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1. A request for a wall height variance to allow for a single family residence to be
constructed at 2840 Basin dale /Lot 4, Block 9, Intermountain Subdivision.
Beginning at a point on the southerly boundary of the parcel of land shown on the Condominium Map for the Colorado
Mountain Condominiums recorded in Book 387 at Page 620 in the office of the Eagle County, Colorado, Clerk and
Recorder, whence the most southerly corner of said parcel bears S 52 °50'29" W 14.16 feet distant; thence the following
nine courses along the southerly boundary of said parcel: (1) N 52 150'29" E 49.16 feet; (2) N 37 112'45" W 12.34 feet; (3)
N 52 047'15" E 1.00 feet; (4) N 37 112'45" W 1.30 feet; (5) N 52 147'15" 42.60 feet; (6) N 37 112'45" W 8.70 feet; (7) N
52 147'15" E 15.00 feet; (8) S 37 112'45" E 22.40 feet; (9) N 52 150'29" E 35.28 feet; thence departing said southerly
boundary N 52 150'29" feet; thence S 37 °09'31" E 45.34 feet thence N 52 °50'29" E 48.70 feet; thence S 37 °09'31" E
9.60 feet: thence N 52 "50'29" E 80.00 feet; thence S 37 °09'31" E 220.02 feet to Gore Creek; thence the following four
courses along Gore Creek: (1) S 49 "26'36" W 76.45 feet; (2) S 22 131'36" W 124.47 feet; (3) S 53 137'36" W 119.34 feet:
(4) S 65 °31'36" W 14.58 feet; thence N 37 109'31" W 116.45 feet to the point of beginning containing 110,200 square feet
or 2.49 acres, more or less.
PLAZA SUITE
That part of the SW 1/4 NE 1/4, Section 12, Township 5 South, Range 81 West of the Sixth Principal Meridian, Town of Vail,
Colorado, described as follows:
Beginning at the most northerly corner of Condominium Map of Colorado Mountain Condominiums according to the map
thereof recorded in Book 387 at Page 620 in the office of Eagle County, Colorado, Clerk and Recorder, whence an iron
pin with plastic cap marking the center of said Section 12 bears S 34 150'58" W 964.37 feet; thence N 56 "48'44" E
106.67 feet; thence 79.97 feet along the arc of a curve to the left having a radius of 1121.72 feet; a central angle of
04 105'04 ", and a chord that bears N 54 146'13" e 79.95 feet; thence N 52 143'41" E 28.82 feet; thence S 37 10911" E
105.76 feet; thence S 52 150'29" W 25.00 feet; thence S 37 109'31" W 25.00 feet; thence S 52 050'29" E 80.00 feet; thence
S 52 °50'29" W 15.00 feet; thence S 37 "09'31" E 16.78 feet; thence S 52 150'29" W 21.30 feet; thence S 37 °09'31" E 9.60
feet; thence S 52 150'29" W 80.00 feet: thence N 37 109'31" W 9.60 feet; thence S 52 150'29" W 48.70 feet; thence N
37 109'31" W 45.34 feet; thence S 52 150'29" W 56.96 feet to the northeasterly line of said Condominium Map of Colorado
Mountain Condominiums; thence the following three courses along said northeasterly line: (1) N 37 109'31" W 55.00 feet;
(2) N 07 °50'29" E 45.00 feet; (3) N 37 109'31" W 80.40 feet to the point of beginning, containing 1.000 acres, more or
less.
Applicant: Chris Hansen, representing the Westin Resort
Planner: George Ruther
3. A request for a conditional use permit to allow for an outdoor dining deck to be locat.1
at Garton's Saloon located at 143 East Meadow Drive/a part of Lot P, Block 5-D, Vai
Village 1 st Filing. I
Applicant: Dave Garton
Planner: Randy Stoudi
4. A request for a wall height variance and private road slope variance to allow for a
driveway to exceed 10% located at 2445 Garmisch Drive/Lots 10 and 11, Block H, Vai'
•as Schone 2nd Filing.
Applicant: Steve Sheridan and Adam Szpiech
Planner: Andy Knudtsen
5. A PEC update • revisions to previously approved setback and site coverage
variances, located at 2409 Chamonix Lane/Lot 19, Block A, Vail Das Schone 1st Filing.
Applicant: Anneliese Taylir,
Planner: Mike Mollica I
6. A request for a conditional use permit for a Type 11 Employee Housing Unit to be
located at 126 Forest Road/Lot 5, Block 7, Vail Village 1 st Filing.
Applicant: Ron Byrne
Planner: Jim Curnutte TABLED TO MAY 23,1994
7. A request for a worksession to discuss revisions to the Zoning Code to allow for
common area to be used for employee housing.
Applicant: Jay Peterson
Planner: Andy Knudtsen TABLED TO MAY 23,191
9. A request for variances for locating GRFA in the front setback and for a wall height
variance to allow for a primary residence with a Type I EHU, to be constructed at 1828
Alpine Drive/Lot 16, Vail Village West 1st Filing.
Applicant: Peter and Susanne Apostol/Michael Sanner
Planner: Mike Mollica TABLED TO JUNE 27,1994
9. A request for a variance to allow for GRFA and a garage to be located in the front
setback and a wall height variance to allow for a Primary residence with a Type I
Employee Housing Unit to be constructed at 1799 Sierra Trail/Lot 17, Vail Village West
1st Filing.
Applicant: George Plavec, represented by Erich Hill
Planner: Mike Mollica TABLED INDEFINITEI
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12. Approve minutes from April 25, 1994 PE C meeting.
13. Council Update:
-Pedotto
-Cornice Building Employee Housing Units
-Cemetery
-Noise Ordinance
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Greg Amsden Allison Lassoe Kristan Pritz
Bill Anderson Andy Knudtsen
Bob Armour George Ruther
Jeff Bowen Randy Stouder
Kathy Lanenwalter Ken Hughey
Dalton Williams Mike McGee
1. A request for a wall height variance to allow for a single family residence to be
constructed at 2840 asin dale /Lot 4, Block 9, Intermountain Subdivision.
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Andy Knudtsen
Andy Knudtsen made a presentation per the staff memo and stated that staff was
recommending .ii oval of the requested i . .e conditions
outlined on Page 3 of the staff memo.
Beginning at a point on the southerly boundary of the parcel of land shown on the Condominium Map for the Colorado
Mountain Condominiums recorded in Book 387 at Page 620 in the office of the Eagle County, Colorado, Clerk and
Recorder, whence the most southerly corner of said parcel bears S 52 050'29" W 14.16 feet distant; thence the following
nine courses along the southerly boundary of said parcel: (1) N 52 150'29" E 49.16 feet: (2) N 37 °12'45" W 12.34 feet; (3)
N 52 047'15" E 1.00 feet; (4) N 37 012'45" W 1.30 feet; (5) N 52 147'15" 42.60 feet; (6) N 37 112'45" W 8.70 feet; (7) N
52 147'15" E 15.00 feet; (8) S 37 °12'45" E 22.40 feet; (9) N 52 150'29" E 35.28 feet; thence departing said southerly
boundary N 52 150'29" feet; thence S 37 °09'31" E 45.34 feet thence N 52 150'29" E 48.70 feet; thence S 37 109'31" E
9.60 feet; thence N 52 150'29" E 80.00 feet; thence S 37 °09'31" E 220.02 feet to Gore Creek; thence the following four
courses along Gore Greek: (1) S 49 126'36" W 76.45 feet; (2) S 22 131'36" W 124.47 feet; (3) S 53 137'36" W 119.34 feet;
(4) S 65 °31'36" W 14.58 feet; thence N 37 °09331" W 116.45 feet to the point of beginning containing 110,200 square feet
or 2.49 acres. more or less.
