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MINUTES OF THE MEETING
VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION
JANUARY 5, 1970
The meeting was called to order by Chairman White in
the Manor Vail Conference Room at 2:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL found the following members present:
Chairman Gerry White
?Mayor John Dobson
Commissioner Robert Clark
Commissioner David Gorsuch
Commissioner John Donovan
Others present: Blake Lynch, Terry Minger,
Stewart Brown
I. SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. Terry Minger reviewed in
deta11 those sections Of the regulations which have been
revised in the fifth draft. Because the majority of
municipalities in Colorado enforce their subdivision regu-
lations in ordinance form- -and because there is greater
strength and respectability inherent in a directive issued
by the Board of Trustees as opposed to the Planning Com-
mission-- these regulations will be enacted and enforced as
an ordinance. The primary changes in the fifth draft deal
with agreement and negotiation procedures. Attorney
Stewart Brown, legal advisor to the Commission, felt
strongly that negotiation clauses should replace flat
requirements in certain areas of the regulations. Public
hearings will be necessary only for preliminary plat
approval -- unless final plat is substantially changed.
The sections regarding public sites and general improve-
ment requirements have been ertirely rewritten. Commission
members will review this fifth draft in detail and come
prepared to nit -pick at 10:00 a.m. Friday, January 91 in
a session preparatory to presentation of the Commission's
recommendations to the Trustees on January 1.2.
II. WAIL ASSOCIATES` EMPLOYEE HOUSING PLAT. on behalf of
Clay 91mon a-n-3 V5111 ssocla es, o ney = er presented
to the Commission for its approval Vail Associates' final
plat for the area just east of Sandstone 70 and just north
of 1--70, to be purchased by their employees for residen-
tial purposes. Chairman White stated that lack of refer-
ence to drainage, road elevations, grades, etc., pre-
cluded any decision by the Commission at this time.
Blake will write a letter to Clay Simon requesting the
additional information, as well as the type of dwellings
beixig anticipated for this area.
III. ANNEXATION POLICYJPULIS ANNEXATION. Terry Minger
began this dISCUSSIOn DY querying ttorney Brown on the
advisability of quoting a specific percentage of required
land dedication in the Annexation Policy or merely
alluding to the Subdivision Regulations which make the
specific statement. Attorney Brown felt that, as an
advisory document, the Annexation Policy should highlight
the appropriate portions of the Subdivision Ordinance.
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was suggested that the following
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tion applicants be incorporated in the policy: Submit a
checklist of municipal services anticipated for the w
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posed annexed area; Submit development plans along with
the annexation petition; Annexee should confer with
Planning Commission before submitting petition to insure
compliance with requirements. Blake Lynch noted that,
although a petition had been submitted by Warren Pulis
and neighbors, it could not be considered at this time
due to the recent disclosure that Vaal Associates owns
a one -Foot strip of land between the Town and the Pulis
property. In order to meet the annexation contiguity
requirement, Vail Associates will have to become a party
to a subsequent petition. Jim Dean, VAI's attorney,
is currently verifying that Mr. Pulis' property is in-
deed without the Town and that VAI does own the one -foot
strip of land. Blake Lynch will contact Warren Pulls re-
garding redraft of the petition to include reference to
the cane -foot strip owned by VAI, water rights for the
proposed annexed property, and a land dedication of 8 %.
IV. MUNICIPAL BUILDING SITE. There was some discussion
regarding the si a north o the Holiday Inn not being the
most ideal location for a municipal complex. Blake asked
the Commission to prepare a list of potential available
sites -- including the one proposed - -based on priority of
desirability for submission to the Trustees and subsequent
transmittal to Vail Assodates.
V. ZONING ORDINANCE /FARs. Rodney Slifer spoke in his own
behalf and unoFricDlW or Peter Seibert, President of
Vail Associates, who feels it is time to re- evaluate the
FAR. Local lodging establishments are contemplating pri-
marily vertical expansion which might obscure. ,portions of
• the village. Mr. Slifer offered to obtain an official
opinion on this matter from the Architectural Control
Committee. The Planning Commission expects to hear soon
from the several local citizens who have informally
expressed an interest in such a re- evaluation; a meeting
of the Commission and citizens will be arranged as soon
as such contact is made. Attorney Brown noted that the
most effective and expeditious amendment to the FAR sec-
tion of t:xe Zoning Ordinance would be introduced by a
citizens' petition citing specific recommendations.
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adjourned at 4:45 p.m.
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JANUARY 9, 1970
Chairman Gerry white called the 14eeting to order at 10:00 a.m.
in the Manor Vail Conference Room.
ROLL CALL: Roll call found the following members present:
Chairman Gerry White
Mayor John Dobson
Commissioner David Gorsuch
Commissioner Robert Clark
Absent: Commissioner John Donovan
Others present: F. Blake Lynch
Terrell J. Minger
Stewart Brown
Clay Simon
Purpose of the meeting was to make final review of the fifth
draft of the Subdivision Regulations prior to public hearing
to be held January 12, 1970, at 7:30 p.m. Attached as Exhibit
A is memorandum from James Mosley, Vail Associates, Inc.
Attorney, to Clay Simon, containing his comments on the fifth
draft. per ivir. ilosley's suggestion, the term "private street"
will be clearly defined on page 45 and its usage throughout
the dor�ument will be checked to assure conformance with such
definition. Applications for private streets will be con-
sidered separately on an individual basis, and standards for
private streets won't necessarily be the same as for public
streets. On page 9, Section 1, Paragraph 2, Attorney Brown
recommended deletion of Town Coordinator authority by usage
of the following verbage: "The Town Coordinator shall review
the Outline Development Plan and data and shall advise the
changes deemed desirable." It was noted that the Town Coordin-
ator's function in this procedure is not statutory--such title
should be changed to Town Clerk or Chairman of the Planning
Commission. The pre- application procedure is consultatory, but
not mandatory.
Article II, :section 2, Approval of Preliminary Plat.
Much discussion ensued regarding the time factors involved in
steps for approval of preliminary plat. Conclusion was that
a public hearing will be held within thirty (30) days after
subdivider files preliminary plat with the Town Clerk; and
within fifteen (15) days thereafter the applicant shall be
notified of the Planning Commission's decision. Question
arose regarding whether resubmission of preliminary plat is
necessary in cases where original submission was disapproved
for specific discrepancies; this is not necessary if svb;ject
discrepancies are obviously corrected by app 14cant. Approval
may be given subject to designated changes ordered by the
Planning Commission, and such approval shall constitute final
approval in respect to which no further public, hearing need
be held. It was suggested that the standards.on page 14 be
deleted from the sixth draft. The top paragraph on page 15 be-
ginning "Although" and ending "approval" will be deleted. The
word "substantial" found on lines 7, 12, 14, and 20 of page
15 will be deleted. On page 19, subparagraph 3., the following
words will be added after "Commission "..." in accordance with
the topogralahy under consideration." On page 25, Z.b., 2nd
line, word "deductions" should be charged to read "documents ".
Page 26, Item 1, 4th line: delete "adequate reservation of ".
On page 27, distinction should be made between public and
private streets. On page 30, Item 6.b., second line, delete
words "and d. ". Item 3 on page 37 will be revised. Re
Section 2, Item 1, on page 38, Clay Simon inquired as to
whether the referenced street and paving specifications
exist; meiry Mingdr replied that they are on file in the
Town Off ice. On page 40, the last sentence of Section 4
will be deleted. On page 42, Technical Variances, the
following sentence will be added to the end of the paragraph
"Applications for technical variances should be submitted
with the preliminary plat." The question of whether the
Subdivision Regulations should be in ordinance or regulation
form will be deferred until the January 5 planning Commission
meeting.
With no further business to be discussed the meeting ad-
journed at 12:45 p.m.
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threfora irnortant Chat` the Ordin nce�s �or r�asoiut i on5
>f: the tc)wn Q%Px'ea ly provide" for zuch caffice the (lutie�,
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hoar; ing on a final plat" shall not be VagUireed if in aub-
utant~iat compliance with the 'appx*ved .Preliminary plat.
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requirement with reopeot to a tree It Says that ��no
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40 AGENDA
JOINT VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION/
VAIL BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEETING
JANUARY 12, 1970
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, 7:30 p. m.
Announce that Planning Commission Meeting will be
temporarily adjourned until after Board of Trustees
meeting
BOARD OF TRUSTEES MEETING
].. Consideration of an Ordinance acc.G�rt;nc� �.iie dedicatir�n
of certain parks and public land from Vail A -,screiaE4,s�
Inc., and accepting conditions relating to the use of
same; and setting forth details in relation thereto.
2. Consideration of an Ordinance accepting lease agreement
between Vail Associates, Inc., and Town of Vail for Main
Parking Lot for 49 -year period.
3. Discussion of Refuse Collection.
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VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION
VAIL BOARD OF TRUSTEES
JANUARY 12, 1970
Chairman Gerry White called the public hearing on the pro-
posed Subdivision Regulations to order at 9:55 P•m• in the
Manor Vail Conference Room.
ROLL CALL: Roll call found the following members present:
Planning Commission: Chairman Gerry White
mayor Join Dobson
Commissioner Robert Clark
Commissioner John Donovan
Commissioner David Gorsuch
Board of Trustees:
Absent:
others present:
Mayor Joan Dobson
Trustee John Donovan
Trustee Joseph Langmaid
Trustee Thomas Steinberg
Trustee C. E. Kindel.
Trustee Richard Bailey
Trustee John Kaemmer
F. Blake Lynch
Terrell J. minger
Trafton Bean
Stewart Brown
Clay Simon
George Beardsley
James Mosley
After consdeawouldibeumadentoitheasixthcdraft ofathe1� l- Sub�
lowing changes
Sub-
division Regulations:
Page 3, Section 2., item 2., last word: Change "Kayor" to
"Chairman of the Planning Commission."
Page 4, Section 4.: Change first six lines to read as follOWS :
"Any plat of land to be developed under a Planned Unit Devel-
opment Plan shall be approved by the Planning Commission pro -
vided that the requirements of Ordinance No. 7, Article 6,
Section 4, shall have been complied with, and provided. ft:rthsr
Page 29, Section 6., Item 1.: Change first five lines t:o read
as follows: "No plat shall receive the approval of the
Planning Commission unless the subdivider makes a dediratic n
of land equivalent to at least 8% (eight percent) of the Pro-
posed subdivision (not including the streets thereof) for
parks, open spaces, as provided by... ". In the 12th line,
eliminate word "preliminary ", and eliminate same word through-
out Subdivision Regulations, as applicable.
Pages 30 and 31: Change No's. 3, 4, and 5 to 4, 5, and 6,
and insert the following Item 3: "In lieu of dedications as
hereinabove provided, the Planning Commission may agree to
approve, and the applicant may agree to make, a reservation
or dedication of land for public purpose other than parks
and open spaces."
With the aforementioned changes, the Planning Commission unani-
mously recommended the Subdivision Regulations to the Board
of Trustees as a proposed ordinance for their acceptance-
The Subdivision Regulations will be published in ordinance
form, as Ordinance No. 4, Series of 1970, "An Ordinance
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Regu$ating the subdivision of Land in thP Town of Vail; Pro -
jridiric' A Procedure for the Preparation, Processing, and
Pkddentatibn of Plats, Establishing Design Standards, Re-
quiring Improvements, Defining Certain Terms, Prescribing
Methods for Enforcement, interpretation, AmenJment., Separabil-
ity, and Declaring an Emergency Therefor." Blake Lynch polled
the Trustees .c to whether they had read and understood slib-
ject proposed ordinance; the poll was unanimously affirmative.
VOTE: Approve Proposed Ordinance No. 4 of 1970.
mayor Jc
Trustee
Trustee
Trustee
Trustee
Trustee
,ha Dobson
John Donovan
Josepb La gmaid
Thomas Steinberg
C. E. Kindel
Richard Bailey
YES
YES
YES
YES
YES
YES
ordinance No. 4, Series of 1974, Vail Subdivision Regulations, is
hereby approved.
With no further business to discuss, the public hfiaring ad-
_ journed at 12:05 a.m.
