HomeMy WebLinkAbout5.b. 2014 Community Survey Events commentsTOWN OF VAIL COMMUNITY SURVEY 2014
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Do you have any further comments on events in Vail?
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• Strongly support 'It is a privilege to live in Vail' I have heard this quote since we moved there in 2004. My personal quote is 'Living in Vail is like
having rich parents, everything they do is done well'. Thanks for the opportunity to talk about my new home for the last 10
years. Eileen M. Goode, Vail, CO
• Strongly support be careful to balance the socio- economic groups
• Strongly support Bring back winter concert series.
• Strongly support Bring in more R &B events
• Strongly support Bus to Ford Park, Walking from transportation center sucks
• Strongly support Clearly the sales tax spikes and the business community supports special events and as a resident, business owner and
taxpayer, I believe in this sound business strategy.
• Strongly support Consider at least one event geared towards international guests.
• Strongly support Don't give Highline Sports carte blanche.
• Strongly support Event organizers should be expected to establish sustainability after being supported by the Town for a few seasons. This will
allow money to be spent to develop new programs. Town funding should not become a free ride.
• Strongly support Events are what the end customer wants and increase revenue for Vail while having fun.
• Strongly support Events often feel two corporate (Bud Light anyone). Would like to see events that seem more organic or community driven
(like the Farmers Market).
• Strongly support Events other than sports.
• Strongly support Generate more tax revenue and get us bigger and better events. Keep them free of course
• Strongly support Great use of tax dollars on these eventsM
• Strongly support I appreciate everything the town does to promote the activities in Vail. Vail is a great community.
• Strongly support I just wonder why there are no winter concerts in the Ford Park Amphitheater. It's the highest quality venue, seems vail
should show it off all year round
• Strongly support I strongly support artist events in Vail but have to wonder if Vail Village can handle the larger venues. I was thrilled to see the
band Train at Ford Park a few year ago, I would love to see larger acts but in an area in Vail that can accomodat them.
• Strongly support I suggest more information be provided when the events are advertised in media such as the Vail Daily. Times and locations
specifics especially.
• Strongly support I think it has been a great idea and has been very successful. In my opinion it seems time to concentrate on the events we
have instead of adding any more.
• Strongly support I think it's great to support events in Vail, but we should be mindful of the amount spent on events vs. other areas of
importance (i.e. environment, health and wellness, infrastructure, renewable energy, etc.)
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TOWN OF VAIL COMMUNITY SURVEY 2014
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• Strongly support I think the town has done a great job using events to drive economic development and to broaden the tax base during the
economic downturn. I support this as one arrow in the quiver of a larger overall development plan. The only danger, I think,
is falling into a posture where we rely too heavily on events for economic vitality - -at the expense of a more diverse strategy.
• Strongly support I think there should be more music
• Strongly support I would rather funds be diverted for the making of another underpass
• Strongly support If Vail doesn't help bring in events who will?
• Strongly support Improve the quality of the bands who play at Hot Summer Nights as some of them last summer were really lousy. Bands
should appeal to the over 40 crowd.
• Strongly support It at times appears that numerious events on the same day -over lapping when maybe cold be spread out a bit more.
• Strongly support It was a mistake last year to charge for winter time events (I can't remember which events). It was great that it was changed
this year to be free again.
• Strongly support Keep bringing more and more events to Vail, both Winter and Summer events. (and Oktoberfest!)
• Strongly support Keep them coming. Treat the locals like kings
• Strongly support keep up the promotions... try and keep it classy where possible free events bring a lot of different types of people to vail ... the
police do a good job of keeping people who want to bring trouble in check... thanks to them and to the bus department for
getting everyone back and forth... more information for people coming and going to other cities and how to get there would
be helpful in and around the transportation center for at night when the information center is closed...
• Strongly support
Many ticked events are far too expensive for lower income residents
• Strongly support
More bike racks would be helpful in town; during events and the farmer's market it is hard to lock up bikes at the edges of
the towns.
• Strongly support
More classical music, if possible.
• Strongly support
More events geared toward over 40 people who might actually spend some money in town, as opposed to rap groups that
tend to attract less desirable people.
