HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994-0124 PEC:7
PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION
January 24, 1994
AGENDA
Proiect Orientation /Lunch 12:00 P.M.
Site Visits 1:15 P.M.
Antlers
Public Hearing
2:00 P.M.
A request for a an update and determination regarding the completeness of the
Environmental Impact Report for a major subdivision (Trapper's Run) which would
create thirty Hillside Residential lots to be located on Lots 16, 19 and 21, Section 14,
Township 5 South, Range 81 West, generally located north of 1 -70 and west of the Vail
Ridge Subdivision.
Applicant: John Ulbrich, represented by Gateway Development
Planner: Jim Curnutte
2. A request for PEG review of the Vail Associates shop expansion conditions of previous
approval.
Applicant: Vail Associates, Inc.
Planner: Jim Curnutte
3. A request for a major CCII exterior alteration and a height variance to allow for the
enclosure of the elevator shaft for the Antlers Condominiums located at 680 West
Lionshead Place /Lot 3, Block 1, Vail Lionshead 3rd Filing.
Applicant: Antlers Condominium Association
Planner: Randy Stouder
4. A request for a minor subdivision and to rezone a tract from Primary/Secondary
Residential to Low Density Multi - Family, located at 2850 Kinnickinnick Road /more
specifically described as follows:
A parcel of land in the Southwest Quarter of Section 14, Township 5 South, Range 81 West of the 61h Principal Meridian, more
particularly described as follows:
Beginning at a point whence a brass cap set for a witness corner for the West Quarter of said Section 14, bears (North 29 degrees 28
minutes 51 seconds West, 1073.08 feet Deed) (North 43 Degrees 15 minutes 02 seconds West, 915.96 feet Measured); Thence North
74 degrees 05 minutes 19 seconds East, 10.76 feet; Thence 183.62 feet along the arc of a curve to the right which are subtends a
chord bearing North 88 degrees 12 minutes 30 seconds East, 181.76 feet; Thence South 77 degrees 40 minutes 21 seconds East,
6277 feet; Thence 147.43 feet along the arc of a curve to the left which arc subtends a chord bearing North 86 degrees 36 minutes 17
seconds East, 145.60 feet; Thence North 70 degrees 52 minutes 55 seconds East, 406.55 feet; Thence 54.10 feet along the are of a
curve to the right which arc subtends a chord bearing South 47 degrees 20 minutes 37 seconds East, 44.20 feet; Thence South 14
degrees 25 minutes 50 seconds West, 110.51 feet;
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Thence South 68 degrees 18 minutes 91 seconds West, 320.00 feet;
Thence North 19 degrees 07 minutes 05 seconds West, 50.00 feet;
Thence South 77 degrees 48 minutes 41 seconds West, 160.18 feet;
Thence South 10 degrees 53 minutes 33 seconds West, 36.48 feet;
Thence North 87 degrees 40 minutes 06 seconds West, 337.72 feet;
Thence (North 11 degrees 52 minutes 13 seconds East, 130.00 feet Deed) North 11 degrees 55 minutes 31 seconds East, 129.75 feet
Measured) to the POINT OF BEGINNING. .
Bearing from G.L.O. record for South half of Section Line between Sections 14 -15. (G.L.O. record South 01 degrees 3b.2 minutes East)
(South 01 degrees 38 minutes 32 seconds East Measured)
Applicant: Juanita I. Pedotto
Planner: Andy Knudtsen
TABLED TO FEBRUARY 14, 1994.
5. A request to relocate the helipad to the east end of the Ford Park parking lot located at
580 S. Frontage Road East/an unplatted parcel located between Vail Village 7th Filing
and Vail Village 8th Filing and a portion of the 1 -70 right -of -way.
Applicant: Vail Valley Medical Center
Planner: Andy Knudtsen
TABLED TO FEBRUARY 14, 1994
6. Review of Intermountain neighborhood meeting regarding the Pedotto rezoning
proposal.
7. Approve minutes from January 10, 1994 PEC meeting.
8. Council update:
•Helipad
9. Review of Planning Services for the PEC.
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PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION
January 24, 1994
MINUTES
MEMBERS PRESENT MEMBERS ABSENT STAFF PRESENT
Greg Amsden
Bill Anderson
Jeff Bowen
Diana Donovan
Kathy Langenwalter
Allison Lassoe
Dalton Williams
Kristan Pritz
Jim Curnutte
Randy Stouder
Tom Moorhead
A request for an update and determination regarding the completeness of the
Environmental Impact Report for a major subdivision (Trapper's Run) which would
create thirty Hillside Residential lots to be located on Lots 16, 19 and 21, Section 14,
Township 5 South, Range 81 West, generally located north of 1-70 and west of the Vail
Ridge Subdivision.
Applicant: John Ulbrich, represented by Gateway Development
Planner: Jim Curnutte
Jim Curnutte addressed the PEC stating that the applicant had submitted an
addendum to the Environmental Impact Report and that staff felt that it was not
complete. Jim also stated that the Town had just received a letter from Larry Eskwith,
the attorney representing the applicant, that requested to table this discussion until the
February 14, 1994, meeting.
Tom Moorhead stated that there had been conflicting reports regarding notice given
today by Larry Eskwith, and that he needs to get a more detailed explanation of what
exactly Larry is requesting. On Friday, Larry indicated that there was a problem having
consultants available for today's meeting. He also stated that he had some legal
concerns with how today's meeting was advertised. Tom was of the understanding
that the applicant would provide a more detailed explanation of their position at today's
meeting.
Jim stated that it was not clear what the applicant wanted to discuss on February 14,
1994 and that Larry Eskwith was not available to clarify.
Tom Moorhead stated it would definitely be on the agenda but what was to be
addressed was uncertain.
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Kathy Langenwalter explained to the public that the intention of today's hearing was to
discuss the completeness of the EIR, however, the applicant has requested that
today's discussion be tabled to February 14, 1994. The PEC was not clear if the next
meeting would be a review for a vote on the merits of the preliminary plan or just
discussion of the completeness of the EIR.
Jeff Bowen made a motion to table the Trappers Run issue to February 14, 1994, per
Larry Eskwith's letter of January 24, 1994. Bill Anderson seconded the motion. A 7-0
vote approved this request.
2. A request for PEC review of the Vail Associates shop expansion conditions of previous
approval.
Applicant: Vail Associates, Inc.
Planner: Jim Curnutte
Jim Curnutte made a presentation per the staff memo. He stated that at the PEC
meeting of July 26, 1993, a conditional use permit to expand the shop/vehicle
maintenance building was approved with eleven conditions. Two of the conditions
related to compliance with the Town of Vail noise ordinance and the snowcat parking
location on the property. The PEC considered moving the snowcat parking area from
the east side of the shop yard to the west side. Vail Associates stated that they were
open to the idea but suggested holding off until Vail Associates carries out procedures
to lessen noise.
Jim stated that staff has conducted a number of noise readings around the property to
determine compliance with the Town's noise ordinance. He also stated that the PEC
needed to make a determination as to which zone designation the shop yard should be
considered under. Jim stated that Vail Associates' mitigations measures have gone a
long way in reducing noise impacts on Vail Spa. Jim spoke with the manager of Vail
Spa who indicated that noise complaints are significantly less this season.
Tim Kehoe, representing Vail Associates, stated they were here to address questions.
Alice Cartwright wanted to know if Vail Associates was pursuing an alternate route for
snowcat access to the mountain.
Joe Macy, of Vail Associates, stated they were in fact looking at alternate routes.
Kathy Langenwalter stated that she felt comfortable reviewing this property for
compliance with the Town of Vail noise ordinance under the "industrial" designation.
She stated that the current use is industrial in nature and is a grandfathered activity in
the Arterial Business District. The purpose of this meeting was to reevaluate the two
conditions of approval from the July 26th PEC meeting.
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Bill Anderson stated that he believes that the use is preexisting and that Vail
Associates has done a good job reducing noise and lighting impacts on the property.
Diana Donovan, Jeff Bowen, Greg Amsden, Dalton Williams and Allison Lassoe all
agreed with Bill Anderson's comment.
Joe Macy stated that he appreciated the cooperation of Jim Curnutte and the Planning
and Environmental Commission in working out a solution to this issue.
Kristan Pritz stated that Bruce Chapman had planned to be in attendance for this
discussion but that he probably did not expect this item to be discussed so soon. She
suggested that we may want to discuss this item again when he gets here.
Dalton Williams stated that his concern was more with the Forest Road access, which
would be discussed at a later time. No vote was necessary on the item. The PEC
determined the use fell under the industrial designation as it was a legal
nonconforming use.
3. A request for a major CCII exterior alteration and a height variance to allow for the
enclosure of the elevator shaft for the Antlers Condominiums located at 680 West
Lionshead Place/Lot 3, Block 1, Vail Lionshead 3rd Filing.
Applicant: Antlers Condominium Association
Planner: Randy Stouder
Randy presented the proposal to the PEC. The Antler's is currently not readily
accessible for handicap persons. To comply with ADA regulations, the Antler's is
proposing a new elevator enclosure. Staff recommended approval of the variance and
the exterior alteration proposal based on the findings in the staff memo and the three
conditions in the staff memo.
Rob LeVine was present to represent the Antlers. Rob presented photographs to the
PEC of proposed areas to be changed. Rob stated that they had several leakage
problems at the Antlers that he thought would be taken care of with the changes
proposed. The question of bulk and mass was discussed. Rob stated that he had not
been able to address the roof forms question, as he had just heard about it last Friday
but he would be working on it.
There was no comment from the public.
Rob stated that substituting glass for the originally proposed plexiglass was not a
problem.
Kathy stated that the height of the roof should be minimized and the extension of the
planter needs to be verified structurally.
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Jeff Bowen made a motion to approve the smoked glass to match the existing entry
way glass, that the roof be designed in accordance with any DRB recommendation,
while minimizing the height, the planter will be expanded if it is possible structurally (if
it is not possible to expand the planters, trees will be added to the existing planter).
Dalton Williams seconded the motion.
Diana stated that aspen trees should be added to the planter to provide vertical
landscaping.
Kathy Langenwalter stated that glass to match the existing needed to be used.
A 7 -0 vote approved this request.
4. A request for a minor subdivision and to rezone a tract from Primary /Secondary
Residential to Low Density Multi - Family, located at 2850 Kinnickinnick Road /more
specifically described as follows:
A parcel of land in the Southwest Quarter of Section 14, Township 5 South, Range 81 West of the 6th Principal Meridian, more
particularly described as follows:
Beginning at a point whence a brass cap set for a witness corner for the West Quarter of said Section 14, bears (North 29 degrees 28
minutes 51 seconds West, 1073.08 feet Deed) (North 43 Degrees 15 minutes 02 seconds West, 915.96 feet Measured); Thence North
74 degrees 05 minutes 19 seconds East, 10.76 feet; Thence 183.62 feel along the are of a curve to the right which are subtends a
chord bearing North 88 degrees 12 minutes 30 seconds East, 181.76 feet; Thence South 77 degrees 40 minutes 21 seconds East,
62.77 feet; Thence 147.43 feet along the arc of a curve to the left which arc subtends a chord bearing North 86 degrees 36 minutes 17
seconds East, 145.60 feet; Thence North 70 degrees 52 minutes 55 seconds East, 406.55 feet; Thence 54.10 feet along the arc of a
curve to the right which arc subtends a chord bearing South 47 degrees 20 minutes 37 seconds East, 44.20 feet; Thence South 14
degrees 25 minutes 50 seconds West, 110.51 feet; -
Thence South 68 degrees 18 minutes 91 seconds West, 320.00 feet;
Thence North 19 degrees 07 minutes 05 seconds West, 50.00 feet;
Thence South 77 degrees 48 minutes 41 seconds West, 160.18 feet;
Thence South 10 degrees 53 minutes 33 seconds West, 36.48 feet;
Thence North 87 degrees 40 minutes 06 seconds West, 337.72 feet;
Thence (North 11 degrees 52 minutes 13 seconds East, 130.00 feet Deed) North 11 degrees 55 minutes 31 seconds East, 129.75 feet
Measured) to the POINT OF BEGINNING.
Bearing from G.L.O. record for South half of Section line between Sections 14 -15. (G.L.O. record South 01 degrees 30.2 minutes East)
(South 01 degrees 38 minutes 32 seconds East Measured)
Applicant: Juanita 1. Pedotto
Planner: Andy Knudtsen TABLED TO FEBRUARY 14, 1994.
Jeff Bowen made a motion to table this issue and Dalton Williams seconded the
motion. A 6 -0 vote tabled this item until February 14, 1994 with Greg Amsden
abstaining from this item.
5. A request to relocate the helipad to the east end of the Ford Park parking lot located at
580 S. Frontage Road East/an unplatted parcel located between Vail Village 7th Filing
and Vail Village 8th Filing and a portion of the 1-70 right -of -way.
Applicant: Vail Valley Medical Center
Planner: Andy Knudtsen TABLED TO FEBRUARY 14, 1994
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Kristan stated that expanding the landing pad for the helipad had been requested by
the hospital. She stated that the hospital needs to bring in a solution to relocate the
pad per Town Council's request. Bob Armour, Vail Mountain Rescue, stated he was
putting a letter together regarding a new helipad. He stated there was a need for an
authorized, controlled access for the landing of emergency vehicles. The current
location is not controlled. The pad needs to be large enough to accommodate larger
aircraft. Air Ambulance Service needs a larger access available.
Jeff Bowen made a motion to table this item until February 14, 1994 with Dalton
Williams seconding the motion. A 7-0 vote tabled this item until February 14, 1994.
6. Review of Intermountain neighborhood meeting regarding the Pedotto rezoning
proposal.
Andy Knudtsen reviewed the Pedotto Neighborhood Meeting with the PEC. He stated
there was a good turnout, with approximately 2 hours of discussion. Comments
focused on traffic and parking. Existing problems that need to be addressed now
include stop signs on Bassingdale and Bellflower. A citizen in the audience stated that
these stop signs had been installed, but traffic was still travelling too fast. Andy stated
that both the Town Engineer and the Town Police Chief had been brought up to date
with the concerns expressed at the meeting and were trying to solve the problem.
Several neighbors emphasized the need for better sidewalks in the area. Pedestrian
safety was a concern of most of the neighbors. Many people expressed concern about
the parking. They are concerned that cars will be parked not only within the
development but will overflow within the existing developments. One of the specific
concerns was that people would use their garages for storage which would prohibit the
use of them for parking. Two solutions that were suggested were to include as part of
the homeowner's declaration, standards identifying parking locations for owners and
guests. In addition, someone suggested that the architect include a small storage area
adjacent to the garages to increase the likelihood that the garages will be used for
parking. Another major concern was in regards to the architectural character. The
sizes of the homes as well as the character of the homes was a concern. People
wanted to see more than "cracker boxes". People also wanted assurance that the
wetland area in the center of the site would not be impacted. Neighbors were
concerned about phasing, specifically that the proposed developer would get an
increase in density, but not complete the project per the standards described at the
meeting. In response, staff made it clear to the neighbors that the platted building
envelopes would assure the neighborhood that any developer who worked on this
project would have to conform to this subdivision plat.
Lastly, some of the neighbors expressed concern about the increase in density. Some
expressed a desire for the Residential Cluster zone district with the belief that there
would be too much density on this site.
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Greg Amsden stated that architectural elevations for the area are to be presented at
the next meeting. Parking regulations will also be addressed. The Environmental
Assessment will be reviewed by staff. The Police Department has also been
requested to patrol the area during more frequently used times.
7. Approve minutes from January 10, 1994 PEC meeting.
Jeff Bowen made a motion to approve the minutes with Dalton Williams seconding the
motion. A 7-0 vote approved the minutes from the January 10, 1994 meeting.
8. Council update:
-Helipad
Jeff Bowen was appointed as the PEC representative and Dalton Williams as an
alternate. Kristan stated that all were welcome to attend meetings and staff would try
to provide a schedule when meetings are set.
9. Review of Planning Services for the PEC.
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Planning and Environmental Commission
FROM: Community Development Department
DATE: January 24, 1994
SUBJECT: A request for a height variance and a major exterior alteration of the Antlers
Condominium building located at 680 West Lionshead Place/Lot 3, Block 1 Vail
Lionshead 3rd Filing.
Applicant: Rob Levine for the Antlers Condominium Association
Planner: Randy Stouder
1. DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPOSED REQUEST
The applicant is requesting approval of an application for a major exterior alteration and a height
variance to allow for the construction of new elevator landings and walkways that will provide
access to all levels of the condominium building. The applicant also proposes to construct an "L-
shaped" solar plexiglass and aluminum structure to enclose and protect the new above-grade
elevator landings and walkways from exposure to the weather. The enclosure would wrap around
the west and north sides of the existing elevator tower and stairwell, extending out approximately
6 feet in both directions. The enclosure would extend from the parking deck to the base of the
eighth floor. The building height will not change, however, a height variance is necessary since
the existing elevator tower exceeds the 48 foot height restriction in the Commercial Core 11 (CCII)
zone district, and since the proposed enclosure would extend to a height of 58 feet above existing
grade. A ten foot height variance is requested.
111. BACKGROUND
This application was generated in an attempt to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act
(ADA) provisions related to access for the disabled. The current elevator has only three landings
which are located between the second and third, the fourth and fifth, and the sixth and seventh
floors. Stairs must be used to access any level of the condominium building except the ground
floor level. The applicant proposes to locate new elevator landings on the 2nd through 7th levels,
which will provide direct access for disabled individuals to condominiums on these levels. The
applicant also proposes new elevator, doors which will allow access to the ground floor level and
the conference center level. Thus, access for disabled individuals will be provided to all levels
of the building.
III. ZONING CONSIDERATIONS
The following summarizes the applicable zoning statistics related to this exterior alteration
request. The proposed enclosure of the elevator landing areas will result in the addition of
approximately 668 square feet of common area. No additional GRFA is proposed. The existing
maximum height of the building is 71 feet; the existing height of the elevator shaft is 58 feet. A
height variance is necessary since the proposal will increase the area of the building that exceeds
the 48-foot height restriction. The requested additional enclosed floor area would be located over
existing building and parking ,deck areas, thus, there will not be any increase in site coverage.
A. Zone District:
Commercial Core 11
B. Lot Area: 52,390 square feet (100% buildable)
C. Allowable GRFA: 0.80 x 52,390 = 41, 912 square feet
Allowable Common Area: 0.35 x 41,912 = 14, 669 square feet
Existing + Proposed Common Area: = 14, 173 square feet
D. Height Limitation: 48 feet
Existing building height: 71 feet
Existing height of elevator tower: 58 feet
Prop. height of elevator tower enclosure: 58 feet
E. Site Coverage Allowed: 70%
Existing Site Coverage: 57%
F. Setback Requirements: 10' (all)
Setback Provided: 20',20',14',12'
IV. REVIEW CRITERIA FOR THIS PROPOSAL
Section 18.26.045 of the Zoning Ordinance requires that any proposal for an exterior alteration
of a building located in the CCII zone district must comply with: the purposes of that zone district,
all applicable elements of the Vail Lionshead Urban Design Guide Plan and Design
Considerations, and the Vail Comprehensive Plan. The proposal should not negatively alter the
character of the neighborhood. The Vail Lionshead Urban Design Guide Plan contains sub-area
concepts which identify specific areas for future development and other desired improvements.
The Design Considerations portion of the Guide Plan express general architectural and urban
design concepts that will be applied to any development in the Lionshead area. The Vail Land
Use Plan contains general goals and policies that pertain to any development within the Town.
The following sections of this memorandum provide relevant citations from the design and
planning documents mentioned above. These citations are followed by a short discussion of the
issues related to the application.
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V. COMPLIANCE WITH THE PURPOSE SECTION OF THE COMMERCIAL CORE II ZONE
DISTRICT
18.24.010 Purpose:
"The "Commercial Core II District is intended to provide sites for a mixture of multiple
dwellings, lodges and commercial establishments in a clustered, unified development.
The Commercial Core II District, in accordance with the Vail Lionshead Urban Design
Guide Plan and Design Considerations, is intended to ensure adequate light, air, open
space and other amenities appropriate to the permitted types of building and uses and to
maintain the desirable qualities of the district by establishing appropriate site development
standards."
It is the staff's opinion that the proposed change to the Antlers Condominium Building is in
compliance with the purpose section of the Commercial Core II Zone District as stated above.
Vi. COMPLIANCE WITH THE VAIL LIONSHEAD DESIGN GUIDE PLAN
There are no specific sub -area concepts relevant to this proposal.
VII. COMPLIANCE WITH THE VAIL LIONSHEAD DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS
The following design considerations are a critical element of the Urban Design Guide Plan. They
identify the key physical characteristics of Lionshead and provide the tools to ensure that
development is consistent with the established character of the neighborhood. The design
considerations include the following:
A. Height and Massing:
While the application does not increase the maximum height of the building, it does
increase the overall mass and bulk of the building by adding and enclosing additional floor
area around the central portion of the structure. The addition extends the taller portion
of the building further west, and partially impairs views of the Vail mountain ski area from
the Radisson building and pool deck.
Staff acknowledges the applicant's desire to comply with ADA requirements by providing
access for disabled individuals to all levels of the building. The applicant has explored
several other options and maintains that the proposed alternative is the only feasible
approach to providing the required access short of major re- construction within the
building. A memorandum from Rob Levine to the Antler's Condominium Association
Board discussing the alternatives is attached to this memorandum.
B. Roofing:
The applicant proposes a shed roof on top of the seventh floor landing enclosure. The
proposed roofing materials are solar plexiglass in aluminum fenestration. Details of how
the shed roof will tie into the existing roof lines over the elevator tower are not apparent
from the materials submitted. The drawings indicate that the new enclosure would not
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extend up and connect to the existing roof line on the western side of the elevator shaft.
Extending the enclosure up to tie into the existing roof lines would increase the height of
the enclosure approximately half a floor. However, this extension would tie the structure
into the existing architecture and reduce the "add on" look of the enclosure. This would
allow the extension of the existing roof over the enclosure.
Two separate roof pitches are proposed, one to the west and one to the north. How these
pitches come together at the northwest corner of the roof is not explained. The proposed
roof design appears to shed snow and ice in two separate directions. One roof pitch
would shed snow to the north, down onto the roof over the entrance to the condominium
offices. The other pitch would shed snow onto the parking structure along the west side
of the proposed elevator landing enclosure. Snow shedding onto the parking structure
raises pedestrian safety concerns.
Snow shedding and roof drainage provisions, and roof line compatibility and design issues
need to be explored in more detail. The applicant has been made aware of these issues,
and they will be addressed during the design review portion of the exterior alteration
application process.
C. Facade Wall Structures:
Smoked, tempered glass in anodized aluminum fenestration has already been used in
existing window treatments throughout the building, and to provide a foyer at the entrance
to the condominium offices. Solar plexiglass was installed on the stair tower.
Concrete, glass, metal, wood and stucco are the primary materials used in Lionshead.
Thus, these materials are preferred and recommended in the Design Guidelines. The
applicant proposes to construct the enclosure using bronzed plexiglass framed by
anodized aluminum fenestration. Staff believes that smoked, tempered glass is a more
appropriate, permanent building material than plexiglass. The applicant has agreed to this
change in materials.
D. Facade Transparency:
The facade transparency guidelines are generally applied to ground floor commercial
development, and are not applicable to this application.
E. Decks and Patios:
Decks and patios are not included in the application.
F. Accent Elements:
The goal of the architectural design for the enclosure should be to blend the structure into
the existing building and prevent the enclosure from looking like an "add -on ". To achieve
this goal, it may be desirable to duplicate or extend existing materials and architectural
features. An example of this would be to construct the enclosure so that the existing roof
line could extend down to form the roof over the enclosure, as discussed above. It may
also be desirable to utilize a capping accent composed of the existing concrete aggregate
16 facade that is used on the elevator shaft tower. These design issues will be presented
to the Design Review Board during the design review phase of the application process.
G. Landscape Elements:
The applicant is not proposing any landscaping. Staff feels that the existing timber
planter, located in front of the condominium offices, could be extended out to the east,
north and west, with additional plant materials placed to help soften the appearance of the
relatively stark north elevation of the building. Aspens trees would enliven the north
elevation, particularly during non - winter months, and would help to draw pedestrian
attention away from the upper levels of the building where the increased mass and bulk
of the enclosure will have the greatest impact.
H. Service and Delivery:
The proposed expansion will not affect current service and delivery patterns.
VIII. COMPLIANCE WITH THE VAIL LAND USE PLAN
"Goal #1.3 The quality of development should be maintained and upgraded whenever
possible."
As stated previously, the main purpose of this application is to upgrade an existing lodging
is development by providing access to accommodation units and conference facilities for
disabled individuals. However, architectural compatibility, landscaping, and visual impacts
related to the proposal must be analyzed and addressed appropriately. These issues are
discussed above.
IX. CRITERIA AND FINDINGS
Section 18.62.060 of the Vail Municipal Code requires, that prior to granting of a variance, the
commission must consider the following factors.
A. Consideration of Factors:
1. The relationship of the requested variance to other existing or potential
uses and structures in the vicinity.
The proposed enclosure will increase the mass and bulk of the building and will
partially impair views of Vail mountain from the Radisson. The Planning and
Environmental Commission must weigh this impact against the desire /need of the
Antlers Condominium Association to provide access to lodging and conference
facilities for disabled individuals.
2. The degree to which relief from the strict and literal interpretation and
enforcement of a specified regulation is necessary to achieve compatibility
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and uniformity of treatment among sites in the vicinity or to attain the
objectives of this title without grant of special privilege.
The Antlers Condominiums were constructed prior to enactment of the current 48-
foot height restriction in the CCiI Zone District. Thus, the current building is
nonconforming in regard to its height. A height variance is required to allow the
construction of the proposed elevator landings and enclosure. The variance will
not provide the building with additional usable space; it simply provides access to
all floors of the building for disabled individuals. The ADA requires that the Antlers
building to be accessible for disabled individuals, and the applicant is trying to
provide accessibility in the most feasible way. Approval of a height variance will
not provide Antlers with any special privilege, nor will it increase the existing
maximum height of the building which is currently 71 feet.
3. The effect of the requested variance on light and air, distribution of
population, transportation and traff ic facilities, public facilities and utilities,
and public safety.
The request will have no effect on light and air, with the exception of the
impairment of views from the Radisson as mentioned in the discussion under
factor #1 above. The request will not adversely affect the distribution 'of
population, transportation and traffic facilities, public facilities and utilities, or public
safety.
B. The Planning and Environmental Commission shall make the following findings
before granting a variance:
1. That the granting of the variance will not constitute a grant of special
privilege inconsistent with the limitations on other properties classified in
the same district.
2. That the granting of the variance will not be detrimental to the public
health, safety or welfare, or materially injurious to properties or
improvements in the vicinity.
3. That the variance is warranted for one or more of the following reasons:
a. The strict literal interpretation or enforcement of the specified
regulation would result in practical difficulty or unnecessary physical
hardship inconsistent with the objectives of this title.
b. There are exceptions or extraordinary circumstances or conditions
applicable to the same site of the variance that do not apply
generally to other properties in the same zone.
C. The strict interpretation or enforcement of the specified regulation
would deprive the applicant of privileges enjoyed by the owners of
other properties in the same district.
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X. STAFF DISCUSSION AND RECOMMENDATION
Staff is recommending approval of the application for a height variance and approval of the
application for a major exterior alteration to allow the construction of the proposed elevator
landings and enclosure. This recommendation is based on the opinion of staff that- the strict
imposition of the height restriction provision of the Zoning Ordinance would prevent the applicant
from addressing the access provisions of the Americans with Disabilities. Act in the most feasible
and efficient manner. We feel that the requested variance will not have an adverse impact on,
the adjacent structures and uses, except for a minor impairment of views of Vail mountain from
the Radisson property. Approving the variance will not extend any special privilege to the Antlers
Condominium Association, however, it will allow the association to comply with the ADA and thus
improve the quality of the accommodation services in the Lionshead area.
Staff recommends approval of the request with the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall use smoked, tempered glass instead of plexiglass in the
construction of the enclosure.
2. The applicant shall design the roof over the enclosure so that it will not shed snow and
ice down onto parking or pedestrian areas.
3. The applicant shall extend the existing planter, located in front of the condominium
association offices, approximately four feet to the west, three feet to the north, and 20 feet
to the east (to the eastern -most corner of the association offices). The applicant shall
install a minimum of fourteen to sixteen 2" caliper (or larger) aspen trees, along with other
low growing shrubs and /or flowering plants to fill in the planter.
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Date! November 16, 1993
From: Antlers Condominium Association
To! Town of Vail Colamilwlpity Development Department
S bier -t; E 1 e�l a t o r Redesign
in an attempt to comply with the Americans with Disabilities Act [ADA], as
to Sim
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.Pll improve the existing facilities for all guests and owners.
th .aYltlrlrs would like to apply for an exterior alteration as well as a
variance in order to redesign the existing elevator.,
T11— ori-inal (and existing) elevator was built with three landings. This,
uesDi f
he fact that the Antlers has eight floors. The landings are
located between the second and third floor; the fourth and
fifty floora
and between the sixth and seventh floor'. Other than the very
c"I-o.11nd floor which can be entered on grade at the property's east end. it is
ondominium in the building without
to access any individual
at least seven steps. Whoever designed this elevator had a unique
--ea how to save money or a very warped sense of humor (or both).
After mtore than tl,aIo gears of investigation. the Antlers would like to submit
tile attached plan. Our original desire was to simply replace the current
elevator in the existing shaft. it is centrally located, next to the lobby
d i Y , act i , V accessible from the upper parking lot. Unfortunately we found
that the size of the existing shaft was not large enough to accommodate an
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ei�-VaLOT' Ix, ir-1--, --t the strict size requirements of ADA. The shaft is
s�,rrounded with the "twin T"- prestress concrete construction that forms the
r arlina_, deck. Enlarging the shaft would mean having to cut the "T's".
This was deemed far too expensive and difficult a project to undertake.
..any other locations were considered. and as can be seen from
the attached sheet Al dated 5/12/93, three were drawn and presented to the
Condoniini,--a ownership. Each had difficulty of access to some portion
the building. as well as negative impact on some number of individual
I= in11 -I .views. Alternate locations 41. #2 and #3 were not very well
received (S?IriDrise, surprise). However. the idea of I replacing the elevator
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current location was highly supported ts
rted at the September 1993 owners
J--- The owners voted to assess themselves to pay for the project,
existimf, location (shown as #4 on the plans) was -us e
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Ifie attached plans show an elevator which will directly access each of the
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f .-st seven floors (eighth floor access is not required) as well as both
parkin, lots and the conference area. which are located at "half" levels.
The only drawback is that while it will accommodate a wheelchair. it does not
meet the strict dimensions specified by ADA. On the recomendation of Gary
Murain. I discussed the matter with Randy Lipner at "Meeting the Challenge' ".
an Aak consultation service appointed by the U.S. Justice Department. H-e
interpreted the size requirements to be for new construction and that the
remodel of 11 " existing facilities such as ours only required what was readily
aciyi Based on my description of the change. he thought our proposal
was completely appropriate.
par submitted plans require new exterior landings to be constructed on floors
three through seven. Due to western exposure of the new elevator doors and
the resulting weather
implications, we feel it is vital to enclose those
landings. Hence the necessity for an exterior alteration. The height
of the expanded area trill not be as high as the current topmost ridgel-Ine of
t.he !building. Which is 71 feet above grade. However. it will be expanding
the area which is 58 feet high. requiring the height variance.
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from the north elevation. there is currently 125 lineal
feet (east to i�est) of ridgeline which is at the 71 foot height. The
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---vator shaft which is 58 feet high will be extended by six lineal feet (to
the west). Each of these heights are tempered by the fact that nine feet is
nelow the upper parking level. While technically above grade. the visual
impact from the
street or from Radisson's swimming pool is actually nine feet
les-s than the 71 and 58 foot measurements.
The aciditional square footage created by the new landings and walkways will
in cease the colanon area by a total of 693 square feet. , The present hallways
are not enclosed. nor are the p
arking lots; so there is a total of 11.000
square feet of existing common area which consists of the following:
Meeting Rooms -
2800 s.f. Lobby 3 0 5
Caterin-, Kitchen 250 Offices 950
ElhaDlovee Lunchroom 200 Laundry 350
Pool Equipment 200 Storage 2300
Telephone Equipment 150 Maintenance 250
2200 Ski storage 300
Res t rooms/Saunas 500
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plexi-lass screen in zed
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fenestration. This will match the current finish on the existin-
stair tower as i��ell as that between the building and the upper parking dectk.
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The attached plans show an elevator which will directly access each of the
first seven floors (eighth floor access is not required) as well as both
parking lots and the conference area, which are located at "half" levels.
The only drawback is that while it will accannodate a wheelchair, it does not
meet the strict dimensions specified by ADD. On the recommendation of Gary
Murain, i discussed the matter with Randy Dipner at "Meeting the Challenge",
an ADA consultation service appointed by the U.S. Justice Department. He
interpreted the size requirements to be for 4qy—pppqtruq i j and that the
remodel of existing facilities such as ours only requiredw'hat was "readily
achievable". Based on my description of the change, he thought our proposal
was ccnnplete].��, appropriate.
Ckir submitted plans require new exterior landings to be constructed an floors
three through seven. Due to western exposure of the new elevator doors and
the resulting weather implications, we feel it is vital to enclose those
landings. Hence the necessity for an exterior alteration. The height
of the expanded area will not be as high as the current topmost ridgeline of
the building. which is 71 feet above grade. However, it will be expandin
the area which is 58 feet highl requiring the height variance. rl&�
Viewing the buj'.—,jjj-ttT_ f the north elevation, there is currently 125 lineal
feet (east to west) of ridgeline which is at the 71 of height. The
elevator shaft which is 58 feet high will be extended by six lineal feet (to
the west). Each of these heights are tempered by the fact that nine feet'is
below the upper parking level. While technically above grade, the visual
inapa-,A from the street or from Radisson's swimming pool is actually nine feet
less than the 71 and 58 foot measurements.
The additional square footage created bT the new landings and walkways will
increase the corinion area lby a of of 693 square feet. The present hallways
are not enclosed. nor are the parking lots; so there is a total of 11,000
square feet of existiu ccxamcwt area which consists of the following.
Meeting Rooms
2800 W.
LobtIrg,
550
Caterinq Kitchen
230
Offices
950
E-i'apioyee Lwna',riro�orp,
200
Lainadry
350
Pl Equi!panent
200
Storage
2300
Telephone Equipment
130
Maintenance
250
2200
Ski storage
300
"�estrciojns/Sa-tuaas
500
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Planning and Environmental Commission
FROM: Community Development Department
DATE: January 24, 1994
SUBJECT: A request for an update and determination regarding the completeness
of the Environmental Impact Report for a major subdivision (Trapper's
Run) which would create 30 Hillside Residential Lots to be located on
Lots 16, 19 and 21, Section 14, Township 5 South, Range 81 West,
generally located north of 1-70 and west of the Vail Ridge Subdivision.
Applicant: John Ulbrich, represented by Gateway Development
Planner: Jim Curnutte
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INTRODUCTION
The developers of the proposed Trapper's Run Subdivision have recently amended and
resubmitted their preliminary subdivision application. The applicants have made substantial
changes to the preliminary layout of the proposed subdivision in response to comments raised
at the November 8, 1993 PEC worksession, as well as the staff and neighborhood comments
which were relayed to the app1cant in writing at the November 8th meeting. The most
substantial changes to the proposed subdivision, since last reviewed by the PEC on
November 8th, include the fact that the boundaries of the Trapper's Run subdivision have
been amended to exclude Lot 8, Vail Ridge subdivision, access to all but one of the 30 lots
within Trapper's Run will be provided via an extension of Cortina Lane, three bridge crossings
of the existing drainage way are being proposed, all road grades will be 8% or less and all
proposed retaining walls will be six feet or less, thereby eliminating the need for any variances
on the property, and the open space tract formerly proposed in the area of lower Arosa Drive
has been eliminated.
Section 17.16.070 (Preliminary Plan - Submittal Requirements) requires that an Environmental
Impact Report accompany the submittal of a preliminary subdivision plan application. Staff
has reviewed the addendum to the Environmental Impact Report, submitted on December 27,
1993, and has determined that the report is incomplete. Attachment #1 is a copy of the letter
given to the applicant which identifies deficiencies in the Environmental Impact Report and
supplemental information. The, purpose of today's meeting is to update the PEC and public
on the changes that have been made to the subdivision as well as to allow the PEC to
determine the completeness of the Trapper's Run Environmental Impact Report. A copy of
Chapter 18.56 (Environmental Impact Reports) is attached (Attachment #2) for the PEC's
review.
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Section 18.56.100 (Review -Time Limit - Supplementary Information) states that:
is "A. The Planning Commission shall review the report within thirty (30) days of
submission subject to an extension of the time period thirty (30) additional days
in order to obtain additional information from the town staff, from the sponsor of
the project, or the author of any portion of the report.
B. The Planning Commission may receive additional statements or supporting
materials from the sponsor of the project from the town staff, from professional
consultants, or from others. Such additional material may be considered as
supplementary or amendatory to the Environmental Impact Report."
Staff recommends that the PEC review the following sections of the Town of Vail
Environmental Impact Report chapter while determining the completeness of the Trapper's
Run Environmental Impact Report.
Section 18.56.010 (Environmental Impact Reports - Purpose) states that the:
"Submission and review of an Environmental Impact Report on any private
development proposal, or public project which may affect to any significant degree the
quality of the environment in the town or in surrounding areas is required to achieve
the following objectives:
A. To ensure that complete information on the environmental effects of the
proposed project is available to the Town Council, the Planning Commission
and the general public;.
S. To ensure that long -term protection of the environment is a guiding criterion in
project planning, and that land use and development decisions, both public and
private, take into account the relative merits of possible alternative actions;
C. To provide procedures for local review and evaluation of the environmental
effects of proposed projects prior to granting of permits or other authorizations
for commencement of development;
D. To ensure that buildings are not constructed in geologic hazard areas, by way
of illustration, floodplains, avalanche paths, rockfall areas, where such hazard
cannot practically be mitigated to the satisfaction of the Planning Commission
and the Town Council;
E. To ensure that the quality of surface water and ground water within the town
will be protected from adverse impacts and/or degradation due to construction
activities."
"The Environmental Impact Report shall be based on systematic studies conducted by
professional consultants. The range of studies needed to develop the technical data for an
Environmental Impact Report includes the following natural systems and other studies:
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Hydrologic condlitions
2.
Atmospheric conditions
3.
Geologic conditions
4.
Biotic conditions
5.
Other environmental conditions
6.
Visual conditions
7.
Land use conditions
8.
Circulation and transportation conditions
9.
Population characteristics
Section 18.56.050 (A) (Report-.Contents) states that:
"The Environmental Impact Report shall contain information and analysis, in sufficient
detail and adequately supported by technical studies, to enable the Town Council to
judge the environmental impact of the project and to judge measures proposed to
reduce or negate any harmful impacts."
Section 18.56.050(C) (Report-Contents) states that:
"The Environmental Impact Report shall include an environmental inventory, providing
complete information on the environmental setting existing prior to the proposed project
and containing sufficient information to permit individual evaluation by reviewers of
factors that could be affected by the proposed project..."
Section 18.56.050(E) (Report - Contents) states that:
The Environmental Impact Report shall include a comprehensive, qualitative and
quantitative analysis of any significant impact that the proposed project will have on the
environment. The analysis shall describe temporary effects that will prevail during
construction and long term affects that will prevail after completion. The analysis shall
describe both beneficial effects and detrimental effects. The analysis shall consider
primary effects and secondary effects which will result from the project. The analysis
portion of the Environmental Impact Report shall fully assess the following items:
1. Adverse effects which cannot be avoided if the proposal is implemented;
2. Mitigation measures proposed to minimize the impact, including water
quality, erosion control and vegetation measures,
3. Possible alternatives to the proposed action;
4. Relationship between the short term and long term uses of the
environment;
5. Irreversible environmental changes resulting from implementation of the
proposall;
6. Growth inducing impacts of the project."
Additionally, the zoning administrator may further prescribe the form and content of an
Environmental Impact Report, setting forth in greater detail the factors to be considered and
the manner in which the report shall be prepared, and may require submission of information
in addition to that previously mentioned.