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AGENDA
VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION
JANUARY 19, 1970
I. DISCUSSION OF PULIS ANNEXATION
II. DISCUSSION OF SANDSTONE 70 ANNEXATION
III. DISCUSSION OF ZONING ORDINANCE SETBACK AMENDMENT
IV. DISCUSSION OF ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT FOR LIONSHEAD
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VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION
JANUARY 19, 1970
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Chairman Gerry White called the meeting to order in the
Manor Vail Conference Room at 2:10 p.m.
ROLL CALL found the following members present:
Chairman Gerry White
Mayor John Dobson
Commissioner Robert Clark
Commissioner David Gorsuch
Commissioner John Donovan
Others present: Blake Lynch, Larry Robinson
Agenda Item I (Discussion of Pulis Annexation) was deferred
until discussion of Item II (Sandstone 70 Annexation) was
complete.
II. DISCUSSION OF SANDSTONE 70 ANNEXATION. Blake Lynch
reviewed andstone 0 s Petition or Annexation, and noted
that they want the Town to contribute financially to the
surfacing of the road at that location. The general con-
sensus of the Planning Commission was that we will help
them wherever possible with arranging contractors and
supplying advisory personnel when needed, but financial
assistance will not be available to them or anyone else in
a similar private --road situation. The Planning Commission
suggested that in lieu of the required S% land dedication,
we request that the Condominium Association keep the stream
adjacent to their property open for public use. Sandstone
70 currently has ownership to the middle of Sandstone Creek- -
Eagle County Development Corporation (ECDC) claims title to
the other half. This boundary dispute- -due to survey errors- -
should be clarified in the near future. Blake noted that
Mr. Dudley Abbot will no longer have control over the Asso-
ciation in a couple of months, and he would like to see the
annexation take place before that time. The number of sig-
natures on the petition .reflects similar interest on the
part of the owners. Mr. Abbot joined the Commission and
outlined specific details of the area to be included in
the annexation. Chairman White queried Mr. Abbot as to
whether he had asked Don Almond to consider annexation of
his property coincident with Sandstone 70's petition.
Mr. Abbot replied that he hadn't done so, and that he
preferred not to clutter up his petition for Sandstone.
In the northwest corner of the area to be annexed is a
small rectangular portion of land recently purchased from
ECDC. Mr. Abbot remarked that he didn't think it wise to
consider this area for annexation at this time due to the
current boundary dispute over the stream and the possibility
of antagonizing ECDC. Blake asked Mr. Abbot if they were
considering coming into the Vail Water and Sanitation Dis-
trict; he replied that at the present time it could go
either way - -to ECDC or the VW &SD. Question arose as to
whether Mr. Abbot had approached his condominium owners
or they had requested him to initiate annexation; he
replied that he had gone to them. with the proposal.. He
explained that Sandstone 70 has a Board of Managers, which
acts as declarant and reserves the right to control the
Condominium Association until the entire development is
. complete. At that -time it is turned over to the owners to
manage. Other than the aforementioned declarant, there is
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no active Condominium Association. The property recently
purchased under ECDC covenants will be separate from the
-present condominium development. ECDC has architectural
control. over this area. Blake will work with Dudley on
the water changeover to VW&SD, and annexation to the Fire
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District. This will be the kickoff point for annexation- -
owners will save money on insurance rates with the 6
rating our Fire District currently has. Chairman White
asked Mr. Abbot if there were any setback requirements
or covenants regarding land just adjacent to the stream.
Dudley replied that there were none at present, but that
consideration would be given to turning the stream over
to the Town for recreational /public purposes. Chairman
White summarized that the area to be annexed was acceptable
to the Commission; Blake will work with Dudley on a side
agreement regarding the newly acquired northwest portion.
I. DISCUSSION OF PULIS ANNEXATION. Blake had a meeting
last week with Warren Pulls and Carry Baker of Dawson 6
Nagel in Denver; at that time it was concluded that the
one -foot strip thought to be owned by Vail Associates was
indeed part of the Pulis property. In lieu of an 80
dedication on this annexation, Mr. Pulis would like to
append this annexation agreement with a flat offer of 80 on
any future annexation. Chairman White suggested that in
lieu of the 8% dedication on this annexation, the Commis-
sion might tighten up density requirements. He also
suggested that we request the agreement to say that 8% be
required of the total area anticipated to be annexed. He
felt that any land set aside permanently (such as the golf
course) should be exempt from the 8 %. Attorney Robinson
noted that any agreements of this nature should be separate
from the annexation petition. He summarized such a side
agreement briefly - -it would basically say that they would
agree to abide by an up -to -8% dedication at the time of
sub.'.ivision, in accordance with the regulations, with the
specific exception that they don't have to meet this
requirement for, i.e., the present annexation, so long as
the area is platted for residential purposes in roughly
1/2 -acre lots. In any future annexation they would agree
to abide by whatever the Planning Commission decidws in
accordance with its rules and regulations. Mr. Pulis
desires to annex to the Recreation and Water and Sanita-
tion Districts. Blake felt it was a good policy for them
to relinquish their water rights at time of annexation,
and said it could be made an integral part of the side
agreement. Annexation petition and agreements will be
presented to the Trustees at regular meeting - -a decision
will be made within 30 days thereafter. Within the subse-
quent 90 days the area will be zoned.
With no further business to be discussed, the meeting
adjourned at 4:00 p.m.
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VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION
JANUARY 30, 1870
The meeting was called to order at 3:15 p.m. in the
Manor Vail Conference Room by Chairman Gerry White.
ROLL CALL FOUND THE FALL OWING MEMBERS PRESENT:
Chairman Gerry White
Mayor John Dobson
Commissioner Robert Clark
Absent:
Commissioner John Donovan
Commissioner Dave Gorsuch
Others present: Blake Lynch, Clay Simon
I. MICROWAVE STATION AT VAIL:
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Clay Simon of Vail Associates introduced Mr. Haskell
Stratton, of Mountain Bell, to the members of the
Commission. Mr. Stratton stated that Vail is in need
of a local direct -dial telephone service; and that
the equipment he proposed would facilitate local hookup
with national commercial TV networks as well as phone
service. In line with this microwave service, he outlined
the structures that would be required: a minimum 60'
tower north of I -70 just west of the underpass, and a
similar tower near Eagle's Nest at LionsHead. Both of
these sites are considered best for their line -of -sight
advantages. Mr. Stratton stressed that the architects
designing their structures would seek approval of the
Architectural Control Committee, as well as Vail Associates
and the Board of Trustees, before proceeding with
with construction. They will comply with applicable
covenants. There was some discussion as to whether
variances should be requested on setbacks, et .3, Chairman
due to relative size of structures to lots;
White suggested that lots be enlarged the structures,
being as the nature of the construction was one time
only. The Commission requested Mr. Stratton to prepare
a formal proposal, outlining time schedules for
equipment delivery and local fabrication, and an
estimated date for local long- distance dialing
capability. At this time Mr. Stratton estimates a
maximum time of two years.
II. LIONSHEAD ZONING:
Clay Simon proposed the following changes to the
original LionsHead zoning:
A. Area south of golf course, now zoned Multi-Family;
they would lake to change to Residential. They wall
submit it as the
lt0ohannexnghensoutherlywportion, and
subsequently p
of the area to the Town.
B. Area near the golf course recently involved in
Recreation District trade. This area has been zoned
High- Density Multi - Family; they would like to rezone
no designation at all. They do not plan to
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develop this area for at least three years, due to
concentration on plans for the LionsHead area.
C. Undeveloped area of Plat 5B between Wedel Inn and
Vail Valley Road. It is currently Public Accommodations;
they would like to change to Commercial Core to
coincide with plans for a convention /transportation /etc`..,
in which floors 5 -10 would be divided into condominium
units and /or hotel rooms.
D. Site across from Holiday Inn (currently proposed ral;
municipal complex site). This is currently Ag
propose changing to High- Density Multi- Family.
E. Area just west of the Clinic. Lot F will be
reserved for the fourth phase of clinic expansion.
High�
It is currently zoned Multi- Family; should
Density Multi- Family for coherence with the adjacent
westerly area.
F. Area in the relative center of LionsHead -- currently
Agricultural; should be changed to- Commercial Core.
S Vail Associates whc sfnow zoned Residential,tshouldobe
Sandstone, which
Multi- Family.
H. They request t'
Agricultural area
public utilities
service proposed
aat conditional use be granted the
north of 1 -70 for installation of
(micro -wave direct -dial telephone /TV
in Item I above).
III. SUBMISSION VAIL ASSOCIATES OF PRELIMI
DEVEL, -- I?EN R
PLAN FOR_N'��HSIDE HT rL�T��•
OUTLINE
Clay Simon s�bmiteminha above-mentioned
Uti1 Plan
Ken Richards preliminary
consideration. Clay outlined the road grade decreases
that are planned for existing roads in this area.
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SUBMISSIONABY�n9ILrnDTE (�IailpL�onsHeadYFrst OUTLINE
iing)
Clay Simon submitted the subject Plan, stating that there
was a 9.5% total open space
Heediscussed thelva.rious.3
acres of Stream frontage.
tracts VAI proposes to dedicate - -with the stipulation
that they retain control over them for future
development as swimming pools, tennis courts, etc.
Blake asked Clay to transmit a copy of the LionsHead
covenants to the Commission for their thorough
evaluation of the Plan. Clay
anticipated easements which Vail Associates would need on
or over the tract land proposed for dedication. easement dedic ion. the
These would be: two skier bridges, and two foot bridges
chair lift to be built next year,
for pedestrians. Mr. Simon noted at this point that there
will be a separate Architectural Control Committee for
the LionsHead area, composed most probably of: one or
two architects, President of Vail ssofctheeBoardil Associatest
land planner and one of the
Trustees.
With no further business to be discussed, the meeting
adjourned at 5:40 p.m.
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FEBRUAR ? 1970
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Gerry White
in the second floor dining room at Vail LionsHead
Gondola Terminal.
ROLL CALL found the following members present:
(Planning Comm.) Chairman Gerry White
Mayor John Dobson
Commissioner Dave Gorsuch
Commissioner John Donovan
Absent: Commissioner Bob Clark
Others present: Blake Lynch, Ken Richards
(Vail Assoc.) Peter Seibert
Clay Simon
George Beardsley
Dave Penwell
Florence Keating!
I. VAIL VILLAGE ELEVENTH FILING-- NORTHSIDE HILLTOP.
Under Item (1) "Utility Easements Needed" (Richards'
letter of February 17): Vail Associates agrees that the
20 -foot access easement should be access and utility
easement. They will assure that Mr. Richards' recommeridati<>n:s
are inserted in the final plan, as will his drainage
comments. Beardsley, Blake, and Richards will agree
on a drainage plan. Regarding the roads for this plat,
some minor modifications may have to be made to bypass
some of the steeper grades. ":,ro access" restrictions
will be imposed on new owners to preclude their making
any changes to the existing roads. Blake reiterated that
we have not yet received a copy of the llth Filing
Covenants. Clay noted that although these covenants
haven't yet been typed, the only difference between
them and those of the 9th Filing is tract use. Chairman
White requested that these covenants be included with the
plat filing. Roads will be graded as soon as weather
permits. When the utilities are in and rough construction
has begun, the roads will be brought up to surface with
gravel. Some construction is planned for this year
in this area. To render this area more marketable,
there are no building requirements currently in effect.
There are single - family residential sites. Paving will be
done after 15 homes have been constructed. Red Sandstone
Road will remain under the jurisdiction of the Forest
Service. In the event that the Forest Service deals with
the State or other developers for the land adjacent
to this plat, Vail Associates would definitely take the
matter to court. At present this plat indicates that VAI
plans to provide access only to their development. The
Planning Commission will render its findings on this
Preliminary Outline Development Plan, as well as the Ist
Filing for LionsHead, as soon as Messrs. Clark and
Donovan have considered them.
11. LIONSHEAD FIRST FILING.
Clay reminded the Commission that VAI is still waiting
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for a zoning decision on Lots 8, and 9, which will be
developed as lodge sites and w f.ch they want changed to
HDMF. The Commission would prefer a PA zoning for this
area. Some discussion ensued re the validity of a
PA zone. If not valid, it should be eliminated from Vail
Village and the zoning ordinance and be replaced by HDMF.
Mr. Beardsley envisions relatively the same lodging/
condominium mix and type of village at LionsHead as we have
in Vail Village, with the additions of a Conference
Center and an elementary school. Clay Simon noted that
there will be increased density at LionsHead as there are
no residences.
