HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-1022 PECTOWN OF VA P� PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION
October 22, 2012
1:00Pm
TOWN COUNCIL CHAMBERS / PUBLIC WELCOME
75 S. Frontage Road - Vail, Colorado, 81657
"Order and times of agenda items are subject to change"
20 minutes
A request for the review of amendments to a conditional use permit, pursuant to Section 12-16-
10, Amendment Procedures, Vail Town Code, to allow for the redevelopment of the Vail Golf
Course Club House (i.e. accessory buildings, permanent and temporary, and uses customarily
incidental and accessory to permitted or conditional outdoor recreational uses, and necessary for
the operation thereof, including restrooms, drinking fountains, bleachers, concessions, storage
buildings, and similar uses), located at 1775 Sunburst Drive/Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3 and
Unplatted Parcels (a complete metes and bounds description is available at the Community
Development Department Office), and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120036)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
20 minutes
2. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council for a zone district boundary
amendment, pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, to allow for a rezoning of
the Vail Golf Course parking lot from the General Use District to the Outdoor Recreation District,
located at 1775 Sunburst Drive/Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3, and setting forth details in regard
thereto. (PEC120037)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
20 minutes
3. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council on prescribed regulation amendments,
pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, to allow for amendments to Section
12-8B-7, Height, Vail Town Code, to increase the allowable building height within the Outdoor
Recreation District, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120039)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
45 minutes
4. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council, pursuant to Section 12-3-7,
Amendment, Vail Town Code, for prescribed regulations amendments to Title 12, Zoning
Regulations, and Title 14, Development Standards, Vail Town Code, to require restoration of
watercourses and riparian areas, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120011)
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Rachel Dimond
5 minutes
5. A report to the Planning and Environmental Commission on the administrator's approval of an
amendment to an existing conditional use permit, pursuant to Section 12-16-10, Amendment
Procedures, Vail Town Code, to allow for the continued use of a private parking lot, located at
934 South Frontage Road/Unplatted, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120034)
Applicant: Vail Resorts Development Company, represented by the Mauriello Planning Group
Planner: Warren Campbell
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6. A request for the review of conditional use permits, pursuant to Section 12-9C-3, Conditional
Uses, Vail Town Code, for a healthcare facility and a public building and grounds, to allow for the
redevelopment of the Town of Vail municipal site with a medical research, rehabilitation, and
office building and a municipal office building located at 75 and 111 South Frontage Road West/
Unplatted, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120012)
Applicant: Vail MOB, LLC, represented by Triumph Development and Town of Vail, represented
by Consilium Partners, Vail
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Table to November 12, 2012
7. A request for the review of a variance from Section 12-6G-6, Setbacks, Vail Town Code,
pursuant to Chapter 12-17, Variances, Vail Town Code, to allow for the construction of a garage
within the setbacks, located at 4192 Columbine Way/Lots 25 & 26, Bighorn Terrace, and setting
forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120027)
Applicant: Anne Upton, represented by Pierce Architects
Planner: Bill Gibson
ACTION: Table to November 12, 2012
8. A request for the review of a conditional use permit, pursuant to Section 12-71-5, Conditional
Uses, Generally (On all levels of a building or outside of a building), Vail Town Code, to allow for
a ski lift and tow (gondola), located at 934 South Frontage Road/ Unplatted, and a request for a
conditional use permit, pursuant to 12-8B-3, Conditional Uses, Vail Town Code to allow for a ski
lift and tow (gondola), located at 830 Forest Road/Unplatted and setting forth details in regard
thereto. (PEC120035)
Applicant: Vail Resorts Development Company, represented by the Mauriello Planning Group
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Table to December 10, 2012
9. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council for a prescribed regulations
amendment, pursuant to 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, to allow for amendments to Title
12, Zoning Regulations, to amend the development review process, and setting forth details in
regard thereto. (PEC120010)
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Rachel Dimond
ACTION: Table to December 10, 2012
10. Approval of October 8, 2012 minutes
11. Information Update
12. Adjournment
The applications and information about the proposals are available for public inspection during regular
office hours at the Town of Vail Community Development Department, 75 South Frontage Road. The
public is invited to attend the project orientation and the site visits that precede the public hearing in the
Town of Vail Community Development Department. Please call (970) 479-2138 for additional
information.
Sign language interpretation is available upon request with 24-hour notification. Please call (970)
479-2356, Telephone for the Hearing Impaired, for information.
Community Development Department
Published October 19, 2012, in the Vail Daily.
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TOWN OF VA P� PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION
October 22, 2012
1:00Pm
TOWN COUNCIL CHAMBERS / PUBLIC WELCOME
75 S. Frontage Road - Vail, Colorado, 81657
"Order and times of agenda items are subject to change"
20 minutes
A request for the review of amendments to a conditional use permit, pursuant to Section 12-16-
10, Amendment Procedures, Vail Town Code, to allow for the redevelopment of the Vail Golf
Course Club House (i.e. accessory buildings, permanent and temporary, and uses customarily
incidental and accessory to permitted or conditional outdoor recreational uses, and necessary for
the operation thereof, including restrooms, drinking fountains, bleachers, concessions, storage
buildings, and similar uses), located at 1775 Sunburst Drive/Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3 and
Unplatted Parcels (a complete metes and bounds description is available at the Community
Development Department Office), and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120036)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
20 minutes
2. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council for a zone district boundary
amendment, pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, to allow for a rezoning of
the Vail Golf Course parking lot from the General Use District to the Outdoor Recreation District,
located at 1775 Sunburst Drive/Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3, and setting forth details in regard
thereto. (PEC120037)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
20 minutes
3. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council on prescribed regulation amendments,
pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, to allow for amendments to Section
12-8B-7, Height, Vail Town Code, to increase the allowable building height within the Outdoor
Recreation District, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120039)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
45 minutes
4. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council, pursuant to Section 12-3-7,
Amendment, Vail Town Code, for prescribed regulations amendments to Title 12, Zoning
Regulations, and Title 14, Development Standards, Vail Town Code, to require restoration of
watercourses and riparian areas, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120011)
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Rachel Dimond
5 minutes
5. A report to the Planning and Environmental Commission on the administrator's approval of an
amendment to an existing conditional use permit, pursuant to Section 12-16-10, Amendment
Procedures, Vail Town Code, to allow for the continued use of a private parking lot, located at
934 South Frontage Road/Unplatted, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120034)
Applicant: Vail Resorts Development Company, represented by the Mauriello Planning Group
Planner: Warren Campbell
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6. A request for the review of conditional use permits, pursuant to Section 12-9C-3, Conditional
Uses, Vail Town Code, for a healthcare facility and a public building and grounds, to allow for the
redevelopment of the Town of Vail municipal site with a medical research, rehabilitation, and
office building and a municipal office building located at 75 and 111 South Frontage Road West/
Unplatted, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120012)
Applicant: Vail MOB, LLC, represented by Triumph Development and Town of Vail, represented
by Consilium Partners, Vail
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Table to November 12, 2012
7. A request for the review of a variance from Section 12-6G-6, Setbacks, Vail Town Code,
pursuant to Chapter 12-17, Variances, Vail Town Code, to allow for the construction of a garage
within the setbacks, located at 4192 Columbine Way/Lots 25 & 26, Bighorn Terrace, and setting
forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120027)
Applicant: Anne Upton, represented by Pierce Architects
Planner: Bill Gibson
ACTION: Table to November 12, 2012
8. A request for the review of a conditional use permit, pursuant to Section 12-71-5, Conditional
Uses, Generally (On all levels of a building or outside of a building), Vail Town Code, to allow for
a ski lift and tow (gondola), located at 934 South Frontage Road/ Unplatted, and a request for a
conditional use permit, pursuant to 12-8B-3, Conditional Uses, Vail Town Code to allow for a ski
lift and tow (gondola), located at 830 Forest Road/Unplatted and setting forth details in regard
thereto. (PEC120035)
Applicant: Vail Resorts Development Company, represented by the Mauriello Planning Group
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Table to December 10, 2012
9. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council for a prescribed regulations
amendment, pursuant to 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, to allow for amendments to Title
12, Zoning Regulations, to amend the development review process, and setting forth details in
regard thereto. (PEC120010)
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Rachel Dimond
ACTION: Table to December 10, 2012
10. Approval of October 8, 2012 minutes
11. Information Update
12. Adjournment
The applications and information about the proposals are available for public inspection during regular
office hours at the Town of Vail Community Development Department, 75 South Frontage Road. The
public is invited to attend the project orientation and the site visits that precede the public hearing in the
Town of Vail Community Development Department. Please call (970) 479-2138 for additional
information.
Sign language interpretation is available upon request with 24-hour notification. Please call (970)
479-2356, Telephone for the Hearing Impaired, for information.
Community Development Department
Published October 19, 2012, in the Vail Daily.
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Ad Name: 8502001A
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20 minutes
1 A requesl for the review of amendments to
conditional use permit, pursuant to Section
12-16-10, Amendment Procedures, Vail Town
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Code, to allow for the redevelopment of the Vail
PROOF OF PUBLICATION
Golf Course Club House (i e accessory buildings,
permanent and temporary, and uses customarily
incidental and accessory to permitted or ion-
STATE OF COLORADO
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operation thereof, including ions, storage
fountains, bleachers, concessions, storage build -
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cels (a complete metes and bounds description is
available m the Community Development Depart -
men l Office), and selling forth details in regard
thereto. (PEC120036)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
I, Pam Boyd, do solemnly swear that I am a qualified
20 minutes
2 A requesl for recommendation to the Vail Town
Council for a zoo ne district boundary amendment, ,
representative o The Eagle Valley Enterprise, that e
pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vailnd Town
Code, to allow for a rezoning of the Vail Golf
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Course parking lot from the General Use District to
same weekly newspaper printed, whole or part and
Sunbgsfore/Lot3 Sunburst Filing 3, and se
in the County of Eagle, State of Colorado, and
ling forth details in regard thereto- (PEC120037)
Applicant Town ofVail, represented by Greg Hall
published
Planner: Bill Gibson
has a circulation therein; that said newspaper
20 minutes
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general
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has been published continuously and uninterruptedly
Vail Town
Code, to allow for amendments to Section 12-8B- n
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Height, Vail Town Code, to increase the allowable
in said County of Eagle for a period of more than fifty-
building height within the r Recreation Dis-
trict, and selling forth detailstails in regard thereto -
(PEC120039)
first
t Town ofVail, represented by Greg Hall
two consecutive weeks next prior to the publication
p an'nerB I Gibson
the legal that
45 minutes
of annexed notice or advertisement,
advertisement; Said
Council, pursuant to Section 1'2-3,7,'Amen dmen
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newspnewspaper has been admitted to the United States mails'
aper
Vail Town Code, for prescribed regulations
ame s to Title l2, Zoning Regulations,
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Title 14, Development Standards, Vail Town Code,
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as a periodical under the provisions of the Act of March 3
o require restoration of watercourses and riparian
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areas, and selling forth details in regard thereto
1879, or any amendments thereof, and that said newspaper
Applicant Town Dimond
5 minutes
is a weekly newspaper duly qualified for publishing legal
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notices and advertisements within the meaning of the
5 A report to the Planning and Environmental
nditio approval of an
Commission on theadministratorexisting
amendment to existing conditional use permit,
Amendment
pursuant to Vail on Code,
Procedures, Vail Town Code, to allow for the
laws the State Colorado.
continued use of a private parking lot, located at
934 South Frontage Road/Unplatted, and selling
of of
forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120034)
Applicant: Vail Resorts Development Company,
represented by the Marinello Planning Group
Planner: Warren Campbell
That the annexed legal notice or advertisement was
6 A request for the review of conditional use
permits, pursuant to Section 12-9C-3, Conditional
published in the regular and enure issue of every number
Uses, Vail Town Code, for a healthcare facility and
a public building and grounds, to allow for the re-
development of the Town of Vail municipal site with
of said weekly newspaper for the period of consecutive
a medical research, rehabilitation, and office
building and a municipal office building located at
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insertions; that the first
75 and 111 South Frontage Road West/ Unplatted,
at ng forth details in regard thereto
and publication of said notice was
(PEG; 012)
in the issue newspaper dated 10/19/2012 that
Applicant Vail MOB, LLC, represented by Triumph
of Vail, represented by
of said and
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ers, Vail
the last publication of said notice was dated 10/19/2012
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Table to November 12, 2012
in the issue of said newspaper.
7 A request for the review of a variance from
Section 12-6G-6, Setbacks, Vail Town Code,
pursuant to Chapter 12-17, Variances, Vail Town
Code, to allow for the construction of a garage
within the setbacks, located at 4192 Columbine
Way/Lots 25 & 26, Bighorn Terrace, and selling
In I have
forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120027)
witness whereof, ere unto Set my an i5' ay,
10/26/2012•
AppllcanLAnne Upton, represented by Pierce
Architects
PlannerGibson
ACTION: Table to November 12, 2012
.A, - qm,sl for the review of a conditional use
permi, pursuant to Section 12-71-5, Conditional
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Uses, Genrally (On all levels of a building or
outside of al building), Vail Town Code, to allow for
a ski lift and low (gondola), located at 934 South
Pam Boyd
Frontage Road/ Unplalled, and a request for a
conditional use permit, pursuant to 12-813-3,
Conditional Uses, Vail Town Code to allow for a ski
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lift and low (gondola), located at 830 Forest
General Manager/Publisher/Editor
He and selling forth details in regard
thereto (PEC120035)
Applicant Vail Resorts Development Company,
Valley Enterprise
Planner Warrted en Campbell Marinello Planning Group
repreEagle Campbell
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ACTION: Table [o December 10, 2012
9 A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town
Subscribed and sworn to before me, a notary public in
Council for a prescribed regulations amendment,
toralloow'foramendments to'T le 12, Zoe ng
Regulations, to amend the development review
and for the County of Eagle, State of Colorado this day
SPEC;zoo;o)s°"i"gf°"hd°'ai'si"r°gard'h°r°'°-
10/26/2012.
Applicant - Town of Vail
Planner Rachel Dimond
ACTION: Table to December 10, 2012
10 Approval of October 8.2012 minutes
11.Informalion Updale
12 Adjournment
The applications and information about the
Pamela J. Schultz, Notary Public
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proposals are available for public inspection during
office hours at the Town of Vail Community
Development Department, 75 South Frontage
Road. The public is invited to attend the project
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and the site visits precede the
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request with 24-hour notification. Please call (970)
479-2356, Telephone for the Hearing Impaired, for
information.
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(850200hod 1) October 19, 2012, in the Vail Daily
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PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL
COMMISSION
October 22, 2012
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TOW N COUNCI L CHAMBERS
/PUBLIC WELCOME
75 S. Frontage Road - Vail, Colorado, 81657
"Order and times of agenda items
are subjectto change"
20 minutes
1.A recusal for the review of am end me nts to a
-ondilio nal use pps mit pursuant to Seolion
12-16-1 D, Am endinsnl Pracoduros, Vail Tawn
Code, to alloy✓ for lho rodov&lop moot of tho Vail
Coll Course Club House jie. ar ory buildings,
perm ant and temporary, and_1customarily
ncidenl of
and arressory Ic permi feed or rendieian-
aloutdoorrecraalionaluses, and necessaryforthe
operation thereof, includ'mg restroom", drinking
fountains, bl&,_hers, concessions, starmo buil_-
Ings, and similar us_sj. lo_nted ,t 1775unburst
Drive/Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3 and Unplatted Par-
cels (a complete metas and bounds description is
iailable ae the Com munily Develapri Depart-
m
enl Office and setting forth details in regard
thereto. (PE 120036)
A pllcantTov✓n of Vail, ropressntod by Grog Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
20 minutes
2A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town
Council for a zone district boundary amendment,
pursuant to Scotian 12-3-7, Amsndmenl, Vail Tawn
Code, to allow for a rezoning of the Vail Golf
Course parking lolfmm the General Use District to
the Oulcloar Rocr&,lion District, located at 1775
Sunburst Drivo/Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3, and set-
ting forth details in regard thereto. (PE 120037)
Art, ant Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
P aneer: Bill Gibson
20 minutes
3.A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town
Council on prescribed regulation amendments,
pursuant to Jection 123-7, Amendment, Vall Tavin
Cod&, to allow for euro ndmenls to Section 12-85-7,
Height, Vail Town Code. to increase the allowable
rutting height within the Outdoor Recreation Dis-
tnol, and selling forth dslails in regard Ihsralo.
(PE0I2DD'39)
ApplicantTov✓n of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
45 minutes
4.A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town
Councl 1. pursuant to Section 123-7, Amendment,
Vail Tawn Cods, or prescribed regulations
endmentsto Tille 12, Zoning Regulations, and
Title 14, Development Standards, Vail Town Code,
to r&quite reslaratian ofwatercou isos and riparian
and sctung forth dotails in royard thortoo.
(PEC 12:1611)
Applicant Town of Vail
Planner: Rachel Dimond
5 minutes
5.A report to the Planning and Enviro n msnlal
aur Commission on the administrators approval 01 an
lend fent to an-iisling co"dlllonal use psrmll,
p 'it to Section 12-16-1 D, Amendment
Procedures. Vail Ton' Cods. to allow for the
ontlnueI use of a private pparking lot located at
934 South Frontage Road%Unplelled, and sailing
forth details, in regard Ihereto. (PEC120D'3A1
Appl ea nt:Vail Resorts Development Company,
represented by the Mauriello Planning Group
Plannor'. W arron Campbell
6.A request for the review of on d l tional us
p rmil s, pursuant to Section 12-9 C3, Conditional
Uses, Vail Town Code, far a healthcare facility and
a public building and grounds. to alloy✓ tot the re-
1iitoyym l fth Town fV nlclpal l= with
odlcal rch, or bit t t n� d ffico
bulltling and a municipal office building located at
75 and 111 South Frontage Road WesV Unplatled,
and setting forth details in regard Ili
(PE012DD12)
Applicant. Vail MOB LLC, rpresented by Triumph
Dovelop m&nt and Town of Vail, reprtoo ntod by
Consilium Pattnors, Vail
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Table to November 12. 2012
7.A request for the review of a variance from
Seclioit 12-6G-6, Setbacks, Vail Town Code,
pursuant to Chaptor 12-17, Variances, Vail Town
Coda, to allow for the construction of a garage
within the setbacks, located al 4192 Columbine
Way/Lots 25 8 20. Bighorn Terrace, and setting
forth dslails in regard Ihereto. (PEC12D027)
AppllcantAn ne Upton, repre se ntsd by Pierce
Architects
Planner'. Bill Gibson
ACTION: Table to November 12. 2012
8.A raqu eel for Ihs rsvi so,of a conditional usa
,or,
pureua nt to Sacti on 12-71-5. Condilmnal
Usss, Generally (On all levels of a building or
Allsicle of a building), Vail Town Cocle. to allow for
ski lift and tow ig ondolal l"'T at 934 South
Frontage Road/ In acted, and a request for a
ondltlonal use permit, pursuant 10 12 -BB -3,
Conditia nal Usss, Vail Town Code to allow for a ski
lift and low (gondola), located at 830 Forest
Road/UnPlall" and selling forth details in regard
dictate 1,PEC120035)
Applicant: Vail Resorts Development Company,
represented by the Mauriello Planning Group
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Table to December 10, 2012
9.A request brarsgoirmci dution to the Vail Town
Council for a proscribed rogLi atIons amendmont
pursuant to 12-3-7, Amondmonl, Vall Tovm Code,
to allow for amend meets to Tltla 12. Zoning
Regulations, to amend the development review
process, and sailing forth details in regard thereto.
(PE012DO10)
A��pllcant. Town of Vail
Plannor'. Rachel Dimond
ACTION: Table to December 10, 2012
10. Approval of October 8, 2012 minutes
11.Inbrnialion Update
12. Adjournment
The applications and information about the
proposal ✓,liable for public inspsrlion during
regular office hours at the Town of Vail Comm unity
Develo sol De,utfl nl, 75 Soulh Frontage
Road. he public is ice yid to arcond the projt
oleo
ration and the sots that prated& the
p ebllc hearing in the Town of Voll Community
4 atop fent Department. Please call (97G)
4]92138 for addilionel information.
Sign long uags rote rip relation Is available upon
rcquestwrh 24-hour notification. Incase _,111970)
479-2356. Telephone for the Haring Impairod, for
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Communily Dsvelaprnenl Department.
Published October 19, 2012, in the Vail Daily.
(8502901)
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TOWN OF VAIL9
PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION
October 22, 2012
1:OOpm
TOWN COUNCIL CHAMBERS / PUBLIC WELCOME
75 S. Frontage Road - Vail, Colorado, 81657
"Order and times of agenda items are subject to change"
MEMBERS PRESENT
Susan Bird
Luke Cartin
Pam Hopkins
Michael Kurz
Bill Pierce
Henry Pratt
John Rediker
MEMBERS ABSENT
20 minutes
A request for the review of amendments to a conditional use permit, pursuant to Section 12-16-
10, Amendment Procedures, Vail Town Code, to allow for the redevelopment of the Vail Golf
Course Club House (i.e. accessory buildings, permanent and temporary, and uses customarily
incidental and accessory to permitted or conditional outdoor recreational uses, and necessary for
the operation thereof, including restrooms, drinking fountains, bleachers, concessions, storage
buildings, and similar uses), located at 1775 Sunburst Drive/Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3 and
Unplatted Parcels (a complete metes and bounds description is available at the Community
Development Department Office), and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120036)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
ACTION: Tabled to November 12, 2012
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 6-0-1 (Pierce recused)
Bill Pierce recused himself from items 1, 2, and 3 on the agenda due to conflict of interest. He
disclosed that he is the architect for the temporary clubhouse buildings project and is a member
of the Fall Ridge home owners association that has voiced its support for the clubhouse remodel.
Commissioner Pratt disclosed that he has had previous clients that are involved in the law suit,
but he has not been in contact with them nor has any financial interest in these applications.
Therefore, he will participate in the hearings for these applications.
Commissioner Hopkins disclosed that she is currently working on the Vail Library renovation
which is a Town project.
Matt Mire, Town Attorney, asked Pam Hopkins if she had any financial interest in these
applications.
Commissioner Hopkins stated that she does not have any financial interest in these applications,
she can be impartial, and will participate in the hearing of these application.
Bill Gibson provided an overview of the applications and the desired outcomes of the hearing
today.
Tom Braun, Braun and Associates, representing the applicant, gave a presentation on the
existing and proposed uses in the club house, the applications that have been submitted, and
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the plan documents that will be submitted
Pedro Campos, Zehren and Associates, representing the applicant, gave a presentation on the
site and design as contemplated. He added that his presentation would include a highlight of
those areas that have been addressed in order to respond to neighbor concerns. He discussed
the various elements of the proposal including the clubhouse building and patio, parking lot,
driving range netting, golf skills teaching area in the current location of the 18th green, etc.
Tom Braun concluded the presentation by highlighting the request for a conditional use permit to
apply to a defined area adjacent to the club house. He covered the items he expects to provide
within an anticipated operational plan in conjunction with the conditional use permit. He provided
an image depicting the allowable and proposed building height. He discussed parking for the
proposed uses and an anticipated parking management plan for the facility.
Commissioner Kurz stated that he felt the bus turn around would be beneficial for what he
believes will be an increase in shuttle traffic to the site. He felt that an increase in building height
is appropriate. He asked what makes this facility so unique that notification would be sent to
adjacent property owners about events when notice is not sent to neighbors about events held at
Donovan pavilion? He clarified that what is being proposed does not appear to be an event
center, but instead it appears to be a banquet room similar to those found at other golf courses.
Commissioner Bird recommended adding a seating area on the western elevation of the building
for the Nordic users.
Commissioner Rediker asked what other properties in town are currently zoned Outdoor
Recreation District. He wants to understand the potential impacts of uniformly increasing
building height in this zone district and the impacts of amending height by a different method.
Bill Gibson identified some of the other properties currently zoned Outdoor Recreation District
and stated that a map of all the properties in this district would be provided at a future hearing.
Commissioner Cartin agreed with Commissioner Redikers concerns about understanding the
impacts to other properties if building height was amended in the Outdoor Recreation District.
He asked about the potential of rezoning other portions of the golf course that are currently not
zoned Outdoor Recreation District. He requested that the proposed outdoor lighting details also
be presented at a future hearing.
Commissioner Pratt asked for the background on how the applicant arrived at the proposed 200
person banquet size?
Tom Braun stated that it was a function of many variables including recommendations from the
recreation sub -committee. He noted that a 200 person banquet room could accommodate most
cocktail parties and weddings.
Commissioner Pratt noted concerns that the banquet room of the clubhouse, plus pre -function
areas, plus the patio and lawn areas could accommodate a stand-up event much larger than 200
people.
Tom Braun noted that these are all one combined use area and are not intended as cumulative
use areas.
Bill Gibson entered the additional written public comment received after publication of the staff
memorandum into the record.
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Commissioner Pratt asked that a digital copy of this additional public comment be emailed to the
Commissioners.
Sam Maslak, resident of Sunburst Drive, stated that he believes the project is a massive
increase in scale that is out of proportion. He highlighted the incompatibility of the proposal with
the neighborhood since there will be a five -fold increase in meeting room space size.
Additionally, today the meeting room is only used occasionally, but it will be used four times per
week as proposed. He is concerned that this project will result in tents, bleachers, and port -a -
potties outside the clubhouse. He is concerned that the additional 11 parking spaces being
proposed will not be enough. He noted that the current parking is insufficient and today the lot is
full.
