The group of year round rental is not
addressed. This is a much more vital component to providing vitality to the community (people living
year round) than seasonal workers. Also an in between from seasonal to home owner. The 1990
census is actually at 58%. Employees living in Vail. There were 750 vacant apartments (not second
homeowners with 2.12 people per unit with 85% over 16 and 85% of these are employed. Assumption
of number of beds in for sale units over esrimates the supply generated. If a couple owns a three
bedroom townhome, likely not to rent out other two bedrooms. Not second home areas.
Greg Hall
2612 Cortina
None.
COMMON GROUND COMMENTS FROM OPEN HOUSE
PAGE 7 JUNE 25, 1998
We need to revitalize our community, but not at the expense of the current property owners in
destroying our environment and quality of life. This devalues our homes and property! It destroys the
sense of a mountain community. Those of us who have chosen to remain in Vail and not move down
valley have paid a high price for our homes. Weave pride for open space through our taxes and Rett.
The citizens of Town have not been the cause of lack of housing for employees. Vail Associates is the
cause in its neglect of employees. Vail Associates should pay the cost not taxpayers in any form.
Taking public open space for this use is a misuse of public trust and actual theft of public property
from the public. Deed restrictions keep locals from building needed equity in their property. It
deprives them of opportunity to build for their future. It seems that for all the public meetings. Dept of
Comm Development has not listened. We are the Town! We are the citizens. We have invested over
lives here. Vail Associates needs to be responsible and not steal from us citizens and taxpayers!
Gena Whitten
2625 Ba1d Mtn Rd.
Please save an area for a park in the donovan site for all the new families to use in the Matterhorn area.
That the Matterhorn area will be overcrowded. Where are all those cars going to park on the lower
donovan bench. There needs to be some dispursement of employee housing in either Intermountain or
West Vail
Kathryn, Jim Middleton
Only sites with no possible use for residential homes should be considered. Do not try to mix housing
already established neighborhoods.
More traffic, interrupting neighborhood quality and cohesiveness, lack of promised open space, do not
use RE'TT at a11 for funding anything but open space parks.
Pattv Nixar
Provides some opportunity for people to live in Vail. _
#24 Water Tank, this has to be open space, it is worthless as anything else. So why make a big deal by
identifying it as "open space." Mostly avalanche area.
#22 Same as above. _
923 Wetlands, this should be open space!
#21 OK, but isn't this covenant land?
#9 OK
#11 OK
#8 Totally Inappropriate. This should be parks. This was never intended to be anything but park i!!
#7 OK
#13 This is mostly wetland can't be anything but open space
Bill Wilto
COMMON GROUND CObIMENTS FROM OPEN HOUSE
PAGE 8 NNE 25, 1998
COMMON GROUND PROCESS 6l26/98
CITIZEN RESPONSES
ADVANTAGES DISADVANTAGES NAME
1. funding is great - no new taxes is always appealing. We will not be a community; we will have more 9 more dark Monica
windows (2nd homeowners); services will continue to deteriorate Benderly
(level of quality) due to lack of employees.
the primary advantage is that we will continue to be a premier
resort & a community. if we don't address these problems now,
we are not going to be #1 after 1999.
2. the funding is a good mixture of sources; deed restriction is if a unit is sold does the owner - occupancy & full-time employment Michael
essential. still exist? Staughton
3. In addition to the obvious merits of direct benefits (more compared to the advantages? none Rob LeVne
affordabie housing dedicated open space, etc.) If it is passed, it
indicates an enormous stride in government working in the
Town's overall best inerest, over the objections of a few.
4. what commounityt - none to the community town funding, raising density zoning in neighborhoods, lower Nevin Nelson
property values for existing property adjacent to proposed high
density low costs housing.
5. You present a large spread..... if lower bench houses 480 & $ will there be enough budgeted to maintain parks & open space.
Timber Too the density will be convenient for transportation 1 Af. housing should be attractive /well maintained, etc.
management enforcement of common ares.
DO not use small pocket parks for 10-20 homes, put density on Small parks for housing use Mt. Bell, Timber, HUD, large parcels. Sheila Sullivan,
larger parcels & leave smaller ones to parks Enforcements, transpoRation more effecient if dense, small parcels keep up the
important to the neighborhood good work &
hear from
evervone
6. see my letterto the TOV Council & staff dated 6/15/98 Funding plan does not utilize the scenario of selling parcels of Paul Rondeau
prime property at top dollar to developers & then using monies to
purchase sites for common ground housing within non-fair share
paying neighborhoods
No mention or targets of affordable housing though incentives for
properfy owners (see actions endorsed in August 1997, Vai!
Tommorow glossy). Suggest an aggressive goal be set, backed up
with a program to make it happen
7. Tract A east was given to TOV for public use, Tax dollars should not subsidize private ownership. Land is Ross Davis
reduced by density increases.
Hud Wirth should not be acquired - double density in exchange Lionshead - must be owned by TOV mot VA.
for dded restriction and let him build.
Timber Ridge - grant current owner a doubling of density in Landiocked parceis should not be purchased at premium pricer -
exchange for a 20 extension of deed restriction - make him build Kara Buetel in a single family lot with no legai access - not worth
pedestrian overpass - maximize 20°,6 of project under $400 K
construction in any given year.
forget cash buy-downs - use only as a trade out for small Tract C- TOV should reimburse owners for a pro rata share of
increases in density. Tax dollars should not subsidize private assessment made for rock control.
owner.
8. some for sale housing for locals. I'm not sold on any of the Fractioning of existing neighborhoods. Lumping parks to seasonal Farrow Hitt,
fund raising yet, housing instead of full-time residences. Abusing power with zoning 476-2911
upgrades
9. RETT is sacred; shouldn't be touched. You don't change the The number of units planned for the lower bench is way too much. Richard Stamp,
rules in the middle of the game. Keep pursuing the employee ThaYs like putting in a Timber Ridge; way too dense. 50 is more 949-4992
generation approach. I like it. acceptable, or something on the scale of the housing along Geneva
Drive. LeYs find a more reasonable number.
Consider phasing in the housing on each site. Maybe build 50,
for example, then see if there's room (and/or need) for more in
subsequent years.
COMMON GROUND PROCESS 6/26/98
CITIZEN RESPONSES
ADVANTAGES DISADVANTAGES NAME
10. It demonstrates real action on housing for employees. It would Some will gain neighbors on grounds they assumed (hoped?) would Micheal
be short-sited (again) to think that working in Vail is a priveledge remain undeveloped. Obviously, this (choosing sites) would have Wasmer, 479-
worth passing comparable (closer) jobs on one's way to work. been easier in 1975; however, we're working with our present 1741
reality. Do the right thing.
The level of service has noticeably declined and it wili get worse
before it gets better.
11. I see no advantages at all to this whole process. The Town of How dare you say "most all parts of Vail will be affected?" 250-480 Charlene
Vail has no business getting into the real estate business. The beds of seasonal housing on lower bench versus 50 beds for sale Marquez, 476-
special interest groups & VA have had their way with town on tract C- not fair!! Also what happened to Stephens Park units? 5766
councii/staff long enough
How about giving the rest of us your attention for a change? A couple of points: 10 acres of land are lost every hour to
development in Colorado. Developers choose to build new
structures on open space rather than adding to existing
developments, without, considering detrimentai impacts on
Coloradoan's.
Developing new land is not the only option to accommodate growth.
12. preserving open space; providing parks building employee housing (blight on the landscape) (not needed) Ron Mitchell
(How many dishwashers & lift operators showed up crying for
housing at the common ground meetings?) none that I saw
13. starts the process for solving the housing problem which is the not as aggressive as the business community needs but probably Kay Ferry
most critical issue facing the TOV today. as aggressive as the rest of the community will tolerate
14. the advantages are for-sale housing in the more established I do not think that any housing should be built in West Vail at the
neighborhoods and seasonal housing at Timber Ridge and in Arosa Drive. Garmisch Lane site. this not a"not in my
town, like at Lionshead. background" attitude as we will have 100 beds right down the street
The Arosa / Garmisch site should be lek as either open space or Tina Wilson,
developed into a park (our neighborhood has none), but please 476-3551
don't build there.
15. I think spreads of affordable housing throughout the community I think there is a rise that NIMBY's will feel threatened by seasonal Kathleen
bringing diversity to many neighborhoods. It also addresses the housing complexes, and strong assurance will need to be given Winfield, 479-
immediate problem of lack of seasonal housing in phase I about right management. Concerned about impact of traffic 6414
resulting from dense seasonal housing in small neighborhoods.
16. like employee housing plans, what are the two land excahnge don't like using open space funds RETTlfor other than buying more Andy Wiessner
parcels to be sold7 where are theyt open space, don't want to see any housing on site where (Tracts
A&C), par 3 golf course was defeated, should be open space
17. 1 feel the plan should encourage private business to provide or Loss of open space that is appropriate open space. Use of RETt' Joyce Wilson
build employee housing it is not the responsibility of the Town . funds for other purposes is negative. Up zoning estabhlished
neighborhood is a disadvantage.