• Strongly support
More events in Lionshead
• Strongly support
More events would be good, but they have to be good quality.
• Strongly support
more free big name events in summer
• Strongly support
More sport and youth focused events
• Strongly support
Need a permanent event center IE Villar type
• Strongly support
need to do a better job promoting them, esp across the front range
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Parking at Ford Park is a pain during events.
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Perhaps events should be abit more selectively targeted at the groups of guests who are already here visiting and those who
will spend money when they come to an event. Not sure if so many concerts for the kids from Denver are really beneficial.
• Strongly support Please include the ADA Act to comply
• Strongly support Please make sure that the bands booked are the right ones for Vail and its image.
• Strongly support Please rethink the Spring Back to Vail events. They seem to be out of hand now. I personally witnessed drinking (open
containers on bus and in town this past weekend. and yes, just what is the benefit to the town and /or residents?
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• Strongly support Regarding the Farmer's Market. The Town of Vail is allowing this very public event, on public streets to be managed more like
a private event. The farmer's market is allowing the largest real estate firm to operate it's tent to the exclusion of all other
real estate companies. One company half a block from meadow drive is not allowed to have a space there while the largest
company, over the last couple years has the most visible spot in the whole market. The Farmer's Market manager says the
real estate company is permited to sponsor the event and have a tent because they have an office on Meadow Drive. But the
tent is oftentimes staffed by people from their offices located at other locations. This is not fair and the TOV could be liable
here because they are allowing one company to prosper and benefit to the exlcusion of all others. The Farmer's market now
says this company is 'sponsoring' the Farmers market. Sorry, but it appears that the company is paying off the Farmer's
market hundreds of thousands of dollars while that company makes upwards of a million dollars in commissions. This is not
fair to all the other companies in town. Every time a potential buyer goes to that tent that buyer is less likely to go into
another Realtor's office. The other Realtor's are tax - paying citizens. Even more, the hipocracy is clear: There is a farmer's
market where you allow many different vendors for your wares with the exception of real estate. The only thing that the real
estate company has in common with the Farmer's Market is that they are Farming the market. If the Farmer's Market is to
be equitable it could either not allow real estate companies into the market or they could set up a 'lottery system' where
different Vail -based companies could apply for tent space and different companies would rotate through the farmers market
throughout the summer.
• Strongly support Solaris venue is dangerous. Too few egress points and people crowding into the area in front of the stage. Also, why are we
spending money moving /building the stage in 3 different places during Spring Back? seems like a waste of money.
• Strongly support Special events bring people
• Strongly support Supporting events (financially) is crucial to their overall success.
• Strongly support The Arabelle and state liquor permitting should be examined. There has to be an easier more effective way for this to be
handled. I would hope that the Town of Vail and Vail Resorts could come up with a creative solution to make event
permitting easier and more advantageous for event producers that serve alcohol. A solution for the very expensive tent
rental would be great as well. I wonder if the town could own a coupe of tents and have staff to put them up for less than
what it costs to put them up for events right now.
• Strongly support The balance between highbrow and lowbrow events seems good. It's important, in my opinion, that the Town provide plenty
of visible security at events that may get a little rowdy as once a large event gets out of control it generally takes a
community years to recover its reputation and attract families back.
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• Strongly support the events need to help bring individuals to Vail and spend money on lodging, food, beverage and other services to create a
strong local community ... Telluride does an amazing job with their festivals all summer long creating great lodging and
restaurant sales all summer long ... I feel like Town of Vail does not want any noise of good vibration happening to keep their
residents happy with no noise ... hello it's a ski town it should be rocking and if you want no noise go to another resort where
they sleep all the time ... Vail needs to focus on making the town rock with all different events that have great energy and
court those great events to come to the Town of Vail ... oh then you have to do something.
• Strongly support There needs to be some mud season events. My family and friends try to visit during off season, but when they
arrive.... there is nothing to do. My best friend is coming to town the first week of May, and everything I have planned to do
involves getting out of Vail and visiting other parts of the state. Even if there was ONE event planned during May and
October - more people who visit Vail or remain in the valley instead of fleeing to Fruita /Moab /Denver /other states.
