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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1973 Planning Commission MinutesMINUTES O:F RE=GULRR MEETING ' TOWN OF VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION August 9, 197.3 The regular meeting of the Planning Commission was called to ' order at 2:00 p.m. on August 9, 1973. The following members were present: Dave Sage Jen Wright Hans Weibel. gill Hanlon Gordon Pierce Also present were: Fred Otto Peter .Se i bert Don Almond Diana Toughiff ~. Gordon Pierce made a presentation of the proposed snow-making equipment building adj.acent.ta West Forest f2oad. R Conditional Use Perini t i s required for th i s. type oaf use, i n' an area. zoned . agricultural. The proposed building has been changed sub stantially since the first presQntation: to the Town Council. The proposed building: is now -a pproxirnatel.y 6O.:per cent below finished grade and the roof is covered with so'd;: the's'ito is heavily landscaped. The Planning Commission will recommend approval of the Conditional Use Permit wi~-h the following recommendations for consideration by the Town Council. I. Rll.landscaping must be completed by July 15,.1974. . The Planning Commission agreed to accept a copy of the contractual agreement being prepared for several neighboring property owners in lieu of a performance bond. 2, If feasible, the building should be rotated' slightly clockwise. 3. Dirt #or berms and roof should be in place this -fall ~~ so it can settle over the winter and. so'd can be done.. early in the Spring of 1974. 4. Vail Associates has agreed to paint .skier bridge as part of the agreement with property ow-Hers. V. R. has asked the Planning Commission to suggest a paint solar and `the proposed aspen green. 5, Proposed trees are aspen and spruce. A more complete Landscaping plan must.be submitted for app.rowa!'by the Design Review Board. 6. If the building is expanded in the future, the wall toward Forest Road should be faced with stone, 7. The Planning Commission feels .that a gravel driveway is more appropriate than asphalt on the proposed .site. MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING PLANNING COMMIS510N August 9, 1.973 Page 2 Ey r: 8. No portion of the bicycle path should be used a5 access to the proposed building. The second item on the agenda was a review of the Vail West Ridge Subdivision sketch plan located on the Elliot property in West Vail. The Planning Commission voted to make a very strong statement recommending disapproval to ti3e Eagle County Commissioners and the County Planning Commission; The following items were listed as specific reasons for disapproval: I. Rll new subdivisions should be held until Eagle ,County can pass their master plan and zoning. 2. An environmental impact report should be required for this extensive a subdivision. 3. Density is,much too high far the area and the site. It exceeds l:l. 4. Water and sewer facilities for this many people should be given careful consideration, 5. Only one access road: is proposed for the entire site, and it is in excess of 8~ grade in some places. 6, Approximately 1200 parking spaces would be required, for the 750 units proposed and the steepness of the site would preclude parking on much of the site without extensive cut and fill. Parking lots would cover approximately 122 acres o~f Land, The final item on the agenda was a preliminary presentation by Levis Pennock for a conditional use Permit to allow a co i n--operated I aund ry i n Commerc i a l Core t i n the V~a i t 2 I Building.- The Planning Commission found no particular problem with the location and it .presents n.a parking problem. Odor and lint from.the dryers are:"vented to the roof. d M I Ni.iTP5 OF REGULAR MEFT I NG TOWN OF VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION August 16, 1973 The re ular meetin of the Plannin C g g g ommission was called to order at 2:00 p,m. on August 16, 1973. The following members were present: Dave Sage Gordan Pierce Hans Weibel Jen Wright Bill Hanlon Merv Lap i n Also present were: Fred Zook, Mountain Bell - Carl Oppenheim, Mountain Haus First on the agenda was a request far a parking variance from M.auntain. 13e11 to allow five parking spaces to back improperly onto West Meadow Drive adjacent to the Holiday House, ~, The Planning Commission has recommended to the Town Council the _` disapproval of the subject variance for the following reasons: I . The use wo~u I d create a' strong hazard. situation for' .:pedestrians and bikes moving along West Meadow i7rive, 2. l f corner were stra i ghtened ~ out. fio :match p roperty i- i ne, the l arge fire trucks would have difficulty negotiating the c.or~ner, 3, Ambulances moving along West Meadow Drive would also encounter cars backing onto the Drive. , 4. There would be a possible danger to...school chi,ldre:n:'wa.lking along the pedestrian path on the way to'schoo[. ' 5, Gordon Pierce felt we should study the Master Plan carefully to determine if the proposed use and .landscaping fits into the scheme.. 6. The Planning Commission felt that this is ah inappropriate use for the building even though the zoning ordinance allows it. Tile Planning Commission voted to delay a decision until a special- meeting called for Monday, August 20, Mr. Zook agreed with this decision, ~ Mr. Oppenheim from the Mountain Haus then met with the Planning Commission to determine what affect the .master plan and pedestrian concept would have on the access for unloading at his Lobby, On August S, 1973. he had written a letter to Terry Minger, which letter w:as referred to the Planning Commission, Mr. O~penheim stated that Terry had assured him that access to his building would not be cut off, but feels that the Master Plan does-just that, Mr. Qppen.heim explained that his big-pest problem is the large groups of people who arrive by chartered bus. He feels it would be impossible to provide for transportation of luggage and skis for this many people by electric cart or other means from the Transportation Genter. Gordon Pierce suggested a possible solution to the bus problem by using a 25' strip of land directly east of the Mountain Haus. This piece of property is owned by Vail Rssociate5 and an agreement would have to be worked out. Mr. Oppenheim's biggest object'iori is that he feels. he is being pedestrianized before the Core area, If it were done on the same time schedule, he would have no problem with it. T'he Planning Commission felt that a allow the buses access and possibly solution could be worked out to for the unloading of autos. ~ r t ~ . Secretary for the P arming Commission 1. =.~:w MINUTES OF SPECIAL MEI=TING TOWN 01= VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION August 20, 1973 Commiss.iort The Planning met~fior a. special meet,ing.at 2=:00 p.m. , on August 20, 1973, The following members we re present, Dave Sage Gordon Pierce BiII Hanlon Jen Wright Hans Weibel Merv Lapin A Special meeting of the Planning Commission convened at 2:00 p.m. to further consider the application for a parking variance from Mountain Bell. The Planning Commission again reviewed the facts pertaining to the variance request and the Master P;aan. The guidelihes in the .Zoning ordinance were ca refully studied and it was determined that the proposed varian ce would create a hazard.. The Planning Commission voted unanimously to recommend denial of the variance. ~, Secretary for the Plar~fng Commis.ion t, i~ -~ ,~ 1 MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING TOWN OF VRIL PLANNING COMMISSION August 23, 1973 ` The regular meeting o.f the P { a`n`n i ng~ Gomm i ss i on was called to order at 2:00 p.m. on August 23, 1973: The fallowing members were present: Dave Sage Gordon Pierce Merv Lapin Bill Hanlon Flans We i be I Jen Wright Also present were.: Steve Meyer David Collins Mr. Steve Meyer came before th.e commission with a request for the approval of his proposed house in Booth Creek. The Planning Commission agreed to sit as the Design Review Board on this matter since delaying until the formation of. that board September fS would have created a hardship an Mr. Meyer. The house shown. was of Log cabin character and the following decision was made. Meyer is to present the Planning Commission with a copy of the approval from the Vail Associates Architectural Control Committee. With that approval in hand., the Planning Commission, acting as the Design Review Board, wiil give approval to the house. There being no further business, fihe meeting was adjourned. • , Secretary fior the P'lanni Commission ,~ ~i ~..- ~;, - ;, _ .=: ~. .. :~ MINUTES OF R1=GULAR MEETING PLANNING COMMISSION August 30, 1973 The regular meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 2:00 p.m, in the Conference Room of the Town of Vail Municipal Building. The following members were present: Dave Sage, Chairman Jack Fritzlen Gordon Pierce Jen Wright Bill Hanlon Hans Weibel Merv Lapin Others present: Tom Korchowsky Louie Pintkowski Ron Riley Diana Toughill Jim Lamont The first items on the agenda were review of Eagle County sub- division requests. The owner of Lot 19, Block 9, Vail Inter- mountain Development Subdivision has asked for an exemption from the subdivision requirements in order to subdivide a resi- dential lot into two pieces. The Vail Punning Commission rec- ommended to the County that all divisions of property be required to go through the normal subdivision procedure rather than be exempted from the regulations. The Planning Commission feels that exemptions which would allow lots smaller than required would set a bad precedent for future development as this in effect increases densities. The second subdivision reviewed was another exemption similar to Lot 19. Mr. Shapiro who owns Lot 14, Bighorn Subdivision, Second Addition has requested an exemption from the subdivision regula- - Lions in order to subdivide a duplex lot. The same recommendations were made by the Planning Commission as on Lot 19. The Planning Commission did not review the Cedar Point Townhouses in the Heather Vail Subdivision as it was resubmitted with a new name, previously disapproved by the County. It was recommended to Eagle Counfiy that the subdivision be again disapproved on the same basis as before. The final subdivision reviewed was the proposed Lions View project. The Planning Commission recommended that the subdivision not be approved as submitted for the following reasons: The density is far too great -- 33 units per acre or a F.R.R. of appraximateiy 1.85:1.0. Recreational amenities have not been provided for the project which contains 54 units which are all divisible into two units. The park shown on the plat is not on the subject property, but belongs to someone else. The Planning Commission feels that the architecture is not suitable for the mountain area because of the flat roof with ventilating fans and the portholes which would allow access for blowing snow. The building is too urban for the mountain setting. The biggest .../2 Minutes of Regular Meeting .