(The Architectural Control Board joined the meeting at
11:00a.m. Present were Blanche Hauserman, Larry Brudick
Gordon Brittan, Rodney Slifer, Peter O'Connor, and
recorder Mary Ellen Cannif). Chairman White queried Clay
Simon on what parking areas had been established for
the LionsHead area. Clay noted that a total of 700
parking spaces are planned for. These will be divided
into long -term (day skier), short -term (shopper), and
commercial spaces. This amount is over and above
the on -site and inside - building parking. LionsHead
commercial core will provide adequate parking. Chairman
White remarked that a meeting is in order to draw up a
central core No. 2 district with appropriate parking
requirements. VAI asked the Planning Commission to app rove
the one- way,west -to -east main street. Mr. White agreed
that the present layout, as presented, was well-'done;
but the Commission could not accept a street with any
resLrictions; it would be a bad precedent to set at
uiis time. The Commission won't guarantee that it won't
be changed. He added that it is not the Commission's
intention to change the one -way direction of the street
at this time. Also discussed Baas the loop road; on the
plan it swings back noticeably far to the west. Reasons
for this are to maximize the parking area and utilize
the road as a logical land break. Also, a steep grade
is eliminated. The Planning Commission requested that
Vail Associates stake out Tract B at 50 -foot intervals;
Clay replied that this would be done. The Planning
Commission will meet Wednesday, March 4, at 1:00 p.m.
to discuss these particular matters further.
ARCHITECTURAL, CONTROL BOARD (11.:30a.m.):
Blake introduced the subject of FAR by noting that
some local citizens are disturbed that it may be too
liberal in view of future construction. After some
discussion, the Architectural Control. Board agreed to
present a petition to the Board of Trustees requesting
that the FAR be lowered.
With no further business to be discussed the meeting
adjourned at 12:20 p.m.
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MARCH 43, 1970
Meeting was called to order at 1:00 p.m. in the Manor Vail
Conference Room by Chairman Gerry White.
ROLL CALL: Chairman Gerry White
Commissioner Dave Gorsuch
Commissioner John Donovan
Commissioner Robert Clark
Absent: Mavor John Dobson
Others present: Terry ?finger
A. Random discussion ensued among the Commissioners prior
to the arrival of Clav Simon and George Beardsley. Chair-
man White noted that Vail Associates needs to provide us
with correspondence on tract land use and LionsHead core area
parking before approval of their Preliminary outline Develop-
ment flan can be extended. Draft of Commercial Core
District II will be formulated with 3 oars per 1,000 square
feet of commercial space as a parking requirement. At
2:00 p.m. Messrs. Simon and Beardsley joined the group.
On the question of parking, Beardsley noted that three lots
are planned for LionsHead: a two -tier lot for 365 cars, one
for 105 and another for 225. Chairman White informed Mr.
Simon that the commercial parking requirement would be
3 spaces per l,OOO square feet.. Lots 4, 5, 71, 81 9 and
10 will not be included in the LionsHead Commercial Core.
On Lots 7, 8, 9 and 10, the Planning Commission will zone
them HDMF but will require that a letter be submitted by
VAT showing the mix on condominiums and hotel beds; VAT
agrees to this. VAT will submit a petition for annexation
on the tenth filing (on golf course behind Dobson residence).
This area will be developed some time in the future.
B. Chairman White reviewed the zoning changes to be made:
(1) Site north of Holiday Inn will change from A
to HDMF.
(2) The eleventh filing (VAI employee lots) will
change from HDMF to MF.
(3) Golf course area southeast of Manor Vail will be
HDMF.
(4) Area west of Ptarmigan Road will change from MF
to R.
(5) Area west of Wedel Inn will be CC, with on -site
parking required. Commissioner Donovan stated that
he thinks this area should be PA; he doesn't feel there
should be any commercial zoning north of Gone Creek.
C. Discussion ensued on parking requirements at the pro-
posed convention site west of the Wedel Inn--VAI notes that
the developer does not want to install a great number of
parking spaces; Chairman White stressed the importance of
having adequate parking in this customer service area.
George Beardsley suggested taking a survey during a spring-
time peak period to ascertain the actual parking ratio
required. The Commissioners agreed that this would be
feasible.
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VAT will dedicate eve Y-
D and lots 4 and 5 CC II providing t on Tracts A and D. Vail
thing south of the utility plans for
Associates is Concerned witl� Recxer�tOvehicular travel in
the stream tract -- -they don't want any plans sub -
this area unless by permit. They want landscaping P
mitted to them for approval. VAT will dedicate Tracts anbe
D with the proviso that in case of m vgecyl th can
placed at the discretion of VAI engineers.
of
E. There was some discussion ill beeco forthcom structedgbyaV Alnfrom
Gore Creek. Retainer walls west of the Sitzmark.
the Covered Bridge to the new bridge
VAT will clean out the concrete in teeitree tbutT he don't
plan to landscape it if they
F. Warren Pulis presented detailed maps for consideration
by the Commission of his annexation application. Paving in
the new subdivision will be done after 50%
At thecendtofcthreehas
been completed or by the f
years, stubbing
will be installed to preclude excavation of Pleted. Ken
the pavement after it has plan.coMr- Pulis noted �thatdhe w is
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review his drainage study p
establishing a CommittthThereeiseas two-unit hmaximum aon
control of this subdivision-
construction; and there are presently no covenants on height
restriction.
With no further bttsir�ess to he d�.scxsspri, trP mnP�4-1.[�1� ar7jouz'ned
at 4:30 p.m.
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MARCH 16, 1970
The meeting was called to order at 2:00 p.m. in the Manor
Vail Conference Room by Chairman Gerry White,
ROLL CALL found the following members present:
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Chairman Gerry White
Mayor John Dobson
Commissioner Robert Clark
Commissioner John Donovan
Absent: Commissioner Dave Gorsuch
Also present: Blake Lynch, Terry Minger
Blake opened the meeting with remarks regarding the lack
ordinance.
of setback requirements in the current zoning
are
Off- street, back lot line, and stream setbacks
of the Commission
involved. The unanimous opinion
the time of the zoning hearing early in
was that at
April the Commission should recommend that 10 -foot rear
in of corner)
and side and 15 -foot front (and side case
be required in PA, HDMF, CSC, CC, and
setbacks should
In other words, a 15 --Foot front setback would
HS zones.
apply throughout the ordinance except in R and MF zones.
this hearing should be
Another item for consideration at
of FAR requirement. The
possible reduction
Architectural Control- Committee. has expressed a serious
the current
concern over the possible leniency of
Although the public notice will allude to the
FARs.
FAR consideration, a petition must be submitted to the
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Control Co itCommission es wiwould'
Trustees by the Architectural
The Planning
specific recommendations.
their feelings on the subject at the time
express
of the hearing; but the bulk of objection Ato existingetween
FARs should emanate from the citizenry.
Control Committee, and the Planning
the Architectural
Commission must take place before the public hearing
of both bodies
to insure understanding of the roles
in this endeavor.
brief discussion of possible replacements
There was
for Messrs. Clark and White, who are currently running
chairman
for Trustee. Should they be elected, a new
commissioner would have to be selected.
plus a new
The obvious chairman - --Dave Gorsuch - -has already
ents.be
declined the post due to his other commit
suggested
Commissioner Donovan
considered as a possible commissioner; he is quite
interested.
With no further business to be discussed, the meeting
adjourned at 3:10 p.m•
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VAIL BOARD OF TRUSTEES
APRIL 270 1970
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The meeting was brought to order by Assistant Town Manager,
Terry Minger at 7:50 p. m. in the Holiday Inn Conference
Room.
ROLL CALL found the following members present:
ABSENT:
OTHERS PRESENT:
Chairman Rodney Slifer
Commissioner John Donovan
Commissioner Robert Clark
Commissioner John Dobson
Commissioner Dave Gorsuch
Terry Minger
Stewart Brown
Trustee Clay Freeman
Charlie Bynum
I. PULIS FINAL PLAT: The following points were discussed
concerfiirig the approval of the Pulis Final Plat:
1. Attorney Stewart Brown
that the performance bond
Vl, Section Is Subsection
surety bond, and that the
in a reasonable sum would
requirements of the ordim
advised the Commission
required under Article
2 (c) need not be a
undertaking of the applicant
comply with the
3nce .
2. Evidence in support of its requested waiver of
the dedication requirement was presented by the
applicant, establishing:
(a) the relatively small size of the proposed
subdivision;
(b) adjacency of the golf course on the north,
and National Forest Service land on the south;
(c) anticipated dedication of at least 8%
of land proposed for annexation in the near
future, said land being adjacent to the land
proposed for subdivision;
(d) low density use of proposed lots nearly
k acre in size;
3. Assistant Town Manager, Terry Minger reported
that the proposed plat had been examined by the
firm of Richards- Huffstutler and that such firm
had determined such plat to be in full compliance
with the requirements of the subdivision ordinance,
except in the ommission therefrom of open space
dedication, as required under Article V, Section
6 of the ordinance.
Commissioner Donovan moved, with a second by
Commissioner Clark.
Chairman Rodney Slifer: YES
Commissioner John Donovan: YES
Commissioner Robert Clark : YES
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RESOLVED, that ap licants tender of a performance bond
in the amount of 200000-002 as its undertaking under
Article V1, Section 11 Subsection 2 (c) be, and it
hereby is, accepted in full satisfaction of the requirements
under Subsection 2(c) aforementioned, and that the bond
duly executed is hereby ordered to be made a part of
the permanent records of the Commission.
Cbmmissioner Donovan moved, with a second by Commissioner
Clark.
Chairman Rodney Slifer: YES
Commissioner John Donovan: YES
Commissioner Robert Clark: YES
RESOLVED, That the findings of Richards - Huffstutler in
respect to the plat of applicant, be, and they hereby
are, adopted as the findings of the Commission, the
Commission hereby finding that such plat is in full
compliance with the requirements of Ordinance No. 4,
Series 19702 except that such plat does not comply with
the open space dedication requirement of Article V,
Section 6, of said ordinance.
Commissioner Donovan moved, with a second by Commisioner
Clark.
Chairman Rodney Slifer: YES
Commissioner John Donovan: YES
Commissioner Robert Clark: YES
RESOLVED, That a waiver of the open space requirement
of the Subdivision Ordinance, Ordinance No. 4, Series
of 1970, Article V, Section 6, be, and the same
hereby is, granted, subject to the approval of the Board
of Trustees of the Town of Vail, as required under
said ordinance, Article V, Section 69, the board having
found, upon the evidence presented, that the granting
of such a waiver is in the public interest,-and that
the omission of open space is reasonable in respect
to the proposed use, height, area and bulk specifications
contained in the proposed subdivision.
Commissioner Donovan moved, with a second by
Commissioner Clark.
Chairman Rodney Slifer: YES
Commissioner John Donovan: YES
Commissioner Robert Clark: YES
RESOLVED, that the final plat of Vail Valley Incorporated
for the Pulis Ranch subdivision be, and the same
hereby is, approved, subject to the approval of the
Board of Trustees of land dedication agreements
contained therein as a part thereof.
11. LIONSHEAD FINAL PLAT: The following points were
discussea concerninithe approval of the LionsHead
Final Plat (Vail LionsHead First Piling):
1. Land use - -it was agreed to use lots 1 and 2
for parking. Legalities should be spelled out,
always providing parking at LionsHead. (See
Exhibit A.)
2, The Plat was presented by Bob
on Tract A. discussed. Separate
this tract is planned.
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platting on
3. Vail Associates agreed to dedicate Tract B
'to-'the Town for open space (9.2% rather than the
requirement of 8 %).
4. Tract A is to be used as open area for
recreational purposes with no building structures,
5. The Covenant Revisions for this plat were
presented and reviewed by Bob Nott.
6. In letter dated April 13, 1870, from Clay
Simon of V.A.I., they assure the Town that they
will maintain for public and private use the
westerly temporary access road to the LionsHead
development.
Commissioner Donovan moved, with a second by Commissioner
Clark.
Chairman Rodney Slifer: YES
Commissioner John Donovan: YES
Commissioner Robert Clark : YES
RESOLVED, that the findings of Richards-Huffstutler
in respect to the plat of applicant, be, and they
hereby are, adopted as the findings of the Commission,
the Commission hereby finding that such plat is in
full compliance with the requirements of Ordinance
No. 4, Series 1970, except that such plat does not
comply with the open space dedication requirement of
Article V, Section 6, of said ordinance.