Gretchen Busse resident of Sunburst Drive and representing various Golf Course Townhome
owners, stated that it was felt that the increase in activity was inappropriate. She supports a new
clubhouse, Nordic center, and grill; but the proposal expands and embellishes the clubhouse too
much. She inquired as to where the snow would be stored on the site. She noted that parking
on the south end of the parking lot is too close to existing houses.
Pedro Campos noted that snow management and removal would be addressed.
Gretchen Busse identified concerns about traffic and noise and current parking overflow. She
highlighted safety concerns when parking occurs on Sunburst Drive. She expressed concern
about changes to the plans for the 18th green from an event pavilion, to a parking lot, and now to
a putting area on the site. What assurance does she have that the 18th green will be preserved.
Art Abplanalp, attorney representing ten (10) property owners stated that his clients support a
remodel of the club house, but that is not what is being proposed. He provided a comparison of
existing meeting room areas and the proposed increases. He believes this proposal is for an
event center with a golf shop and not for a golf course clubhouse. He spoke to why he believes
the conditional use permit does apply to the 18th green. If the 18th green is relocated, he believes
a blank check would be given to the Town Council for a future pavilion if a conditional use permit
includes an area adjacent to the club house. His clients believe the parking lot rezoning is
appropriate, the text amendment for height could be appropriate if it does not result in an
additional building story, but more details are needed. He recommended the any additional
building height only apply to roof elements or should only apply to golf course clubhouses. He
referenced that 80 golfers and homeowners object and have sent the town letters. His clients
object to a conditional use permit that will turn the golf club house into a mini Donovan Park
Pavilion. He suggested a redesign to have the banquet facility to the north side of the building
above the existing cart barn so it will be further from the residential neighbors. The objections of
the community and a proposed alternative plan submitted by the neighbors have not yet been
responded to by the applicant. He noted his clients concerns about the existing overflow parking
and what will occur if events with 200 people are allowed. He does not believe these guests will
take buses or shuttles. He asked that the Planning and Environmental Commission send a
message to the Town Council regarding the promises made prior to the election and to look at
the project again to ensure to that there will be a world class golf course clubhouse and not an
accessory to an event center.
Joe Batcheller, resident of a Golf Course Townhomes inquired as to improvements in the plan
for pedestrian and bicycle user in the area. He suggested that a separate sidewalk, striped bike
lane, shared bicycle markings, and methods for controlling vehicular speeds. He also asked
what the logic was behind keeping the existing building and foundation. He compared saving the
existing foundation to putting a new Lexus on top of an old Pinto chassis.
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Laurie Mullen, member of the Vail Economic Council and Vail Local Marketing District, and
owner of West Vail Liquor Mart noted that the proposed clubhouse will serve the same purposes
as it does today, but with an upgraded building. She stated that the proposed remodel will better
serve locals and visitors, and requested that the Commission not allow a few neighbors to block
the project. She stated that hole 18 is not iconic, instead what is iconic is the view of the Gore
Range from the clubhouse.
Skip Thurnaurer, Vail Local Marketing District, spoke to the use of the conference center fund to
meet the initial goal of the tax which was to increase stays and visitation in Vail. Use of the
conference center funds to renovate the clubhouse was the first choice of their members. He
noted that the existing clubhouse is not of the world class of Vail and an improved aesthetic will
be good in general and good for the neighbors.
Alfred Montano, representing 1925 Sunburst Drive, read a letter from the property owner Rufino
Vigil outlining his objection to the relocation of the 18th green and converting the clubhouse into
an event center. The letter was made a part of the record.
Tom Braun, spoke to the numerous community open houses and Town Council work sessions
which have involved the public. He noted that the applicant has made efforts to address
comments that have been heard, but it may just be that the solutions are not acceptable to the
neighbors. He spoke to several specific questions raised. He clarified that the retaining wall and
parking spaces on the south end of the parking lot exist today. He said they will speak to the
reasoning for locating the banquet room and patio on the south side of the building and not
above the existing cart barn at a later hearing. He spoke to the ability of the applicant to remove
the defined conditional use permit area as it was felt that it addressed a concern of the neighbors
and would clearly define the impacts of the uses being proposed.
Commissioner Kurz spoke to his concern about the neighbors feeling they haven't been involved
in the process, even though public input has been allowed and continues to be allowed. He
supports expanding the conditional use permit area outside the building. The parking
management plan will be important, and as a biker of Sunburst Drive, he understands the traffic
concerns that have been raised.
Commissioner Rediker believes the proposed conditional use permit area provides the additional
control on the operation of the clubhouse that this project warrants. He likes the idea of a
parking management plan and spoke to making shuttles a requirement for certain events and
uses. He spoke to the additional information that is needed for considering any building height
increases. He supports the amendment of the conditional use permit to achieve the goals of the
project.
Commissioner Bird stated that she agreed with Commissioner Rediker. She stated that parking
is a concern and spoke to how overflow skier parking in this lot disrupts Nordic and event
parking.
Commissioner Hopkins, stated that this is her first presentation project and she added that she
believes it is important for the Commission to balance the concerns of neighbors and take into
account negative impacts to property values. With regard to the conditional use permit can the
owners bring forward suggestions on noise, lighting, hours, etc. to make the project a better
neighbor? She asked if the clubhouse patio gets adequate west sunlight for wedding events.
She asked why the existing building foundation was being saved and why the 18th green was
being relocated. She agrees with the concerns about bicycles and traffic, and asked if an
alternative bike path route was available.
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Commissioner Cartin agreed with the concerns raised about pedestrians and bicycles. He
commented that the relocation of the 18th green is separate from the clubhouse remodel. The
relocation of the 18th is under the purview of the Vail Recreation District and not a matter for the
Commission. He supports rezoning the parking lot to the Outdoor Recreation District. The
upcoming operations plan and parking management plan are his key concerns.
Commissioner Kurz commented that is was good to hear Laurie Mullen's perspective during
public comment. He spoke to the increased revenue from the project and a project such as this
will be beneficial to providing continued high level of services. He reminded everyone that this is
a public golf course and not a private country club, there are no county club rights associated
with the houses along the golf course, and the golf course needs to be managed for the benefit
of the whole town.
Commissioner Pratt noted that the proposed parking lot configuration appears well thought out.
He respects the concerns of the neighbors and stated that it appears suspicious that the 18th
green is being relocated which raises concerns that tents will be put there in the future. He
believes rezoning the parking lot is a no-brainer. He does not believe the increase in building
height should be zone district wide, but instead should be limited in scope. The height should be
kept low and 33 feet should not be expected because the neighboring residential allows 33 feet.
He is concerned about providing adequate parking and increasing the landscaping buffer
between the parking lot and the first home adjacent. He is also concerned about bike and traffic.
He also concerned that requiring the use of shuttles for events will not be very guest friendly.
20 minutes
2. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council for a zone district boundary
amendment, pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, to allow for a rezoning of
the Vail Golf Course parking lot from the General Use District to the Outdoor Recreation District,
located at 1775 Sunburst Drive/Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3, and setting forth details in regard
thereto. (PEC120037)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
ACTION: Tabled to November 12, 2012
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 6-0-1 (Pierce recused)
20 minutes
3. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council on prescribed regulation amendments,
pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, to allow for amendments to Section
12-8B-7, Height, Vail Town Code, to increase the allowable building height within the Outdoor
Recreation District, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120039)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
ACTION: Tabled to November 12, 2012
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 6-0-1 (Pierce recused)
45 minutes
4. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council, pursuant to Section 12-3-7,
Amendment, Vail Town Code, for prescribed regulations amendments to Title 12, Zoning
Regulations, and Title 14, Development Standards, Vail Town Code, to require restoration of
watercourses and riparian areas, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120011)
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Rachel Dimond
ACTION: Recommendation of approval with modifications
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MOTION: Rediker SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 6-1-0 (Pierce opposed)
1. That the proposed language be modified to reflect the changes discussed in the public
hearing and made as a part of the motion. The applicant shall forward the revised
language to the Vail Town Council.
Rachel gave a presentation per the staff memorandum. She discussed the challenges of having
private improvements removed from public land. The proposed language provides staff an
additional tool to get improvements removed and restoration of public property.
Commissioner Kurz inquired as to the impacts of properties some distance from the creek that
drain to the creek. He was supportive of the proposed language and suggested becoming more
aggressive. He added that it appears there needs to bigger hammers provided to staff to affect
the changes. That placement of the creek on the impaired stream list was a flair gun not a red
flag that something needs to be done.
Commissioner Rediker agrees with Kurz and believes that there needs to be greater language to
allow the Town to go after violators of public property. Maybe the language should be expanded
to tents on property or property needing a building permit but not Design Review application. He
made a suggestion regarding the addition of language in subsection A referencing D that the
addition of landscaping on public property is not except from Design Review approval.
Commissioner Bird agrees with Kurz and Rediker. She inquired as to the town's ability to
enforce these regulations on those portions of the stream located outside the Town boundaries
such as in Intermountain.
Rachel Dimond responded that those portions of stream not within the Town boundaries are
under Eagle County jurisdiction and their regulations. She added that in the past the Town has
called the County to bring their attention to concerns and they have typically been addressed.
Commissioner Pratt stated that this applies only to town -owned stream tract. He also inquired as
to the dated for the effect of a one-time exclusion.
Rachel Dimond clarified the one-time exclusion and added that it does not apply to an
application on a property with stream tract encroachments.
Commissioner Cartin thinks this is a good first step, but future regulations need teeth to cause
changes resulting in improved the stream health.
Commissioner Hopkins had nothing to add.
There was no public comment.
Commissioner Rediker made a motion with modifications
Commissioner Pierce spoke to the impact of a singular unit wanting a window in an HOA and the
need to take corrective action before anyone can make an improvement. This was his reason
for voting in opposition as he felt that a single owner should not need to take the corrective
action.
Warren Campbell reminded the Commission that an application by a single unit owner in a multi-
family development had the H.O.A. as a joint applicant.
5 minutes
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5. A report to the Planning and Environmental Commission on the administrator's approval of an
amendment to an existing conditional use permit, pursuant to Section 12-16-10, Amendment
Procedures, Vail Town Code, to allow for the continued use of a private parking lot, located at
934 South Frontage Road/Unplatted, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120034)
Applicant: Vail Resorts Development Company, represented by the Mauriello Planning Group
Planner: Warren Campbell
Warren Campbell summarized the administrative action.
There was no public comment.
There was no Commissioner comment.
6. A request for the review of conditional use permits, pursuant to Section 12-9C-3, Conditional
Uses, Vail Town Code, for a healthcare facility and a public building and grounds, to allow for the
redevelopment of the Town of Vail municipal site with a medical research, rehabilitation, and
office building and a municipal office building located at 75 and 111 South Frontage Road West/
Unplatted, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120012)
Applicant: Vail MOB, LLC, represented by Triumph Development and Town of Vail, represented
by Consilium Partners, Vail
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Tabled to November 12, 2012
MOTION: Cartin SECOND: Rediker VOTE: 7-0-0
7. A request for the review of a variance from Section 12-6G-6, Setbacks, Vail Town Code,
pursuant to Chapter 12-17, Variances, Vail Town Code, to allow for the construction of a garage
within the setbacks, located at 4192 Columbine Way/Lots 25 & 26, Bighorn Terrace, and setting
forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120027)
Applicant: Anne Upton, represented by Pierce Architects
Planner: Bill Gibson
ACTION: Tabled to November 12, 2012
MOTION: Cartin SECOND: Rediker VOTE: 7-0-0
8. A request for the review of a conditional use permit, pursuant to Section 12-71-5, Conditional
Uses, Generally (On all levels of a building or outside of a building), Vail Town Code, to allow for
a ski lift and tow (gondola), located at 934 South Frontage Road/ Unplatted, and a request for a
conditional use permit, pursuant to 12-8B-3, Conditional Uses, Vail Town Code to allow for a ski
lift and tow (gondola), located at 830 Forest Road/Unplatted and setting forth details in regard
thereto. (PEC120035)
Applicant: Vail Resorts Development Company, represented by the Mauriello Planning Group
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Tabled to December 10, 2012
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 7-0-0
9. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council for a prescribed regulations
amendment, pursuant to 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, to allow for amendments to Title
12, Zoning Regulations, to amend the development review process, and setting forth details in
regard thereto. (PEC120010)
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Rachel Dimond
ACTION: Tabled to December 10, 2012
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 7-0-0
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10. Approval of October 8, 2012 minutes
ACTION: Approved
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin
abstained)
11. Information Update
12. Adjournment
ACTION: Approved
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin
VOTE: 4-0-3 (Bird, Rediker, Cartin
VOTE: 7-0-0
The applications and information about the proposals are available for public inspection during regular
office hours at the Town of Vail Community Development Department, 75 South Frontage Road. The
public is invited to attend the project orientation and the site visits that precede the public hearing in the
Town of Vail Community Development Department. Please call (970) 479-2138 for additional
information.
Sign language interpretation is available upon request with 24-hour notification. Please call (970)
479-2356, Telephone for the Hearing Impaired, for information.
Community Development Department
Published October 19, 2012, in the Vail Daily.
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PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION
October 8, 2012 at 1:OOpm
TOWN COUNCIL CHAMBERS / PUBLIC WELCOME
75 S. Frontage Road - Vail, Colorado 81657
"Order and times of agenda items are subject to change"
MEMBERS PRESENT
Luke Cartin
Pam Hopkins
Michael Kurz
Henry Pratt
MEMBERS ABSENT
Susan Bird
John Rediker
Bill Pierce
20 minutes
A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council for a major amendment to a Special
Development District, pursuant to Section 12-9A-10, Amendment Procedures, Vail Town Code,
to amend Special Development District No. 34, Flaum - The Valley Phase V, located at 1521,
1601, and 1631 Buffehr Creek Road/Lots A, B and C, The Valley — Phase V Subdivision, to allow
the employee housing requirements of the Special Development District to be met off-site
through the provisions of Section 12-13-5, Employee Housing Unit Deed Restriction Exchange
Program, Vail Town Code, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120033)
Applicant: James and Romma Flaum, represented by the Mauriello Planning Group
Planner: Bill Gibson
ACTION: Recommendation of approval with modifications
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 4-0-0
Bill Gibson gave a presentation per the staff memorandum.
Commissioner Kurz inquired as to when the proposed EHU exchange would occur and where it
might be.
Dominic Mauriello responded that the applicants would likely request an exchange in the next
year. At this time they did not know where the new EHU would be located, but it would comply
with the exchange rates outlined in the Town Code. He continued by presenting a power point
presentation on the location, history, and the elements of the application.
Commissioner Pratt inquired as to how the EHU garage was calculated into the proposal.
Dominic Mauriello clarified that that the proposed GRFA limits would accommodate incorporating
the EHU and the EHU garage in the existing house.
Commissioner Cartin inquired as to timing of accepting the new EHU and vacating the current
deed restriction.
Dominic Mauriello explained the simultaneous nature of these actions.
Commissioner Kurz made a motion to forward a recommendation of approval with the
modifications identified in the staff memorandum.
There was no public comment.
2. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council, pursuant to Section 12-3-7,
Amendment, Vail Town Code, for prescribed regulations amendments to Title 12, Zoning
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Regulations, and Title 14, Development Standards, Vail Town Code, to require restoration of
watercourses and riparian areas, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120011)
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Rachel Dimond
ACTION: Tabled to October 22, 2012
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 4-0-0
3. A request for the review of conditional use permits, pursuant to Section 12-9C-3, Conditional
Uses, Vail Town Code, for a healthcare facility and a public building and grounds, to allow for the
redevelopment of the Town of Vail municipal site with a medical research, rehabilitation, and
office building and a municipal office building located at 75 and 111 South Frontage Road West/
Unplatted, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120012)
Applicant: Vail MOB, LLC, represented by Triumph Development and Town of Vail, represented
by Consilium Partners, Vail
Planner: Warren Campbell
ACTION: Tabled to October 22, 2012
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 4-0-0
4. A request for the review of a variance from Section 12-6G-6, Setbacks, Vail Town Code,
pursuant to Chapter 12-17, Variances, Vail Town Code, to allow for the construction of a garage
within the setbacks, located at 4192 Columbine Way/Lots 25 & 26, Bighorn Terrace, and setting
forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120027)
Applicant: Anne Upton, represented by Pierce Architects
Planner: Bill Gibson
ACTION: Tabled to October 22, 2012
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 4-0-0
5. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council for a prescribed regulations
amendment, pursuant to 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, to allow for amendments to Title
12, Zoning Regulations, to amend the development review process, and setting forth details in
regard thereto. (PEC120010)
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Rachel Dimond
ACTION: Tabled to October 22, 2012
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 4-0-0
6. A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council on prescribed regulation amendments
to Section 12-13-5, Employee Housing Unit Deed Restriction Exchange Program, Vail Town
Code, pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, to allow for amendments to the
employee housing unit deed restriction exchange program review process, and setting forth
details in regard thereto. (PEC120017)
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Bill Gibson
ACTION: Tabled to November 26, 2012
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Cartin VOTE: 4-0-0
7. Approval of September 24, 2012 minutes
ACTION: Approved
MOTION: Kurz SECOND: Hopkins VOTE: 3-0-1 (Cartin abstained)
8. Information Update
9. Adjournment
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ACTION: Approved
MOTION: Cartin SECOND: Kurz VOTE: 4-0-0
The applications and information about the proposals are available for public inspection during regular
office hours at the Town of Vail Community Development Department, 75 South Frontage Road. The
public is invited to attend the project orientation and the site visits that precede the public hearing in the
Town of Vail Community Development Department. Please call (970) 479-2138 for additional information.
Sign language interpretation is available upon request with 24-hour notification. Please call (970) 479-
2356, Telephone for the Hearing Impaired, for information.
Community Development Department
Published October 5, 2012 in the Vail Daily.
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TO: Planning and Environmental Commission
FROM: Community Development Department
DATE: October 22, 2012
SUBJECT: A request for the review of amendments to a conditional use permit, pursuant to
Section 12-16-10, Amendment Procedures, Vail Town Code, to allow for the
redevelopment of the Vail Golf Course Club House (i.e. accessory buildings,
permanent and temporary, and uses customarily incidental and accessory to
permitted or conditional outdoor recreational uses, and necessary for the
operation thereof, including restrooms, drinking fountains, bleachers,
concessions, storage buildings, and similar uses), located at 1775 Sunburst
Drive/Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3 and Unplatted Parcels (a complete metes and
bounds description is available at the Community Development Department
Office), and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120036)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council for a zone district
boundary amendment, pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code,
to allow for a rezoning of the Vail Golf Course parking lot from the General Use
District to the Outdoor Recreation District, located at 1775 Sunburst Drive/Lot 3,
Sunburst Filing 3, and setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120037)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council on prescribed
regulation amendments, pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town
Code, to allow for amendments to Section 12-8B-7, Height, Vail Town Code, to
increase the allowable building height within the Outdoor Recreation District, and
setting forth details in regard thereto. (PEC120039)
Applicant: Town of Vail, represented by Greg Hall
Planner: Bill Gibson
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Bill Gibson
I. SUMMARY
The purpose of this hearing if for a work session to allow the applicant, the Town of Vail,
to introduce a proposal to renovate the Vail Golf Course clubhouse. The applicant has
submitted three separate, but related, development applications for the Planning and
Environmental Commission's review:
Zone district boundary amendment to rezone the golf course parking lot from the
General Use (GU) District to the Outdoor Recreation (OR) District.
Prescribed regulation amendments to allow building heights of up to 33 feet for
sloping roofs in the Outdoor Recreation (OR) District.
Conditional use permit amendments to allow for the redevelopment of the Vail
Golf Course Club House.
For the purposes of this hearing, the Community Development Department
recommends that the Planning and Environmental Commission reviews these three
related items concurrently. Final action on the proposed rezoning, prescribed regulation
amendment, and conditional use permit amendment applications will be requested at a
future public hearing.
The Community Development Department recommends that the Planning and
Environmental Commission listens to the applicant's presentation, asks questions, and
continues the hearing of these items to its November 12, 2012, meeting for further
review.
II. DESCRIPTION OF THE REQUEST
The applicant, Town of Vail, is proposing to renovate the Vail Golf Course clubhouse.
This proposal involves three development applications subject to Planning and
Environmental Commission review:
Zone district boundary amendment to rezone the golf course parking lot from the
General Use (GU) District to the Outdoor Recreation (OR) District.
Prescribed regulation amendments to allow building heights of up to 33 feet for
sloping roofs in the Outdoor Recreation (OR) District.
Conditional use permit amendments to allow for the redevelopment of the Vail
Golf Course clubhouse.
Based upon the applicant's request (Attachment B), the proposed renovation of the golf
course club house includes the following:
"• Dedicated banquet room with a capacity for 200 people
• Pre -convene space sufficient to support the banquet room
• The common areas, restrooms, elevator and stairs will be shared throughout
the building, however there will be separate entrances for the banquet room and
the recreation uses
• A grill/bar is sized for +/--40 people plus outdoor/deck space
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• A kitchen is sized to serve the grill and a separate "warming kitchen" space for
the banquet space.
• Arrival to Golf/ pro shop and Nordic space should be placed at the parking lot
level
• Project design that provides for both a winter operation plan and a summer
operation plan and any use of the cart barn in the winter should present a
finished quality expected for Vail guests
• The separation of uses and enhancement of circulation throughout site and
within the building
• Locate golf course finish area on the east side of the building in order to
encourage golfers to exit through the grill/pro shop and to clarify circulation on
the front side of the building
• Maintain approximate existing square footages while increasing the efficiency
and functionality of the building
• Two-story tall (4 level) building
• Reuse of as much of the existing building structure is critical to maintain the
original project budget."
To clarify, the three subject development applications have no bearing on whether the
18th hole will be realigned/reconfigured or if the Hole #18 green or tee boxes will be
relocated. The decision to move Hole #18 was made by the property owner, the Vail
Town Council, based upon safety concerns and other factors not relevant to the three
development applications before the Planning and Environmental Commission.
A vicinity map (Attachment A), the applicant's request (Attachment B), and written public
comment (Attachment C) have been attached for review and inclusion in the record.
III. BACKGROUND
On November 8, 2011, the Town of Vail electorate approved ballot question #1 which
stated:
"Without increasing taxes, shall the Town of Vail use the remainder of the one
and one-half percent lodging tax revenues and one-half percent sales tax
revenues collected from January 1, 2003 through December 31, 2005 to fund the
following projects that will promote recreation, promote tourism and support the
economy in the Town of Vail:
Expansion and improvement of the clubhouse at the Vail Golf Course and Nordic
Center, including multi -use community space,-
Field
pace,
Field expansion and restroom renovation at the Ford Park Sports Complex, and
Ford Amphitheater improvements, including outdoor seating and restroom
improvements?"
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On April 16, 2012, the Town of Vail (golf course property owner), in cooperation with the
Vail Recreation District (golf course operator), submitted a final plat application and a
rezoning application intended to facilitate future renovations to the Vail Golf Course
clubhouse building in response to the 2011 election.
On May 14, 2012, the Planning and Environmental Commission approved a final plat
creating the Vail Golf Course Clubhouse Parcel and forwarded a recommendation of
approval to the Vail Town Council for the rezoning of the golf course clubhouse site
from Outdoor Recreation District to General Use District. Based upon subsequent public
input, the applicant has withdrawn those applications.
Prior to submitting new development applications for renovating the Vail Golf Course
clubhouse, the Vail Town Council and the Vail Recreation District held multiple public
hearings and community open houses to obtain additional public input on a variety of
golf course related issues and proposals, including: a re -zoning process for the site,
proposed parameters for use of temporary tents on the clubhouse site, possible uses for
the existing 18th green following realignment of the hole, parking lot access, netting for
the driving range, clubhouse remodel design, including site layout, landscaping,
circulation, floor plans and elevations, etc.
On September 24, 2012, the Town of Vail, in cooperation with the Vail Recreation
District, submitted the subject zone district boundary amendment, prescribed regulation
amendments, and conditional use permit amendment applications to facilitate
renovations to the Vail Golf Course clubhouse.
On October 11, 2012, the Town of Vail and the Vail Recreation District were notified of a
complaint filed by adjacent property owners in Eagle County District Court alleging the
golf course renovation project violates an existing covenant on the golf course property,
among other claims. At this time, the lawsuit does not prevent the Planning and
Environmental Commission's review of the three submitted development applications.
IV. ROLES OF THE REVIEWING BODIES
Planning and Environmental Commission:
The Planning and Environmental Commission is responsible for forwarding a
recommendation to the Vail Town Council of approval, approval with modifications,
or denial of zone district boundary amendment applications and prescribed
regulation amendment applications, in accordance with the provisions of Section
12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code,
The Planning and Environmental Commission is responsible for final approval,
approval with modifications, or denial of a conditional use permit application, in
accordance with the provisions of Chapter 12-16, Conditional Use Permits, Vail
Town Code.
Design Review Board:
Town of Vail Page 4
The Design Review Board has no review authority over a zone district boundary
amendment, prescribed regulation amendment, or conditional use permit
application. However, the Design Review Board is responsible for the final
approval, approval with modifications, or denial of any accompanying design
review application.
Town Council:
The Town Council has the authority to hear and decide appeals from any decision,
determination, or interpretation by the Planning and Environmental Commission
and/or Design Review Board. The Town Council may also call up a decision of
the Planning and Environmental Commission and/or Design Review Board under
certain conditions.
V. NEXT STEPS
Final action on the proposed zone district boundary amendment, prescribed regulation
amendment, and conditional use permit amendment applications will be requested at a
future public hearing. Both the applicant and the Community Development Department
anticipate additional hearings before the Planning and Environmental Commission to
further discuss the various aspects of the applicant's proposal as the applicant
continues to refine the details of the request. Future work session topics may include:
• Zone district boundary amendment
• Outdoor Recreation District building height amendment
• Development Plans (site and landscape plans, architectural plans, etc.)