PLAZA SUITE
That part of the SW 114 NE 1/4, Section 12, Township 5 South, Range 81 West of the Sixth Principal Meridian, Town of Vail,
Colorado, described as follows:
Planning and Environmental Commission Minutes
May 9, 1994
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Beginning at the most northerly corner of Condominium Map of Colorado Mountain Condominiums according to the map
thereof recorded in Book 387 at Page 620 in the office of Eagle County, Colorado, Clerk and Recorder, whence an iron
pin with plastic cap marking the center of said Section 12 bears S 34150'58'* W 964.37 feet; thence N 56148'44" E
106.67 feet; thence 79.97 feet along the arc of a curve to the left having a radius of 1121.72 feet; a central angle of
04105'04", and a chard that bears N 54146'13" e 79.95 feet; thence N 52 °43'41" E 28.82 feet; thence S 37,09'31" E
10536 feet; thence S 52150'29" W 25.00 feet; thence S 37009'31" W 25,00 feet; thence S 52050'29" E 80,00 feet; thence
S 52150'29" W 15.00 feet; thence S 37 °09'31" E 16.78 feet; thence S 52150'29" W 21.30 feet; thence S 37 °09'31" E 9.60
feet; thence S 52150'29" W 80.00 feet; thence N 37 °09'31" W 9.60 feet; thence S 5215029" W 48.70 feet; thence N
37009'31" W 45,34 feet; thence S 52o50'29" W 56.96 feet to the northeasterly line of said Condominium Map of Colorado
Mountain Condominiums; thence the following three courses along said northeasterly line: (1) N 37009'31" W 55.00 feet;
(2) N 07-50'29" E 45.00 feet; (3) IN 37109'31" W 80.40 feet to the point of beginning, containing 1.000 acres, more or
less.
Applicant: Chris Hansen, representing the Westin Resort
Planner: George Ruther
Dave Garton stated that the main issue with this request was the noise and that they
would be undertaking new measures this summer in order to avoid the noise
complaints which they received last summer. He said that he was in agr--
! ! outlined in the staff memo.
Kristan Pritz stated that staff was concerned with the issue of serving food and alcohol
up to 10:00 p.m. each night.
Ann Louthan, President of the Village Center Condominium Association, felt that the
noise was a problem on other nights besides Friday.
Audrey McLean, an adjacent property owner, stated that the noise from Garton's dini
deck last year was not limited to just Friday nights and that her sleep was affected
three solid months last summer. I
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Greg Amsden stated that he was in favor of the new speaker locations, that all music
should remain in the decibel range set forth in the noise ordinance, and that citations
should be issued for any violations of the noise ordinance. He said he would like to
see the driveway created by last years loading activity restored with landscaping.
Bob Armour stated that only six of the fourteen registered complaints were on Fridays.
He was in favor of shutting the music off at 10:00 p.m. He asked the applicant why
the site was not cleaned up at the end of last season. He said that he would be
looking closely to ensure that the applicant did clean up at the end of this season.
Dalton Williams stated that it was important that the applicant make an effort to clea
up the outdoor dining deck site at the end of the summer. He felt strongly that if
proper clean-up does not occur this fall that he would vote against the conditional u
permit next year. I
Bill Anderson asked the applicant how he would plead his case regarding the 10:00
41.m. closing rule.
Dave Garton said that large crowds were only a problem on Fridays and that he felt
that the 10:00 p.m. rule should only apply on Fridays. He said he would like to see
people allowed to remain on the deck past 10:00 p.m. Saturday through Thursday
nights, but that the music would be off at 10:00 p.m. every night.
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circumstances surrounding each complaint.
Ken Hughey, Chief of the Vail Police Department, stated that getting a citation was
similar to getting a traffic ticket and paying a fine was usually involved. He stated that
the Police Department would be taking a more proactive approach this year to noise
ordinance enforcement.
Greg Amsden suggested that the applicant educate his clientele regarding the closing
time of the deck.
Planning and Environmental Commission Minutes
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6. A request for a conditional use permit for a Type 11 Employee Housing Unit to be
0 located at 126 Forest Road/Lot 5, Block 7, Vail Village 1 st Filing.
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Applicant: Ron Byrne
Planner: Jim Curnutte
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A request for a worksession to discuss revisions to the Zoning Code to allow for
common area to be used for employee housing.
Applicant: Jay Peterson
Planner: Andy Knudtsen TABLED TO MAY 23,1994
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91. A request for variances for locating GRFA in the front setback and for a wall height
variance to allow for a primary residence with a Type I EHU, to be constructed at 1828
Alpine Drive/Lot 16, Vail Village West 1 st Filing.
Applicant: Peter and Susanne Apostol/Michael Sanner
Planner: Mike Mollica TABLED TO JUNE 27,1994
Jeff Bowen made a motion to table this item to the June 27, 1994 PEC meeting With
Dalton Williams seconding the motion. A 6-0 vote tabled this item to June 27, 1994.
b. A request for a variance to allow for GRFA and a garage to be located in the front
setback and a wall height variance to allow for a Primary residence with a Type I
Employee Housing Unit to be constructed at 1799 Sierra Trail/Lot 17, Vail Village Wesl
1st Filing.
Applicant: George Plavec, represented by Erich Hill
Planner: Mike Mollica TABLED INDEFINITELI
Jeff Bowen made a motion to table this item indefinitely with Dalton Williams secondimo
the motion. A 6-0 vote tabled this item indefinitely. I
10. A request for a worksession for a major amendment to the Glen Lyon SDD to allom
for a revision to the master plan to allow for the expansion of the Glen Lyon Office
Building located at 1000 South Frontage Road West/Area D, Glen Lyon SDD.
Applicant: Pierce, Segerberg and Associates
Planner: Andy Knudtsen TABLED INDEFINITEI
Planning and Environmental Commission Minutes
May 9, 1994
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Jeff Bowen made a motion to table this item indefinitely with Dalton'TJ' �2�.= DIP-q
the motion. A 6-0 vote tabled this item indefinitely. I
A request for a worksession for a front setback and wall height variances to allow for
additions to an existing Primary/Secondary residence located at 226 Forest Road/Lot
11 A Block 7, Vail Village 1 st Filing.
Applicant: John Krediet
Planner: Randy Stouder TABLED INDEFINITEI
Jeff Bowen made a motion to table this item indefinitely with Dalton Williams secondi
the motion. A 6-0 vote tabled this item indefinitely. I
Jeff Bowen made a motion to approve the minutes from the April 25, 1994 PEC
meeting with Greg Amsden seconding the motion. A 5-0-1 vote approved the April 25,
1994 PEC minutes with Bob Armour abstaining as he was absent from this meeting.
Kathy Langenwalter stated that before the Council update, she would like to discuss
the design requirements for hillside properties.