RESOLVED, that applicants tender of a performance bond
in the amount of $50,000.00, as its undertaking
under Article VI0 Section 15 Subsection 2 (c) be, and
it hereby is, accepted in full satisfaction of the
requirements under Subsection 2(c) aforementioned, and
that the bond duly executed is hereby ordered to be
made a part of the permanent records of the Commission.
RESOLVED, that the final plat of Vail Associates, Inc.
for the LionsHead subdivision be, and the same hereby
is, approved.
The Commission temporarily adjourned at 8 :55 p. m.,
at which time the regularly scheduled Board of Trustees
meeting was brought to order by Mayor Pro -Tem
Thomas Steinberg.
ROLL CALL found the following members present:
ABSENT:
Mayor Pro -Tem Thomas Steinberg
Trustee John Donovan
Trustee Clayton Freeman
Trustee Garry White
Mayor John Dobson
Trustee Tod Anderson
Trustee Richard Bailey
Planning Commission Chairman Rodney Slifer reported
to the Board of Trustees that the Planning Commission
had given tentative approval to the Subdivision
Plat submitted by Jay Pulis covering land recently
annexed to the Town of Vail, and submitted for approval
by the Boardo an agreement reached between the Planning
Commission and Jay Pulis by which agreement the
Planni.n.a a-c"mi aol-n waived in its entirety the open space
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dedication requirement of Ordinance No. 4, Series of
1970, Article V. Section 6.
THereupon discussion ensued concerning the findings
of the Planning Commission in respect to such waiver
of the open space dedication requirement.
Trust66e Donovan moved, with a second by Trustee
White.
Mayor Pro -Tem Thomas Steinberg :YES
Trustee John Donovan: YES
Trustee Clayton freeman: YES
Trustee Gerry White: YES
RESOLVED, that a waiver of the open space requirement
of the Subdivision Ordinance, Ordinance No. 4, Series
of 1970, Article V, Section 6, under agreements reached
between the Planning Commission and Vail Valley
Incorporated, be, and the same hereby is approved,
the board hereby finding that such agreement has been
freely and voluntarily entered into by the parties
thereto, and is reasonable, and in the public interest.
• II.The Board discussed P oints 1, 3,41516 6 on the
LionsHead Final Plat and Trustee Donovan moved, with
a second by Trustee White, to accept the newly revised
covenants- -which included a general parking provision-- -
and to accept the dedication of Tract B by Vail
Associates, Inc., to the Town.
VOTE: Mayor Prow -Tem Thomas Steinberg:
YES
Trustee John Donovan: YES
Trustee Clayton Fveemart: YES
Trustee Gerry White: YES
The meeting was adjourned by Mayor Pro -Tem Thomas
Steinberg at 9 :15 p.m. The Planning Commission
reconveneri at 9:25 p.m., with the same members
present, and was brought to order by Chairman Radney
0 Slifer, newly appointed Chairman of the Planning
Commission as of April 27, 1970.
III. A Plat fee charge was discussed. The reason to
charge a plat fee was to enable the town to have a
full time Engineer.
1. The Town is currently submitting preliminary
plats to private engineering firms for plat
approval; the fee for this service on the Pulis
plat alone was $452.00. A suggested fee was
$10 per lot. The Town wished only to cover its
costs. It was agreed that it was for the
protection of the Town to have an Engineer. Terry
Minger suggested that research be done and presented
to the next Planning Commission meeting. Mr. Slifer
suggested that there should also be a rate schedule
worked out and presented at the next meeting.
IV. Terry Minger noted that the Petition for vacation
of Vail VAlley Drive and Ptarmigan Road will be re-
considered at a Public Hearing called by the Board of
40 Trustees at 7 :30 p.m., June 8, 1970, in the Holiday Inn
Conference Room. This petition has been denied by the
Planning Commission but is being reheard at the request
of the petitioners.
With no further business to be discussed, the meeting
was adjourned at 9 :35 p.m.
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THE TOWN OF VAIL
ATTN: VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION
Vail, Colorado 81657
RE: Vail /LionsHead First Filing
Gentlemen:
Vail Associates, Inc. has submitted for your approval a plat of
Vail LionsHead, first filing, Eagle County, Colorado. The Vail
Planning Commission has raised questions regarding a means of
access to the western portion of the lands encompassed by the
plat of Vail /LionsHead, first filing.
Vail Associates, Inc. hereby represents to, and assures the Town
of Vail, that Vail Associates, Inc. will maintain for temporary
public and private use the existing unimproved temporary access
road from the lower LionsHead gondola terminal site to the
inter - section -of Forest Road and old Highway ##6, or a reasonable
substitute therefore between such plats, until such time as
permanent roads and streets have been laid out on a plat or plats
of the land traversed by said temporary road and such plat or
plats have received preliminary approval of the Vail Planning
Commission.
The representations and assurances contained in this letter shall
not be considered or construed to be a dedication to or for public
or private use. Vail Associates, Inc. retains any and all necessary
steps, including temporary closure of the said road, to protect
and preserve its fee simple title thereto.
Very truly yours,
VAIL ASSOCIATES, INC.
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Vice Pres l dent Q G„n„_r _a4 Map4-g-�
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AREA CODE 303 476 -5601 ONE WALL STREET, VAIL, COLORADO 81657
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The meeting was brought to order by Mayor John A. Dobson at 7:50 p.m.
I. ROLL CALL found the following members present
BOARD OF TRUSTEES: Mayor Dobson
Trustee Donovan
Trustee White
Trustee Bailey
Trustee Steinberg
PLANNING,COMMISSION: Rodney Slifer
John Dobson
John Donovan
ALSO: Terrell J. Minger, Town Manager
II. CARS AND TRUCKS ON BRIDGE STREET: Mayor Dobson informed the pub-
lic present that t the purpose of this meeting was to formulate opinions
nd possible solutions to the traffic and parking problem on Bridge
treet. It has been found that those cars parking in restricted areas
re taking advantage of the privilege and delivery vehicles are en-
gaging in other activities other than those connected with deliveries.
Trustee Donovan suggested that the delivery people could be required
to observe certain delivery hours. Trustee Donovan (as a Trustee and
property owner on Bridge Street) felt that a restriction of this type
would not be a hinderance as milk, bread, other perishable items and
trash collection could be completed by 9:30 a.m. There are some
irregular deliveries who spend approximately five hours a day in Vail
(Budweiser as an example) and perhaps certain considerations could be
granted these people. Difficulties could arise from trying to re-
strict Rio Grande deliveries to specific hours. It was further suggest-
ad that a windshield displayed pass could be utilized by these special
delivery vehicles. Another bottleneck element discussed was workmen
doing work out of their trucks. They could possibly park outside the
area after delivering their tools to the location. It was also noted
that this might mean greater expense to the property owners. It was
::urther agreed that hhis type of sacrifice might be necessary in order
to maintain the aesthetic quality of Bridge street. This would
e a summer arrangement only. The Gore Creek ten minute parking zone
as discussed. If trucks park to unload it is extremely difficult to
nforce the 10 minute zone. If it cannot be kept down to ten minutes
then perhaps the solution would be to extend the zone to 30 minutes.
Mayor Dobson asked the property owners if they objected if the Town got
tough with the delivery and service people. It was the general consen -.
sus of the public and Board members present that some ty.pe of solution
along these lines could be favorably worked out. Joe Staufer commented
that if we are talking about a pedestrian village then the streets in
the core of the Town should be closed to vehicles with full support by
`V. STATUS OF POST OFFICE: Mr. Minger reiterated the consessi.ons
.lade with Vail. Associates to obtain the present land which is pre-
~ently being used to design the Municipal Complex. It had been
ppraised at a quarter of a million dollars; although it is not a
. -)mpletely ideal site no other sites.are forth coming. The Post
office fairly well committed to build this year. Mayor Dobson assured..:._-,,.
fte public that the Board had voted to go ahead some months ago afters
nsiderable deliberation;the plan being used to finance the project
Ws not a hurry up decision. A non - profit corporation type of finances
ng had been recommended by the Bond Attorneys - enabling us to see the
fonds needed to finance. Mr. Langmaid filled in the public on the
?ire Station, problems and situation-very tight plan with the loss of
.-he twenty feet of property, no room for expansion of the Fire House
)ection. Mr. Bob Nott of Vail Associates stated -that the property has
)een resurveyed and wi,3l be receiving the information in the next day
)r two --may be possible to re- evaluate the Post Office apd convince
.hem to take up less space add some extra footage to the Fire Hou
the shop owners to enforce this regulation. It was stated that the
construction of the Mountain Haus on East Meadow Drive would prohibit
the Town from enforcing as strict traffic regulations this summer as
are desired. Mr. Kindel expressed his concern about the drive through
tourists who are just driving and ignoring signs, many going wrong
way on one -way streets and driving up Bridge Street. He further queried
°ow this problem could be controlled- -more enforcement -more police "
odies on Bridge Street? Mr. Parker suggested better utilization of
the policemen we have. The traffic on Bridge Street and Gore Creek
Drive at lunch hours has been creating a problem also. Motor cycles,
cement mixers and other large, noisy vehicles roar up and down and
disturb the peace and quiet of those eating their lunch on the outdoor
patios. It was suggested that Gore Creek Drive be closed to traffic
during the hours of 11:30 a.m. to 2 :30 p .'m. and enforce a pedestrian
village at this crutial time. Mr. Kindel felt that there would have
to be a change in attitude of the people who live here to enable these
t changes and would not continge soley on enforcing the law. Joseph
°'.. �taufer suggested chaining off Core Area for the peak lunch period.
Mayor Dobson assured the public that all of these suggestions would be
taken into consideration before a final decision was made. Dale McCall
asked what measures were being taken to control the dust problem. Mr.
Minger stated that the water truck has been used - perhaps not as much
as it should be, but they endeavor to water in the morning, afternoono;
and evenings with applications of calcium chloride. Vail Associates�i�
have been oiling some of the parking areas within the core and outside.
II. CONSIDERATION OF BUS STOP LOCATION: Mayor Dobson read a letter
m Mr. $ob�iott of Vaa. Associates which allows the:Town to use the
d ticket booth and place it on the land where the direct-ory sign is
presently located. (Exhibit A) The stipulated conditions seemed fair.
Ar. Minger assured that the Town has presently exploredt, the possibility
of moving the building to the aforementioned location and the cost in
doing so. Mr. Dale McCall stated that the directory sign and map
were obsolete and had received a letter from the sign committee re-
questing that measures be taken to remedy the situation. Therefore,
-the VRA had no objections to the removal of the directory when the
Building was placed in location. Mayor Dobson informed the Board
that the Continental Trailways Company had agreed to pay rent up to
x150.00 a month.
`V. STATUS OF POST OFFICE: Mr. Minger reiterated the consessi.ons
.lade with Vail. Associates to obtain the present land which is pre-
~ently being used to design the Municipal Complex. It had been
ppraised at a quarter of a million dollars; although it is not a
. -)mpletely ideal site no other sites.are forth coming. The Post
office fairly well committed to build this year. Mayor Dobson assured..:._-,,.
fte public that the Board had voted to go ahead some months ago afters
nsiderable deliberation;the plan being used to finance the project
Ws not a hurry up decision. A non - profit corporation type of finances
ng had been recommended by the Bond Attorneys - enabling us to see the
fonds needed to finance. Mr. Langmaid filled in the public on the
?ire Station, problems and situation-very tight plan with the loss of
.-he twenty feet of property, no room for expansion of the Fire House
)ection. Mr. Bob Nott of Vail Associates stated -that the property has
)een resurveyed and wi,3l be receiving the information in the next day
)r two --may be possible to re- evaluate the Post Office apd convince
.hem to take up less space add some extra footage to the Fire Hou
Nayor Dobson asked for comments from the floor. Rodney Slifer of the
Planning Commission stated that the Planning Commission has examined
the site and discussed it with consideration to the economic problem.
The commission felt that it was a workable situation through proper
Aidesign, etc. They further felt that the Fire House problems are
ndividual from the Main Complex and the Fire House could possible be
cated at a different adjacent site. Mr. George Knox, Vail. Trail,
suggested as an alternate site the Town could obtain rights on the
Main Parking lot and combine the Municipal Complex with structured
parking. Mayor Dobson assured that the points were well taken but such
a situation would not make it possible to sell bonds - leased land.