Staff Recommendation,
Staff recommends that the PEG determine that the Trapper's Run Environmental Impact
Report is incomplete. Staff further recommends that the PEC provide direction to the
applicant regarding the information, and level of detail, necessary to complete the report and
allow for adequate review of a11I possible impacts associated with the proposed subdivision.
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75 South Frontage Road
Vail, Colorado 81657
FAX 303-479-2452
January 12, 1994
Mr. Gary Arthur, President
Gateway Development, Inc.
2303 East Dartmouth Avenue
Englewood, CO 80110
RE: Preliminary review of amended Trappers Run Subdivision application
Dear Gary:
Thank you for your most recent amended Trappers Run preliminary subdivision application.
The Town of Vail Development Review Team has completed our initial review and have
determined that your application is incomplete. in order for thS planning staff to
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adequately rmviBthe irnpac1mof your proposed major aubdiviSion,vverGqu$stthatyOu
respond to the following list of questions and comments. This |oltgr identifies the lack of
response, or inadequate response, to the questions and comments raised in our previous
letter dated October 25' 1883 as well as, requests additional information necessary to
review the amendments you have made tothe subdivision since our last review. This
letter should not be construed to be @ complete list of all staff comments related to the
project, but rather on identification of additional information ngoe8aorY for staff to
adequately review your proposed preliminary subdivision application.
Attached to this letter are additional review comments rnodG by the Town of Vail Public
VVnrkG C]aportn0Gnt' Fire Department and Environmental Health Department. We request
that you review and respond to each of the comments listed in these attachments.
Staff would recommend that you pay special attendontonPmnp|edngyourEnvironrnant8|
Impact Report which currently does not contain information and analysis, in sufficient
detail to enable the staff and Planning and Environmental Commission (PEC) toassess the
environmental impacts of the proposed project. Deficiencies in the BR or base data are
indicated in bold in order to differentiate them from other comments.
1 Perhaps the most significant deficiency of your application is the fact that
your Environmental Impact Report does not adequately address alternatives.
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ATTACHMENT #1
At
TOWN 06F 4VAIL
75 South Frontage Rood Department of Community Development
kad, Colorado 8lU57
303~479-21381479-2130
FAX 303-479-2452
January 12'18S4
Mr. Gary Arthur, President
Gateway Development, Inc.
2303 East Dartmouth Avenue
Englewood, CO 80110
RE: Preliminary review of amended Trappers Run Subdivision application
Dear Gary:
Thank you for your most recent amended Trappers Run preliminary subdivision application.
The Town of Vail Development Review Team has completed our initial review and have
determined that your application is incomplete. in order for the planning staff to
adequately review the impacts of your proposed major Subdiviaion,vverequaetthatyou
respond to the following list Of questions and comments. This letter identifies the lack Qf
response, or inadequate response, to the questions and comments raised in our previous
letter dated October 25, 1993 as well as, requests additional information necessary to
review the arn8Odnl8nts you have made tothe subdivision since our |OSt review. This
letter should not be construed to be o complete list of all staff c.0n0nngnta na|nt8d to the
project, but [ether an identification of additional information necessary for staff to
adequately review your proposed preliminary subdivision application.
Attached to this letter are additional review oon)rngnta made by the Town of Vail Public
VVorho Department, Fire Department and Environmental Health Department. We request
that you review and respond to each uf the comments listed in these attachments.
Staff would r8COnnrnend that you pay special attention to completing your Environmental
Impact Report which currently does not contain information and analysis, in sufficient
detail t0 enable the staff and Planning and Environmental Commission (PEC)toassess the
environmental impacts of the proposed project. Deficiencies in the BR or base data are
indicated in bold in order to differentiate them from other comments.
1 . Perhaps the most mhgnR|cemt deficiency of your application is the fact that
your Environmental Impact Report does not adequately address alternatives.
Various development alternatives must be evaluated throughout the
Environmental Impact Report which ultimately provide a justification to
proceed with the preferred alternative. An "alternative" section must be
added to your EIR which explores, in detail, the impacts of alternative road
alignments to and within the subdivision, as well as different development
scenarios with regard to the number of the lots.
2. Another concern with your Environmental Impact Report is that it appears
that each of the studies prepared by your consultants were done
independently of each other and not cross - referenced throughout the
document. Many of the consultants do not appear to be aware of the
identified impacts, conclusions and suggested mitigation measures contained
in the other sections of the report. An example of this would include the
fact that it is suggested that a substantial portion of the property be
dewatered through grading and piping yet possible impacts of this procedure
are not discussed in any other section of the report. Please provide a
statement from each consultant in their section which indicates that they
have reviewed the entire Environmental Impact Report and are aware of the
effects of the proposed project as a whole. Cross - references identifying the
impacts of suggested mitigation in other sections of the report should be
made wherever applicable. For example, it would be appropriate for the
consultant doing the vegetation analysis to discuss impacts associated with
the proposed dewatering of the landslide area.
3. As mentioned in the October 25, 1993 letter, it is necessary to provide a
page numbering system throughout the document to allow reference to
specific sections. Please number all pages in the Environmental Impact
Report.
4. Staff has serious reservations concerning your decision to prohibit caretaker
units within the Trappers Run Subdivision. The Town encourages the
provision of affordable housing whenever and wherever possible. Your
proposed deletion of caretaker units in the subdivision would permanently
preclude the opportunity for future lot owners to provide reasonably sized,
affordable housing units to employees in the Vail Valley. If your decision to
propose the deletion of all caretaker units in Trappers Run is prompted by
your desire to reduce traffic impacts on Cortina Lane, staff would suggest
that you accomplish this by reducing your proposed number of lots rather
than the deletion of caretaker units.
5. At the November 5, 1995 PEC worksession, all seven PEC members
expressed concerns with the number of lots in your proposed project and
associated environmental impacts on the Trappers Run property. Each of the
members suggested a significant reduction in the number of lots you were
proposing on the property (34). It is staff =s opinion that your proposal to
eliminate the provision of caretaker units on each of the thirty lots, does not
address the PEC's concerns since the road, retaining wall, and building
construction impacts are virtually unchanged. The most appropriate way to
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address the PEC's concerns regarding density reduction is not through the
deletion of caretaker units but through a reduction in number of lots being
proposed on this property, in order to decrease environmental impacts.
6. Staff recommends that the two plat restrictions you are proposing to place
on the final plat be amended to eliminate plat restriction #2 and to amend
plat restriction #1 as follows;
1. The development of all lots within Trappers faun Subdivision
shall comply with Section 1 8.69.050 of the Vail (Municipal
Code except that the maximum GRFA allowed on each lot shall
be 4,781 square feet, however an additional 425 square feet
of GRFA shall be allowed if a caretaker unit is constructed.
7. As you are aware, the minimum lot area within the Hillside Residential zone
district is 21,790 square feet of continuous buildable area. It does not
appear that all of the lots in this subdivision meet the minimum contiguous
buildable area requirement. Please amend the Land Use Summary on the
Preliminary Plot Plan (sheet 2 of 9) to list the maximum contiguous buildable
area of each of the proposed lots. This chart must be certified by a licensed
surveyor.
8. As suggested by the PEC, staff, and the general public at the August 9,
1993 and November 6, 1993 worksessions, as well as in my letter to you
10 dated October 25, 1993, the provision of useable open space within the
subdivision is very important. Although you show five open space tracts
within this subdivision, staff believes that for various reasons (steep slopes,
lack of adequate access, etc.), these open space tracts are not in fact
useable to any great degree by residents of the subdivision, their guests, or
the general public.
9. As previously requested and assuming you are still proposing building
envelopes, your preliminary plot plan must be amended to show actual
building envelopes. No building envelope may be located closer than 20 feet
from the lots front property line nor 15 feet from any other property line.
Please amend your design guidelines to state that all portions of proposed
structures must be located within building envelopes and delete the section
in your design guidelines which states that 90% of proposed building
footprints shall be located within a 45 foot radius of a building envelope's
center point. The building envelopes must be staked on site for staff to
review. This information will also allow you to provide estimated driveway
grades for the lots.
10. It appears that the RLM (now L1SFS) road easement across Lot 16 is not in
the actual location of the existing dirt road which extends from the end of
Cortina Lane to the west. Staff requests that you amend your Preliminary
Plot Plan to provide a new public access easement in the actual location of
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the existing dirt road.
11. As requested on Page 1 of the October 25, 1993 letter, please provide
detailed information of the proposed 150,000 gallon water storage tank. As
currently drawn on the Preliminary Utility Plan (sheet 4 of 5), your proposed
water tank is too wide to fit within the 24 foot wide access and water
easement located along the northern portion of Lot 27. Please provide a
letter from Upper Eagle Valley Consolidated Water and Sanitation Districts
stating that they have reviewed and approved your preliminary utility plan.
12. The water resources section of your Environmental Impact Report states that
a copy of the hydrologic analysis and the detailed drainage plan has been
included. However, we have not received a copy of these documents.
Please provide a detailed drainage plan, hydraulic analysis and details related
to all proposed sediment ponds referred to in your Environmental Impact
Report.
13. Please provide Michael Claffey`s (Army Corps of Engineers) written response
to Loren Hettinger's request for a decision regarding the Corps' need for a
404 permit related to the proposed subdivision plans. This letter should
include evidence that Mr. Claffey has been provided with and has reviewed a
copy of the construction drawings related to the project.
14. Please provide detailed drawings of the three storm filtration tanks as well as
the three bridges being proposed. Your Slope and Site Disturbance Plan
does not appear to accurately reflect the amount of site disturbance
associated with the installation of the three bridges or the water tank.
15. Please describe to whom the 24 foot wide access and water easement along
the northern property line of Lot 27 will be dedicated on the final plat.
15. Your preliminary utility plan shows a number of storm water inlets which
appear to dump storm water directly onto individual lots, and not within
platted drainage easements. Please explain this situation. In addition, the
storm drains crossing Lots 22 and 28 would also appear to direct storm
water onto US Forest Service and Colorado Department of Transportation
property. Staff would discourage you from depositing storm water from
Trappers Road onto adjacent properties.
17. Your consulting engineering geologist suggests that buildings, roads and
other structural features may be built within the identified landslide area on
the property and suggests that the hazard will be reduced by restabilizing the
landslide with appropriate grading, piping and dewatering. Please provide
construction details as to how the grading, piping and dewatering of the area
will be accomplished. It is likely that the proposed dewatering of a large
section of the Trappers Run property will have an effect on surrounding
vegetation. The impact of the proposed dewatering plan must be addressed
in the vegetation section of your environmental impact report as well as any
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other section which may be impacted by the proposed dewatering plan.
18. Rather than providing details of typical road cross sections at various points
throughout the subdivision, staff needs to review actual cross sections of the
road at all locations where one or more tiers of retaining walls are located.
The specific design and engineering, materials and associated landscaping for
the retaining walls must be specified. Additionally, please amend your plan
to show retaining walls with a different symbol. Currently, the solid line
retaining wall symbol matches the property line symbol and are difficult to
easily differentiate. All proposed retaining wall locations on the Trappers
Run property must be staked on-site for staff review.
19. The disturbance associated with the 20 foot sewer line easement which runs
between Lots 3 and 4 and then heads east down the existing drainage way
to connect to Arosa Drive is not acceptable. As mentioned on previous
occasions, all utility lines within the subdivision should remain within the
proposed road right-of-way.
20. As mentioned previously, the Town does require the undergrounding of
overhead power lines whenever a property is developed or redeveloped.
Staff will be discussing the feasibility of undergrounding the overhead power
line located on Tract E with Holy Cross Electric and may require you to place
money in escrow at the time of final plat to cover this cost or require that
you complete this work as a part of your construction of the subdivision
improvements.
21. Staff feels that the Trappers Circle intersection with Trappers Road is located
too close to the existing drainage way and requests that the connection with
Trappers Road be moved further to the south.
22. Please explain the purpose of the 30 foot wide access easements across the
southern portion of Lots 29 and 30 and the 50 foot access easement located
on Lot 1. What is the maximum grade of the driveway leading to lot 1 ?
Staff believes that the environmental impacts associated with the construc-
tion of bridges and long winding driveways to access the building envelopes
on Lots 1, 29, and 30, are not acceptable. Staff would recommend that
these lots be deleted as building sites.
23. On Page 5 of the traffic report it is stated that this study does not attempt to
estimate construction generated traffic since this traffic is temporary and the
impact is generally less than the traffic impact of the permanent land use.
Staff disagrees with this statement and feels that construction generated
traffic, both within the Trappers Run property and the streets leading up to
it, must be taken into consideration when determining traffic impacts on the
West Vail street system. In Table 2 on Page 8 of the traffic study, there is
reference to peak hour level of service a/a and b/b. Although I am sure this
reference has meaning to a traffic consultant, please keep in mind that this
Environmental impact Report is being reviewed by the Vail Planning and
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Environmental Commission, and Vail citizens, who do not have the
is background in traffic engineering necessary to decipher such references.
Please amend the document to explain this and any other references which
will not be clear to a lay person reading the document.
24. Please describe, in detail, the impacts on adjacent properties associated with
your proposed Cortina Lane improvements.
26. Your conceptual construction staging /phasing plan must be amended to
include considerably more detail. Employee and construction vehicle parking
areas, construction material storage areas and the sequencing of
construction and revegetation are all important elements of the phasing plan.
Please provide a more complete construction staging /phasing plan.
26. Your conceptual revegetation plan must be amended to include considerably
more detail. Your plan must include specific numbers of each specie of plant
to be planted in the areas shown. Additionally, the revegetation plan must
include narrative describing the timing of the proposed revegetation
throughout the construction of the subdivision improvements.
27. Your design guidelines are incomplete, in staff's opinion, considering the size
and potential impacts of this proposed development. Staff would
recommend that you obtain a copy of the recently approved Spraddle Creek
Subdivision Design Guidelines. This document is a good example of design
guidelines prepared for a subdivision similar to the proposed Trappers Run
Subdivision. Other specific comments related to the design guidelines are as
follows:
a. On Page 1, third paragraph - The phrase "quality oriented" is
rather subjective. Staff would suggest that this be removed.
Also in paragraph three, it is stated that only landscape
architects experienced in mountain design shall be allowed to
design the landscaping in Trappers Run. Staff recommends
that you amend the sentence to state that experience in
mountain design applies to architects as well as landscape
architects.
b. On Page 2, grading - Please amend the last sentence to
prohibit grading beyond building envelope lines, unless it is for
landscaping purposes. Utilities - first sentence, change the
word "will" to "shall in the last sentence of the first para-
graph state that landscaping around meters is required rather
than encouraged. Please add a sentence which encourages
meters to be located on the structure rather than independently
sited. Driveways - for the sake of consistency throughout
town, staff would recommend that the wording in this section
be changed to comply with the requirements enforced through-
out the Town as a whole. Please add a paragraph to this
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section which describes the fact that on steep slopes, garages
are encouraged to be located as close to the road as possible,
thereby eliminating long winding driveways.
C. On Page 4, building height - Please expand on the comment
regarding individual lot restrictions. Staff believes that limiting
building heights on certain lots is a good idea and necessary to
reduce visual impacts on certain lots in the subdivision. This
area should be expanded to determine maximum building
height limitations on each lot in the subdivision. Foundations -
Please amend this wording to require that all foundations be
designed by a professional engineer only. Exterior Walls -
Please amend the last sentence in the first paragraph to say
that only the following materials shall be used for exterior
walls.
d. On Page 5, swimming pools and tennis courts - Please amend
this sentence to state that outdoor hot tubs must be located
within building envelopes. Staff would suggest that a new
paragraph be added which offers general design suggestions
for properly siting buildings on steep slopes as well as proper
design and construction techniques in mountain communities.
e. On Page S, object - Please amend the last sentence which
states that there shall be little or no landscaping in undisturbed
areas. While areas outside of building envelopes should remain
undisturbed, it is possible that it will be necessary to plant
additional vegetation directly outside of building envelopes in
order to screen or enhance the appearance of structures that
are constructed within the building envelope. Landscaping
within the building envelope - Please remove the sentence
regarding an allowance for manicured bluegrass areas.
f. As requested in our letter dated October 25, 1993, please
amend your design guidelines to include your proposed
prohibition of woodburning fireplaces and stoves within the
Trappers faun Subdivision.
g. As requested in our letter dated October 25, 1993, please
amend your design guidelines to include the addition of
guidelines on energy and water conservation.
28. Please provide the larger scale photos of each of the simulated views as
requested in our previous letter. Also as requested previously, please
provide new photos of simulated views 1 and 2 with houses keyed to the
lots. These views must also be amended to reflect the current layout of the
subdivision. We are again asking that you provide the simulated views on
Davos Trail and Arosa Drive as requested originally and again in our letter
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associated with the proposed bridges and driveways leading to lots 1, 29
and 30, as well as the Trappers Road Bridge. Please provide simulated
Views of all three of these areas. Additionally, please reference the Town
Engineers letter regarding a new view from 1 -70.
Staff believes that the proposed houses on lots 20 and 21 should be
indicated in simulated view number four. Also, the bridge and driveway
leading to the proposed house on lot 29 is missing. Please remove the
evergreen trees in tract D as well as those added behind the proposed
building on lot 29, from the bridge west.
As you know, a worksession with the Planning and Environmental Commission has been
scheduled for Monday, January 24, 1994. The purpose of the worksession is to familiarize
the PEC with the amendments you have made to your preliminary plan since their last
review on November 8, 1993, and to allow them to make a formal determination regarding
the completeness of your environmental impact report.
Future scheduling of the Trappers Run preliminary plan will be determined at such time as
you have made your application complete. The staff will require 30 days to review the
completed submittal.
If you should have any questions or comments concerning the information in this letter,
please feel free to contact me directly at 479 -2138. If necessary, the staff will be
available to go over these comments with you and your consultant team.
Sincerely,
f
Jim Curnutte
Town Planner
cc: Kristan Pritz
Russ Forrest
Mike Mollica
Randy Stouder
Dick Duran
Mike McGee
Larry Grafel
Todd Oppenheimer
Terri Martinez
Bob McLaurin
Tom Moorhead
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TOWN OF PAIL Y
75 Soutb Frontage Road Department of Public Works/Transportation
Vail, Colorado 81657
303-479-21581FAX 303-479-2166
12111MO)
TO: Jim Curnutte
FROM: Greg Hall
DATE: January 7, 1994
RE: Review of Trappers Run Submittal of December 22, 1993
I was concerned the Trappers Run developer took the Townfs review
of the application for completeness and assumed these were the
review comments for their submittal.
The following items asked for in my memo dated November 2, 1993
were not submitted with this application:
1) Detailed traffic calculations for West Vail 4-Way.
2) Copy of hydraulic report with back up calculations.
3) Alternative analysis of retaining wall types.
4) Debris flow calculations.
I have the following comments on the environmental impact report:
Economic and Fiscal Impact Analysis
1 The site is located in the northwest corner of the Town of
Vail and not the northeast as stated.
2) Town of Vail revenue generation and impact assumptions.
a. Retail sales tax - $1000/unit equates to $25,000 being
spent/year on taxable goods within the Town of Vail
limits. This appears a little high. The hotel staying
guests contribution to sales tax is much greater than the
single family homeowner.
E,
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b. Ski Lift Ticket Tax - The sales tax is 4% not 20. The
report assumes 70 days /5 persons per unit skiing. This
is more than 500 of the ski season the units' guests are
skiing. With 5 out of 5.5 persons /unit average skiing.
VA statistics show less than 50% of total guests to Vail
ski and that they only ski 4 days out of a 7 day stay.
If one were to buy a community pass for $875. You need
only need to ski 20 times to pay for the pass. This
section needs more work. If we use VA numbers or we have
many more people occupying the subdivision for a lot
longer time.
C. Transportation Center Receipts - this calculates to using
the structure 19 days of full price full day parking or
37 days of coupon full day parking or 150 hours of hourly
parking. These numbers do not coincide with the proposed
skiing numbers. It also doesn't allow much time to spend
the $25,000 to arrive at the sales tax numbers. Since
parking revenues pay for parking operations maybe both
these figures should be removed from consideration.
d. Real Estate Transfer Tax Calculations - there appears to
be $30,000 to much in year 4 for lot sales. This needs
0 to be adjusted. The $16,000 total for years 5 - 15 needs
to be stated as a yearly cost not a total as the first
four row's of costs are shown.
e. Revenue Generation Summary - should be revised to reflect
the true cost of and Real Estate Transfer Taxes lift
ticket taxes based on known data with Vail Associates and
Town of Vail. It would appear sales tax maybe up to $400
to high and ski lift ticket is $90 to high when
reductions are seen and higher rate applied. RETT is $66
to high. The total would be more likely $3071 versus
$3627 as shown.