• Operations/Management Plans
• Traffic and Parking Plans
VI. RECOMMENDATION
The Community Development Department recommends that the Planning and
Environmental Commission listens to the applicant's presentation, asks questions, and
continues the hearing of these items to its November 12, 2012, meeting for further
review.
VII. ATTACHMENTS
A. Vicinity Map
B. Applicant's Request
C. Public Comment
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Vail Golf Course Clubhouse
Re -Development
Re -zoning Request
Text Amendment to Outdoor Rec Zone District
Amendment to Conditional Use Permit
Prepared for:
Town of Vail
75 South Frontage Road
Vail, CO 81657
September 24, 2012, revised October 2, 2012
Vail Golf Course Clubhouse Re -Development
Introduction
The purpose of this report is to provide background information and rationale for
development applications pertaining to the proposed re -development of the Vail Golf
Course Clubhouse. The following information is provided below:
• Summary of proposed Clubhouse improvements,
• Purpose of submittal,
• Background on the Clubhouse and this proposal, and
• Development applications.
This application is submitted on behalf of the Public Works Department of the Town of
Vail in conjunction with participation of the Vail Recreation District.
In 2011 the Vail Town Council took steps to seek voter approval to re -allocate
Conference Center funds to other Town projects. The underlying goal of this effort was
to utilize the approximately $9.4 million on projects that would "increase overall
economic vitality" throughout the Town and among other things have the potential to
increase occupancy, have the potential to increase sales tax growth as a result of the
investment and enhance the experience for those who live, work and play in Vail.
In the Fall of 2011 voters approved the use of Conference Center funds for three projects
— Golf Course Clubhouse improvements, a Vail Village Visitor's Center and Ford Park
improvements. Specific improvements for each of these projects were defined in
response to the underlying goals articulated in the 2011 ballot language:
Without increasing taxes, shall the Town of Vail use the remainder of the
one and one-half percent lodging tax revenues and one-half percent sales
tax revenues collected from January 1, 2003 through December 31, 2005
to fund the following projects that will promote recreation, promote
tourism and support the economy in the Town of Vail:
Expansion and improvement of the clubhouse at the Vail Golf Course and
Nordic Center, including multi -use community space;
Field expansion and restroom renovation at the Ford Park Sports
Complex; and
Ford Amphitheater improvements, including outdoor seating and restroom
improvements?
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The primary improvements envisioned for the Clubhouse included a new, dedicated
banquet room and a number of other improvements to the facility that would significantly
improve nordic and golf course operations and the overall experience of the guests and
users of the building.
At a very general level, the following vision statement for the project has played a major
role in design decisions over the past months:
"... to design a facility that broadens the appeal of golf and nordic
facilities while expanding the opportunities for year around use, by
creating a unique and special sense of place that is aligned with guest
expectations for a world class destination resort ... "
This broad vision statement has influenced the overall direction of the project design.
However, many other factors including but not limited to the development program,
operations, existing improvements and overall site features and characteristics have
directly influenced the team's approach to project design. A plan set of proposed
improvements has been submitted under separate cover.
Specific parameters used in the project design included:
• Dedicated banquet room with a capacity for 200 people
• Pre -convene space sufficient to support the banquet room
• The common areas, restrooms, elevator and stairs will be shared throughout the
building, however there will be separate entrances for the banquet room and the
recreation uses
• A grill/bar is sized for +/-40 people plus outdoor/deck space
• A kitchen is sized to serve the grill and a separate "warming kitchen" space for
the banquet space.
• Arrival to Golf/ pro shop and Nordic space should be placed at the parking lot
level
• Project design that provides for both a winter operation plan and a summer
operation plan and any use of the cart barn in the winter should present a finished
quality expected for Vail guests
• The separation of uses and enhancement of circulation throughout site and within
the building
• Locate golf course finish area on the east side of the building in order to
encourage golfers to exit through the grill/pro shop and to clarify circulation on
the front side of the building
• Maintain approximate existing square footages while increasing the efficiency
and functionality of the building
• Two-story tall (4 level) building
• Reuse of as much of the existing building structure is critical to maintain the
original project budget.
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Purpose of this Submittal
Three related development applications are proposed in order to facilitate the re-
development of the Clubhouse. These include:
1. Re -zoning a portion of the Clubhouse area from General Use (GU) to Outdoor
Recreation (OR),
2. A text amendment to the OR District to increase allowable building height from
21' (flat roof) and 24' (sloping roof) to 30' (flat roof) and 33' (sloping roof), and
3. Amendment to existing Conditional Use Permit to allow for modifications to the
Clubhouse.
The first step in the PEC's review of this project will be a series of work sessions, the
purpose of which will be to introduce the project, address the PEC and community's
initial questions and comments, scope potential issues and get other input on the project.
PEC action on these applications will then be held after final plans have been re -fined.
Background on the Clubhouse and this Proposal
Following voter approval in the fall of 2011 to reallocate a portion of Conference Center
Funds to the Clubhouse project the Town assembled a project team and design work on
project began earlier this year. Since that time the team has held numerous meetings with
the Town Council and the Recreation Sub -Committee to define the scope of the project
and to review progress on the design of the project. In August a neighborhood meeting
was held at the Clubhouse to gather input from the community regarding their issues and
concerns with the project.
The project team is currently involved in a series of public work sessions with the Town
Council. The focus of these work sessions has been to discuss all aspects of the project,
specifically dealing with neighborhood issues/concerns and potential alternatives for how
the zoning, project design and operation of the new facility can address neighborhood
concerns.
In 1986 a Conditional Use Permit for the expansion of the Clubhouse was approved by
the PEC. Main elements of the '86 expansion was new golf cart storage, expansion of the
bar/dining area, a new meeting room and an expanded kitchen. Today the facility reflects
the plans approved by this 1986 approval. Historically the facility has been used as the
clubhouse for the golf course, for nordic skiing, and for banquets and other special
events.
The Vail Golf Course is located on portions of Vail Village Filing 7 and Filing 8 and on a
number of unplatted parcels. The existing Clubhouse is located on an unplatted parcel
that is zoned Outdoor Recreation (OR). An area generally encompassing the Clubhouse
parking lot is located on Lot 3, Sunburst Filing 3 and is currently zoned General Use
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(GU). In both districts "golf courses" are a permitted use and "accessory buildings" (i.e.
the Clubhouse) are a conditional use. As such, an amendment to the current CUP is
necessary in order to allow for the planned re -development of this facility.
Development Applications
The following summarizes the three development applications proposed for the Vail Golf
Course Clubhouse re -development project.
Re -Zoning of Parking Lot from General Use (GU) to Outdoor Recreation (OR)
Currently the Clubhouse area is zoned two different zone districts. The parking lot is
zoned GU while the Clubhouse building and immediate area is zoned OR. Having what
is essentially one development site zoned two different zone districts creates an awkward
situation and this re -zoning request is proposed in large part to remedy this existing
situation.
Either the OR or GU district could provide a suitable and workable zoning for the golf
course clubhouse area. Based in large part on input from the community, the GU portion
of the Clubhouse area is proposed to be re -zoned to OR. Many residents in the golf
course neighborhood expressed concern with the board range of potential land uses under
GU zoning and to address this concern the proposed re -zoning would designate the entire
Clubhouse area as OR.
The OR zone district, while allowing for the golf course and clubhouse use (as a CUP),
does have a very restrictive building height limit. A code amendment to the OR zone
district is proposed to remedy this situation (see below).
Criteria to be used in evaluation of a proposed change to zone district are as follows:
How the proposed change in district boundaries is consistent with
the adopted goals, objectives and policies outlined in the Vail
Comprehensive Plan and compatible with the Town of Vail's
development objectives.
2. How the proposed change in district boundaries is compatible with
and suitable to adjacent uses and appropriate
for the area.
3. How the proposed change in district boundaries is in the best
interest of the public health, welfare and safety.
A response to how the proposed rezoning conforms to these review criteria will be
provided in updates to this application prior to formal PEC hearings.
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Building Height Code Amendment to Outdoor Recreation
The OR district currently limits building height to 21' (flat roof) and 24' (sloping roof).
This limitation creates significant design constraints and is also the most restrictive height
limitation of any zone district within the Town. In order to establish a building height
that will allow for the design of an appropriate, quality building a code amendment to
allow for building height of 30' (flat roof) and 33" (sloping roof) is proposed.
Building height of 30'/33' in the Clubhouse area is consistent with the building height of
surrounding properties and is thought to be reasonable given the context of this location
and the role the Clubhouse plays in the operation of the golf course. However, building
heights of 30'/33' may not be appropriate elsewhere on the golf course or on other OR
zoned properties. For this reason a narrowly defined code amendment will be proposed
to limit the locations and/or circumstances where building height of 30'/33' may be
permissible.
Alternatives for how to amend building height in the OR District include:
Limiting the building height increase to specific types of buildings or to specific
locations,
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2. Establishing specific criteria that must be met in order to allow for buildings up to
30'/33', or
3. Utilizing the CUP process to review the appropriateness of building height up to
30'/33'.
These alternatives will be presented for discussion with the PEC at upcoming work
sessions.
Criteria to be used in evaluation of a proposed amendment to the zoning code are as
follows:
How the proposed amendment is consistent with the adopted goals,
objectives and policies outlined in the Vail Comprehensive Plan
and compatible with the Town of Vail's development objectives.
2. How the proposed amendment is compatible with and suitable to
adjacent uses and appropriate for the area.
3. How the proposed amendment is in the best interest of the public
health, welfare and safety.
A response to how the proposed code amendment conforms to these review criteria will
be provided in updates to this application prior to formal PEC hearings.
Amendment to Existing Conditional Use Permit (CUP)
A CUP is currently in place for the Vail Golf Course Clubhouse. An amendment to
reflect the proposed re -development and use of the new facility is proposed.
Historically the Clubhouse building has been an accessory use to the golf course (cart
storage, lockers, food and beverage, pro shop, offices, etc.), has been used by the Vail
Nordic Center during winter months and as a facility to host banquets, parties and other
functions. The later use has occurred in the existing bar/restaurant area. When used for
banquets and other functions the capacity of the bar/restaurant area has been
approximately 120 people. While this space has been used for these purposes for many
years the existing CUP includes no specific parameters regarding this use of the building.
Proposed uses for the Clubhouse are the same as how the building has historically been
used - the Golf Course will utilize the facility in the summer, the Nordic Center in the
winder and throughout the year the building will be used for banquets and other
functions. While uses remain the same, significant upgrades will be made to the building
and to the overall guest experience of its users. A dedicated space for banquets and other
functions with a capacity of 200 people is the most significant change to the building.
Other improvements include a new bar/restaurant (intended primarily to serve golfers),
improved spaces for the pro shop and nordic operations, expanded golf cart storage, and
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improved lockers, circulation, restrooms, etc. The building and site design will
dramatically improve the sense of arrival to the facility and is also designed to better
organize uses and where necessary separate the various users of the building.
The CUP includes two main elements — the Development Plan (comprehensive design
drawings of the proposed building and site improvements and an
Operations/Management Plan (a document outlining how the facility will be used and
managed). The CUP also includes a diagram defining the area covered by the CUP (see
below). This area includes the Clubhouse building, parking lot and the immediately
surrounding area. Improvements planned for the Clubhouse are located within this area
and commitments or obligations outlined in the Operations Plan pertain to this area.
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Below is a summary of the Development Plan and the Operations/Management Plan.
Development Plan
In accordance with submittal requirements for a CUP, a Development Plan for the project
has been submitted. This plan provides comprehensive information on the design of the
building along with site and landscape improvements. Information provided includes
building elevations and floor plans, roof plan, site plan, landscape plan, grading plan and
lighting plan. The Development Plan has been submitted under separate cover.
Development Standards
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The proposed building has been designed to conform to all zoning/development standards
as outlined in the OR Zone District (assuming the proposed height amendment is
approved). Specific information on these standards will be provided as the design
package evolves in the coming weeks.
Parking requirements for the proposed building can be satisfied with minor expansion
and re -organization of the existing parking lot. The following summarizes how parking
has been calculated for the facility.
The Town's Zoning Code does not include parking requirements specific to a golf course.
As such, parking demand for the course and clubhouse facility has been determined based
on the parking that currently exists and then assessing a new parking demand for the
expansion or change to any of the parking generating uses within the Clubhouse (i.e. the
banquet facility, restaurant and pro shop).
Vail Golf Course IParkdng Analysis
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In order to meet the Code requirement for parking, an additional 12 spaces have been
added to the existing parking lot. It should be understood that this parking, while
satisfying code requirements does not address the potential parking impacts of an event
being held in the banquet room during peak golf course operations. In these cases a
Parking Management Plan will be implemented. This plan will be defined in the
Operations and Management Plan for the facility.
Operations/Management Plan
There are currently no parameters or limitations on how the Clubhouse can be used for
banquets and other functions. It is recognized that operational parameters do need to be
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established in order to minimize any potential impacts of the facility on the immediate
neighborhood. The Vail Recreation District is currently preparing an Operations and
Management Plan for the facility. It is anticipated that this plan will address topic such
as lighting, hours of operation, amplified sound, and parking management. This plan will
be an important element of the CUP and it is expected that it will be incorporated into
any final approval for the project.
Criteria to be used in evaluation of a proposed CUP are as follows:
Describe the precise nature of the proposed use and measures
proposed to make the use compatible with other properties in the
vicinity.
2. The relationship and impact of the use on development objectives
of the Town.
3. The effect of the use on light and air, distribution of population,
transportation facilities, utilities, schools, parks and recreation
facilities, and other public facilities and public facility's needs.
4. The effect upon traffic, with particular reference to congestion,
automotive and pedestrian safety and convenience, traffic flow and
control, access, maneuverability, and removal of snow from the
streets and parking area.
5. The effect upon the character of the area in which the proposed use
is to be located, including the scale and bulk of the proposed use in
relation to surrounding uses.
A response to how the proposed CUP conforms to these review criteria will be provided
in updates to this application prior to formal PEC hearings.
Information on each of the three applications will be updated in the coming weeks in
response to input received from the PEC, Town Council and community.
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TOWN OF VAIL
October 17, 2012
Sunburst Drive Homeowners
c/o Sam Maslak
1979 Sunburst Drive
Vail, CO 81657
Planning and Environmental Commission
Town of Vail
75 S. Frontage Road West
Vail, Colorado 81657
Re: Vail Golf Course Clubhouse and I8th Hole/Zoning and Conditional Use Permit
Dear Planning and Environmental Commission (PEC):
As you are aware, the Town of Vail plans to enlarge the Vail Golf Course clubhouse,
move the 18th green of the golf course, destroy portions of the 18th hole fairway, and use the
entire area as a revenue- and tourism -generating events center. You may also be aware that a
number of us—as neighbors who own homes adjacent to or near the Vail Golf Course—have
filed a lawsuit to prevent the Town from proceeding with its current plans. To meet its goals, the
Town has sought to amend the conditional use permit (CUP) it received in 1986 to expand it in
both size and scope. It also seeks to amend the zone district to change the golf course parking lot
from a General Use District to an Outdoor Recreation District. Finally, it seeks to amend the
zoning for the clubhouse to allow it to increase the clubhouse's height.
As citizens and property owners of Vail, we feel it is important for the PEC to be aware
of our position regarding the Town's requests. We do not oppose changing the parking lot from
a General Use District to an Outdoor Recreation District. We also take no position at this time
on the Town's attempt to change zoning relating to height requirements because it is still unclear
exactly what the Town will seek (although we reserve the right to oppose the Town's plans in the
future once they become more clear). We oppose, however, the Town's request to amend the
Conditional Use Permit to allow it to move forward with its proposed changes to the clubhouse,
the 18th green, and the 18th hole fairway. While we support the effort to improve the clubhouse,
we cannot permit the plan to convert the clubhouse and neighboring area to an event center in
violation of the reasonable expectations of the neighborhood, the voters who approved the use of
convention center funds for clubhouse improvements, and the golf community.
Numerous citizens have raised objections and issues with the Town Council regarding the
proposed changes to the golf course and its clubhouse, indicating that the Town's current plans
are unacceptable. Despite this, the Town has refused to address the citizens' concerns or to
change its plans in any meaningful way. The issues are numerous and are so intertwined with
the Town's current proposals that the only way for the Town to address them is to abandon its
current course altogether and begin anew with plans to renovate and update the golf course
clubhouse within its existing footprint and without moving the 18th green. That was what the
Town Council members promised was their intent, that is what the voters approved, and that is
what the Vail Golf Course neighbors, citizens of Vail, and golfers support and deserve.
Reasons for Opposing the Town's Plans and Application to Amend the CUP
We oppose the Town's current plan for the following reasons:
1. Development of Program Without Timely Neighborhood, Golfer, or Other
Involvement. The Town failed to engage the neighborhood and many others effectively during
the development of its plan for conversion of the 18th hole and the clubhouse until after their
plans were fully and privately developed. Even the first notices circulated to the neighborhood,
in connection with a PEC meeting held on May 14, 2012, were misleading. They referred to the
"clubhouse" only and not to the area around the clubhouse, the 18th green, or the 18th fairway,
all of which the Town has, from the beginning, intended to change. Only after two
neighborhood owners realized the impact of the program did the rest of the owners in the
neighborhood around the Golf Course realize how vast the Town's plans were. By that time, the
Town had already traveled so far down its intended path that it either could not or would not
change course. It adopted an inflexible position and largely ignored the opinions and opposition
of the golf course neighbors, the golfing community, and even some of the members of the Vail
Recreation District ("VRD").
2. Size/Capacity of Project. The material the Town created and circulated on
October 8, 2012 clearly indicates that the Town intends to create an event center with an indoor
"banquet room" that can accommodate 200 seats (and presumably at least that many people).
The Plan also provides for an outdoor events area that will accommodate as many as 500 people.
Finally, the CUP the Town seeks is approximately eight times as large as the CUP it received in
1986, which covered only the existing clubhouse footprint. It also is an expansion in scope,
since the current CUP does not even mention "events" or "banquets" and provides for a meeting
room of only 506 square feet.
The floor plans the Town distributed indicate that the banquet room will be 2,728 square
feet and the outdoor patio area will be an additional 2,750 square feet. A pre -convene space tied
to the banquet room will be 756 square feet. Finally, a "banquet lawn" to the south of the
covered patio will add an additional 5,000 square feet. The total space for holding events at the
golf course clubhouse will thus total approximately 11,234 square feet. And that does not take
into account the CUP's expansion to include the current 18th green and portions of the fairway.
By contrast, the pro shop and golfer grille will total only 2,812 square feet. These numbers leave
no doubt that the planned facility will be a large and substantial event center with coincidental
golf space rather than a golf clubhouse that also occasionally serves other community functions,
which the November 2011 ballot question indicated was the Town's intent.
3. Orientation of Any Event Activity Area. Because the golf course neighbors'
homes sit east and south of the clubhouse, the Town's current plans will maximize the nuisance
to the neighborhood. The Town intends to configure the new events center so that all banquets
and outdoor activities occur to the south and east of the clubhouse. Special events held in this
area in the past have been disruptive to the neighborhood and have forced neighbors to call the
police. Rather than develop a plan that would reduce the likelihood of such problems, the Town
has instead proposed plans that will increase them substantially, both in number and in physical
scope.
At least one member of the community proposed a potential alternative plan that would
have ameliorated many of the golf course neighbors' concerns. The Town refused even to
acknowledge that proposal, and weeks after they received it, some members of the Town Council
admitted they did not even review it.
4. Parking, Congestion, and Safety Issues. The Town intends to increase the
parking lot capacity by roughly 11 %. Although the Town has represented that it no longer
desires—as it originally planned—to replace the 18th green with additional parking, it is unlikely
that the Town will be able to host the types of events it contemplates without increasing parking
capacity and further deteriorating the quality of the golf course. The CUP the Town seeks will
allow it to increase the parking lot's size or add other parking at a later date. Moreover, the
Town's plans are subject to the requirements of the PEC and the Design Review Board, which
could render the commitment of no further parking expansion meaningless if neither the PEC nor
the DRB will permit the Town's dramatic expansion plans without significant additional parking.
In addition, the Town's plans raise serious safety and congestion concerns. According to
its plans, events scheduled at the clubhouse may begin as early as 4 P.M. At that time, golfers
will still be on the course and their cars in the parking lot, which will not have the capacity for
both golfer vehicles and event attendee vehicles. The result will be individuals parking along the
shoulder of Sunburst Drive, which creates hazards for emergency vehicles trying to access the
neighborhood, as well as severe congestion for the residents and substantial risk to the bikers and
runners who use Sunburst.
In sum, there is no way the Town can implement its plans without either expanding the
parking lot into the 18th green or creating serious congestion and safety issues.
5. Destruction of 18th Fairway and Green. The Town currently plans to shorten
the 18th fairway and move the 18th hole east of the clubhouse, converting the current 18th green
into a putting/practice green that could also host large tent events. Only after voters raised
concerns did the Town invent a number of safety concerns in an attempt to justify the move.
These safety concerns, which were never mentioned in connection with the proposal to spend
convention center funds on this project, are nothing more than a smokescreen that will allow the
Town to proceed with cutting off the western third of the 18th hole, all for the purpose of raising
revenue for itself through the event center. Even if the Town's "no additional parking"
commitment were credible, there is simply no way of knowing how the Town will use that
property if it receives the CUP it is requesting, both now and in the future. The uncertainty
regarding how the Town intends to use the 18th green will serve as a perpetual cloud over the
neighboring properties and will significantly reduce the value of neighboring homes.
6. Noise. The Town's plans will create noise that will serve as a nuisance to all
homeowners along the 18th fairway and current 18th green and in the adjoining townhomes.
Indeed, the expansive use of the facility as a revenue-producing events center raises the
following concerns regarding noise:
a. Orientation of activities. The Town's current proposals place activities in
the one location that will maximize the noise nuisance to the homeowners.
b. Lack of effective control. The Town has shown an inability to control the
noise level of events held in the modest space already at the clubhouse,
even when neighbors complain. If the Town succeeds in creating an event
center of the magnitude it is proposing, the impact on the neighborhood
will be severe. When the windows and doors are opened, the building
itself will act as an amphitheater, magnifying the volume of events held
there. Music, crowd, and traffic noise will cause a diminution in value of
the neighbors' homes.
Hours of operation. The Town plans to allow music to continue at the
new events center until midnight each night and activities may continue to
2:00 A.M.. The attendees likely will not all leave until some time after
that. Such late hours will prevent those in the neighborhood from
experiencing any peace and quiet at a late evening hour, something many
of the homeowners relied on having when they purchased their properties.
d. Estimates suggest the center will host more than 100 events per year, and
the number could be substantially more than that.
7. Lighting. Lighting associated with evening activities will be a nuisance to the
neighborhood in several respects. Because lighting for outside activities will most likely be
affixed to the building, it will shine toward the residences, creating a continuing glare. Any
lighting sufficient to illuminate the outdoor banquet areas will almost certainly be bright enough
to illuminate the adjoining properties as well. And because lighting will be necessary beyond the
period when events occur, as people are leaving to their vehicles, it will be a problem well past
midnight, resulting in an aggravated impact on the neighboring residences.
8. Erratic Behavior and Lack of Law Enforcement. During past social gatherings
at the clubhouse, which were much smaller than that which the Town is proposing to host, the
conduct of attendees has often been out of control, resulting in safety issues and disturbance to
the neighborhood. And calls to law enforcement have been ineffective. Larger events designed
to be outside will only increase such activity.
9. Tents. The CUP the Town is seeking will allow it to use the 18th fairway and the
18th green as a venue to raise large tents under which they can host affairs even larger than those
contemplated for the events center itself. Such a use will only exacerbate the issues we have
already raised, including noise, lighting, and unruly behavior, and will create opportunities for
other nuisances and torts, such as trespasses onto the residential properties. The information the
Town has circulated indicates that the Town will prohibit private parties from using tents but that
the Vail Recreation District may still use tents for special public events. The issues we have
raised, however, are as much a concern for public functions as they are for private ones.
Moreover, the Town could change its policy in the future to allow tents for private events.
10. Reconfiguration of Driving Range Nets. The Town insists on increasing the
height of the driving range nets, which will distract golfers, tourists, motorists along I-70, bikers,
and others attempting to enjoy the scenery. No valid reason exists for reconfiguring the driving
range nets, especially if the Town abandons its plan to move the 18th green. The movement of
the green is what places golfers in danger. The Town's current plan is forcing it to spend large
sums of money to address safety concerns that would not exist if the Town would simply
reconsider its current course of action.
11. Lack of Buffer to Protect Residences. Whatever activities occur at the current
parking lot, the current clubhouse site, or at the current location of the 18th fairway and green,
the impacts on the neighborhood will be significant. There is simply no way to buffer the
homeowners from the activities. At Donovan Pavilion, the nearest residence to the building is
approximately twice the distance as is the nearest residence on Sunburst Drive to the Vail Golf
Course clubhouse. In addition, at Donovan, Gore Creek and a wide and dense growth of
evergreen trees shield the nearby residences. If this project goes forward in any manner other
than by simply creating a quality golf course clubhouse with no significant event facility, the
neighborhood residences will experience substantial reduction in value and will require increased
protection from both parking activities and event functions.
12. Uncertainty Regarding Zoning and Development Plans. Because of the broad
options available under the zoning regulations, if the PEC were to grant the Town's requested
changes to the CUP, the Town would have broad flexibility regarding how to use the clubhouse,
the 18th green, and the 18th fairway. This is especially true because the Town refuses to be
bound by any of the proposals it has put forth to the PEC. The uncertainty regarding how the
Town intends to use the property prevents the residents of the adjoining properties from the
normal use of their residences, decreases the property and resale value of the golf course
neighbors' homes and properties, and leaves open the possibility that the Town will, at a later
time, use the property for purposes other than those it now identifies.