~.. August 30, 1973 Page 2, 1973 - objection to the subdive•sion-was the access to the parking which ';.~, requires a bridge across Red Sandstone Creek. This is the. only greenbelt area in this section of .West Vail. and shouldn't .be used for roads and bridges. Technical problems noted by Kent Rose were also included in the letter to Eagfe County, (c:opy attached). The Planning Commission then convened as the i]esign Review Board, '. The first project reviewed was the remodeling ofi Vali--Hi Books and Things into a restaurant and bar to b.e. a part of The Slope. Ron Riley, Louie Pentowski and Tom Kor.chowsky presented. their plans to the Planning Commission. The following a.re suggestions made by Planning Commission for possible improvement of the. proposed change, A letter of agreement on-the parking must be signed by F2on Riley committing The Slope to..purc-hale the necessary spaces in the Transportation Center. 6-h' was requested that the stain color and awning design and color be submitted for approval. The lights on posts are not in scale with others in the area and it was Suggested that they be attached to the wall on the ' front ei.evation, The awr~irig should be carried a-round the eorn~r to project the stairway from weather. Ttiis treatment would aiiow a sloping roof over the stairway which would be more aesthetically • - pleasing. Revised drawings reflecting the above changes must -~ be submitted before approval can be given. ;. :ac°~i.ii a's the Desi ri_ReviPw Board,._`~h~n. ' The P l ann i ~g Comi~i ss on, g g _~ - - ;. ,_ ~.. r.e`.~tewed ,fih~ fof:lew~eng si:gr~.s;:... ~ - - ~ _ -. The temporary site .development sign for'Landmark.at Lio.nsHead was. unanimously approved as submitted. It was suggested that wood be used along the bottom of the sig~i in the same manner as the.top. - Th.e hanging sign for Lilly Langtree was approved unanimously as presented. The hanging sign for the Harvest Table was disapprov~;d because the Planning Commission felt t.n•at the colors .w-ere too bright and not nafiur.al, particularly the. purple. It was suggested that the s1gn should be brown and yellow. The Vail l=actory was required to resubmit the sign reflecting the above suggestions.. The sign for Diversions was approved with the following changes. ,~~ be a han in si n rather than ainted on the wall and the t must g g g p word "needlepoint" must be incorporated in the main sign or .removed entirely. The scrollwork adjacent to the Lodge entry , may be retained. The proposed sign for Knits Unlimited was approved as submitted. As there was no other business, the meeting adjourned at 3235 pm, Secretary to fhe Plannins~ Commission ..~ yCE - S._.svu ~l } ~ ..~.....- ...- .~..?t_;~.5 _, - - i.,v __ ..~ .. .. .. .~:. .~. -_-.. &r ~...._-- ..d.. 'Y._r 3~.:- ... uff <.s~.-e ~. s_.~.s ... _._ r :M - ~' .. MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING PLANNING COMMISSION :~ September ~, 1973 The regular meeting of the Planning Commission was called -~o order at 2:00 p,m. in the Conference Room of the Town of Vail Municipal Building. The following members were present: have Sage, Chairman Jack Fritzlen Gordon Pierce Jen Wright Bill Hanlon Hans Weibel Merv Lapin Others p resent Lee Caroselli ~` Keit.h Caroseili Skip Ross Diana Toughill Larry Robinson Acting as the Design Review Board, the Planning Commission reviewed the following signs: I. Lift House - The sign was unanimously approved as. submitted if it is hung on the first b.aicony instead of the second balcony as proposed, 2, Children's Corner - Approved if the pink balloon is changed to yellow and the colors ha~Ve,an antiqued appearance, Color should be resubmitted for approval. 3. Cana'd.as of Va i I -- Two s i gns and` I o_cations were approved as submitted with the provision that the existing sign be removed . 4. Harvest Table -- The Vail Factory resubmitted the .pro- posed sign and explained to the Planning Commission that the sign must be green to match existing trim on building, decor and national advertising., but.that they would be willing to change the accent color to yellow. The Planning Commis- Sion approved the sign as changed but requested that a color chip of the green be submitted for approval. The Planning Commission, acting as the Design Review Board, then reviewed the fo]lowing proposed additions: I. i'ension Esabel (Ski Skellar? Addition - Skip Ross of Ski _ Skellar presented preliminary elevations of the proposed ad- dition. -The first question. raised pertained to the agreement to purchase parking in the Transportation Cen~-er. The Plan- ning Commission feels that the .present agreement is not de- tailed nor binding enough. This will lee discussed of a later time and recommendations made to-the Town Council. Mr. Hanlon feels that it is very important that the details of the ..addition match the existing structure. The Planning .Commission also wants to visit the site to determine the visual impact of the addition, The general concensus of the group is that plans in more sufficient detail must be submitted,befor.e any action can be taken. 1 Mi nutes of Regular Meeting ' September 6, 1973 Page 2 2. E3etty Seibert Addition - Gordon P°ierce presented p.rel iminary plans for this proposed addition. It was pointed out that these plans have not yet been checked for zoning compliance, Preliminary approval was given subject to the zoning check. The final Item on the agenda was a discussion of the parking pur- chase agreement. Larry Robinson was asked for his opinion. He commenced by explaining how the whole situation came about, Merv Capin suggested the following guidelines to strengthen the contract, which guidelines were approved by the balance of the Planning Commission: (I) R 25~ down payment be required prior to the issuance of a building permit with the balance record.ed.as a Tien or similar legal document; (2} The balance payabfe over .a period of eight years at 8~ interest; (3) Parking spaces purchased-- - would not entitle purchaser to reserved spaces; {4) Monies .collected from purchasers should go directly to reduce the indebted-- -Hess an the structure; (5) Purchaser should have the full right bf prepayment without penalty; (6 ). Cost of a parking space should Hat exceed $3,500,00; (7) I.n the event the parking structure is not built the monies shall be collected and go to the General Fund. The Planning Gommission voted to recommend the above guidelines to the Town Council and instructed Larry Rabinson to research the issues and draft a preliminary contract for approval. Rs there was no other business, the meeting adjourned at 3:~0 p.m: -. Secretary to the P anni Commission • t ~ MINfJTES dF SPECIAL MEETING PLANNING CdMMISSION September i0, f973 A special meeting of the Planning Commission, acting as the Design Review Board, was called to review the proposed Ski S.kellar addition in Pension Isabel again. T.he following members were present: Dave Sage, Chairman dill Hanlon Merv Lapin Gordan Pierce dthers present: Skip Ross Diana Toughill • Dave Sage first asked the Planning Commission if they wanted to consider the addition considering their position regarding th.e parking purchase agreement, They felt this should be conside-red separately from the Design Review Board. Skip Ross presented revised elevations of the proposed addition. Since no landscaping, either existing ar p.roposed, was shown on the elevations, the Planning Commission wanted to know if existing landscaping wauld be disturbed or if new landscapi'n9 would be added. Mr. Ross replied that no existing landscaping will be disturbed and they would be vailling to add more land.- s`caping if it were requested. Gordon Pierce suggested a series of planters along the balcony rail to help tie the addition to the existing building. The Planning Commission then asked how drainage from the deck would be handled. He r~~ilied that it`would be divested toward the rear and across the sidewalk. Mr. Ross was then informed that this would not be allowed and ~ha.t an adequate drainage plan must be submitted. Gordon Pierce pointed out that the stairway and balcony.:'does.nft Ioak finished and they appear very much bike ~a fire escape. The Planning Commission requested more detailed plans an-the balcony and stairs . Merv Lapin feels that the proposed addition adds nothing to-the aesthetics of the structure and objects t,o the addition on'the basis that construc~i-on will be a never-ending thing i.n the core area. He pointed out that addition was .not allowed.under the ol.d. zoning ordinance but is under the new regulations. He..philosop.hically Feels this is not in the spirit of the intent of the new ordinance to slow down growth, Wall-to-wall buildings are nat very palatable to him. Bill Hanlon thinks it would be very difficult to make the ;addition match the existing structure without repainting all of` Pension Isabel. He also questions whether the addition will be harmonious with the proposed plaza and master plan. Dave Sage is opposed to the addition at this point aF the building arad feels that the rear elevation doesn't b-lend with other elevations and heights in the area. He likes the aesthetic effect of the building as it is to its being changed. The present building could stand a general cleanup of th.e deck area. r , ~ Minutes ofi Special Meeting September 10, 1973 Page 2 ~' The Planning Commission was then asked for a vote of the. quorum. present, The addition as proposed was disapproved on the design guideline that the addition is nat harmonious with the existing, , structure and that it throws the building o.ut of scale, Tile _ Planning Commission also felt that plates were-not in sufificient detail to make a reasonable decision, If the project .is resub- mitted with revisions, the following de-tails will be required: I. R site plan showing existing building, proposed addition, existing landscaping and- proposed landscaping; 2. R drainage plan; 3, A detailed landscaping plan; ~i. Detailed elevations of existing structure aid and addition, as well as surrounding buildings; 5. Proposed materials to be used for addition; 6, Photographs of Pension Isabel anal swrrounding areas. Rs there was no fiurther business, the meeting adjourned at 3.: If} p.m. • • ~ .