V. CONSTRUCTION SITE PROBLEMS: Mr. Slifer reported that the condi-
tions 6T `the construction sites sho,il.d be casrsidered a menace to the
cleanliness of the Town. Materials should be confined behind a fence
r,. to hide from public view (in core area). We must start coping with
the problem before it gets completely out of control. it was queried
if Bob Mayne could haul away trash from construction sites with his
trash removal equipment. Mr. Minger stated the nuisance and trash
Ordinances are good measures to take but very difficult to enforce,
unless the Town had sufficient personnel assigned especially to enforce
them. Mayor Dobson assured that the Board would go over all problems
as quickly as possible and tighten up on the construction people.
VI. OTHER BUSINESS: Mr. Hastings reported that.the signs put up
,+since the astmmeeting were not placed in the proper locations. He
*eried the location of the future signs to be erected. Mr. Hastings
s instructed to check with Gary Knuth, Police. Chief, to expedite
"the best program.
'i,th no further business the meeting adjourned at 10;:25 p.m.
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Mayor John Dobson,
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I have discussed the matter of the Ticket Shack with Peter
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Seibert, and he is agreeable to a lease arrangement subject
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to the following general terms and conditions.
`The'lease
would be on a year to year basis; however, a can-
cellation provision should.be included to protect Vail Asso
dates in the event we sell or develop the,property.on which
the facility is located (I'm assuming that you intend to
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locate it at the site of the present directory sign).
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The cost of moving and reassembling the shack, '. together with
all maintenance costs should be borne by the Town.
-.The
Town should return the shack. to Vail Associates at the
expiration of the lease term, in good.co'ndition,:subject to
reasonable wear and tear.
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should be proper landscaping in the vicinity of the
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Vail Associates will not charge rent for the ground, and any.,
rental that the Town might be able to generate from carriers'`
such as Continental'TraiZways. would accrue to the'. Town,
And real estate taxes assessed against :the'shack,,or other
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improvements made by ,the. Town should be.,'borne by the .Town.
AREA CODS 303 476.5$01 ONE WALL STREET, VAIL, COLORADO 81657
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MINUTES OF THE VOINT MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
AND THE VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION HELD ON JULY 27, 1970
VAIL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, VAIL, 70.
The meeting was brought to order by Mayor John A. Dobson at 7:45 p.m.'
I. ROLL CALL: BOARD OF TRUSTEES:
Present: l•"ayor J1
Trustee
Trustee
Trustee
TrLrtee
Trustee
Absent: Trustee
PLANNING COMMISSION:
:)hn Dobson
John Donovan
Todd Anderson
Thomas Steinberg
Richard Bailey
Gerry White
Clayton Freeman
Present: Rodney Slifer
Robert Clark
Dave Gorsuch
John Dobson
John Donovan
II. CONSIDERATION OF VAIL LIONSHEAD PLAT, FIRST FILING, FIRST ADDITION
-- -- s - --- W_� — - - -- _._ _ .
Mayor Dobson turned the meeting over to the Chairman of the Plannit,
Commission, Rodney,Slifer, for consideration of Vail LionsHead Flat,
First Filing, First Addition- Lot #1. The drainage was previsoul.y
reviewed by the Engineer and Mr. Minger, Town Manager, and found to
be adequate drainage of storm sewers. It was noted that there ;ass.
no dedicated right of ways to the site. The land to -the west is
still unpl.atedy but, will be plated as it is developed. A letter
from Mr. Nott of Vail Associates, was read which assured that access
to this addition will be granted. This plat will be used for combin-
ation Lodge and Condominium- -the developer is Kvamme & Cunningham
Const. (Valhalla West). Tract A will be used for recreation purposes
(Swimming Pool, etc.) and Tract B will'-be open recreation area, never
to be built on. It was unanimously approved by the Planning Commis+
lion to recommend to the Board of Turstees that the Vail LionsHead
Plat, First Filing, First Addition, be added to the LionsHead annex-
ation. Mr. Robinson, Town Attorney, advised that Vail Associates
".ave not petitioned to include this land into the Districts (Vail
�ga.ter and Sanitation, Vail. Fire Protection, Vail Metropolitan Rec-
.v.eation). Mayor Dobson suggested that the addition could be approved
on the condition that Vail Associates take the necessary steps to
.nclude this addition in the Districts. It was moved by Trustee
Steinberg and seconded by Trustee Anderson to Table the matter until
the necessary steps have been taken by Vail Associates to meet with
the above mentioned requirements. After further discussion by the
Board members, Trustee Steinberg decided to withdraw his motion. It
was moved. by Trustee Steinberg and seconded by Trustee Anderson that
the annexation be approved subject to receiving a petition from Vail
Assoc _at. s to includl.e this filing in all the Districts of the Town.
This ?rotion caa.s uppi-oved by those Board members present.
VOTE: Mayor Dobson YES
Trustee Donovan YES
Trustee Anderson YES
Trustee Steinberg YES
Trustee Bailey YES
Trustee White YES
III. FINANCIAL REPORT JUNE 1970: Voucher 2935 - Francis Bush -Car Ex-
pense-$118.00--was queried. Mayor Dobson stated that the matter of
car expense for the Fire Chief came under the Management Contract
- between Mr. Bush and the Fire District. With no further questions or
discussion the financial reports for June 1970 were unanimously
approved.
IV. PRESENTATION BY MIKE SCHEIDER- REPRESENTATIVE OF COLORADO MOUNTAIN
COLD: Mr. Sc xeider ntroduce himself �o the oar an au lance.
!,Hnturn is one of three new field offices opened by the Colorado
Mountain College in an attempt to broaden the Adult Educaticn Pro -
fram. Mr. Schneider reported that he had polled people at the
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a- �L.— he public establishments in Vail to find out how many people would
be interested in such a program. Many young people were interested
in bringing the courses to Vail so they would be able to continue
thier credits towards their degrees. If five -, more people were
interested then the course would be taught. The cost will be $8.00
per credit hour and $6.00 per non credit hour ($5.00 for the course
and $3.00 for the expense of teaching the course ). If anyone has
ability to teach a course please contact Mr. Schneider to make =.'F
arrangements for a class.
V. CONSIDERATION OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE PRESENT DOG CONTROL ORDINANCE:
Mayor DobsCh reported that the Board had met the afternoan of the
27th and have come up with suggested amendments to the Ordinance which
would strengthen the current ordinance. It had further been decided
that it would not be in the best interest of the community to have
a leash law. The following suggestions of ordinance amendments were
made by the Board: Make more stringent controls by the wording
"Reasonable control and direct supervision "; increase the fines to
$5.00 for first offense --- $25.00 second offense -- $50.00 third offense- -
$100.00 fourth and subsequent offenses; if a dog bites three times
it will be banished from the Town; enforce the licensing of all dogs
within the city limits and require the proper vacinations, etc.
Mayor Dobson asked the public if this approach would be feasable
and acceptable. The public present were affirmative. Mayor Dobson
asked Mr. Robinson to put on paper an amendment to the Dog Ordinance
and asked Geo Knox to publish it in the Vail Trail.
VI. RATIFICATION OF AN AGREEMENT TO INDEMNIFY THE RAMSHORN LODGE FROM
LIABTLITY: Per. Robinson informed the Board that the Day Camp Program
sponsored by the Town had been using the swimming pool at the Rams
Horn Lodge for Swimming lessons and it was necessary i"or the 'T'own
of Vail to agree to indemnify the Rams Horn Lodge from liability in
case of a.�ident. It was moved by Trustee Donovan and Seconded by
Trustee S-�:v_i.nberg to ratify an agreement to indemnify the Rams Horn
Lodge from any Liability through the use of the swimming pool by
the Day Camp Program. The motion was unanimously approved.
VII, CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTANCE OF A_ROAD FOR MOUNTAIN STATES
TELET'HOASE�MICRO WAVE ST .T aT. Tit. Minger was not infavor of accepting
t.�e raad because the 'area .rnis presently undeveloped. At some point
the future them: will be a development in the area and at this time
,ben the road will be serving the public it would be due time to
-3cccpc the dedication of the road. Mayor Dobson asked for a poll
L.poj,i th4:, Roard: Anderson: did not wish to accept the dedication;
dial not wish to accept the dedication until the area was
,_: ?veIpp -s; Bailey: take no action at the present time; White: take
no a. -tion at the present time. It was the unanimous opinion of the
Tkouvd net to accept the dedication at the present time.
VIII JL •V TTANS2; 1,7 irCUSE ON RIGHT OF Mr. Tobbinson infQvmcd the
Board that. the ":5 iirser� House was partially located on the Right
of Way• Mr. Robinson has been negotiating with Mr. Hansen's attorney
i_n az- k to find a satisfactory solution. Mr. Hansen is unable
to oh-t,::- in a clear, Need. The Mia.yor suggested that Mr. Robinson
cont:i.�iuc ;:o discuss the problem with Hansen's Attorney and come back
to the Boe.rd with a workable solution.
IX. ROAD DEDICA`"ION BY MANOR VATL: Mr. Chax -les Gersbach asked the
Board for a decision on the acceptance of the dedication of a dead
end raod by Manor Vail. It is a 50 fooL raod which divides Manor
Vail and Manor Vail North. Mr. Gersbach was informetl by the Board
that the Town would not accept the dedication of a dead end road - -at
which time the Anholtz property is developed and the road services
the public the Town would be ti?? l l_iiig to consider the dedication.
Mayor Dobson sited the instance of the Board turning down the dcd -ica-
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t ion of the road from Vail Associates which serviced only the Moun-
ain n States Telephone Micro Wave Station.
With no further 1-us ncss the meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
11INUTES OF THE JOINT MEETING
OF THE BOARD OP TRUSTEES
AND THE VAIL PLANNING COVIIISSION �
AUGUST '$ 1970
VAIL tfUfff IPA�OEFICES
The meeting was brought to order by Planning; Commission C airman,
Rodney Slifer, at 10:15 A.$1.
ROLL CALL found the following members present:
Planning Commission: Chairman Rodney Slifer
John Donovan
_., Bob Clark j
Dave Gorsuch I '`
John Dobson
Board of Trustees. mayor John Dobson
Cerny White
John Donovan
Thomas Steinberg
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Others Present: Terrell J. Minger
Lawrence Robinson ,
Stanley Bernstein
Absent: Todd Anderson
Clay Freeman
1. SET BACK CONSIDERATION IN COWrRCIAL CORE AARFAS I AND 11: It
was explained that the present Ordinance reQU�res setback isck ri both
Core Areas (CC Area I being the Village, and CC Area II being Vail
LionsHead). ?`fir. Slifer queried the reasoning behind the set back
' requirements for the existing Commercial Core Area. He also stated
that those property owners with area to expand will be hindered by
the Ordinance and those existing buildings are already built to the
property line. r "r. tfinger commented that CC Areas I and II are two
different and distinct animals and should be treated as such. Mr.
Minger called for comments from-Mr. Gerry White--he had been on the -
Planning Commission when the Ordinance was drafted. Trustee 1rihite
stated that it was the thinking of the Planning Commission at the
11ime the Ordinance was drafted that it would act as a safety against
he problems being, experienced in CC Area I. As Trustee 11hite saw it,
he whole problem is one of density. The two existing ways of solv-
ing the problem was with setback requirements and FAR. He mentioned,
the r ce overhang, snow removal and areas where no sun could reach thus
.piling up of ice and snow which constitutes a great, problem in the
village and it was their intention to solve these problems in Commer-
cial Core Area II with the Set Back Requirements. Another considera-
tion was the.fire protection between'buildings. It was sited by Mr.
Minger that the Rosenq uiste Buildings 16 11 and the Edelwiese build -.
ing are the main propdt ties in question of the set back requirement
in Commercial Core.I. Mr. Minger sited the Gaynor 'JJiller - Mountain
Haus--as an example of the Community wrath - -when a buildi fr, is allowed.
to be built right up to the property line you must conten with con -
struction problems; materials on the street, tearing up t.e street
*he nd stoping traffic. Preservation of the stream was 41s9 taken into
onsi.deration when the Ordinance was written. Bob Clark did not feel
Ordinance should be changed as long as there is a 1.1ariancl Board
to consider individual cases. Rodney Slifer queried as to whether
property owners were notified when such decisions were made. Mr.