13. General Considerations. In addition to the issues identified above, the following
more general concerns also warrant consideration:
a. the events center will likely compete with a number of local businesses;
b. given other event centers that are existing or soon coming on-line, the
Town simply does not need another event center or wedding venue;
C. the Town would spend far too much on this project, draining its reserves
and committing future revenues, which will result in less funding to be
available for Ford Park improvements and other Town priorities;
d. many or all homes and townhomes along Sunburst Drive will lose
substantial value, which could result in additional costs to the Town for
this project; and
e. the operation of the proposed center would be a money-losing
proposition, but if the Town were to abandon its plan and limit itself to
renovating the clubhouse only within its existing footprint, it could save
millions of dollars, which should make the project an operational and
financial success.
Requested Actions
We request that the PEC deny the Town's request to amend the CUP, which needs no
amendments to renovate the golf course clubhouse within its current footprint, as the Town
promised was its intent. The Town never mentioned to the voters of Vail its intent to move the
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18th green or to expand the events capacity of the clubhouse in such a dramatic fashion. As long
as it intends to do so, we request that the PEC deny the Town's application. The Town must
develop the golf course clubhouse in a way that fits within the existing footprint and meets the
needs of the entire community, not the demands of a few special interest groups.
Respectfully, AA
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Samuel H. Maslak
Cdr. Luleta Maslak
R. Glenn Hilliard
Steven B. Chotin
Deborah L. Webster
Richard J. Callahan
Mary Celeste Callahan
Curtis Olson
Landon Hilliard
Lee Chapman
Sandra Chapman
Richard Knowlton
Nancy Knowlton
Table of Contents to Communications to Town of Vail from
Objectors to Conversion of Vail Golf Course Clubhouse to Event Center
and Destruction of 18th Hole of Vail Golf Course
Limited 06 June - 12 July 2012
06 June 2012
Bugby, Dale
07 June 2012
Hall, Rob
Goldstein, David & Mary
Irwin, Dave and Debbie
Arford, Craig and Sue
Wilson, Ken
12 June
Potto, Joe
Bennett, Phil
Zeltman, Bob and Malin
Cohen, Jeff
McAvity, Douglas
Connolly, Stephen
Forbes, Chris
Payne, Hugh
Hitt, Farrow
Theisen, Bobcat Steve
Schwartz, Michael
Colwell, Mark
Hatami, Todd
14 June
Howe, Trudy
Ogden, Geordy
Gottlieb, Lynn
Savage, Scott
Taylor, Eric
Hatami, Todd (2nd)
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14 June (continued)
Johnson, Randy
Seidman, Paul
Guerry, Robin and Ken
osusja@aol.com
Crowley, Charlie and Ginny
15 June
Lamb, George
Bugby, Dale (2nd)
19 June
Sunburst owner (Hilliard, G., and other adjacent property owners) by Abplanalp
20 June
Hatami, Todd (3rd)
21 June
Taylor, Eric (2nd)
Connors, TJ (2nd)
26 June
Chapman, Sandy and Lee (adjacent property owners)
Webster, Deborah (adjacent property owner)
Blanchard, Stephen (adjacent resident)
Ludwig, Tom
Hilliard, Glenn
27 June
Hilliard, Glenn, and other adjacent property owners by Abplanalp (2nd)
28 June
Woods, Peter and Sandy
Newsam, Sarah
Collins, Stephen
P
29 June
Chotin, Steven and Robin (adjacent property owners)
Cook, Don
Hinds, Richard
2 July
Bugby, Dale (3rd)
Hamelin, Rol
Wikert, Alinda
Walsh, Bob and Trudy
Goldstein, David and Mary (2nd)
Hilliard, Landon (adjacent property owner)
Wyman, Frederick
Busse, Gretchen (adjacent property owner)
Olson, Curtis (adjacent property owner)
Cady, Steve
Pollack, Susan
Ogden, Gordy (2nd)
Carlson, John
Furstenberg, Peter and Dorothy
Seidman, Paul (2nd)
Essin, Bob
Rey, Schram
Schram, Liz
Starfire Company (adjacent property owner)
sgjink@aol.com
Vande Garde, Larry D., MD
Walker, Carrie
Zeltman, Malin (2nd)
Zeltman, Bob (2nd)
Smith, Theresa
Olson, Curtis (adjacent property owner) (2nd)
Sjogren, Karla
03 July
Hemelin, Rol and Franberg, Ingie
Chapman, Lee and Sandy (adjacent property owners) (2nd)
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05 July
Bugby, Dale (4th)
Zeltman, Bob (3rd)
11 July
Wright, Wayne
Hillard and other adjacent property owners by Abplanalp (3rd)
12 July
Hilliard, Glenn and Heather (2nd)
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From: Dale Bugbyjmailto•DaleFromVail(aHotmail.coml
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 9:29 PM
To: Bank Bobby; Behler Roger; Benson Jim; Boillot David; Boymer Bob; Connolly Stephen; Cuomo Bart;
Dubois Tom; Faessler Johannes; Fermanis John; Foley Kevin; Forey Dan; Goode Eileen; Goode John;
Gramshammer Pep!; Hall Rob; Hanlon Margaret; Hiland Debbie; Hitt Farrow B; Hopkins Pam; Irwin Dave;
Jonathan Staufer; Kelton Art; Knobel Peter; Knox Allen; Lamont Jim; Levin Rich; Millette Karin; Newbiatt
Bob; Office Vail Chamber; Ohde Andrea; Retzlaff Julie; Rosen Bob; Silverman Rick; Sjogren Karla; Staufer
Joe; Stevens Patti; Taylor Brian; Thiele Pati; Vail Homeowners Association; Wilhelm Karen; Zemler Stan
Subject: Fwd: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Subject: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Dear Mens Club Golfers:
I found out in the past week about the re -design of #18 at the Vail Golf Course. Manof
e n aware o e voter approved new I that m from t o
ennuanl-inn ranharFFn c_ a voted to aonraye that last November. Yay, a new
we are back
of
convention space! They don't have enough money to build a proper parking structure,
so #18 becomes a parking lot? THIS IS L►nTeapROVED. We
Respond to this email before 5PM on Thursday and I will take your response to the Vail
REC District meeting.
Better yet, show up and voice your opposition at the REC District meeting, 5PM June 7th
Thursday in the Town of Vail chambers.
Dale Bugby
Vail Resort Rentals, Inc.
970-476-0900
www. VailResortRentals.com
Wistar Real Estate, Inc.
970-476-6223
www.yistarRea/Estatexom
7/17/2012
4-7-3
Lorelei Donaldson
From•• Dale Bugby <dalefromvail@hotmail.com>
Sent - Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:54 AM
To: admin@vailrec.com; Council Dist List; Stan Zemler, alivrdboard@vailrec.com
Subject: FW: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Dale Bugby
Vail Resort Rentals, Inc.
970-476-0900
www. Va#ResortRentals.com
Vistar Real Estate, Inc.
970-476-6223
www. VistarRealEMe com
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 10:39:04 -0600
Subject: Re: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
From: I uckv71351 aama il.gom
To: DaleFromY-ail@hotmail.com
From Rob Hall:
Typical govt operation. What they dont know, they dont need to know. We should stand up and fight this. Its our right.
They need more parking anyway adn pavin4 # 18 isnt how lts done.
Thank you
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Dale Bugby <DaleFromVail(dhotmail com> wrote:
Subject: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Dear Mens Club Golfers:
I found out in the past week about the re -design of #18 at the Vail Golf Course. Many of us have been
aware of the voter approved new clubhouse money that came from the old convention center funds. We
voted to approve that last November. Yay, a new clubhouse! Now that we are back playing golf some of
us have noticed a couple of poster boards showing a new golf design for number 18. The current plan
has shortened the par 5 #18 to a par 4 finishing hole! As we inquired about it we have been told by our
friends on the REC District Board that the golf hole on 18 will go away in August and it is too late for
input! REALLY? Too late for input would assume we knew something about It prior to it being too late
for input. The Town Council needs our input. The Vail REC District needs our input. The planning
department and design review board need our input. The half a dozen homes overlooking the 18th
green need our input. The current plan is to pave over #18 so there is adequate parking for
convention space! They don't have enough money to build a proper parking structure, so #18 becomes
a parking lot? THIS IS NOT WHAT THE VOTERS APPROVED. We agreed to a new clubhouse, not the
destruction of the best finishing hole of golf in the Vail Valley. Do we really need a circus tent on #18
doing weddings until midnight? The new clubhouse should accomodate golfers and groups rather than
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7/17/2012
4-7-10
Lorelei Donaldson
From: Dale Bugby <dalefromvail@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, lune 07, 201210:52 AM
To: admin@vailrec.com; Council Dist List; Stan Zemler; allvrdboard@vailrec.com
Subject: FW: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Dale Bugby
!/ail Resort Rentals, Inc.
970-476-0900
www. VailResortRentals-co
14istar Real Estate, Inc.
970-476-6213
www, V-starRea1Estate cram
Date: Wed, 6 ]un 201219:21:22 -0700
From: dgmg3142@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
To: dalefromvail@hotmail.com
Good evening Dale,
Mv wife and I would both prefer #18 to stay the same.
The green isInt a pe ect p ace1n re atlon at=onto Tec u house and the outside patio.
We would like to see an alternative plan that leaves #18 in its present form.
We are out of town until late June so please include us as part of the opposition to change.
Regards,
David and Mary Goldstein
--- On Wed, 6/6/12, Dale Bugby <dalefromvaiM 4otmaiLcom> wrote:
From: Dale Bugby <dalefromvail@hotmail.com>
Subject: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
To: "Dale Bugby" <dalefromvail@hotmail.com>
Cc: "Alice Plain" <aplain@vailrec.com>, leftnrightpgm@yahoo.com, "Chris Johnson"
<cjohnson@vailrec.com>, king_ad@yahoo.com, wgmd@hotrnail.com, rcwildvail@yahoo.com,
vailbob@comcast.net, bobwalsh971@comcast.net, rwilhelm@vail-beavercreek.com, bobzeltman@yahoo.com,
"Brian Taylor" <tayloredcabinet@gmail.com>, 'BRUCE FRASER" <brucerfraser@msn.com>,
c.arford@comcast.net, dstripp@skiclubvail.org, vaildc@comcast.net, daverootl@hotmail.com,
kasingleton@q.com, wavygravey@hotmail.com, dgmg3142@yahoo.com, skijetre@msn.com, "Dennis Koller"
<dennis_koller@hotmail.com>, d.pappas@comcast.net, dabel@vail.net, mclohman@comcast.net,
stevieofpb@gmail.com, etaylor@jjet.com, "Gene Henry" <hiltonvaill@comcast.net>,
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7/17/2012
4-7-8
Lorelei Donaldson
From: Dale Bugby <dalefromvail@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:54 AM
To: admin@vailrec.com; Council Dist List; Stan Zemler; alivrdboard@vailrec.com
Subject: FW: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Dale Bugby
Vail Resort Rentals, Inc.
970-476-0900
www. Va#ResortRentals. corn
Vistar Real Estate, Inc.
970-476-6223
www. VistarRealEstate. com
From: dirwin slifer.net
To: DaleFromVail(dHotmail.com
Subject: RE: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:19:27 +0000
Vail REC District -
We are against changing hole #18 at the Vail Golf Course. We do support a new clubhouse, but not the destruction
of #18.
Dave d Debbie Irwin
From: Dale Bugby,[mailto•Da!eFromVail(cDHotmail.coml
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 9:29 PM
To: Bank Bobby; Behler Roger; Benson Jim; Bolllot David; Boymer Bob; Connolly Stephen; Cuomo Bart; Dubois Tom;
Faessler Johannes; Fermanis John; Foley Kevin; Forey Dan; Goode Eileen; Goode John; Gramshammer Pepi; Hall Rob;
Hanlon Margaret; Debbie Irwin; Hitt Farrow B; Hopkins Pam; Irwin Dave; Jonathan Staufer; Kelton Art; Knobel Peter;
Knox Allen; Lamont Jim; Levin Rich; Millette Karin; Newbiatt Bob; Office Vail Chamber; Ohde Andrea; Retzlaff Julie; Rosen
Bob; Silverman Rick; Sjogren Karla; Staufer Joe; Stevens Patti; Taylor Brian; Thiele Pati; Vail Homeowners Association;
Wilhelm Karen; Zemler Stan
Subject: Fwd: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Subject: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Dear Mens Club Golfers:
I found out in the past week about the re -design of #18 at the Vail Golf Course. Many of us have been
aware of the voter approved new clubhouse money that came from the old convention center funds. We
voted to approve that last November. Yay, a new clubhouse! Now that we are back playing golf some of
us have noticed a couple of poster boards showing a new golf design for number 18. The current plan
has shortened the par 5 #18 to a par 4 finishing hole! As we inquired about it we have been told by our
friends on the REC District Board that the golf hole on 18 will go away in August and it is too late for
input! REALLY? Too late for input would assume we knew something about it prior to it being too late
for input. The Town Council needs our input. The Vail REC District needs our input. The planning
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7/17/2012
4-7-9
Lorelei Donaldson
From: Dale Bugby <dalefromvail@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, lune 07, 2012 10:54 AM
To: admin@vailrec.com; Council Dist List; Stan Zemier; allvrdboard@vailrec.com
Subject: FW: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Dale Bugby
Vail Resort Rentals, Inc.
970-476-0900
www. Va#ResortRentals. corn
Vistar Real Estate, Inc.
970-476-6223
www. VistarRealEstate.com
From: c.arford@comcast.net
To: dalefromvail@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Date: Thu, 7 ]un 2012 09:23:28 -0600
Dale,
Unfortunately we will be in Denver on Friday. But thank you for setting up this response to the VRD's plan to tear up #18.
For the record I never thought #18 should be changed. It makes no sense to me. I think the clubhouse could be built on
a really good golf coursule -ontrVe to tear everything up in this valley! That is my 2 cents worth!
Sincerely,
Craig and Sue Arford
--- Original Message ----
From: Dale Buabv
To: Dale Buabv
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subject: <<N: Save #18 Frcm Becoming an Asphalt Parking lot!
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Dale Bu9by
Vail Resort Rentals, Inc.
970-476-0900
Vistar Real Estate, Inc.
970-476-6223
U/ww VistarRealEstate.com
From: dirwin@slifer.net
To: DaleFromVail@Hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 201216:19:27 +0000
Vail REC District -
We are against changing hole #18 at the Vail Golf Course. We do support a new clubhouse, but not
the destruction of #18.
Dave and Debbie Irwin
From: Dale Bugby [mailto:DaleFromVail@Hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday;. June 06; 2012 9:29 PM
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Subject: Fwd: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Subject: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lotl
Dear Mens Club Golfers:
I found out in the past week about the re -design of #18 at the Vail Golf Course. Many of
us have been aware of the voter approved new clubhouse money that came from the old
convention center funds: We voted to approve that last November. Yay, a new
clubhouse! Now that we are back playing golf some of us have noticed a couple of poster
boards showing a new golf design for number 18. The current plan has shortened the par
5 #18 to a par 4 finishing hole! As we inquired about it we have been told by our friends
on the REC District Board that the golf hole on 18 will go away in August and it is too late
for input! REALLY? Too late for input would assume we knew something about it prior to
it being too late for input. The Town Council needs our input. The Vail REC District needs
our input. The planning department and design review board need our input. The half a
dozen homes overlooking the 18th green need our input. The current plan is to pave over
#18 so there is adequate parking for convention space! They don't have enough money
Lorelei Donaldson
From: Dale Bugby <dalefromvail@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:56 AM
To: admin@vailrec.com; Council Dist List; Stan Zemler; ailvrdboard@vailrec.com
Subject: This email says it all
Dale Bugby
Vail Resort Rentals, Inc.
970-476-0900
www. VailResortRentalscom
Vistar Real Estate, Inc.
970-476-6123
www. VistarRealEstate.com
From: kenw@vail.net
To: dalefromvail@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 09:32:53 -0600
Dale,
You need to know that this is not a VRD project. It is a TOV project. The VRD is the tenant, at the golf course and at the
clubhouse.
As to the 18'h hole, there have been numerous public meetings on the redesign of the hole. There is not one board
member "happy" that this redesign is necessary to accommodate the new events center and clubhouse.
I wish you would have taken the time to get your facts "straight" before sending your email.
Thanks.
Ken Wilson
970-390-1320
From: Dale Bugby [mailto:dalefromvail@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:24 AM
To: kenw@vail.net
Subject: RE: Save #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lot!
I'm sorry if I am mis-informed. Thanks for correcting the meeting time. I got that time from a VRD Board member. I
also got all of my information from other Board members and the golf staff at the clubhouse. If you can stand behind
your plans, please do so. I don't see the advantage to screwing up 18 for the benefit of parking or catering. You will
destroy over 10 million in property values with your current plan. I don't think you even have that much to spend.
Dale Bugby
Vail Resort Rentals, Inc.
970-476-0900
www. VailResortRentals com
Vistar Real Estate, Inc.
970-476-6223
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Subject, RE Saver #18 From Becoming an Asphalt Parking Lott
Date,.' Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:47:25 PM
Dear Vail Golf Mens, Clubi,
The VRD Board meets Thursday June 14, at S PM at the Town Council Chambers. Be
there. They need to hear from everyone by email or in person. Some of your feedback
so far is:
My wife and: I would both prefer #18 to stay the: same,:. The green is In the perfect
place In relation to the. clubhouse and the outside patio, We would like to see an,
alternative plan, that leaves #18 In its present formi We are out of town until late
June so pleaso Include us as part of the opposition to change. Regards,
David- and Mary Goldstein
I agree 100%1
This Is Not what the voters approved..
-Jeff Potts
From what you have said I am appalled I would like to get more involved to oppose
From
this
his defamation of our course.
Phil
hil Bennett
I agree with you completely and strongly disapprove of this decision to change hole
i
number 1& 1 also feel that this decision and many other recent decisions such as hole
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number 3 which used to be a fun hole for the women Is now boring as hell. These
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decision are being made without voter approval or input in the process. Thanks for
your email.
Bob and Malin Zeltman
Yea Dale, I have seen that, but that has been a plan for a while. Don't know what
we can do!!
Paul Seidman
I don't reside in Vail, I live in E&,ii,rards, but toll:;,nilly agree with you,- Not:!,"aire my voice
matters since I don't having voting rights. But I've lived in Zvall V@Alley for 30 years.
Owned a condo in Vail for 10 years before m:oowing down Valley. Changing #18 will
diminish the golf course. While the recent improvements have improved play at Vail,
changing 18 will be a detriment. Sincerely,
C
Jeff Cohen
The 18th at Vail is one of the better holes that I have played anywhere. It is a:
signature
,natt
ure hole that should remain a staple on the course. By shortening the hole we
create a less challenging course, and shorten a already short course. The Vail Golf
Club
S
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a staple of summer recreation in our community by eliminating the long par 5
you weaken
ouken the course and the overall experience that people enjoy when they visit
our valley:
Douglas McAvity,
Unfortunatelyi this sort of reply (ifs too late - we already decided for you) has become,
the pattern and practice with the local elected6. The whole conference center funds,,
allocation. process has been a, fiasco.,The redevelopment of the Town Halt Is ajoke. I
I
wish
isir I could offer up some sort of constructive ideas on this one, but I don't know
enough (other than there should have been Input requested a long time ago). Sorry I
won't be in town tommorrow night -
S1
Stephen, Connolly;,
Dale I agree with you but am out of, town,.'"
TJT;
Oconner,,,
Save 1&
Chris Forbes
Unfortunately we. will be in Denver on Friday. But thank you for setting up this
response to the VRD's plan to tear up #18; For the record I never thought #18 should
be changedi It makes no sense to me. I think the clubhouse could be built on the
same site. It doesn't have to be to grandiose as to change the course. I agree that
5
#18 Is one. of the holes that make Vail a really good golf course. We don't have to tear
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everything up In this valley! That is my 2 cents worth[ Sincerely,
Craig and Sue Arfdr&
[atYou need to know that this Is not a VRD project. It Is a TOV project. The VRD Is the tenant,
the golf course and at the clubhouse. As to the 18t� hole; there have been numerous
t
public meetings on the redesign of the hole. There is not one board member 'happy" that
public
this redesign Is necessary to accommodate the new events center and clubhouse. I wish
this
you would have taken the time to get your facts "straight" before sending your email.
you
Thanks.
1
Ken Wilsort
Dale I agree ivith you„i.
H ugh Wayne
Vail REC District -We acre against changing hole #18 at the Vail Golf Course. We do support
a new clubhouse, but not the destruction of #18.
Dave and Debbie Irwin
Typical government operation. What they don't know, they don't need to know. We
shouldstand up and fight this. It's our right. They need more parking anyway and.
paving #-18 isn't how its done. Thank you,
Rob Hall
Sounds like I need to show up, with my sand wedge in hand. I'll be there. Thanks for
the heads up. Next Thursday, June 14th.
the
Hitt
This issue was discussed on Tuesday at the Town Council' meeting. The Councilhas asked';
that we look at what is currently proposed for additional parking and the hole realignment;:.
that Is required: to accommodate the parking. h will keep you informed as we proceed and
am willing. to meet with anyone who has interest in this projectThis plan is evolving and,'
yours: and: others input is welcome.. Thanks, .
Stan: Zemler�;
We need to find a developer who can design a new clubhouse with a REC CENTER w/
pool. for our community.. Then: revenue can be built by selling memberships to locals -
and day passes to visitors.. U could even include a health conscious food outlet to
provide for golfers and skiers and rec center users.. Right now thefood outlet is
providing mostly fried bar food only. which helps no one after a round of golf or nordlc
skling(if even open in wlnter)..Look. at Singletree clubhouse as example of how it's
done..Let the convention center be built in town where. the business' need the traffic of
conventioneers..
Thanks Dale..
Jeff Potto
r
ank God I didn't buy a season passlilll I only pay to play Wed Men's club. Not so
hen #18 becomes a temporary green back in the fairway. If Vail Men's League is still
the State Inter League come August, then what? I'm sure those who did buy passes
ll be getting- some $$$ back. Yea, right Sounds like politicians being sleazy as usual.
bcat Steve Thiesen
Thanks for the info, will try to go next Thursday.
figh Walsty
I think. the whole idea stinks. The nr.:!!w hale would have a 200 yard carry over the
ponds into thwa, w diad from the 'tfl;:ii, r. tees, and be located in "slicer central" off of 17. In
ar,:lrlition the neidur green %vi'll be located at the end ¢if the driving range where we
constantly find range balls in the 11:alr%ray. Why are we rushing into doing this instead
of finding a way to IMPROVE the course' Why do we need a wedding facility at the
golf course anyways? Does the rec board have an aversion to giving us a full season
of golf without temporary greens or construction? I am not happy about paying $100
more for my pass than I did the last 2 years and having a 2 1/2 month season of a full
golf course. I am not in favor of their quick fix of making #13 a par 5 as well, 2 par
5's in a row?
Michael Schwartz
Unfortunately I'll be working this evening and will miss the meeting... however I would
never have voted for the money to be spent destroying; the 18th hole had I known this
is what was planned for the Vait golf club. Eighteen is a great finishing hole; along;
with being the best par 5 on the coursell Good luck and thanks for getting the ball
rolling! .
Mark Colwell;
I work for Steven and. Robin Chotin whom own a second home located at 1835 Sunburst
Drive,. Vail.
We are in receipt of your email dated June 6th and appreciate your communication.<
Please add" the: following email addresses to any future communications in this regard:
We have been briefed by various parties on the new golf -course development plan and. are:
on board with: complete and total opposition to such a plan.:
Thank you,:
Jennifer- Land On behalf of Steven and Robin Chotin .
Dear Town of Vail,
The first thing you see when coming into town is the Vail Golf Course. It has been around,
almost as long as the town and is a symbol of Vail in the summer. Throughout the years
we have improved the course and in turn improved the town: To destroy part of this
history is taking at step backwards and is bad for the town and it's image. The cost of
destroying the golf course (3/4 million dollars?) should be able to cover a split level well
landscaped parking area. There is ample space for the new club house and any area to be.
disturbed should be to the driving range side of the existing club house, which would
provide a better view of the Gore Range. To pave over part of the history of Vail is a big
mistake and I think there are better solutions then destroying one of the greatest golf
holes on the course. Sincerely,
Todd Hatami�
Vail resident since 1979
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We need to meet with the VRD ASAP.
Margaret Rogers,
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Vail Resort Rental,, Inc.
970-476-0.900
www, VailResortRentalscom
Vistar Real Estate, Inc.
970-476-6223
www, VistarRea/Estate.com
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Subject: The Feedback is Consistent and Still Coming In. We didn"t know about it and we don"t want Iti
Dater Thursday, June, 14, 2012 8:20:50 AM!
I am opposed to #18 becomingg a parking lot. Although 1° am not a voter, 1 can
clearly see that the plan.,
presented to the. voters Is not the plan we are now seeing.,
Trudy Hower•
You. can pass my.name along as not in favor of more parking lot.
Thanks,
Goordy Ogden
Perhaps your could send us the plan. 1 would like to see exactly what is planned..