• Strongly support
These events help keep the sense of community strong among locals.
• Strongly support
They kept us ahead of our competition
• Strongly support
Think there should be one Oktoberfest (in Lionshead) and it's need to have some new life breathed into it to make it more
popular and a bigger draw to front rangers.
• Strongly support
Too many small events that crowd the town but do not add that much positve revenue. The cultural events like
Bravo /Dance /Jazz are excellent and have a very good economic impact.
• Strongly support
Town funds help to support events. Events help to bring in visitors and revenue. It only makes sense that the Town would
provide financial assistance.
• Strongly support
Town investment must be offset by incremental tax generated and decline as events are established
• Strongly support
Vail events improve lifestyle for residents and visitors.
• Strongly support
Want more that involve restaurants /bars but that are in house for them while benefitting the customer. Like when we have
street music venues.
• Strongly support
We are a destination resort community. Our survival depends on tourism.
• Strongly support
We need a bigger venue than ford park. STS9 will attract 7000 people
• Strongly support
We need to find the right balance between promoting events and being so successful that the overcrowding creates a
negative experience for locals and guests.
• Strongly support
We need to minimise problems like last weekends concert where young people were drunk and disorderly.
• Strongly support
We, family and friends, love the events that the town supports and invests in. Please continue to do so.
• Strongly support
Well run & high quality
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• Strongly support would like to see a music festival in the summer with up and coming bands geared to a younger audience along the lines of of
bands at lollapalooza
• Strongly support Would love to see a performing arts center in Vail that could host indoor events in the winter.
• Strongly support Yes, the piper must be paid and we all take part in that.
• Strongly support You have to be smart and even handed in events you invest in. Parking is what it is and that needs to be considered in
investing in huge events. Ticketing needs to be very limited when we invite people to come and can't provide parking. The
police need to be visible and helpful and leave those green envelopes in the office.
• Strongly oppose After an event occurs twice, the event should be able to charge a ticket price that covers costs and no longer eligible for a
government subsidy.
• Strongly oppose Don't'invest' in any events. Using the word 'invests' shows your bias. You SPEND money on events. We don't need ANY
events.
• Strongly oppose Spring back to Vail brings the WRONG people here. There are not enough events that bring the RIGHT people here. See
Aspen as an example of Right - people events. It's not the number of people, it's the TYPE of people. Current Events bring the
WRONG people to Vail.
• Somewhat oppose Attract crowds that will spend money in town
• Somewhat oppose Dont need to build more before we can fix the environmental issues.
• Somewhat oppose Doubt that events like Burton bring in enough revenue to justify TOVs subsidy, would like to see tax revenue figures
• Somewhat oppose I believe the negatives out weigh the questionable benefits. These people don't spend in shops and not much in restaurants
• Somewhat oppose I think we spend too much on events. I am all in favor to help start -up events, but after a few years they should not receive
Town funding.
• Somewhat oppose I think you need raise the bar on these events and that they attract a base of people that would further enhance our town.
• Somewhat oppose I'm not convinced that all the events really have a positive impact on our economy.
• Somewhat oppose Keep the rap concerts out of Vail and especially away from Ford Park.
• Somewhat oppose Not sure about government investing in events; maybe discounts or more favorable taxing treatment would be better
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Do you have any further comments on events in Vail?
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• Somewhat oppose Scale down. The mountain sells itself and the town should sell itself. Why press so hard to offer events that no one really
wants? In other words: back off! Trust the community to come up with the right mix of offerings to keep folks coming - -to the
shopping, the restaurants, the activities that VA doesn't have to micro - manage and produce. Less truly can be more!
• Somewhat oppose see previous comments on quality of events
• Somewhat oppose Seems a little corrupt when the CSE and Town Event Managers compares personal gift bags of different events. Remember
you are spending tax dollars!
• Somewhat oppose Starting this year I am concerned with public marijuana use at events. There are too many events that encourage excessive
drinking. I do not want to see town money used to support events. I think the sponsors should pay for the event.
• Somewhat oppose Too many.
• Somewhat oppose Vail needs to develop accurate metrics for events and have set ROI goals before investing.