COMMON GROUND PROCESS 6/26/98
CITIZEN RESPONSES
18. Donovan park, by your own surveys, was overvvhelmingly recommended to remain Farrow Hitt
open space. Lower Bench not compatible with ihe level of proposed housing. Park on
the middle bench is a good location. Local zoning should be honored. Conduct an
environmental impact study of the neighborhood, be sure to study wildlife. Matterhorn
is getting more than its fair share of the burden to handle the house crisis. We are not
opposed to housing in our neighborhood, we just donY want an unfair amount.
19. We strongly disagree with the proposed changes to the West Vail Area. We are very Hugh and Linda
disturbed by the idea of a huge 300 bed complex being built on a property zoned for Stott
primary/secondary. We have been employees since 1979 and 1987 and some how
have managed without low income housing.
20• We support the Town's efforts to create affordable housing and, in the April Common Guy Ayrault and
Ground Workshop, we supported placing affordable housing in our neighborhood Sally Jackle
(Matterhorn). The most galling aspect of this is that the Town tells us that other parks
(like Bighorn Park) which have the same zoning designation Donovan Park, cannot be
considered as affordable housing sites because they have been "improved." Thus,
instead of being compensated for the Town's past neglect, we are to be penalized for it.
Let us reiterate. We are not opposed to affordable housing. We are not opposed to
affordable housing in our neighborhood. We are opposed to the high density of the
housing proposed and we are opposed to the very high percentage of new affordable
housing units to be concentrated in Matterhorn.
21. My husband and I closed on a house on Matterhorn Circle in May. We have spent Margaret Bathgate
$710,000. What you will accomplish is hurting the property values of Matterhorn Circle
owners. It is also unfair that the TOV expects Matterhorn Circle to bear so much of the
burden. So what is the solution? There are certainly areas that are not in demand for
tourists such as near the highway, west Intermountain, near the pass in East Vail, and
Dowd Junction that would be convenient for locals. I would not object to the use of
Lower ponovan Park because there is only one house located at that corner and it is
not at the price level that would be impacted by such construction. I would also support
the Timber Ridge idea, the Lionshead parking structure and the Mountain Bell site.
Cluster homes or duplexes, (if you do move forward with the Middle bench) to maintain
the value and character of the neighborhood. As second homeowners, we are a part of
the equation, too. I think you should consider the effect you will have on any of the
neinF~hnrhnnrle tViaf vni ~ rnncifler hi ~ilrlinn thie Linfl nf hni icinn in
22• I am strongly opposed to a possible upzoning to high-density of the Hud Wirth property. Paul Sands
There is too much vehicular traffc on Chamonix Lane. About the Arosa and Garmisch
property is it fair to take the neighborhood's only open parcel of land and make that
into high-density as well? Put additional units at the Public Works area. Widen the
underpass, as that would be less expensive than some of the other options. Respect
the desires of the longtime and year-round locals, who love this town. It is not fair to go
high-density.
23 Through the Vail Tomorrow process and Common Ground, you have asked for our Gilda and Werner
' input and recommendations. We have fulfilled our part of the process and have Kaplan
indicated what the needs are. ?t is now your turn to either accept (with the usual
tweaking) or reject two years worth of work and expense. 100% of the population will
never be satisfied. It needs more evaluation and study they will say, and as a result of
no action being taken, we will have paralysis by analysis! We urge you to consider
what the negative voices are saying and what effect their actions will have in the years
ahead as we face stiffer and stiffer competition from down valley and other resorts
competing for the tourism dollars. Differences can be resolved, but if this opportunity is
passed over, it wiA be a set back of monumental proportions. The community has given
a mandate that housing issues shouid (and must) be addressed NOW, not at a later
date.
COMMON GROUND PROCESS 626/98
CITIZEN RESPONSES
24• We were profoundly disappointed by the Common Ground preferred Siting and Fundi Guy Ayrauft and
package that we recently received in the maii. We support the Town's goal of creating Sally Jackle
affordable housing and we support affordable housing in our neighborhood, but we feel
that the plan presented fails badly in spreading the impact throughout the community. At
best, under the current plan, Donovan Park would contain 19% of the new affordable
housing beds. At worst, Donovan Park would contain fully 41 % of all the proposed new
beds. No matter what numbers from the proposal you choose and no matter how you do
the calculation, the burden that this small corner of Vail is expected to bear is way out of
proportion to its size.
The argument that the majority favors this set op options (which may or may not be true
depending on the makeup of participants in the process) is not convincing. The majority
will almost always favor concentrating low income housing in one small area, because
the majority of people don't live there. Tyranny of the majority is common and well-
known, but that doesn't make it right, just or moral.
25. No advantage to Vail proper. We purchased premium properties at high prices and Mavis
high taxes for open, green space with less traffic and people to be away from the
growing, busy areas down valley which are much less expensive, more populated, etc.
In premium land per dollar price areas (Bel Air, Beverly Hills, Scottsdale, Cherry Hills,
Cherry Creek), they do not build affordable housing in their open spaces to
accommodate their workers! These workers live in the suburbs and bus/commufe in
daily. Tiber Ridge is a prime example how gross to look at and the land price is too
highly valued for those ugly buildings! Vail proper needs to stay pristine and empty, if
need be! Yes affordable housing is needed but not at the expense of property owners
who saved, worked, invested, etc, to get green lwhite open space, no traffic, safety for
children and dogs, no crime and peace/quite. I doubt that Boca Raton or the Hampton
or Martha's Vineyard has affordable housing between million dollar homes/condos on
prime real estate!
26. I am opposed to any and all employee housing. Kevin Oland
27. Reporting of community survey results are flawed. People want employers to solve the Ginny Culp
problem, as indicated on the employee generation question, and not necessarily the town.
Number-one ranked criteria for siting affordable housing (proximity to bus stops) is short-
sited. Residents have said "no" to seasonal housing through this process. Retain current
use of RETT funds, because of exhaustive list of open space and recreation needs.
Reimbursing the fund for open space used for housing does not "make it right." Some of
the 130 acres of "nevJ"open space mentioned in the plan were previously agreed to as a
result of the growth management plan with Vail Associates. You're really counting this
land twice. And, since most of this land is undevelopable (steep terrain, avalanche zones),
this is not an apples to apples comparison with the broad expanse of open space
proposed for housing (Donovan Park, Bald Mountain Road, etc.). Why aren't some of the
privately-owned parcels mentioned as housing sites, such as the land to the west of
Lionshead, the lot to the east of Vail Mountain School, etc. Why is the Village parking
structure exempt from seasonal employee housing when the Lionshead structure is being
used heavily in the plan? If you choose to disregard zoning and RETT lands, you are
more concerned about the people who are not here, than the people who are here. IPs no
wonder 43 percent of the survey respondents said the sense of community in TOV had
lessened even more in the past year! The $10.5 million funding plan doesnY represent
full disclosure in the "cost" of taxpayer land. Why would you be paying $400,000 for the
Butell property when the land is in an avalanche zone?
This plan gives away taxpayers land to subsidize the private sector's employee problems.
This plan requires no action by the private sector. The Town Council's "mandate for
housing "does not exist; it is not an appropriate role for the Town of Vail. Listen to what
the clear majority of letters and calis have told you.
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VAIL TOWN COUNCIL COMMUNICATIONS MESSAGES
COMMON GROUND PROCESS
Note: The following talking points may be helpfu/ to you over the next few weeks
as you field questions and get responses from people in the community about the
Common Ground process.
This has been an open and credible process with good community participation:
• Over 1,100 people responded to the community survey which
asked about siting and funding community uses.
• Over 200 people attended each of the April and the June workshops.
• Because of this levei of workshop participation, over 1,000 hours have
been spent on community discussions about where to site affordable housing,
open space, parks and community facilities and how to fund affordable
housing, and informed, thoughtful community recommendations have been
made. Also, workshop results were highliy consistent with the community survey
results.
We are hearing some recurring themes consistent through all steps in the Common
Ground process:
• Affordable housing was identified as a community problem by a significantly
higher number of people on this year's annual survey, and this concern has
been reflected in the workshop discussions.
• There is support for additional for-sale housing and for that type of housing to be
integrated into neighborhoods. Nine different sites have been consistently
mentioned as good parcels for for-sale housing.
• People at the workshops consistently indicated that seasonal housing should
be kept separate from established neighborhoods. They also said that
careful attention should be given to density and to management of the units.
Timber Ridge, the Lionshead parking structure and the )ower bench of Donovan
Park have been the most frequently mentioned sites for seasonal housing.
• Another recurring theme that we've heard throughout the process is that
people are concerned about the long-term protection of dedicated open
space.
• Three sites for additional parks have been repeatedly mentioned: a site in
West Vail near the intersection of Arosa Drive, Garmisch and Chamonix; a
portion of the lower bench of Donovan Park; and the west end of Tract A.