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-Peclotto
-Cornice Building Employee Housing Units
-Cemetery
-Noise Ordinance
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0 MEMORANDUM
FROM: Community Development Department
DATE: May 9, 1994
SUBJECT: A request for a conditional use permit to allow for an outdoor bar and dining, 0
deck operation at the Garton's Saloon, Crossroads Center, located at 143 Ea
Meadow Drive/Lot 1, Block 5D, Vail Village First Filing. i
Applicant: Garton's Saloon/Dave Garton
Planner: Randy Stouder
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Section 18.28.040(l)(Conditional Use) of the Vail Municipal Code allows for "any use permitteilt,
by Section 18.28.030 which is not conducted entirely within a building." Section 18.28.030(E)
allows for "eating and drinking establishments, including the following: ... Cocktail lounges,'
taverns, and bars." Please see the attached site plan for the proposed "ranchyard"
configuration.
WORKSESSION ISSUES
A. Operational Issues
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Issue #4:
Does the PEC still feel that the parking situation of last year worked effectively
and should we continue with the same situation of providing the valet parking
spaces and allowing the ranchyard setup to remain in place during the day?
Should the term of the conditional use permit be restricted to the proposef
seasonal operation • one year at a time?
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The PEC felt that Mr. Garton should use Crossroads existing loading facilitie
Staff concurs. Mr. Garton will comply with this request. I
Should the exterior appearance of the ranchyard • improved'
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Staff believes that certain activities such as the horseshoe pits may have been
operated off-site on Town or State property in the right-of-way.
The PEC felt that all activities associated with the ranchyard should be
contained on the Crossroads property. Staff concurs and will enforce this. Mr.
Garton agrees.
Banners and flyers became a problem at times last year. The applicant put up
the banners and flyers advertising activities at the ranchyard.
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Mr. Garton has agreed to abide by the Sign Code.
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The proposed displacement of twelve parking spaces during the June 1 to November 1
months to accommodate this request was first proposed by the applicant to be "absorbed" by
the adjacent Vail Parking Structure which is free during the off-season months. The applicant
proposes to compensate for the loss of twelve spaces by providing valet parking as shown O_r
the drawing attached to Mr. Garton's letter.
The proposed operation is allowed as a conditional use per the aforementioned sections
18,28.040(1) and 18.28.030(E) of the Municipal Zoning Code.
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The Land Use Plan/Goals and Policies specify the following:
"3.5 Entertainment oriented businesses and cultural activities should be en.courage
in the core areas to create diversity. More night time business, on-going even
and sanctioned "street happenings" should be encouraged." I
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B. Vail Village Master Plan AdIlL
The Vail Village Master Plan does encourage the development of a variety of new
commercial activity where compatible with existing land uses, and specifies the
following policy to achieve this objective:
Activity that provides night life and evening entertainment for both the
guest and the community shall be encouraged."
In addition, a wide variety of activities, events, and street life along pedestrian ways
and plazas are encouraged, and states as a policy that:
Outdoor dining is an important streetscape feature and shall be
encouraged in commercial infill or redevelopment projects."
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Upon review of Section 18.60, the Community Development Department recommends
approval of the conditional use permit based upon the following factors:
Before acting on a conditional use application, the Planning and Environmental
Commission shall consider tWie fol4wit
Relationship and impact of the use on development objectives of
the Town.
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Staff feels that the proposed ranchyard operation will be a positive
entertainment addition to this part of the Vail Village if conducted per the
recommendations of approval. Staff wishes to emphasize that all patrons need
• be off the deck by 10:00 p.m. and that it is Mr. Garton's sole responsibility to
ensure this occurs.
2. The effect of the use on light and air, distribution of population,
transportation facilities, utilities, schools, parks and recreation
facilities, and other public needs.
4. Effect upon character of the area in which the proposed use is to
be located, including the scale and bulk of the proposed use in
relation to the surrounding uses.
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As previously discussed, staff feels that the proposed western-style ranchyard
would be a positive entertainment option for visitors and locals alike during the
summer and fall (June 1 - November 1). The staff also feels that the use would
be consistent with the character of the surrounding area, which has retail,
restaurant, and office uses, if the owner can control the music and crowd so
that adjacent property owners are not adversely effected.
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That the proposed location • the use is in accord with the purposes of
the conditional use permit section of the zoning code and the purposes
of the district in which the site is located.
2. That the proposed location of the use and the conditions under which it
would be operated or maintained would not be detrimental to the public
health, safety, or welfare or materially injurious to properties or
improvements in the vicinity.
That the proposed use would comply with each of the applicable
provisions of the conditional use permit section of the zoning code.
The staff feels that the request for a conditional use permit meets the criteria and findings
discussed in Sections V and VI of this memorandum. Therefore, staff is recommending
approval of the conditional use permit. If it is the desire of the PEC to approve the
conditional use permit, staff recommends the following conditions be imposed and met prior to
opening the deck:
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Handicapped access to Garton's Saloon shall be
ab ed b maintained o per o the Americo
Disility Act (ADA) at all times; to be reviewy the Twn f Vail B
ep uilding,
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Loading for Garton's Saloon shall be staged from the Crossroads loading area
only.
Valet parking shall be provided by Garton's as needed and per the attached
._arking plan.
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6. The applicant shall make the following improvements in the vicinity of the
o ; utdoor dining deck to improve the general appearance of the ranchyard
operation before the deck is allowed to open for business. An inspection of the
site by Randy Stouder, Town Planner, shall be required one week before the
deck opens for business.
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-The siding on the east side of Garton's Saloon shall be restained as the lower
portion of the siding is severely discolored and unsightly-
-The appearance of the handicapped lift shall be improved. A proposal shall be
submitted by the applicant to DRB.
-All outdoor storage of materials shall be eliminated. All items that are currently
outside in the area between the dining deck and the Frontage Road should be
removed. No outdoor storage shall be allowed.
7. The term of the conditional use permit shall be restricted to the period of June 1
through November 1, 1994.
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8. No banners, signs or flyers of any type shall be erected outdoors to advertise
the ranchyard operations, beyond the approved signs for Garton's. 0
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This letter is to summarize our desire to once-again have our dinner/cocktail
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operation during the off -season (June 1 - November 1) on our upper parking
lot deck here at Garton's Saloon.
Our neighbors had no problems with our Corral operation last year; and, in
fact, were quite happy with the increased traffic to the Crossroads Shopping
Center area.
We will not be doing any cooking outside due to restrictions in Vail Village.
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We will cordon off this new liquor licensed area with fencing and we will
police this deck with our security personnel to ensure that there are no liquor
violations.
There will be no impact of this conditional use on the development objectives
of the Town because there will be no development. All of the improvements
we make to this parking lot will be movable and temporary in nature.
Our plans for this parking lot will have no effect on the light and air,
distribution of population, transportation facilities, utilities, schools, parks and
recreation facilities, and other public facilities and public facilities' needs in
Vail.
Our plans will have no effect upon traffic, congestion, automotive and
pedestrian safety and convenience, traffic flow and control, access, and
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maneuverability. The character of the area surrounding us not be
permanently changed because no permanent structures are being erected.