Slifer was assured by Trustee White that it was publicly � announced
and that there had been a sizeable representation at the �eetingb and
that Mr. Clay Simons was present to represent Vail Associates at
these meetings. It was the general consensus of the two Boards that
it was better for a building to go a story higher than to permit it
to be built right out to the street. Mr. Gorsuch felt that it was
the responsibility of the Board to look down the road some five to
' twenty years and try to set rules in the best interest of conditions
As they may come to exist and to prevent past mistakes rom reoccurr-
ing. Tor. Slifer was in favor of control through the rA, instead
of set backs. Trustee White felt that the present FAR should be re-
considered and if possible lowered. Mayor Dobson felt that it should
be a package deal with the set backs regulating the ground density
and the FAR regulating the air density. Mr. Minger presented the
Official Zoning Map and the following changes were discussed and con -
sidered: It was suggested that the FAR be 1.25 rather than 1.5 in
She Commercial Core and HDMF areas. It was further suggested that
his change be brought up at the next regular meeting of the Board of
Trustees. It was decided to have a joint meeting on Monday, the 10th
of August
II. GAYNOR TIILLER PARKING LOT QUESTION: Mr. Miller addressed the
Board an introduced !4E Gary Clark, one of the partners in the
?fountain Maus Project. Mr. Miller presented his parkin; problem in
connection with the Mountain Haus and asked the feasibility of under- -
ground parking between the Mountain Haus and the Wedel Inn with a
lease consideration. The people involved in the Mountain Haus were
'willing to pay for part of the costs in such a project. Mayor Dobson
queried the number of cars involved. Mr. Miller felt that about 40
cars could be accommodated. 14ayor Dobson stated that this land was
Dedicated Public Land and this would set a serious president as to
use of Public Land. Mr. Robinson, Town Attorney, stated that in the
terms of the Dedication, the Town does not have the right to allow
such a construction. Mayor Dobson assured that some sort of reserved
parking would be available in the New Main Parking Lot on a first -
liome, first- served basis. Mr. flinger stated that Structured Parking
ill be the most feasible answer to the problem and consideration has
een given and will be given further consideration in the near future..
Mr. Clark of the Mountain,Haus advised that there would be a gentle-
man in today who haspa, rather unique new terraced parking construe -
tion and would like to have him'look at the sites in 4uestion and
then present a more fixed plan with cost figures.
III. BUILDING CODE CONSIDERATION: Mr. Charles Bynum, Town Building _
Offieia , x EF)f feel TIM adopt on of the 1970 UBC would be ad- -
visvisable at this time; would be better timed to do so in the fall.
Mr. Bynum further recommended an amendment to the Building Code to
substitute the wording of the 1910 Code for that of the 1967 in re-
ation to kitchen window requirements. mayor Dobson a4ed fir. Robin-.6
�son to draw up an ordinance to this effect,
IV. MUNICIPAL BUILDING: Vr. Minger asked for a decision on the
Municipal Building. .r. Bernstein, Finance Director, stated that
the Town in now in a bad cash flow position and must have the Recre-
ation District money if the Town is to start the construction of the
new building this summer. The Recreation District is in dept to
the Town for a considerable amount of money and it may be necessary
�_ ° for the Recreation District to issue some Bonds in order to pay for
this indebtedness. Mr. Robinson advised that there has been no for
seeability of the Recreation District to repay the loans from the
town and that the Town had subsidized the district beyond its author-
ity. This is a very serious lending situation where there is no
means of collecting the debt. Mr. Bernstein presented his ten year
expenditure program for the Recreation District:
Plan A: To issue no bonds, the Recreation District would
have no capital to operate with and no means to.
pay its indebitness to the Town.
Plan B: Issue $100,000 in'Bonds- 4301000 to be paid to the
Town and the balance for improvements in the
Recreation District.
Plan C: Issue $150,000 in Bonds- 485,000 to be paid to the
Town and the balance for improvements in the
Recreation District. `
Within seven years, under Flan C, the Recreation District should be
.,able to pay its own way. For the seven years, the Town would con- l
tinue to subsidize the District but would be a smaller amount each
year. After the seven year period, the District could start paying?
the Town — within ten years, the Recreation District would be free
and clear. Mr. Dan Herrington of Boetcher and Co. has been contacted
and he feels lie can sell the bonds. Mr. Robinson felt that there
should be no guarantee that the Town could absolutely carry the
,jecreation District. Mr. ringer stated that he would not okay any
more monies to the Recreation District until something definite is
fettled. Mr. Bernstein will be completing the projection but at the
esent the Board should consider whether the Town :should build the
iu-nicipal Building (which continges on whether or not the debt service
money will be available). Trustee Bailey reported that he had gotten
together with Mr. Carver and Todd Anderson to take a look at the
plans and decide where corners could be cut. Trustee Bailey read the
letter from Carver stating where and how much reductions on the cost
could be. Carver felt that the cost would increase greatly if it
was bid again next year. Trustee Bailey-advised that it could be bid
...mid- winter and maybe get more mountain contracters to bid. Trustee .
Todd Anderson had recommended by phone that we rebid during the
winter and award the bid in the spring with plans to modify the bull
ing. It was further suggested that the Town could try to bid along f \`
with the Post Office Building. It was also felt that the Architects
estimates would have to be considerable higher. Poll: Trustee White
,felt that the Board should set a definite date to re -bFelt ; Trustee
Bailey felt that it should be re -bid; Trustee Donovan that it
should be re -bid; Trustee Steinberg felt that it shoul be re -bid in
mid-- winter. The schedule was set to re -bid in mid- JatYuary and award
bids by mid - March. /
V. OTHER BUSINESS: Mr. Minger reported that the new bus station will
be move over to the new location by the end of next week. Mayor
Dobson queried as to what further study of the parking situation
was desired. It was decided to discuss the matter with Vail Associ-
ates and as for reserved parking - -no overnite parking; applications
for reserved parking should be in by a set date and then.drawn by
lot. Further discussion of this subject is to be put on the agenda
for the next Board Meeting.
With no further business the meeting was adjourned at 12:45 P.F.
t' MINUTES Or THE JOINT MEETING :�-
w OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEFS
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VAIL•-PLANTNING COMA (ISSION
AUGUST 10. 1970
VAIL ELE "ENTARY SCHOOL
T. ROLL CALL: fow;d t`he -following members
_. present
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Board of Trustees: P•'ayor Dobson
Trustee Todd Andp'rson
Trustee Richard BaiieV
Trustee Thomas Steinbe g
Trustee John Donovan
f+- Planning Commission; Chairman Rodney Slifer
€ :> Joan A. Dobson
John Donovan
Dave Gorsuch
Robert Clark
Others : Terry Inge_ "• r
II. FLOOR APEA RATIO_: Mayor Dobson introduced Rodney 'Slifer
0 Chairman.�of the VaaI.Planning Commission to introduce the subject
t the Board and audience. rTr. Slifer briefed the au.c ience on the
definition of FAR and the 1.5 ratio presently used in the Core Area.
Ile further explained that after a special meeting of the Board of
Trustees and the Planning Commission it was decided to put the con-
sideration of lowering; the FAR to 1.25 before the public. Floor
Area Ratio schedules for the Commercial Core Area i was passed.to
the audience and explained by Mr. Slifer. Mr. Robert Mott, Vice-
President of Real Estate for Vail Associates, queried the effect the
reduction of FAQ' would have on LionsHead. Mr. Slifer pointed out
.. that the present set backs do affect both CC Areas I & 11 and that
any reduction of FAR will be discussed to effect LionsHead. Mr.
Slifer then called for discussion from the floor. It was noted
that all businesses received a letter to attend this meeting with
the intention of using the meeting as a sounding board so that a
deci=sion could be reached. Pfr. �!ott felt that LionsHead and CC I
.-•.o not seem to be comparable in a decision. The question of con-
zi:iering PUD (Planned Unit Development) was brought up but not con -
sidered to be of too great of importance in the matter at hand.
Matror Dobson pointed out that although the present figure of 1.53
fcr. CC I sounds great, you have to realize that there are several
buildings way under the FAIR and if they build to their maximum we
are in trouk,lF. It could be as high as a 50 percent increase if
everyone built to the maximum. t "r. Mott felt that set backs were
a very primitive method of regulating density --it had been abandoned
very.long ago with FAR adopted in its place. rIr. *finger stated that
set backs had given away to PUD's and not FAR's. He further felt
that perhaps set backs were not so necessary for sides but definite-
ly for front and back. Trustee Donovan queried the problem of what
to do with the great increase of people if it were developed to a
maximum. It would be difficult to service that many people. It was
also stated that if you have controls via set backs and FAR, you
are then able to control density and it would cause the developer
'to use a little more imagination in design. This would enable the
village to keep its aesthetics and this is what Mail is trying to
sell; which is what has given Vail its uniqueness in the past - -not
just a mountain of snow. ?zany buildings being built now are in-
consistant t-rith the idea than Dobson pointed
out that many of the f,.Ix,,21ngs which are violating thc e aesthetics
were built before the Town started puttinr restrictions into effect.
*The Town of Vail does not have any constraint on the Arch Control.
Board.-. but can only use set backs and r R as a very limited means
'restraint. It was queried if the Town could have the Arch Con -
rol Board undev the control of the Town? "r. Larry Robinson, Town
Attor»ay Stated that the Town does not have any aesthetic controls.
«44a no power to pass on aesthetics. It was the general consensus
of the Board that LionsHead should be'treated as a different situa-
tion than the Village Core Area, Mayor Dobson felt that the Arch
Control Beard has not,been'as sensitive,to the prgbl,em as the Town
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"has been. The Town has attempted to control this proble,�n by passing
• restrictive ordinances. Mayor Dobson asked the Arch Boat-d to come
E up with a policy statement. Mr. Brittan,'member of the Arch Poard,
reminded the Mayor that it was the Arch Board that initiated this dis
eussion. He further suggested that tle Board of Trustees acquaint
themselves with the provisions of the covenants of the Arch Board.
The Board ".has powers only as appointed to it by Vail Associates. Mr.
*Slifer stated that the Arch Board had recommended the reduction o the
FAR but dial not suggest a number. "r. Brittan suggested a referend
�Ir. Grosucr - sited Carmel, California, as a good example of a resort
area which has been extremely restrictive and effective in maintaining'\
its aesthetic values. mr. rarker pointed out that Carmel has es-
tablished its regulations a long time ago and the community grew
slowly. This enabled them to set a long period of prey *dent. 11r.
Gershbach suggested that perhaps we do have a PUD problem. Expansion
for shop space is do entirely► different situation than expansion for
lodging and residence nurnoses. !fir. Seibert felt thai it would be up
°g a to the Town to explain to the individuals who bought on the under-
standing that they could expand to 1.5 and now it has been reduced.
Trustees Bailey and Anderson felt that the merchants on Bridge Street
had been given adequate notice of the meeting and it is at these.pub
lic hearings that the decisions would be made accordine to the will
of the people. Mayor Dobson felt it fitting; to set another meeting
and notify all peoples concerned to attend and resolve the situation.
Therefore, consider this meeting to continue in two weeks time and
strive for a better turn out.
III. DOG CONTROL 0� IMANCE : It was moved by Trustee Bailey with a
second room- x,ustee :4n' ec arson to pass the Dog Control Ordinance, -
(ordinance. #10, series of 1970).
VOTE: Mayor Dobson YF!"
Trustee Anderson YF`
Trustee Steinberg YES
Trustee Bailey YES
Trustee Donovan NO
The motion was passed by a majority.
TV. ORDINANCE 011 SERIES Or 1970: An ordinannee amending ordinance
No. 6 oF t e or finances of the owr. of Vail, 1969 series, adopting by
reference the "Uniform Building, Code" 1967 editions changing certain
requirements for construction: and setting forth details relating
thereto. It was moved by Trustee Bailey and seconded by Trustee
Steinberg to accept Ordinance #11, series of 1970
VOTE: Mayor Dobson YES
Trustee Anderson YES
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MINUTES OF A COMBINED MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
PLANNING COMMISSION, VAIL WATER AND SANITATION
AUGUST 161, 100'_4AIL MUNICIPAL OFFICES
The meeting was brought to order by Trustee White at 2:15 p.m.