• From both the April and June workshops, people have mentioned the charter
bus lot, the Lionshead parking structure and expansion of the Golf Course
clubhouse as good places for community facilities.
• When it comes to funding affordable housing, people have made it clear that
they want the Town to use existing funding sources, but to use them
differently. They don't want to divert any funds from the capital
budget to pay for housing, but have consistently favored refinancing the Town
debt, using land exchange funds, selling TOV-owned parcels and using a
portion of RETT as the best ways to fund housing. There has been clear support
expressed for continuation of the housing fund, partnerships with the private
sector, using funds currently earmarked for marketing (if the election passes this
fall) and employee generation.
The Vail Town Council is committed to honoring the Common Ground process.
That means:
• Each Council member has personally participated in the process, and we've
heard first-hand what people have said about what's important to them and
why.
• We'll hold staff accountable for recommendations which reflect the expressed
public concerns, and we'll trust their recommendations.
• We won't allow anyone to bypass the process because that wouldn't be fair
to the people who put in the time and effort to participate.
• We won't have much sympathy for any "11 th hour" appeals that are made to
re-visit the recommendations which come out of this process; everyone has
had a fair opportunity to have their say and should not be allowed to delay. or
change decisions at the last minute.
• We will seriously consider any specific concerns brought to Council, whether
through petitions or other means, and we will do our best to accommodate those
concerns if there is a way to do so without changing the basic intent of the
direction we've been given through the Common Ground process.
• None of us, including Council members, may get our first choice when it
comes to the final plan that's adopted. The goal of the process has been
to try to reach a broad community consensus on what's best for the community,
and consensus usually requires compromise and give-and-take.
6-10-98
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PUBLIC NOTICE
VAIL TOWN COUNCIL MEETING
Tuesdav, June 30 1998
A lunch meeting to prepare for the Common Ground evening meeting will be held at 12:30 p.m. in
the Town Council Chambers.
Sign language interpretation available upon request with 24 hour notification. Please call 479-2332 voice or
479-2356 TDD for information.
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- APRIL 1998
4VA~IL VAIL BUSINES S
TOWN REVjEW
June 23, 1998
. The April Vail Business Review examines April sales tax collections and the 97/98 ski season
(November 1997 through April 1998). Overall April sales tax increased 23.1 % with Retail increasing 27.2%, Lodging increased 31.1
Food and Beverage increased 12.4% and Other (which includes items such as utilities, taxable services
i.e. plumbing and electrical and rentals or leases) increased 13.5%. The 97/98 ski season collections
resulted in a 3.7% increase overall with Retail increasing 5.0%, Lodging increased 2.5%, Food and
Beverage increased 2.5% and Other increased 5.7%.
April events included A Taste of Vail, Casino Vail, Warren Miller's Mad Mounta.in Marathon,
Jimmie Heuga's Toyota Snow Express Finals, The World Synchronized Ski Championships and Mogul
Mania in 1997 and 1998. Easter was in Aprii in 1998 and in March in 1997. Vail Mounta.in closed
Apri120, 1997 and re-opened for 4/25-4/27/97 as opposed to 5/3/98.
Please remember when reading the Vail Business Review that it is produced from sales tax
collections, as opposed to actual gross sales.
If you have any questions or comments please feel free to call me at (970) 479-2125 or Steve
Thompson at (970) 479-2116.
Sincerely, -
Sally Lorton
Sales Tax Administrator
I
APRIL SALES TAX ~
VAIL VILLAGE
APRIL APRIL APRIL
1997 1998 %
Collections Collections Chan e
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APRIL APRIL APRIL
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RETAIL SUMMARY
APRIL aPRIL aPRIL
1997 1998 %
COLLECTIONS COLLECTIONS CHANGE .
FOOD 71,699 94,339 31.6%
LIQUOR 13,366 15,694 17.4%
APPAREL 51,863 64,368 24.1 %
SPORT 135,068 189,047 40.0%
JEWELRY 12,466 16,804 34.8%
GIFT 12,555 14,625 16.4%
GALLERY 2,074 2,909 40.3%
OTHER 58,207 57,341 -1.5%
HOME 385 0 -100.0%
OCCUPATION
TOTAL 357,683 455,127 27.2%
97198 SKI SEASON SALES TAX ~
VAIL VILLAGE
96/97 97/98 97/98
SKISEASON SKISEASON %
Collections Coilections Chan e ~
Retail
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:
Lodging ' 1,79Z,07
77
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Beverage
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; 6,317 ' ~;2
Totai 398i1~1
L/ONSHEAD
96/97 97/98 97/98
SKI SEASON SKI SEASON %
Coliections Coilections Chan e
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~ 97198 SKI SEASON SALES TAX
CASCADE VILLAGE/EAST VA/L/SANDSTONE/WEST VA/L
96/97 97/98 97/98
SKI SEASON SKI SEASON %
Collections Coilections Chan e
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~f131~074
OUT OF TOWN
96/97 97/98 97/98
SKISEASON SKISEASON %
- Coliections Collections Chan e
.
.
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TOTAL
96/97 97/98 97/98
SKI SEASON SKI SEASON %
Coliections Collections Chan e
777777
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Total 0 65 2 5fl3
RETAIL S U M M A R Y
96/97 97/98 97/98
SKI SEASON SKI SEASON %
COLLECTIONS COLLECTIONS CHANGE
FOOD 599,681 733,146 22.3% - LIQUOR 131,612 143,930 9.4%
APPAREL 597,399 560,391 -6.2%
SPORT 1,622,693 1,656,702 2.1%
JEWELRY 156,843 176,050 12.2%
GIFT 155,134 154,821 -.2°/a GALLERY 25,009 39,255 57.0%
OTHER 526,858 545,352 3.5%
HOME 5,176 2,701 -47.8%
OCCUPATION
TOTAL 3,820,405 4,012,348 5.0%
s
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Town of Vail
75 South Frontage Road
Vail, Colorado 81657
Y0: TC
TO THE MAYOR and COUNCIL:
On June 30th you will have the opportunity of taking a bold step which will maintain the Town
of Vail's viability for remaining a community.
Through the Vail Tomorrow process and Common Ground, you have asked for our input and
recomendations. We have fulfilled our part of the process and have indicated what the needs
are. It is now your turn to either accept (with the usual tweaking) or reject two years worth of
work and expense.
Our future is in your hands, and if the Common Ground process does not come to fruition,
will the negative voices among us cheer wildly and say: " we told you nothing was going to
happen".
100% of the population will never be satisfied. Among those who participated in the process,
are some who feel you should vote not to move ahead on the housing and funding issues. It
needs more evaluation and study they will say, and as a result of no action being taken, we
will have paralysis by analysis! We are only two voices, but we encourage you to move ahead
and endorse the process. We won't go into all the reasons why we need housing and rentals,
you know them ad nauseatum.
As a Council you have made Government more open and approachable. You are now thrust
into the position of determining Vail's future as a community and a resort. We have no doubt
that being at the base of a great mountain we will maintain resort status. Your decision on June
30th will determine Vail's future status as a community. It may not be the perfect package, but
it is a message from a concerned public that we must move forward to develop affordable
housing and rental units.
We urge you to consider what the negative voices are saying and what effect their actions will
have in the years ahead as we face stiffer and stiffer competition from down valley and other
resorts competing for the tourism dollars. We then urge you to consider what the positive
voices are saying and in turn how this will affect our existence as a community and a resort.
As the deciding voices in the Vail Tomonow process, the choice is ultimately yours. If two
years' worth of our time, effort, and expenses go down the drain, it will be very disheartening
for those who participated.
Differences can be resolved, but if this opportunity is passed over, it will be a set back of
monumental proportions. The community has given a mandate that housing issues should (and
must) be addressed NOW, not at a later date. At this point in time to do nothing is far worse
than taking the risk that some mistakes will be made along the way! In our minds it is better to
do something and accept the risk.
Gilda and Werner Kaplan
G G~~ G
. Mouiitaiii . 998 Lift • a . , d Scliedule
Merohant
Wi ~~r Student,
Season Cobredo Aooess
Window Empbyees Passes card Pass Senior 65 Senior 70+
.
Single Ride $12 Free Free $10 $6 $6 Free
wl day $14 Free Free $12 $8 $8 Free
Single Ride $8 Free Free $6 $6 n/a n/a
All day $10 Free Free $8 $8 n/a n/a
. ;
Single Ride $20 Ne n/a $18 $13 $14 Free
AN daY $22 n/a n/a $20 $15 $16 Free
: . .