HoNvever, there should be slightly beneficial change in the area due to our
creation of a rustic, rural ranch yard-type ambience to what otherwise would
R' a parking lot.
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Dave Garton
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Garton's ()alooji
143 E. Meadow Drive S14100
Vail, CO 81657
Re: Space N100, Crossroads East
This letter. wj .1c -i to your proposal to
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off; a pr�)r
of the upper northeast parking
blocky. utdoor barbeques associated with
foi. the purpose ol havinli 0 off the north portion of the
Garton I s Saloon. You may bloc]-,
4�1,�J,pjes 4-C-11 1j,,jjl(j spaces. This approval is
parking lot r
effective from 1111le 1., 1994 through October 31, 1994 for your
exclusive use. Singe yoll normally receive twelve free parking
permits, we will (lily be able to is normally
two free parking permits to
you for use during this time period.
As a ccn(.1j.ti(_,)i of this approval, you are required to extensively
arid temporarily (jc_,:c0j:ate Uifn entire space in an appropriate manner
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d to (. efi3je -1:1ie area with ropes, wooden stanchions, wooden
horses, split 3.ai.L fiencns and/or any other appropriate materials
approved in a(lvallce J)V )11y off-i-ce. yc)u must also relandscape the
dams- geci .1-awn areas <n(i j tc>etll to this parking lot this spring and
this fa)l., whei:e damaged by carton's use. You )!,lay use the space
for major outdoor cook-ollts and barbeques for large groups. The
outdoor barbeques may start as early as 4:00 P-111, and they may last
"as late as 9:()0 p.m. You may serve beer, wine and drinks in this
area as long as it is approved by the Town of Vail.
One final collditj_(),, of this approval is that Garton's Saloon will
be responsible for cle-Illij)q up all associated garbage such as beer
nap)_j.])s, pap,_r elates, glasses, etc. from the parking lot
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a. „.i all afliacell"I CoI11111(m 11*11.4.1; lilcluding the landscaped areas, the
parking and any other affected areas. if
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Garton's Saloon cities not 1,eep these areas clear' from. this type Of
garbage, the cost (,)�[ cleanup will be payable by Garton's Saloon
and/or this approval will be withdrawn.
You will be require(.) to provide proof of adequate insurance
coverage for the parki►iq lot and adjacent common areas in addition
to your insurance coverage for Space 14100, Crossroads East.
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me.
Sincerely,
Steve Stafford
managing Broker
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Tclepholle: (303) 476-10(,3 •e1cfax: (303) 476-2523
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TD. . RANDY STOUDER, TOV PEC STAFF
FR ®M. DAVE GARTON, GARTON'S SALOON
RE: GARTON'S OUTSIDE DECK
DATE. MAY 5, 1994
In response to our exchange of memos, the issues raised and answers given at
the PEC Work Session on April 25, and the May 3 Work Session of the Vail Town
Council, I hereby make the following requests and
commitments regarding
Garton's outside deck.
1. HOURS. OF OPERATION
We will turn off all outside speakers carrying amplified sound by
10 :00p.m. every night (excluding Fridays). The Vail Sound Ordinance
states that all external amplified sound will cease at 10 :00p.m., the
Council reiterated their support of this limit, and we
will cooperate with
this Ordinance. However, on Friday nights in the summer, we tend to
have such a large group of patrons on our outside deck that the people
noise can be very substantial and could continue on past 10 :00p.m.. For
this reason, we will
stop our outside amplified sound at 9:45p,m. on
Friday nights.
.Likewise, our restaurant will be open until 10:00p. m'. (excluding
Fridays) and we will serve food and drinks to patrons that are seated by
that time like
just every other restaurant in Vail. However, on Fridays,
we will stop serving food at 9.30p.m. and stop serving alcohol at 9.45p,m..
We have never experienced any problem with noise or crowds on any
evening
except for Friday and these new guidelines should alleviate any
problems.
2. LOADING
We will no longer use the temporary g p ary driveway on the northeast corner
of our outside parking deck.
3. AMPLIFIED SOUND
We have a detailed and professionally-planned design for our outside
sound system. We will test this system, with
and without patrons on the
P.O. Box 1057 143 E. Meadow Drive Vail, Colorado 81658 (303) 479 . 7 FAX (303) 476 -7455
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The two(2) speaker elements that were mounted on the wall to the right of the entrance to
Uarton's Saloon and aimed iajQjhLYI towards the main parking structure across the
street from the Crossroads Shopping Center are proprietary boxes built by Dowlen Sound
of Denver, Colorado with a jlpidimg_ ? =L .frontal dispersion angle of thirty(30) degrees
on-axis in'the horizontal plane and a frontal dispersion angle of approximately 1lfteen(15)
degrees tin -axis in the vertical plane, both above five hundred Hertz(500 Hz). Each box
contains a one inch(V) hom-loaded high frequency transducer and a M,,r-lvc inch(12")
front-loaded low frequency transducer with a passive cross-over device that apportions
signals to each transducer with a cross-over point of approximately two thousand
Hertz(100OHz); all components built by McCauley Professional, USA. As these boxes
were designed and constructed for use as stage monitoring elements for use on the live
sound stage, this dispersion angle is tight and highly directional in order to prevent
"bleed" into the other microphone elements which are placed on the stage with these
monitors. As an aside, it would be virtually impossible to have any form of "live sound"
at all with the use of orrini-directional speaker elements due to the fact that no appreciable
gain could be achieved at the microphone stage befom "feedback"; for this reason,
professional sound reinforcement speaker elements are designed with a high degree of
directionality and pattern-angle control. As a result the speaker elements currently being
discussed have an off-axis sound level "bleed" of less than twenty pe.rcent(20%).
As for the two(2) speaker elements that were mounted on the light posts in each comer of
the deck facing Garton's Saloon proper, these belonged to the disc jockey responsible for
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playing the pre-i-euorded rnusiv that was ht;ad on Lho do uk last summer. These eJem,,-nt,,,
are a simple non-proprietary box design built by Ross Systems Incorporated, USA for
the non-professional amplification of disc jockey music. Each box contains a one
inch(l") hom-loaded high frequency transducer and a fiftmnj inuh(15") ffvnt-loaded low
frequency transducer with a passive cross-over device that apportions signals to each
transducer with a cross-over point of approximately one thousand Hertz(1000 Hz); all
components were built by a generic, foreign manufautui_r. Each spcaikur eltiaeat has a
unidirectional frontal dispersion angle'oflfifty(50) degrees on-axis in the horizontal plane
and approximately thirty five(35) degrees on-axis in the vertical plane, both above five
hundred Hertz(500 Hz), although in this case each element has an off-axis %vund lcvcl
"bleed" of greater than forty percent(40%). Although I believe that the primary noise
problem which the aforementioned complaints were referring to was ambient crowd noise
both on and off the premises, I will allow that some may have been in part due to the
poor directional control of this second set of speaker elements which were never designed
for professional sound reinforcement in the first place.