~ s :,~ MINUTES OF' REGULAR MEETING PLANNING COMMISSION September 14, 1973 -~ The regular meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 2:05 p.m. in the Conference R:aom of the Municipal Building. The following members were present: Dave Sage, Chairman Bill Hanlon Merv Lapin Gordon Pierce Hans Weibel Jen Wright Others present: Keith Caroselli Jim Slevin Lee Caroselli Daphne Slevin Dudley Abbott Irene Westby John Eden -Diana Toughill ,Dave Sages reviewed the Pension Isabel addition far the Planning :Commission members who were not present at the special meeting on September 10. The Planning Commission questioned whether or not the proposed addition had been reviewed and approved by -the Vail Associates Architectural Control. Committee. Manfred Schober has been informed that he must get their approval. The main concern is whether it would be to the advantage of Pension Isabel to go to the expense of hiring an architect to do more ,detailed drawings if the Planning Commission is opposed to any addition per se. The members of the Plani~,ing Commission who were absent at the special meeting were polled and John Eden was instructed to go ahead with more drawings. Gordon Pierce presented the working drawings for the Red Lion addition which had previously been approved by the Town Council., 'These drawings were presented by Mr, l.'ierce to the Planning Corrtmission, acting as the Design Review Board, as .a courtesy 'since the addition does not yet have a building permit: Merv Lapin wanted to know if the Planning Commission could require '~ La~*ry Burdick to sign away his rights to the street as a con-- - dition for approval. It was felt that this is a question for the Town Attorney and the Town Council and. not a matter for the Benign Review Board. The design of the project was reviewed and Mr, Pierce was asked why he chose the curved line for the north-- west side of the addition. He replied he felt it followed the line of Seibert Circle and also provided a better view on Bridge Street by-not using 'a square corner. The Town Staff teas requested to check on the legal aspects of the owners' rights to the street. The Planning Commission, acting as the Design Review Board, approved the design for the Red Lion Addition with Gordon Pierce abstaining, Dave Sage then read a letter .from Mr. Shapa.ro regarding the Planning Commission review of his request for exemption from the Eagle County Subdivision Regulations. The Pl.an~ing Commission. voted to compose a letter to Mr. Shapiro stating that our reply to the County would have been different if the Planning Commission had the proposed covenants a].on~ with ~h~ request for exemption. As-,the Vail Associates .Architectural Control,Board has given their approval, the Steve Meyer residence was given final design review ~~ approval and the building permit can be issued. ,; Minutes of Regular Meeting September 14, 1973 Page 2 The Planning Commission, acting as the Design Review $oard,.then reviewed the following signs: 1. Wine and Liquor Shop -'it was recommended that the black portion of the sign be a very dark brown such as the trim color at Crossroads. The location on the east side of the door was approved. The sign was approved with the color change, which color must be submitted for approval. 2. Life and Title - the sign was approved as submitted. 3. My Favorite Things - the Planning Commission disapproved the red and white sign submitted to match the sign program. They like the sign that is already there better. Ted Kindel will be contacted for his feelings about the signs for Crossroads. The Planning Coinri-ission also would rather - -~ _ see the sign . against the wall . a.nstead of hanging . ~+. Mill Creek Court Directory - it was recommended that the bracket to hold: the sign conform to the one next to it on the building. The sign was approved as submitted with the bracket change. 5. Harvest Table - the sign was resubmitted with a darker green with the trim yellow. The sign was approved as resubmitted. 6. Childress' Corner -- 3'he.Vail Factory proposed to make the sign six square feet instead of the allowable size of three square feet. They demonstrated to the Planning Comte mission how the. small sign is clwared in the very large windows in the front of the building. The Planning Commission approved the sign as resub~.tted with the larger size and the yellow balloon. 7. Sunburst Site Development Sign - approved as submitted. Dudley Abbott then presented a preliminary annexation. plat to the' Planning Commission for property Located-west and north of Sandstone. He wanted a feeiing about the densities and type of development .the Planning Commission would like to see on the property. Mr. Abbott '~ i..s proposing,l8 units, -two-story with parking beneath on .69 acres and is also proposing a swimming pooh. HDMF zoning would be required to accommodate this number of units. The Planning Commission re- quested a su~inrnary of the HDMF and also MDMF.zoning on this preliminary plat. As there was' no further, business, the meeting adjourned at 3:x+0 p.m. Secretary to the Planning Commission • • • MINUTBS OF JOINT MEETTNG PLANNTNG COMMISSION/TOWN COUNCIL Septe~iber 27 , 1973 A joint meeting of the Planning Commission and the Town. Council was called to discuss the core area building addition and parking problem. The meeting was called to order at 2:00 P.M. in the Conference Room of the Municipal Building. The following members of the Planning Commission were present: Dave Sage, Chairman Bill Hanlon Merv Lapin Gordon Pierce Hans Weibel Jen Wright The following Councilmen were present: Mayor John A. Dobson Joseph Langmaid Josef Staufer • Also present for a portion of the meeting was Lawrence Robinson, Town Attorney. The Mayor opened the meeting and gave a brief background of the situation created by the zona.ng and parking require- ments in the core area. At present the new zo-Wing nrdfinance states that a building may be no higher than 35 feet, 90% of the lot may be covered and 10°fo must be landscaped, along with certain parking requirements. There is concern that additions and changes in buildings in Commercial Core T could be made in compliance with the zoning ordinance and then would not meet the parking requirements, especially in view of the fact that the master plan c-alts for pedestrianization of the core area. The possibility of purchasing spaces in the parking structure as an alternative to meeting the parking requirement was discussed; it was generally felt this approach was not a good solution to the problem. It was suggested by could be a link bet' pxablem. Tf growth in the core are not parking requirement street rights. Larry Robinson that a mall act situation weeri the pedestrianization and parking could be controlled and if parking spaces desired, there is possibility of waiving in exchange far a release toclaims for Tt was agreed basically that the problem is of additions, tearing down and reconstruction of buildings, with bulk the controlling factor. Tt was also suggested that the problem is not of cars but of design of the core, and that boundaries far the pedestrianized area should be established along with criteria for granting possible variances based on whether or not an addition or change would generate additional parking. ~g -~. r There was further discussion of various alternatives, wha.ch included possible zone changes in the core area and also establishing the core as an historical site. Diana Tougha.ll was requested to fttrthex study the maximum bulk allowable in accordance with the zoning ordinance, .and she wi11 present some hypothetical examples at the next meeting.. Tt was agreed that no resolution could be made at this meeting and as there was no further busa.ness to come before the meeting, the meeting adjourned at 3:45 P.M. Secretary to the Planning Commission • 1 _2. • MINUTES REGULAR MEETING PLANNING COMMIBSlON OCTOBER 4 , 1.973 The regular meeting of the Planning Commiss-ion was called to order at 2:00 P.M. in the Conference Room of the Municipal Building. The following members were present: Dave Sage, Chairman Jack Fritzlen Merv Lapin Gordon Pierce Jen Wright 1. The first item on the agenda was a preliminary sketch review of the Bighorn Seven project, as per the plans Submitted dated October 4, 1973. The presentation was made by Mr. Bob Hunt, and the developers are Charles Ogilby and Robert Ellis, ' both of whom were in attendance at the meeting. The Town of Vail Planning Commission must submit a letter stating their comments and recommendations to the Eagle County Planning Commission. The project is at the property known as the "Witkin prnperty" on Highway 6 near the Vail Racquet Club. As stated. by Mr. Hunt, the project meets the Eagle County F.A.R. requirement of .25 to 1 and meets the medium density requirements, except -. for heigYzt, of the Town.of Vail zoning ordinance.. There will be 50 1--bedroom units and 47 2-bedroom units; for a total of 97 units, and 14.4 units per acre. Mr. Hunt stated the project met the parking requirements for Vail of 0,5 spaces per unit, and that Eagle County requires 146 parking stalls, with 50% under cover. They have provided .for 113 spaces of the 146 under cover and have located them in order to have 1 covered stall for each apartment with outside parking for guests, Mr. Hunt also stated they plan on building two tennis courts and a swimming pool, and will also provide parking underneath the tennis courts. In addition, there will be a recreation building which wall also serve as meeting space, pedestrian pathways along the creek, open parklands, and the buildings. were designed so that no apartment looks a.nto the windows of another apartment. To the north of their property, there will be no building, only highway; and from the highway only two stories of their buildings would be visible, as stated by Mr, Hunt. Merv- Lapin asked when the tennis courts and pool would be constructed. It had not yet been decided, but it was stated that they would probably be built at about the same time as the first phase of construction was completed. Construction is to be done in two phases, approximately 45 units per year. Mr. Lapin also asked why the tennis courts and ,pool were being built. The developers felt they wanted to provide these facilities without charge, inasmuch as they could not receive a commitment from Jay Utter as to his tennis complex and felt the membership was too expensive and the fees too high. Also, e in order to meet the underground parking requirements of Eagle County, they would provide for additional parking {50 cars) underneath the tennis courts. Mr. Lapin also asked what the • situation was with regard to the recreational fee of the Tawn, and it was stated that the fee is 50~ per square foot for medium density. The developers stated that in discussion with Kent Rose, Town Engineer, it had been proposed that if the facilities were open to the community it might be possible for a credit to be granted. Jen Wright pointed out that it was not a fact yet that they would receive a credit. Mr. Wright then asked wh~.t type of construction materials would be used, and it was stated that' it had not been. decided, however, at this point in time, would probably be masonry, with a stucco and wood finish. Mr. Weight's., concern was that it not be pre-stressed. Gardon Pierce noted that t'he project did not meet the 35 foot height restriction of the Vail zoning ordinance, and that it was about one story higher than the requirement. He stated that in order to meet the requirement the buildings would have to be spread out over the land and that it was felt by the developers to be more desirable to have a higher building rather than spread out over the property. Dave Sage stated that he, felt the buildings were too high a.t five. stories. Mr. Jack Fritzlen suggested the possibility of entertaining a variance on the height restriction, and a.t was noted that the property has not as yet been zoned. Mr. Lapin felt they should look at the site.and then discuss the terms of a trade-off and also stated that the developers should somehow commit themselves to provide the tennis courts and swimming pool. Mr. Fritzlen asked whether there were some protection against the parklands being developed at some future date. Bob Hunt stated yes, because according to the county regulations, they are under the maximum allowable development, but that they are approaching the upper limit, and that there. is a minimum 3p foot setback off the high water portion of the creek. The Environmental Commission will also peevent any further development. Ft was finally brought out that the developers wanted some indication from the Planning Commission as to whether or no't, if they receive approval from the County at approximately 45 feet high and if the property is then annexed to the Town of Vail, they would receive approval from the Town. It was suggested that a letter~be written stating the actual trade-- offs, such as trading the pathways along the strum, the parks, tennis courts and swimming pool:, for a variance in the height restriction. Dave S-age stated: there should be no commitment at this point, and that the Planning Commission would make their recommendations as-soon as the Eagle County Planning Commission requests a'letter. 