Single R1de $15 n/a n/a .$13 $13 n/a n/a
aI day $18 n/a n/a $16 $15 n/a n/a
. :
Season 1
~ UpgnOe $9 $9 $9 n/a $7 $7 Free
A/C Hike $130 n/a n/a n/a $20 $120 n/a
A/C Bike and Htke $180 n/a n/a n/a $45 $160 n/a
Passholder
. Bike Upgrade n/a $60 $75 n/a $25 $65 n/a
n ~ ~;4ttu.Ccx. ~ ~Gd
•
SUAINIER 118
EARLY SUMAIER WEEKEND LIFT SERVICE
Vail's Eagle Bahn gondola ? 10 00am-- 4:OOpm
Beaver Creek's Centennial Express Lift ? 9 30am - 400pm
Saturday May 23rd Saturday June 6th
Sunday May 24th Sunday June 7th
Memorial Day May 25th
Saturday June 13th
Saturday May 30th Sunday June 14th
Sunday May 31 "
Saturday June 20th
Sunday June 21
SUM [ER DAILY LIFT SERVICE
Friday, dune 2 through Labor Day (September 11")
VAIL's VISTA BAHN CHAIR 16 EAGLE BARN GONDOLA
I 0:00am - 4:00pm l 0:00am - 7:00pm, Mon - Tues
10:00am -11:OOpm, Wed- Sun
BEAVER CREEK'S CENTENNIAL EXPRESS CHAIR 6
9:30am - 4:00pm
LATE SUMMER WEEKEND LIFT SERVICE
Van's Eagle Balm gondola ? 10 00am - 6:00pm
Beaver Creek's Centennial Express Lift ? 9:30am - 4:00pm
Friday September 11th Friday September 25th
Saturday September 12th Saturday September 26th
Sunday September 13th Sunday September 27th
Friday September 18th
Saturday September 19th
Sunday September 20th
SUMMER LIFT SERVICE CLOSES SEPTEMBER 28T' , 1998
DATES AND HOURS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE. LIFTS MAY CLOSE DURING INCLEMENT WEATHER
FOR UP-TO-THE-MINUTE DETAms, CALL VAIL AT 970-476-9090 OR BEAVER CREEK AT 970-845-9090
x c - C~t~
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Event Summary
Vail Arts Festival
Beaver Creek Arts Festival
LOCatIOn Lionshead Vaii, Colorado
Beaver Creek Resort, Colorado
Dates July l i& 12, 1998 August 8& 9, 1998
Event History - -
The Vail Arts Festival, begun in 1983 has become one of the most popular summer events in the
Vail Valley. In 1987, The Vail Valley Arts Council was approached to brina an outdoor arts
event to Beaver Creek Resort to complete the summer experience in the Resort and the Beaver
Creek Arts Festival was begun. Both eveats have taken on national scope and a commitment to
quality since 1994, when Bill Charney, founder of the top ranked Cherry Creek Arts Festival
became a consultant. The Beaver Creek Arts Festival is ranked 65 in the Sunshine Artist
Top 2001ist of national outdoor arts fesdvals.
Attendance The Vail Arts Festival drew more than 20,000 visitors in 1997 and the Beaver Creek Ans Fescival
attendance has been steadily increasing, topping 15,000 for 1997. The audience for the events
reflect the diverse make ap of the Vail Valley. These afflueat residents, front range visitors and
resort vacation visitors aze educated, open-minded and ready to spend.
Participants Each festival hosts 100 artists, in attendance. About half attend only one festival, siving each
event a unique identiry. Artists aze actively recruited throu;h a major direct mail campaign as well
as call for entry advertising in media specific national publications. Artists aze selected throush a
highly competitive jury process. Applications come from throushout the United States and ~
Canada. The jury is composed of events professionats, museam'staff ana arcists. Natioaallv
acclaimed artists in attendance will include Hal Larsen, Kit Kazbler & Michael David.
Media Categories
Drawing/Pastel, Oil and Acrylic, Ceramics, Fiber, Watermedia, Glass, Photo=raphy, Jewelry,
- Sculpture, Printmaking, Wood, Metal, Mixed Media.
Schedule of Events
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Invitation only cocktail reception in Vail Valley residence
Artist registration and set np
Saturday
Festival Hours 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM
Music and family entertainment
Children's art activities 10:30 AM to 4:00 PM
Hospitality suite open
Awazds Banquet
Sunday
Festival Hours 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM
Music and fanuly entertainment
Children's art activities 10:30 AM to 4:00 PM
Hospitality suite open
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Vail, CO 81657
476-2956
June 24, 1998
Rob Ford
Mayor
Town of Vail
75 South Frontage Road
Vail, CO 81657
Deaz Mr. Ford:
We were profoundly disappointed by the Common Ground Preferred Siting and Funding Package that we
recently received in the mail. We support the Town's goal of creating affordable housing and we support
Iffordable housing in our neighborhood, but we feel that the plan presented fails badly in spreading the impact
t.firoughout the community. Specifically, the impact on the Matterhorn neighborhood is immense and
devastating.
If we exclude Timber Ridge from the calculation (because it is already a high-density housing site in a special
development district), the plan presented places from 33% to 47% of the new affordable housing beds in
Matterhorn's Donovan Pazk. Even if we include Timber Ridge in the calcularion the numbers are horrendous.
At best, under the current plan, Donovan Park would contain 19% of the new affordable housing beds. At
worst, Donovan Pazk would contain fully 41 % of all the proposed new beds. No matter what numbers from
the proposal you choose and no matter how you do the calculation, the burden that this small comer of Vail is
expected to beaz is way out of proportion to its size.
And this is a small corner of Vail. The affected part of the Matterhorn neighborhood (the part east of Alpine
Drive, excluding the only-occasionally-occupied Pazk Meadows and Eagle Point) cunently contains 46
structures (mostly single-family and primary-secondary houses) which, we esrimate, may contain as many as
270 beds. The plan presented would place at least 310 new beds in the neighborhood and at most 540 new
beds. That number of new units and new residents would totally overwhelm the neighborhood.
4 addition, we note that the proposed plan places all of the seasonal rental housing in a very sma11 part of the
tQwwn. All four sites proposed for seasonal rental housing lie along a line that is only about a mile long, running
from Lionshead to Donovan Pazk (in a town that is about nine miles long). The two major proposed sites
(Timber Ridge and Donovan Pazk) are only about a half mile apart. Seasonal rental housing is the most
onerous of any type of housing to place in a neighborhood, and such a high concentration in any part of town is
wifair.
The argument that the majority favors this set of options (which may or may not be true depending on the
makeup of participants in the process) is not convmcing. The majority will almost always favor concentrating
low income housing in one small azea, because the majority of people don't live there. Tyranny of the majority
is common and well-known, but that doesn't make it right, just or moral.
The Town feels a responsibility to provide affordable housing for its workers, and we agree that this is a worthy
goal. But the Town also has a responsibility not to destroy the character of neighborhoods where working
people already live, and not to devastate the property values of current homeowners. We ask that the Town
consider this when making its decisions on the siting of affordable housing.
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Russell Fonest and Andy Knudtsen, Community Development Department
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June 23, 1998
Dear Vail Town Council, _
Here are my comments regarding the "Preferred Siting and Funding Package".
Survey Results:
1. Your newspaper ad contains misleading information. When you say that 34% of
survey respondents said affordable housing was the number-one issue facing the
TOV, you go on to make the assumption that a1134% wanted the town to build/site
housing. In fact, you don't know if those comments favored the town's
involvment... or if they urged the town to stay out of the private sector. All you
know is 34% made a comment about housing.
2. You forget to say that 82 °Io of the respondents favored having employers pay for their
own employee housing. Although in your survey, there was no box to check if
someone favored "No funding from Vail taxpayers".
3. Respondents said the number one criteria for siting affordable housing was proximity
to bus stops. I' d say that is an indication of how deeply your respondents were
thinking. How hard is it to move the bus stop or add a bus stop?????
Other Comments:
4. What I hear when I listen to you speak or read your advertisement (yes, voters, we
. are being sold a product here and we will be paying) is that seasonal employee
housing is a given. Residents have said over and over... NO, NO, NO! (I
understand that Telluride had $92,000 in unpaid rent in their employee housing units
when the winter season ended.) You have told us again and again that you did not
intend to be in the housing business... and now you are talking about having a top-
notch management company. You don't need a mgt. company if you don't own the
property!
5. Use of the RETT fund is a public funding source allocated, by Ordinance, only for
the purchase of open space and recreational amenities, and should not be used to
solve private sector problems. In a 1997 memo to the Council, Bob McLaurin stated
that there were more uses for RETT funds over the next 10 years than there would be
funds available. How did the accounting change so drastically in less than one year?
The RETT fund was never intended as a vehicle to buy land for later development.
Reimbursing the fund for open space used for housing does not "make it right".
6. The press releases refer to 134 added acres of open space. I believe if one looks at
exactly which parcels those are, one would find that some of them are already
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"acquired"• as a result of the CatIII/VA/TOV agreement of 1996. How many times
. are you going to "give those to the citizens" as a buy-off for something that is not in
the citizen's best interest?
7. Additionally, almost all of these "added acres of open space" are steep hillsides in
residential neighborhoods. Some even in avalanche zones. And you are going to
count those equally with broad expanses of open space that you want to build
housing on..like Donovan Park, Bald Mtn. Road, etc....this is certainly not apples for
apples.
