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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-1022 PEC਍ഀ PLANNINGANDENVIRONMENTALCOMMISSION ਍ഀ October22,2007 ਍ഀ 1:00pm ਍ഀ TOWNCOUNCILCHAMBERS/PUBLICWELCOME ਍ഀ 75S.FrontageRoad-Vail,Colorado,81657 ਍ഀ 12:00TrainingSessionwithPublicWorks(lunchwillbeprovided)TomKassmel/GregHall ਍ഀ MEMBERSPRESENTMEMBERSABSENT ਍ഀ SiteVisits: ਍ഀ 1.HilbResidence–2755SnowberryDrive ਍ഀ 2.TownofVailMunicipalBuilding–953and1031S.FrontageRoad ਍ഀ Driver: ਍ഀ Bill ਍ഀ Pleasenote:Timesofitemsareapproximateandsubjecttochange. ਍ഀ 15minutes ਍ഀ 1.ArequestforafinalrecommendationtotheVailTownCouncilforazonedistrictboundary ਍ഀ amendment,pursuantto12-3-7,Amendments,VailTownCode,toallowforarezoningfrom ਍ഀ ArterialBusinessDistricttoLionsheadMixedUse2,locatedat953and1031SouthFrontage ਍ഀ Road(acompletelegaldescriptionisavailableforinspectionattheTownofVailCommunity ਍ഀ DevelopmentDepartment),andsettingforthDetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07-0021) ਍ഀ Applicant:VailResortsDevelopmentCompany,representedbyThomasMiller ਍ഀ Planner:WarrenCampbell ਍ഀ ACTION: ਍ഀ MOTION:SECOND:VOTE: ਍ഀ 60minutes ਍ഀ 2.Arequestforfinalreviewofamajorexterioralteration,pursuanttoSection12-7H-7,Major ਍ഀ ExteriorAlterationsorModifications,VailTownCode,toallowfortheredevelopmentofthe ਍ഀ LionsheadInnandLionsheadInnAnnex(Fogata),andarequestforfinalreviewofconditional ਍ഀ usepermits,pursuanttoSection12-7H-3,PermittedandConditionalUses,FirstFloororStreet ਍ഀ Level,VailTownCode,toallowforattachedaccommodationunits,lodgedwellingunits,and ਍ഀ multiple-familyresidentialunitsonthefirstfloor,andpursuanttoSection12-7H-5,Conditional ਍ഀ Uses:Generally(OnAllLevelsOfABuildingOrOutsideOfABuilding),VailTownCode,toallow ਍ഀ forthedevelopmentofaprivateparkinglot,locatedat701and705WestLionsheadCircle/part ਍ഀ ofLot1,Block2,VailLionsheadFiling3,andsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07- ਍ഀ 0027,PEC07-0028) ਍ഀ Applicant:LionsheadInnLLC,representedbyMaurielloPlanningGroupLLC ਍ഀ Planner:WarrenCampbell ਍ഀ ACTION: ਍ഀ MOTION:SECOND:VOTE: ਍ഀ Page1 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ 15minutes ਍ഀ 3.Arequestforafinalreviewofamajorexterioralteration,pursuanttoSection12-7H-7,Major ਍ഀ ExteriorAlterationsorModifications,VailTownCode,toallowfortheconstructionofadwelling ਍ഀ unitattheLionsheadInn,locatedat705WestLionsheadCircle/PartofLot1,Block2,Vail ਍ഀ LionsheadFiling3,andsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07-0061) ਍ഀ Applicant:LionsheadInn,LLC,representedbyMaurielloPlanningGroup,LLC ਍ഀ Planner:BillGibson ਍ഀ ACTION: ਍ഀ MOTION:SECOND:VOTE: ਍ഀ 15minutes ਍ഀ 4.Arequestforafinalreviewofavariance,fromSection14-3-1,MinimumStandards,pursuantto ਍ഀ Chapter12-17,Variances,VailTownCode,toallowfordeviationsfromminimumdeflection ਍ഀ anglefordrivewayaccess,locatedat2755SnowberryDrive/Lot10,Block9,VailIntermountain ਍ഀ Subdivision,andsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07-0062) ਍ഀ Applicant:DaveHilb,representedbyJohnG.Martin,Architect ਍ഀ Planner:BillGibson ਍ഀ ACTION: ਍ഀ MOTION:SECOND:VOTE: ਍ഀ 15minutes ਍ഀ 5.Arequestforafinalreviewofaconditionalusepermit,pursuanttoSection12-9C-3,Conditional ਍ഀ Uses,VailTownCode,toallowformodificationstoapublicbuilding(emergencypower ਍ഀ generator),locatedat75SouthFrontageRoadWest(TownofVailAdministration ਍ഀ Building)/Unplatted,andsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07-0063) ਍ഀ Applicant:TownofVail ਍ഀ Planner:NicolePeterson ਍ഀ ACTION: ਍ഀ MOTION:SECOND:VOTE: ਍ഀ 20minutes ਍ഀ 6.ArequestforafinalrecommendationtotheVailTownCouncil,pursuanttoSection12-3-7, ਍ഀ Amendment,VailTownCode,forprescribedregulationamendmentstoTitle12,VailTown ਍ഀ Code,torequirepublicartforcertaindevelopmentandredevelopmentprojectsinLionshead ਍ഀ MixedUse1,LionsheadMixedUse2,PublicAccommodations,PublicAccommodations2, ਍ഀ CommercialCore1,CommercialCore2,CommercialCore3,SkiBaseRecreation,SkiBase ਍ഀ Recreation2andSpecialDevelopmentDistricts,andsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto. ਍ഀ (PEC07-0033) ਍ഀ Applicant:TownofVail ਍ഀ Planner:RachelFriede ਍ഀ ACTION: ਍ഀ MOTION:SECOND:VOTE: ਍ഀ 20minutes ਍ഀ 7.ArequestforafinalreviewofavariancefromSection12-6D-6,Setbacks,VailTownCode, ਍ഀ pursuanttoChapter12-17,Variances,toallowforanadditionwithinthewestsidesetback, ਍ഀ locatedat2570BaldMountainRoad/Lot33,Block2,VailVillageFiling13,andsettingforth ਍ഀ detailsinregardthereto.(PEC07-0036) ਍ഀ Applicant:EdWilliams,representedbyWilliamHeinAssociates ਍ഀ Planner:BillGibson ਍ഀ ACTION:TabledtoNovember12,2007 ਍ഀ MOTION:SECOND:VOTE: ਍ഀ Page2 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ 8.ApprovalofOctober8,2007minutes ਍ഀ MOTION:SECOND:VOTE: ਍ഀ 9.InformationUpdate ਍ഀ 10.Adjournment ਍ഀ MOTION:SECOND:VOTE: ਍ഀ Theapplicationsandinformationabouttheproposalsareavailableforpublicinspectionduringregular ਍ഀ officehoursattheTownofVailCommunityDevelopmentDepartment,75SouthFrontageRoad.The ਍ഀ publicisinvitedtoattendtheprojectorientationandthesitevisitsthatprecedethepublichearinginthe ਍ഀ TownofVailCommunityDevelopmentDepartment.Pleasecall(970)479-2138foradditional ਍ഀ information. ਍ഀ Signlanguageinterpretationisavailableuponrequestwith24-hournotification.Pleasecall(970) ਍ഀ 479-2356,TelephonefortheHearingImpaired,forinformation. ਍ഀ CommunityDevelopmentDepartment ਍ഀ PublishedOctober19,2007,intheVailDaily. ਍ഀ Page3 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ THISITEMMAYAFFECTYOURPROPERTY ਍ഀ PUBLICNOTICE ਍ഀ NOTICEISHEREBYGIVENthatthePlanningandEnvironmentalCommissionofthe ਍ഀ TownofVailwillholdapublichearinginaccordancewithsection12-3-6,VailTown ਍ഀ October22,2007,at1:00pm ਍ഀ Code,onintheTownofVailMunicipalBuilding,in ਍ഀ considerationof: ਍ഀ Arequestforafinalreviewofavariance,fromSection14-3-1,MinimumStandards, ਍ഀ pursuanttoChapter12-17,Variances,VailTownCode,toallowfordeviationsfrom ਍ഀ minimumdeflectionanglefordrivewayaccess,locatedat2755SnowberryDrive/Lot10, ਍ഀ Block9,VailIntermountainSubdivision,andsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto. ਍ഀ (PEC07-0062) ਍ഀ Applicant:DaveHilb,representedbyJohnG.Martin,Architect ਍ഀ Planner:BillGibson ਍ഀ Arequestforafinalreviewofamajorexterioralteration,pursuanttoSection12-7H-7, ਍ഀ MajorExteriorAlterationsorModifications,VailTownCode,toallowfortheconstruction ਍ഀ ofadwellingunitattheLionsheadInn,locatedat705WestLionsheadCircle/PartofLot ਍ഀ 1,Block2,VailLionsheadFiling3,andsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07- ਍ഀ 0061) ਍ഀ Applicant:LionsheadInn,LLC,representedbyMaurielloPlanningGroup,LLC ਍ഀ Planner:BillGibson ਍ഀ ArequestforafinalreviewofavariancefromSection12-6D-6,Setbacks,VailTown ਍ഀ Code,pursuanttoChapter12-17,Variances,toallowforanadditionwithinthewestside ਍ഀ setback,locatedat2570BaldMountainRoad/Lot33,Block2,VailVillageFiling13,and ਍ഀ settingforthdetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07-0036) ਍ഀ Applicant:EdWilliams,representedbyWilliamHeinAssociates ਍ഀ Planner:BillGibson ਍ഀ ArequestforafinalrecommendationtotheVailTownCouncil,pursuanttoSection12-3- ਍ഀ 7,Amendment,VailTownCode,forprescribedregulationamendmentstoTitle12,Vail ਍ഀ TownCode,torequirepublicartforcertaindevelopmentandredevelopmentprojectsin ਍ഀ LionsheadMixedUse1,LionsheadMixedUse2,PublicAccommodations,Public ਍ഀ Accommodations2,CommercialCore1,CommercialCore2,CommercialCore3,Ski ਍ഀ BaseRecreation,SkiBaseRecreation2andSpecialDevelopmentDistricts,andsetting ਍ഀ forthdetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07-0033) ਍ഀ Applicant:TownofVail ਍ഀ Planner:RachelFriede ਍ഀ Arequestforafinalreviewofaconditionalusepermit,pursuanttoSection12-9C-3, ਍ഀ ConditionalUses,VailTownCode,toallowformodificationstoapublicbuilding ਍ഀ (emergencypowergenerator),locatedat75SouthFrontageRoadWest(TownofVail ਍ഀ AdministrationBuilding)/Unplatted,andsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07- ਍ഀ 0063) ਍ഀ Applicant:TownofVail ਍ഀ Planner:NicolePeterson ਍ഀ Page1 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ Theapplicationsandinformationabouttheproposalsareavailableforpublicinspection ਍ഀ duringofficehoursattheTownofVailCommunityDevelopmentDepartment,75South ਍ഀ FrontageRoad.Thepublicisinvitedtoattendprojectorientationandthesitevisitsthat ਍ഀ precedethepublichearingintheTownofVailCommunityDevelopmentDepartment. ਍ഀ Pleasecall970-479-2138foradditionalinformation. ਍ഀ Signlanguageinterpretationisavailableuponrequest,with24-hournotification.Please ਍ഀ call970-479-2356,TelephonefortheHearingImpaired,forinformation.Published ਍ഀ October5,2007,intheVailDaily. ਍ഀ Page2 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ਍ഀ PLANNINGANDENVIRONMENTALCOMMISSION ਍ഀ October8,2007 ਍ഀ 1:00pm ਍ഀ TOWNCOUNCILCHAMBERS/PUBLICWELCOME ਍ഀ 75S.FrontageRoad-Vail,Colorado,81657 ਍ഀ MEMBERSPRESENTMEMBERSABSENT ਍ഀ RollieKjesboScottProper ਍ഀ DickClevelandDavidViele ਍ഀ AnneGunion ਍ഀ BillPierce ਍ഀ MichaelKurz ਍ഀ NoSiteVisits ਍ഀ 15minutes ਍ഀ 1.Arequestforafinalapprovalofaconditionalusepermit,pursuanttoSection12-9C-3, ਍ഀ ConditionalUses,VailTownCode,toallowforpublicutilitiesinstallations,locatedat169North ਍ഀ FrontageRoadWest,Lot2,MiddleCreekSubdivisionandsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto. ਍ഀ (PEC07-0060) ਍ഀ Applicant:CricketCommunications,Inc.,representedbyMikeSharlow ਍ഀ Planner:NicolePeterson ਍ഀ ACTION:Approvedwithcondition(s) ਍ഀ MOTION:KjesboSECOND:PierceVOTE:5-0-0 ਍ഀ Condition(s): ਍ഀ 1.TheapplicantshallpaintandmaintaintherustyelementsonthetopoftheSprint ਍ഀ TowerpriortorequestingfinalTownofVailconstructioninspections. ਍ഀ 2.Theapplicantshallremoveanyobsoletetelecommunicationsequipmentfromthe ਍ഀ SprintTowerpriortorequestingfinalTownofVailconstructioninspections. ਍ഀ 3.TheconditionalusepermitiscontingentupontheapplicantobtainingTownofVail ਍ഀ designreviewapprovalforthisproposal. ਍ഀ NicolePetersongaveapresentationperthestaffmemorandum. ਍ഀ Therewasnopubliccomment. ਍ഀ CommissionerPierceaskedsomeclarifyingquestionsregardingtheheightandsizeofthe ਍ഀ antennas. ਍ഀ Mr.Sharlow,representingtheapplicantclarifiedtheownershipofthetower.Healsostatedthat ਍ഀ theantennasareflushedmountedwithallwiringmountedinternally. ਍ഀ 15minutes ਍ഀ 2.ArequestforafinalrecommendationtotheVailTownCouncilforazonedistrictboundary ਍ഀ amendment,pursuanttoSection12-3-7,Amendment,VailTownCode,toallowforarezoning ਍ഀ ofapropertyfromHighDensityMultiple-Family(HDMF)DistricttoHousing(H)District,located ਍ഀ at501NorthFrontageRoad,Lot8,Block2,VailPotatoPatchandsettingforthdetailsinregard ਍ഀ thereto.(PEC07-0059) ਍ഀ Applicant:SonnenalpProperties,Inc.,representedbyGwathmeyPrattSchultzLindallArchitects ਍ഀ Planner:ScotHunn ਍ഀ ACTION:Recommendationofapproval ਍ഀ MOTION:KjesboSECOND:KurzVOTE:5-0-0 ਍ഀ Page1 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ ScotHunngaveapresentationperthestaffmemorandum. ਍ഀ Theapplicanthadnothingfurthertoadd. ਍ഀ NancyRicci,principalofRedSandstoneElementary,statedthat,onbehalfofRedSandstone ਍ഀ ElementaryandtheSchoolDistrict,shewasingeneralsupportoftheTown’semployeehousing ਍ഀ goalsandspecificallywiththeApplicant’sproposedplans.Shestatedconcernwithsafetyofthe ਍ഀ schoolrelativetoaccessfortenantsoftheSolarVailprojectacrossorthroughtheSchoolsite. ਍ഀ Astheprojectmovesforward,sheaskedtheApplicantandPECtoinsurethatthetenantsofthe ਍ഀ projecthaveaccesstothesidewalkalongtheFrontageRoad. ਍ഀ CommissionerKjesboaskedaclarifyingquestionregardingthefunctionalityofasetofstairson ਍ഀ theeastsideofprojectandwhethertheywouldwork. ਍ഀ CommissionerKurzsuggestedthattheApplicantstudyopportunitiestoaddlandscapingasa ਍ഀ bufferbetweentheSolarVailsiteandtheSchool. ਍ഀ JimLamont,VailVillageHomeownersAssociation,askedabouthowparkingwouldbeassessed ਍ഀ forofficesandemployeehousingunits.Hisorganizationhasanissuewithofficesinthehousing ਍ഀ district. ਍ഀ ScotHunnrespondedthattheofficecomponentwouldbeassessedthestandardoffice ਍ഀ requirementpertheVailTownCode. ਍ഀ 10minutes ਍ഀ 3.ArequestforafinalrecommendationtotheVailTownCouncilforaprescribedregulations ਍ഀ amendmentto12-6I-3,ConditionalUses,VailTownCode,andtoSection12-16-7,UseSpecific ਍ഀ CriteriaAndStandards,VailTownCode,pursuantSection12-3-7,Amendment,VailTownCode, ਍ഀ toallowforprofessionalofficesandbusinessofficesasconditionaluses,locatedat501North ਍ഀ FrontageRoad,Lot8,Block2,VailPotatoPatchandsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto. ਍ഀ (PEC07-0059) ਍ഀ Applicant:SonnenalpProperties,Inc.,representedbyGwathmeyPrattSchultzLindallArchitects ਍ഀ Planner:ScotHunn ਍ഀ ACTION:Recommendationofapproval ਍ഀ MOTION:KjesboSECOND:KurzVOTE:5-0-0 ਍ഀ ScotHunngaveapresentationperthestaffmemorandum. ਍ഀ HenryPratt,representingtheapplicant,respondedtoJimLamont’scommentsmadeunderitem ਍ഀ Number2,regardingparking.Hestatedthattheprojectwouldhaveaparkingassessmentfor ਍ഀ theofficecomponentandthehousingcomponent. ਍ഀ Therewasnopubliccomment. ਍ഀ TheCommissiongenerallyfeltthattheprovisionofofficespaceintown,andspecificallyas ਍ഀ includedorintegratedwithinanemployeehousingdevelopment,meetstheintentoftheTown’s ਍ഀ goals,policiesandobjectives. ਍ഀ Page2 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ 15minutes ਍ഀ 4.ArequestforafinalrecommendationtotheVailTownCouncilforazonedistrictboundary ਍ഀ amendment,pursuantto12-3-7,Amendments,VailTownCode,toallowforarezoningfrom ਍ഀ ArterialBusinessDistricttoLionsheadMixedUse2,locatedat953and1031SouthFrontage ਍ഀ Road(acompletelegaldescriptionisavailableforinspectionattheTownofVailCommunity ਍ഀ DevelopmentDepartment),andsettingforthDetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07-0021) ਍ഀ Applicant:VailResortsDevelopmentCompany,representedbyThomasMiller ਍ഀ Planner:WarrenCampbell ਍ഀ ACTION:TabletoOctober22,2007 ਍ഀ MOTION:KjesboSECOND:PierceVOTE:5-0-0 ਍ഀ WarrenCampbellinformedtheCommissionthattheapplicanthasrequestedatablingonthis ਍ഀ itemtothenexthearing,inanefforttotryandhaveacompleteCommissionpresentastheyfeel ਍ഀ itisanimportantitemandtheywouldlikeasmuchinputaspossible. ਍ഀ 60minutes ਍ഀ 5.Arequestforfinalreviewofamajorexterioralteration,pursuanttoSection12-7H-7,Major ਍ഀ ExteriorAlterationsorModifications,VailTownCode,toallowfortheredevelopmentofthe ਍ഀ LionsheadInnandLionsheadInnAnnex(Fogata),andarequestforfinalreviewofconditional ਍ഀ usepermits,pursuanttoSection12-7H-3,PermittedandConditionalUses,FirstFloororStreet ਍ഀ Level,VailTownCode,toallowforattachedaccommodationunits,lodgedwellingunits,and ਍ഀ multiple-familyresidentialunitsonthefirstfloor,andpursuanttoSection12-7H-5,Conditional ਍ഀ Uses:Generally(OnAllLevelsOfABuildingOrOutsideOfABuilding),VailTownCode,toallow ਍ഀ forthedevelopmentofaprivateparkinglot,locatedat701and705WestLionsheadCircle/part ਍ഀ ofLot1,Block2,VailLionsheadFiling3,andsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07- ਍ഀ 0027,PEC07-0028) ਍ഀ Applicant:LionsheadInnLLC,representedbyMaurielloPlanningGroupLLC ਍ഀ Planner:WarrenCampbell ਍ഀ ACTION:TabledtoOctober22,2007 ਍ഀ MOTION:KjesboSECOND:PierceVOTE:5-0-0 ਍ഀ WarrenCampbellinformedtheCommissionthattheapplicanthasrequestedatablingonthis ਍ഀ itemtothenexthearinginanefforttotryandhaveacompleteCommissionpresentastheyfeel ਍ഀ itisanimportantitemthattheywouldliketohaveasmuchinputaspossible. ਍ഀ 45minutes ਍ഀ 6.ArequestforaworksessiontodiscussamajoramendmenttoaSpecialDevelopmentDistrict ਍ഀ (SDD),pursuanttoSection12-9A-10,AmendmentProcedures,VailTownCode,toallowforan ਍ഀ amendmenttoSpecialDevelopmentDistrictNo.17,Ramshorn,toallowforthe ਍ഀ redevelopmentofRamshornLodge,locatedat416VailValleyDrive/Block3,VailVillage5th ਍ഀ FilingandTractF-1,VailVillageFiling5,andsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto.(PEC07- ਍ഀ 0038) ਍ഀ Applicant:RamshornLodge,representedbyPylman&Associates,Inc. ਍ഀ Planner:ScotHunn ਍ഀ ACTION:TabledtoNovember12,2007 ਍ഀ MOTION:KurzSECOND:KjesboVOTE:4-0-1(Piercerecused) ਍ഀ CommissionerPiercerecusedhimself. ਍ഀ ScotHunngaveapresentationperthestaffmemorandum. ਍ഀ DianeMilligan,representativeoftheRamshornHomeownersAssociation,madeapresentation ਍ഀ tothePEC.Shesaidthatthisprojectservestoaddontoexistingresidentialunits,andwillnot ਍ഀ Page3 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ includefor-saleresidentialspace.TheprojectwillalsoupdatethebuildingtocomplywithFire ਍ഀ RegluationsandADAregulations.Itwillincludeupdatingthelobbyandtheexteriorofthe ਍ഀ building,whileaddingfiresprinklers. ਍ഀ ToddDunzy,FritzlenPierceArchitectsrepresentingtheapplicant,showedadocumentthat ਍ഀ comparedtheTivolitotheproposedheightoftheRamshorn.Toddshowedtwosectionsofthe ਍ഀ Ramshornroofplan,showingelevationsofbothbuildings.Thebuildingisproposedtobe50ft-4 ਍ഀ inchesabovegradeonthesouthside,and55feet,11inchesonthenorthside.Hereiterated ਍ഀ thattheRamshornbuildingwouldnotexceedtheapprovedheightoftheTivoli,whichis56feet. ਍ഀ Toddshowedhowthebuildingcouldsupportafourthfloorbythecreationofan“exoskeleton” ਍ഀ structure,similartothatdesignedfortheManorVailbuilding. ਍ഀ DianeMilligansaidthattheRamshornprojectwilldifferfromtheManorVailprojectinthat ਍ഀ Ramshornwillremovetheircurrentroof.Dianecontinuedthattheprojectisbelowallowable ਍ഀ density,inthat16.8unitsareallowedandtheypropose16units.Theyareonlybuildingto77% ਍ഀ ofwhattheunderlyingzoningwouldallow.Theyarefocusingonkeepingunderdensity,GRFA ਍ഀ andstayingwithintheexistingfootprintasbesttheycan. ਍ഀ CommissionerKjesboaskedforclarificationonthenewunits. ਍ഀ DianeMilliganansweredthattwoofthefourthirdfloorunitsareexpandingtheirunitstothe ਍ഀ fourthfloor.Theothertwounitswillnotconnecttothe3rdfloorunits,thuscreatingnewunits. ਍ഀ However,thoseunitswillnotbesold. ਍ഀ ToddDunzycontinuedthattheplansshowhatchedlinesfornewfloorarea.Regarding ਍ഀ structuralissues,thethirdfloorwallswillbedemolishedandrebuiltwiththefourthfloor.Hesaid ਍ഀ theyarestilldevelopingthefloorplansforeachowner. ਍ഀ DianeMilligansaidtheyworkedonthesiteplan,andhaveaddressedpreviouslyidentified ਍ഀ issuesrelatedtoparkingandlandscaping. ਍ഀ ToddDunzythenshowedthesiteplantothePEC.Theyhavebeenabletoput37spaceswithin ਍ഀ thesite,thusmeetingtheirrequirementandexceedingexistingparking.TheyhaveusedPublic ਍ഀ Accommodation(PA)Districtsetbacks,andaregenerallyincompliance,althoughthereare ਍ഀ existingencroachments.Hesaidthesitewallproposedalongthesouthpropertylinewillinclude ਍ഀ amuralorsomeotherpublicart,inordertoprovideagreatpublicamenity. ਍ഀ DianeMilliganaskedaboutparkingintheRamshornbuilding.Shesaidtheyhavenevervalet ਍ഀ parkedacarinthehistoryofthebuilding.Further,iftheywereapprovedtodevelop32parking ਍ഀ spacesratherthan37,shesaidsheisconfidentthattheywillnotbeoverparked.Shestatedthat ਍ഀ suchplanwouldbeinconformancewiththeVailVillageMasterPlanandwouldprovideabetter ਍ഀ pedestrianexperience.ShewanteddirectionfromthePEConhowmanyparkingspacesthey ਍ഀ neededtoprovide. ਍ഀ ToddDunzyaddedthatifinthecoreparkingarea,theywouldonlyberequired22.Hesaid32 ਍ഀ wouldbemorethanadequate.Hesaidthattherearenumerousoptionsonparkingandthe ਍ഀ combinationofparkingandlandscapingonthesite. ਍ഀ ScotHunnaddedthatimprovedlandscapingincertainareasimmediatelyadjacenttotheparking ਍ഀ lotentranceacrossfromtheTivolimightbemoreappropriatethanparkingspaces. ਍ഀ ToddDunzyaddedthatanemployeeunitisbeingproposedunderneaththelobby,inone(1),2 ਍ഀ bedroom,1100squarefootunit. ਍ഀ Page4 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ JimLamont,representingtheVailVillageHomeownersassociation,askedaboutparkingonLot ਍ഀ P2.JimquestionediftheredevelopmentofP2intoa“Founder’sGarage-like’structurewouldbe ਍ഀ viableanddesired. ਍ഀ DianeandTodd,discussedtheparkingsituation,statingthat,inthefutureredevelopmentofthe ਍ഀ P2Lotmaybedesiredbythebuildingownershipifdoneinpartnershipwithadjacentresidential ਍ഀ developments. ਍ഀ CommissionerGunionwouldlikeexistingdrawingstobeincludedinfuturepackagesof ਍ഀ materials.Itwillhelphertodeterminewhatconditionsarebeingmadeworse.Withregardto ਍ഀ buildingheightsheisconcernedwiththestraightridgeline.Unbrokenridgeshouldbe ਍ഀ articulatedmore.Shediscussedthatdeviationsshouldallowforabettermentofanotheraspect ਍ഀ ofthezoningcodeoraneighboringproperty. ਍ഀ CommissionerKurzhadmanyofthesamecommentsthatCommissionerGunion.Hestated ਍ഀ thathesupportedtheEHUandwouldsupportareducedparkingnumber. ਍ഀ CommissionerKjesbostatedthattheEHUonsiteispositive,butthathewouldnotsupport ਍ഀ havingreducedparkingonsite. ਍ഀ CommissionerClevelandlikesEHUonsite.Hecontinuedthathehasconcernsovertheamount ਍ഀ (scale)ofdevelopmentonthesiteandthathewouldnotliketoseeparkingreducedasakey ਍ഀ componenttothesuccessoftheVillage. ਍ഀ 45minutes ਍ഀ 7.ArequestforafinalrecommendationtotheVailTownCouncil,pursuanttoSection12-3-7, ਍ഀ Amendments,VailTownCode,forproposedtextamendmentstoTitle11,SignRegulations,and ਍ഀ Title12,ZoningRegulations,VailTownCode,toallowforamendmentstoregulationspertaining ਍ഀ tooutdoordisplay,salessigns,menuboards,andsettingforthdetailsinregardthereto. ਍ഀ (PEC07-0043) ਍ഀ Applicant:TownofVailandVailChamber&BusinessAssociation ਍ഀ Planner:RachelFriede ਍ഀ Therewerethreeseparatemotionsmadeonthisitem. ਍ഀ Motion1:SaleSigns ਍ഀ ACTION:Recommendationforapproval ਍ഀ MOTION:PierceSECOND:KurzVOTE:5-0-0 ਍ഀ Motion2:OutdoorDisplay ਍ഀ ACTION:Recommendationforapproval ਍ഀ MOTION:KjesboSECOND:PierceVOTE:5-0-0 ਍ഀ Motion3:MenuBoardsandDailySpecialBoards ਍ഀ ACTION:Recommendationforapproval ਍ഀ MOTION:KjesboSECOND:KurzVOTE:5-0-0 ਍ഀ KayeFerrystatedthatshehadbeendirectedbyhermembershiptoremovetheVCBAremoved ਍ഀ asanapplicantfromtheapplication. ਍ഀ GeorgeRuthergaveapresentationregardingthereasonsbehindre-openingthesign ਍ഀ regulationsforreview.Thethreecategoriesproposedforamendmentrepresentthethreemost ਍ഀ violatedtypesofsignageanddisplaythatoccuronaregularbasis.Thisproblemmaybe ਍ഀ indicativeofissuewiththecodeortheimplementationtothecode.Inmeetingwithallthe ਍ഀ Page5 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ merchantsandothergroupsconsensuswasstressed.Itwasthegoaloftheseamendmentsthat ਍ഀ compromisewouldbeneededtoreachthisconsensus.Thismayincludetossingpersonal ਍ഀ desiresoutthewindowandthinkingofthebettergoodoftheTown. ਍ഀ KayeFerrygaveapresentationonthehistoryoftheproposedsigncodeamendment.She ਍ഀ mentionedhowstaffhadmetwiththeVCBAandsetupmeetingswiththerestaurantandretail ਍ഀ communitiesseparately.Shestatedherfrustrationthattheproposedamendmentsdonotreflect ਍ഀ theagreementsandcompromisethatweremade. ਍ഀ CommissionerClevelandaskediftablingtheitemwouldbeofanybenefit. ਍ഀ GeorgeRutheraskedtheCommissiontolookatthechartatthebackofthememorandum.He ਍ഀ pointedoutthatforeachsigntopicthereweredifferingperspectivesfromeachofthegroups. ਍ഀ CommissionerClevelandlaidouttheprocessfortheremainderofthehearing.Itwasagreed ਍ഀ thateachoftheamendmentsforthethreetypesofsignswouldbediscussedseparatelyandthat ਍ഀ motionswouldbemadeoneachtypeofsignafterdiscussioninanefforttomakesome ਍ഀ progress. ਍ഀ GeorgeRuthergaveapresentationoftheproposedamendments.Hedidthisbygoingthrough ਍ഀ the11X17attachmenttothememorandum.Hebeganwithsalessigns. ਍ഀ StephenConolley,Vailhomeowner,mentionedthatcreativepeoplewillfindwaysaroundthe ਍ഀ proposedsalesignregulation.Hesawasignsaying“PartnerGoingOutOfBusiness”which ਍ഀ maynotfallintothiscategory.Hefeltthreesquarefeetwassmall,andthattheoverallsize ਍ഀ shouldberegulatednotnumber. ਍ഀ KayeFerrysuggestedthatamaximumsquarefootagewastheappropriatewaytohandlethe ਍ഀ issueassomeretailersliketodomoresmallersignversefewerlargersigns. ਍ഀ KelliMcDonald,representingVailEconomicAdvisoryCouncil,statedthattheVEAC’spositions ਍ഀ asfoundinthestaffmemorandumwereaccurate. ਍ഀ TomHiggins,owneroftheAmericanSkiExchangeposedthequestionthattheTownshouldnot ਍ഀ reallybeinthebusinessoftheregulatingsignage.Customerswilldeterminewhomakesitand ਍ഀ whodoesn’t.Heagreesthereshouldbeaestheticregulationsbutitshouldbelaissezfaire ਍ഀ betweengovernmentandbusiness. ਍ഀ BobWalsh,ownerofCharlie’sT-shirts,talkedabouttheinvestmenthehadinhisbusinessand ਍ഀ theyhavebeeninbusinessforagreatperiodoftimeandtheyshouldbetrusted. ਍ഀ TomNeyens,ownerofBikeValetandSkiValetinLionshead,statedhehasbeeninbusinessfor ਍ഀ 17yearsandisnotsurewhythesigncodewasenforcedsoaccuratelyinthepastyear.He ਍ഀ believeslessenforcementismore. ਍ഀ CommissionerKurzidentifiedthereisasigncodeanditdoesneedsomework.Hewouldliketo ਍ഀ reviewtheapplicationandmakesomerecommendations. ਍ഀ CommissionerGunion,statedthatshehasdoneagreatdealofresearchsincethelasthearing ਍ഀ andbelievestheproposedamendmentscouldbemorecreative.Shesuggestedthatrepetition ਍ഀ andtheuseofonelargegraphiccouldbemoreappropriatethanlimitingnumberandsize.She ਍ഀ suggestedhavingaspecialisthelpwritetheregulationsorlookingatothercommunitiestosee ਍ഀ whathasbeensuccessful. ਍ഀ Page6 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ SteveRosenthal,ownerofColoradoFootwear,pointedoutthatVaildoesmorebusinessper ਍ഀ th ਍ഀ squarefootthanplaceslikeBeverlyHills,5Avenue,andotherprimebusinesslocations,and ਍ഀ thus,weshouldnotcompareVailwithotherplaces. ਍ഀ CommissionerKurzsaiditisvisualimpactofsignsthatmatters,andthatsignageshouldbe ਍ഀ limitedinsquarefootage,butnotinnumberofsigns.Hesaiditwouldbeeasilyenforced. ਍ഀ CommissionerClevelandagreedwiththedeletionoftheextrasignageprovision.Heagreed ਍ഀ withMichaelthat3sqftisadequateandthatthenumberofsignsshouldbedeleted. ਍ഀ CommissionerPiercemadeamotiontoforwardarecommendationofapproval,statingthathe ਍ഀ wouldliketoprohibitsignsthatsay“Liquidation”or“GoingoutofBusiness”,eliminatethe ਍ഀ limitationontotalnumberofsigns,limitingsalesignstoatotalof3sqftofsignage,nochange ਍ഀ onheight,anddeletionofthespecialprovision. ਍ഀ CommissionerKurzsecondedthemotion.Themotionunanimouslypassed. ਍ഀ GeorgeRutherthenmadeapresentationregardingtheproposedchangestooutdoordisplay. ਍ഀ HeaskedthePECwhethertheywouldprefertohaveanyadditionalregulationforoutdoor ਍ഀ display. ਍ഀ KayeFerrystatedthatshebelievesitshouldremainunchanged.. ਍ഀ StephenConnollyaskedhowmanybusinessesdisplayonpublicproperty. ਍ഀ GeorgeRutherexplainedthatmanybusinessesdonothavespaceonprivatepropertyfor ਍ഀ display. ਍ഀ StephenConnollystatedthathehasspokentosomeguestandbelievesoutdoordisplaysare ਍ഀ necessary. ਍ഀ TomNeyens,statedthatbikeshopsthroughouttownneedtoutilizepubliclandtodisplayand ਍ഀ storebikes.Hebelievesthatamethodforleasingpublicpropertyisneeded. ਍ഀ TomHiggins,statedthatheisfortunatetohaveacoveredarcadeareathatisonprivateproperty ਍ഀ andthathisinitialsigningoftheleasewasbasedupontheabilitytodisplayoutside.Puttinga ਍ഀ displayoutsideiswelcomingtohiscustomers,itiskindofasettingofthetablefordinnerguests. ਍ഀ Tastefuldisplayscanbebeneficial.OnprivatepropertywhydoestheTownwanttobeinvolved ਍ഀ inregulatingthedisplaysaslongastheyaretasteful. ਍ഀ JackieHigginsstatedthattheTownischangingforthebetterortheworse,andinthedesireto ਍ഀ providealivingfortheirfamily,privatepropertyshouldbeaffordedtheabilitytodowhatisbest ਍ഀ forthebusiness. ਍ഀ KayeFerryaddedthatitisalmostimpossibletoputbikedisplayonprivateproperty.Bikeracks ਍ഀ havebeenconsistentlysuggestedasbeinganexceptiontothedisplayonpublicproperty. ਍ഀ CommissionerKjesbo,askedabouttheoutdoordisplayandifitwascreatingasafetyissue. ਍ഀ GeorgeRutheridentifiedthatinsomesituationstherearesafetyissues.Hegaveanexampleof ਍ഀ TomNeyensandwantingtoputasmallgroupingofbikesonprivateproperty. ਍ഀ Page7 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ CommissionerKjesbo,doesnotagreewithaleasewithafee,butasimpleagreementonsize ਍ഀ andlocationshouldbeagreeduponbaseduponspecificsituationsofasite. ਍ഀ CommissionerGunionbelievesprivatepropertyshouldbelessregulated,butdisplaysonpublic ਍ഀ propertyshouldbemoreregulated.Shedoesnotagreewithleasing,butthedisplaysshouldbe ਍ഀ tasteful.OnpublicpropertytheTownshouldhavetherighttoaskbusinessestomakechanges ਍ഀ toaddressconcernswiththepublichealth,safety,andwelfare. ਍ഀ CommissionerPierce,statedthatheagreedwithCommissionerGunion,buthebelievesthat ਍ഀ thereshouldbeselfregulationamongstthebusinesses.TheTownhasahighqualityimageand ਍ഀ standardandifdisplaysarenotdonewelltheTownwillgetintothebusinessofregulating. ਍ഀ CommissionerKurzbelievesthisissueshouldremainunchanged,butthatdisplaysonprivate ਍ഀ landshouldbedonetastefully. ਍ഀ CommissionerClevelandbelievestheTownshouldleasepropertytothosewithoutprivate ਍ഀ property.Retailisverydynamicandchanges.Bikeshopsneedtodisplaymerchandiseoutside. ਍ഀ CommissionerKjesbomadeamotiontoforwardarecommendationofapproval,statingthat ਍ഀ should ਍ഀ displaysonprivatepropertyshallremainascurrentlyregulatedandthataprogrambe ਍ഀ establishedforallowingdisplaysonpublicpropertythattheTownwouldhavecontroloverwith ਍ഀ regardstosizeandaesthetics. ਍ഀ CommissionerPiercesecondedthemotion.Themotionpassedbyunanimousvote. ਍ഀ GeorgeRuthergaveapresentationontheproposedchangestothemenuboardanddisplay ਍ഀ board. ਍ഀ MichaelStaughton,ownerofLosAmigosandRussell’s,describedthedifficultyofputtingmenus ਍ഀ intoa6squarefootboxandhavinglittlearealeft.Thedryeraseboardsallowforconveyanceof ਍ഀ specials.Hewouldliketobeabletousedryeraseboardsyearroundandwouldagreethata ਍ഀ threesquarefootdryeraseboardwouldbeacceptable. ਍ഀ BillSuarez,ownerofBilly’sIslandGrill,statedheisappreciativethathisinputisbeingtakeninto ਍ഀ account.Heexplainedtheadvantagesofhavingadryeraseboardwhichcanchange ਍ഀ frequently.Importantyearround. ਍ഀ SteveRosenthalbelievesthataspecialboardisrequiredforthetimethatVailiscurrentlyinwith ਍ഀ peopleeatingoutmorefrequently.Hewouldsuggestnine(9)squarefeettotalisenoughareato ਍ഀ displaymenusanddailyspecials. ਍ഀ TheCommissionersgenerallyagreedthatnine(9)squarefeetisappropriateandthereshould ਍ഀ notbemorethantwosignswithnomorethansix(6)squarefeetforthemenuboardandthree ਍ഀ (3)squarefeetforthedailyspecialsboard.CommissionerClevelandsuggestedtheregulation ਍ഀ shouldsayupto9squarefeettoallowflexibilityfortheDesignReviewBoard. ਍ഀ CommissionerKjesbomadeamotiontoforwardarecommendationofapprovaltocreatea ਍ഀ menuboardsignwithamaximumallowableareaofsix(6)squarefeetandadailyspecials ਍ഀ boardsignwithamaximumallowableareaofthree(3)squarefeet. ਍ഀ CommissionerKurzsecondedthemotion.Themotionpassedunanimously. ਍ഀ Page8 ਍ഀ ਍ഀ 8.ApprovalofSeptember24,2007minutes ਍ഀ MOTION:KurzSECOND:PierceVOTE:4-0-1(Kjesbo ਍ഀ abstained) ਍ഀ 9.InformationUpdate ਍ഀ 10.Adjournment ਍ഀ MOTION:KjesboSECOND:KurzVOTE:5-0-0 ਍ഀ Theapplicationsandinformationabouttheproposalsareavailableforpublicinspectionduringregular ਍ഀ officehoursattheTownofVailCommunityDevelopmentDepartment,75SouthFrontageRoad.The ਍ഀ publicisinvitedtoattendtheprojectorientationandthesitevisitsthatprecedethepublichearinginthe ਍ഀ TownofVailCommunityDevelopmentDepartment.Pleasecall(970)479-2138foradditional ਍ഀ information. ਍ഀ Signlanguageinterpretationisavailableuponrequestwith24-hournotification.Pleasecall(970) ਍ഀ 479-2356,TelephonefortheHearingImpaired,forinformation. ਍ഀ CommunityDevelopmentDepartment ਍ഀ PublishedOctober5,2007,intheVailDaily. ਍ഀ Page9 ਍ഀ