Thanks,
Lynn C. Gottlieb
I'm glad 1 found out about this. 20 years I've been playing the vail course ,and to
mess up ( ruin) hole IS .... why? it's really one of two true S pars on the course. �y
don't turn it into a parking. lot.. What's next... turning the Gore Range Into a
parking structure? Save the 18th save the 18th save the 18thIIII1
Scott Savage 20 year resident:
To whom It may concerns
1 have been a part time resident of Vail since 1988, have worked at the
golf course and continue to play it every summer. 1 oppose destroying
one of the top holes on the course for a dubious, at best, construction
project decided on by people who (1'm guessing) don't even play the
course. Golf and excellence of the course should be the highest
priority of the VRD, ancillary services and amenities MUST take a back
seat to the primary purpose of the course, which is the game of Golfll'
Eric Taylor
Dear Town of Vail, the first thing you see when ec-iiiiinfinj.,j into town is the Vail Goof
Course. It has been around almost as long as the town and is a cliymbad of Vail in -the
surnmer. 'Throughout the years we have Improved the couirswit and in turn improved
the. town. To destroy part of this history is tanking a bacl%vicinrds, and h1ii. b,anid for
the town and it's image. The cost of destroying the 4,11olf course (344 rnillboindollars?)
should be able to cover a split level well landscaped parking area. There is ample
space for the new club house and any area to be disturbed should be to the driving
range side of the existing club house, which would provide a better view of the Gore
Range. To pave over part of the history of Vail Is a big mistake and I think there are
better solutions then destroying one of the greatest golf holes on the course.
Sincerely,
ToT
odd Hataml
Vain
ail resident since 1979
Dale Bugby
Vail Resort Rentals, Inc.
970-476-0900
wwm VaflResortRentals. com
Vistar Real Estate; Inc..
970-476-6223 ,
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Tamm v Na e)
From: Dale Bugby <dalefromvail@hotmail.corn>
Sent: "I'hursday, June 14., 2(112 3:18 P!J
"ro. f,,,like Oftiz,; Kuri '01j'i'lsc:iin (..cintact; Joe 1-lanlon Contact; Jeff 'Niles Contact; Rick Sackbauer
Contact; Coi,.incil Dist I ist; Stan Zernler; CorrimDev; !Hatt Mire;
Georcile, Ruther; Bill Gibson
Subject: I hope you can all plan to attend tonights meeting. Here are sorne more comments
from those who can't
[RodnI am against the change to the 18th hole, I like the work they are doing on the course to better play but I think
I 18
8 is a great finishing hole. I am working but will join the meeting when I can.
0
ey Johnson
I have been living in the valley for 28 years and have been a pass holder at the Vail Golf course for 18 years. I totally
oppose
making # 18 a parking lot and that the new T boxes are on the other side of the pond on 17 be the new T boxes
foosr�1
# 1 . In vail where ever parking is needed, like at all the new buildings in vail, a parking structure under the building
has worked great. Please do not destroy one of the best finishing hole in the vail valley! I
Paul Seidman
We hate the idea, of changing. #18. Its a wonderful hole and a beautiful way to finish up a golf round. We love the Vail
course and this would be a real loss to the course. The goal should be a fine golf course; not a mecca, for event planners.
Robin and Ken Guerry
H How will driving range be affected? Balls now land where "new green", Would be.. Safety! I Also let's see the
R
Paul
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entire back, 9 reconfiguration they have planned! Not a very OPEN board! That can be changed!
o 0
susJ a -@dol,,
You're right, this Is a great finishing hole and we'd hate to see it destroyed., Thanks for taking on this fight ....... it sounds,
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like tfie�Tdwn is trying to pull a fast one.
C
Charlie and Ginny Crowley
I aim opposed to #18 becoming a parking lot. Although I am not a voter, I can clearly see that the plan presented to the
voters is not the plan we are now seeing.
TruTru
dy Howe
You can pass my name along as not in favor of more parking lot.
Thanks,
You
Ogden
Dale Bugby
Vall Resort Rentals, Inc
970-476-0900
www. VaMesortRentals. com
1
George S. Lamb
31.30 Bootle Palls Ct.
Vail, Colorado 81657
Dear Vail Council Member:
This year marks my 401" anniversary as a Vail resident. During that time I have had
the opportunity to be a member of a number of TOV hoards for over several
decades, including DRB as a member and later as Chairman, and the PEC.
Consequently I am somewhat aware how the process works andwhere it fails. These
positions were appointed and I tried to based most of my decisions oil what was not
only best for the Town, but also what benefited the homeowners as a whole.
There are basically two major and much interconnected engines driving our local
economy: The Shi Mountain and the related tourism and real estate.
As I sat our the "bureaucratic" side of the table, I noticed one major inequality of
our system and that was the lack of representation for the second home owner.
Although they own the majority of the homes and condominiums within our town,
they can not vote, nor does the Town give them adequate notice of issues which
might affect them other than rather cryptic memos which are usually discarded or
not even received by the homeowner.
The current golf club proposal is an excellent case in point. Reportedly various
development proposals have been studied over the last few years, perhaps at staff
level and/or in connection with the VRB members or others. In any event there was
all election last fall which successfully allowed the much disputed conference tax
funds to be used for certain improvements within the town. Even though the second
homeowner was excluded from this process, they may even have voted positively for
such a seemingly benign proposal.
Last month a zoning change was brought before the PEG under the broad brush
statement of allowing greater flexibility. There was little detail in the zoning request,
especially in terms of the chub house design. Some of PEC questioned this lack of
specifics and voted against the 4-3 outcome. As council members, some of you all
questioned the lack of details, prior to voting 6-.1 in the first reading. The second
reading is scheduled for June 19t"', and which reportedly will be tabled until your
July 3rd meeting and with a mandate for more collateral information and detail.
Tile golf community has conic out seemingly unanimously against the design of
shortening the 18t" hole and replacing the green with a parking lot. The Sunburst
Drive neighborhood has also voiced the hugely negative impact of these proposed
changes, not to mention the concerns over the management and operation of a mini
convention/wedding/event venire. This latter group tends to be a whisper in the
wilderness with no presentation except when they are focused to hire legal council.
Tile windfall of the conference tax funds should be consider ill the context of a
benefit for all of the community, especially for those neighbors most affected by any
change.
I ani certainly not blind as to the economic challenges we all face. Given the success
of the Donovan Pavilion, it is understandable why other event locations would be
sought. However I trust the Town's advisory group has factored in competing
venues which are or will be coning on line, such as VR's new on mountain facility
soon to be serviced by a new state of the art gondola, and the Four Seasons Resort.
Additionally one should not over looked the dismal track record of Bast club horse
operations, all of which can not be blamed necessarily on the infrastructure or the
operator.
The current golf club house and associated perking represents is a very typical,
introvert design. One which blatantly reveals a nnuch studied parking, traffic flow,
bus access and even trash enclosures, however without even a final decision as to
whether to remodel or re -build the club house. A part from the golfers, the one
reasoned party in all this conversation seems to be the Sunburst Drive homeowners,
those being the most impacted and most deserving the most attention as to protect
the environment, and yes, their property values.
A zoning change to General Use without carefully thought out conditions is also
very problematic for these individuals. Such zoning would technically allow ninny
even more onerous uses which another less thoughtful Council than you might
consider.
Please slow this process down. Show sonic compassion and understanding to those
who have no TOV representation or voice. Continue to foster a first class experience
for all; and most certainly, do not bite the hand that feeds you; year after year after
year.
Please remember you represent the Town as the landowner, applicant, the rule
changer, the administer, the building and project overseer, artd the eventual
complex management — a rather daunting position and one which necds to show all
example of exceedingly careful, thoughtful and compassionate attention.
Respectfully submitted,
Tammv Naael
From: Dale Bugby <dalefromvail@hotmail.com>
Sent.: Friday, June 15, 2012 11:30 Alit
1'o: h)Iike Ortiz; Ker -OP ilson Contact; Joe Hanlon Contact; Jeff Wiles Contact; Rick Sackbauer
Contact; Council Deist List; Stan Zemler; CommDev; Matt Mire; George Ruther; Bill
Gibson; billjsi.is.ir ,z@msri.com
Subject: Finger Pointing
Now that members of the VRD have expressed they never wanted to pave over #18 you have to wonder why this is
happening? When I talked to the VRD they blamed the planning department for requiring the parking. When I met with
Bill Gibson of planning he said there is no parking requirement on golf facilities, from planning or current zoning, but "the
PEC will be responsible for setting the parking requirement." I haven't met with the members of the PEC but I'm sure
they will blame the Town Council for adding too much "multi use community space." I did meet with members of the
Town Council and the Town Manager and they need to avoid using the excuse that the voters wanted this. The ballot
mandate did not include any particular square footage of "multiuse community space" and you guys wrote the ballot
language.. No where did that ballotlanguage include paving #18 or adding X square feet of community' space. Stop the
insanity and take, a position now that,#18 is no longer on the chopping block. As soon as we see everyone stand up and
be counted on this; we can go back to: building an improved clubhouse including some amount of "multi use community
space." Everyone including the neighbors will support that:. It's the right thing to do:
FYI"
Ballot Question NO'r i
Without increasing taxes, shall the Town of Vail use the remainder of the one and one-half percent lodging tax revenues
and one-half percent sales tax revenues collected from January 1, 2003 through December 31,, 2005 to fund the following
projects that will promote recreation, promote tourism and support the economy in the Town of. Vail:
Expansion and, improvement of the clubhouse at the Vail Golf Course and Nordic Center; including multi -use community
space;
Field expansion and restroom renovation`at the Ford Park Sports Complex; and
Ford Amphitheater improvements, including outdoor seating and restroom improvements?
Yes 801 No 122'.
Dale Bugby
Vail Resort Rentals, Inca
970-476.0900
www. ha#RdsoltRentals.com
141star Real Estate; Inc
970-476-6223
www. VistarRealEstate com
From: dalefromvail@hotmail.com
To: mortiz(availrec.com; kenw(a vail.net;, ihanlon9@gmail.com; iiwiles@msn.com; sackbauer(alaol.com;
billsuarez(dmsn.com; towncounciMvaiigov.com; szemleravailgov.com; commdev(availgov.com; mmire(dvailgov.com,
gruthend)vailgov.com; bciibson@vailgov.com
Subject: I hope you can all plan to attend tonights meeting. Here are some more comments from those who can't
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 201215:17:35 -0600
I am against the change to the 18th hole, I like the work they are doing on the course to better play but I think
18 is a great finishing hole. I am working but will join the meeting when I can.
Rodney Johnson
Tammy Nagel
From: Arthur Abplanalp <Art@A,bplanal pLawOffice.com>
.Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:44 PI`.4
To- Bill Gibson
Cc: 1,1att Mire
Subject: Golf Course Subdivision and Zone District Amendment
M
As you know, I have been engaged to represent one of the owners of property adjoining the part of the Vail golf course
which was recently subdivided and which is up for consideration to be changed from the Outdoor Recreation to the
General Use zone district. I understand that you are the member of the Department of Community Development to whom
this project is assigned.
For reasons that Matt Mire can explain to you, I must state that what follows is an effort to resolve a matter which may (but
which we hope will not) evolve into litigation, and, for that reason, its contents are protected by Rule 408 of the Colorado
Rules of Evidence and may not be used in any proceeding without the express written permission of the client of this
office.
This communication may fall on deaf ears, but I hope that's not the case.. The Council -will be engaging in a work session
this afternoon., and I hope that the message. I'm trying to pass on can come before them during those discussions
There seems to be little question that the golf course clubhouse should be dramatically remodeled if not reconstructed`
and that this was one of the three target areas for expenditure of convention center funds recently approved by the:
electorate Whether the elimination of the .18th green and a good part of the. 18th fairway was clearly approved is less
clear. In any event, the best information we have is that the golfing community objects to the latter part of the current.
program; the Vail Recreation District Board does not support it and the neighboring, property owners are vehemently.
opposed to that latter part of the plan: ,
It seems certain that this plan, if it proceeds, is bound for a long and arduous battle
Rather than engaging in that battle', it seems appropriate to shift direction as early as possible, in order that as little time
may be lost as possible: The Town apparently is currently being driven toward the proposed change in zone district
boundaries largely by the property boundary established by the subdivision plat which was approved by the PEC' on the
14th of May. The first step in redirection is to modify that subdivision plat in such a way that the parcel includes no
property relating to the 18th fairway and 18th green - perhaps creating the parcel line some distance north of the golf cart
path on the. north side of the 18th green: Upon approval of that modified plat and a continuance of the hearing of the zone
district amendment until the new plat is in place, the zone district amendment could then proceed based upon that new
plat, leaving the 18th fairway and the 18th green in the OR zone district, satisfying the golfing community, permitting the
VRD and' the Town to proceed expeditiously with the work on the clubhouse; and providing the stability in zoning to which
the neighboring property owners are entitled.
We hope that the Council will recognize that we are attempting to work toward a common goal here, and that the direction
suggested above is in the best interests of all concerned. If anyone has any questions, he/she may contact me.
Sincerely,
Art Abplanalp
Law Office of Arthur A. Abplanalp, Jr., LLC
Post Office Box 2800
Vail, Colorado 81658
970.476.6500
Lorelei Donaldson
From:
Todd Hatami <todd@ridenl.com>
Sent:
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:38 PM
To:
Council Dist List
Subject:
Vail Golf Clubhouse / 18th hole
Dear Town Council,
I believe there is enough room on the existing site for the new clubhouse/events center and parking. We do not need
to seen m� wn o ars o es roy a go course which we ave een trying to improve for the ast y a
parking structure.
Thank you,
Todd Hatami
1
7/17/2012
4-7-37
Tamrnz Pia el
From: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:3.3 AIM
kidlike Ortiz; Geoi-ge Ruther; Bill Gibsori
^tivll,uje :�I:: FIN: Golf course project
Collective council e-mail...
From: Eric Taylor [mailto:etaylor jjet.coml
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:45 PM
To: Council Dist List
Cc: admin(aOvailrec.com
%ibject: Golf course project
o whom it may concern:
I have been and continue to be a part time resident of Vail (4-6 months/yr). I hold a ski pass and play the Vail course 10-
15 times a year. I vehemently oppose the shortening or changing of the 18th hole to accommodate a parking area or
clubhouse expansion. Small changes could be acceptable. It is a great finishing hole, easily viewable from the patio area
or clubhouse which enhances the Men's club experience as well as the playing experience for all guests.
I submit to you to work with the people who play the course and not just consultants/architects/construction people when
you evaluate the changes, if any, to be made to the course. There is plenty of dead space available for
expansion/improvement.
Sincerely,
Eric Taylor
TammX Na el
From: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:10 )'qv1
To: George Ruthe.r; Bill Gibson; Nlike Ortiz
5:ubjec:t: F'vV: the 18-th hole
Collective Council e-mail.. .
From: TJ Conners [mailto:storaQe(avail.netl
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:10 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: the 18th hole
Hello — much has been said about the 18th hole but here are a few you have not heard. Vail's 18th is not only
the most beautiful in the Vail Valley, it is also the most beautiful 18th hole in the entire State.
Additionally, to quote our beloved Beth Slifer," Vail is about the quality of the experience" and taking away a
Valley treasure for a parking lot would seem to denigrate that very experience. And finally, Council if you really
need parking that bad, put some fee simple condos on top of the clubhouse and build underground parking —
after all you own the land and you can damn well zone it anyway you want. T.J
Tammy Nagel
From: Lorelei Donaldson
Sent: Tuesday, 2.6, 8:24
To: BU| Gibsmn;VVarren [ampbeU; George Ruther
Subject: C.-ound| Hear�rg Ju|y of the Zone District Amendment --Vail Golf
Course
Attachments: Vai|Tmvn�ounci|-�haprnanlJ�62Sdmc
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Original yNaooage---
Fronn:sandnaohapman
Sent: Monday, June 25.3U12S:45P&4
To: Council Dist List
Vail Town Council Members:
l"7.c'lb`ti:" be,k;71- Cy1'Jl"1s'rti ol:' property a6l.jac6.!rit to the IS"' ,::!ree:ll of the Vail Golf Col t -se since
r.:
i that :it is the , i.rl-; pect i::)1 --the. currerit proceeding to change the zone
di;str i, t I -l` that 7:'r.., , ti aa. parcel from the (: ,tit(Irir,.,ir Recreatir..)n zone d.i, tricat to the General Use
; One district. ''\70 oppose this cli a ge. Our ft-Imily purchased this home with the
understanding and the assurance that our property and the surroundings would always
remain zoned O.R. and a green area. This was entirely logical considering the long
history of the Vail golf course and the importance of the golf course (particularly the 18'h
hole in its current configuration) to the attraction of Vail as recreational destination
during the summer months. The current zoning, which was designed to assure the
community of the perpetuity of that use and has been relied upon by the neighborhood as
a whole, is essential for our neighborhood well being and our property values. We
believe there is NO legitimate or justifiable reason to change this zoning.
We highly value our ability to sit on our deck and enjoy mountain views in peace and
quiet. Our use of this property would be severely hampered with a parking lot and a
possible "events center" 50-70 feet from our deck. There will be an increase in noise,
changes made to the natural environment, and security issues that we would have to deal
with- how would you like that? Any other uses permitted in a General Use zoning area
are equally distressing.
Again, we strongly protest a change from Outdoor Recreation Use to General Use
zoning for the property adjacent to the 18`h green! There is no justification for a change
there -----we would approve of and enjoy the remodeling of the Clubhouse and change in
zone district under the current footprint of that redevelopment project.
For these reasons, we are convinced that the current proposal for conversion of property
from the Outdoor Recreation zone district to the General Use zone district should be
denied.
Thank you for your consideration in this matter,
Sandy and Lee Chapman
June 25, 2012
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Collective Council e-mail...
From: Debby Webster Fmailto:debby.webster(&qmail.comI
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 9:28 AM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: golf clubhouse parking area zoning change
Dear Town Council Members,
Attached is a letter from my husband and myself regarding the proposed change in the zone district of the golf
course clubhouse and a portion of the 18th hole of the golf course from Outdoor Recreation to General Use. I
would appreciate your reading it and giving it serious consideration.
Sincerely,
Deborah Webster
To: Mayor Andy My, �'AayorPm'teon Ludwig Kurz, and Town Council Nembers
Kerry Donovan, Kevin Fuiey' G/egNmffet. Margaret Rogers and Susie Tjossem
�e'new�Urg �oopposethe propnsed zonmgchan�eoftheYs8 GoU CLbhouse
�ing incarea �om 0u�door Recreation Lc) Use. Durproper�yi� one
an
.f those �hac adjoins the area,,hic- is to bechangeo to General Use. l have
owned this pru�e�Yfnravery(ong �ime since 199O` | have retied on che
ToxnofVail toecogn,"zethe importance ofthe Vaiigolf course tuboth die
economy of Vail and to the neighborhood in which it is Located, and a change
rom, the current Outdoor Recreation zone district woutcl viotate every standard
cobeused bythe Town Council indeciding whether such achange should
occur. Such achange would bean abuse ofthe authority entrusted to the
Council by those ofuswho Live in this neighborhood fuU'time aswoU as those
who have invested in this area with the expectation of enjoying peace and
beauty in their home away from home.
We wholeheartedly support the expansion and improvement of the ctubhouse.
AbceUit is long overdue and vviii be benefit to both the Recreation District
and the Town of Vail. At the moment the structure isan eyesore when it should
be awmrid'ciuo resort amenity.
Ba\intQuestion No. 1 which passed iastfaK makes reference tomulti-use
community space at theciubhouse. That proposal, has meant different things
todifferent people, as is iKustrated bythe various alternatives for the
clubhouse project. It makes no reference to moving the 18m green' shortening
the fairway, paving over the area ofthe present green for additional parking or
holding outdoor events such as wedding receptions' concerts, etc.. The
question onthe ballot had basically one over-riding alternative did the voters
wish to spend the lodging tax on improvements toVail, ordid they prefer to
return that money, in some uncertain fashion, to the visitors who paid it. The
question wasn't what the money shouidbespent on, but rather whether it
shouid be given back' No rational voter would have voted against it, regardieo
of the uncertain purpose for which the money was tubeused.
The area under consideration for this proposed zone district amendment is
bordered on two sides by residential areas. AK of us who Live in that area paid
a premium for real estate that's c\ose to a gu(fcourse. In our case, and the
case o/the owners ofthe other first four lots along the north side ofSunburst
Drive, we paid an even bigger premium to becontiguous with the fairway with
a fine view of the green. That green being replaced with asphalt, no matter
how weU buffered with vegetation, will adversely affect our investment in our
home. Since our house iscunentiyon the market, the uncertainty about this
project has already affected our abitity to sett and wilL have a direct bearing on
the sales price ,houidwereceive anoffer before this matter isseuiedonce
Mthough curphncipal concern i-- .-he -fact that the uses which*muid msu'r
from ti -.e coange inzonin§v^ouid descmythe quaiityoflife whichwe have
expc,iencec and�onti�ue Lorvzerienceato�rrrsidenoe, cur concem ill"ith the
c�argetoaGereol Usezon'ng is not i�mi.ed to -he `mzaci. of the proposed
uSeS000ur i`vcso/Jiefact that ,�em],ueof our oca', estate =Ki dmp
drsmabcai|yifs parNnglot is subs-.'ftuted for the cur,ent 1B`" green� It's aino
U'��manyd/f�eren�uyeshrihaiareacuuidbea�thor�edbyacnndiUnna|�se
permit. Those possible uses ;nciude u parkingstrccture' a transportation
terminal, aconcert sheiL aconvendon facility oreven a heiipad ora water and
sewagetreatment facility. Since the Town ufVail wou(d be both the
owner/appiicantand the governmental agency considering the application for a
new use, there would be nochecks orbalances on proposed uses. 4uext
amendment could also make additional uses possible ifthe Council were toadd
a proposed use to the conditional uses already permitted in the General Use
zone district.
|fthe new zoning were uzbepassed and activities such as weddings and/or
concerts were to take place in the outdoor space, it would be impossible to
prevent impacts on the adjoining properties, even ifthere were strict
regulations in place to control the noise. The Town could not effectively
control noise and other impacts ofan event in progress. Even now, we can
already beinbed inthe evening and feet the beat nfmusic that's being played
inside the golf clubhouse for wedding receptions. We can hardly imagine how
much *moe it would be with an outdoor event. This is residential area, after
all. It really wouldn't be appropriate for residents to be driven out uftheir own
homes bythe noise atten, eleven ormidnight.
Among the criteria tobeconsidered inyour deciding whether toapprove a
proposed zone district amendment is, "That the amendment iscompatible with
and suitable to adjacent uses and appropriate for the surrounding areas". In
this case, we are convinced that the uses allowed under the General Use
category are not appropriate for residential neighborhood, and no number of
conditions can correct the problems that would result from those activities.
Wehope that the Town Council will give serious thought to our objections and
*eurge that the Council deny the proposed zone district amendment.
Sinoeneiy.
Deborah Webster and Stephen Blanchard
1825Sunburst Drive, Vail
From: IMI—l"4
To. EQ,�rl U1511
Subject: Vail golf corce 10k
Date: jestay, lune 26, 2012 1:25:50 PM
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I to agree hole 18 should be left al0l le. lt, ot.iir best par 5 b,,,,,, far and a great
finishing hole. I don't believe there is any need for rnore parking. Is it necessary
with our season being our season is so short?
and in my eight seasons as a member i have never seen very much revenue brought
in by the restaurant/ ( weddings)
Tom Ludwig
Tammy Nagel
From: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:19 Prot
To: Bill Gibson; Greg Hall; George Pa.Aher; Matt Mire
Subject: FW: `Jail Golf Course Toning
Collective Council e-mail...
From: Glenn Hilliard [mailto:rglennhilliard@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:11 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Vail Golf Course Zoning
To: Mayor Andy Daly
Mayor Pro -tem Ludwig Kurz
Town Council Members:
Kerry Donovan
Kevin Foley
Greg Moffet
Margaret Rogers
Susie Tjossem
Subject: Vail Golf Course Zoning
Dear Town of Vail Council Members:
We write on behalf of the family of Heather and Glenn Hilliard, (my name is Glenn Hilliard) our
family's Vail home is located at 1801 A Sunburst Drive. From our deck and main living areas we look straight
at the 18`h hole and the clubhouse of the Vail Golf Club. We have owned this home since 1999 and prior to
buying this home we owned a town home at Riverbend in East Vail.
Our Sunburst Drive residence, like several other residences on our street, is adjacent to the parcel owned
by the Town of Vail, which is the subject of the current proceeding to change the zone district designation of
that Town parcel from the Outdoor Recreation (OR) zone district to the General Use (GU) zone district. We
have long relied on the prospective use of the Town's property for outdoor recreational uses, and maintenance
of the current zoning is tied to that expectation. The uses permitted in the GU zone district are incompatible
with the residential use of adjoining property and would destroy our family's ability to use our property and the
value of that property, and we must protest the proposed change in zone district designation. We strongly
oppose this change in zoning. There is no justification for changing the zone district designation for the
property on which the 18`h hole is located, and those of us who adjoin the Town parcel are, to the best of our
knowledge, unanimous in our opposition to this proposal.
For work reasons we now reside in Atlanta, but Vail is really the place our entire family gathers and
feels at home. For 19 of the past 20 years we have all spent Christmas together in Vail as well as getting to Vail
as often as possible the rest of the year. We love Vail and we love our home in Vail.
We selected this home because it was close to the Town of Vail but also because it represents and is
surrounded both front and back by open space and recreational areas. On the south side is the White River
National Forest and the bike path along Sunburst, and on the north we look directly at the 190 green of the Vail
Golf Course. While few of us are actually golfers, we enjoy sitting in our living room area or on our deck and
watching the camaraderie and competition on the 18`11 ggeen. This green space a7l.d golf course and usage
I,,-, very important to help preserve the sanctuary of our honie, as a. ,,daole, ,.l.1so off ers rur family and.
those of us who must deal on a regular basis with business li,d-e:: wl7.i.cla require us to li. rrz .much. of.° ol.:i.r time in
other locations around the world. Over the years, we have; invested. li.a° anti ily iri. to Out. 11c'llne in. the
belief that the open space sanctuary and recreational amenities surrounding us would be preserved.