8. Some of the privately owned parcels that everyone agreed would be terrific housing sites aren't even mentioned or are minimally used in your plan. For, example, the
land just to the west of Lionshead, the lot just to the east of Vail Mountain School,
etc. And why is the Village Parking Structure exempt from seasonal employee - housing when the Lionshead Structure is being heavily used in your plan? " 9. This total lack of regard for prior important commitments to Vail citizens is
appalting. If you choose to disregard zoning and RETT lands, your message is that
people who are not here are more important than peopie who are here. You don't
seem concerned with the fact that 43°Io of survey respondents said the "sense of
community in TOV" had lessened even more in the past year. You are quick to
assume that the answer is publicly funded affordable housing. I don't think so!
Funding:
10. When your plan commits the Vail taxpayer to $10.5 million to build housing... you
haven't added in any cost for the land. So taxpayers are virtually kicking in "nearly-
sacred" open space for nothing. Didn't you fail to mention that? Where is the "full
disclosure" your constituents are ethically and morally due? And then you propose
to pay $400,000 for the Butell property... which, by the way, isn't 46 acres... more like
4.6. An important slip of the decimal. And I might add, the land is in an avalanche
high hazard zone.
_ 11. Your $10.5 million dollar plan gives away taxpayers land to subsidize the private
- sector's employee problems and your plan requires no action by the private sector.
You tell the world that we are going to commit to all this money and this plan
, without any commitment from employers. Balderdash? I know, you are "hoping"
for something from them.
I could go on. There are so many obvious holes in this "accelerated" plan. Your
"mandate for housing" does not exist. Check out the press releases from the last two
elections. Nothing ever gets done on affordable housing because it is not appropriate for
the public to do so. So, please stop lamenting that "all we do is talk about affordable
housing". If an appropriate solution presently eacisted... someone would have taken the
opportunity. As individuals, do each of you actually do everythini! vou talk about? I
think not.
Please detach your egos and listen to what the clear majority of letters and calls have told
you. Forget about "your legacy"... .or if you feel so strongly about that... pay for it
yourself. You are about to make huge decisions here with major impacts to our
economic vitality and to our sense of place.
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Stephen B. Engelman
June 22, 1998
Mayor and City Council
Town of Vail
Vail, Colorado 81657
RE: Lionshead Redevelopment Master Plan
Dear Mayor and Council members:
1 first came to Vail in February, 1964. My family built its house at 655 W. Forest Rd. in
December, 1965. Over the ensuing thirty-three (33) years, I have seen substantial
changes in the town, the mountain and the surrounding communities.
It was with interest that I have been following the process to shape the Lionshead
Redevelopment Master Plan. I have observed meetings on cabie, attended information
and work sessions when in town, and maintained communication with my friends and
neighbors who are year-round residents. 1 was therefore shocked to read the staff
memoraridum of June 9 regarding reclassification of the area around the "tennis courts"
at the southeast end of W. Forest Rd. This was the first time I observed any discussion
that the Lionshead Redevelopment Plan contemplated rezoning of this area on the other
side of the river.
Staff's memorandum characterized this area as consistent with the "existing single family
and duplex homes" to the south and west. However, the area could as easily have been
characterized, and in fact currently is, consistent with the open space to the north and east.
Allowing for the addition of six or twelve more homes on the mountain would detrimentally
impact the nature of the national forest area and the already congested dead end street.
Additional structures and other impervious surfaces in this sloped area near the riverbank
will exacerbate existing erosion and augment existing pollution.
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I urge you to confine the Lionshead Redevelopment Plan to the Lionshead commerciai and
industrial area, and not expand either zoning restrictions or uses south of Gore Creek.
Thank you for your consideration, for taking the time to read this letter and for your
commitment to all of the citizens in Vail.
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TOWN OF VAIL
75 South Frontage Road
Yail, Colorado 81657
970-479-2100
FAX 970-479-2157
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 24, 1998
Contact: Andy Knudtsen, Project Manager, 479-2440
Bob McLaurin, Vail Town Manager, 479-2105 or
Rob Ford, Vail Mayor, 479-1860
VAIL TOWN COUNCIL TO HEAR COMMON GROUND RECOMMENDATION
AT SPECIAL MEETING JUNE 30
(Vail)--A special meeting of the Vail Town Council has been set for 7 p.m. next Tuesday (6-30)
to consider a townwide siting and funding package generated by the hundreds of people
involved in the Common Ground citizen involvement process. The recommendations address
Vail's remaining needs for affordable housing, parks, open space and community facilities. The
draft plan also establishes a$10.5 mil(ion funding package that would be used to facilitate the
acquisition of deed restricted for-sale housing`and rental housing within Vail's boundaries.
The package is based on nine recurring themes which were heard throughout the town-
sponsored Common Ground process. Those themes include balancing the acquisition of open
space parcels with the development of housing in each part of town, funding the plan without a
tax increase, and including an emphasis on for-sale developments, while maximizing a smaller
number of sites for development of rental housing.
In considering the preferred plan next Tuesday, Town Council members may accept, modify,
reject or defer action on the plan. Members of the public are encouraged to attend and offer
comments on what they like about the plan as well as concerns they have about it.
Specifically, the plan would add 130 acres of open space, four new parks, 12 housing
developments, as well as three sites for community faciiities over the next eight years.
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The recommendations would add an additional 1,000 or more beds to Vail's housing inventory,
complete the town's 1994 Comprehensive Open Lands Plan, provide a neighborhood park
within walking distance of every household and set-aside three sites for yet-to-be determined
community facilities.
The preferred $10.5 million funding package proposes using five existing revenue sources to
fund affordable housing: proceeds from the sale of the town's land exchange properties;
refinancing the town's debt; proceeds from the sale of two town-owned sites on Willow Way and
Beaver Dam Rd.; redirecting 25 percent of the Real Estate Transfer Tax (RETT); and continued
use of the town's housing fund.
In preparation for Tuesday's meeting, the Town Counc+l has spent the past week asking for
citizen reaction to the draft. Response forms have been published in the local newspapers and
on the town's Internet web site. Also, an open house is planned for 5 to 7 p.m. June 25 in the
Vail Municipal Building.
Mayor Rob Ford said the comments and suggestions will be important as Council considers
possible modifications to the plan. "While we believe we must respect the overall direction thQ
community has articulated in this process, we do see continual refinements occurring every step
of the way," Ford.said. "The give-and-take I've seen from this community has been truly
outstanding, and although not everyone will agree with the final outcome, I think most everyone
will agree this has been an open, honest and fair process."
More than 1,000 people have left their mark on Common Ground. Responses to the annual
town survey and results from four public workshops have been used to assemble the plan which
attempts to balance Vail's multiple needs on the few remaining public and private sites available.
The process was initiated after members of the Town Council declared housing as its
number-one priority. "It was unanimous," recalls Ford. "We came out of our retreat in January
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with a pledge to facilitate the provision of housing in this community and to establish a dedicated
funding source for housing. We then went to the community to ask how we get it done, not if we
get it done. The community has now done its part by delivering a preferred plan. Now it's up to
this Council to follow through on our commitments and act on what we've heard."
Once approved, the community plan will serve as a conceptual document that will guide a.
series of implementation steps, Ford said. Each housing and park site, for example, would
undergo a separate devetopment review process, including zoning considerations, traffic
impacts and other characteristics. The proposed open space sites would be processed for
protected designation status, while the community facility sites would be reserved for future
discussions about appropriate uses.
"This won't be the last opportunity for public input," Ford said. "My sense is that we'fl be
working with the community on the Common Ground implementation actions for many years to
come."
For more information, contact Ford at 479-1860.
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75 South Frontage Road
Yail, Colorado 81657
970-479-2100
FAX 970-479-2157
MEDIA ADVISORY
June 24, 1998
Contact: Suzanne Silverthorn, 479-2115
Community Information Office
VAIL TOWN COUNCIL HIGHLIGHTS FOR JUNE 23
Work Session Briefs
Council members present: Armour, Arnett, Ford, Jewett, Kurz
--Discussion of Employee Generation
After hearing an overview on the employee generation tool (which could require developers to
provide housing for a percentage of additional employees generated by new development), the
Council agreed to move forward in pursuing details of the concept. During the overview, Andy
Knudtsen, senior housing policy planner, identified five policy issues to be determined by the
Council. They are: 1) should new development be responsible for providing housing, in one form
or another, for the employees generated by the new development; 2) what options should be
made available to the developers to fulfill their housing requirement; 3) what percentage of the
total number of employees to be generated must developers house; 4) once the number of
employees has been determined, how many units must be required to accommodate the number
of employees; and 5) to what degree should the ordinance be tailored for specific uses, such as
different types of commercial or residential uses as compared to consolidating the categories to
simplify the program. Dtiring discussion, Councilmembers favored an incentive/disincentive
approach that would make on-site housing the most attractive option for developers, while a
cash-in-lieu payment would be the least favored approach. Additional options could include
housing employees off-site within the town's boundaries, housing employees at downvalley
locations or buy-downs. During discussion, Councilman Ludwig Kurz said it was time to look to
all businesses--large or small--to get involved. He said he hoped a mechanism could be created
that would allow a group of small businesses to get together to provide housing. Kurz also said
he favored the cash-in-lieu approach as a"last resort." Councilman Michael Arnett reminded
fellow Councilmembers of the community survey showing strong support for employee
generation. He suggested finding a way that would enable existing businesses to master lease
seasonal housing on a first come, first-served basis. Kaye Ferry, an owner of the Daily Grind
coffee bar in Vail Village, said she was opposed to "another regulation" in the town. She also
expressed equity concerns regarding the multiplier ratio that would be used to determine the
number of employees that would need to be housed through employee generation. Her coffee
shop, for example, doesn't generate the revenues a bar or restaurant does, she said. Jim
Lamont of the East Village Homeowners Association suggested forwarding Knudtsen's report to
Eagle County and other jurisdictions in the hopes that they, too, would follow suit. Next steps
include completion of an employee inventory within the commercial core area. Then Knudtsen
will return to Council with examples of how a multiplier formula might be used as the Council
begins to hone in on the five policy issues. For more information, contact Knudtsen at 479-2440.