It was brought to'my attention upon request of this letter thafthe town of Vail is
questioning my reputability as a live sound enaincer and acoustic consultant in the field
of live sound reinforcement. In response, I wo'u-'ld like to assuage any questions by giNing
a brief list of my credentials. I bave been working professionally in the live sound and
music production industry for four(4) years now. Before moving to Vail, Colorado last
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Todd D. Howe
THD Producdons
3120 Bellflower Dr. #1
Vail, Co. 81657-4116
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Garton's Saloon
Request for Condonal Use Permit - Outdoor Dining Deck
This memo is provided as an informational update regarding last summer's usage of an outdoor dining
deck or ranchyard that was permitted at Garton's Saloon.
On July 26, 1993, Dave Garton appeared before the PEC, requesting Garton's outdoor deck or ranchyard
be allowed to remain in place, and that he not be required to remove everything from the parking area
each day, as the parking requirements were being met. The PEC determined that Mr. Garton's
modifications to the parking plan did not have negative impacts and were acceptable. Attached are
meeting minutes from the July 26, 1993 PEC meeting.
Complaints Received:
During the time the conditional use permit was in effect (June 1 - November 1) and the ranchyard was in
operation, several complaints were received by the Vail Police Department as follows:
1) 08/28/93 Noise Complaint - Vail PD responded to Garton's after receiving several phone
complaints.
Meter reading indicated 80 - 100 decibels, in violation of Town Ordinance (65 decibel maximum),
no citation was issued.
2) 09/17/93 Noise Complaint - Vail PD responded to Garton's, reacting to complaint from a
neighboring business. um), no
Meter reading indicated 80 decibels, in violation of Town Ordinance (65 decibel maxim
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citation was issued.
3) 09/21/93 Noise Complaint - Vail PD responded to Garton's after receiving an anonymous
complaint.
Meter reading indicated 55 decibels, within the Town of Vail guidelines.
4) 09/24/93 Noise Complaint - pursuant to a request from Sgt. Onorato a sound meter reading
was taken outside Garton's.
Meter reading indicated 72 - 75 decibels, in violation of Town Ordinance (65 decibel maximum),
no citation was issued.
5) 09/29/93 Noise Complaint - Vail PD responded to Garton's after receiving an anonymous
complaint.
Meter reading indicated 68 decibels, in violation of Town Ordinance (65 decibel maximum), no
citation was issued.
6) 10/01/93 Noise Complaint - Vail PD responded to a resident neighbor's complaint re: noisy
subjects creating a disturbance outside Garton's. Upon arrival, subjects had left the scene.
No citation was issued.
9) 10/03/94 Letter to Mayor, Liquor Board, PEC, Vail Police Chief, and DRB - Formal Complaint
from a resident/neighbor re: Noise @ Garton's. Letter was answered by Town Clerk.
10) 09/03/93 Protective Custody - individual taken into protective custody after having been asked
to leave Garton's several times.
11) 09/06/93 Protective Custody - individual taken into protective custody after having an
argument with another person in a vehicle at 141 E. Meadow Dr.
Mr. Garton has filed an application for a conditional use permit so that he may reopen the outdoor dining
deck this summer, and will appear at a PEC meeting on Monday, April 25, 1994.
Should Garton's receive PEC approval, and be successful in obtaining a conditional use permit, Mr. Garton
will then appear at a DRB meeting on Wednesday, May 4, 1994.
Upon approvals being granted by the PEC and the DRB, Mr. Garton will appear before the Local Licensing
Authority on Wednesday, June 8, 1994 to request a modification of the Garton's liquor licensed pren-dse.
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In an effort to reduce noise in the Village Core, which stemmed from an unrelated incident, the Town
Council has requested that the Town Attorney draft an ordinance amending the current amplified sound
regulations, eliminating the piping of canned and/or live music to outdoor decks and other external areas,
unless the entertainers are performing outdoors live.
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for the CCI I zone district to remove the requirement that television stations be visible from
the street or pedestrian way, or whether they should reconfigure the design of the first
floor of the Sunbird Lodge to allow for the retail expansion proposed.
Kathy Langenwalter inquired whether the PEC had discussed this issue concerning TV-8
previously.
Dalton Tfilliams stated thatTail Associ-atee-s-had not clone an
to do with the previous TV-8 request. He stated that curtains or blinds'were being used
• control lighting.
and that lighting can be controlled through the u of tinted glass.
Diana Donovan stated that she was against amending the definition of Commercial Uses
in the CCII zone district as it pertains to television stations. Diana stated that she wanted
• see the relief and shadow line maintained.
Kathy Langenwalter stated that this proposal would still meet their criteria if viewing can
occur from the south part of the building.
Tim Devlin stated that there are three other items that the applicant is proposing in
conjunction with this request for a major exterior alteration (see Page 1, items I through
3, of the staff memo).
angenitaiiersiaieatiictLL,iibi;asareq,
the PEC had a responsibility to address design issues.
Tim Devlin stated this proposal would provide for a net increase of 230 square feet of
retail area and would require .76 parking spaces.
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Applicant: Dave Garton
Planner: Tim Devlin
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Planning and Environments! Commission
July 26, 1993
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Dalton Williams stated that he was concerned that what the PEC had approved was not
being followed with regard to parking.
Applicant: MECM Enterprises represented by Eustaquio Cortina and
Commercial Federal Savings.
Planner Shelly Mello TABLED TO AUGUST 9,1993
Diana Donovan made a motion to. table this request for a minor amendment to SDD #4,
Cascade Village, until August 9, 19• 3 with Dalton Williams seconding the motion. A43i
vote tabled this request until August • 1993.
13. A request for the establishment of an SDD to allow the redevelopment of the Cornice
Building and a request for a conditional use permit to allow the construction of three Type
IV employee housing units, located at 362 Vail Valley Drive and more specifically
described as follows:
A part of Tract "B" and a part of Mill Creek Road, Vail Village, First Filing, County of Eagle, State of Colorado,
more particularly described as follows:
Commencing at the Northeast comer of Vail Village, First Filing; thence North 79046'00" West along the
Southerly line of U.S. Highway No. 6 a distance of 367.06 feet to the Northeast comer of said Tract "B";
Planning and Environmental Commission
July 26, 1993
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Planning and Environmental Commission
FROM: I Community Development Department
DATE: July 26, 1993
SUBJECT: An update on the conditional use permit for an outdoor dining deck located at
Garton's Saloon, Lot P, Block.5-D, Vail Village 1st Filing/143 Village Center
Road.
Applicant: Dave Garton
Planner. Tim Devlin
The purpose of this update is to allow the applicant to inform the Planning and Environmental
Commission (PEC) how the outdoor dining deck/"ranch yard" at Garton's Saloon has been
working out this summer.
On April 26, 1993, the applicant was approved for a conditional use permit to operate the
outdoor dining deck. At this meeting, the parking variance being requested was withdrawn
because the PEC was satisfied that the parking requirement could be met by the provision of
valet parking spaces. The motion that was made to approve this request for a conditional use
permit was conditioned that ten parking spaces on the upper level were to remain open during
the hours of 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. with an additional two valet spaces, and that the tables
and chairs to be used in conjunction with this project be stored elsewhere; also, an additional
condition was that valet parking be available after 4:00 p.m. for the twelve additional parking
spaces (if necessary) and that no parking variance be required per the staff memo as parking
will be provided on-site through use • valet spaces.
Please see the attached meeting minutes from the April 26, 1993 PEC meeting.