Roll Call found the following members present:
BOARD OF TRUSTEES: Mayor Dobson
Trustee Bailey
Trustee Steinberg
Trustee White
4.> Trustee Donovan
PLANNING COMMISSION: Chairman Slifer
John Donovan
John Dobson
Dave Gorsuch
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WATER AND SANITATION: Chairman Burdick
John Dobson
OTHERS: Terrell J. Minger
Larry Robinson
Mr. Ogilvie, Manager of Denver Water
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Trustee White informed the Board that he had written a letter to the
Denver Water Board requesting information concerning their plans on
water diversion from the Eastern and Western slopes. The Denver Water
Board had responded by..sending Mr. Ogilvie, Manager of the Denver Water
Board, to Vail to explain the.proposed plan. Mr. Ogilvie presented
a charted map showing the area from Frisco, Colorado down to the Eagle
River. He explained the construction of small dams connected by tunnels,.
picking up water from Booth, Pitkin, Gore, Black Gore, Red Sandstone,
Middle, Meadow, East Meadow and others. There will be gates to regulate
the amount of water let down the creeks. He remarked that they have
not to date received permission from the government to cross the Wild -
rness Area.. Slifer queried the amount of water taken from the streams.
Mr. Ogilvie said it depended on the existing water rights and the gov�
�rnments controls. Mr. Clark asked what considerations had been given
to the water needs of Vail Valley and Eagle Valley. Mr. Ogilvie
E •tated that the water will only be taken during the flood stage (April
E July) the water being diverted to the large reservoir in Dillon. Mr,
ilvie further stressed that it would be wise for Vail to develop it's
ter rights to their fullest extent keeping an eye on the new water
j Whe and be sure all Vail water rights are listed. Also make record
hange of use from agriculture to domestic use. Mr. Ogilvie querie
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capacity of the new plant on Booth Creek. Mr. Minger stated -� i
it,will have a 131 million gallon storage capacity. Mr. Ogilvi re-
sented figures of Booth Creek and other creeks flow from 1968 (Exhibits
A and B). He assured the Board that they will only tap Booth Creek
at peak flow -mid April into July for most years. It seems the Vail IJ
water Rights are senior to Denver's. Donovan felt that the decision
relating to,'the Wilderness Area boundries might prohibit this Denver __��"
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` -oroposed system. Mr. Ogilirie stated that they would be taking 70% of__
the water out of the streams from about the point of the installation.
There would be 12 roads into the areas for construction. ese would
be used as service roads and the uae of them would be work d out with
the Forest service. There are presently drill holes on th other side
of Vail Pass with proposed plans for drill holes on this side- -
*rveyors are presently in the area. Mr. Minger requested copies of
e maps. The deadline for objecting to water rights seniority is
ptember 10th. It was suggested that Mr. Ken Wright could be�asked
to examine and report. Mr. Ogilvie suggested that the Town file a
blanket objection subject to time to investigate. Mr. Minger'stated
that Vail Associates own most of the Water Rights and quer ed as to
whether the Town should try to obtain them. Mr. Ogilvie suggested at.�
it was best for the Town to have the rights in their hands and then
able to determine their best use. The Town should also demonstrate t;X. ii
the court their firm intentions to develop and use the Water Rights.
`•:: .,Mr. Ogilvie sited Estes Park as an area where diversion project has
been in effect since the 1950's and has increased the recreational
facilities therefore drawing people-into the area. There would be a 1
reservoir created on Piney Lake and this would create a telry larg -C anA
close recreation area to Vail.
The Board expressed their appreciation to Mr. Ogilvie for his informa-
tion and willingness to be honest about the intentions of the Denver,
Water Board. Mr. Ogilvie assured the Board that he would be very
happy to answer any questions which Vail might have in the future.
'th no further business the meeting was adjourned at 3:46 p.m.
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Lionshead.
MINUTES OF THE JOINT MEETING
of
THE' BOARD OF TRUSTEES
AND
VAIL PLANNING COMrAJSSION
meeting of the Board of Trustees and the Vail Planning
was held on September 16, 1970, at 1:30 P.M., at Vail
The following Trustees were present:
Mr. R. Bailey
Mr. J. Donovan
Mr. T. Anderson
Mr. C. White
Dr. T. Steinberg;
The following, Commissioners were present:
Mr. R. Slifer
Mr. n. Clark
Others present werei
rir.
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Mott
Mr.
Mr.
G.
T.
Beardsley
Minger
Mr.
L.
Robinson
The meeting was called to order by Planning Commission Chairman,
Rodney Slifer.
"r. Slifer requested that the Board of Trustees honor the FAR
moritorium requested by Vail Associates with respect to LionsHead,
in developing additional facilities and to evaluate LionsHead
FAR's separately.
There have been two public hearings on the subject of FAR's and
there will be another' pul-11 i r hearing. T -hp Board of Trustees will
make a decision shortly. The lowering of the PAR's to 1.25 com-
mercial core, 1.0 public accommodations and hi- density Mr; multi-
family and residential zones were not considered by the Planning
Commission. It was noted that public opinion is "in favor" cif
lowering or simply "not caring".
Bob Not and George Beardsley stated that Vail Associates would be
agreeable to the above FAR. reduction in general, and pointed out
LionsHead's density control was already compatible with proposed
FAR's. However thev felt lower FAR's also require a planned unit
approach option. Density was discussed with the ability to use a
planned unit approach.
It was agreed that guidelines are definitely needed for a planned
unit. A Plan Unit Ordinance would have provisions where FAR
credit is given for walk -ways, pedestrian space, etc. A defined
set of FAR perimeters, depending on zoning, is a definite need.
After achieving certain ends, provisions for credit for increased
FAR under PUD will be established. Certain problems were cited:
Too big a development for one developer (could cause a credit and
control problem ). A proposed solution was to sell part to one
builder, not exceeding the FAR ratio. It was asked,.what
happened to the first PUD? There is no PUD in ordinance, there
was a problem on submittal having to do with the legal aspect$b
control and possion; and therefore, the PUD was left out of the
ordinance. It was also asked if the PUD is usually under one de-
veloper? Only planning and land control is under the control
one developer.
It was agreed that once a plan is submitted, it is irrevokable,
can not be changed technically once started, and stays as defined.
Parking areas should be committed to a specified location. The
builder must abide by all plans from beginning, plans must be
binding ---- unless builder resubmitts entire concept. Building per-
mats should be issued only to those complying to all regulations.
•' It is the intention of Vail Associates in setting up a PUD to
keep all development sites cohabitable. Conditions of PUD must
be strict enough to govern everyone, in view of future development
problems. Mr. Minger stated that such a PUD ordinance could be
written easily by January 1, 1970. Mr. Beardsley stated that the
approximate division of development will be. 1/3 of LionsHead,
Commercial Core II 1/3 areas such as Dudley's site, condominiums
and high - density family residences; and 1/3 public sites to lodge
sites. It was agreed that no PUD at present is needed in Lions-
Head, but Vail Associates should work as though one is in existence.
When the FAR is considered in the next six weeks, the Commercial
Core II should be treated as 1.25. Mr; Slifer asked what alter-
natives for PUD would be offered. Mr. Slifer suggested that in
special cases, special considerations should be given. It was
asked what the minimum size of a PUD to be developed is? Ten
acres was mentioned, but five acres, plus or minus, was thought a
more realistic figure. Each project should be zoned as it is now.
There should be a definite zoning district on each niece of prop-
erty. A planned unit should be viewed as a blanket placed on
already existing units which can not be changed in height or densi-
ty. It was resolved by Vail Associates and the Planning Commission
to make 1.25 FAR ratio for Commercial Core II and 1:1 PAP for
Public Accommodations and HDMF in LionsHead as well as the present
core. Mr. Mott asked that he be notified immediately of any changes
in FAR theory by the Town.
It is still unsettled as to the cost and development responsibili-
ties to be divided between the Town of Vaal and Vail Associates
regarding landscaping of 5 -B. It was mentioned that Mr. C. Simon
had had negotiations with the Town on improvements of the land, but
that nothing definite had been established. Mr. r ,Iinger restated
his high concern over Town expenses in regard to this project due
to budget allotments. Vail Associates replied that they will mail
financial figures as soon as possible to Mr. Minger. Vail Assoc.'
costs have been previously fixed by private agreements, and Vail
Associates is responsible for a $70,000 worth of improvements.
nrtr. Mott assured everyone that [Tail Associates is working for the
good of the Town and for working harmony.
Plans for the baseball field, ski jumpm, soccer field, etc. in-
volves Vail Associates, the Recreation District, Nail Ski Club,
and the Town of Vail. The Program is presently in progress. "4r.
Gauge Davis is working out the plan on behalf of Mr. Beardsley and
Vail Associates, and in a few days an official plan should be in-
hand.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 3:00 P.M.
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OF
VAIL PLANNING COWISION
AND
(VAIL LOOALLLBQNBR 0rCEi9ST6EAUTH0RITY)
The meeting of the Vail Planning Commission and the Vail Board
of Trustees was held on Monday, October 12, 19700 at 7:40 P.M.,
at the Vail Elementary School.
The following Planning Commissioners were present: Messrs. Clark,
Donovan, Slifer, and Mayor Dobson. The following Trustees were
present: Messrs. Anderson, Bailey, Donovan, Freeman, Steinberg,
White, and Mayor Dobson. Others present were: Messrs. Bernstein,
Vail's Finance Director, Minger, hail's Town Manager, and Robinson,
Vail's Town Attorney.
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Dobson.
Guest speaker, Harold Milsap of the Soil Conservation Service,
presented a short talk on "The TJise Use of All of Our Resources."
He noted Vail's lack of participation at the Five - County Council
Meetings held in Glenwood on the fourth Thursday of each month.
At Air. Milsap's suggestion, Mayor Dobson appointed Trustees Dono-
van and White to take an active part regarding these meetings.
Commissioner Slifer outlined the plat of Vail Village, Ninth
Filing*, which was put before the Planning Commission for consid-
eration of certification. It was moved by Commissioner Donovan,
and seconded by Commissioner Clark, to accept the plan as submitted.
It was then moved by Trustee Donovan, and seconded by Trustee
Freeman to accept said plan as submitted to the Board of Trustees.
The Board voted unanimously on the motion.
Commissioner Slifer outlined the detailed proposed amendments to
the Vail Zoning Ordinance (reference letters to the Board from
.P. Nott and R. Slifer). It was suggested that Rodney Slifer's
letter should have the wording "less than aLthirty -day period" in
ARTICLE I - SECTION 5. Commissioner Slifer concurred with the
additional specification. Because of a fifteen -dav publishing
notice date, the amended ordinance will be put before the board
of Trustees on Monday, November 9, 1970.
In consideration of a Retail Fermented Malt Beverage License
0.2 beer only) for K 6 R Casino, Inc., it was noted that all
applicable materials were received and fees were paid. Sergeant
Crag-head gave a report on investigation of the applicant, find -
ing no discrepancies. One letter of protest, from Pepi Gramshammer,
was received by the Board of Trustees against the applicant.
Stewart Brown, the applicant's lawyer, presented Exhibit I (a
four -page petition of approximately one hundred signatures in favor
of the application). Leonard S. Ruder was sworn in and testi-
fied in favor of the applicant, stating his concern for the lack
of entertainment facilities for the ages of between le and 21. The
Board of Trustees has up to a 30 -day period to make a decision,
and will notify the applicant of its decision within that time.
`' In consideration of a Hotel - Restaurant Liquor License for Cokan
Enterprises, Inc., it was noted that all applicable materials were
received and fees paid, except for the lease. An unsigned copy
of the lease was submitted to the Board. Sergeant Craghead gave
a report on the investigation of the applicant, finding; no dis-
crepancies. Three letters of protest, from Lee Shepardson, Pepi.