Town of Vail Service Expenditures and Impact Assumptions
It is rather peculiar, these consultants did not question any Town
staff on how their current budgets are broken down and how this
development might influence their cost to provide the necessary
services to the development.
1) The 1992 annual revenues and current revenues per unit should
read expenditures instead. Why was 1992 used versus 1993 or
1994 budgeted? - understates current costs.
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2) Debt service assumes costs are influenced by growth. This is
true, however, the debt service is paying off capital projects
which were influenced by growth, so I believe they need their
share costed.
3) Public Works -
a. The Town's street maintenance budget is not related to
new or old streets. All costs associated with increased
effort for older street is in the street capital budget.
Due to the remoteness of this project our average of
$25,000 /mile is more than adequate.
b. Snow removal - the Town's current snow removal operations
are maxed out. The West Vail route is completely taxed
by the time we reach the end of the route being Vail
Ridge. To take on the additional mile of north facing
steep curvilinear roads will require the addition of two
operators to cover the streets 7 days a week from 7:00 am
- 12:00 am. It will also require the purchase of one
additional plow. The current town,shop complex does not
have the room to store this additional plow. In
addition, the effort required to increase the maintenance
of the one mile of existing road network now functioning
at a higher level of importance should be considered.
The report does not consider the increased maintenance
needed to correct any problems on the existing one mile
road due to heavy construction traffic loads. The cost
to the Town for snow removal for the one mile is:
2 Operators for 25 weeks
(25 X 40 X 2 = 2000 hrs @ $15 X 1.33) assume 40% is to
the development = $ 15,600
Overtime /operator time = 100 hrs
(100 X 2 X 1.5 X 15) assume 40% to development
= $ 1,800
Plow operating costs (260 hrs X $46 /hrs)
= $ 11, 960
Unimog /plow /sander costs
($115,000 New - $15,000 Trade in /12 yrs) 40%
= $ 3.333
Shop Storage
(15' X 30' X $125/SF/25 yrs) X 400 = $ 900
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Sanding/Cinders
Deicer Chemicals
TOTAL
= $ 2,000
= $ 200
$ 31,793/mile
or $ 1,193 /unit
** Per mile costs understate impacts as certain areas
cause substantial investments to maintain.
c Building Maintenance - this cost includes street lighting
and street signs.
d. Other - this cost includes engineering who perform
subdivision submittals review, subdivision engineered
plan review, roadway construction inspection and review
of all new home construction.
e. Parks - the West Vail/Vail Ridge neighborhood has been
identified as a neighborhood completely lacking an
adequate neighborhood park system. This development will
only worsen the situation.
f. RETT - capital costs not considered. - These will be
affected due to requirement to construct new neighborhood
park and trail enhancements.
9. Street capital - Is used to correct problems, however,
this dollar amount is only our preventative maintenance
costs. The Town did not budget for a major street repair
during 1992. Annualized cost to maintain streets:
Roadway Capital Costs/1994 dollars/1 mile road:
Crackseal every year
Slurry seal-years 4,8,18
1V2 inch asphalt overlay year 14
Major rebuild year 24
Spot overlays, pothole
Patching years 10-14/20-24
$ 800
$ 23,500/seal
$ 80,000/overlay
$ 520,000/Construction
period
2,000/year
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Total cost years 1-14
Yearly costs
Total cost years 1-25
$ 148,000 = $10,585/mi/yr
14 = $353/unit
709,000 = $29,571/mi/yr
24 = $986/unit
4) Transportation - the report states no expansion, largely fixed
costs. All Town of Vail routes are at capacity at peak times
and for 1994 have added additional service. The Town has been
looking at providing bigger buses which is a major capital
investment to meet demand. The replacement of existing buses
comes from the Town's capital budget, which in 1992 there were
not any funded. The Town has also looked at providing smaller
feeder routes to those areas who are far from the existing
stops. Trapper's Run homes which average 1112 miles to the
nearest stop would be prime candidates for the feeder route.
In the parking section it is stated most residents will use
the bus system.
5) Parking - states residents will likely use public transit.
The nearest bus stop is over 1 mile away and from the farthest
home 2 miles away. It is highly unlikely these residents will
walk those streets carrying skis for 1112 - 2 miles. The
operation of the parking structure is covered by its revenues.
The bigger issue is the capital construction of spaces. Since
these residents will need spaces at Vailts structures during
peak times it maybe assumed additional spaces may need to be
built. The capital cost of spaces is:
Initial Construction $ 15,000
Annual Capital/year $ 90
Major Renovation year 15. $ 500
Total Annual costs/
space of 25 years $ 710/unit
** Number of spaces needed for growth $710/unit - dollars
do not overstate costs.
6) Fire - It is most likely this subdivision will require the
construction of a West Vail Fire Station especially with the
access I mile through the existing neighborhood versus the
quicker 1/4 mile straight shot from North Frontage Road. The
new fire station costs for capital and additional operation do
not overstate costs. Obtain numbers from fire department.
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The summary states that taking the average costs overstate the true
costs and the marginal costs would be more accurate. It appears
the marginal costs are more accurate, but may not necessarily be
more conservative. The analyst never worked with staff on actual
costs and how they are broken out, or what is the long term costs,
instead we have a snapshot of how the 1992 budget and revenues are
divided.
Traffic Impact Stud
The two traffic impact studies are quite different. The first
states three roadway connections were considered and the Cortina
Lane access was determined to be the less desirable. It results in
site generated traffic using existing residential streets;
approximately 50 homes would be impacted by increases in local
traffic. The existing road network contains excessive grades, poor
sight distance and narrow cross sections. The second report states
the Cortina Lane access is the preferred alternative.
Approximately 40 homes will be impacted by increases in local
traffic. The extension of the North Frontage Road results in
excessive grades to be constructed in the development.
The second report determines which access is best based on least
environmental impacts, and visibility. The traffic engineer does
not use criteria such as safest, least traffic impacts,
encouragement of transit use, impact to pedestrians and bicycle
users, and school children access to bus stops.
It will definitely need to be known how homes, and traffic impacts
were determined. Many of the Structures along the route have more
than one dwelling unit. Impacts of increased traffic affects all
who use the roadways. This is much more than just those who abut
the route. The Town's bus stops and the school bus stops are at
North Frontage Road/Chamonix Road and Chamonix Road behind the
Vail Inn. The neighborhood is in close proximity to the West Vail
commercial areas. The Davos Trail is popular in both summer and
winter. These generate a significant amount of pedestrian traffic
along the neighborhood roadways. There is no pedestrian facilities
along the route.
The popularity of the Davos Trail generates a great deal of bicycle
traffic from April through October. Again no facilities exist
through the neighborhood.
The change from 50 homes to 40 homes from one report to the next is
disturbing. How were less impacted the second time?
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The ability to say a grade of 8.8a on a straight of way is
excessive to a grade in excess of 120 on a tight curve is ok seems
odd. The fact of making 2 90" turns on grades in excess of 10%
then able to continue up a winding grade in excess of 12% on a 201
wide roadway is not good traffic planning.
The use of these roads by seasonal users and even more of concern
short term guests or visitors is putting unfamiliar drivers into a
very serious situation.
Was accident history of the neighborhood reviewed? Has the traffic
consultant driven the road in winter?
The Town of Vail does have plans to improve the North Frontage
Road/Chamonix Road intersection. This was the number 3 priority of
the Vail Master Transportation Plan adopted March of 1992. This
will most likely occur within two years if financial partners can
be found.
The recommendation of Cortina Lane access over the North Frontage
Road extension, based purely on traffic engineering criteria is not
even a matter of consideration.
From a transit and school bus issue, the nearest stops average 1Y2
mile to up to 2 miles away on the preferred alternative. The North
Frontage Road alternative bus stops average 112 mile and maximum 11/4
mile. There must be a better alternative for both modes.
Trip generation numbers can be determined and reviewed once the
actual number and type of dwelling units are known. The biggest
issue is what rates are being used and based on what. Trip
generation rates can be computed on dwelling units, persons, or
vehicles for weekdays or weekends average day or peak times.
The other item is the definition for recreational homes is as
follows on the ITE Trip Generatiuon book. Recreational homes are
usually located in a resort containing local services and complete
recreation facilities. These dwellings are typically second homes
used by the owner periodically or rented on a seasonal basis. The
trips for determination of trip rates measured were at the access
points to the resorts. Higher trips occurred within the resorts
for recreational purposes. The trip rate used by the report would
be the number of trips at East Vail and Dowd Junction. Not the
trips through the neighborhood.
The worst case of trips on Saturday using dwelling units is 305.
The worst case on Saturday using persons is 449 trips. If employee
housing units are required these numbers go up.
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The peak trips need to be considered the worst case as this is when
we have our worst situation and biggest impacts.
The capacity analysis of the 4-way stop assumes a capacity of 1800
vehicles per hour (vph) maximum. This is based on a split of
55/45. This does not really explain split. The highway capacity
manual states a split of 50/50 is that all approaches are evenly
loaded through the peak demand period. The text also states lesser
capacities and more variable distribution of delay occurs where
demand is not evenly split among all the approaches. This capacity
is as follows:
Split
VPH
LOS C
50/50
1900
1200
55/45
1800
1140
60/40
1700
1080
65/35
1600
1010
70/30
1500
960
Further LOS C volumes are much less than the capacity. It'is very
disturbing how the traffic consultant stated we had LOS A for West
Vail when even if we were evenly split, current volumes are at or
28% above LOS C volumes.
The analysis also does not consider any interference from the close
proximity of the 1-70 ramps to the operation of this intersection.
The recommendation, the intersection is alright and no improvements
are required are inaccurate. The improvements put forward to widen
Cortina Lane are not possible to construct without impacting
existing drives already over current grade standards. The
improvements also don't address the major deficiencies with this
proposed access.
Air Quality
The report mentions road sanding as a generator of particulate
pollution, however, it is not part of Table 1. Road sanding has
been found to be one of the larger pollutants in the mountain
communities. The report does not adjust the emission numbers, even
though access to the site has increased by one mile. The Existing
roadways, will need greater maintenance effort as their class
function changes from local to collector streets and transit and
pedestrians use by the developments' residences is greatly
discouraged with the increased distance from bus stops and activity
centers. The number of vehicle trips needs to correspond to the
correct trips from the traffic report and to an accurate total trip
0 length.
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The previous trip length hardly gets residences out of the
subdivision. The air quality report should discuss the impacts of
the two different access scenarios.
Water Resources
The Town of Vail drainage criteria requires, storm sewers to be
designed for the 25 year flow. The report states a copy of the
hydraulic analysis is attached. I cannot find this. It would seem
feasible to provide the bridge crossing with the old access and
remove the roadway out of the stream and both alternatives are
equal. There also exists the possibility to create ,a sedimentation
pond/water feature if access from the North Frontage Road is
developed in conjunction to a pocket park.
Vegetation
When staff walked the site with the developer, there was
significant Columbine in the forest understory. It is not
mentioned as being on the site. What is the net loss of trees if
access is from the North Frontage Road and aligned next to the
stream bed to miss treks. Is there an opportunity to develop a
pocket park at the realigned Arosa Drive area in this scenario?
Does there exist any opportunity to create a usable pocket park to
be shared by the Vail Ridge neighborhood with the Cortina Lane
access alternative.
Development should exercise the Wildland Fire Design Guidelines
which call for fuel clearing around structures.
Developer should provide a standard for revegetation which we could
evaluate now in determining how well the site will be restored.
Example and caliber or size of plant species per say 100 square
feet of disturbance.
Wetlands
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers will make the determination. In
either alternative, the stream should be avoided, except for near
90' crossings.
Wildlife
The current site acts as the buffer with the Vail Ridge
neighborhood as stated, the relatively dense forest habitat serves
as a buffer between existing development and more open habitats on
the forest land. Wildlife activity within this site is not
concentrated due to close proximity to the sights, sounds and
smells of humans in close proximity to the site.
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Human and especially, dog activity through the site greatly affects
the wildlife activity patterns. The construction of another
subdivision, similar to Vail Ridge with no buffer strip, pushes the
wildlife further to the west.
The comparison of wildlife habitat lost in the whole picture of
wildlife habitat is similar to each rain forest logger /farmer
comparing each of their properties to the greater whole. It is
small, but in aggregate quite devastating. How much of the
remaining wildlife habitat is permanently protected from any
harmful development? If not, I don't think it should be counted.
It is also disturbing that Vail should not worry about wildlife
nearby, and this is not something people expect when recreating in
this area.
The report states very clearly, without reducing the number of
residential lots on Trapper's Run, it is difficult to maintain a
wildlife buffer zone. This is because the best lot sites are in
the area of any proposed buffer zone. The second fact of
developing the entire dense forest zone, doubly eliminates any
buffer with the more open habitat of the forest lands, this is
partially mitigated by a ridge line above the site. The original
report states bear
problems exist on the south side of I -70. There has also been many
incidents of bears on the north, most particularly the residences
adjacent to the development. Would suggest any development of this
area require use of bear proof garbage containers.
Preliminary Geotechnical Investigation
The first report, mentions construction of structures in the area
of the landslide is not recommended. No underground utilities
which transport liquids should be constructed in the landslide
area. The report does not identify the rock outcrops at the end of
Cortina Lane, and the potential difficulty in constructing the
roadway through it. The report does not, recommend a maximum fill
slope or total fill.
No alternative analysis of retaining wall systems was performed.
It needs to be discussed regarding aesthetics, ease of
construction, amount of disturbance and costs. Retained earth
systems like soil nailing or a Hilfaker System may be appropriate
on the north facing cut slopes, where revegetation of the steep
slopes is possible with proper erosion control and revegetation
procedures.
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The second report states the landslide area can support structures
with proper dewatering and engineered systems.
Is there any special construction techniques required to stabilize
the subgrade which averages more than 65% passing the No. 200 sieve
while the roadways are under construction. Does the on site
material meet the specifications for suitable backfill with regard
to Mechanically Stabilized Earth (MSE) walls? How will the top
soil on site be handled, stockpiled and reused during construction?
How do the two access alternatives compare in scope with regards to
geotechnical,analysis?
Engineering Geologic Hazard Study
The original report identifies the landslide area. It discusses
the use of specific geotechnical measures, such as ground
dewatering or removal of the slide soils and replacement with
engineered fill which could be implemented to improve the stability
of the ground. It then urges no high-value structure be built
within the landslide area.
The second report states the landslide area will be restabilized by
dewatering so buildings may be built to an acceptable risk level.
The geologic report does not identify the rock out crop from
Cortina Lane. The report should also analyze the difference access
alternatives.
Rockfall and Debris Flow Analysis
Which consultant has the final word with regard to rockfall hazard?
The original report supports the the'ory that the original road
design was poor due to the fact the roadway is in the ravine. It
also assumed the road could not be altered. The second report
shows, through use of large box culvert crossings, how the debris
flow can be mitigated. This technique may also be used for a
revised original road alignment.
The second report still does not calculate any hard numbers on the
extent or volume of debris expected. The report also looks at only
a debris flow originating high up in the incised ravine, however,
the geologic hazard report identifies three landslide hazards just
to the north of the site. These areas if lubricated with moisture,
such as a heavy snow year, and/or intense rainstorms, if released,
in conjunction with spring runoff would cause a debris flow event.
Debris flow events are not similar to floods or avalanches in which
you have return periods.
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It is disturbing, the report mentions, no prior events have
occurred in the valley so the danger is not as great. Prior to the
1984 events in Vail, it was also possible to view those areas which
flowed and state, no prior activity has occurred. Debris flow
potential is based on having the right topographic, geologic and
hydrologic circumstances at the right time to trigger an event.
Once the event occurs, it may never happen again as the material
which gave way is now no longer able to supply a possible second
event from exactly the same spot.
The second map shows the debris flow hazard as a single line, non-
colored as compared to an area as the first map. The hazard should
be shown as the first map depicts. The report points out that the
stream even though crossed with wide spar box culvert bridges,
results in fills 29-32 feet above the inverts of the stream.
The report discusses how the water quality report provides a
detailed discussion of the sites hydrology. None exists.
The report should mention some device which may hold back large
embedded debris which could block the bridges, causing a danger of
damming, structural damage to the box culverts, and expensive clean
up. It may be best to provide a large grate to keep the largest
material from becoming lodged in the box. This allows the moisture
and majority of debris to pass. What special measures are needed
to adequately design the roadway fill to sustain the pressures
caused by potential damming upstream of the boxes..
The report mentions no issue with the rock out crop at Cortina
Lane. Again the report should analyze the difference between the
Cortina Lane access with a revised North Frontage Road access.
Design Guidelines
It would be appropriate that professional engineers licensed
architects and landscape architects work together to create the
best designs.
1) Building envelopes - as written will be hard to enforce. Who
is the enforcer? How will the enforcement be carried out?
2) Driveway - as written violates Town of Vail ordinances.
Maximum grades of 8% are allowed.
3) Retaining Wall - as written violates Town of Vail ordinances.
Maximum height of 3' is allowed in front setback.
4) Trash housing - should also require use of bear proof trash
containers, once they are placed outdoors for pickup.
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5) Roofing - material of natural cedar shakes appears out of
character for wildland fire design guidelines.
6) Preservation of vegetation - requires all trees 411 in diameter
to be shown. Should we require the subdivision plan, prior to
approval to show the same?
7) Fire protection - Wildland Fire Design Guidelines should apply
to the subdivision.
Developer should provide a standard for revegetation which we could
evaluate now in determining how well the site will be restored.
Example and caliber or size of plant species per say 100 square
feet of disturbance.
View Studies/Computer Simulation
The original views from the Brandess Building appears to be the
wrong spot. This view should be the center line of the westbound
lanes of 1-70. The photo as is, uses the development in the
foreground as a screen and it is not a view point many people have.
The westbound centerlane is a view point everyone has, and has less
foreground screening. It may be appropriate to zoom the shot from
1-70, as it is impossible to simulate the view as one drives down
1-70, but as one gets closer the view will be greater. The
simulations, should compare the two different access alternatives
once refined and development density resolved from the same view
points and those additional suggested by staff.
The Tins created for visual simulation show no grading disturbance
for the houses as shown.
Roadway Plans
An extensive review was not performed as of this time it is clearly
not known what the final product will be. The public works
department does not support the access from Cortina Lane. The
Cortina access is not acceptable as proposed. If density accessing
Cortina is greatly reduced this my be an alternative.
The old North Frontage Road extension as previously shown, however,
is not approvable either, but a modification which removes major
portions of the roadway out of the stream and uses the large
concrete box culverts to convey the stream would be acceptable.
Limited density access of Davos Trail with the use of large
concrete box culverts may also be acceptable. The original
discussions with the developer, discounted such an access point,
due to excessive fill, however, the current plan presents 321 of
fill over the creek.
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The plan as proposed, does have utilities carrying liquids within
the landslide area. The plan as proposed has storm sewers dumping
out onto lots and U.S. Forest Service property with out the proper
drainage easements. How will erosion be handled at these points?
How are flows picked up down below?
The face of retaining walls and guardrail must be 2' behind the
flowline of the gutter. A 51 tier on cut wells allows a very small
plantable area. What is the tier width for fill walls?
The plan shows no disturbance on adjacent properties. It is
unlikely to construct walls right at the property line without
working in front of them. They do show grading on Lot 13 Block B
Vail Ridge. Do they have permission?
The project still heavily disrupts the stream with the construction
of the sewer line connection.
What is the total square footage of wall and what is the square
footage per various wall heights?
Where are the construction staging areas? How will access to the
Isforest lands be maintained during construction?
As was stated before, the improvement to Cortina Lane are almost
impossible and does not address the most severe sections.
The TINf s as developed do not adequately show grading disturbances
of the building envelopes and driveways.
As was stated before, the revegetation plan needs to present some
standards for material per known area. I
Trappers Circle grades do not start at 8% at station 0+00 as this
is centerline of Trappers Road. The cross slope of Trappers Road
should be 2%.
The forest access needs to be separate from the access to Lot 27.
It needs to not feel like one is using someones driveway. People
won't use the access if it does.