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Applicant: Charlie Alexander
Planner: Jim Curnutte
Applicant: Dave Garton
Planner: Tim Devlin
Planning and Environmental Commission
April 26, 1993
Tim Devlin made a presentation per the staff memo summarizing the applicant's
request. He said that the applicant was willing to valet park in order to meet the on-
site parking requirement, therefore negating the need for a parking variance. He
stated that staff was recommending approval of this request for a conditional use
permit with four conditions which are addressed in the staff memo.
Diana Donovan stated that she was concerned that granting a parking variance would
set a precedent. She then inquired how clean the smoker was and stated that the
smoker at City Market in Avon was quite,"messy".
Shirkie Evans, stated that the smoker that they would be using was mainly for effect.
He also said that the City Market smoker uses hickory and that they would be using
mesquite, which produces less smoke.
Diana Donovan asked the PEC board how they felt about the parking.
Tim Devlin replied that twelve parking spaces were being removed and replaced by
valet parking spaces for this proposal.
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and that he would make arrangements' to provide the additional two parking spaces
necessary through valet parking.
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Dave Garton suggested that the conditional use permit be issued on a yearly basis
and subject for renewal each spring so that the situation could be evaluated.
Greg Amsden inquired of the applicant whether parking could be gated off for a
specific use.
Nave Garton responded that this was possible with the landlord's permission.
Dalton Williams inquired whether it was the PECs responsibilit I y to address the
allocation of parking spaces and that it was his understanding that all mixed uses are
figured into the parking requirements. He stated that he felt this situation could set a
dangerous precedent.
Jeff Bowen inquired whether Crossroads designated each business a specific number
of parking spaces.
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Dave Garton stated that the parking spaces were primarily used by the employees,
and that most bar patrons that needed parking used the Vail Transportation Center.
Jeff Bowen stated that the parking structure was not full most of the summer except for
the 4th of July and the bike races. He wondered whether it would be possible for
employees to park elsewhere during these times.
Dave Garton stated that he would be sensitive to the parking situation at such times
and explained that the whole idea of this project was predicated on the summer off -
season.
Bill Anderson stated that this parking situation would be difficult to enforce..
Diana Donovan stated that the they needed to determine what the total parking
requirement was for Crossroads so that the PEC could be sure that they were making
consistent decisions.
Kathy Langenwalter inquired how informed fellow tenants at Crossroads were of this
proposal.
Dave Garton stated that most tenants have responded enthusiastically.
Bill Anderson stated that this request was for a conditional use permit and that the
applicant was requesting the permit for a year and that it could be reevaluated at such
time.
Kristan Pritz stated that Club Majik's was given the option to valet park when they were
at Crossroads but they never used it.
Diana Donovan stated that if valet parking is used, that it should be available twenty-
four hours per day.
Dalton Williams stated that he wondered what would happen if the Christiania wanted
to pursue a similar request.
Kristan Pritz stated that the circumstances surrounding this proposal are different given
Garton's proximity to the parking structure.. She also said that it was staff's feeling that
distinctions could be made between the two situations (Garton's and the Christiania).
Planning and Environmental Commission
April 26, 1993 4
Bill Anderson stated that he disagrees that by granting this request that the PEC would
be setting a precedent because a precedent situation to him means a situation with
identical circumstances. He thinks this is a positive request that makes better use of
the space at Crossroads and that it is better to allow an operation like this as opposed
• letting the space just sit there unused.
Jeff Bowen stated that they were looking at a time of the year when parking was
generally not a problem. He also said that since they were only looking at granting th
request for a year (June 1 - November 1) that they, were not creating a hardship on
#ther parties.
Greg Amsden asked the applicant whether there would be live music outside,
Dave Garton responded that live music would be inside the establishment and would
not start until 9:00 - 9:30 p.m.
* , Greg Amsden stated that the PEC board needed confidence that valet parking woul*
e used.
Dave Garton responded that twenty-four hour valet parking was not feasible but that he
would be willing to offer valet parking after 5:00 p.m.
Greg Amsden inquired whether the applicant had considered to have the proposed
operation going during lunch hours.
Shirkie stated that it would not be cost effective to do so.
Greg Amsden stated that he had no objection to approving this request for a
conditional use permit,
Kathy Langenwalter stated that she had no objection to the conditional use permit but
parking was a concern to her. She said that valet parking would be a workable
solution for the loss of parking spaces during evening hours but wondered whether the
storage of equipment would effect, the availability of parking spaces.
Allison Lassoe suggested that the applicant be willing to begin valet parking at an
a-arlier time during busy times such as the 4th of July.
Dalton Williams stated that he would like to be convinced that this proposal will work
but it is his feeling that it will still take parking spaces away that are actually used.
Dave Garton reiterated out that most of the parking spaces are for Garton's
employees.
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Kathy Langenwalter pointed out that this was a multi-use situation-
liana Donovan stated that the situations do vary but that the underlying concept does
not. She said that if they make an exception to the way they vote on this proposal that
it will make it more difficult to say "no" next time.
Kristan Pritz stated that continuity in decisions is important but that the individual
circumstances of each situation deserved to be looked at as well.
Jeff Bowen stated that the first issue that the PEC is concerned with is the project and
that the second issue is to devise a parking stipulation that will allow the applicant to
move forward.
Diana Donovan stated that the PEC needed to keep in mind whether this request
would be positive for the Town.
Kristan Pritz inquired of Diana whether valet parking for two of the parking spaces
during the day would be an acceptable solution to this situation.
Dave Garton stated that it was not the most appealing solution but that he-would be
willing to do this.
Diana Donovan stated that it was either valet parking or looking at the original
requirement for Crossroads.
Kathy Langenwalter made a motion to approve this request for a conditional use permit
per the staff memo for the 1993 season (June 1 through November 1) with the
condition that ten parking spaces on the upper level remain open during the hours of
8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. with an additional two valet spaces, that the tables and chairs to
be used in conjunction with this project be stored elsewhere, that valet parking be
available after 4:00 p.m. for twelve additional parking spaces (if necessary) and that no
parking variance be required per the staff memo as parking will be provided on-site
and that the other conditions in the staff memo be included in the motion. Greg
Amsden seconded Kathy's motion and a 7-0 vote approved this request.
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To: Lt. Jeff Layman
From: Sgt. Tom Sheely
Date: 04/27/94
Re: Garton's Saloon noise complaints
In our examination of noise complaints against Garton's Saloon,
dated from 06/11/93 to 04/27/94, we found 11 cases documented •
police report and six undocumented cases. The police reports are
listed in the letter from Tom Moorhead to Rick Richards. The other
six cases were retrieved from Vail P i epartment's dispatch
computer and are listed below.
06/11/93, 1944, noise complaint; Vail P.D. responded to Garton's
after Dispatch received an anonymous complaint.
07/18/93, 2200, noise complaint; Vail P.D. received a phone call
from someone stating Garton's was too loud.
08/05/93, 2325, noise complaint; Vail P.D. responded to Garton's A91h
after receiving a complaint over the phone. The responding officer
asked Garton's to close their windows.
09/01/93, 2309, noise complaint; Vail P.D. received anonymous phone
call about the noise from Garton's.
09/03/93, 2105, noise complaint; Vail P.D. responded to Garton's in
reference to a noise complaint. Responding officers advised the
manager to turn the music down.