Gramshammer, and P. A. Cramerus were received by the Board of
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Trustees against the applicant. Ronaid Zall rep*%eseAted Cokan
Enterprises, Inc. and presented Exhibit l (a fivo --page petition
of approximately one hundred twenty-five signatui~es in favor of
the application). Charles Rosenquist, PLO. Box 886, Vail, Colo.,
was sworn iii and testified on behalf of the applicant, stating
that the construction company developed the building according to
the master plan of George Beardsley, Vail Associates, which desig-
nated restaurant space. Robert H. Mott, Real Estate, Vail Associ-
ates was sworn in and testified on the clarification of C. Rosen -
quisib statements, stating that the earliest plan was drawn about
the first of 1970 and that there was a "Gentlemen's Agreement"
between the lessee and the lessor as to following the schematic
plan. Peter Switzer, 225 S. Main, Rockford, Illinois was sworn
in and testified, stating that the lease is not contingent in any
way on obtaining the Liquor License. Robert C. McClure, P.O. Box
722, Vail, Colo. was sworn in and testified for the applicant
(himself), stating his opinion of a definite need in the Town of
Vail for more and top quality restaurants. George Ward, P.O. Box
251, Vail, Colo. was sworn in and testified on behalf of the
applicant, stating that he felt the reasonable requirement of the
Town of Vail had not yet been met with respect to top quality
restaurants. Byron D. Brown, P.O. Box 547, Vail, Colo. was sworn
in and testified on behalf of the applicant, stating that he too
felt that the reasonable restaurant requirements of the Town of
Vail had not yet been met. Ron Riley, P.O. Box 355, Vail, Colo.
was sworn in and testified against Cokan Enterprises, Inc., stat-
ing that he felt Vail is already over -- saturated with restaurant/
liquor licenses. Lee Shepardson, 1496 Bellevue, Washington, was
sworn in and testified against the applicant, stating a proposal
that an in -depth study be made to determine Vail's real need of
more restaurant /liquor licenses, and until then a freeze of such
grants be enforced. Pepi Gramshammer, P.O. Box 506, Vail, Colo.,
was sworn in and testified against the applicant, stating his con-
cern of over - saturation in Vail of restaurant /liquor licenses and
the inequality between the rate of growth and the restaurants in
the Town of Vail over the past year. The Board of Trustees has
up to a 30 -day period to make a decision, and will notify the
applicant of its decision within that time.
The Financial Reports of July, August, and September, 1970, were
read and approved as submitted.
Trustee Anderson motioned that the Resolution regarding Amendment
No. 3 (Horne Rule) to the Colorado State Constitution be adopted.
The motion was seconded by Trustee Donovan, and voted unanimously
by the Board.
+4r. Robinson, Vail's Attornev, recommended the Town's vacation of
the right of way along I. Hanson's house. It was noted that mr.
Robinson would have an ordinance ready at the next Town Meeting.
Trustee Donovan motioned the adopt? .on Of Ordinance No. 13 (Series
of 1970), an ordinance authorizing the borrowning of $501,000 for
the purpose of supplying a temporary deficiency in the revenue for
defraying the current expenses of the Town of Vail, and setting
forth details relating thereto. The motion was seconded by Trustee
White and voted unanimously by the Board.
After a brief discussion with mr. D. McCall, a motion was made by
Trustee Donovan to adopt the Resolution relating to NO TIUVTI *TG in
the Vail Valley. The motion was seconded by Trustee Freeman and
voted unanimously by the Board.
A motion to appoint Anne Hogan and Nevin Nelson as Deputy Town
Clerks was moved by Trustee Donovan, seconded by Trustee Freeman,
and voted unanimously by the Board.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 12:40 A.M.
October 13, 19 70 .
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AGENDA
VAIL BOARD OF TRUSTEES
AND
VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION
CONVENE AS VAIL PLANNING'COMMISSION
I. Consideration of plat of Vail Village, Ninth Filing.
I'l. Recommendation by Vail Planning Commission on certain
amendments to the Vail Zoning Ordinance.
CONVENE'AS VAIL LOCAL LIQUOR LICENSING AUTHORITY
I. Consideration of a Retail Fermented Malt Beverage License
(3.2 beer only) for K .E R Casino, Inc.
II. Consideration of a Hotel -- Restaurant Liquor. License.
CONVENE AS VAILWARD OF TRUSTEES
I. Consideration' of financial reports
II. Consideration of a resolution regarding an amendment to
,Colorado State Constitution.
III. Consideration of the vacation of a portion of Hornsilver
Circle.
IV. Consideration of.Ordinance No. 13 (Series of 1970).
V. Consideration of a Resolution relating to NO HUNTING
in Vail Valley.
.VI. Appointment of Deputy Town Clerks.
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b The Town of VAIL, Colorado
Box 631 • Vail, Colorado • S1657
Telephone 303 475-5613 j
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VAIL BOARS OF TRUSTEES
VAIL, COLORADO
DEAR BOARD MEMBER:
PLEASE BE INFORMED THAT THERE WILL BE A BOARD OF
TRUSTEES MEETING AT THE VAIL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ON MONDAY,
OCTOBER 12, 1970, AT 7:30 P.M.
YOUR ATTENDANCE -WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATED.
ANNE HOGAN
TOWN OF VAIL
SECRETARY
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The Board of Trustees
Town of Vail
Vail, Colorado
Gentlemen: €
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.This is to confirm the position of Vail Associates, Inc.
with respect to the Town's proposed floor area ratio re-
ductions.
According to our understanding you are considering making
the following reductions both in the core and at LionsHead.
Existing Revised
Zoninq District F.A.R. F.A.R.
Commercial Core II 1.5 to 1 1.25 to 1
Public Accommodations 1.5 to 1 1 to 1
High Density Multi -- Family 1.5 to 1 1 to 1
We are in agreement with and strongly endorse these pro-
'
posed.reductions. Our endorsement, however, is condi-
tioned on the development of a viable Planned Unit Distract
which would be incorporated into the Zoning Ordinance in
conjunction with the reduced F.A.R. provisions. In addi-
tion we would expect that the reductions would not be made
retroactive to include sales made by us prior to the effec
tive date of approval by the Board of Trustees.
We consider the major issue in developing a Planned Unit
District to be an acceptable formula for determining an
F.A.R. bonus. The bonus would be in excess of that estab-
lished for existing zoning and would be a function of that
portion of the total land area set aside for open space,
pedestrian walks, and other common areas benefiting the
general public.
AREA CORE 303 476 -5601 ONE WALL. STREET, VAIL, COLORADO 81687
MINUTES OF TFE MFFTING
of
VAIL BOAPD of TRUSTFES
The meeting of the "ail Board of Trustees was held on Monday,
November 9, 1970, at 7:50 P.M., at the Vail Elementary School.
The following Trustees were present: Messrs. Bailey, Donovan,
Freeman, Steinberg, White, and Mavor Dobson. Others present were:
n "essrs. DiMiceli, Vail Police Chief, Minger, Vail Town-Manager,
Robinson, Vai.l Town Attorney, and Slifer, Chairman of the Vail
Planning Commission.
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Dobson.
Robert Parker introduced Richard Peterson, from Denver, as the
new president and chief operating; officer of Vail Associates, Inc.
The Board considered an ordinance amending Ordinance No. 7
(Series 19 69) and ordinance No. 8 (Series 1970). Robert Nott
suggested a Planned Unit District within the framework of the
ordinance and that the real problem is the original ordinance
being too p ' rmissive. Mr. Minger stated that a rough outline of
the PUD was intended by January 1, 1971. Stweart Brown, repre-
senting Hans [&xeibel, asked for a clarification of the reason for
the deletion of ARTICLE II., SECTION 1., (c). The de-
letion of subsection (c) limits the number of families to which
a dwelling can be rented. Robert Parker suggested that the or--
dinance be amended to read limits of four or five persons, maxi-
mum, to one family unit, with one kitchen, and two baths--allow-
ing two units per lot. Gaynor Miller suggested the ordinance be
written in such a wav so as to effect that all future buildings
must go to single family. Mayor Dobson stated that the discussion
of the definition of ramify (3) was tabled and would be
cFTs eed
berrefrr
back to the Planning Commission for further study.
by Trustee Donovan, seconded by Trustee r °?hite, and voted unanimously
by the Board to adopt ordinance No. 15 (Series 1970) excluding
ordinance No. 7 (Series 1970) APTTCLF I., SECTION 5., Family (3).
Mayor Dobson introduced Vail's new Police Chief, Michael C. DiMiceli.
The Board discussed the method of allocation and transferability
of the parking permits of the main parking lot. Mayor Dobson
tabled the discussion, stating that the Board of Trustees would
convene and affect an acceptable solution within 48 to 72 hours.
Mr. Minger stated that he would lake to budget several years' reve-
nues to include an in� -depth study of structured parking in Vail
to determine cost, economic feasibility, and who would build and
where. Mr. Minger stated his intent to bring this project before
the Board for their consideration. The Board voted unanimously to
accent said study.
Their being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.M.,
November 9, 1970.
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AGENDA
VAIL BOARD OF TRUSTEES
I. CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE
NO. 7, SERIES 1969, AND ORDINANCE NO. 8, SrRZES
1979.
II. APPOINTMENT OF NF9 POLICE CHIEF
III. DISCUSSION OF MAIN PARKING LOT
IV. REPORT ON STRUCTURED PARKING
A-,o d The Town of VAIL, Colorado
Box 631 • Vail, Colorado • 81657
Telephone 303 475 -5613
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November 5, 1970
BOARD OF TRUSTEES
TOWN OF VAIL
VAIL, COLORADO
PLEASE BE INFORMED OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE TOWN
OF VAIL BOARD OF TRUSTEES ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 1970,
AT
7:30 P.M., IN THE VAIL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
YOUR ATTENDANCE WILL BE APPRECIATED.
TERRELL MINGER,
TOWN MANAGER
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A. special meeti.nr, of the Poard of Directors of the Vail Flanninq
Comri_ssi.on was held at 11:00 A.M. , on 9ednesdav, December g, 1170.,
in the Town office of Vail. The following* Directors, consti.tut ,
ing a nuorum were present,
Rodnev Slifer, Chairman
Robert Clark
Mayor John A. Dobson
Others present were "essrs. K. Pi,chards , Town of Vai3. engineer,
R. NTott, Vail .Associates, Inc. Real estate, T. r "inger, Town
14anager, and L. Robinson, Town Attornev. .
The meeting T4as called to order by Chairman Slifer. Mr. Mott
stated that this meeti,na was a planning nresentati on of Vail
LionsFead, 2nd and 3rd filing, 141.th the presentation of nre-
liminary Platt maps in an effort to 7et a response of General
feeling reg,ardiUg said raps and in ar effort to set definite
renuirements Dri.or to final. submission of sai.d mans. The nla.tt
maps presented 4, -lere the most_recently rev•.sed of the master plan.
Mr. 1,Tott also noted that the cl.angps made in tb.e rr±aster. plan
(2nd and 3rd fi..lin{y) created, yin essence, more c.T)en land.
Favor Dobson stater. that it was his feel. i np, , and rsrobably the
feeling, of the Board, that it ;s very imnortant to continue
towards the de.dicati.on of the comDlpte Fore Creek area.
UT)on a request by " "r. Ming,er that before the Vail Plannin.q Com-
mission receives the final Platt, that the Planni.nr* romni.ss:i.on
have some -indication as to what is going to he public land., �Ir.
4ottoffered an acceptable sug,gesti.on that trail Associates, Tnc.
draw up a letter describing_ those parcels to be dedicated to
public use.
The following v,zere desisgnated as r_eedina further definition
1. Fasements (2nd and 3rd fi.lings).
2. Streets on and adjacent to the tract (2nd and 3rd filings).
3. TTtili.ties on and adjacent to the tract (2nd and 3rd filings)
it . Drainage condi.t i ons on the tract ( 3rd filing)--
5. other condit,.ons on adjacent 'land (2nd and 3rd filings)'
6. Zoni.n7 on and adjacent to the tract (2nd and 3rd filings)
7. Sites, if anv, to be dedicated or reserved for public
use (2nd and 3rd fili.ngs).
"nr. . Pichards w4.11 have the Dlatt man in his office and will con....
tact the necessary agencies for review and comment.
After a discussion of the subdivision rePulat4on relating to road
construction, it was unan .mous7.v deci.ded that Uai l Associates,
Tnc. should submit a performance bond without sur-oty.
Tt T.Tas sta.ted and anproved by all those present, that this trail.
Planning Conmission special meeting reviewed the nrel.imi.nary
nlatt (2nd and 3rd f7.lings) outlining improvement /definition
specifications to be submitted as soon as possible to the next
1&PlanninF Commission meeting, (to he determined upon recei.Dt of
modif from Vail Associ.ates, Tnc.) at which time the
thirty -dav waiting, period shall commence.
There was no other business to come before the Poard, and the
Chairman adjourned the meeting, at 12 -, 3() P.".
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