The second submittal access which raises the North Frontage Road if
revised to keep out the stream may reach a better result. If the
point of raising the North Frontage Road was further to the east
this would reduce the grade. The road can be realigned to stay out
of the stream except ;for crossings of the stream of which there
would exist similar to the current plan, but with less fill above
the creek.
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If this development is to be an actual project, it should be
developed in a way which meets the goals of the Town and makes an
improvement as well.
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TO: Jim Curnutte
Todd Oppenheim
DATE: January 4, 1994
RE: Comments on Trappers Run 1st Supplement to E.I.R. dated December 14,
1993.
I have review the supplemental Trappers Run submittal and have the following comments.
The most significant comments relate to the visual simulations and the revegetation plan.
Please call me if you have any questions.
2. Design Guidelines. An additional sentences to the last paragraph of the
introduction that stresses a tearn approach between the Architect and landscape
Architect would be beneficial. Having both professions involved from the beginning
of the design process will help ensure that the structures are successfully
integrated with the site.
3. Design Guidelines, Preservation of vegetation. I would like to see two additioral
points covered. First, existing vegetation, including trees, understory and
groundcover should be dug and transplanted wherever possible. This technique,
if properly done, greatly improves the overall revegetation of the site. Second,
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specifici plans for protection of existing vegetation to remain should be included
with the site plan submittal. This way staff can evaluate the plans to determine if
it is feasible to save the vegetation identified.
4. Question. Are construction related items such as erosion protection,- construction
fencing and trash removal, sufficiently covered in the Town of Vail design
guidelines or should they be included in the Trappers Run guidelines as well?
5. Simulated View Four from Cortina Lane contains several errors that must be
corrected in order to properly assess the visual impacts of the project. There are
as follows:
a). The structure, building envelope and disturbed areas for lots 20, 21 and 23
and possibly portions of 25 and 24 would be visible in the photograph.
b) The utility easement disturbance between lots 21, 22 and 23 would be
visible in the photograph.
c). The stand of evergreen trees shown at the intersections of Trappers Circle
and Trappers Road will not remain. Utility Plan (sheet 4 of 5) shows an
"STM Filtration Tank system and associated piping to be installed at that
location. The second tier of wall as well as the roadway would be visible
when the trees are removed.
d). The evergreen trees drawn in over the top of the house on lot 29 do not
exist. The disturbed area in this location extends from Trappers Circle
almost to the stream. There are no evergreens on the camera side of the
stream. If you look closely at the evergreens in the existing view all you
see are tree trunks in the shadows. Much more of the road, disturbed
areas and walls would be visible in this location.
6. The parking spaces for forest access included in the original plan have been
omitted in this submittal. Several spaces should be located in the vicinity of lots
26 and 28.
7. The plants indicated on the revegetation plan are appropriate. The applicant
needs to submit detailed landscape and irrigation plans showing plant locations
and quantities as well as the irrigation system. A statement regarding
maintenance responsibility should also be included. Specific seed mixes,
application rates and mulching techniques should also be included.
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MEMORANDUM
fire department
TO: JIM CURNUTTE, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
FROM: MICHAEL MCGEE, FIRE MARSHAL
DATE: DECEMBER 27, 1993
RE: TRAPPER'S RUN PROPOSAL
We received another submittal for the proposed Trapper's Run
project, dated 12/22/93. We have reviewed the submittal and have
the following comments:
Exhibit 9 of the Supplement to the Environmental Impact
Report, titled Town of Vail Service Impact Assumptions, has a
statement under impacts to the Fire Department, that "no new
equipment or systems are required." THIS ASSUMPTION IS FALSE.
We have identified no less than 10 impacts. The impacts are:
1. we anticipate an increase in the number and frequency of both
fire and medical calls to the West Vail area as a result of the
increased density, both during construction and after occupancy.
2. We anticipate and increase in both the actual number and in
the potential threat of wildland fires due to construction and
habitation, especially given the terrain, natural ground cover,
slope, and the fact that the project is on the south facing slope.
3. Average response time to calls throughout the Town of Vail
will increase due to increased vehicular traffic., impact on the
West Vail interchange, and the amount of time required for an
engine to respond to Trapper's Run from the main Vail fire station
and the time required to respond to other calls within the Village
and Lionshead from'West Vail.
4. According to a recent analysis conducted by Merrick &
Associates for Upper Eagle Consolidated Water and Sanitation
District, the water system in the Vail area, especially on Cortina
Lane, is currently inadequate to meet existing fire flow demands.
Any additional demands on the water system must be addressed and
improvements to the existing system should be made prior to any
additional demands being made on the water system.
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5. The Insurance Services Office/Commercial Risk Services (ISO)
sets forth classifications for municipalities that directly affect
insurance rates. ISO criteria require all points within the city
to be within a certain distance of a fire station. West Vail does
not currently meet those criteria. Deficiency points are assigned
on a pro-rata basis for the percentage of the city that is not
within the specified distance from a fire station.
Development of Trapper's Run will increase the percent of the
city not within the ISO's specified distance of a. fire station,
will result in more deficiency points, and a subsequent reduction
in Vail's classification which may result In an increase in
insurance rates for the properties throughout Vail.
6. It is reasonable to assume that as with any new subdivision,
there will be some increase in the number of calls,for service to
that area. Trapper's Run lies at the most remote west end of the
north side of the valley and will require more travel'time for fire
apparatus to respond to and return from calls in that area.
While the on-duty fire crew is tied up with even a false alarm
in the Trapper's Run subdivision, they are not available to respond
to other, perhaps more critical, calls in the rest of Town. This
reduction in the engine company's availability for response to the
rest of Vail is aggravated by the longer response times.
7. The proposed access to the subdivision is'via Cortina Lane.
Cortina Lane was not designed to handle any significant increase in
traffic volume or imposed loads such as would result from heavy
construction equipment, fire trucks, moving vans, and other heavy
vehicles.
Fire Department access will require we travel up Chamonix
Lane, to Davos Trail, through multiple intersections, none of which
were intended or designed for heavy vehicle loads or high traffic
either.
S. Cortina Lane was built under County standards in the 1960's
and was designed for light duty local traffic only. It does not
meet current minimum design standards but is an existing non-
conforming situation, servicing about 12 homes.
9. Under the proposed design, Cortina Lane would be expected to
provide access to 42 homes. The proposed design includes an
adverse mix of minimums and maximums. The road is designed to the
maximum road grade, minimu. m width, and insufficient turning radius,'
and the cul-de-sacs within the project do not allow a fire truck to
turn around without making at least a three point turn.
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Chapter 18.56
WIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORTS
Purpose.
Applicability.
Exempt projects.
Studies and data required.
Report — Contents.
Report— Additional material.
Time schedule.
Fee.
Review- Submission.
Review Time limit — Supplementary information
Review— Action by commission.
Appeal to the town council.
Permit issuance.
1 5.56.010 Purpose.
Submission and review of an environmental impact report
on any private development proposal, or public project which
may affect to any significant degree the quality of the
environment in the town or in surrounding areas is required to
achieve the following objectives:
A.. To ensure that complete information on the environmental
effects of the proposed project is available to the town
council, the planning commission, and the general public:
B. To ensure that long -term protection of the environment is a
guiding criterion in project planning, and that land use and
development decisions, both public and .private, take into
account the relative merits of possible alternative actions:
C. To provide procedures for local review and evaluation of the
environmental effects of proposed projects prior to granting
of permits or other authorizations for commencement of
development;
D. To ensure that buildings are not constructed in geologic
hazard areas, by way of illustration, floodplains, avalanche
paths, rockfall areas, where such hazard cannot practically
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18.56.030
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18.56.070
18.56.080
18.56.090
18.56.100
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Chapter 18.56
WIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORTS
Purpose.
Applicability.
Exempt projects.
Studies and data required.
Report -- Contents.
Report — Additional material.
Time schedule.
Fee.
Review — Submission.
Review Time limit --- Supplementary information.
Review - -Action by commission.
Appeal to the town council.
Permit issuance.
18.56.010 Purpose.
Submission and review of an environmental impact report
on any private development proposal- or public project which
may affect to any significant degree the quality of the
environment in the town or in surrounding areas is required to
achieve the following objectives:
A. _ To ensure that complete information on the environmental
effects of the proposed project is available to the town
council, the planning commission, and the general public,
B. To ensure that long -term protection of the environment is a
guiding criterion in project planning, and that land use and
development decisions, both public and private, take into
account the relative merits of possible alternative actions;
C. To provide procedures for local review and evaluation of the
environmental effects of proposed projects prior to granting
of permits or other authorizations for commencement of
development;
D. To ensure that buildings are not constructed in geologic
hazard areas, by way of illustration, floodplains, avalanche
paths, rockfall areas, where such hazard cannot practically
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be mitigated to the satisfaction of the planning commission
and the town council;
E. To ensure that the quality of surface water and groundwater
within the town will be protected from adverse impacts
and /or degradation due to construction activities.
(Ord. 37(1980) § 10 (part); Ord. 19(1976) § 14: Ord. 8(1973)
§ 16.100.)
18.56.020 Applicability.
An environmental impact report shall be submitted to the
zoning administrator for any project for which such a report is
required by federal or state law, or for any project which the
zoning administrator determines may significantly change the
environment, either during construction or on a continuing
basis, in one or more of the following respects:
A Alters an ecological unit or land form, such as a ridgeline,
saddle, draw, ravine, hillside, cliff, slope, creek, marsh,
watercourse, or other natural land form feature;
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B. Directly or indirectly affects a wildlife habitat, feeding, or
nesting ground;
C. Alters or removes native grasses, trees, shrubs, or other
vegetative cover;
V ''` D. Affects the appearance or character of a significant scenic
area or resource, or involves buildings or other structures
that are of a size, bulk, or scale that would be in marked
contrast to natural or existing urban features;
E. Potentially results in avalanche, landslide, siltation,
settlement, flood, or other land form change or hazard to
health and safety;
F. Discharges toxic or thermally abnormal substances, or
involves use of herbicides or pesticides, or emits smoke, gas,
steam, dust, or other particulate matter;
G. Involves any process which results in odor, that may be
objectionable or damaging;
H. Requires any waste treatment, coaling, or settlement pond,
or requires transportation of solid or liquid wastes to a
treatment or disposal site;
I. Discharges significant volumes of solid or liquid wastes;
J. Has the potential to strain the capacity of existing or
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systems;
K. Involves any process which generates noise that may be
offensive or damaging;
L. Either displaces significant numbers of people or results in a
significant increase in population;
M. Preempts a site with potential recreational or open space
value;
N. Alters local traffic patterns or causes a significant increase in
traffic volume or transit service needs;
0. Is a part of a larger project which, at any future stage, may
involve any of the impacts listed in this section.
(Ord. 8(1973) § 16.200.)
18.56.030 Exempt projects.
An environmental impact report shall not be required for
the following projects:
A. Alteration, repair and maintenance of existing structures
and site improvements;
B. A phase of a project for which an environmental impact
report previously was submitted and reviewed covering the
entire project, provided that the project was approved and
not subsequently altered;
C. A project which, on the basis of a preliminary
environmental assessment covering each of the factors
prescribed in Section 18.56.020, is found to have an
insignificant impact on the environment. The preliminary
environmental assessment and the finding on environmental
impact shall be made by the zoning administrator.
(Ord. 8(1973) § 16.300.)
18.56.040 Studies and data required.
A The environmental impact report shall be based on
systematic studies conducted by the town staff or by
professional consultants, as determined by the zoning
administrator. The environmental impact report on a public
project may be prepared by the responsible public agency or
by professional consultants it engages. The range of studies
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needed to develop the technical data for an environmental
impact report includes the following natural systems and ' Y
other studies:
1. Hydrologic conditions, such as surface drainage and .
watershed characteristics, groundwater and soil
permeability characteristics, natural water features and
characteristics, and any potential changes or impacts;
2. Atmospheric conditions, such as airshed characteristics,
potential emissions, and any potential changes or
impacts;
3. Geologic conditions, such as land forms, slope, soil
characteristics, potential hazards, and any potential
changes or impacts;
4. Biotic conditions, such as vegetative characteristics,
wildlife habitats, and any potential changes or impacts;
5. Other environmental conditions, such as noise levels and
odor � characteristics, and any potential changes or
impacts;
6. Visual conditions, such as views and scenic values, and
any potential changes, impacts, or marked contrasts;
7. Land use conditions, such as characteristics of uses,
compatibility with officially approved land use and
open space policies and objectives, and potential
changes or impacts;
S. Circulation and transportation . conditions, such as
volumes and traffic flow patterns, transit service needs,
alternative transit systems, and potential changes or
impacts;
9. Population characteristics, such as residential densities,
neighborhood patterns, potential displacement of
residents or businesses, and potential changes or
impacts.
B. The environmental impact report shall summarize the
findings and recommendations of the technical and other .
supporting studies in terms that can be assessed and
evaluated by town officials and the general public.
Technical data shall be submitted as supporting
documentation. Technical data prepared as a part of any
other procedure or requirement of this chapter, or of any
other ordinance or federal, state or town regulation, also
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may be used to support an environmental impact report.
(Ord. 8(1973) § 15.441.)
18.56.050 Report -- Contents.
A. The environmental impact report shall contain information
and analysis, in sufficient detail and adequately supported
by technical studies, to enable the town council to judge the
environmental impact of the project and to judge measures
proposed to reduce or negate any harmful impacts.
B. The environmental impact report shall include a general
statement, describing the proposed project and its purpose,
identifying the owner and/or sponsors, and, if a public
project, identifying the funding source and time schedule.
Descriptive materials, maps, and . plans shall be submitted
showing the following information:
1. Project boundaries and boundaries of the area within
which environmental impact is likely to be significant;
2. Present and proposed uses of the site;
3. Present and proposed zoning of the site;
4. Quantitative information relative to the project, such as
site area, numbers of residential units, proposed height
and bulk of buildings, building floor area in square feet,
and such ether data as will contribute to a clear
understanding of the scale of the project;
5. A list of regulatory or review agencies and the specific
regulations to which the project will be subject;
6. Copies of subdivision maps, development plans, or other
pertinent documents illustrating the proposed project;
7. Proximity to water bodies, the distance from the center-
line of live creeks or streams to any proposed structural
development within the project;
;_. 8. Soil types based upon the National Cooperative Sail
Survey, USDA, Soil Conservation Service and inter-'
prelations of soil types, vegetation shall be described
and three masses shown.
C. The environmental impact report shall include an
environmental inventory, providing complete information
on the environmental setting existing prior to the proposed
project and containing sufficient information to permit
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independent evaluation by reviewers of factors that could
be affected by the proposed project. The environmental
inventory shall include maps, photographs, or other
appropriate illustrative material.
D. Areas categorized according to type of possible impact shall
be identified. The environmental inventory shall describe
both the physical and biological natural setting, and the
manmade setting of the site and its surroundings.
E. The environmental impact report shall include a
comprehensive, qualitative and quantitative analysis of any
significant impact that the proposed project will have on the
environment. The analysis shall describe temporary effects
that will prevail during construction, and long -term effects
that will prevail after completion. The analysis shall describe
both beneficial effects and detrimental effects. The analysis
shall consider primary effects and secondary effects which
will result from the project. The analysis portion of the
environmental impact report shall fully assess the following.
items:
1. Adverse effects which cannot be avoided if the proposal
is implemented;
2. Mitigation measures proposed to minimize the impact,
including water quality, erosion control and revegeta-
tion measures;
3. Possible alternatives to the proposed action;
4. Relationships between short -term and long -term uses of
the environment;
5. Irreversible environmental changes resulting from im-
plementation of the proposal;
6. Growth- inducing impacts of the project.
(Ord. 37(1950) § 10 (part); Ord. 8(1973) § 16.402.)
18.56.060 Report— Additional material.
The zoning administrator may further prescribe the form
and content of an environmental impact report, setting forth in
greater detail the factors to be considered and the manner in
which the report shall be prepared, and may require submission
of information in addition to that required by Section
18.56.050. (Ord. 8(1973) § 16.403.)
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15.56,070 Time schedule.
The environmental impact report required under this
chapter shall be prepared within thirty days of the date that
plans are submitted for design review as prescribed in Sections
18.56.040 through 18.56.060, subject to extension of the time
period to a maximum of ninety days by the planning
commission The time period may be extended to a maximum
of one hundred eighty days if seasonal conditions prevent a
comprehensive analysis. (Ord. 16(1978) § 2(a); Ord. 8(1973)
§ 16.404.)
15.56.080 Fee.
In the event that the town engages professional consultants
to prepare an environmental impact report, the cost shall be
paid by the sponsor of the project. The sponsor may be
required to deposit a fixed sum in advance to cover the cost of
the report, with the unexpended 'balance returnable to the
sponsor. (Ord. 8(1973) § 16.405.)
15.56.090 Review— Submission.
The environmental impact report shall be submitted to the
zoning administrator. The zoning administrator shall prescribe
the number of copies to be submitted. The zoning administrator
shall notify the town council, the planning commission, and the
design review board of receipt of an environmental impact
report, and shall transmit copies of the report upon request.
Environmental impact reports shall be available for public
review in the offices of the town. (Ord. 8(1973) § 16.501.)
18.56.100 Review —Time limit— Supplementary information.
A. The planning commission shall review the report within
thirty days of submission subject to an extension of the
time period thirty additional days in order to obtain
additional information from the town staff, from the
sponsor of the project, or the author of any portion of the
report,
B. The commission may receive additional statements, or
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supporting materials from the sponsor of a project, from the
town staff, from professional consultants, or from others.
Such additional materials may be considered as supple-
mentary or amendatory to the environmental impact report.
(Ord. 16(1978) § 2(b) (part); Ord. 8(1973) § 16.502.)
18.56.110 Review—Action by commission.
I A Following review of the environmental impact report, the
planning commission shall approve, disapprove, or request
changes in the project in writing. The planning commission
shall approve the project unless it finds that either the
project will have significant long-term adverse effects on
the environment with respect to the natural systems or
other factors studied as prescribed in Section 18.56.040,
or the project will have short-term adverse effects on the
environment so detrimental that public health, safety or
welfare considerations preclude approval of the project.
In the case of either findingi if changes in the project are
feasible which ameliorate or avoid the adverse effects on
the environment sufficiently to permit approval of the
project, the planning commission, in writing, shall describe
those changes and request those changes be made. If the
planning commission determines that the changes are not
feasible, it shall disapprove the project in writing, describing
the adverse effects on the environment, the significance of
the effects either to the natural systems or other factors
studied as prescribed in Section 18.56.040 or to the public
health, safety or welfare and the planning commission's
reasons for concluding that no changes in the project are
feasible to ameliorate or avoid those effects.
B. If the planning commission requests any changes in the
project which would alter the design of the project
previously approved by the design review board, and the
sponsor of the project makes those ' changes, the revised
design shall be resubmitted to the design review board for
its approval unless the planning commission waives this
requirement.
(Ord. 16(1978) § 2(b) (part); Ord. 8(1973) § 16.503.)
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18.56.115 Appeal to the town council.
A. An appeal to the town council may be made by the appli-
cant, adjacent property owner, or by the town manager.'
The town council can also call up matters by a majority
vote of those council members present.
B. For all appeals, the appeal must be filed in writing within
ten days following the decision or must be called up by the
town council at their next regularly scheduled meeting.
C. The council shall hear the appeal within thirty days of its
being filed or called up, with a possible thirty-day extension
if the council finds that there is insufficient information.
(Ord. 37(1980) § 11 (part).)
18.56.120 Permit issuance.
A. Upon approval of the project, applicable permits may be
issued and the project may proceed, subject to such addi-
tional requirements, permits, or authorizations as may be
required by this title and by other applicable ordinances or
regulations of the town. No permits shall be issued and
no authorizations shall be granted which would allow a
project to proceed in the event that the planning commis-
sion does not grant approval of the environmental impact
report after review. No permits shall be issued and no autho-
rizations shall be granted for any project which does not
conform substantially to the description of the project
contained in the environmental impact report.
B. This section shall not apply to a project for which an
environmental impact report is not required, as prescribed
in Section 18.56.030.
(Ord. 16(1978) § 2(b) (part). Ord. 8(1973) § 16.504.)
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Town of Vail Noise Ordinance
8.24.060 Noise prohibited.
A. The making and creating of an excessive or an un
loud noise at any location within the town heard and
measured in a manner hereinafter set forth, shall be unlaw-
ful: except when made under and in compliance with a
permit issued pursuant to subsection F of this section.