While only a few of our family members are active golfers, we have hit balls on the driving range, eaten
at the golf clubhouse many times over the years, cross country skied in the winter and our middle daughter's
wedding rehearsal party was held in the golf clubhouse in January of 2000. We also work to be good citizens
and stewards of Vail. Over the years we have shown our commitment to the Vail community in many ways
including significant contributions to the Vail Valley Medical Center, the U.S. Ski and Snowboard Team
Foundation, the Vail Valley Foundation, the Vail Interfaith Chapel and the Eagle County Land Trust among
others.
We agree with council members that the clubhouse should be dramatically improved and updated, and
we also agree that the clubhouse absolutely can and should stay in the area where it is currently located and that
current parking on location and that which is easily accessible by public transportation is more than adequate
for current and future use of the clubhouse and course. Where we may differ is that we strongly believe that the
currently proposed zoning change should be limited to the area required for updating the building. Changing
only the building area zoning to GU and keeping the 18`h green area zoned as OR will help provide long-term
protection to the golf course and particularly to the 18`h hole and green. No change to the zoning south of the
clubhouse is justified. Speaking as someone who has actually participated in a daughter's wedding rehearsal
dinner at the clubhouse, we assure you that current parking is more than adequate for this type activity and for
all other potential uses. For our wedding reception the guests stayed at the Sonnenalp and used the very good
Vail bus system to be safely, warmly and soberly transported to and from the rehearsal party.
We support the change in the zoning from OR to GU for only that portion of the property which is
required for the clubhouse renovations, and to accomplish this will require a change in the plat previously
approved by the Town. We also believe that the change in the plat can be accomplished and still allow zoning
and construction on the clubhouse to be kept on your schedule. We further very strongly believe that it is
important to complete this project in a way which is environmentally and recreationally friendly. To
accomplish these goals in an environmentally and recreationally friendly manner will require a subdivision plat
which is different from the one which was approved by the Town in May. The subdivision plat should be
modified so that the "new lot" is only that property north of the current golf cart path (perhaps the north half of
the newly created lot), leaving the 18`h fairway and the 18`h green (roughly the south half of the lot) in the OR
zone district. The Town needs only the northern part of the newly configured lot for the clubhouse project, but
getting that correct description does require that the subdivision plat be redrawn and approved in new form by
the Planning Commission in advance of the adoption of the ordinance amending the zone district, which
apparently must be based upon the lot upon which construction is to occur.
Most of you seem to be clearly supportive of keeping the 18`h hole and green as currently designed, and
that can be accomplished while appropriately remodeling the clubhouse within a more tightly defined and
appropriate GU zone district. We emphasize the danger to the adjoining property owners, the golfers and the
users of the area around the 18`h green. That threat is the fact that changing the underlying zoning of the 18`h
green area from OR to GU as it is currently planned and platted will allow any future council to eliminate or
change the use of the 18th hole with little or no input or protection for the neighborhood, the home owners, the
golfers or our beloved Vail community. Once again, based upon our personal experience, no additional parking
is required at this site and public transportation is a safe, economical and environmentally friendly way to
accommodate all our purposes. The update to the clubhoui,e can and !..,11ould be accomplished on your timetable
with a more carefully and tightly drawn subdi-vision plat, a.nd flak„ 18`h hole and green can I:.�rotected �ti,ith a
continuation of its current OR zoning.
Please help us preserve this important open./recreational space in Vail by redrawing the subdivision plat
in a way which gives the Town the ability to accomplish its club house renovation objectives on schedule but
which does it in a way which helps protect our valuable open space and the 18`h green from current and future
development, and which limits the area changed to the GU zone district to the area actually required for the
clubhouse expansion.
Thank you very much for your consideration of our concerns and this suggested approach.
Glenn & Heather Hilliard
1801-A Sunburst Drive, Vail
TammX Nagel
From: Pam Brandaieyer
Sent: V,Iedresday, June '7, 201.2 4:J'9 PNP
To: Bill Gibscn; George Rl.A!-"ler; '"tali; N,Iatt
,55ubject: RVQ: \/ail golf Course zi:;ine I:JistTict al"'I"rd"a Cl f_' r'1C'll?P"I'i:
Attachments: VailTov�r�4 ourie..il.1.'2' );i2T.l:,clf
Collective Council e-mail...
From: Arthur Abplanalp [maiIto: Art@Abpla nal p LawOffice.com I
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 2:02 PM
To: Council Dist List
Cc: Matt Mire; Greg Hall; Bill Gibson; George Ruther; Warren Campbell; Lorelei Donaldson
Subject: Vail golf course zone district amendment
Members of the Council:
Please find attached to this e-mail a submittal for your consideration related to the proposed Vail
golf course district amendment which is pending before the Council.
Although we understand that the public hearing originally scheduled for the 3rd of July will be
continued, we also understand that the Council will be taking public comment on the question of
whether the zone district should be approved or, if reconsidered, the direction to be taken. That
being the case, it seems appropriate to enable you to review the concerns of the Sunburst drive
property owners adjacent to the parcel which is the subject of the proceeding. This analysis is
intended to identify those concerns without getting into the detail which might be required for the
actual public hearing, should that occur. If we are in error in our understanding that the public
hearing and second reading of the related ordinance will be continued from the 3rd of July, we do
request that someone advise me of that fact.
We hope that the attached review of the pending proposal will be of benefit to you and that we may
have the opportunity to work with the Town's staff in order to satisfy the Town's needs related to
the clubhouse expansion while protecting the rights and expectations of the neighboring property
owners and the integrity of the 18th hole of the Vail golf course.
We thank you for your consideration of the concerns which are being expressed.
Respectfully,
Art Abplanalp
Law office of Arthur A. Abplanalp, Jr., LLC
Post office Box 2800
Vail, Colorado 81658
970.476.6500
Law Office of
ARTHUR A. ABPI.ANALP, JR.
L.L.C.
vv`a,,a . a b p l a na.l pla�,vo f fi ce. c om
Art@Abplanalpl,a.NyOffice.com
AbplanalpLa.NyOffice.com
Vail Valley
Suite 310
Warner Professional Building 2
Post Office Box 2800
Vail, Colorado 81658.2800
Telephone: 970.476.6500 27 June 2012
Teleco pier: 970.476.4765
Town Council
Town of Vail
Vail, Colorado
Re: Proposed Zone District Amendment, Vail Golf Course
Members of the Council:
Fort Collins
Suite 260
Historic Miller Block
11 Old Town Square
Fort Collins, Colorado 80524
Telephone: 970.482.6900
Telecopier: 970.482.6905
This Office has been engaged by the Glenn Hilliard, the owner of a residence at 1815-A
Sunburst Drive, Vail, in association with the proposal before the Town of Vail to change the
zone district designation of and destroy the 18th green and part of the 18th fairway of the Vail
Golf Course. Mr. Hilliard's property and residence adjoin the property which is proposed for the
zone district amendment. I also am authorized to state that other residents of Sunburst Drive
who are owners and/or residents of properties adjacent to the threatened area join in Mr.
Hilliard's positions and in the positions taken in this letter, and I will provide the names of those
other owners and residents at the time of the hearing on this proposal.
It should be noted that this communication is somewhat abbreviated with reference to the
reasons the proposed zone district amendment should be disapproved by the Council because of
two considerations: (a) it is our understanding that, while the Council will take comments from
the public on the proposal during its meetings on the 3rd of July, the actual public hearing and
second reading of the ordinance which deals with the proposal will be continued until a later
date; and (b) the Council has enough before it to confirm the need to delay action and modify this
proposal (at the very least) without being required to deal with the wide gamut of problems with
this proposal when a resolution of those problems may be identified.
Against this background, please be advised that Mr. Hilliard, as well as many other
residents and property owners in the neighborhood, object to the proposed zone district
amendment and any significant change in the 18th green and fairway of the Vail Golf Course.
Some of the more specific reasons for our clients' objections are as follov4 ,S:
Substantive Objections:
The proposed zone change is unjustified by any legitimate measure under which a zone
change is to be considered. More specifically:
a. The proposed zoning amendment is inconsistent with the desires of the residents
and adjacent property owners in the neighborhood, who are, to the extent we can
determine, unanimous in their opposition to the proposal;
b. The proposed zoning amendment is not necessitated or prompted by any standard
which would warrant a change in the current zone district, or the redevelopment
of the clubhouse associated with the Vail golf course, but rather by a perceived
need on the part of the Town for a revenue -generating event area and a perceived
need for additional parking largely if not exclusively related to that event area;
C. The golfing community, the actual users of the subject property, has expressed its
objection to the change in the configuration of the 18th fairway and green both to
the Vail Recreation District and to this Council in no uncertain terms;
d. The proposed zone district amendment would destroy what many in the golfing
community consider to be one of the signature holes, if not the signature hole, of
the Vail golf course;
e. The proposed zoning amendment would permit uses which conflict with and
disturb existing uses on and destroy the value of adjacent properties.
2. According to the Vail Municipal Code -
"The general use district is intended to provide sites for public and quasi -public uses
which, because of their special characteristics, cannot be appropriately regulated by the
development standards prescribed for other zoning districts, and for which development
standards prescribed for each particular development proposal or project are necessary to
achieve the purposes prescribed in section 12-1-2 of this title and to provide for the public
welfare. The general use district is intended to insure that public buildings and grounds
and certain types of quasi -public use permitted in the district are appropriately located
and designed to meet the needs of the residents and visitors to Vail, to harmonize with
surrounding uses, and, in the case of buildings and other structures, to ensure adequate
light, air, open spaces, and other amenities appropriate to the permitted types of uses."
(Emphasis added.) Vail Municipal Code, Section 12-9C-1
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As has been and -vill be demonstrated by the letters and voices of adjoining property
owners and the golfing convnun.ity, the proposed change in zojie; district and die proposed
changes to the use of the subject property which would be permitted upon that change in
zone district designation neither meet the needs of property owners, residents, or those
who use the subject property, nor would the proposed change and related uses harmonize
with surrounding uses.
Most of the uses permitted in the General Use zone district are far more aggressive than
should be allowed in or adjacent to either a residential zone district (as is the case with
the property to the south) or an outdoor recreation zone district (as is the property on the
north and east). The current Outdoor Recreation zone district is the only effective
protection available to the adjacent property owners and residents against the following
uses which are permitted, under the conditional use permit process, in the General Use
zone district, but which are prohibited in the Outdoor Recreation zone district:
Churches
Helipad
Hospitals, medical and dental facilities, clinics, rehabilitation centers, clinical
pharmacies, and ambulance facilities.
Major arcade
Plant and tree nurseries, and associated structures
Public and private schools and educational institutions
Public buildings
Public parking structures
Public theaters, meeting rooms and convention facilities
Public transportation terminals
Public utilities installations
Type III employee housing units
Water and sewage treatment plants.
'I'll.e tollo,Ving uses 41cccssC.13j to a parl<.ing stnic i.:ire:
offices, restaurants, sundries shops, transit/shuttle services.
Vail Municipal Code, 12-9C-3.
Under the conditional use permit process, these uses "shall be permitted in the GU
district, subject [only] to issuance of a conditional use permit ...." (emphasis added)
Vail Municipal Code, Section 12-9C-3. If the Town now or at some later time proposes
such uses as the owner of the property, as here, it is apparent that adjacent property
owners and residents, as well as the golfing community, are unlikely to succeed in
opposition before the Town based upon regulations over which the Town has control. No
such debate will occur if the property remains in the Outdoor Recreation zone district.
4. Although the property owners and residents of the Sunburst Drive neighborhood
recognize that the Vail golf course is owned by the Town, and that the Town should have
significant flexibility in its use of that property, the Town also has a responsibility to
those who are adjacent to it, particularly those who rely upon the Town to exercise
appropriate judgment to protect the legitimate expectations of occupants of residences
who have long occupied those residences with a justifiable expectation of a tranquil
environment and neighborhood. Although the Town wears at least two "hats" in this
proceeding, as property owner/applicant and a quasi-judicial decision maker, the latter
responsibility requires the Council to evaluate the merits and faults of both the
application and the objections.
Practical Objections and Suggested Solution:
1. The fundamental challenge with which this Council is confronted at this point in time is
the fact that the current application is driven by a legal description of a parcel which
could have been intercepted and corrected prior to its consideration and approval by the
Planning and Environmental Commission, had its implications been identified and broad
public input occurred during the PEC process. The Municipal Code did not require that
action and such input did not occur, and the Town is not to be faulted for that early lapse
in attention. The subdivision of part of the Vail golf course which was approved by the
PEC on the 14th of May does, however, include approximately twice the area required by
the renovation/reconstruction of the clubhouse, being roughly the north half of that new
parcel. It is the inclusion of the area of the new parcel which includes and lies south of
the golf cart path along the north side of the 18th fairway and green (approximately the
south half of the new parcel) which makes the package objectionable to the neighborhood
and the golfing community. In order to respond appropriately to what seems to be a
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universal opposition to this c irrent proposa.l., tl-i.e 'l'o%,vii. shoti..l.d back i:rp, ,N icate the
subdivision map which ,xas approved by the FIC on the 14th of May (assuming that map
has been recorded), and resubmit for FEC consideration a different subdivision map
creating a new lot which includes only the ground required for the clubhouse
renovation/reconstruction, i.e., the area northwest of the golf cart path referred to above.
2. Because the boundary of the proposed zone district amendment is dictated by the legal
description of the parcel which recently was approved by the PEC and it is that boundary
which is principally objectionable to the adjoining property owners and, it seems, the
golfing community, a solution should be within reach. If the Town redefines the new golf
course parcel (and therefore the property to be subject to the zone district amendment) in
the manner suggested above, the current proceeding for a zone district amendment, with
the legal description of the new General Use zone district modified in a manner
identifying the property under the clubhouse as renovated/reconstructed, thereby
preserving the 18th fairway and green, could be less objectionable to the golfing
community and the adjoining property owners. This direction would best minimize the
delay (avoiding the necessity of initiating the zone district amendment from its inception)
and could permit the Town to proceed with its activity at the close of the golfing season.
Summary:
While there are other legal objections to the proposal currently before the Council, the
fact that the public hearing on second reading of the proposed ordinance is to be continued makes
it appropriate to spare the Council the necessity of dealing with those issues at this time. Mr.
Hilliard is optimistic, based upon recent communications with the Town staff, that a resolution of
this challenge may be identified and implemented, and we hope that there is a basis for that
optimism.
Based upon the current proposal, the application before the Town of Vail must be denied
for both substantive and legal reasons, but there can be little question that it must be denied.
Mr. Hilliard, and those who share his concerns, submit that it is the Town's duty to be
certain that activities motivated by its own perceived needs and agenda are undertaken only with
appropriate recognition and respect for the legitimate rights and expectations of its residents and
property owners. The residents and property owners of the golf course neighborhood expect and
deserve the Town's recognition and protection of those rights.
Mr. Hilliard wishes to thank the t-rj.CTrIi:)erS of ti -Le council for their COTISiderafioii ofhis
concerns, the concerns of his neighbors, and the opinic-ais oftl-j.e golling cominunity in presenring
r,-err-nfinn-41 asset of the Town of Vail of importance to all.
xe: Mr. Glenn Hilliard
Mr. Matt Mire, Town Attorney
Mr. Greg Hall, Director of Public Works
Mr. Bill Gibson, Department of Community Development
n.
From: P�rS" 2�dx
To: r_r_�rl�la II,k:3�7lgirka�� Acari
Subject: Vail Golf CLO holiz #18
Crate:: 1'husc!ay, Jxie 2.8, 2012,4:5E3-1 1:'M
To whom is making decisions on the future of the Vail Golf Oub
The decision to use excess and unused funds to improve the golf course facilities should be
commended. The club house is outdated and does not reflect the quality summer and winter activities
that surround it. But to consider shorten in than i nq or relocatin hole #18 is simply
finishing hole on any Qf411 jast
Every homeowner -contractor and builder in this valley has guidelines -rules and regulations they need to
follow when building a new or remodel structure. In this case the town should have to listen to the
people who vote them into office when moving forward with projects. The people who live here, play
.here and fund Your outdoor activities are asking you not to chanae-h hopey7u take the time
to listead what they are saying and come up
hole #18.
Sincerely;
a common sense alternative to paving over
The Woods
Peter -Kara -Parker and Barrett
Vail Homeowners-Taxpayers-VRD youth activity supporters, Vail Golf Club Members
Since 1992
Lorelei Donaldson
From., SARA NEWSAM <snewsam691@msn.com>
Sent:Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:10 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Vail Golf Course Clubhouse and 18th fairway
Dear members of the Vail Town Council: Please reconsider
shorten the 18th hole at the Vail Golf Course. As a voter in
new clubhouse a
so that it is a functiona
Thank you,
Sara Newsam
n
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7/17/2012
4-7-45
recent decision to
the people who use
r the clubhouse.
Lorelei Donaldson
From: stephen coffins <stcvail@yahoo.com>
Sent. Friday, lune 29, 201210:36 AM
To. Dale Bugby; VRD Board; Council Dist List; Alice Plain; Chris Johnson;
king_ad@yahoo.com; wgmd@hotmaii.com; rcwildvail@yahoo.com; bobwaish971
@comcast.net; rwilhelm@vail-beavercreek.com; bobzeltman@yahoo.com; BRUCE
FRASER, c.arford@comcast.net; vaildc@comcast.net; daverootl@hotmail.com;
kasingleton@q.com; wavygravey@hotmail.com; dgmg3142@yahoo.com;
skijetre@msn.com; Dennis Koller, d.pappas@comcast.net; dabel@vail.net;
stevieofpb@gmail.com; etaylor@jjet.com; Gene Henry; geoffreygroh@gmail.com;
geordy007@gmail.com; gsvaill3@gmait.com; guido1967@hotmail.com;
hug hpai ne@hotmail.com; jeff@jeffpotto.com; Jeff Wiles Contact;
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bmurad@yahoo.com; jeffrey.brown@rbc.com; shawn366@yahoo.com;
stevesimonett@comcast.net, j.moore@pga.com; bcollins@pga.com;
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sfcvail@yahoo.com; jland@chotin.com; schotin@chotin.com;
art@abplanalplawoffice.com
Subject: Re: REC Board Supports the Destruction of #18
thanks Dale. I'm in Austin and can't make it to the meeting but i will be emailing Kevin Foley and other council
we vtt—'R to remodel the clubhouse- we have to stow this desimn._ i hope the property owners on 18
their Iawvers =aLce thev have more to lose than anyone. thanks for keeping us in orm— M—
Stephen "Tex" Collins
From: Dale Bugby <dalefromvail@hotmail.com>
To. vrdboard@vailrec.com; towncouncil@vailgov.com; "snewsam691@msn.com; Alice Plain" <aplain@vailrec.com>;
Chris Johnson <cjohnson@vailrec.com>; king_ad@yahoo.com; wgmd@hotmaii.com; rcwildvail@yahoo.com;
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7/17/2012
4-7-48
Tammy Nagel
D+rorro: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent" rrid ,,i, Jure 29, 2012 4:47 PN1
'170: Greg Hall; Matt Nlire; George Ruts er; Bill Gibson
Suih,jgCt: Full: Letter to Vail Tov,ln Counr_il
,i•dttachollexits: .ettei fnanl Chotin - 1835 Sunburst Drive.pdf
Collective Council e-mail...
From: Jennifer Land Finailto:JenniferCabChotin.coml
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:06 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Letter to Vail Town Council
Dear Town Council Members,
In regard to the proposed zone district change for the Vail Golf Course, please take into consideration our attached
letter. Your time and understanding in this matter are appreciated in advance.
Sincerely,
Steven and Robin Chotin
1835 Sunburst Drive
Vail, Colorado
WWW.CHOTIN.COM' ,
TEL 303.741.0100 Jennifer M. Land
FAX 303.741.6948 Vice President of Administration
DIR 303.224.7419
CELL 303.886.0080 gland chotin.com
a. The Chotin Group Corporation
` 6400 South Fiddler's Green Cir., #1200
Greenwood Village, Colorado 80111
http://www.chotinfoundation.org
STATEMENT OF CONFIDENTIALITY; DISCLAIMER
If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified
that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this communication is strictly
prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify
us
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immediately by telephone 303.741.0100 or reply by e-mail and delete or discard
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and any attachrr,,ents (this "e-mail") are for information purposes onl,,j and
should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to
buy any securities or investment products or as an official statement of
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may have additional important disclosures and disclaimers, which you should
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June D6,Z0I2
To: 114GyorAnd,� Doly, Mallo/Pro'tenn Ludwvl,*g Kurz, and Town Council 0fembers Ke�� Donovon, Kevin Fo!ey, Greg
�o�orat9ogecsand St/ ie Tjosseni,
This |ettershaU serve as our formal vvritten objection to tile proposedVad P|annin# and Environment[om�ission's
Va\|�oM[oursezonedistrict amendment. VVe��ntheresidence|ocateda�l835SunburstDrive'\e�a|\ydescr\bed
asLot S'Vail Valley Third Filing, Our property adjoins the parcel vihich is fl -,ie subject of the zone distra arreri(fir-nort
proceeding.
We have been Vail Valley property owner's since 1982. The first property we owned was in East Vail. As our
children grew, sodid our need for space. VVehad always admired Sunburst Drive during our walks toand from the
Vail Village, the beautiful homes, the quiet street and all adjacent tothe golf course were an ideal combination for
us. In 1992 we purchased our stunning golf course property at 1835 Sunburst Drive. We paid a premium, because
ofwhere the home is located, our back decks overlooking the 18 t green, which is adjacent tothe area pogposed
for the zone district amendment. We are avid golfers, snow shoers and cross country skiers; immensely enjoying
everything this property and what the current outdoor recreation zoning our property has had to offer. |thas long
been aplace where wehave cherished spending time with our children and now grandchildren.
As our family has grown, sohave our interests and our time has become more limited. VVeare not able tospend as
much time in Vail as we would like. We have seen the real estate market recover to a degree and so in January
I012 we decided totry tu sell this home and potentially downsize somewhere else in the valley. The lack of snow
fall during the 2011/2012 ski season did not give us the amount of traffic as we obviously had hoped for. The
proposed zone district amendment would now be catastrophic to our effort. |tgreatly diminishes our ability tosell
this home. | would compare this proposed plan tntaking onocean front hotel room and turning itinto aroom with
a parking lot view, or into a room which overlooked, and therefore was to overhear, the noise and disturbance of an
event venue. We have not had a valuation done on what this would do to our property value, but will do so, if
needed.
It is incomprehensible that the individuals who planned this proposal could have the audacity tothink that this was
agond idea and would an acceptable equitable solution for the surrounding property owners. The potential loss in
home value, destruction of our views, loss in quality of golf, snow activities, event traffic and noise are simply
unacceptable to us ifyou were to change to aGenera| Use Zone District. Although this Council may have no
intention ofchanging the use to anything more aggressive than parking (which is pretty aggressive in and of itself),
any future Council could convert the property to any number of uses which would effectively destroy the use of our
property for residential purposes. We are in full agreement that clubhouse needs to be renovated, but slapping a
parking |cu down in the middle of the 18m green, and changing the zoning designation of the property to permit o
wide range of other destructive uses, is pointless, absurd and offensive.
We are fully prepared to take any actions necessary to insure that the currently proposed plan does not happen. it
is our sincere hope that the amendment is reconsidered and revised to an agreeable solution for all parties
involved.
Sincerely,
Steven and Robin [hodn
I83SSunburst Drive
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To:
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Dal t R: Fri Cay, I.;:'I d 2 0 1.' 3:1.3:09 PM
has Pr -gad a home in 1:1-ile of the proposed modifications to hole 418
since .1.983. We would not he in -favor of these changes to create more parking_aadJacaW__a pa
tenant on the current site of the 18m green. Patricia and DanLd Cook-
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Tammy Nagel
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Pam Brandrneyer
Friday, June 29, 2012 4:54 PNI
Greg Hall; George F.i.ithi:::!r,; Matt [:Hi Gibsori
FL^J: Golf course 18th F-k:::le relccai:ior"i
From: Richard deC HINDS [mailto:rhindsCabcgsh.coml
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4:10 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Golf course 18th Hole relocation
I own a condominium at the Willows Condominiums, 74 Willow Rd, Vail and visit Vail frequently to play golf on the Vail
golf course. Ljraatrongly opposed to the proposal to eliminate the 18th reeojLfavor of a parking lot and truncate the
18th of the signs u se. It wou not only downgrade the golf course slope (di Icu
making it less chs un to play it would have a negative impact on the look and feel of the golf course. Instead
of finishing a round of golf near the clubhouse -where you can watch others finishing you would finish on the outskirts of a
large parking lot and have to drive to the clubhouse a significant distance. The Vail golf course is one of the main draws
in summer for visitors to Vail and any changes should be geared to improve its playability not to desecrate the 18th
green.
There is a need for some additional parking but that should be able to handled elsewhere, perhaps by relocating the
practice area along the road to the golf course -or by use of a satellite parking lot. And what about improving bus service
so people like me and the other users of this new clubhouse do not need to drive there? Is that not a more
environmentally friendly solution?