• Somewhat oppose Why even have events if you're not going to have ample free parking
• Somewhat in favor BRAVO and the farmer's market, dance festival are FANTASTIC HIGH QUALITY UNIQUE EVENTS. the Teva games and the like
are a pain. Strongly support the US Pro Cycling Tour.
• Somewhat in favor Burton open is a bit overwhelming.
• Somewhat in favor during Bravo, very difficult to park at Ford park unless yu come over 1 hour before the performances.
• Somewhat in favor Each event should be carefully evaluated for the contribution it makes - economic, enhance Vail's reputation in sport or
international community, attract destination guests, etc.. Not all events can, nor should they, draw destination guests. Some
are just plain fun or provide entertainment for guests while they are here, but these events should not try to 'take over the
town' and disrupt the guest experience. .
• Somewhat in favor Event investments should measurably pay for themselves within 3 years or be discontinued in favor of something that will
• Somewhat in favor Events are a great tool and will be well supported if they are chosen carefully and delivered well. We need to be more
disciplined to make sure that they mesh with our vision of this town. We belabor the process of design and building for a
vision of the villages, then we obstruct the approved work with used white tents 1/3 of the time (and the setup and
breakdown periods degrade the pedestrian experience of Vail tremendously, often for longer than is reasonable).
• Somewhat in favor Events are an example of commercial vs community interests -- important, by of less concern for residents and second home
owners - -with some very notable exceptions i.e. Bravos €; .
• Somewhat in favor Find better quality acts for Spring Back to Vail
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• Somewhat in favor Funding for some events is necessary. I seems like we keep adding things, give it only one year to prove itself, and then it
goes away. I would rather new events have funding for a couple of years to get established, and then funding sunset. Special
events should not be dependent on funding from the town for long term.
• Somewhat in favor Happy about the new bluegrass series -great talent. Always a trade off with rock concerts but that is what brings in the big
• Somewhat in favor I don't want Vail to turn into a Telluride with major destination events throughout the summer season. That will negatively
crowds. And they do spend. Wondering why Dobson doesn't have shows anymore. There seems to be a point of diminishing
• Somewhat in favor
returns with the free shows; once there are too many people here, then we see property damage, behavior problems,
disruption of normal business. Also always been curious if the bigger crowds could be accommodated by walking up the
• Somewhat in favor
mountain in Lionshead or Gold Peak.
• Somewhat in favor
How much do they cost?
• Somewhat in favor
I am ok with the town investing in events, but there are too many.
• Somewhat in favor
I am strongly in favor of events that bring sestination guests; I am against one -night stand events that flood the town but do
not contribute to economics
• Somewhat in favor
I don't know if its that I'm getting older, but some of the concerts the TOV does for free are getting out of hand.
• Somewhat in favor I don't want Vail to turn into a Telluride with major destination events throughout the summer season. That will negatively
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impact the live- ability of the town.
• Somewhat in favor
I like sporting events and more family friendly music (again, not the kind of music that attracts the pot smoking /peddling
crowd)
• Somewhat in favor
I really enjoy the outdoor concerts and free events!
• Somewhat in favor
I think it's a shame that winter street beat concerts are no longer.
• Somewhat in favor
I think the Town needs to look at the return it gets in tax dollars spent by people attending these events. Either through
lodging, retail and restaurant purchases. I think the Town needs to be more careful that the amount they are spending reaps
rewards for the Town.
• Somewhat in favor
I'm in favor of the events as long as the events clearly pay for themselves through increased taxes because of rooms booked
and other money spent by tourists that come in for the events.
• Somewhat in favor
I'm very disappointed that Vail allowed the use of its name and invested funds in the World Cup 2015 event only to have it
become a Beaver Creek event.
• Somewhat in favor
If it brings in overnight guests I'm in favor. If it brings in daytrippers, not.
• Somewhat in favor
In general, this seems like a good move, but adding too many events will give people and businesses event fatigue. There is a
focus on outdoorsy events, but adding more brain - stimulating events similar to the Aspen ideas festival or TED talks, etc
would add more variety and bring new types of visitors here.