2. The second item discussed was the absence of Hans Weibel for the period from November to-May and his request that he resign for that period and became active again in May. After discussion, it was the feeling of the members that there should not be a vacant seat for that period of time and that it would be unfair to appoint a member to take Mr. Weibel'S place in his absence.. The members of the Planning Commission wi11 make recommendation to the Town Council for Mr. Weibel's resignation and for an appointment by Council to fi11 the vacancy. i -2- .. ~11 ~ J 3. The third item was the matter of mooning of Bighorn, and it was requested that Kent Rose, Town Engineer, appear before. the Pianning Commission to discuss the same at their next meeting. As there was np further business, the'mee~ing was adjourned at 3:00 P.M. Secretary • R _3- `. . ~. r • MINUTES REGULAR MEETING PLANNING COMMISSION OCTOBER 11, 1973 The regular meeting of the. Planning Commission was car ed to order at 2:00 P.M. in the Conference Room of the Municipal Building. The following members were present: Dave Sage, Chairman Merv Lapin Hans Weibel Jack Fritzlen (fox the last po~tian of the meeting) _ The fiarst item on the agenda was the consideration of the application by Levis Pennock for a Conditional Use Permit to install a coin-operated laundry in the Vail 21 Building. Mr. Pennock presented some additional plans showing the parking structure, and it was determined that the pax°ki.ng and zoning requirements had been met,. As there was .not a quorum of the members present, a vote could not be taken; however, David Sage advised Mr. Pennock that recommendation would be made to Town Council that the conditional use permit be granted. A copy of the Planning Commission's memorandum to the Town Council, is attached hereto and made a part of these minutes, and will be placed on the agenda far the Town Council meeting on October 16, 1973. The second item was consideration of the Bighorn Seven project. The Eagle County Planning Commission requested that the Vail Planning Commission submit their recommendations by October 17. There was discussion of tho points for anal against the project, and it was generally agreed that the buildings at five stories were too high and that they should be limited to three stories. The points in favor were the _ ~ provision of tennis courts and pool, cove~'ed parking and ~`~~- open space. A copy of the Planning Commission's letter is .~ attached hereto and made a part of these minutes. The third item was the meeting with Kent Rose, Town Engineer, to discuss the Bighorn zoning. Mayo r. Dobson and Terry Minger Town Manager, were present for this portion of the meeting. Mr. Rose advised that the zoning map had been presented to the Town Council and they x°equested that a new map be prepared showing no zoning, in order to receive further input from the community. A new map had been prepared showing only the established agricultural and residential areas; this map would be presented to the Bighorn Homeowners Association at their meeting on Thursday night, October 11, 1973. There was also same discussion of various alternatives which might be used with regard to the zoning and annexation situation. Mr. Minger noted that the zoning results should be the same irregardless af. the approach taken. He also .stated that- Mr. Royston of San_ Francisco is-being consulted with regard to extending the master plan to Bighorn. In conclusion, it was agreed that the Planning Commission should be more closely involved with the zoi~ing'of Bighorn. As there was no further }business to come before the meeting, the meeting adjourned at' 3:00 P.M.. Secretary /nmm ., ~ `r' ~ tou~~ of uail~ bax 100 vail, colorada s1ss~ 3o3.a~s-ss13 October 12, 1973 Michael S. Blair, Planning Director Eagle County Planning Commission Court House Eagle, Colorado 81631 Re: Your File No. Ssp-41-73 Sketch Plan - Bighorn Seven Dear Mr. Blaix: The Vail P lann~ng Comm~.ssion would like to comment on the proposed development called the Bighorn Seven Subdivision. The Vail Planning Commission feels that the project, as presented, is well-conceived and generally follows the standards of development which are good for the Gore Valley. Particular paints in favor of the project are: 1. The provision of two tennis courts; 2. The covered parking which is being provided, -- a good deal more than required by the County regulations; and 3. The provision for open space which the developers have made throughout the tract. One point of opposition which the Commission would like to express is in regard to height of the buildings. While it is true four and five story buildings allow for more open space on the site, the Commission does feel that in an area such as Bighorn (which is primarily residential in nature), the building height should be limited to three stories. Sincerely, DS/nmm VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION w... ~,._ I3a;~"i Sage ~.~. • of rail bOX 1 00 • V71~, CO~OI'~d0 81 657 • 303 476-561 3 MEMORANDUM T0: TOWN COUNCIL FROM: PLANNING COMMISSION RE: LEVIS PENNOCK - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DATE: OCTOBER 12, ].973 The Planning Commission has reviewed i.n two separate meetings the proposal by Mr. Pennock for installing a coin-operated laundry in the basement of the Vail 21 Building at LionsHead. Mr. Pennock has complied with all zoning and. parking requirements for the Town of Vail and the Building Department has passed favorably on all technical aspects, of his project. With this information in hand, the Planning Commission could find no problems with the proposal and recommends to the Council that the Conditional Use Permit be granted. ,. 1 - _ 1 AGENDA PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OCTOBER 11, 1.973 1. Final. Approval for Conditional Use Permit of Levis Pennock; 2. Recommendations re the Bighorn Seven project; letter to be sent to the Eagle County Planning Commission before October ].7th; 3. Meeting with Kent Rose, Town engineer, to discuss Bighorn zoning. t town of rail bOx 100 • Vc~11, colarado 81 657 303 • 47 6.561 3 NOTICIr 0~ SPACIAL 7OINT Mi=~TLNG 0~ TchVN OP VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION ANa T04UN COUNCIL NOTICE IS NIrR~BY GIVIrN ~h~ ~Gce>r.e w.t,22 be a ~speeur;E?. paint meet.%ng a ~ ~h.2 Tawn v ~ Va~.2 P.2an.ning Camm.us~s.ian and the Town Caw~.c,%P. vn Octabe~c 22, .1973 (Monday) a~ 2:00 P.M. a~ ~h.e Tawn v~ Va.%,Q Muru.ei.~a.e Bcu:2ding, ~a earis,Ldetr. ~:he ~a,P~aut%ng : ~ahh,%ng vah.%ance - Pa~`,%a Rc~s~aunant yxVc(zing van-i-ance -The 5.~v~e, Ran ~i.~ey ~setbaeh. valrianee - Tawn a~ Va.i.Q (ate ~ c1ia.~~ cerr~ehl - J 4 ~.l-~Gz ' ~~ ' D.t.av~a S. Tau.glzi,P.F', Zavr,%ng Admin,vs~catan MINUTES REGULAR MEETTNG PLANNING COMMISSION OCTOBER lg, 1973 The regular meeting of the Planning Commission was ca:~-:1ed to order at 2:00 P.M. in the Conference Room o~ the Municipal Building. The following members were present: David Sage, Chairman Jack Fritzlen Bill. Hanlon Merv Lapin Hans Weibel • There were no items scheduled on the agenda. David Sage requested that the Planning Commission discuss the problem of Bighorn coning. The Planning Commission felt they should prepaxe a tentative zoning xnap and a recreational amenities map to be submitted to the planners for review. However, after discussion ,. no decision was reached as to the final position of the Planning. Commission, and it was agreed to schedule a meeting, as a work session on Bighorn zoning, for Wednesday, October ~~, 1973, at 2:00 R.M. It was requested that Kent Rose attend the work session. Also discussed was the prob~.em of parking variances for change of use in Commercial Core I. Na decision was made; however, a meeting was scheduled for Friday, October 19, 1973, at 2:00 to discuss what recommendations the Planning Commiss~.on wouJ.d make to the Council re parking variances. As there was no further business to come before the meeting, the meeting adjourned at 3:00 P.M. Secretary /nmm ~`~~- -s; ~' ,_.,~d...~ ., _. -~-~.., {tea ~.. :tau. r_. -_.... ~.~'~~~ .. ....:. ,..~,,f -~. .. .. - .. - ~ ... ~ .. .. ~~:a k°m of uaof SOX 1 0 0 • Valk, CO~QI'8d0 $ 1 6 5 7 s 3 0 3 4 7 6 -5 6 1 3 MEMORANDUl~i TO: TOWN COUNCIL FROM: VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION R,E: PENDING PARKING VARIANCES - • COMMERCIAL CORE I DATE: OCTOBER 19, 1973 BACKGROUND 'on as become uite concerned about the The Plann~.ng Comm~.ss~, h q increasing influx of variance requests from individuals and businesses in the Commerca.al Coxe I zone. Variances to be resolved include the follo~~ring existing and proposed situations: 1. Red Lion - expansion requiring additional parking; 2. Slifer Building -- expansion and added use requiring additional parking; 3. Schober Building -- expansion requiring additional parking; 4. The Slope -- expansion and change of use requiring additional parking; 5. The Patio -- proposed change of use from residential to commerical requiring additional parking; 6. Lions Square - propased~change of use eliminating parking; 7. The Ri_verhouse - proposed change of use from residential to commercial requiring additional parking. MEMORANDUM T0: TOZi~N COUNCIL -2-- October 19 , 1973 • In addition to the above, the Commission understands that lodging rooms at Pension Isabel are being offered for rent as office space. Certainly, this constitutes a drastic change of use involving parking requirements, etc.; yet, to the Commission's kno~vledge, the Tnwn has not formally been notified about it . Finally, word of mouth reports indicate other contemplated changes which will be generating variance requests of one sort or another. TkIE PROBLEM The Commission feels that the questions of increased parking requirements, changes in traffic pressure, the purchase. of spaces in the parking structure, method of payment, pedestrian core, etc., in regard to these requests, are secondary to the central issue being raised, -- CHANGE OF USE. The new zoning ordinance appears to have left a void in the area of guidelines on how to deal with change o£ use proposals i_n the Town. The significance here is that the core area could conceivably become totally commercial in character, as compared with its rather pleasant mixture of lodging, residential, and commercial. Because of the mounting pressure through variance requests,. the Planning Commission feels that this Change of Use problem must be addressed and resolved with all possible speed. RECOMMENDATIONS The Planning Commission would like to make the following recom- mendations to the Town Council: Burdick, Riley, Schober, Slicer.