Richard Hinds
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From: Dale Bugby[mailto:dalefromvail(cbhotmail.coml
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 9:38 AM
To: VRD Board; Council Dist List; Alice Plain; Chris Johnson; king ad@yahoo.com; wgmd@hotmail.com;
rcwildvail@yahoo.com; vailbob@comcast.net; bobwalsh971@comcast.net; rwilhelm@vail-beavercreek.com;
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Subject: REC Board Supports the Destruction of #18
In a stunning decision the Vail REC Board did another 180 degree turn last night and now again supports the destruction
of #18 starting on August 6th. Their comment, "if you don't like it you need to attend the Town Council meeting on July
3rd." Comments from the REC Board included, "you don't seem to have much support to save #18," even though 25-30
people attended their meeting two weeks ago and 40-50 letters to the editor all denounced their poorly conceived idea of
changing # 18 to a grassy special events tent venue and a parking lot. The fact that the Town owns the land and the REC
District runs the facility doesn't get the REC Board members off the hook. The REC District met in a closed door meeting
on June 21 to, "meet with their attorney to discuss their lease with the Town." Out of that meeting they drafted a
position letter to Town Council supporting their clubhouse design and the destruction of #18. The REC Board voted to
mail that letter last night even though it wasn't even on the agenda to be discussed.
The bottom line is mark your calendar for July 3rd on Tuesday at 6PM to attend the Town Council meeting. MAYBE
the Town Council will understand the primary objective of a golf course is the quality of golf, not special events. The golf
course is a major tourist attraction and a huge revenue source during the summer months and compromising it
for weddings and meetings only takes away business from the local hotels and restaurants that already own meeting
space.
Dale SU, by
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Tammy Nagel
From: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 4,32 PNI
'To: Greg Hall; Matt Mire; George Ruther; Bill Gil-dson
51.1bject: FW: Letters
Collective Council e-mail...
From: Rolvail@aol.com Cmailto:RolvailC@aol.com1
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 6:44 PM
To: Vail Daily(amail.vresp.com
Cc: vailciolfclubCa)gmail.com; Council Dist List
Subject: Letters
Vail Golf Course Alterations: As we now have learned, the Rec District and TOV have plans to shorten our golf course,
remodel the clubhouse and put in a parking lot expansion where the present 18th green lies. Major problems lie with all
three half baked projects. The golf course will lose a beautiful finishing hole, the adjacent homeowners will have arkin
lot view to accommodate r o ow se remo ect tha e -
years.
—TT ey say the clubhouse will be a remodel rather than new construction due to a lack of funds, but anyone who has
gone for a remodel rather than starting anew knows that remodeling a rotten 55 year old asbestos laden structure only
opens a can of worms with unforeseen cost overruns) Woyl_dn! it be more astute to allocate the hundreds of thousands of
dollars earmarked for tearing up our golf course, building anew green and constructing a parking lot for aster u�Tcn ay"'
horns or Jake
Respectfully,
Rol Hamelin
with cowboy truckers blasting their air
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Tamm Nagel
From: Pam 6randmeyer
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 3:33 PM
To: Matt Noire; George Ruttier; Bill Gihscin; Greg H;::111
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From: Alinda Wikert Lmailto:a(dwikert.coml
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 3:00 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Vote
I strongly oppose converting the 18th green into a parking lot.
Alinda Wikert
Galatyn Lodge
'Pammy Nagel
From: Pam Br-andmeyer
Sent: k1onday, Jule 02,, 2012 9:11 6JA
To: r,,lett Mire; Greg Heli, George Ruther; Bill Gibson
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----Original Message -----
From: CHARLIES SHIRTS INC. (mailto:charliesCa_vail.net1
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 9:08 AM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: golf course
WE have several family and guest here so will not make tue MEETING. I DON'T BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT THE
VOTER INTENDED. WE CAN MAKE THE GILDING WORK WITHOGT Maxi , 1RTH HOLE A PARKIN CST
BOB AND TRUDY WALSH
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D" a te I r4onday, "11Xy U, 2012 11:46:00 AM
Dear Mayor Daly,
We would like to voice our opposition to the changes proposed to the 18th hole on
e goat course.
iesecFa—noes will alter the whole character of the course and it will not be an
improvement.
If a large tent is to be erected on the present fairway I have no doubt that there will
be a similar outcry as occurred when the bubble was put up on the driving range.
We would appreciate your support in opposing the proposed changes to hole #18.
Yours sincerely,
David and Mary Goldstein.
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Tammy Nagel MM
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From: Olivia. Haxwood(abbh.com fmailto'Olivia.Ha)mood(&bbh.coml
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 11:51 AM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Conversion of the 18th Green into a Parking Lot and Site for Party Tent
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
As a concerned resi hard for me to believe that the Town of Vail Staff are recommending that the Town
Council a r the 18th hole o Vail arkin o an site ora a y
tPntLpngol iS cam; ictci�„^^^moatiblP with t P ari�ar.Pnt anrt sr,rroundina residences. n a I Ion, the it Goli
Course is an�attrar.tion for any. many visitors and to alter It In such a fashion Is a complete mistake.
Obviously, the Town of Vail Staff are not golfers and such an action could set a dangerous precedent for other open
space lands.
Very truly yours,
Landon Hilliard
2049 Sunburst Drive
Vail
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From: Pam 3randrneyer
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SubiAect: P.N: 13 th Green I.`i:1rb,:ing
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----Original Message -----
From: Frederick Wyman [mailto:fredwvman(a-)gmail.coml
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 4:29 AM
To: Council Dist List
Cc: Jim F Lamont
Subject: 18 th Green Parking Lot
July 2, 2012
Town Council,
Yet again the Town of Vail is endea destro the beauty that is Vail that has been created by families such as m
own who e e ' rom run amok over develo men a res o the wort o fin c
Years ago, I recall being encouraged to entertain if not support and certainly we should not oppose the redevelopment of
the Golden Peak area to allow for better facilities for the ski school and access to the mountain. We were told that the only
way this could happen was if residential development was also allowed to pay for the improvements.
Why didn't the share holder of Vail Resorts pay for their improvements for their commercial enterprise? We stupidly
acquiesced feeling that we didn't want to stand in the way of progress.
No sooner was the construction finished than unforeseen issues arose and ever since the Vail Resorts and the TOV has
rudely ignored the neighborhoods legitimate concerns. Traffic is horrendous at prime times making it dangerous to cross
the street.
When I was president of the All Seasons Condominium Association for a decade I would write annually to the TOV
requesting a pedestrian cross walk be put in so that the Association Members, our children and the public did not have to
run a gauntlet of speeding cars to get to the mountain. We were ignored not only by the Town Council, Vail Resorts, but
every other municipal planning department in the Town.
Now the issue of traffic congestion is before you again and rather than address a community wide traffic issue you fast
track a new Ski Club Vail facility for the benefit of whom? The business interests in the Vail Valley. Certainly not to benefit
of the neighborhood which is already suffering from your poor planning. The Town's valet parking which somehow
morphed into existence, which was never considered at the time and in retrospect was really disallowed because there
was never supposed to be transient parking located at Golden Peak is now being touted a revenue producing for the
Town.
Further, it was noted that the new Golden Peak facility polluted the night time with the light that emanated from the
garage. It took 5 years before we were able to persuade Vail Resorts to replace the substandard trees that were used as
screening and accepted by the Town. Not surprisingly the Town Council at the time was totally indifferent to our issue as
they have been with just about any neighborhood concerns in any part of Town.
Now some enlightened individuals are proposing black topping the golf course, destroying private property values of
adjacent homes, the area aesthetics so that the Town or friends of the Town can in some way profit from a business
enterprise in a strictly residential and recreational area and add more traffic to the area.
Unfortunately, I will not be in Vail on July 3 to share with you how I really feel about another of your ill advised schemes to
destroy Vail.
Hopefully the public backlash of the taxpayers will be such that vou will abandon this folly. Rest assured that I will make
o a enda Town ouncil meeting the n x ime I'm in Vail to share my thoughts a out this as well as on many
other planning matters including the hospital debacle that is being entertained to the detriment of another established
residential neighborhood.
Sincer�.!ly,
Fred W drnan
Frederick Wyman
30776 Dover Road
Easton, Maryland 21601
fredwyman(cDgmail.com
410 822 5680 PIF
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TarrimX Nage
From: Pam Brandmeyer
!-ueg•ht: Monday, July 02,, 2012 12:14 Pf,,1
To: Bill Gibson; George Ruther; Nlatt Mire; Gree Hall
RN: 118th green
Collective Council e -r -nail.. .
From: Gretchen Busse jmmailto_gretchengb(acomcast.netl
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 11:30 AM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: 18th green
however the planned parking lot at the 18th
Prm_whichwouidbe 50" closer to a blind^
hill curve on Sunburst Dr.
Bike traffic is very heavy and fast giving inexperienced bikers little time react to an exiting bus so close to the curve.
Sunburst Dr is used as an extension of the bike path by hundreds of daily riders many of whom are young and
inexperienced. The proposed new bus exit would be an accident waiting to happen
Thank You, Gretchen Busse
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Tamm Nagel
From: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent: Monday, Jul; 02, 2012 12:32 Pkil
To: Bill Gibson; George P.uther; Gn:,q Nall; Matt Mire
Subject: FW: A/aril Golf Course, Project
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From: CURTIS OLSON jmailto:curtisolson(abme.coml
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 11:14 PM
To: Council Dist List
Cc: curtisolson0)me.com
Subject: Vail Golf Course Project
Ladies and Gentlemen: Below is the letter I sent close to one month ago, and I still feel as strongly about this
project as ever. I am making every attempt to be at every meeting, but not being a full-time resident currently it
is difficult to do so. This project directly hurts my quality of life as well as significantly impacting my property
value. I truly hope you will do the right thing in preserving what is left of our valley. There are other options t
retain the 18th green and the magnificence of the golf course. Curtis and Kris Olson
Our names are Curtis and Kris Olson. We own the home at 1785 Sunburst Drive. The home is located directly
behind the 18th green, first home next to the Vail Golf course parking lot.
We and our neighbors are very concerned about the proposed plan for the golf course parking. I attended the
planning meeting to express my concerns during the rezoning vote where NO plans were presented. I will not
be able to attend the town meeting this coming week for I'll be out of town.
The proposal to remove the 18th green and replace it with a parking lot will:
1. Significantly impact my property value. And I mean significantly.
2. Significantly impact my quality of life.
Concerns::
1. The parking plan is to add a 35 space lot on the 18th green which is an incremental addition of only
19 parking spaces
a. Have all options been explored
b. Why not allow for street parking to accommodate large events
c. Valet cars on the driving range where there is no impact to homes and more space
available. This could be 100 parking spaces
d. Expand the parking lot between the 12th green and 13th tee box and shuttle patrons. This
could be used in the winter by snowshoers, ice climbers, nordic skiers
e. Expand the lot at the soccer field. You could shorten hole 6 to accommodate more
spots. Spots could be used in the winter for skiers and Vail Resort employees
f. Utilize Ford park parking and the city bus system which is one of the best in the country
g. Utilize Public Works parking lot on the other side of the frontage road on weekends
h. Have out of town patrons utilize hotel shuttles which all the higher end hotels have.
Removing precious green space to replace with asphalt in a town that is so lacking in green space would be a
tragedy. A net add of 19 spots will not allow for a golf tournament and event at the same time. So why do it?
2. There is a landscape proposal to block our view of the new parking lot, which based on how our
home is situated will not completely block the view. If it does, it will block my entire view from our basement
den, living areas, deck and master bedroom. No landscape Irl.a.n 1XIIl co.rne close to replacing our current
situation.
.�. There does not seem to be a T t."1.d;ITC'�l.Ik�'1:'1;:,V,
In summary, I love this town and the conin-fitm.ent the city has had to improve and l)Ie'scrve its great culture. I'm
a big fan of improving the golf club house but the parking plan has not been thought through. There are many
better options for the city and the facility to meet their needs. Removing a beautiful green space that is
currently a signature piece of property for a NET GAIN of 19 parking spots is not in the best interest of
anybody.
Our family and property is obviously directly impacted and hurt by this proposal.
Thank you for your time and your service to our community big and small. I ask that you consider more cost
effective, creative alternatives before proceeding with your current plan.
I presented these concerns at the May Planning District meeting as well as to Greg Hall (Public Works Director)
Michael Ortiz (VRD), Pedro Campos (Zehren Architects) and David Kaselak (Zehren Architects) at my home
on 6-1-12.
Sincerely Concerned:
CURTIS OLSON
719-964-8765
curtisolson(a)-me.com
CURTIS OLSON
curtisolson(@-me.com
TammNagel
From: Rarn Brandmeyer
Sent: N,Ionda; , July 02, 201.2 12:33 FINJ
To: 3111 Gil^,son; George Ruthi r; Greg l-lsll; N1
Subject: PdV: 18th I la,ie
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-----Original Message -----
From: Steve Cady [mailto:scady619(cDgmail.coml
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 9:51 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: 18th Hole
I for one am opposed to a change in the configuration of the 18th hole. I think it should stay as is.
Best Regards,
Steve Cady
100 E. Meadow Dr. #305
Vail, CO 81620
(714)931-2922
Sr
TammX Nage MMUMMIAW"MMAMMMM�_ M M
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Subject: FW:
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From: Susan Pollack fmailto:s.pollack(&comcast.netl
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 4:09 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: 18th Green
Please do not change the .....location or size of the 18`h
green. Shuttles from the parking structure can be used in case of a
.......... '
large wedding or other event.
Susan Pollack
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Tammix Na2e MMMMMMMM
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From:GeordyOgden
Sent: Sunday, July 01.2O122:3bPN1
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Against replacement of 18 green
Howdy Council,
I would like to voice my opinion a ainst tearing up the grass to replace with blacktop. Please find another ootion like man
you and keep our limited space green.
GmordyOQdan
Tamm Nage!
From: Pam Orandrneyer
Sen;t: %,Iw-iciay, July 02, 201. c 12:40 PN1
"no: i'i'J C:1sori; (]eorge. Rutl"er; Greg Hall; 1NAatt I'dlire
S4.abjerc : �:: r1':'tail wolf C. o u rs e
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From: John@JCarlson Lmailto:JohnCcb3Carlson.us1
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 9:27 AM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Vail Golf Course
In the course of events, reasoned and well-intentioned people sometimes reach questionable decisions. The golf course
controversy is a case in point. Somehow a tax targeting development of a conference center has morphed into an idea
unrecognizable from its origins int
Before the golf course proposal is voted upon, a few issues should be addressed in a public forum.
1. Did taxpayers ever etc; ress a ,1Pcire to shrink of the golf course, add parking, or add an event center to the existing
2. If the town needs additional banquet facilities, why was the Pavilion built at Donovan Park?
3. What is the expected usage of the event center, and what is the source of these estimates?
ition of an event center compete with private interests offering similar services in Vail? If so, why should
ho C-- to ,mmnPt_P with n ih11C v
5. Do property owners in the vicinity of the golf course have any enforceable property rights on this issue? If so, what
legal exposure would exist to the town and who will indemnify Vail taxpayers for any legal costs and adverse judgments?
6. If the plan is enacted, and proves a failure, will a reserve be maintained to fund demolition and reconstruction of the
original design? Or is the plan irreversible?
7. When did the golf course become something other than a golf course?
Perhaps each of these issues can be satisfactorily resolved. If so, the re -design is probably meant to be.
If not, all varties involved should start over.
John Carlson
Vail, CO
Tammy Nage
Frorn: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent: Nlonda,,, July 042, 2012 2 :5 2 PNI
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From: clorothy furstenberg rmailto:dcfurstenberciayahoo.comI
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:39 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Golf course renovation
We would appreciate all considerations to keep the 18th hole a par 5.
Thank you.
Peter and Dorothy Furstenberg 1130 Ptarmigan Road (43 years)
Tammy Nagel
From: Pam Brandrneyer
Sent: 'I'Vionday, July 02, 201.2 12:53 PNI
To: Matt Mire; Greg Hall,- George Ruther; Bill Gibson
Subjeczt: FW: the relocating of # 18 oil the vail golf course
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From: Paul Seidman rmai lto: pau lhseid man(cbgmail.coml
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 1:38 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: the relocating of # 18 on the vail golf course
Hi My name is Paul Seidman, I am a business owner, long time Vail local (28 years) and golfer at the vail
course for 18 years I am in favor of a new club house facility, but I am not in favor of destroying one of the
best finishing holes, and the best par 5 on the Vail Golf Course for a parking lot.we S+ nPP��e able to�',
coming in, at the
pmttn-g--In-V-a1IW`Fe-nwe redesigned many buildings in
great. Please do not destroy some of vails history ! ! !
xt4a.aQw�Ac I said before, whenever we needed more
Vail we went underground and it has worked
Thnx Paul Seidman
Tammy IVa el
n
Fraa,m: Darn Brandmeyer
Sent: "'1c,'17day, Juiv 02, 2012 12:54 PM
To: 'vlatt fN1ir;-'; E{ill Gibson; George Ruthe'r; Gree Hall
1.i"ith Hoie
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From: vailbobCatcomcast.net Lmailto:vailbob(&comcast.netl
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:04 AM
To: Council Dist List
Cc: vailbob@comcast.net
Subject: 18th Hole
I am not in favor of redesigning the 18"' hole. I vote sburswng the funds that were votea ana coiiectea Tor the
con ce cen er o�b�e—usedf s not aware a a tim that it included a redesig
of the 18 o e an da done in connection
wi e C u House redesign and repair, At the vrd meeting several weeks ago, I questioned the financial gain rpm -
including the "wedding chapel" in the deal and of course I realize that a meeting space for 200 or so can be used for other
than a wedding chapel. I was given a 1 paragraph print out that stated that among other financial benefits, the "wedding
chapel" was suppose to realize a profit of $5.6 million (does the golf course even gross that much?) with attendant
benefits of tax collections to the towns coffers, which I seriously doubt. The competition for the meeting room dollar is
very strong and private enterprise will bring your numbers down.
I have been a resident of Vail since 1990 and have played golf here on a regular basis since I could afford to after doing
the 2 job program until 1995. It is a very good golf course with a good design for a muni. It's only real criticism (not that
you couldn't increase the number of bunkers and put a few side slopes here and there) is that it is too short. & 'U a fe
yyards to 13 end callina it a par 5 won't take the place of making 18 a par 4 even if you have m the back to
''fnn vrls neer the water into a usua v -20 mph wind. It will slow do— wn piav n thP�P shorter will reduce t
to the other courses in
I am pleased that the tone of communications between the town and rec district has gotten better since Mike has taken
the reins of the rec district, but this to me seems to be a case of going too far to please the town fathers and
mothers. Imesae Uve of who knew what when, it is a bad decision to shorten -the 18th hole to a par 4. The other
neighbors in the area don't seem to be very happy a ou ra parking and the look of the new meeting room.
Thank you for your consideration.
It's a beautiful day in Colorado,
Bob Essin t
TammX Nagel
From: PamBrandme�'er
Sent: Monday, July OJ,2OI3I2:55Pk4
To: N1,9tt 'vlipsGeorgi: Ru1hecG,eg1a11�:Bi|Gibson
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----- Original Message --'
From:janetrey
Sent: Saturday, June JO.Z012S:Ju*M
To: Council Dist List
Dear Council Members, PI e do !�__Dass �thheplan to "Pave paradise and put up a parking lot". With a fi
Tamm Nagel
From: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent: 1'ulonday, July 02, 2Ci.12 1.:00 F -'h1
-'r,o: N`Iatt k, ire; 1:3111 C.�'I::: sr.,n; Georgie i?uthrer; Hall
S uIijec-t: FI,N: Cans. el"sicn c, i tine 1.8'l1 rperl
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From: Liz Schramm
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:33 AM
To: Council Dist List
- Subject: Conversion of the 18th Green
Dear Council Members,
I am not a golfer, but I have golfed on the Vail Golf Course. I do not agree with replacing the 18`h hole with a parking lot.
Lets not make everything in Vail cement. I am sure you can improve the original parking lot. Plus the
beautiful and very challepjgYing hole.
Cn manv tnujSt& 4Dya the hikesn +end golf course in Vail Please do not change it.
Thanks,
Liz Schramm
Property Owner in Vail
Tama Iia el
From: Pam Brandmeyer
S,efit, Monday, July 02, 2012 1:014 PT.4
"ro: Matt N,lire; George Ruther; Greg Hall; Bill Gild! -,,:an
bje11::t: RY: \ :all Golf Course Zone District Amendn1i°nt
At:t uChru•ueruts: Vail Town Council - Starfire Con-ipany Urrited,pof
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From: Arthur Abplanalp jmailto:Art@AbplanalpLawOffice.coml
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 6:18 AM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Vail Golf Course Zone District Amendment
Members of the Council:
I have been asked to forward to the Council the attached letter from the owner of one of the properties adjacent
to the 18th green of the Vail golf course..
Thank you for your attention to the concerns expressed in this latter.
Respectfully,
Art Abplanalp
Law Office of Arthur A. Abplanalp, Jr., LLC
Post Office Box 2800
Vail, Colorado 81658
970.476.6500va
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�Aembers of the Vail Town Council:
TheSt.arhre Co mpanyUmbed,is the ovvnerofLot 3,'Vail Valley 3rd Fi|in�:,F0with anaddress of1815
�unbu�tDriv�: ,VaU,CO. 'T'his property is one of those adjacent to the Town goifcoi..irsi.2 parcel vl--iich is
proposedfor azone district amendmentchangin8the Town golf coursepapce|from the O0door
Recreation zone district tothe General Use zone district. Onbehalf ofStarOreCompany Limited, 1am
authorized to state that Starfire and its owners strongly object to the proposed action.
The Vail Municipal Code establishes the criteria for denying or aporoving a zone district amendment.
The proposal violates each and every one ofthose criteria, asfollows:
(1) The extent to which the zone district amendment is consistent with all the applicable elements of the
adopted goals, objectives and policies outlined in the Vail comprehensive plan and is compatible with
the development objectives of the town - Response - It is impossible for us to believe that there is
anything in any comprehensive plan which suggests that any part of the Vail golf course is to be
converted to a parking area, events center, or put to any other active use permitted (with or without
conditions) |nthe General Use zone district.
(2) The extent to which the zone district amendment is suitable with the existing and potential land uses
on the site and existing and potential surrounding land uses as set out in the town's adopted planning
documents - Response - The conversion of the parcel to General Use zone district would conflict with
the residential uses of the adjoining property in many ways - noise, vehicular air pollution, destruction of
quality of life and the ability of residents to enjoy their property being examples.
(3) The extent to which the zone district amendment presents a harmonious, convenient, workable
relationship among land uses consistent with municipal development objectives - Response - The
proposal istotally inconflict with the residential nature -of the adjoining property and municipal
development objectives of the Town of Vail do not (or at least should not) include the destruction of the
environment or life experience of adjoining residents - full-time and part-time - which would be the
effect ofthis proposal.
(4) The extent to which the zone district amendment provides for the growth of an orderly viable
community and does not constitute spot zoning as the amendment serves the best interests of the
community as a whole - Response -The proposal does not provide for growth of an orderly viable
community but would effectively destroy part of a long-established viable neighborhood.
(5) The extent to which the zone district amendment results in adverse or beneficial impacts on the
natural environment, including, but not limited to, water quality, air quality, noise, vegetation, riparian
corridors, hillsides and other desirable natural features - Response -The proposal would destroy the
natural environment with specific reference to air quality, noise, vegetation and other desirable natural
features.
(6) The extent to which the zone district amendment is consistent with the purpose statement of the
proposed zone district - Response - the statement of the proposed General Use zone district indicates
that the purpose of that district is to provide "sites for public and gi.aasi-public uses whir:h . cannot be
appropriately regulated by the development standards prescribed for other zoning difst:r•icts" and "is
intended to ensure that public buildings and grounds ... are approprizitely lo,:atr:;d and designed to
meet the needs of residents and visitors to Vail, to harmonize '*ft -h 5urrour7di1'7g i..ises." E ache of these
standards is violated in the case of this proposal.
(7) The extent to which the zone district amendment demonstrates how conditions have changed.since
the zoning designation of the subject property was adopted and is no longer appropriate - Response -
No changes have occurred since the current zoning designation was assigned to the subject parcel which
would justify the proposed change'in zone district designation, permitting a wide range of uses
incompatible with the adjoining properties and neighborhood.
(8) Such other factors and criteria as the commission and/or council deem applicable to the proposed
rezoning - Response - There are no other factors or criteria which are applicable to the subject parcel or
to this proceeding and which justify the proposed action.
Based upon this analysis, the principals of Starfire Company Limited, as an adjoining property owner,
request that the Council deny the proposed change in zone district designation.
Respectfully,
Starfire Company Limited D
, / 6
By:
Title: VESEY LIMITED
Tammy Nagel
Frau: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent, "Monday, July 02, 2012 1:06 PNI
To: Nwlatt Mire; George Ruthe,r; Greg Miall, Bill Gibsor,i
Subject;: FIN: 18th Dole
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From: zgjink(daol.com [mailto•zgjink aol.coml
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 6:40 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Fwd: 18th hole
-----Original Message-----
From: zgjink <zc oink(
Daol.com>
To: admin <adminCc_Dvailrec.com>
Sent: Fri, Jun 29, 2012 6:33 pm
Subject: 18th hole
Very opposed to destroying 18th hole ,poorly worded on ballot never would have voted on this if i knew what your agenda
is
VRD and this was our "gift' thank you very little.
Tammy Nagel.