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--Lionshead Redevelopment Master Pian
In its continuing discussions on height and mass and development standards for the Lionshead
master plan, the Council reviewed six hypothetical redevelopment scenarios prepared by David
Corbin of Vail Associates (Corbin also serves on the Lionshead master plan team). The
scenarios included razing and rebuilding a three-story structure to four, five or six stories;
contrasting redevelopment by a third party developer compared to redevelopment by the
condominium ownership itself, as well as adding on to an existing building (without a tear-down).
The scenarios showed the difficulties in making a tear-down re-build project profitable or break-
. even, even with a doubling of density. Corbin said a tear-down re-build project with a third party
. developer would need to generate sales of as much as $900 per sq. ft. (more than triple.the "
current market) to justify such a project, or a tripling or quadrupling of existing density. Corbin
cited "unnatural land costs" from housing to purchase existing dwelling unit that contribute to the
difficulty. One scenario did offer some hope, however. By remodeling an existing building
(without the need for a complete tear-down), adding density and doing the project through the
condominium ownership, a profit margin would be created that would enable funds for the
remodeling of existing units as well as creation of new units. It was noted that the Antlers at Vail
has scheduled a work session with the Planning and Environmental Commission to pursue such
a scenario. Next steps in the master plan process include a review of revenue implications of the
building height scenarios, and approval of bulk, mass and height for the Lionshead Master Plan
at the Town Council's July 7, 1998 meeting. For more information, contact Dominic Mauriello,
project manager, at 479-2148.
--PEC/DRB Review
During a review of the recent PEC and DRB meetings, it was noted the PEC voted 4-3 to extend
a conditional use permit for the Lionshead Children's ski school tent for another year. In voting to
extend the permit, the PEC stipulated it woutd not approve an extension request for another year.
--Discussion of Business License Fees by Vail 1 st
Representing a new organization called "Vail 1st," longtime businessman Joe Staufer presented
a request to reallocate Vail's business license fee. Staufer, backed by representatives from the
Vail Village Merchant Association and the Vail Vitlage Commercial Property Owners Association,
asked that the $318,000 in annual Vail business license fees be used to promote Vail-based
events, training and other services which are geared towards increasing business in Vail. The
money is currently allocated to the Vail Valley Marketing Board and used for regional marketing.
As proposed, a 7-member board would be responsible for reviewing applications for business
license fee funds and making recommendations regarding those Vail-based disbursements.
Supporters said they're worried that downvalley competition has become a bigger threat to their
businesses than competition from resorts such as Telluride and Steamboat Springs, which is
why the marketing money should be redirected for Vail-based purposes. While West Vail
merchants tend to agree with keeping the marketing money focused on Vail activities, Howard
Gardner of the West Vail Liquor Mart, suggested using an existing organization to appropriate the
funds rather than creating another committee. The request from Vail 1 st will be considered as
part of the Town Council's budget process, with an evening public session set for Tuesday,
August 4, 1998.
--Appeal of a PEC Decision Denying a Request for Variances at 193 Gore Creek Plaza
Condominiums
The Council voted 4-1 (Jewett against) to uphold the Planning and Environmental Commission's
denial of a variance request for property owned by Rod and Beth Slifer.
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The Slifer's had requested that an 18 sq. ft. bay addition be approved to make room for a round
table in their dining room. In upholding the PEC's denial of the request, Councilmembers said
they could find no "physical hardships, practical difficulties or extraordinary circumstances" that
would enable the variance to be granted. Mayor Rob Ford noted the Counci!'s interests in adding
flexibility to the town codes and said the Council could consider relaxing the hardship factor
(through a modification of the town's codes) should community members support such a move.
For more information, contact George Ruther in the Community Development Department at 479-
2145.
--Village Core Construction Update -
The Council received an all-is-well report on the town's three construction projects.in Vail Village.
For details, contact Larry Grafel, public works/transportation director, at 479-2173.
--Ford Park Managed Parking Update
During an update on the Ford Park summer parking plan, it was noted that a chip seal project is
being wrapped up this week at the lot. Striping will occur in time for the July Fourth holiday. The
July dates for $5 paid parking are: July 1, 3, 4, 5, 6; July 10-12; July 15; July 17; July 19; July
22; Juiy 24; July 26; July 29 and July 31.
--Public Works Tunnel Reconstruction Project
The Council voted 5-0 to approve a$550,000 bid and funding package to reconstruct the Public
Works tunnel. The work by Viele Construction will include lowering the road so semi-trailer
trucks can access the Public Works facility rather than unloading on the South Frontage Road;
installation of a six foot sidewalk, which is a requirement for a certificate of occupancy to be used
for the employee housing; and drainage and utility improvements that must go under the South
Frontage Road. For more information, contact Greg Hall, town engineer, at 479-2160.
--Vail Village Overlay Rebid
The Council voted 5-0 to approve a$38,337 bid from Elam Construction for an overlay in Vail
Village. The town rebid the project after receiving confusing bid amounts. For more information,
contact Greg Hall, town engineer, at 479-2160.
--Information Update
- Announcements included: a contract with Motorola for installation of the 800 megahertz system
has been signed; the water district has asked about Town Council interest in pursuing a sewer
treatment facility on 15 acres of town-owned land in Dowd Junction; a town budget workshop
meeting has been changed to July 21; the Common Ground open house is June 25 from 5 to 7
p.m.; efforts are underway to create an advertising campaign that would promote Fourth of July
safety in Vail; and utility and rent rebates have been extended to La Cantina and All Mountain
Sports (tenants in the Transportation Center) to offset construction impacts.
--Council Reports
Bob Armour will be attending the Colorado Municipal League and Colorado Association of Ski
Towns meetings in Breckenridge.
--Refinancing Discussion of a Portion of the Town of Vail's Debt
Councilmembers heard a presentation from Steve Jeffers, the town's bond advisor, on various
approaches (negotiated sale, competitive sate, ar competitive-negotiated sale) to refinance a
portion of the town's debt. He said the town could refinance up to $7 million of its $24 million
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debt, which would free up between $2.5 million to $3 miliion between the year 2000 and 2005.
Councilmembers agreed to postpone a decision, pending the outcome of the Common Ground
process, which has recommended refinancing as one of five funding options for affordable
housing. For more information, contact Steve Thompson, finance director, at 479-2116.
--Other
Bob Armour inquired about color selection, process of approval, and installation of two skier
sculptures at the Vail Village Inn. Staff will investigate.
Ludwig Kurz, who attended Monday's Planning and Environmental Commission meeting on the
Vail Village Inn major amendment to a SDD, expressed concerns about the PEC's commitment .
to a thorough review process. Kurz said he sensed the PEC members would rather rely on Council to make the hard political decisions rather than rolling up their sleeves (PEC) to make
sound recommendations based on the town's codes, and regulations.
Next, Andy Knudsten, project manager for Common Ground, provided a brief update on the
process, including plans for this week's open house, as well as the June 30 special Council
meeting.
Lastly, Police Chief Greg Morrison said the department is still inquiring about the possibility of
helping to sponsor a late-night movie at the Crossroads theater on July 4 to give kids 21 and
under something to do after the fireworks.
UPCOMING DISCUSSION TOPICS
June 30 Specia/ Evening Town Council Meeting, 7 p.m.