B. An excessive or unusually loud noise shall be defined as
follows:
I. Noise of any duration which exceeds the allowable
noise limit for the zone in which the noise source is
located by fifteen DBA.
2. A noise, one minute or more in duration out of any
ten - minute period, which exceeds the allowable noise
limit for the zone in which the noise source is located
by ten decibels.
3. A noise of five minutes in duration and a total of five
minutes out of any ten - minute period, which exceeds
the allowable noise limit for the zone in which the
noise source is located_ by three decibels.
C. For the purpose of determining and classifying any noise
as excessive or unusually loud as declared to be unlawful
and prohibited by this section, the noise shall be measured
on a decibel_ or sound level meter of standard design and
quality operated on the A Weighting Scale.,
1. If the noise source is located on private property, the
noise shall be measured at or beyond the property
line of the property on which the noise source is lo-
cated.
2. If the noise source is located on public property, the
noise shall be measured no closer than ten feet from the
noise source.
D. The following shall be the allowable noise limits for the
time periods and zones specified;
Zoning Designation of
the Property on Which Maximum Number Maximum.Number
the source of the of Decibels Permitted of Decibels Permitted
Noise is Located from 7 am. to I Ipm. from lip m. to lam.
1. All residential zones 55 decibels 50 decibels
excepting HDMF
2. Commercial plus HDMF 65 decibels 60 decibels
3. Industrial service zones 80 decibels 73 decibels
F. Applications for a specified permit to exceed noise level
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designated in this section may be made to the town manager
or his duly authorized representative. The town manager o "r
his duly authorized representative may grant the relief as
applied for if he finds the following:
1. That additional time is necessary for the applicant
to alter or modify his activity or operation to comply
with this section.
2. The activity, operation or noise source will be of tempo-
rary duration, and cannot be done in a manner that will
comply with subsection A.
3. That no other reasonable ;alternative', is; available to the
applicant.
4. That the permit is necessary for the community's cultu,
ral, historical or social benefit. The town manager may
prescribe any conditions or requirements he deems neces
sary to minimize adverse effects upon the communit,
or the surrounding neighborhood, including but no-
limited to specific times or functions of the noise or
location of the noise source. Any permit granted by th+
town manager, under this section shall contain all con
ditions upon which the permit has been granted ant
shall specify a reasonable time that the permit shall bi
effective.
F. The maximum permissible noise limits for the times an(
zones specified in subsection D of this section shall no
apply to sound emitted from the followings
1. Any authorized emergency vehicle when responding t,
an emergency call or acting in time of an emergency;
2. Activities of a temporary duration permitted by lai
and for which a license or permit therefor has bee
granted by the town, including but not limited t
parades and fireworks displays;
3. Any construction equipment operated upon a res
dential, commercial, industrial, or public premiss
during the time period between, seven a.m. and seve
p.m.; provided, however, that the operation of th
construction equipment during the hours of seven a.n
and seven p.m. shall not exceed ninety decibels;
4. Any snowmaking equipment;
5. Any motor vehicles designated for and operated c
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the public streets, alleys, highways or freeways;
6. The sounds of any permitted bells or chimes or the
amplified reproductions of the sounds of any bells or
chimes played between the hours of eight a.m. to seven
p.m., provided that said sounds shall not exceed eighty
decibels.
G. Motor vehicle noise. No person shall operate nor shall the
owner permit the operation of any motor vehicle or combi-
nation of motor vehicles at any time or place when such
operation exceeds the following noise levels for the cate-
gory of motor vehicle and for the designated time period
specified in the table set forth below. The standards set
forth in this table shall apply to all noise emitted from
motor vehicles including any and all equipment thereon,
under any conditions of acceleration, deceleration, idle,
greater load, and whether or not in motion. Maximum
allowable noise levels for motor vehicles shall be as follows:
Measurement
Maximum Allowable Distance
Type of Vehicle Time Period Noise Levels from Vehicle
Vehicles weighing less any time 80 decibels 25 feet
than 10,000 pounds,
manufacturer's gross
vehicle weight
Vehicles weighing any time 90 decibels 25 feet
more than 10,000
pounds manufacturer's
gross vehicle weight
1t is unlawful for any person to drive or move or for the
owner of any motor vehicle to permit to be driven or
moved, any motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles
at any time which is not equipped with an exhaust muffler.
It is unlawful for any person or for the owner of any motor
vehicle to change or modify the exhaust muffler, air intake
muffler, or any other sound-reducing device in such a man-
ner that the noise emitted from the motor vehicle (1) ex-
ceeds the noise levels as established in the maximum allow-
able noise level table for motor vehicles or (2) is increased
above the sound pressure level of the vehicle as originally
manufactured.
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ATTACHMENT
Town of Vail Noise Ordinance'
8.24.060 Noise prohibited.
A. The making and creating of an excessive or an un .
loud noise at any .location within they -town heard and
measured in a manner hereinafter set forth, shall be unlaw-
ful; except when made under and in compliance with a
permit issued pursuant to subsection F of this section.
B. An excessive or unusually loud noise shall be defined as
follows:
1. Noise of any duration which exceeds the allowable
noise limit for the zone in which the noise source is
located by fifteen DBA.
2. A noise, one minute or more in duration out of any
ten - minute period, which exceeds the - allowable noise
Emit for the zone in which the noise source is located
by ten decibels.
3. A noise of five minutes in duration and a total of five
minutes out of any ten - minute period, which exceeds
the allowable noise limit for the zone in which the
noise source is located by three decibels.
C. For the purpose of determining and classifying any noise
as excessive or unusually loud as declared to be unlawful
and prohibited by this section, the noise shall be measured
on a decibel or sound level meter of standard design and
quality operated on the A Weighting Scale.
1. If the noise source is located on private property, the
noise shall be measured at or beyond the property
line of the property on which the noise source is lo-
cated.
2. If the noise source is Iocated on public property, the
noise shall be measured no closer than ten feet from the
noise source.
D. The following shall be the allowable noise limits for the
time periods and zones specified;
Zoning Designation of r
the Property on Which Maximum Number Maximum Number
the source of the of Decibels Permitted of Decibels Permitted
Noise is Located from 7 am. to I I pm, from I I pm. to 71m.
1. All residential zones - 55 decibels 50 decibels
excepting HDMF
2. Commercial plus HDMF 65 decibels 60 decibels
3. Industrial service zones 80 decibels 75 decibels
E. Applications for a specified permit to exceed noise level
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M
designated in this section may be made to the town manager
or his duly authorized representative. The town manager 0'r
his duly authorized representative may grant the relief as
applied for if he finds the following:
1. That additional time is necessary for the applicant
to alter or modify his activity or operation to comply
with this section.
2. The activity, operation or noise source will be of tempo-
rary duration, and cannot be done in a manner that will
comply with subsection A.
3. That no other reasonable alternative is available to the
applicant.
4. That the permit is necessary for the community's cultu-
ral, historical or social benefit. The town manager may
prescribe any conditions or requirements he deems neces
sary to minimize adverse effects upon the communit)
or the surrounding neighborhood, including but not
limited to specific times or functions of the noise or
location of the noise source. Any permit granted by tht
town manager under this section shall contain all con
ditions upon which the permit has been granted anc
shall specify a reasonable time that the permit shall bt
effective.
The Maximum permissible noise limits for the times an(
zones specified in subsection D of this section shall no
apply to sound emitted from the following:
1. Any authorized emergency vehicle when responding t(
an emergency call or acting in time of an emergency;
2. Activities of a temporary duration permitted by lav
and for which a license or permit therefor has bees
granted by the town, including but not limited ti
parades and fireworks displays;
3., Any construction equipment operated upon a res:
dential, commercial, industrial, or public premise
during the time period between seven a.m. and seve
p.m.; provided, however, that the operation of th
construction equipment during the hours of seven a.rr
and seven p.m. shall not exceed ninety decibels;
4. Any snowmaking equipment;
5. Any motor vehicles designated for and operated o
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the public streets, alleys, highways or freeways;
6. The sounds of any permitted bells or chimes or the
amplified reproductions of the sounds of any bells or
chimes played between the hours of eight a.m. to seven
p.m., provided that said sounds shall not exceed eighty
decibels.
G. Motor vehicle noise. No person shall operate nor shall the
owner permit the operation of any motor vehicle or combi-
nation of motor vehicles at any time or place when such
operation exceeds the following noise levels for the cate-
gory of motor vehicle and for the designated time period
specified in the table set forth below. The standards set
forth in this table shall apply to all noise emitted from
motor vehicles including any and all equipment thereon,
under any conditions of acceleration, deceleration, idle,
greater load, and whether or not in motion. Maximum
allowable noise levels for motor vehicles shall be as follows:
Measurement
Maximum Allowable Distance
Type of Vehicle Time Period Noise Levels from Vehicle
Vehicles weighing less any time 80 decibels 25 feet
than 10,000 pounds,
manufacturer's gross
vehicle weight
Vehicles weighing any time 90 decibels 25 feet
more than 10,000
pounds manufacturer's
gross vehicle weight
It is unlawful for any person to drive or move or for the
owner of any motor vehicle to permit to be driven or
moved, any motor vehicle or combination of motor vehicles
at any time which is not equipped with an exhaust muffler.
It is unlawful for any person or for the owner of any motor
vehicle to change or modify the exhaust muffler, air intake
muffler, or any other sound-reducing device in such a man-
ner that the noise emitted from the motor vehicle (1) ex-
ceeds the noise levels as established in the maximum allow-
able noise level table for motor vehicles or (2) is increased
above the sound pressure level of the vehicle as' originally
manufactured.
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Planning and Environmental Commission
FROM: Community Development Department
DATE: January 24, 1994
SUBJECT: A request for PEC review of the Vail Associates Shop Expansion
conditions of previous approval, located on an unplatted parcel of
property, 243 South Frontage Road West.
Applicant: Vail Associates/Tim Kehoe
Planner: Jim Curnutte
INTRODUCTION
On July 26, 1993, Vail Associates, Inc. received Planning and Environmental Commission
approval of a conditional use permit to allow for the expansion of the shop/vehicle
maintenance building located at 243 South Frontage Road West. The approved addition,
which will be constructed in two phases, allowed for an approximate 6,850 square foot
expansion to the eastern most building on the property. There were no additions proposed to
the other two buildings on the property. The shop/vehicle maintenance building, and the
space in the proposed addition, are used primarily for vehicle maintenance, including
passenger vehicles, busses, snowcats and snowmobiles. Additional uses in the facility
include radio dispatch, offices for facility personnel, employee meeting space, locker rooms,
restrooms, and tool and parts storage.
During the July 26th PEC meeting, a number of issues were identified and discussed by the
PEC regarding the proposed shop/vehicle maintenance building expansion (see Attachment
#1, Staff Memorandum to PEC). The issues discussed included the parking requirement of
the proposed expansion, landscape improvements to the property, possible highway access
permit modifications, possible impacts to West Forest Road, discussion of a long-term joint
maintenance agreement for West Forest Road, noise and lighting impacts associated with the
maintenance facility, and proposed building design and materials. (See Attachment #2,
minutes from the July 26, 1993 PEC meeting.)
Upon review of the criteria and findings in Section 18-60-60 of the Vail Municipal Code, the
Planning Commission approved the conditional use permit subject to eleven conditions. Two
of the conditions of approval (No. 6 and No. 10) related to the proposed parking layout and
possible noise impacts associated with the project. The PEC determined that the possible
impacts associated with these two issues should be re-evaluated at the second PEC meeting
in January. The purpose of this discussion is to allow the PEC to review additional
information on noise and parking associated with the use and to determine if any additional
measures should be taken by Vail Associates to lessen noise and parking impacts.
Staff has included the following information in order to allow the PEC to re-evaluate the
previously mentioned conditions of approval.
NOISE IMPACTS
At the July 26, 1993, PEC meeting, the project manager of the Vail Spa Condominiums
expressed concern regarding the impacts associated with operations at the Vail Associates,
Inc. service yard. Specifically, Al Hauser, Vail Spa Condominium Manager, was concerned
with the intensity of the lights emanating from the property, as well as the snow grooming
vehicles themselves. The second concern raised by Mr. Hauser involved the noise generated
by the electronic backup alarms, which sound when the snow grooming vehicles are put in
reverse gear. Mr. Hauser indicated that the loud beeping sounds made by these vehicles is
intensified by the fact that the snow grooming employees change shifts in the middle of the
night. At that time, Vail Spa had received numerous complaints from guests demanding to be
relocated to other portions of the building. Mr. Hauser suggested that the snow cat parking
area should be moved from the east end of the property to the west end, and also requested
that Vail Associates implement other noise mitigation measures.
Vail Associates has responded to the concerns raised the Vail Spa by retrofitting the snow
grooming vehicles with backup alarm kill switches. A snow cat operator can manually turn off
the backup alarms in instances where, in the opinion of the operator, it is not necessary for
safety reasons. Vail Associates has also instructed their cat operators to keep the RPM's of
the machines at an absolute minimum and to not use the backup alarms at all during their late
evening and early morning shifts. Additionally, Vail Associates has changed their shift
schedule from two shifts in a 24-hour period to three shifts, thereby reducing the number of
vehicles operating on the property, at any given time. Finally, Vail Associates has installed
additional landscaping on the berm located on the east side of the shop/vehicle maintenance
property.
A discussion with Al Hauser, on January 20, 1994, indicated that he is happy with the effort
that Vail Associates has made to reduce the noise impacts from their operation. Mr. Hauser
said that the number of complaints he has received is significantly less than in the past and
that he has not noticed the backup alarms being a problem at all. Mr. Hauser stated that the
noise with the most impact comes from the tracks of the vehicles rubbing against the
pavement. Mr. Hauser suggested that Vail Associates ask the snowcat operators to reduce
turning movements as much as possible.
Tim Wysong, Vail Associates fleet manager, indicated that the noise of snow cat tracks
operating on pavement is indeed the loudest sound produced on the property. He said that
Vail Associates attempts to keep packed snow in the area where the cats are parked, to
muffle the track noise, however, during warm spells it is not always possible.
Section 8.24.060 of the Vail Municipal Code (Noise Prohibited) states that:
"The making and creating of an excessive or an unusually loud noise at any location
within the town heard and measured in a manner hereinafter set forth, shall be
unlawful; except when made under and in compliance with a permit issued pursuant to
Subsection F of this Section."
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A copy of the Town of Vail Noise Ordinance is provided for PEG review (see Attachment #3).
As indicated in the Town of Vail Noise Ordinance, allowable noise limits within the Town of
Vail are categorized into three zoning designations (residential, commercial, and industrial
service zones). Noise allowance maximums are also divided into two specific time periods
(7:00 A.M. - 11:00 P.M. and 11:00 P.M. - 7:00 A.M.). The Vail Associates shop/vehicle
maintenance property is zoned Arterial Business District. In staff's opinion, it is not clear
whether the use taking place on this property should be classified in the commercial or the
industrial designation for noise compliance review. Staff recommends that the Planning and
Environmental Commission make a determination as to what category the maintenance yard
fits. This determination will have an effect on Vail Associates' ability to show compliance with
the Town of Vail Noise Ordinance.
Also as indicated in the Town of Vail Noise Ordinance, the definition of an excessive or
unusually loud noise is defined in three ways. One, a noise shall not ever exceed 15 decibels
(dB) above the maximum allowable noise limit listed for the time periods and zones specified.
Two, a noise may exceed the allowable noise limit by 10 dB if it lasts for no more than one
minute in any 10- minute period. Three, a noise may exceed the allowable noise limit by 3 dB
for up to 5 minutes in duration out of any 10 minute period. Staff has conducted a number of
site visits to the Vail Associates shop/vehicle maintenance property in order to confirm
compliance with the above - referenced code. Readings showed that the decibel level of snow
cats idling is generally between 50 and 60 dB. The backup alarm beepers which are turned
on for durations of up to 15 seconds produce a dB level of approximately 75 to 77 dB. The
cats while moving on the pavement at the shop have a dB level ranging from 60 to 60.
For comparison purposes, general readings of the noise level in the neighborhood were also
taken from the top of the berm on the eastern side of the Vail Associates shop property with
no snow cats or other equipment operating on the property. The noise level of cars, buses,
and semi's using the Frontage Road and 1 -70 show consistent noise levels ranging from 60 to
75 dB.
SNOW CAT PARKING LOCATION
At the PEC meeting of July 26, 1993, it was suggested by Al Hauser that noise impacts on
Vail Spa Condominiums could be greatly reduced by relocating the parking area of the snow
grooming vehicles from the eastern end of the property to the far western end of the property.
For functional reasons, Vail Associates preferred to keep the snow grooming on the eastern
end of the property and asked the Planning Commission to re- evaluate their noise mitigation
procedures in the middle of the ski season to determine whether or not their attempts to
reduce noise impacts had been successful, thereby eliminating the necessity to relocate the
grooming vehicle parking location. As mentioned previously, noise impacts on the Vail Spa
Condominiums have been greatly reduced as a result of the noise reduction measures
implemented by Vail Associates.
During a conversation with Mr. Hauser on January 20, 1994, he indicated that he felt that
relocation of the parking area was no longer necessary. Additionally, Tim Wysong told me
that when the Phase II expansion occurs in the summer of 1994, snow cats coming off of the
mountain will drive directly into the new bays at the western end of the building where they will
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be serviced and stored until the next shift leaves. Therefore, next season's use of the eastern
end of the property for snow cat parking will be significantly less than the current use.
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ATTACHMENT #1
MEMORANDUM
TO: Planning and Environmental Commission
FROM: Community Development Department
DATE: July 26, 1993
SUBJECT: A request for a conditional use permit to allow for the expansion of the
shop/vehicle maintenance building at the Vail Associates, Inc., service yard
located on an unplatted parcel of property, 243 South Frontage Road West.
Applicant: Vail Associates/Tim Kehoe and Jack Hunn
Planner: Jim Curnutte
Tim Kehoe and Jack Hunn, on behalf of Vail Associates, Inc., are requesting a conditional use
permit to expand the easternmost building at the Vail Associates, Inc. service yard, 243 South
Frontage Road West. The Vail Associates, Inc. service yard is located within the Arterial
Business (AB) Zone District. Within the AB district, a service yard requires a conditional use
perTnit and any expansion of the yard requires review and approval by the PEC under the
conditional use section of the Vail Municipal Code.
The proposed building addition, which will be constructed in two phases, will be approximately
6,850 square feet in size, bringing the total floor area of the easternmost building to
approximately 15,500 square feet. There are no planned additions to the two other buildings
on the property which are used mainly for storage. The easternmost building, and the space
in the proposed addition will be used primarily for vehicle maintenance, including passenger
vehicles, buses, snowcats and snowmobiles. Additional uses in the facility will include radio
dispatch, offices for facility personnel, employee meeting space, locker rooms, restrooms and
tool and parts storage.
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-The Vail Associates, Inc. service yard property was zoned Heavy Service (HS) District in May
of 1969, when the Town of Vail established its original comprehensive zoning regulations. At
the time, warehouses, motor vehicle repair shops, maintenance facilities and contractors
yards were all "uses by right" in the HS district.
-in August of 1971, a building permit was issued for the 8,660 square foot shop/vehicle
maintenance facility, which is now proposed for expansion.
•The 106 foot x 30 foot (3,180 square feet) lift maintenance building was built in August of
1973 and the 120 foot x 70 foot (9,260 square feet, including a subsequent 20 foot x 43 foot
addition) warehouse was built sometime in 1978 after receiving a building bulk control
variance in June of 1978.
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•In 1977 and 1978 conditional use permits were issued for the purpose of placing temporary
office trailers on the property.
-In June of 1982, the Town created the Arterial Business District and rezoned the area west of
Lionshead (including the V.A. service yard property) from HS to the AB district.
•At the PEC worksession on July 12, 1993, the proposed shop/vehicle maintenance building
expansion request was discussed. The purpose of the July 12, 1993 worksession was to
receive direction from the PEC regarding a number of discussion issues that the staff had
identified, as well as to allow Vail Associates, Inc. time to respond to any additional concerns
the PEC may have prior to the final conditional use permit hearing. The discussion issues
identified by the staff included the parking requirement of the proposed expansion, landscape
improvements to the property, possible highway access permit modifications, possible impacts
to West Forest Road, discussion of a long-term joint maintenance agreement for West Forest
Road, and proposed building design and materials. (See attached staff memorandum
prepared for the July 12, 1993 PEC worksession for further details of each of the above-
mentioned discussion items.) During the worksession, the PEC asked the applicant to add
more landscaping than originally proposed, provide a chart detailing the use of this property in
order to determine the parking requirements and provide a detailed phasing plan which
specifies what site and building improvements will be associated with each phase of the
shop/vehicle maintenance building remodel.
-After the July 12, 1993 PEC worksession, the Vail Town Council directed staff to notify all
property owners adjacent to West Forest Road of Vail Associates', Inc. proposed shop/vehicle
maintenance building expansion request. Vail Associates, Inc. provided a list of all property
owners along West Forest Road and notices were mailed on July 16, 1993. Staff has
received a number of letters from property owners along West Forest Road in response to the
notification (see attached copies of letters received).
Ill. ZONING ANALYSIS
Allowed Existing Proposed
Site Area: 3,246 acres or same same
141,400 sq. ft.
Density: 25 DU per buildable acre -0- -0-
or 81 units
Building Height:
70% of root may not
19 ft.
19 ft,
exceed 32 ft. and none
may exceed 40 ft.
Setbacks:
north:
10 ft.
20 ft.
10 ft.
west:
15 ft. max.
50 ft.
so ft.
South:
15 ft. max.
so ft.
70 ft.
Site Coverage:
60% or 84,840 sq. ft,
15% or 21,230 -Sq. ft.
20% or 28,950 sq. ft.
Landscaping:
25% minimum or
7% or 9,665 sq. ft.
8% or 10,915 sq. ft.
35,350 sq ft, req.
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GRFA: 60% or 154,640 sq. ft. -0- -0-
Floor Area Ratio: 75% or 106,050 sq. ft. 15% or 21,062 sq. ft. 20% or 27,967 sq. ft.
Required Parking:** To be determined 85 spaces 129 spaces
by the PEC
SOG Page 10, Section IV, Factor #6 - Parking Requirements, for a more detailed explanation of the parking requirement
for this property.
IV. CRITERIA AND FINDINGS
Upon review of the criteria and findings of Section 18.62.060 of the Vail Municipal Code, the
Vail Community Development Department recommends approval of the conditional use permit
based on the following factors:
A. Consideration of Factors:
Relationship and impact • the use on development objec I tives of
the Town.
The development objectives of this zone district can be found in Section
18.29.010, the purpose section of the Arterial Business District. As stated in
the zoning code, the Arterial Business District is intended to:
"provide sites for office, public utilities, service
stations, limited light industry having no adverse
environmental impacts that provide significant on-
site tourist amenities and limited shopping and
commercial facilities serving the Town and Upper
Eagle Valley residents and guests. Multiple family
dwellings for use as employee housing will be
appropriate under specific circumstances. The
Arterial Business District is intended to insure
adequate light, air, open space and other
amenities appropriate to permitted and conditional
types of buildings and uses, and to maintain a
convenient (limited) shopping, business, service
and residential environment."
Staff believes that the proposed building addition will serve to upgrade the
quality and appearance of the property through building material upgrades as
well as other site improvements and will maintain a convenient business and
service environment.
2. The effect of the use on light and air, distribution of population,
transportation facilities, utilities, schools, parks and recreation
facilities, and other public facilities needs.
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Staff believes that the proposed maintenance building expansion will not have a
negative effect on light and air, distribution of population, transportation
facilities, utilities, schools, parks and recreation facilities and other public
facilities needs. Although staff believes, through evidence provided by the
applicant, and discussed later in this memo, that the proposed building
expansion will not produce a negative effect on transportation facilities, we do
feel that it is appropriate to point out that historically, the use of West Forest
Road by snowcats, snowmobiles and other mountain operation equipment has
had some impact on the residential use and ' has had a detrimental effect on the
quality and life span of the road pavement per the Town of Vail Engineer. The
Town of Vail Engineer believes that Vail Associates' use of West Forest Road
has resulted in increased wear disproportionate from the typical wear
experienced on other roads throughout the Town of Vail. The Town is
interested in opening discussions with Vail Associates, Inc. regarding a long-
term maintenance agreement for the continued use of West Forest Road.
3. Effect upon traffic with particular reference to congestion,
automotive and pedestrian safety and convenience, traffic flow and
control, access, maneuverability, and removal of snow from the
street and parking areas.
The letters the Town has received indicate the adjacent property owner's
frustration in dealing with the impacts on West Forest Road, resulting from its
use by mountain maintenance vehicles, i.e. snow grooming equipment,
snowmobiles, etc. Those residents on West Forest Road who have contacted
staff have indicated their belief that the proposed vehicle/maintenance
expansion will result in increased vehicle traffic to and from the mountain,
producing a negative effect on automotive and pedestrian safety and
convenience and traffic flow, as well as increasing noise and congestion along
West Forest Road.
Section 9.52.040 of the Vail Municipal Code (Injuring Street) states that:
"it is unlawful for any person to operate tractors with lug
wheels or any vehicle with wheels injurious to pavement
upon the paved public streets unless the operator first
makes adequate provisions to protect the street and
receive approval from the Town Manager for the method
of protection."
"Snowcats may operate on streets designated by the Town Manager
during certain special events approved by the Town Manager which
shall be of a duration not to exceed three hours. Such approval by the
Town Manager may include conditions that the Town Manager deems
necessary to protect the Town's streets and the health, safety and
welfare of the inhabitants of the Town."
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Additionally, Section 9.52.020 of the Vail Municipal Code (Skimobiles) states:
"it is unlawful for any person or group of persons
to operate a skimobile, ski-horse, skidoo or other
similar type of snow vehicle upon any public
street, way or sidewalk within the Town, except
upon the written authorization of the Town Council
and under the conditions set forth by the Town
Council."
Staff was also concerned that the proposed vehicle/maintenance facility
expansion would result in increased usage of West Forest Road, and therefore
asked the applicant to provide evidence that the proposed expansion would not
have an increased detrimental effect on West Forest Road above that which
currently exists. In response to staffs request for additional information, Vail
Associates, Inc. has provided evidence to justify their position that their
proposed building expansion will not increase the impact to West Forest Road
but will actually decrease its impact:
-There are currently fifteen snowcats based at the Vail Associate_ s, Inc.
service yard. Although Vail Associates, Inc. will be adding four
additional snowcats to its present fleet for use during the 1994 ski
season, they have indicated that five snowcats will be permanently
stationed on the mountain, resulting in a net reduction of one snowcat
being parked each day in the Vail Associates, Inc. service yard. The
snowcats that will be relocated to the mountain will be assigned to the
less rigorous task of transporting goods and materials on the mountain
and will likely visit the service yard on the average of every three days
for routine service and to pick up warehouse supplies rather than twice
daily for service and refueling.
- The expanded shop area will allow up to 13 snowcats to be parked
indoors overnight, thereby reducing the number. of "cold starts" and
improving maintenance efficiency and air quality.
- The number of snow cats sent out on the morning grooming shift is
being reduced from 12 to 10 thereby allowing maintenance personnel to
more thoroughly attend to the fleet before it leaves the yard. It is
believed that the improved maintenance quality resulting from the
proposed shift schedule change will reduce the down-time percentage
by 10%. Down-time results in more frequent trips back to the service
yard for maintenance and increased usage of West Forest Road. .
- Vail Associates intends to hire three additional maintenance
technicians, which should improve the maintenance quality and reduce
down-time. The applicants have indicated that the additional parking
demand resulting from the new maintenance technicians is more than
offset by the relocation of the security personnel office , which is
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currently located in the shop/vehicle maintenance building, but will be
moved to the Lionshead offices. Those employees (approximately five)
who currently show up for work at the service yard would then park in
the west day lot, 0
The applicant has provided a summary chart of the number of tracked vehicle
round trips made on West Forest Road in an average 24 hour period (see
attached). The chart provides figures for the 1992/93 ski season versus the
proposed schedule for the 1993/94 season. This chart indicates that the
average number of vehicle round trips made on West Forest Road, in an
average twenty-four hour period will be reduced from that which occurred
during the 1992/1993 season by 6.1 trips.
Although staff feels that the applicant has provided sufficient evidence to show
that the proposed shop/vehicle maintenance building expansion will not have an
incremental detrimental effect on traffic congestion, automotive and pedestrian
safety and convenience, traffic flow and control, access, maneuverability and
removal of snow from street and parking areas, we are unaware of any
authorizations granted by either the Vail Town Manager or the Vail Town
Council authorizing the historic, and proposed continued use, of West Forest
Road by snowcats and skimobiles.
Staff recommends that Vail Associates, Inc. formally request that the Town
authorize the continued use of the street for the use of the above-mentioned
equipment. If the Town Council should grant the Vail Associates, Inc. request,
they may then address certain conditions that would help alleviate the concerns
raised by the property owners along West Forest Road and the Town Engineer,
(i.e. possible limitations on hours of usage of the road, the special imposition of
speed limits specific to skimobiles, a joint maintenance agreement between Vail
Associates, Inc. and the Town of Vail specific to West Forest Road, etc.).
4. Effect upon the character of the area in which the proposed use is
to be located, including the scale and bulk of the proposed use in
relation to surrounding uses.
Improvements associated with Phasing Plan
The Vail Associates, Inc. service yard is surrounded on the east by a
vacant lot owned by Holy Cross Electric Association, on the south by the
Upper Eagle Valley Consolidated Water and Sanitation District
Headquarters and on the north by the 1-70 right-of-way and on the east
by the Vail Spa Condominium Project. In addition to the proposed
building upgrades related to the expansion of the shop/vehicle
maintenance building, Vail Associates, Inc. is proposing a number of
improvements to the service yard property intended to improve and
soften its effect upon the character of the area. These improvements
are detailed in their proposed phasing schedule, which is as follows:
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*Proposed landscaping
-Fence repair and painting
#60' x 74'6" expansion to the east including; new siding at addition,
gravel roof to match existing with gravel properly adhered to roof.
•Overhead doors in east addition.
*Parts Room to south with a portion of the proposed dormer roofs.
PHASE 11
*Remainder of building expansions to north, west and dormer on the
south.
Replace and paint remainder of wood siding to match Phase I.
•Remainder of overhead doors.
-Complete repair of existing roof to match Phase 1.
-Striping of parking lots.
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-Remove Lift Department maintenance shop building at northwest
portion of site.
-Complete site drainage and paving at west end of property.
*Stripe same paved area.
Staff appreciates Vail Associates' preparation of the above phasing plan in
response to the PEC's request, however, we are concerned with the timing of
some of the proposed site improvements. Staff recommends that the PEC
approve a phasing plan that ties all improvements on the property to the Phase
I or Phase 11 improvements to the shop/vehicle maintenance building. In the
recommendation section of this memo staff has included a new phasing plan
that we recommend as a condition of this conditional use permit request.
Noise
At the July 12, 1993 PEC worksession, the Vail Spa Condominiums were
represented by Mr. Al Hauser, Project Manager, who relayed to the PEC a
number of concerns he had with regard to the existing operation of the Vail
Associates, Inc. service yard. Specifically, Mr. Hauser was concerned with the
intensity of the lights located on the exterior of the three buildings located on
the property, with specific reference to the light located on the eastern wall of
the shop /vehicle maintenance building. Mr. Hauser stated that the Vail Spa has
received a number of complaints from its residents and guests regarding the
intensity of the light which shines directly into the west windows of the Vail Spa
Condominiums and requested that Vail Associates, Inc. attempt to alleviate this
problem. The second concern raised by Mr. Hauser involved the noise
generated by the electronic back-up alarms which sound when the snow
grooming vehicles are put in reverse gear. Mr. Hauser indicated that the loud
beeping sounds made by these vehicles is intensified by the fact that the snow
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grooming employees change shifts at 3:00 a.m. According to Mr. Hauser, over
the years, Vail Spa has received numerous complaints from guests demanding
to be relocated to other portions of the building or simply indicating their
intention not to return in future years. Mr. Hauser suggested that the snowcat
parking area should be moved from the east end of the property to the west
end, behind the warehouse building.
Section 8.24-060 of the Vail Municipal Code (Noise Prohibited) states that:
"The making and creating of an excessive or an
unusually loud noise at any location within the
Town heard and measured in a manner
hereinafter setforth, shall be unlawful; except when
made under and in compliance with a permit
issued pursuant to subsection F of this section."
Vail Associates, Inc. has responded to Vail Spa's concerns by proposing to
implement the following noise/fight operational policy.
"Snowcats will be retrofitted with a back-up alarm
kill switch, whereby the snowcat operator will
disable the alarm while operating within the shop
yard complex. A toggle switch will be installed
within all the snowcats which will allow the
operators to manually turn on the back-up alarms
in instances where, in the opinion of the snowcat
operator, it is necessary for safety reasons."
Both the Vail Spa representatives and the Town of Vail have expressed
concerns with Vail Associates, Inc. proposed noise mitigation policy. However,
Vail Associates, Inc. representatives have indicated that the employees working
within the shop yard complex are familiar with working around heavy equipment
and feel comfortable assigning the safety responsibility of engaging the back-up
alarms to individual snowcat operators on an "as needed" basis. Vail
Associates believes that the ability to manually engage the back-up alarrns only
when needed will alleviate the noise concerns expressed by Mr. Hauser and
therefore are not proposing to relocate the snowcat parking area on the east
side of the property.
Staff recommends that prior to the issuance of a building permit for the Phase I
improvements to the shop/vehicle maintenance building, Vail Associates, Inc.
provide evidence that the activities which take place on the Vail Associates, Inc.
service yard do not exceed the maximum allowed decibel level, (measured at
the property line, as specified in Section 8.24.060 of the Vail Municipal Code) or
obtain a specified permit to exceed said noise level, for good cause shown, as
authorized by the Town Manager in the above - referenced section.
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In addition to manually disengaging the back-up alarms upon entering the shop
complex property, operators will be required to extinguish their high intensity
grooming lights. Snowcats operating within the shop yard complex at night will
do so using their standard driving lights. Vail Associates, Inc. is also proposing
to direct all exterior building fighting away from the property's perimeter.
Although Vail Associates, Inc. has indicated their willingness to direct all
exterior site and building fighting away from the property's perimeter, staff would
recommend that all exterior lighting on the property be brought into compliance
with the Town's recently adopted lighting ordinance (Ordinance No. 5, Series of
1993), as a part of Phase I building improvements,
Landscaping
The applicant has improved the landscaping along the Frontage Road. Staff
recommends that additional landscaping be located along the north elevation.
We feel approximately seven cottonwoods are appropriate.
5. Such other factors and criteria as the commission deernas
applicable for the proposed use.
Staff recommends that the following factors also be considered by the PEC in
reviewing this conditional use permit request:
a. Buildin_q siding material - The Town of Vail Design Guidelines do
not allow the use of plywood siding, which is currently used on
all three of the buildings at the Vail Associates, Inc. service yard.
The applicant is proposing to utilize an approved wood siding on
the proposed Phase I addition of the building. The remainder of
the siding on the shop/vehicle maintenance building will be
brought up to Town standards with the construction of the Phase
11 improvements to the building. The existing nonconforming
siding on the lift maintenance building and the warehouse
building will be upgraded at some future date when those
buildings are remodeled.
b. Chain link fence - The property is currently bounded on the
north, west and a portion of the south by a chain link fence which
has wood slats woven throughout. As a part of their Phase I
improvements, Vail Associates, Inc. plans to remove that portion
of the fence along the south property line and repair and repaint
the remainder of the fence along the west and north property
lines. Although staff agrees that this would be an improvement
to the existing situation, we recommend that Vail Associates, Inc.
take this opportunity to fully comply with the Town's requirements
regarding fencing. Staff recommends that the fence be replaced
with a solid wood fence, of similar height, as part of Phase I
building improvements.
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C. Paved parking areas - The Vail Municipal Code requires that all
driveway and parking areas be paved. A portion of the service
yard on the far west end is currently gravel. Vail Associates, Inc.
has indicated a willingness to pave this area, however, they wish
to do so upon completion of necessary site drainage
improvements to that area of the property. Staff understands the
desire to complete necessary drainage improvements prior to
paving, however, we would like to tie this improvement to one of
the two phases of the proposed shop/vehicle maintenance
building expansion. Staff would recommend that Vail Associates,
Inc. agree to tie the paving of the western portion of the property
to the Phase 11 improvements proposed for the shop/vehicle
maintenance building.
d. Above-ground electrical service - Section 18.54.050(F)(4) of the
Vail Municipal Code requires that utility service systems to be
underground. Staff recommends that the existing overhead
power line, leading from the west property line to the warehouse
building, be placed underground in conjunction with the Phase 11
improvements to the shop/vehicle maintenance building.
6. Parking requirements.
The Zoning Code does not provide a specific parking requirement for
shop/vehicle maintenance facilities. Section 18.52.1 00(C)(1 1) of the Vail
Municipal Code (Off-Street Parking and Loading) does state, however, that the
parking requirement for any use not listed in the parking schedule shall be
"determined by the Planning Commission."
Staff believes that there is sufficient parking on this site to handle existing and
future (if the building expansion request is approved) parking needs on the site.
The parking requirement schedule located in Section 18.52.100 of the Vail
Municipal Code provides the specific parking requirement for both office and
warehouse uses but does not specifically list a parking requirement for
shop/vehicle maintenance facilities. Section 18,52.1 00(C)(1 1) of the Town of
Vail Municipal Code states that the parking requirement for any use not listed in
the parking schedule shall be "determined by the Planning Commission." At
the PEC worksession of July 12, 1993, Vail Associates provided documentation
to show that the property has sufficient parking spaces on-site to handle both
the existing use of the property and that associated with the proposed
expansion. The PEC requested that the applicant provide a chart of all uses of
the property in order to help them better determine the property's parking
requirement. Tim Weisong, Vail Associates Fleet Maintenance Manager, has
provided an updated chart specifying the utilization of specific areas on the
property during both the ski season and the summer season and how each
space is utilized. (See attached copy of chart).. This chart indicates that in the
winter season a minimum of fifty-seven par-king spaces are necessary and in
the summer season up to seventy-six parking spaces are required to satisfy
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Vail Associates' parking needs. Tim has also indicated that although not
currently striped, there are eighty-five parking spaces on the property, which
more than adequately satisfies existing parking demand.
Upon completion of the proposed shop/vehicle maintenance building expansion,
the property will be cleaned up and striped for one hundred and twenty-nine full
size vehicle spaces and seventeen implement spaces, resulting in a net gain of
forty-four parking spaces on the property. Currently in the gravel parking area,
signs indicate parking spaces which is acceptable to staff. Staff believes that
the applicant has provided sufficient information to assure the PEC that
adequate parking will be provided should the PEC grant approval of the
proposed shop/vehicle maintenance building expansion.
The Planning and Environmental Commission shall make the following findings
before granting a conditional use permit.
That the proposed location of the use in accord with the purposes of the
conditional use permit section of the zoning code and the purposes of
the district in which the site is located.
2. That the proposed location of the use and the conditions under which it
would be operated or maintained would not be detrimental to the public
health, safety, or welfare or materially injurious to properties or
improvements in the vicinity.
3. That the proposed use would comply with each of the applicable
provisions of the conditional use permit section of the zoning code.
V1. STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Staff recommends approval of the request with the following conditions to allow for the
expansion of the vehicle maintenance building at the Vail Associates, Inc., service yard. Staff
believes that the criteria and findings for a conditional use have been met, specifically that:
That the proposed location of the use in accord with the purposes of the
conditional use permit section of the zoning code and the purposes of the
district in which the site is located.
2. That the proposed location of the use and the conditions under which it would
be operated or maintained would not be detrimental to the public health, safety,
or welfare or materially injurious to properties or improvements in the vicinity.
3. That the proposed use would comply with each of the applicable provisions of
the conditional use permit section of the zoning code.
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Staff recommends that the following conditions be attached to the approval of this conditional
use permit request:
1 The siding proposed for the Phase I building addition will meet the Town's
standards as approved by the Design Review Board and will be painted to
match the remainder of the building. The remainder of the siding on the
shop/vehicle maintenance building will be brought up to Town standards in
conjunction with the construction of Phase 11 improvements of the building.
2. The existing fence located on the north and west sides of the property will be
replaced with a solid wood fence of a similar height. That portion of the fence
along the south property line will be removed and replaced with berming and
landscaping. Fence improvements will occur at the time of Phase I
improvements to the building.
3. The site drainage improvements and paving of the western portion of the
property will be completed in conjunction with the proposed Phase 11
improvements to the maintenance building.
4. All above ground utility service systems shall be placed underground in
conjunction with the Phase 11 improvements to the building.
5. All exterior lighting on the property will be brought into compliance with the
Town's lighting ordinance (Ordinance No. 5, Series of 1993) in conjunction with
Phase I improvements for the building.
6. Prior to the issuance of a building permit for Phase I improvements to the Is
maintenance building, Vail Associates shall provide evidence that the activities
that take place at the service yard do not exceed the maximum allowable
decibel level (measured at the property line as specified in Section 8.24.060 of
the Vail Municipal Code) or have obtained a specified permit to exceed said
noise level for good cause shown, as authorized by the Town Manager in the
referenced section in the memo, Section IV, Page 10.
7. Prior to the issuance of a building permit for the proposed Phase I building
improvements, Vail Associates shall have requested and received appropriate
authorization from the Town of Vail concerning the continued use of West
Forest Road.
8. The striping of all parking areas, with the exception of the gravel areas, shall be
completed as a part of Phase I improvements.
9. Staff recommends that the PEC adopt the following phasing schedule in
conjunction with the approval of this conditional use permit application.
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PHASE I
-60' x 74'6" expansion to the east including: new siding at addition,
gravel roof to match existing with gravel property adhered to roof.
•Parts Room to south with a portion of the proposed dormer roofs.
•All proposed landscaping.
*Fence replacement on north and south sides.
*Striping of all paved parking areas.
-Compliance with the Town's lighting ordinance.
-Compliance with the Town's noise ordinance.
•Authorization from Town of Vail concerning continued use of West
Forest Road.
PHASE 11
-Remainder of building expansions to north, west and dormer on the
south.
-Replace and paint remainder of wood siding to match Phase 1.
-Complete repair of existing roof to match Phase I.
•Completion of site drainage improvements and paving of area west of
warehouse building.
-The underground placement of all utility service systems.
10. Although Vail Associates has indicated that they do not wish to relocate the
existing snowcat parking area, staff believes that alternate locations are
available on the site, i.e. south of warehouse building, and we recommend that
Vail Associates be required to redesign their parking layout so that snowcat
parking spaces are located on the western portion of the site. The new parking
plan shall be submitted to staff before a building permit is released on the
project.
11. Seven additional cottonwoods shall be planted along the north property line.
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JULY 26, 1993, PEC MEETING MINUTES
s instance because it is in the Town's best interests for this site to redevelop.
It shoo be noted that Jeff Bowen left the meeting at approximately 4:00 p.m.
Greg Ams n stated it would be helpful to have the numbers in a formal
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themselves ' re easily for comparison purposes.
Diana Donovan inq * ed what the percentage of "d I ead space" was o)he site.
Jim Lamont stated that e special circumstances of the Vail letic Club should be
clearly stated. He stated th it needs to be clearly defined that 'e Vail Athletic Club has
available GRFA.
Kathy Langenwalter stated to the pplicant that there well6d be a significant number of
variances required with the project a proposed and toldthese need to be looked at and
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Diana Donovan stated that the applic, lit was on th right track and that Michael Barcley
had done a good job in addressin e PEC's conce s.
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developed sites. Krist Pritz stated there are some limitation as to what is possible to
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development di ict criteria in order for the staff to be clear upon the C's expectations.
Diana Don an stated that the existing building does not conform to the z ing standards
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5. A request fora conditional use permit to allow an expansion of the Vail Associates vehicle
maintenance shop located at the NW 1/4 NW 1/4 Section 7 and the SW 1/4 SW 1/4
Section 6, Township 5 South Range 80 W of the 60th P.M./Vail Associates.
Applicant: Vail Associates, Inc., represented by Tim Kehoe and Jack Nunn
Planner: Jim Curnutte
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Jim Curnutte stated that when notification for this item went out to adjacent property
owners, a request for a landscape variance was on the public notice because at the time,
staff was unaware that Vail Associates intended to replace the landscaping being removed
as a result of building expansion. Jim stated that a landscape variance was not being
requested by the applicant in conjunction with, this request for a conditional use permit.
Jim made a brief presentation per the staff memo and stated that the applicant was
requesting a conditional use permit to allow for the proposed expansion of the Vail
Associates' vehicle maintenance shop. He stated that although not required, notification
of this request was sent to the property owners along West Forest Road because the
Town Council felt that it was appropriate to do so in this case. He said that Vail
Associates felt that this proposed expansion would not result in an increased use of West
Forest Road. He summarized the contents of the staff memo and stated that the staff was
recommending approval of this request for a conditional use permit with the eleven
conditions contained on Pages 12 and 13 of the staff memo.
Jack Hunn, of Vail Associates, Inc., stated that they would agree to condition #1 of the
staff memo. Concerning condition #2, the fence is owned by CDOT and Vail Associates
will contact them to discuss replacement. In the meantime, he requested that the fence
be repaired and repainted as a part of Phase I improvements and replaced as a part of
Phase 11. He stated that Vail Associates would agree to conditions #3 - #6 of the staff
memo, but requested that in respect to condition #6, the decibel readings be taken in the
winter when the impact exists rather than prior to the issuance of a building permit as
suggested by staff. Concerning condition #7, Jack stated that Vail Associates assumed
that they were operating on West Forest Road with the Town's permission since the
activity has been going on for as long as it has. Jack said that they would be willing to
participate in discussions with the Town and the residents on West Forest Road, but that
he did not want this condition to be tied to the building permit for the expansion to the
vehicle/maintenance shops. Concerning condition #8, he said that Vail Associates would
agree to striping all parking areas as a part of Phase I with the exception of the gravel
areas. Concerning condition #9, Jack stated that the staff's suggested phasing schedule
would be acceptable with the exceptions previously mentioned. Condition #10, concerning
relocating .the snowcat parking areas, Jack stated that he believed that Vail Associates'
proposed noise mitigation measures would take care of the problem so he would like to
take a wait and see approach. He said that if, in the winter, there is still a noise problem,
that Vail Associates could deal with the snowcat relocation issue then. Jack stated that
condition #11 was acceptable. He stated Phase 11 was to begin in 1994.
Al Hauser, the General Manager of Vail Spa Condominiums, stated that the high intensity
grooming lights were never an issue with him. What he was most concerned about was
the lights on the east end of the vehicle maintenance/shop building and that this lighting
should not continue. He stated that he would like'to be notified when this item would be
heard by the Design Review Board so that he could have some input concerning the
lighting on the Vail Associates shop/vehicle maintenance site. Al commented that he was
not sure whether simply turning off the back-up alarms will take care of the noise problem.
Al stated that the Vail Spa Condominiums do not want to stop the project. However, they
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would like to leave their concerns open with regard to lighting and noise until later in the
season to determine whether or not Vail Associates has adequately addressed their
concerns. If later in the season there is still a problem with lighting or noise, he would like
the ability to have the PEG call this item up fora review.
Jack Hunn responded that Vail Associates had only recently become aware of the
concerns of the Vail Spa Condominiums and that they would address their concerns
issues but that they did not want issues concerning lighting and noise to delay their
building permit.
Kristan Pritz commented that it may be appropriate for Vail Associates to send a letter to
the Town stating their intent to resolve the road issue and a commitment stating their
intent to resolve the road issue and a commitment to complete the agreement before the
Phase If improvements are started. In respect to point #10, she suggested that Vail
Associates and the PEC meet at their second meeting in January of 1994 to evaluate the
noise and lighting situation.
Bruce Chapman, representing various homeowners along West Forest Road, stated that
these property owners have been bothered by snowcat traffic for many years and that the
expansion of this facility concerns them because they do not want to see increased traffic
on West Forest Road. Mr. Chapman cited Caryn Deevy's letter as an example of the
residents' concerns. He stated the proposed expansion opens the doors to allowing Vail
Associates to continue to increase their snowcat and snowmobile activities on public
roads. Mr. Chapman stated that although it may be shown that this particular building
expansion will not result in an increased impact on West Forest Road, he believes that
it does provide a larger facility and without some sort of restriction on the number of
vehicles based out of the property, the use will increase outside of any specific review by
the Town. He stated that the health, safety and well being of the citizens of Vail in this
location should take precedence over the other issues involved with this conditional use
permit. He added that the numbers that Vail Associates had come up with concerning the
West Forest Road Traffic Summary were not relevant as they were only rough estimates.
He also pointed that these calculations do not refer to snowmobiles at all. He stated that
Vail Associates plan to add snowcats to the fleet will more than likely increase not
decrease the traffic -on West Forest Road. Bruce believes that Vail Associates has
reneged on previous agreements not to increase the use of West Forest Road by
mountain maintenance vehicles.
It should be noted that at approximately 5:25 p.m., Allison Lassoe left the meeting.
Diana Donovan asked whether Vail Associates was planning to move their snowcat and
snowmobile operations onto the mountain at some future date.
Jack Hunn stated that it was Vail Associates was master planning the "Lionshead Pod"
and that they are looking for alternative sites. However, he could not promise that the
maintenance facility would be removed.
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Fred Rumford, owner of 675 West Forest Road, stated that he built his home in 1966 and
extended an invitation to the PEC members to come stay at his house for one night so
that they would have an understanding of the noise and pollution issues that the property
owners along West Forest Road are faced with. He stated that over the years, the
number and size of the snowcats have increased dramatically. Concerning condition #7
of the staff memo, he stated that Vail Associates should receive authorization from TOV
to use West Forest Road prior to being able to use the road.
Clint Ames inquired whether Vail Associates was illegally using West Forest Road. He
stated that he felt that it was significant that this issue be resolved prior to Vail Associates
going forward with its plan * s to expand the vehicle/maintenance shops. Clint felt that this
item should be tabled until the West Forest Road use issue was resolved.
Bruce Chapman stated that the TOV does have an ordinance in place addressing this
issue and agreed with Mr. Ames' statement that the issue concerning whether Vail
Associates was authorized to use West Forest Road needed to be resolved prior to any
expansion activity by Vail Associates.
Dalton Williams made a motion that the PEC adjourn into an executive session with Tom
Moorhead with Diana Donovan seconding this motion. A 4-0 vote approved this motion
to adjourn to an executive session.
After the executive session, the meeting resumed and Kathy Langenwalter stated that it
was not within the PEC's parameters to determine the legality of VA's use of West Forest
Road. She suggested that condition #7 of the staff memo be eliminated. Kathy stated
that the PECs purview in this matter related to a determination of whether or not the
proposed building expansion met the conditional use permit criteria.
Greg Amsden stated that he had no additional comments concerning the building. He
suggested that the total number of vehicles on the site be limited to what exists at the
present so that traffic problems do not increase as a result of this request.
Diana Donovan stated that she would like to see additional trees and shrubs planted on
the east end of the property, facing Vail Spa Condominiums. She said that she would not
necessarily need to see the fence replaced if it were screened heavily with landscaping
so that it was concealed from view.
Both Dalton and Greg agreed with Diana's comment.
Kathy Langenwalter stated that the number of snowcats and snowmobiles based on the
property should be limited to what is there now. Kathy stated that if the PEC were to
choose to approve this request, a condition could be added to limit the number of
snowcats and snowmobiles on the property to what currently exists now.
Bruce Chapman stated that the snowcats would still be going back and forth for
maintenance and service trips. Bruce suggested that if the conditional use permit is
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granted, that it be limited to a certain number of years to see if Vail Associates works out
the concerns expressed by the neighborhood.
Tim Wysong, Vail Associates Fleet Maintenance Manager, explained that the proposed
building expansion would improve service and reduce vehicle breakdowns which, along
with the relocation of five snowcats onto the mountain, will reduce the number of vehicle
trips on West Forest Road.
Diana Donovan stated that the PEC is also concerned with safety issues and also does
not want to see West Forest Road or the service yard property overloaded with too many
vehicles. It was her belief, however, from the evidence provided at the meeting, that this
request is not an expansion of the activities on the property, it is an improvement to what
currently exists now and would most likely result in decreased trips up and down West
Forest Road.
Bruce Chapman stated that he would like to see the amount of trips up and down West
Forest Road decreased and that this number be determined and regulated.
Jack Hunn stated that this would be difficult to regulate.
Kathy Langenwalter stated that she needed to make sure that the PEC addresses the
issues related to the conditional use criteria and that it was appropriate for others (Town
Council and the Town Manager) to address issues related to the use of West Forest
Road. She stated that for the PEC's purposes, that the West Forest Road Traffic
Summary and the Vail Shopyard Parking Plan were adequate documents to use with
regard to understanding existing usage of the service yard property.
Kristan Pritz clarified that the vehicle trips outlined in the Vail Associates memo dated july
8, 1993 from Tim Wysong to Jim Cumutte showed the traffic counts that the PEC felt were
acceptable. The PEC agreed with the comment.
Fred Rumford stated that he wanted to know what Vail Associates would be proposing in
three or four years and how could property owners on West Forest Road be assured that
traffic would not increase as a result of any proposed expansion.
Greg Amsden stated that the issue with West Forest Road is a legal matter that needs to
be addressed with the Town of Vail and Vail Associates, Inc. He stated that the PEC was
not the proper forum to address such legal matters.
Bruce Chapman stated that he felt that the West Forest Road issue should be addressed
by the PEC because the criteria that the PEC looks at deals with the effect upon the
character of the area in the vicinity of the proposed use.
Diana Donovan made a motion per the staff memo for approval of this request for a
conditional use permit to allow for an expansion of the Vail Associates shop/ vehicle
maintenance building with the following modified conditions of the staff memo (in bold):
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i. The siding proposed for the Phase I building addition will meet the Town's
standards as approved by the Design Review Board and will be painted to match
the remainder of the building. The remainder of the siding on the shop/vehicle
maintenance building will be brought up to Town standards in conjunction with the
construction of Phase 11 improvements of the building. The PEC felt that this
condition was acceptable.
2. The existing fence located on the north and west sides of the property will be
replaced with a solid wood fence of a similar height. That portion of the fence
along the south property line will be removed and replaced with berming and
landscaping. Fence improvements will occur at the time of Phase I improvements
to the building. The PEC felt that the existing fence should be repaired and
repainted as a part of Phase I improvements and be heavily screened by
landscaping. The replacement of the fence was deemed unnecessary.
3. The site drainage improvements and paving of the western portion of the property
will be completed in conjunction with the proposed Phase 11 improvements to the
maintenance building. The PEC felt that this condition was acceptable.
4. All above ground utility service systems shall be placed underground in conjunction
with the Phase 11 improvements to the building. The PEC felt that this condition
was acceptable.
5. All exterior lighting on the property will be brought into compliance with the Town's
lighting ordinance (Ordinance No. 5, Series of 1993) in conjunction with Phase I
improvements for the building. The PEC felt that this condition was acceptable.
6. Prior to the issuance of a building permit for Phase I improvements to the
maintenance building, Vail Associates shall provide evidence that the activities that
take place at the service yard do not exceed the maximum allowable decibel level
(measured at the property line as specified in Section 8.24.060 of the Vail
Municipal Code) or have obtained a specified permit to exceed said noise level for
good cause shown, as authorized by the Town Manager in the referenced section
in the memo, Section IV, Page 10. The PEC felt that this condition was
acceptable but agreed with Vail Associates' request to perform the reading
during the snow season rather than prior to the issuance of a building
permit. The issue will be reviewed by the PEC at their second meeting in
January 1994.
7. Prior to the issuance of a building permit for the proposed Phase I building
improvements, Vail Associates shall have requested and received appropriate
authorization from the Town of Vail concerning the continued use of West Forest
Road. The PEC eliminated this condition.
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8. The striping of all parking areas, with the exception of the gravel areas, shall be
completed as a part of Phase I improvements. The PEC felt this condition was
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9. The PEC adopted the following phasing schedule in conjunction with the approval
of this conditional use permit application.
PHASE I
-60'x 74'6" expansion to the east including: new siding at addition, gravel
roof to match existing with gravel properly adhered to roof.
-Parts Room to south with a portion of the proposed dormer roofs.
-All proposed landscaping, with especially heavy treatment along the north
property line.
-Striping of all paved parking areas.
-Compliance with the Town's lighting ordinance.
-Compliance with the Town's noise ordinance, measured during snow
season.
PHASE 11
-Remainder of building expansions to north, west and dormer on the south.
-Replace and paint remainder of wood siding to match Phase I.
-Complete repair of existing roof to match Phase 1.
•completion of site drainage improvements and paving of area west of
warehouse building.
-The underground placement of all utility service systems.
The PEC felt that Phase I improvements should be completed in 1993
and Phase If improvements should be completed in 1994.
10. Although Vail Associates has indicated that they do not wish to relocate the
existing snowcat parking area, staff believes that alternate locations are available
on the site, ie. south of warehouse building, and we recommend that Vail
Associates be required to redesign their parking layout so that snowcat parking
spaces are located on the western portion of the site. The new parking plan shall
be submitted to staff before a building permit is released on the project. The PEC
felt that this issue should be reevaluated at the second PEG meeting in
January.
11. Seven additional cottonwoods shall be planted along the north property line. The
PEC felt that significant landscaping should be added to this site and rather
than put a number on it they felt it should be left up to the DRB.
It was also again mentioned that the chart dated July 8, 1993 from Tim Wysong outlined
acceptable traffic.
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July 26, 1993
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Dalton Williams seconded this motion and a 4-0 vote approved this request.
A-request4o-an-fendl'he—development plan for the Golden Peak Base to allow a building
for public restrooms and employee locker rooms located at Tract F, Vail Village/5th
,Filing/458 Vail Valley Drive.
Ap Vail Associates, Inc., represented by Tim Kehoe
Plana : Tim Devlin
Tim Devl\made a presentation per the staff memo. He said to,,�t Public Works is
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investigatin hether the Town of Vail has a bikepath easement thrp9gh the southern part
oft of the site. H tated that staff was recommending approval o Pis to amend the
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development pl for the Golden Peak Ski Base Are pe he staff memo with the
suggestion conce ing how the trees/shrubs should be re aced, and that they should
survive more Nthan o, growing seasons or be replaced.
Tim then read, a letter hick he received from Ji , Lamont (East Vail Homeowners
Association) to the PE members addressing Ze concerns that the Homeowners
Association has regarding is proposal. posal.
Jack Hunn stated that he belle ed that V/ailssociates had granted the Town of Vail an
easement for the bikepath members
s outher part of the site.
Dalton Williams stated that he was��C&etrned with safety and that he would like to see
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snowmelting in the asphalt area b en the new and existing buildings. He stated that
this could create hazards on th e7sit\e.D Dalton stated that he would like to see the
redevelopment completed prope He uld like to see public safety and public welfare
issues addressed, and that dog a site "pi emeal" development was a concern to him.
He wanted to allow for access to the tennis courts around the west planter.
Jack Hunn stated that thplredevelopment of the Noldetn Peak Ski Base would not occur
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this year but that they wire looking at it seriously .,u ur e years. Jack Hunn stated that
he felt the revised development plan they were prop sing would reduce the amount of
traffic in this area.
Bill Pierce, architect for the project, stated that he had consu dwith Ted Rysack and that
he had said that bobcats could help control snowmelt concer
Diana Donovan stated that a small cluster of trees should be addekby the stairs leading
to the tennis courts. She said that the doors on the trash area were ositive. She said
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that it was her feeling that parking needed to be more thoroughly addr ed.
Bill/Pierce stated that parking is assigned at Golden Peak and there are seven persons
who have lockers in the lift operators locker room.
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/Jack Hunn stated that there would be few additional employees as a result of this requ kt.
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Planning and Environmental Commission
FROM: Community Development Department, Kristan Pritz
DATE: January 24, 1994
SUBJECT: REVIEW OF PLANNING STAFF SERVICES TO THE PLANNING AND
ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION
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At the end of our agenda on January 24th, I have scheduled some time to discuss how our
planning staff provides service to the PEC. Listed below are some questions I would like to
discuss with the PEC.
1. Do you like the revised format for staff presentations, i.e., the staff presentations are
very brief?
2. Do you like the project orientation format before the meeting?
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3. Do you like using two cars as opposed to the minibus for site visits?
4. How can we improve our memos, presentations, etc.?
5. Are the memos and minutes too thorough? Too concise?
Thanks for your time. I look forward to hearing your constructive suggestions!
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