10/10/93, 2358, noise complaint; Vail P.D. dispatch received a
phone call about the speakers outside Garton's. The reporting
person asked that the speakers be turned off.
When officers responded to each of the undocumented incidents, the
managers at Garton's were cooperative and complied with the
officers' request to lower the sound levels. However, it should be
noted that of the six cases listed above, three of them are after
11:00 P.M.
cc: Randy Stouder
Tom Moorhead Am&
Rick Richards qP
Ken Hughey
Below you will find a breakdown of 14 noise complaints received by the Vail Police Department
about Garton's Saloon between 06/11/93 and 10/03/93:
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Time
06/11/93
Friday
7:44
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07/18/93
Sunday
10:00
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08/05/93
Thursday
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08/28/93
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09/01/93
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09/03/93
Friday
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09/21/93
Tuesday
10:45
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09/24/93
Friday
7:55
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Wednesday
11:16
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10/01/93
Friday
2;01
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10/01/93
Friday
11:59
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10/02/93
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Sunday
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noise from bar
noise from bar
noise from bar
noise from bar
noise from bar
noise from bar
noise from bar
noise from bar
noise from bar
noise from bar
disturbance in street
noise from bar
yelling in the street
noise from exterior
speakers
(if available)
N/A
N/A
N/A
80-100
N/A
N/A
80
55
72-85
68
N/A
45-50
N/A
N/A
Note that the calls on 10/01/93 and 10/02/93 were in the early morning hours of the day listed.
Seven of the 14 calls occurred after 11:00 pm. of those, five involved noise or music coming from
the bar.
If you desire further information, please don't hesitate to call.
cc: Ken Hughey
Tom Moorhead
Rick Richards
Tom Sheely
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Reference: 1) Item #8 of Agenda for the Public Hearing scheduled for 5/9/94;
Specifically: The request for a conditional use permit for
Garton's Saloon.
2) Memo from Holly McCutcheon, dated 4/19/94; Subj: Garton's Saloon
As owners of Unit #13 in the Village Center Building "D", and as President of the
Village Core Condominium Association (these properties are located at 122 E.
Meadow Drive), we specifically object to the issuance of the referenced Use Permit.
Thank you for your consideration • these requests and the associated matters.
9 Sincerely,
Ann Louthan, President of the Association
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•i• ''f wall height in the front setback:
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Upon review of Criteria and Findings, Section 18.62.060 of the Vail Municipal Code, the
Community Development Department recommends approval of the requested slope variances
and approval of the requested wall height variances based on the following factors:
The relationship of the requested variance to other existing or
potential uses and structures in the vicinity.
2. The degree to which relief from the strict and literal interpretation
and enforcement • a specified regulation is necessary to achieve
compatibility and uniformity of treatment among sites in the vicinity
or to attain the objectives • this title without grant of special
privilege.
One of the positive aspects of the design under construction is that the
driveway serves two different properties. As the Sheridan site is located uphill,
behind the Szpiech residence, the access to the Sheridan property would have
required slope variances in all likelihood. By working together, the two owners
have been able to provide one driveway with a lesser slope than what the
Sheridan drive would have required. The vicinity map on the attached page
shows the property line locations between the Sheridan and Szpiech
residences. Lot 10, the Sheridan property, has a narrow "flag pole" which
provides frontage on Garmisch Drive. It a driveway were located within his
property lines, the slope would be steeper than what is proposed with the
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A request for a variance from Section 17.28.330 for a private driveway slope of 14.5%
and a shared driveway of 10% slope; and a variance to allow for walls greater than 3
feet in height to be located in the front setback; for the Szpiech, Sheridan, and Wirth
properties located at 2445 Garmisch Drive, 2457 Garmisch Drive and 2447 Garmisch
Drive /Lots • 10, and 11, Block H, Vail d• s Schone 2nd Filing.
Andy Knudtsen stated that the 4 foot width could be varied somewhat but that the
proposed landscaping could not be reduced.
Bill Anderson inquired what type of monitoring system the applicant was proposing to
use.
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Andy Knudtsen stated that the 14.5% was based on a 20 foot turning radiul
Bill Anderson stated that it appeared to him that if the house was in its correct position
that the site disturbance would actually be worse than what has occurred with the
house's current location. For this reason, he said that he did not have a problem with
the requested variances.
Kathy Lan•enwalter stated that Duke should meet with Andy and Greg Hall on this
issue. She stated that she was in favor • the requested slope and wall height
variances.
Bob Armour made a motion to approve the requested wall height and slope variancEs
per the staff memo including the four conditions on Page 5 of the staff memo with
Dalton Williams seconding the motion. t•0 vote approved this request. I
5. A PEC update on revisions to previously approved setback and site coverage
variances, located at 2409 Chamonix Lane/Lot 19, Block A, Vail Das Schone 1st Filing.
Applicant: Anneliese Taylor
Planner: Mike Mollica
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SUBJECT: A request for a wall height variance to allow for a single family residence to bd
constructed at 2840 Basingdale/Lot 4, Block 9, Intermountain Subdivision.
Applicant: Dan Freclericil
Planner: Andy KnudtsE2
The applicant is proposing two separate structures and went to the Design Review Board
(DRB) for a separation request. On April 20, 1994, the DRB reviewed the separation request
and approved it. The applicant is proposing to plant nine aspen between the garage and the
house. In addition, the applicant will transplant one spruce that is currently located within the
footprint of the garage.
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Lot Size: .64 acre or 28,039 sq. ft.
Zoning: Primary/Secondary Residential
Height: 33' 32.5'
GRFA: 6,753.9 sq. ft. 1,071 sq. ft.
Setbacks:
Front: 20' 4' for garage, 20' for home
Side: 15, 62'
Side: 15, 35'
Rear: 15, 65'
Site Coverage: 4,205 sq. ft. (15%) 815 sq. ft. (3%)
Landscaping: 10,823.4 (60%) 27,044 sq, ft. (96.4%)
Parking: 2 spaces 2 spaces
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Upon review of Criteria and Findings, Section 18.62.060 of the Vail Municipal Code, the
Community Development Department recommends approval of the requested variance based
• the following factors:
A. Consideration • Factors:
2. The degree to which relief from the strict and literal interpretation
and enforcement of a specified regulation is necessary to achieve
compatibility and uniformity of treatment among sites in the vicinity
• to attain the objectives • this title without grant • special
privilege.
3. The effect • the requested variance on light and air, distribution
populat on and ion, transportati traffic facilities, public facilities an
utilities, and public safety. I
The Town Engineer has reviewed the request and will require that the applicant
provide 19 feet between the edge of pavement and the garage door for guest
parking. Since the applicant has addressed this concern, staff believes that
there will be no negative impacts from the proposal on the above- referenced
criteria.
B. The Planning and Environmental Commission shall make the following findings
before arantinq a variance:
1. That the granting of the variance will not constitute a grant of special
privilege inconsistent with the limitations on other properties classified in
the same district.
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health, safety or welfare, or materially injurious to properties or
improvements in the vicinity.
3. That the variance is warranted for one or more of the following reasons:
C. The strict interpretation or enforcement of the specified regulation
would deprive the applicant of privileges enjoyed by the owners
• other properties in the same district.