--- That the variance requests from this group be dealt with under some forumla relating to the purchase of spaces in the parking structure. Each has gone through at least a minimal negotiating rracess on the matter and representations have been made to each that the spaces could be purchased. That the cost per space be set at a figure not to exceed X3,500.00. ~~ S$~ 3, ~~7~3i '~ Q~~' ~ ~ ~ ~3 J a~~ , ~A~ ~~,I ~ X ;, . Mp,MORANDU;~ T0: - TOWN COUNCIL --3- October 1.9, 1973 That the terms of purchase involve the following: 1. The issuance to the Town of Vail of a ~.n.~ Deed of Trust on the property in question to secure the Note; 2. A ten-year note carrying interest at the rate of So per annum; but with a minimum payment of $1.,000.00 per year. The Commission discizssed the method of payment at great length. Choices ranged fram the extremes of requiring a total cash p~.yment before the issuance of a Building Permit, to allowing payment over 20 years on a non-interest bearing note. A reason- able middle ground appeared to be the best approach. Because of the small amount that may be due where a few number of spaces is involved, the $1,000.00 yearly minimum is suggested. 90-Day Interim Poriod: That a ninety--day period, effective immediately, bet set during which no variances of any kind be entertained by the Planning Commission or Town Council for Commercial Core I zone. During this time, the Council, with the assistance of the Planners anal the Planning; Commission, should come to grips with this Change of Use problem and formulate guidelines for handling it. Basic to the issue should be objectives and goals for the total. future character of the core area. Patio Restaurant Variance Request: That this request not be acted upon until after the 90-day period. This request, in particular, is of key importance since it involves the change of residential space inter a restaurant. Since neither the Planning commission nor the Design Review Board has reviewed plans ox proposals on the matter, it is felt that the request should not be considered until alter the Council. has resolved the problem. Pension Isabel: That the Town Staff be directed to investigate the situation of lodge rooms being offered for rent as offices. If this is in fact the case, the owners should be notified about taking the appropriate procedural steps to comply with the Zoning Ordinance. MINUTES SPECIAL JOINT MEETING VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION/TOWN COUNCIL OCTOBER 23, 1975 f A special joint meeting of the Vail Planning Commission and the Tawn Council. to consider the parking variances of the Patio Restaurant and The Slope, and a setback variance from the Town of Vaal art anal craft center, was duly called and held at 2:00 P.M., Tuesday, Octobex 2.3, 1973, in the Conference Room of the Town of Vail Municipal Bua;l-ding. The following Councilmen were present: Mayor John A. Dobson Richard Bailey John Donovan Josef Staufer The following members of the Planning Commission were present: David Sage, Chairman Jack Fritzlen Bi11 Hanlon Merv Lapin Also present were: Terrell J. Minger, Town Manager Jim Lamont, Administrative Assistant Bill Pierce, Town Staff Cindy Lamont, Vail Trail • The Planining Commission considered an application of the Town of Vail for a variance in accordance with Article 1.9, Section 19.200 of Ordinance 8 (Series of 1:975) in order to permit the construction of an addition for a public art and craft center with zero (0) feet setback in:~lieu of 13.'5' as requixed. The Planning Commission stated that they would recommend that the variance be granted. Upon motion duly made by Merv Lapin and seconded by Jack Fritzlen, it was unanimously voted to recommend to the Town Council that the setback variance be granted. unanimously voted to approve the variance.. The Council then considered the variance application and the recommendation of the Planning Commission. Upon motion duly made by John Donovan and seconded by Richard Bailey, it was The Planning Commission anc3..the Town Council then reviewed the Commission's memorandum of<Oct.o~er 19, 1973 {attached hereto and made a part of these minutes) regarding parking variances and change of use in the Commercial Core I (especially changes. from residential to cdmmercial). .There: was discussion of the 90-day interim period, during which time no variances for change of use would be considered~f©r Commercial Core I. Upon motion duly made by Merv Lapa~n and seconded'by Jack Fritzlen, it was unanimously voted to recommend to the Town Council that a ninety {90) day period, effective immediately, be set during which no variances of any kind be entertained by the Planning Commission or Town Council for Commercial. Core I zone. The Council was in agreement with such-procedure; however, na vote was taken. The Council will take formal action at their neat regularly scheduled meeting. i C] In accordance with the memorandum of October 19, there was discussion of the purchase of parking spaces in the specific cases of Burdick, Riley, Schober .and Slifer, There was general agreement that the consideration received fox the additional spaces required should be contributed to a trans- portation system, or possibly an .escrow account, rather than the actual selling of parking spaces, per se. There was discussion of the price which should be set for the additional parking spaces required under the ordinance. It was pointed out that $3,500 was a reasonable figure to either purchase a space or to build one independently. However, after further discussion, it was agreed that the price should be set at $3,.000. Upon motion duly made by Mr. Lapin and seconded by Mr. Fritzlen, it was unanimously voted to recommend to-the Town Council that the incremental. parking requirements be met and that the ter~as of th.e purchase be set at $3,000 per additional space required,- to be`paid either in cash, or by a ten-year note carrying interest at. the rate of 8% per annum, with a minimum payment of $1,000 per year, secured by a subordinated Deed of Trust on the property in question, issued to the Town of Vail. The Planning Commission considered an application by Mr. Ron Riley, representing The Slope, for a parking variance in accordance with Sections 1!i.200, 8.5].0 and 19.200 of Ordinance 8, Series of 1973, in order to allow the expansion of the subject restaurant into the present Vali--Hi Books and Things premises. The Change of Use requires four additional parking spaces which the site will not accommodate. The Planning Commission advised Mr. Riley of their recommendations made to the Town Council. Mr. Riley stated he was not pleased with their proposal for the purchase of spaces and questioned the reasoning used for calculating additional spaces for changing use from shop to restaurant, inasmuch as .it is a change from commercial to commercial. He also stated that he assumed he was going to get a variance, as it was implied at his. liquor license hearing that parking would be reviewed at a later time. He understood that the parking was going to be resolved with no economic impact and it would be reasonable and equitable. Mr. Lapin made a motion, seconded by Jack Fritzlen, and it was unanimously voted to recommend to the Town Council that Mr. Riley's application, representing The Slope, dated October 3, ].973, be approved subject to the condition-that the incremental parking requirements be met and that the terms of the purchase be set at $3,000 per additional space required, to be paid either in cash, ox by a ten-year note carrying interest at the rate of $% per annum, with a minimum payment of $1,000 per year, secured by a subordinated Deed of Trust on the property in question, issued to the Tawn af. Vail.. The Town Council considered Mr. Riley's application and the Planning Commission's recommendation. After reviewing the same, Richard. Bailey made a motion, seconded by John Donovan, and it was unanimously voted that the application for a variance be approved,. in accordance with the recommendation made by the Planning Commissian, as stated above. -2- . ~- .... .,.. ~ ~~~ v a . .. __ ~ - . - ..: ,. .4 4 The Planning Commission considered an application of Michael M. Solloway, Frederick L. Angeloh and Ralph T. Sloan, repre- senting the Patio Restaurant, for a parking variance in accordance with Sections 14.200, 8.510 and 19.200 of Ordinance 8 (Series of 1973} in order to allow the expansion of the subject restaurant into the area above the Gondola Ski Shop. The change of use requires two additional parking spaces which the site will. not accomtnadate. Jay Peterson and Doug~~ McLaughlin were also present at this portion of the meeting. It was stated by them that the space is presently a four- bedroom residence, with possibrly 4 to 8 cars parked at the premises. The restaurant will be abreakfast-lunch type restaurant, open 7 A.M. to 3 or 4 P.M. It was noted that parking. could not be furnished on the .site without a variance. They also noted that with the present apartment, there are . approximately 4 cars coming through the Town and with a restaurant, no cars would come into the core area, since they would probably be parking in the main parking lot. The Planning Commission fe1.t that this application should ~'~" '' not be acted upon until after the 90-day interim period, inasmuch as it had not been reviewed by them, nor the Design `- Review Board, until this time. However, it was pointed aut by the Mayor that the variance requests of both The Slope and the Patio Restaurant were made on the wine date and, therefore, -. should be considered at this time. Mr. Lapin made a motion, seconded by Jack Frit2len, and it was unanimously voted to recommend to the Town Council, that the .application of the Patio Restaurant, dated October 3, 19'73; be approved subject to the condition that the incremental parking: requirements be met and that the terms: of the