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• Somewhat in favor It's hard to have an informed opinion without knowing more about the town's overall budget, but I tend to think that Vail
isn't broke and supporting events is something that the town can afford. Unless I'm missing something, it seems like these
events create more 'buzz' about the community and that's a good thing.
• Somewhat in favor July 4 is a wonderful day in Vail, but it is almost impossible to get into town. There should be more food sold on the street
that day. All restaurants are overflowing. This is a good problem to have, I guess.
• Somewhat in favor just reiterate the one I made above
• Somewhat in favor Miss the winter concert series. I wish there would be a big name concert once a month in the winter during quiet weekends
to generate traffic.
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• Somewhat in favor See previous comments. Keep the loud rock concert type events isolated or at Golden Peak. Actually, keep them in
Keystone.
• Somewhat in favor
Summer events are far superior to winter events, which only seem to acknowledge 20 year olds.
• Somewhat in favor
The town needs to be the nucleus for the events, and should seek out side sponsors when ever possible.
• Somewhat in favor
The Vail Jazz Festival (concerts) are under - funded compared to Bravo.
• Somewhat in favor
They are not essential to our experience. The skiing, the summer mountain biking, adventure ridge, swimming, and town
(both village and lionshead) all are what we come for. We end up not going to any events really, one or two partial concerts.
We do like the fireworks, the torchlight parades.
• Somewhat in favor
Too many teen events..... what about the adults who are paying for the teens to be there? Lots of loud music.
• Somewhat in favor
TOV buses do not run frequently enough in summer to get to and from some of the events
• Somewhat in favor
While I am supportive, I want to see that the Town isn't just throwing money at things because it's available. I'd rather see a
stronger evaluation and more scrutiny. Events have to be tried to determine if they're successful, but I'd like to see the Town
back away from failed /failing events sooner. For example, the film festival seemed to me to be a bust. Teva /Eddie Bauer
games are worthy of a shoulder- shrug. And, the Burton US Open attracts a younger, but heavy- drug -user crowd. I was
offered the opportunity to purchase illicit substances numerous times during this event. It makes me wonder what the
critieria are for selecting events.
• Somewhat in favor YAY HOT SUMMER NIGHTS.
• Neutral As with anything, we just need to maintain a balance of quality events that cater to a variety of interests.
• Neutral I am not sure of the Town of Vail's economic development strategy
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• Neutral I do not believe that most of the events supported actually add to the economic vitality ... mostly entertain weekend visitors
that are here anyway ... more attention to off - season, mid week business development, as well as mid -week tourism
development in general would be most helpful.
• Neutral I realize it is a difficult balance between what events the town supports and those it doesn't. Are the sponsorships made only
for economic benefit of town, i.e., sales, lodging taxes etc. or are their other motives involved. I can't tell which.
• Neutral
I suppose I am not informed enough to make that opinion
• Neutral
I think sometimes Vail gets a little carried away with some of the 'party' events. I'm more in favor of the athletic types of
events.
• Neutral
I think there could be better information about events. Sometimes things are only mentioined in the Vail Daily the day of the
event (which is too late) or after the fact. Or sometimes there is incomplete information (tells you the date and price, but
not where to go), etc.
• Neutral
I'd like to hear some big band era music -5 saxes, 4 trumpets, 4 trombones, piano, base, drums, guitar, and a good singer that
you can understand!
• Neutral
I'm just not into intense crowds and some of the music
• Neutral
Just don't get so aggressive as to spoil what we all came here for to begin with...
• Neutral
no
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Oldies concert
• Neutral
Question is to general to reply.
• Neutral
The big free concerts have been bands that attract 10,000 rowdy young kids that crowd and trash the town and spend very
little money. You should bring bands that will attract an older audience.
• Neutral
There has always seems to be events such a concerts geared outwards younger folks but nothing really for children and /or
families. The Town really lacks that and you should take a few cues from Beaver Creek when it comes to family /children's
events & activities.
• Neutral
Too much money spent of replacing artwork and snowmelted streets, not enough on quality music.
• Neutral
village run internet service would be great
• Neutral
Why not free musicians on vail mountain at the end of the day? Something parents can take the kids to apres skiing or older
residents can go to for fun apres skiing.
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