Common Grounds Conclusion
July 7 Work Session
DRB Review
Lionshead Master Plan Discussion
Discussion of Ordinance #9, re: SDD #22
Discussion of Marketing Bill
July 7 Evening Meeting
First Reading, Ordinance #9, re: SDD #22
First Reading, Ordinance #10, re: Design Review Trigger
First Reading, Ordinance re: Model Traffic Code
Marketing Presentation by Frank Johnson
Parking Discussion
Lionshead Master Plan
July 14 Work Session
PEC Review
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Contact: Town of Vait Police Chief Greg Morrison, 479-2209 VAIL'S DISPATCH CENTER TO TAKE ALL EAGLE VALLEY 911 CALLS
BEGINNING JUNE 28
(Vail)-- The Vail Police Department dispatch center will be answering all 911 calls
from throughout the Eagle Valley beginning at 8 a.m. June 28. The expansion follows
the refocation of the Colorado State Patrol dispatch center from Eagle to Grand
Junction.
In addition to providing services for safety agencies in Vail, Avon and Edwards, the
central dispatch center will begin taking calls from the Eagle County Sheriff's Office,
Eagle Police Department, Western Eagle County Ambulance District, Eagle County
Animal Control, Eagle Fire Protection District and the Gypsum Volunteer Fire
Department.
The five lower-valley agencies have contracted with the Town of Vail to provide the
streamlined dispatch service. The cost of the service is based on actual costs plus
equipment replacement costs. The Town of Vail has also hired five new dispatchers
and one dispatch supervisor to help with the expected increase in calls.
For more information contact Town of Vail Police Chief Greg Morrison, at 479-2209.
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292 West Meadow Drive Vail Public Library
Vail, Colorado 81657
970-479-2184/Fax 970-479-2192
http://vail. net
PRESS RELEASE
Vail Public Library
292 West Meadow Drive
Vail, CO 81657
Date: June 19, 1998
Contact: Annie Fox
Phone: 479-2184
Fax: 479-2192
FRIENDS OF THE VAIL PUBLIC LIBRARY
BOOK SALE & BAKE SALE
The Friends of the Vail Public Library Annual 4th of July Book Sale will be held
in the Community Room at the Vail Public Library on July 3rd from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30
p.m., July 4th from 8:30 a.m. to 4:30 p.m., and July 5th from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. . The sale
offers a variety of adult and children's books, videos, CD's and other audio items.
Contact Annie Fox at 479-2184 for additional information.
- . The Annual Bake Sale will be held in front of the Vail Library on July 4th from
8 a.m. - 1 p.m. . Various baked goods donated by library patrons and staff will be on
sale as well as coffee. Proceeds will support the Vail Library Children's Program. To
donate baked goods or for more information contact Annie M. Schmidt at 479-2186.
TOWN OF VAIL
75 South Frontage Road
Yail, Colorado 81657
970-479-2100
FAX 970-479-2157
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 24, 1998
Contact: Larry Grafel, 479-2173
Town of Vail Public Works/Transportation Director
TOV BUS DRIVER WINS STATE DRIVtNG COMPETITION,
QUALIFIES FOR NATIONALS
(Vail)--Town of Vail bus driver Curtis King won two driving divisions at the tenth annual
Colorado State Bus "Roadeo" competition June 13-14 in Colorado Springs. He now qualifies for
two national competitions in the fall and spring.
King, known as "Cinci" for his Cincinnati hometown roots, competed against 36 other bus
drivers from around the state in three divisions including a timed driving competition, written test,
pre-trip inspection exercise and a wheelchair lift and securement exercise. He took top honors
in the transit coach division and the mini-bus division, which qualifies him to compete in the
national American Public Transit Association Bus Roadeo in New York City in October 1998 and
the Community Transportation Association of America Bus Roadeo in New Orleans in May
1999. Along with qualifying nationaHy, King also received a cash prize and a ceramic plaque.
King has been employed as a Town of Vail bus driver since 1997. He can usually be found
driving the intown or East Vail routes.
King is not the first Town of Vail bus driver to win a state title. In 1994, Bert Hauser, now a
TOV bus supervisor, won in the coach division.
The bus "roadeo" provides bus drivers with an opportunity to compete, show off and receive
recognition for their driving skills. This year marks only the second time in the history of the
Colorado State Bus "Roadeo" championships that a single individual won two divisions.
Also competing with King this year were TOV drivers Carolyn Djernies and Tony Trujillo.
L~~ RECYCLED PAPER
_ June 24, 1998 THE TEMS
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Vail cturnin~ point in town's history .
a n the eve of a vote crucial to the _ Others assail the town for using open nearly anything justifiable.
revitalizarion of Vail, concerning space to solve a lack of affordable hous- It's a little bit like having an illness that
affordable housing, things are FROM ing. Still others don't want neighbors requires a pretty nasty prescription to
beginning to heat up politically for the WHERE where there are none now. cure. Neither course is the most desirable,
Vail Council. = Beyond the motivation for opposition but one has an outcome with a future.
Affordable housing is the cornerstone ~ SIT and proposition, Vail has a problem need- The other does not.
of a community revitalization program ing a solution. Vail typically experiences Next Tuesday's council meeting should
Vail embarked upon some two years ago. first what the rest of the county will in provide some drama, and either a glimpse
The town is losing residents and with time. of the future or what might have been.
them its vitality. Only 28 homes out of - CLIFF The process has gone from above-
100 are occupied by full-time Vail resi- THOMPSON board, consensus-seeking discussion, and More muckraking...
dents. T'he rest belong to folks who live some disagreement, into the political
elsewhere. In the words of one, "The life The arena, where the heat is being applied to ~d a little follow-up-the rest of the
blood is being sucked out of the town." town wants to create 1,600 beds ~e people who are elected to make the story if you will. Last week I wrote about
T'he increasingly expensive cost of liv- in Vail over the next decade. Some of tough community decisions. muckraking by Avon Councilman Buz
ing in eastern Eagle County has driven those will be built on open space land This is perhaps the toughest decision Reynolds, Jr., on an Avon project.
many westwazd. That erosion creates a acquired by the town. Opposition is build- the Vail Council will ever have to make Reynolds removed the accumulated silt
number of problems. The Town of Vail 1nS• for it will define what the community will from the shores of Notringham Lake. He
with its Vail Tomorrow and Common Historically open lots are targeted for be like for the forseeable future. Will the Probably didn't make any money on it.
Ground programs has reached into the building and that is beginning to draw Vail Council be up to the tough decision Now I'm sure of it. Sources have told me
community, seeking participation to solve fire. Those who have lived in Vail for a or will it waffle, putting the key element that a portion of the dirt he hauled volun-
these and other problems, and now, that long time want to see the status quo. of its future into the limbo it has been in tarily to a pocket park in Wildridge, was
process faces its most crucial test. Understandably, their comfort level with for nearly 20 years? Politics can make accidentally placed on the wrong lot. He'll
change is low. have to move it, at his expense.
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Vail, Colorado 81657 Aspen, Colorado 81611
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Michael W. Standard, Esq. '
June 26, 1998
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VIA HAND DELIVERY
Vail Town Council
75 S. Frontage Road West
Vail, CO 81657 •
RE: Vail Common Ground Project;
Tract A, Vail Village Thirteenth Filing
Dear Council Members:
As you know, this firm represents several property owners in regard to the proposed
development of Tract A, Vail Village Thirteenth Filing ("Tract A"). This letter is to follow-up
on my correspondence to the Council of May 19, 1998. The recent press releases indicate that
the Town is poised to develop Tract A in spite of the clear terms of the Protective Covenants of
the 13"' Filing: Please be advised that my clients intend to take all necessary steps in the legal
and political arenas in order to protect their rights under the Covenants.
I cannot help but be somewhat disappointed in what has transpired over the last month in
regard to the Common Ground Project. The Council is intent on labeling all opposition to its
agenda as "special interests" with a"not in my backyard" mentality. In regard to my clients'
interests, I can only wonder if the Town would be so nonchalant if, instead of protective
covenants, the deed restrictions the Town so covets were ignored on the whim of an ill-defined
process taking place at the height of mud-season. In short, my clients have very clear legal
rights that they are prepared to defend. They were very candid about putting the Council on
notice and participating in the process, all to no avail.
I understand that the Council intends to point to the public input as support for its
position. Regardless of the fact that "public input" does not invalidate protective covenants, I
take exception to the manner in which the public was asked to respond. I participated in the
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June 26, 1998
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public workshop on Thursday, June 4, 1998. The written input from citizens was provided in a
packet, but was certainly not emphasized and was presented in a manner that I felt de=
emphasized its worth and importance. Unfortunately, the second page of my letter to the Council
of May 19, 1998 was omitted from the packet. This page contained the most substantive aspects
of my clients' position.
At the June 4, 1998 session, I informed the other individuals at my table that I was a
lawyer representing a group of homeowners in East Vail, and I told them of my clients' concerns.
I did not want anyone to be misled as to who I was or why I was there. After discussing the
covenants, not only did my group appear to be in agreement that they should be respected, but
we specified on all of our input sheets that the use of Tract A was governed by protective
covenants. The point is simple: All participants should have been informed of all potential legal
impediments to the proposed developments before they provided input. Only then could the
Council truly point to the public input as support for its agenda.