purchase,be set at $3,000 per additional .space requ~.xed, to be paid either in cash, ar = by a ten-year note carrying interest- at the rate of 8Io per annum, with a minimum payment of X1,000 per year, secured by a subordinated Deed of Trust on the property in question, issued to the Town of Vail. The Town Council then considered the Patio Restaurant's application and the Planning Commission's recommendation. ';, Bohn Donovan expressed his opinion that it was not in the -. best interest of the Town to allow such a change. However, a motion was made by Josef Staufer, seconded by Richard _ Bailey, and it was unanimously voted that the application for a variance be appro~red, in accordance with the recommenda- tion made by the Planning Commission, as stated above. As there was no further business to come before the meeting, it was voted to adjourn. i - Secretary /rimm J :, . - 3- ~.. - ~. ~. MINUT~s REGULAR MELTING PLANNING COMMISSION OCTOBER 25, 1973 The regular meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 2:00 P.M. in the Conference Roam of the Town of Vail Municipal. Building. The following members were present: David Sage, Chairman Jack Fritzlen Merv Lapin Gordon Pierce Hans Weibel Jen Wright Also present was Jim Lamont, Administrative Assistant. Mr. Sage reviewed what happened at the meeting on Tuesday, October 23, 1.973. He stated that there was funda.me~tal agreement of the Town Council with the recommendations made by the Planning Commission regarding pending parking variances for Commercial Core I (in accordance with memo of October 19). He stated that the variance requests of bath the Patio Restaurant and The Slope were made simultaneously and, therefore, were treated in the same manner .and granted variances, subject to certain conditions (as stated in the minutes of October 23, 1973.). Mr.-Sage also advised that the Council would make a statement re .the, 90=day interim period at~their meeting on 'November 6th. The Commission then considered an.appiication for a parking variance by Lionsquare Ltd. Partnership, in accordance with Sections 14.200 and 19.200 of Ordinance 8 (Series of 1973} in order to allow construction of a` conference and- . meeting facility in place of t~elve .(12),'existing parking spaces in underground parking structure. Representing Lionsquare were Jim Cunningham, Warren Klug and John Eden.. Supporting documents were presented by"Lionsquare, copies of which are attached hereto and made a part of these minutes. It was pointed out that -the re"ason "for `this vara.ance request . is that there is a conflict between Vail Associates and Lionsquare as to a commitment regarding the use of VA's meeting space. The VA meeting space has~not been available. It was felt by Mr. Cunningham that they would not need to provide additional parking, because;of the bus transporta- tion use in LionsHead, along with the tremendous amount of parking already provided in the area. Mx. -.-Lapin asked if the conference center would be available to other people on a rental basis; it would be available on a short-term basis to the community i~ it did not conflict with a group reserva- t7,on. it was also pointed out tY}at there is no other develop- - able land owned by them on which a convention center could be constructed. The parking spaces can n.ot be relocated on adjacent projects. If a variance were granted, it would make a nonconforming building even more nonconforming. It was generally agreed by the members that the .eliminated parking spaces should be made up, especially in view o:f the fact that LionsHead may need the spaces in the future.: It was also, pointed out that the convention center cauld be built under- ground, but the developers felt it was economa:cally not feasible. >;, , Mr. Sage advised that the Commission would take the request of Lionsquare Ltd, under consideration until their newt meeting, -- November ~., 1973, -- at which time recammendati,ons would be made to the Town Council for the Council meeting on November 6, 1973.' Zt was decided to s.chedul.e a meting to: discuss the zoning. of Bighorn on Tuesday, October 30; 1973, at 2.:00 P,M. Mr. Hans Weibel. advised the Commission of his, resignation, effective i.n two weeks. As there was no further business to come before the meeting, the meeting adjourned at 3:15. "'~ Secretary nmm • i -2- • MINUTES REGULAR MEETING PLANNING COMMISSION NOVEMBER 1, 1973 • The regular meeting of the Planni.n.g Commission was called to order at 2:00 P.M. in the Conference Room of the Town of Vail Municipal Building. The following members were present; David Sage, Chairman Jack Fritzlen Bill Hanlon Merv Lapin Gordon Piexce. Hans Weibel. Jen Wright Also present were: James F. Lamont, Administrative Assistant Lou Parker 1 • Mr. Sage presented the Commission members with a dxaft of the Bighorn zoning recommendations for their review. A few corrections were made and the final will be retyped by Nadine on Town stationery. Mr. Sage advised the Commission that Ski Club Vail desired to construct a temporary waxing shack, near the existing race shack, at Golden Peak. The structure had been viewed by the Zoning Administrator, to be presented to the Planning Commission as a temporary structure. It was agreed that the shack should be removed immediately after ski season and that it should be stained in :the same color as the existing race shack. A vote was taken, with Mr. Lapin and Mr. Sage abstaining; unanimous approval, subject to receipt of a letter from Mr. Dave Garton of Ski Club Vail stating responsibility for removal of the shack by no later than May 15, 1974, and that-the building will be stained in the same color as the existing race shack, if the building is not removed by May 1.5, it will be removed by the Town of Vail at the expense of Ski Club Vail. The Commission then discussed the variance request of Lionsquare Ltd., continued from last week's meeting. The Zoning Administrator advised that they are eliminating required parking spaces and creating another parking require- ment for the conference area. The change, however, does not alter the appearance of the building. There is na place where they could add to the building, because of height, length and diagonal requirements. Mr. Jim Lamont suggested that possibly a variance could be granted, with the condit~.on that an assessment be made for parking fee to cover the deficit parking. Mr. Weibel ngted that he-was opposed to granting a variance in this instance and felt it would be a bad precedent to do so. Jen Wright disagreed with Mr. Weibel and felt the LionsTlead area needed a convention center. C7 Mr. Gordon Pierce also felt this type of conventa~on-meeting facility was necessary and it was unf air to have a parking requirement for a convention center. After further discussion, a motion was made and it was unanimously voted to recommend to the Town Council that the request for a variance be denied. The vote was as follows: Gordon Pierce - yes; Jack Fritzlen - no; Jen Wright - yes; Hans Weibel=- no; Merv Lapin - no; Bill Hanlon - no; David Sage - no. Mr. Sage stated he would write a letter to the Tawn Council recommending that, whale sympa- thetic to the need for a conference room in LionsHead to handle up to 250 people, the request for a variance be denied. • The next item discussed was the converting of two rooms in Pension Isabel to a dentist office (Dr.~Peter Wells). No building permit had been obtained; a stop work order had been issued. Dr. Wells came to the meeting to request a variance.. Mr. Sage advised the Commission that nothing had been decided by council about stopping the variance request. Mr: Sage stated the Commission would write a letter to Council recom- mending that this matter fall within the 90-day interim period until a decision is made regarding change of use. As there was no further business to come before the meeting, the meeting adjourned at 3:00 P.M. Secretary /nmm • t ~'A J:+ 4'IORA ND V 1~'A • • TO : TO'EV'N COUNC I ~, FR0~1: .VAZL PLANNING C03i1iISSTOi~r RF: PARKING VAIZ7ANCB FOR DNN`I'IST' S OI'1~'ICE IllT PENSION ISAI3EI~ DATE : NOVFh1BI3;R 5 , 197 3 >3ACIiGROUND A Dr . Peter {Nell s ha.s rented one lode room from ~1at~t`r. ed Schol3er in the Pension Isabel. ~'Uork is under tray to convert this room to a dentist's office. Far one reason or another, no building permit had br~en applied for or issued on th:i_s project as of the Corr~i~ission's meet:~ng Thursday, November lst. Furthermore, the Town had not been adv3.sed of the change of use (and attendant parking require- ment} which this situation involves. The Building Department ind~_cates that one additional parking space is required far tl•ie creation of Dr. {Yells' dentist office in this building. ' CU1~Rr;~~T STATUS : The Building Department has stc,pped work on the project because of the lack of supporting permits, etc. Dr. {Yells came to the Planning Commission 1`~oven~ber lst to request, that he be able to purchase an additional space under tho seine lorwnla as Burdicl~, S]_ifer, Riley, etc. , to satisi'y his parking requirement. The Commission advised Dr, {fells and his attorney that a letter of recommendation would be written to tl~e Town Council ~`or its • rieXt meP,tlllg. • Ii,I:CObi?Iiridl)A~'IJ~'S The Planning Commission recommends to the Co~~ncil that Dr. «'el].s' x•PClueSt i'or a parking variance be tabled until. some deciszans have been reached in regard to the Change of Use problc-:3~~ outlinod a_n tl7e Con~mzssion's memorandum to the Caunci]_ dated October 19, 1.9'73. There are a number of supporting thaughts belxind this recommendat~.on. Tirst, no building hermit has been issued and the Design Review Board and the Planning Commission have not had the opportunity to review the project. Hence, there are grounds for tabling a decision based on simple lack of procedural compliance by Dr. 1~'ells. - Second, there is some thought on th.e part of the Commission that this particular use may not be desirable for the core area of the Town because of the increased traffic which it would create. Third, this case directly involves a change of use from a lodging room to a praxessionaJ. office. It is the topic upppormos~; in the Planning Commission's mind as one which should be studied and decided upon iay the Council before any further variances are granted. DSjnmm • --2- tail:}~iORANDU1~i T0: TOA'N COUNCIL IRON; VAIL PLAI~TNING GOIIliISSIO~I RI; : LARKING VARIAtvGE RIt~UEST AT LIOT~S SC~UARF DATE ; \'OVLItil3]sR 5, 1373 BACI~Gl~.OEJND At the meeting October 25, 1973, Jim Cunningham and jYarren Klug carne befare the Cammission with a proposal for eliminating 1X spaces in the Lions Square underground garage to accammodat~ a r~teeta.ng room for groups, conventions and the like, coming to La.ons 5ciuare and to LionsHead in genexa~.. A wealth of supporting documents wore presented to outline the need for such a facility at Li_onsllead .-- a3.1 those documents are avail~~.ble from the Ta~vn Staff, if necessary. CONSIbFRATIONS: The Commission has a variety of thoughts about this proposal. 