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The boulder walls and foundation of the garage and house must be designed
by a registered professional engineer.
2. The face of garage shall be located a minimum of 19 feet from the edge of
asphalt to provide an adequate guest parking space outside the travel lanes of
Basingdale Boulevard.
3. The utility service line for the garage and house shall be buried undergrounil
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TO: Planning and Environmental Commission
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SUBJECT: A request for a minor SDD amendment to allow for a modification to the po
cochere at the Westin Resort located at 1300 Westhaven Drive/further
described below: I
CASCADE LODGE JOINT VENTURE
(Westin Hotel)
That part of the SW 1/4 NE 1/4, Section 12, Township 5 South, Range 81 West of life Sixth Principal Mardian, Tom of Vail, Eagle County, Colorado, descrilood as follows:
Beginning at a point on the southerly boundary of the pamd of land sham on the Condominium Map for the Colorado Mountain Condominiums recorded in
Book 367 at Page 620 in the office of the Eagle County, Colorado, Clark and Recorder, whence the most southerly comer of said parcel beans S 52'50'29' W
14.16 feel dislani. thence the following nine courses along the wWh&iy boundary of said parcel: (1) N 52'5029' E 49.16 loot; (2) N 3711245 W 12,34 icol: (3)
N 52'4715 E 1.00 feet (4) N 37'12'45'W 1.30 loot; (5) N 52'47'15' 42.60 feel; (6) N 37*12'45* W 8.70 feet; M N 52"4715- E 15,00 loot; (8) S 37'12'45' E
22.40 feet: (9) N 52150'29° E 35.28 lost; thence departing said southerly boundary N 52150'29' feel: thence S 37'09"31' E 45.34 feet thence N 52'50'29' E
48.70 feel; thence S 37°0931' E 9.60 feet; thence N 52'50'20' E 80,00 feel; theme S 37°0931' E 220.02 feet to Gore Crook; thence the following four
courses along Gore Crack: (1) S 492939' W 76.45 loot; (2) S 22'3136* W 124.47 fact; (3) S 53'37'36" W 119.34 feel; (4) S 65131'36'W 14.58 feet: thence N
3710931* W 116.45 lool to the point of beginning containing 110,200 square foot or 2.49 acres, more a low
Applicant: Chris Hansen, representing the Westin Vail Resort
Planner: George Ruther
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A new lighting plan is also proposed with this request. The lighting plan includes four surface
sconces on the two outer columns • the entry feature and a circular chandelier placed on the
under roof of the entryway. The detailed specifications for lighting are to be determined and
is will be submitted for approval and will be in compliance with Ordinance No. 9, Series of 1993.
PLAZA SUITE
Thai part of the SW 1/4 HE 1/4, Section 12, Township 5 South, Range 81 West of the Sixth Principal Meridian, Tom of Vail, Colorado, described as follows:
Beginning at the most northerly comer of Condominium Map of Colorado Mountain Condominiums according 10 the map thorool recorded in Book 387 at Page
620 in the Mice of Eagle County, Colorado, Clark and Recorder, whence an iron pin with plastic W marking the comer of said Section 12 boors S 34'50*58°
W 964.37 feel; thence N 66,48'44* E 106.67 feet, thence 79.97 feel Wong the we of a curve to the left having a rafts of 1121.72 loot; a central angle of
04'0504* , and a ohord that bears N 54'46'13' a 79.95 feet; thence N 52'43'41' E 28.82 lost; theme S 37109'31' E 1 05.76 teal; thence S 52'5(Y2V W 25.00
1-1; thence S 37,09,31" W 25.00 lost: thence S 52,50'29* E 80.00 feel; thence S 5250*29'W 15.00 1-1: thence S 37'09'31' E 16.78 foot, thence S 52°5029'
W 21.30 feet; then. S 37'0931* E 9.60 feel; thence S 52-5029' W 80.00 loot: thence N 37-0931' W 9.60 feet; thence S 52°5()`29'W 48.70 loot; them. N
37'09131* IN 45.34 foot; thence S 52150'29'W 56.96 feel to the northeasterly Ine of said Condondrium Map of Colorado Mountain Condominiums; theme the
following Ithroo courses along said northoaslorty fine: (1) N 37109131* W 55.00 foot; (Z N 07150'29' E 45.00 feel; (3) N 3710931' W 80.40 1-1 to the point of
beginning, comaining 1.000 acres, more or to".
Applicant: Chris Hansen, representing the Westin Vail Resort
Planner: George Ruther
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A new lighting plan is also proposed with this request. The lighting plan includes four surface
sconces on the two outer columns • the entry feature and a circular chandelier placed on the
under roof of the entryway. The detailed specifications for lighting are to be determined and
is will be submitted for approval and will be in compliance with Ordinance No. 9, Series of 1993.
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Section 18,40.100 (Amendment Procedures) of the Municipal Code stipulates the following for
minor amendments to Special Development Districts:
"Minor Amendments: Minor modifications consistent with the design criteria outlined in
Section 18.40.020B may be approved by the Department of Community Development.
All minor modifications shall be indicated on a completely revised development plan.
Approved changes shall be noted, signed, dated and filed by the Department of
Community Development."
In addition, the Municipal Code also stipulates that the Community Development staff shall
inform the Planning and Environmental Commission (PEC) • the staff action on the reque
for a minor SDD amendment. I
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Date: May 2, 1994
Re: "April 261,1994 - SUGGESTED POINTS FOR PRIVATE-PUBLIC AGREEMENT FOR
VAIL COMMONS LAND" by Mery Lapin.
1. Town of Vail +ill always own the land.
I Agree.
2. The land will not be subordinated during construction.
3. TO V will not finance a construction loan but may provide permanent financing either
directly or, rom the Vail Housing Authority depending on the interest rate and term.
I Agree.
4. lVeither TOO nor Vail Housing Authority will manage the completed project.
I Strongly Disagree:
I served on the Employee Housing Task Force which was the recommending body for the
establishment of the Vail Housing Authority. Our group worked with the TOV consultants
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in studying the need for Affordable Housing and researching the best method of
establishing Affordable Housing in Vail.
The Vail Housing Authority should own and actively manage any and all housing that is
created as part of this project.
The Vail Housing Authority should establish policies which require any residents to be
employed by a business operating in the TOV.
The Vail Housinc, Authority should establish policies which require residents to be year
round residents of the TOV.
The Vail Housing Authority should establish income levels for which preference will be
given in leasing Affordable Housing Units and study the possibility of rental subsidies for
lower income workers who are permanent residents of the TOV where appropriate.
5. All housing units will bepermanently restricted with enforcement oJ'these restrictions for
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the exclusive use of long-term employees. All residents must be registered voters in the
TOO if legal to require.
I Agree. See ##4 above.
6. The project may be a mixture of commercial, municipal services, and residential. -ATo
variances will be given for additional density over what is allowed on the property= at the
time ofsale.
Mixed Use: I Agree.
No Variances for density: This should be reviewed and determined byte P.E.C.
7. No additional personnel will he added to the Pail Housing Authority of the To V due to this
project
I Disagree: See #4 above.
The Vail Housing Authority should actively manage any and all housing and a small staff
should be allowed to accomplish this.