Finally, the imminent legal battle may have been unnecessary had the Council only
followed the amendment provisions of the Covenants. One can only speculate as to what would
have transpired had the Town made an attempt to enlist the support of the property owners of the
13t" Filing and let the owners make these decisions pursuant to the clear terms of the Covenants.
From the beginning, we have approached this issue in a forthright manner and with the expressed
intent of cooperating with the Council on the development of Tract A in a manner consistent
with the Covenants. With the constantly changing political climate of this town and the frequent
change in the make-up of the Council, these Covenants provide the only consistent legal
assurances that development will proceed in an orderly and predictable manner. Unfortunately,
the Town has refused to even acknowledge my clients' legitimate concerns, and I have been
authorized to seek injunctive and declaratory relief in the proper forum in order to enforce the
terms of the Protective Covenants of the 13`" Filing.
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cc: Vaughn Bollard & Plowden Bridges
Tony Bryant
Judie & Richard Conn
Rocky & Barbie Christopher
Ginny Culp
John Gorsuch
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June 26, 1998
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Jeff & Molly Gorsuch
Emily Gunn
Bob Gunn Bill House & Nancy Lipsky
Patricia Nixon
Liv & Crawford Pierce -
Bob Ruder '
Jim & Kathy Viele
Mr. and Mrs. Bruce Kasson
Bald Mountain Townhomes
Kennard C. & Jean Kaplan
J.P. & Mary E. McClane
Harry Greenberg
Amy Ferris
Mountain Enterprises c/o James Boscardin, M.D.
Albert & Araceli Bosch
Delores Eychenne c/o Vic Chaffiot
Siegmund Langegger
E. Stanley Rodier, M.D.
John C. Pritzlaff, III
Shanah Windey, George Ogden & Edward Lynch
John & Mildred McCallin
Kathy Gross
Peter and Ellen Guest
. Ronald & Rosemary Lord
Larry & Lori Allen
Deborah G. Wittman
Lynn Turner, M.D
Bill Turner
William E. & Paula Baber
Welcome to the Common Ground Open House.
Ptesse begin with a rcview of the pcncess, leading to the final recammead.ation. Maps and
photvgraphs of the sitea under considcration follow the rccommeodation.
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We; the undersigned, oppose the building of any housing on the town-owned West Vail property
adjacent to the town manager's house, for the folloiving reasons:
• The narrow hillside roads of the neighborhood can not safely accomiriodate any increase in auto or
pedestriz.n traffic.
• This is the LcnWly space that can serre as a pazk or natural space for this fiffly developed neighborhood.
Compared to what the town has provided other neighborhoods, a small pocket park surrounded by new
housing is not ariequate or fair to this locals neighbortcood. The entire parcel should remain open. * This site is heavily used and valuable as a centrally located.natural dog-walking area. It reduces fouling
of the very popular Davos hiking trail a?id p-ivate yards.
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believe the town council can come up with other creative ways to increase the number of lacals ancl
.n;plovees liv~n, in Vail. We urge them to do sq instead of.sacrifcing the integrity of the exisling loca,,
nei,'~barhoods that are still well-balanced and livahie znouLh to be desirable to t}ermanent resident~,.
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June 22, 1998 ~
Mr. Rob Ford ~
Mayor
Town of Vail
75 S. Frontage Road
Vail, CO 81657 -
Re: Lionshead Redevelopment Master Plan
Dear Mayor Ford,
Since early this year, I have been following the Town of Vail's various efforts to revise
the master plan for Lionshead. As the owner of property at 483 Beaver Dam Road in Vail, I
feel it is necessary to indicate to you how seriously I object to this.
I understand that among the many revisions the Town of Vail is considering include
the redesignation of the open space and residential area along Gore Creek and Forest Road
south of Lionshead. In addition, the revision calls for permitting construction of buildings in
this area up to thirty-three feet in height, rather than one story, as is the current limit. You are
thus making these areas easily zoned for commercial or residential development. This is
particularly disturbing considering the fact that the lands south of Gore Creek are not now
and have never been part of Lionshead. If you allow these areas to be arbitrarily associated
with the Lionshead plan, you will be doing a great disservice to the community which you
serve; for the destruction of open, natural space will radically alter the nature of our
Meighborhood.
I know that the goal of this project is to revitalize the businesses and residences of
Lionshead and to make this area more attractive. However, exclusively serving the
commercial interests of Vail Associates at the expense of the existing environmental and
aesthetic balance is not a worthy aoal. I urge you to seriously consider the negative impact
of including the lands south of Gore Creek in this plan. Lionshead can clearly be revitalized
without invading upon the lands south of Gore Creek. The path you are currently taking will
not serve to revitalize the area, but rather will set the tone for future desecration of our
beautiful land.
Res ectfully,
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Vail Town Council Members
75 Vail Road
Vail, CO 81657
Dear Vail Town Council Members:
The main advantage of getting the Vail citizens togetheY fox the Common Grounds process
is that this group of people are those who live in Vail as opposed to "box holder" who ever
they are. I send many pieces of mail to box holders in Vail and I know that these people
mostly live in Edwards. The citizens of Vail from my observation at the meetings and letters
to the editors do not want seasonal housing to be built by the Town of Vail, with tax money
which was designated for purposes not including employee housing. Construcrion should be
completed by the private sector in a location where the cost of building makes economic
sense for this purpose. I'm sure that those "box holdexs" that I send mail to and other "box
holders" all of whor.m do not live in Vail (and I will assume that many own businesses in
Vail) think it is a grand idea to build housing for employees with Vail dollars.
The people at my table agreed that "for sale" housing did make sense for some parcels in
question as long as it is within current zoning xegulations and again as long as it is completed
by the private sectoY. It could be deed restricted and offered to employees working in Vail
who want to purchase housing to become permanent residents.
. I am suggesting that the Town work with private developers who want to build affordable
housing to sell to employees in Vail. I do not think that I need to subsidize any business in
Vail to help them house their employees.
Sincerely,
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Susan Pollack
Susan Pollack
4173A Spruce Way ~
Vail; CO 81657 fm
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June 22, 1998
Bob McLaurin, Town Manager
75 S. Frontage Road
Vaii, Colorado 81657
RE: Lions Head Master Plan
Dear Mr. McLaurin:
We own a home on West Forest Road in Vail, and we're shocked to learn that the tennis court property
now seems to be included in the Lions Head Master Plan. This action is a complete misrepresentation
by the Town of Vail, as we were led to believe the changes in the Lions Head Master Plan, which we
support, affects onlv the property in Lions Head.
This past Winter, we checked to make certain that the tennis courts were not included in the Master Plan,
and we were assured on several occasions that was the fact. We are also concerned that we have not
been kept apprised in a timely manner of this serious change of direction by the Council. Any change in
the use of the tennis court property, other than single family or duplex residential, will be strenuousfy
opposed, not onty by me, but by my neighbors.
Unfortunatefy, my wife and I will not be able to personally attend the July 7 Hearing, due to a medical
problem. I can assure you that a move is now underway to have all the HOMEowners ON West Forest
Road to join this effort to protect our homes.
I must advise you that we have been property owners in Vail for over twenty years, and this is the first time
we, the property owners, have been totaily ignored by the Council. VVe can promise you a vigorous
defense against any change in the residential nature of our community.
I would appreciate it if you would bring our opposition to the attention of the Council at the July 7 Hearing.
Sinc ely,
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Jack L. Baylin
cc: Larry Field
Fred Rumsford
Neil Austrian
Charles Ackerman
Robert G. Phillips
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Februa 1,135,7861,205,101 1,561,286 1,695,850 1,737,343 1,780,568 1,828,766 1,814,495 1,816,107 1,993,389 2,089,673 2,121,757 2,145,769 24,012 2.68% 1,13%
March 1,378,7821,591,705 1,939,758 1,897,718 2,051,820 1,977,995 1,988,090 2,250,656 2,139,298 2,240,865 2,580,992 2,614,841 2,355,086 (259,755) -8.75% -9.93%
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Jul 479,201 559,683 649,139 665,094 737,288 742,750 811,538 892,830 893,483 963,717 1,043,637 1,060,879
Au ust 536,904 575,887 668,119 678,071 761,992 767,257 825,954 891,566 867,125 990,650 1,073,430 1,090,762
Se tember 442,402 422,502 469,032 482,328 491,684 485,954 560,535 725,205 645,902 630,453 637,831 642,504
October 273,951 291,204 335,740 364,002 324,802 367,578 400,525 408,405 461,791 413,573 472,836 478,142
November 386,270 376,235 430,820 438,731 428,086 497,907 553,681 594,491 611,147 601,208 707,166 717,214
December 1,245,6121,455,948 1,615,278 1,625,219 1,691,775 1,846,223 1,974,553 1,992,855 1,994,540 2,068,851 2,254,709 2,286,119 ~
Totel 7,945,164 8,654,572 10,311,744 10,764,896 11,274,286 11,603,647 12,395,718 13,007,013 13,030,448 13,719,308 14,747,419 14,941,951 8,024,087 pgp ~
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