1. Not only does the proposal eliminate parking spaces; however, the meeting room would also generate the require- ment fox more spaces under the present ordinance. 2. 1'ractic.ally speaking, the proposal is a good one and a conference room WOLlId undoubtedly benefit the lodges and businesses in LionsHead. Further, the need is there. 3. An unknown is ~vhethex the core area of LionsHead ~vil~_ become busy enough in future years to regttire those 1~. spaces -- which are no~v vacant a good deal, of the time. 4. The granting of the variance svauld make a noncanform~.ng building in Lionsl-iead even mare noncanforming under the ord7.ttance. • • Pa~•e 2 November 5, x.973 5. If thc~ spaces could be replaced by the developers, then perhaps there ma.glat be more favorable grounds for granting a variance. Thy devclaper is presently unable to relocate the c].imin~.tcd spaces . R~CO;~i11~NI~ATIONS j1'hi].e sympathetic to the need for a conference room in Lionsliead to h~~nd]~e up to 250 people, the I~lanning Commission voted to recomancnd to the Council. that the Lions Scl_uare vaxiance be denied. DS/nmm r~,.~ A k~ . C -` t~; ~~~61~i ~ y}~,~~ ~JElX 1 0 0 a Va 1~, C0~t7Y~E[~D a f 6 5 7 0 3 6 3~ 4 7 G 5 6 1 3 D4Et+i0RANDUAi TO ; ELDON BECK F1~.014: T1fE VAIL I'LANNI~TG C01i1~lISSION RF ; RI',CORiAiENDATIOIvS FOFZ, BIGHORN PLANNING AND BONING DATE : NnVER1BER 5 , 1~J 7 3 Fo]_lo~ving is a list of~ con~mezats anc~ recommendations which the Vail Planning Commission has in regard to planning the Bighorn area :for possible annexation into the Towzz of Vail. ENV I I~ONRiEN7.'AL CONCTRNS . There are several fairly obvious categories to be enumerated. Stream~rotecti.on and r reen belt -- A similar policy of sti°eam protection az~.d greEn bc~li. along the stream courses, similar to that irz Vail Village, should be instituted where pOSS3ble. Avalanche and snow slide areas -- The inherent dangers of building near or iz~ such areas must be taken into consideration. Flood plains --- Piust be considered in looking at planning the area. Reforc~statian -- A policy of continuing the reforestation program along I-IO up the Valley tram Vail Village through the Bighorn area should be an important requisite. ftL~CREAT~ONAL I~'ACTOT~S While there are a wide variet~T oi' amenities which can be offered i_n any area, the following 3 would be most important for i3ighorn. r ~ Page 2 i ~J 13a.Le~~rLt:hs ---~ Continuation of and thrau~;l~ Bighorn can be tlae system. November 5 , 19'73 tkte bike system from Vail into first step in a valley-wide Parks --- As much apet~ space as passible shau7.d be left for general pub7_ic J~t~rks. Pla~Tgro-_Ind~~ --- Playgrounds similar to that which we have in Vail Ott the Pirate Ship should be enc~aurag-ed for tixe use of residents a.n tl~e Bigl.orn area. kfA~IOR Tt~ARTSPORTATION Certainly, the extension of amass transk~orta.tion system into the Bighorn area is a logical and necessary outgrowth of the Vail Alaster P7.an. ZONING OF EYISTIII~G ARZ~AS The silnplest approach seems to be that existing structures on subdivisions should be zoned as covenanted. In the case of existing duplex residentia7_, the area would be zoned as such; where single family zesidential exists, the area would be 7aned as single family residentia7.; where existing commercial structures exist, each would be ,zoned to the closest zone which exists in the ordinance. A number of conflict situations have already been pointed out. The Commission recommends that a list o~ all these conflicts be prepared and. reviewed by planners and the town staff -- with that :List in hand, solutions can be worked out for each of the specific situations. C0141~tI?RCXAI, CONSIDFRATIOVS The Cor~unission recognizes that factors of transportation, ~~ people--flaw, and the like, will affect ultimate decisions on what kind of commercial activit~T should be allowed in Bighorn. The opinion of the Commission is that commercial zonai.ng should be minimal to nonexistent f'or the area. Page 3 November 5, 1973 If a l;as stata.on is to be permitted, it should be limited to basic sorvicc~s only and hidden by extensive landscapa_ng No truc.l~ stops, car wash o~~erations, auto repa3_r shops, etc should be allowed. In addition, tho Commission belives that lodging accommodations should be lcelat ~to an absolute minimum. The inherent beauty of Bighorn as one comes off Vail Pass and into th~V Gore Valley must not be^c~ne marred with the neon lights, signs, etc., which accompany commercial centex's. UNDI!,VI,I,OPT~D GROU11rD A5 a general cancep.t, the Commission feels that densities should progress from higher to lower starting in the areas closest to Highway ~ and I~70. In other words, higher densities should be between and close to the two highways; a lower density ratio between Highway 6 and the stream south- ward to tkae National sorest. I~ecogni.zin~; that this concept, if taken in the stra.ctest sense, could create undesirable . corridors of growth down the valley in a linear sense, the Commission feels that clustering of densities with green space I.n between should be accomplished wherever possible. DrNS I:T'Y The most desirable feature about BI_ghorn is its basic resi~- dent~_al character, and the Vail Planning Commission would like to see that character preserved. This means that the density maximum should be ~~Iedium -- and that as .lift:Le as possible of that Medium Densit}r Zone should be permitted. DS/nmm • 1 ONI Of Y811 bOX 100 • vale, colorada 81667 • 3D3a76-5513 November 5, 1973 Vail Planning Commission Vail, Colorado 81657 Re: Temporary Ski Club Shack at Golden Peak Gentlemen: This letter is to represent my understanding and agreement of the conda~tions under which-Ski Club Vail will be per- mitted to place a temporary shack, near the existing race shack, at Golden Peak. First, the shack will be in place for the winter season 1973-74 only. I personally agree to see that the shack is removed from Golden Peak by no later than May 1,5, 1974. In the event that the shack is not moved, I understand ghat the Town of Vail will then move it~ at Ski Club Vail"s expense. Second, the Ski Club agrees to have the building stained in the same color as that on the existing two-story race shack at the finish area, Sincerely, sew"` Dave Garton DS/nmm ~~_~~a • 1 t AGENDA P.~~Pd~VIN£~ C~,~~1tfISSION NOVLASIBER 8, .973 l ~. pxeli.~n.inary sketch plans for recommendations to Eagle County Planning Co;nmission: -- .~. snow Lion IT 2. Home,stake TIC 3. A_'xowhe ~d . at Vail 4. 13enchrraxk at Beaver Creek ~ m } } E ~. • MINUTES REGULAR MEETING PLANNING COMMISSION NOVEMBER 8, 1973 The regular meeting of the Planning Commission was called to order at 2:00 F.M. in the Conference Room of the Town of Vail Municipal Building. The following members were present: David Sage, Chairman Bill Hanlon Merv Lapin Gordon Pierce r~ • Also present were: Jim Lamont, Administrative Assistant Kent Rose, Town Engineer interested citizens Mx'. Sage opened the meeting by suggesting that the Design Review Board, not the Planning Commission, should review buildings. '~Mr. Lapin suggested that poss~.bly both groups could meet together; agreed. On the agenda far the meeting were four preliminary sketch plans for recommendations to the Eagle County Planning Commission: -- (1) Snow Lion II; (2) Ha~estake III; (3) Arrowhead at Vail; and (4} Benchmark at Beaver Creek. . 1. Snow Lion II - Mr. James Darby of the Snow Lion Condominiums was present to state opposition to this project. Mr. Darby stated there are serious problems; in particular, with regard t o parking, siting and snow stacking. Tt was pointed out that street setbacks are OK. The distance between the two buildings is l5 feet; 7 feet from the southwest corner; 22 units and 32,379 square feet; elevations - 3~ stories; parking area infringes on swimming pool area; short on parking spaces; no provision for refuse containers; everything included, over 65% coverage of land. The Commission requested that Mr. Darby write a letter stating all points of opposition; he agreed to do so, and a copy of his letter is attached hereto and made a part of these minutes. Mr. Sage stated that the Planning Commission would decide on the points of xecommendation at their next ncieeting, and a letter will be written to the Eagle County Planning Commission. 2. Homestake III - Mr. Lapin stated he had a conflict of interest with this project, because of a relationship with developer. Some of the points discussed: --- existing buildings are 6 stories; proposed buildings - 3 stories; encroachment on util~.ty easements; setback is OK; lack of amenities ,• some underground parking, but most is surface parking; density higri in view of requirements for underground parking, .site eove~rage, and amenities. It was felt that there were ~.nsu~ficient drawings presented to make an accurate judgement at this time; however, Kent Rase will further review the- project. A letter of recom- mendation will be written to the Eagle County Planning Commission next week. _. ,..:, z. _.c _. .-~.Su~s-..tea: <..,. ..._ -c,... .,.; -~.Y,~ -:. '.-. - t: ._,. _ e., .. _. ... .. ... C7 • • 3. Arrowhead at Vail - This subdivision does not have to be reviewed under Senate Bill 35; however, the Eagle County Planning Commission wants the Vail Planning Commission to review the whole Avon area. The County has reviewed the sketch plan briefly and will be reviewed by them again in December. The plan far the area is to keep the meadow open and build the units up against the mountain. There will be 2350 condominium units, 75 single family duplixes, 200 lodge units, 180,000 square feet of commercial space (350 acres, 8 or 9 units per acre}; eventually., will be a transportation system; 55 ski lifts in the area, will carry approximately 2500 skiers, all ski lifts on private land, no association with Beaver Creek; probably will need Forest Service permit to ski both areas; skiable terrain - 600--700 acres. There was some question as to the number of beds per dwelling uhit. Gordon Pierce suggested that more material is necessary to make recommendations on this project,. It was pointed out that the County has more detailed information, which will be provided to the Vail Planning Commission. 4. Benchmark at Beaver Creek - This is a preliminary sub- division plan, to be reviewed by Eagle County Planning Com- mission in December. Mr. Leroy Toblex was present representing Benchmark. He stated there is a land trade with the Fish & Game Department; the rest of property will be used for the bulk of development. Property is to be developed with 20 units per acre; 75 acres of open space presented to the County for their use. Open space is above county regulations. They can supply only 50% employee housing. Vail Associates transporta- tion system will limit vehicular traffic to the site. There has been a joint plabning effort submitted to Nottingham, Vail Beaver Creek and Arrowhead as an attempt to obtain school .sites. There are no geographical problems. Mr. Tobler stated they are close the zoning ordinance of Vail;. the only diffexence might be 1 c.ouered parking stall per unit (1910 units}. Com- letion of total units should be by 1990. It was also pointed out that the County does,not~require asphalt paving unless under 12 , 000 square feet , ` 'T'hey gill supply the Vail Planning Commission with a comparison breakdown of the project as to the Vail zoning ordinance and the Eagle County land planning. As there was no further business to come before the meeting, the meeting was adjourned at 3:00 P.M. Secretary /nmm -2- MihuT~s REGULAR MEETING PLANi~ING COMMISSION NOVEMBER 29, 1973 The regular meeting of the Planning Commission was convened at 1:30 P.M. in the Conference Room of the Town of Vail Municipal Building. The following members were present; David Sage, Chairman Jack E'ritzlen Bill Hanlon Merv l,api n Gordon Pierce Jen Wright Also present were: dim Lamont, Administrative Assistant Diana Toughill, Zoning Administrator; The meeting was called to order at 1.30 to allow far discussion of the Change of Use situation in the Core area and the fact that Town Council had not yet acted upon same. Points of discussion were the increase in traffic, violation of zoning ordinance, passage by citizens of Vail of a bond issue for parking structure, and the fact that the people of Vail would probably riot want the structure for change of .use to allow offices downtown, etc. By granting these variances, it was felt that people changing use were being provided with something they could not provide themselves, i.e., parking spaces. It was painted out that more public input was necessary to better understand the situa- tion. Under the present ordinance, conceivably; everything 6n the first floor (Core area} could become commercial, second floor, offices, and possibly, the third floor also. The impact would be a character change in the Core. It was also pointed out that there may not be too much left in the Core which could be changed and, therefore, concern at this time was unnecessary. The Zoning Administrator will compile a report re change in the Core area far the next regularly scheduled meeting. Jim Lamont will also request that Eldon Beck attend the next Planning Commission meeting. It was generally agreed that the stop work order issued for Pension Isabel should be enforced; Mr. Fritzlen wished to disqualify himself in this discussion because of personal friendship. The Commission then considered an application by Dr. Peter Alan Wells for a parking variance in accordance with Sections 14.200, and 14.800, of Ordinance 8 (Series of 1573} in order to allow a change of use from two lodge rooms to a dental office in units 7 and 8 of Pension .Isabel. The change of use requires one additional parking space. It was stated by the Zoning Administrator that Council advised her to ga ahead with pub- lication for a parking variance. She also stated that Dr. Wells is willing to purchase a parking space and that a dentist's office is a permitted use under the zoning ordinance. Jay Peterson, attorney for.~D.r. Wells, appeared for the hearing: He stated they were applying for either a variance or an exemption. He would tike to have the parking variance, which would allow the change of use. without providing any additional parking space. It was their position thaC there is an absolute right to change the use, as proposed, ~' and that Dr. wells' situation is the same as The 'Slope, Mr. Peterson ~; stated that the determinations made in-the past regarding variances should be applied in this instance. If the variance is denied,. he stated they were willing to sign an agreement to purchase the space. Mr. Peterson advised that from a legal standpoint, there was no choice in the matter but to commence legal proceedings in the event the request for variance or exemption is denied. Fle also advised that the reason for the change is that it was not economically feasible for Manfred Schober to have hotel rooms during summer; therefore, the change to office space. Mr. Lapin asked if the applicant for the change was Dr. Wells, and if the person responsible for purchasing the space was Mr. Schober. Mw. Peterson replied that that was not necessarily so. Mr. Peterson again stated he felt no parking should be :required for Dr. Wells and that the Council has the ultimate apprpval. Mr. Fritzlen stated that if the legalities turned out as Mr. Peterson advised, then what occurred at Planning Commission meeting was academic. He also stated that he felt the Planning Commission was concerned with keeping •'~ the quality of the core, in particular, by way of traffic.; appearance, etc., and not concerned with the legalities. He asked Mr. Peterson if ~~ ~ he had a recommendation for the Planning Commission to accomplish their goal. Mr, Peterson replied that the zonng'ord3nance must be changed in order to legally stop change of use. Mr. Peterson advised that if the variance .and/ar exemption were denied, he would advise Dr,: Wells - to go ahead with his plans and the`Town.could seek an injunction. Mr. Peterson stated they were trying to work with the Town; Mr. Lapin objected to that statement. Mr. Pierce suggested that the Planning Commission remain consistent in any action taken. Chairman David Sage read from the zoning ordinance, Section 19.600 - Criteria and Findings, before acting on a variance application. The Board felt that the type of use requested would call-for increased traffic and parking requirements which could not be satisfied in the existing. structure and concern for general public health and safety because of increased traffic. Mr, Sage. called for a vote to be taken based on granting a variance with no parking requirement.- Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was unanimously voted to deny the request for a variance. ,~ Chairman David Sage.read from the zoning ordinance, Section Iq~,.800 - Exemptions, regarding determinations to be made prior to granting a parking exemption. An exemption would be based upon allowing: purchase ~ of parking spaces in accordance with previous agreements with other parties. Before taking a vote, Mr. Fritzlen stated he would. like to recommend to Town Council that the Planning Commission cease considering these matters unless the .Planning Commission's recommendations are weighed more heavily. Mr. Lapin stated he would like to go on record as agreeing with Mr, Fritzlen`s comment. Mrs Sage, agreed. 'Mr. Hanlon also stated he agreed. Mr, Sage called for a vote to be taken based on granting an.exemption. Upon motion duly made and seconded, it was voted to deny the request for an exemption, as follows; -- Jen Wright - yes; Gordon Pierce - yes; Merv .Lapin - no; Bill Hanlon - no; Jack Fritzlen - no; Dave Sage - no, The exemption was denied because it was generally felt that the exemption is not in the interests of the area to be exempted and in the interests of the .Town at large, in accordance with Section 14.800 -- Exemptions. Mr. Fritzlen asked both Jen Wright and Gordon Pierce why they had voted yes to granting the exemption, in view of the Planning Commission`s prior agreement to request a 90-day moratorium on requests for changes of use. Mr. Wright replied that he had never voted far the moratorium because he was not present at that meeting, and he would have opposed it. Mr. Pierce replied that he had been in favor of the moratorium; however,. the ~~ ~ Planning Commission was being forced into making a decision now and he wanted to remain consistent with the prior agreements. _~_ ~~ ~ - ~` Tt was then pointed out that the Town Council, rather than the Planning Commission, was the correct body to vote an granting an exemption. Tn any event, Chairman David Sage stated he would write a memorandum to Town Council stating their recommendations based on the above action. Preliminary plans for TRACTS A AND B were then presented to the Planning Commission for preliminary review. Present from Vail Associates were Dick Peterson and Don Mclnduffer. Also present for this portion of the meeting were Terrell Minger, Town Manager, and. Mayor John Dobson. Chairman Bill Ruoff of the Design Review-Board was also present.- The plans were presented to receive the maximum amount of input from the Planning Gom- mission and Design Review Board, before Council approval. Jen Wright gave some background information of Tracts A and B. The-land is south of the Anthoiz property and east of the present Gold Peak .building. Vail Associates will develop the property themselves, thereby instituting better controls and quality, etc, Mr. Gordon Pierce was retained as Architect far the project. Two meetings had been held with Eldon Beck to discuss procedure. There are 10 acres of land, with a massing of buildings concept for the project, with heavy density to low residential. Plans call for 130 condominium units {450-500 beds) and 5 single family lots. Preliminary plans call for another ski lift running parallel to the Gold Peak lift. A curve in the present road is being planned.to slow down traffic and accommodate the intersection. There are proposed ski-home trails, touring trails, 2 ski lifts, 4 private tennis courts, swimming pool and small playground. Amassing model was presented (dated Nov. 6, x973), showing buildings in front slightly larger than residential, placed close up against the mountain. The number of roads coming into the project will be limited, with one road into underground parking - 85% of all cars underground, some above ground parking near tennis courts. With the exception of some minor items which can be corrected, project is in compliance-with zoning ordinance -- 10.4 acres, 38% gross residential floor area. Ordinance allows 6O% for HDMF. The single-family lot owners will each have their own lot - subdivision ownership. The tennis courts and common area will be owned as undivided interest among the condominium owners. No retail commercial space is planned. Mr. Lapin commented that he felt basically the. plans were excellent, but expressed concern regarding access to the property without-going ,~ through Town and a potential parking problem in relation to the proposed • new ski lift. Tt was agreed this may need further study. The Planning Commission stated concern that an additional ski lift would make Gold Peak a higher uphill capacity, with no .provision for additional parking. It was pointed out that a valid transportation system is a key factor. It was generally felt by the members of the, Commission that the concept was good, but that further study is necessary regarding the transportation system, parking, and circulation on the mountain. It was requested that David Sage prepare a memorandum to the Town Council stating comments of the Planning Commission regarding this matter. It was also noted that Mr, John Ryan will be preparing an Environmental Impact Report at the next preliminary approval point. As there was no further business to come before the meeting, the meeting adjourned at 4:00 P.M. - Secretary '~, APPROVED: Chairman ..3_