From: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent: ".Monday, July 01", 20121 1:05 pl"I
to bAatt k4ire; George Ruther; Gree.1 Hall; I' ill Gil -.)!-,nil
Subject: F%N: VAIL GOLF CIA.JB AND hJ(JRDIC CEI,Jfl'*EP; REk,41:'..) SEL ,1"0,1D 1;13'f I i I FtEALI&�INIENF
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From: L Vande Garde rmailto: Iva ndecia(a)swbell. netl
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 10:11 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: VAIL GOLF CLUB AND NORDIC CENTER REMODEL AND 18TH HOLE REALIGNMENT
I have owned a condo in the Vail village core since 1978 and have played literally hundreds of rounds of golf at
the Vail Public Course in the years since then. . I was verydisappointed taJiear_abQuLLbe propgacd-changg'sto
the 18th hole when I played there last month. I think
it to a par 4 would ruin it. I hope the Vail Town Council will find a better way of dealing with the
ofe:n:n it a par 4 wo� it.
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remodel
It c 21 iz ol co
ernodel thanc an�ging t Feggol course.
Larry D Vande Garde, MD
Creekside #2
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Tammy Nagel
From: Pam Brandmeyer
Senn: Monday, Jul; 02, 2():1.2 1:09 pNel
To: k4att N,fire; Greg F k ll,; (::e,::)rr.: e Ruther; EIPI
Subject: RIJ: 1,1311"h H&e P,�.arkiril::7 1_1::7t
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From: Carrie Walker Lmailto•carrieswalkerC�gmail.coml
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 5:32 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: 18th Hole Parking Lot
Town of Vail Representatives,
As an owner in Vail and member of the Vail Homeowners Association, I have been made aware of the town's
plans to demolish the 18th green of the Vail golf course and replace it with a parking lot/tent are for social
engagements. I do not of this move it will decrease the beauty of the golf course, increase noise and
traffic for nei bbors and decrease the beauty of the town of Vail. Plus, the town has done nothing to
communicate with out of town property owners - owners who also have a large stake in the town's growth,
prosperity, and master plan.
Regards,
Carrie Walker
,� I
Lorelei Donaldson
From: Malin Johnsdotter <malin@vail.net>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 3:18 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: 18 th hole
Dear Vail Town Council,
It is with great sadness I have read the info about vniir plansurnin Vail Golf Course 18 th green into a
par 'ing lot. I uncleirEsita!nd2that ou would like to add a party tent too. Well I understand that you want to make the
restaurant at the Golf Course more profitable and of course it is a weindQrful_location for weddings and parties.Tut do
you really think that it i a reen health parklike piece of land into a concrete parking lot?! though t tha
we in ail wanted to preserve nature and onEnsoace._
Do you want to build this new parking lot for the restaurant or is it for the golfers? I play golf at Vail Golf course most
days during the summer and I admit that the parking lot can be pretty full on weekends but 1 do not think I have ever
had to turn away. Are you expecting more golfers? Can the course host more golfers? Is that the reason to destroy the
green on the 18th hole?
Lots of question come to my mind. Like, Is Donovan Pavilion used to maximum so Vail need another party location/
tent? If you want the restaurant to make more money why not start to improve the daily use of the restaurant so more
golfers eat and spend more time in the restaurant. The golf restaurant at my old club in Sweden is located 7 miles from
centrum of town and it serves such a wonderful lunch that it is packed each lunch with guests who drive out or take the
bus from town just to enjoy the food and the atmosphere. I feel so sad for the homeowners who have their homes next
to the 18th green. I would be devastated if I had to wake up with a parking lot just outside my door. Would it be possible
to improve the schedule for the Town of Vail buses out to the golf course so people can park at other locations?
I hope that eve bo ill come to the meeting Tuesday Jul 3r -d andspeak up a
that the Town of Vail will listen to the people and the Homeowners who are a ected. I am sad I cannot be there bu
am in weden but I will wit you in my t oug ts. Please think t is ro very care ully.
Malin Johnsdotter Zeltman
Malin Johnsdotter
Ski & Snowboard Instructor
1779 Sierra Trail #A
VAIL, CO 81657, USA
970 479 5597 h
970 376 6526 c
malin@vail.net
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Tammy Nagel
From: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 4:50 PM
To: Matt Aire; George Ruther; Greg Hall; Bill Gibson
Subject: FW: Vail ciolf Course Rernodel
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From: Bob Zeltman fmailto:bobzeltmanCaD.yahoo.coml
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 4:50 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Vail golf Course Remodel
Hi, Bob Zeltman here. After attending the last 2 VRD meetings_I can only say why did I vote for these �uvs?
Not one person supports1� e— avin the 18th hole and a= as is. Are ? The VRD would be sin 'n a
i Brent tune ifwere adihome owners. ust ask' law suits against the town and wastin
tax payer monies.
The VRD is way out of line in my opinion. I've been to Donovan Park for a wedding and it's a great location. I
also doubt that it's booked every day of the year so why the need for more event space? This is a mini
conference center that we keep voting down! I voted for an improved club house so we don't have to say to
people tbatihis is the best. we can do in a wor d class resort! Not turn the V
event center. The town doesn't need to compe a with all t e con erence roo sin Vail hotels. _
The 18th holeand green is too beautiful a location to destroy. We need a club house and restaurant like every
down valley golf course has. One that serves good food in that beautiful setting. I just returned from Ostersund,
Sweden. It is north of Anchorage, Alaska about an hour from Are where the Skiing World Championships were
held recently. The restaurant has table cloths on the tables and cloth napkins and serves 3 entres and a huge
buffet and it is packed with both golfers and non golfers. The prices were reasonable which might explain why
they were doing a great business. In short it has class! Something the VGC sorely needs. Stop trying to turn the
golf course club house into something it was never intended to be. Thanks for listening. Bo Zeltman
Tammx Na el
From: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent: Monday, July 02, 20124:49 PM
To: Matt Mire; Greg Hall; Georige Ruther; Bill Gibsc.n
Subject: FW: `/ail golf course & proposed parkiric lot
Importance: High
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From: T Smith Vail [mailto•tws vailsmith.com_l
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 4:25 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Vail golf course & proposed parking lot
Importance: High
Dear Honorable Council Members:
Please do not vote in favor of the Town trading grass for asphalt.
I believe the town citizens voted to improve the building at the Vail Golf Course, not take away green space.
Did the voters really vote to replace green with a parking lot?
Significantly, it would be financially detrimental to the property values of the adjoining owners, and unfair to
the other residents.
Perhaps the VCG operation could include valet parking for any additional needs?
I look forward to the much needed improvements of the existing building and continued "green" landscaping.
Thank you for your time regarding this important matter,
Respectfully,
Owner, Mountain Haus condominium
Vail Board of Realtors member 25 years
VailSmith Properties
P.O. Box 3462
Vail, Colorado 81658 USA
Lorelei Donaldson
From:
CURTIS OLSON <curtisolson@me.com>
Sent:
Saturday, June 02, 2012 7:00 PM
To:
Council Dist List
Cc-
curtisolson@me.com
Subject:
Golf Course Parking Plan
Our names are Curtis and Kris Olson. We own the home at 1785 Sunburst Drive. The home is located directly
behind the 18th green; first home next to the Vail Golf course.
We our neighbors are very concerned about the proposed plan for the golf course parking. I attended the
planning meeting to express my concerns during the rezoning vote where NO plans were presented. I will not
be able to attend the town meeting this coming week for I'll be out of town.
The proposal to remove the 18th green and replace it with a parking lot will:
1. Significantly impact my property value. And I mean significantly.
2. Significantly impact my quality of life.
Concerns::
1. The parking plan is to add a 35 space lot on the 18th green which is an incremental addition of only
19 parking spaces
a. Have all options been explored.
b. Why not allow for street parking to accommodate large events
c. Valet cars on the driving range where there is no impact to homes and more space
available. This could be 100 parking spaces
d. Expand the parking lot between the 12th green and 13th tee box and shuttle patrons. This
could be used in the winter by snowshoers, ice climbers, nordic skiers
e. Expand the lot at the soccer field. You could shorten hole 6 to accommodate more
spots. Spots could be used in the winter for skiers and Vail Resort employees
f. Utilize Ford park parking and the city bus system which is one of the best in the country
g. Utilize Public Works parking lot on the other side of the frontage road on weekends
h. Have out of town patrons utilize hotel shuttles which all the higher end hotels have.
Removing precious green space to replace with asphalt in a town that is so lacking in green space would be a
tragedy. A net add of 19 spots will not allow for a golf tournament and event at the same time. So why do it?
2. There is a landscape proposal to block our view of the new parking lot, which based on how our
home is situated will not completely block the view. If it does, it will block my entire view from our basement
den, living areas, deck and master bedroom. No landscape plan will come close to replacing our current
situation.
3. There does not seem to be a management plan for the new property.
In summary, I love this town and the commitment the city has had to improve and preserve its great culture. I'm
a big fan of improving the golf club house but the parking plan has not been thought through. There are many
better options for the city and the facility to meet their needs. Removing a beautiful green space that is
currently a signature piece of property for a NET GAIN of 19 parking spots is not in the best interest of
anybody.
Our family and property is obviously directly impacted and hurt by this proposal.
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Thank you for your time and your service to our community big and small. I ask that you consider more cost
effective, creative alternatives before proceeding with your current plan.
I presented these concerns at the May Planning District meeting as well as to Greg Hall (Public Works Director)
Michael Ortiz (VRD), Pedro Campos (Zehren Architects) and David Kaselak (Zehren Architects) at my home
on 6-1-12.
Sincerely Concerned:
CURTIS OLSON
719-964-8765
curtisolson(ED-me.com
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Lorelei Donaldson
From: Karla Sjogren <kksvail@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, July 02,2012 1035 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: golf course 18th hole converstion
The 18th hole should not be changed to a par four and the tee box sho
stamp. Vail has a nice course and it is your draw for the public/ golf di
h evah improvistaurai
Rffer t ns d sirin an attractive restaurant with good food and a incredlt
need to provide party venues, update the current restaurant. Management
outsourced. Use the onsite liquor license to increase revenue dollars.
be reduced to postage
view.. If you feel the
the rest. needs to
The changes made to hole seven did not maximize a spectacular tee box when the the opportunity
was available. And tee box and number 3 hole were changed to be very ordinary.... Imagination and
creativity were not used. Short sided use of the funds. Do not do the same to hole 18.
If you have monies left over after the clubhouse remodel is completed, they could be used to upgrade
the greens on the golf course.
I believe the voters provided fund for the golf course facility and not a party venue to support other
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Tammy Na el
From: Parn Erandmeyer
Sent: Tuesday, )uiy 03, 2012 12:52 PNI
To: Matt N,lire; Gec;rge PUJther; Greg Hall; Neill Gibson:
Stilbje-apt: Fled: Golf Club Changes
Collective Council e-mail.. .
From: Rolvail@aol.com rmaiIto: Rolvail aol.coml
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:00 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Golf Club Changes
Dear Town Council;
I have attended the last several meetings of the Vail Rec Board and would strongly suggest a go slow approach to the
proposed changes!
Please go ahead with the rebuilding of the clubhouse, hopefully from scratch so we are not revisiting in the future. This
is absolutely necessary as you are aware. But let us wait on a chan es to the 18th fairwa and reen till we see 'ust
what the demand will be? An a so re communit in ut as we have area several r
elieve this approach is one of the two plans being presented Tuesday eve.
Thanks so much.
Respectfully,
Rol Hamelin
Ingie Franberg
Lorelei Donaldson
From: Lee S. Chapman <Ieapin66@me.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 2:42 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Fwd: Town Council hearing 1uly3, 2012 --Zone District Amendment--Vaill Golf Course
Attachments: Vail Town Council-Chapman.120625a.doc; ATT00001.htm
Please consider this letter pertaining to your meeting tonight -----thank you!
Lee and Sandy Chapman
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Lee S. Chapman" <lea2In66@-M-e.Com>
Date: July 3, 2012 3:19:12 PM CDT
To: Chapman Lee <Ieapin66CcDmac.com>
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Vail Town Council Members:
We have been owners of property adjacent to the 18`h green of the Vail Golf Course since
1993. We understand that it is the subject of the current proceeding to change the zone
district of that Town parcel from the Outdoor Recreation zone district to the General Use
zone district. We oppose this change. Our family purchased this home with the
understanding and the assurance that our property and the surroundings would always
remain zoned O.R. and a green area. This was entirely logical considering the long
history of the Vail golf course and the importance of the golf course (particularly the 18`h
hole in its current configuration) to the attraction of Vail as recreational destination
during the summer months. The current zoning, which was designed to assure the
community of the perpetuity of that use and has been relied upon by the neighborhood as
a whole, is essential for our neighborhood well being and our property values. We
believe there is NO legitimate or justifiable reason to change this zoning.
We highly value our ability to sit on our deck and enjoy mountain views in peace and
quiet. Our use of this property would be severely hampered with a parking lot and a
possible "events center" 50-70 feet from our deck. There will be an increase in noise,
changes made to the natural environment, and security issues that we would have to deal
with- how would you like that? Any other uses permitted in a General Use zoning area
are equally distressing.
Again, we strongly protest a change from Outdoor Recreation Use to General Use
zoning for the property adjacent to the 18`h green! There is no justification for a change
there -----we would approve of and enjoy the remodeling of the Clubhouse and change in
zone district under the current footprint of that redevelopment project.
For these reasons, we are convinced that the current proposal for conversion of property
from the Outdoor Recreation zone district to the General Use zone district should be
denied.
Thank you for your consideration in this matter,
Sandy and Lee Chapman
June 25, 2012
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4-7-74
Tammy Nagel
From: Pam Brandmeyer
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012" 2:02 PM
To: George RUther; Bill
Subject: FV,t: S, fety Debate
Collective Council e-mail...
From: Dale Bugby jmai Ito: DBugby(@VailResortRentaIs. Coml
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:30 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Safety Debate
If you real) think #18 is unsafe you need to check
you a e last mee in si ned o t' , and
be safe Anyth*wJ Q etc
close #10 tomorrow.
Dale Bugby
Vail Resort Rentals, Inc.
970-476-0900
www.vailresortrentals.com
Vistar Real Estate, Inc.
970-476-6223
www.vistarrealestate.com
information.
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it venue with a roc
#18 is now unsaf(
an
Tammy Nagel
From: Parn Brandmeyer
Sent: T11ursclaN/, July 05, 21112 3:3 6 PNd
To: Gec:irge Ruther; Greig I!all; "till Gibson; N1,:At N, ire
Subject: FVV:Tr.-,;drt Cciur'ir..il rriael:inr.:a ;7,r3;']:.<..L.I..n, I6!:al Story
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From: Bob Zeltman ,[mailto:bobzeltmanCdyahoo.coml
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 10:57 PM
To: Council Dist List
Subject: Town Council meeting 7/3/12 The Real Story
Hi everybody, this is directed at the non golfers among you for the most part. After listening to the various
presentations, here's what you are not being told by the studies. First of all golf like any other athletic activity
has inherent risks. Take skiing for example, you will never safety proof the mountain just as you will never
safety proof the golf course. Being both a skier and a golfer in Vail since the fall of 89 when I moved here has
given me insights that don't appear in the "professional studies."
Anyone who plays golf knows that you can be hit by an errant golf ball anywhere on the course or nearby for
that matter at any time. The so called danger zone on the 18th fairway is just one of many. The club that you use
determines how far the ball goes. The study only considers the driver. We have all hit a 9 iron or 8 iron over the
net from the driving range and the balls land either on the club house or in the parking area. You could string
steel cable from the top of every post across the driving area and cover the range with netting to contain the
balls, but that is only one area of the course.
Hole number one tee shots can go left across the street and hit cars, people on bikes and the townhouses or they
can go right and land on golfers comming up the 9th fairway.
Hole number 4 tee shots can hit homes, people and cars left and right there. Hole number 5 you can hit people
comming up the 6th fairway with a slice. Hole number 7 you can hit people teeing off on the 8th tee box. You
can slice your tee shot from the 8th tee box and the balls can land on people on the 2nd green. On the 9th tee
you can slice your shot back to the first green and fairway.
This happens every day that the course is open. Hole number 12 you can hit people on the 16th fairway. Hole
number 13 you can hit someone on the 14th fairway and from the 14th tee you can slice the ball back to the
13th fairway. Hole number 16, you can hit people on the 12th fairway. On the 18th tee you can hit someone on
the 11 th tee box. It's the nature of the game.
The safety isssue on the 18th fairway is just a crutch to push an agenda to relocate the 18th green, MayLe, w at
you sh is t ere ity isn't enougri space or t e event center on a large scale at the c1uh houseL
ocation. Why don't you use the waste land area on the south s th Fwa foryo-ur event Out-er? It
a so has a nice view of the Gore Range. Thanks for listening. Bob Zeltman
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From: Wayne Wright-HPU [mailto•hpli@p_do nett
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:02 AM
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Subject: #18 green
I am a 2nd homeowner and bought in Vail on the Potato Patch area. We truly like the tranquility and enjoy the Vail life
experiences and have played golf a number of times. When I learne obble up part of
the Rolf course I s if home on the 18th green and woke u
one day looking -at a parking lot.
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Houston Procurement and Logistics Intl, Inc.
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Subject: Vail Golf Course - Dest:ruc..tion};'Recor,figu.ration of 18tH Fairway and Green
Attachments: TownCourici L�d'GC.120711.pdf
Members of the Council (and, by copy, Vail Recreation District)
The Council has identified a number of reasons for its consideration of the destruction and
reconfiguration of the 18th fairway of the Vail Golf Course. Because it is unrealistic to expect
anyone to be able to deal with each of those reasons within a two- or three-minute opportunity at a
Council (or Board) meeting, it seems necessary to provide you with a written analysis of the
various problems with the action which is under consideration. That analysis is attached.
We hope that you will have an opportunity to review these thoughts and concerns before the
Council meeting on the 17th of July (and, with reference to the VRD Board, before its meeting
tomorrow, the 12th of July), and that the concerns and issues raised will cause both the Council and
the Board to reverse the course of action which will be under discussion.
If either any members of the Council or the Board, or any members of the Town staff, has any
questions, you may contact me.
Thank you for your attention to these concerns.
Respectfully,
Art Abplanalp
Law Office of Arthur A. Abplanalp, Jr., LLC
Post Office Box 2800
Vail, Colorado 81658
970.476.6500
'loll Valley
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Warner Professional Building 2
Post Office Box 2800
Vail, Colorado 81658-2800
Telephone: 970.476.6500
Telecopier: 970.476.4765
Town Council
Town of Vail
Vail, Colorado
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Proposed Reconfiguration of 18th Fairway and Green, Vail Golf Course
Members of the Council:
As the members of the Council are aware, this Office has been engaged by Glenn
Hilliard, the owner of a residence at 1801-A Sunburst Drive, Vail, in association with the
proposal before the Town of Vail to destroy and relocate the 18th green and part of the 18th
fairway of the Vail Golf Course as well as the proposed zone district amendment related to that
action. Mr. Hilliard's property and residence adjoin the property where that action is proposed.
Mr. Hilliard has been joined by other residents of Sunburst Drive who are owners and/or
residents of properties adjacent to the threatened area, and as a group they have attempted to
identify for the benefit of the Council and the Vail Recreation District the many reasons which
warrant abandonment of the current plan. The points and concerns expressed by Mr. Hilliard and
other owners directly to Council are generally shared by all and should be considered by Council
to be a united opposition to the current plan.
It is the position of Mr. Hilliard and his neighbors that no condition exists which warrants
the relocation of the 18th green and fairway from their current location. To convert this area to
an area devoted to event gatherings, or gatherings of virtually any other public nature, would
constitute a nuisance to the adjoining residences and a violation of the covenant which affects
this property. For these reasons, among others, Mr. Hilliard and his neighbors respectfully
request that the 18th green and fairway be left in their current configuration.
It was originally our understanding that the action proposed for the 18th green and
fairway was based upon the perceived need for construction of additional parking and an outdoor
events venue in connection with an expansion of the Vail golf course clubhouse. At the Council
meeting on the 3rd of July, the focus with reference to the need to take the proposed action
seemed to shift to safety and a perceived mandate related to the vote approving the expenditure
�,t`t:�:xes ro9l� ctr,�1 fora co�i.fc;rence center. For that reason, this letter deals primarily with those
Oe o subjects voth which the Council seems I:V:) be concerned.
Safety:
The Council has identified three areas of concern with reference to safety, none of which
constitute existing problems warranting the destruction and relocation of the 18th green and the
western third of the 18th fairway. These areas of concern are (1) golf balls from the driving
range landing on the 18th fairway, (2) the proximity of residences adjacent to 18th green and the
western part of the 18th fairway, and (3) the danger posed to a proposed commercial events
venue east and/or south of the clubhouse. For the reasons noted below, none of these reasons
warrant the action under consideration.
1. - golf balls from the driving range landing on the 18th fairway - The Town's expert in
golf course design has indicated that golf balls hit from the driving range sometimes land on the
18th fairway, and that, for this reason, the portion of the 18th fairway affected should be
deactivated as a fairway. There are at least three problems with this logic.
a. Although the expert did not display the results of any study on the north side of
the driving range, the effect of the existence of the driving range on the 10th
fairway to the north of the range is likely identical to the effect on the 18th
fairway. If the impact area on the 18th fairway is to be deactivated, then the same
logic dictates that the impact area on the 10th fairway should be deactivated, and
the hole should be converted to a par 3, if it can remain in existence at all.
b. The approach under consideration would effectively "sterilize" the impact
areas on the 18th fairway against any use whatsoever. The impact area would
become a vacuum where no activity whatsoever could occur. Real estate owned
by the Town of Vail doesn't remain a vacuum, whether sterilized or not.
c. Finally, in recognizing the fact that any abandoned part of the 18th fairway will
not long remain unused, it must be observed that virtually any use of that ground
will create greater risk for the Town than its current risk. For example, where
perhaps as many as twenty golfers (five foursomes) briefly travel the 18th fairway
during an hour on a busy day, a venue for events would result in 200 or more
individuals being exposed to the perceived hazard for an extended period of time.
Any such existing hazard would be increased by a factor of ten times (20 vs. 200)
if the Town were to take the direction currently proposed. This impact would be
aggravated by the fact that, while golfers almost certainly would have assumed the
risk of injury by errant golf balls while engaged in the sport, persons attending an
event would not be subject to such an "assumption of risk" defense.
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In � r�„erlity, the Mi.ni_r,ria.l and fleeting threat pos4 d to golfers on the 1Ot:h an.d. 13th fairway su.E7,gests
d to the current configuration of the golf course or the use of
that no change whatsoever is require
conventional golf balls on the driving range.
If part of the 18th fairway is vacated, at some point in the future the Town will certainly identify
a need for this area and will conclude that there is only one answer to the broader problem. A
change in the 18th fairway and green deal with only one aspect of the perceived risk and does not
deal with the 10th fairway or the virtual certainty of alternative uses for the part of the 18th
fairway proposed for abandonment. The Town controls the balls used on the driving range, and
it is the height and distance traveled by those balls which creates the threat, to the extent any
threat exists. The only universal solution to the perceived threat is the conversion of the driving
range to the use of golf balls which travel a shorter distance and, more importantly, do not attain
the height necessary to clear the fence surrounding the driving range. If there actually is a threat,
the question isn't whether this action will be taken, but when. If the Council believes a threat
exists, then this action is inevitable, and because the 18th fairway can be saved only at this time,
the point in time to change the range ball supply to shorter distance balls is now.
2. - the proximity of residences adjacent to 18th green and the western part of the 18th
fairway - The Town's golf course expert believes that golf balls hit from the 18th fairway can
stray onto the residential properties adjacent to the western part of that fairway. The residents
indicate that this rarely occurs. However,
a. As previously pointed out, it is these owners who are objecting to the
relocation of the adjacent fairway and green, notwithstanding the fact that they
may be affected by the activity on the golf course. These people live next to the
golf course so that they can have the experience of being next to the golf course,
and they recognize that there is a risk involved.
b. Of greater importance in establishing the fallacy of this concern is the fact that
relocation of the 18th green and elimination of the western part of the 18th
fairway will not eliminate the risk with which the Town is concerned. Rather the
proposed action will shift that risk to the east, creating an impact area on
properties which, at this time, have significantly less risk as an impact area. These
are properties whose owners have had no notification of their increased exposure,
and the Town has no information from these owners regarding whether they do or
do not wish to assume the risk which the owners and residents around the current
18th green know and with which they are comfortable. Because the risk with
which the Town is concerned is not eliminated but is shifted to those who are not
now under that risk, without their knowledge, this safety argument is without any
logic.
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3. the t1anger posed to an events -, eniae east an(I'or scri-Ah of the clubhoust.- - Per.�;t:.ived
risk to an events venue east and/or south of the clubhouse has at least thrt:e central problems.
a. First, this perceived risk is not now in existence. This risk only becomes real if
the Council and the Vail Recreation District create an outdoor events venue in the
impacted area. By changing the location of any events venue, or by creating an
events venue which is either (i) interior or (ii) rooftop but protected or (iii)
exterior but protected, the risk vanishes.
b. Secondly, because the currently proposed events venue does not now exist, the
Town is creating its own problem and then justifying changes which impact the
neighborhood (removing the golf course impact from some properties and shifting
that risk to other properties) in order to resolve a problem which is being created
unnecessarily. Again, there is no logic to the proposed course of action.
c. Finally, as noted above, the location of an events venue on the part of the 18th
fairway will actually. increase any exposure of the Town associated with errant
golf balls originating on the driving range, rather than eliminate that risk.
For the reasons noted above, none of rationales relied upon by the Town warrant or
necessitate the destruction or relocation of the 18th green and fairway.
Voter mandate:
The Town has on several occasions referred to its position that the approval of the
expenditure of conference center funds has given it a clear direction to create an exterior events
center in the area of the golf course clubhouse. While some who were exceptionally involved in
the development of the ballot question or the related planning may have been aware that an
external event center was part of someone's plan, the ballot question did not reflect any such
proposed direction or plan. The best information available indicates that the ballot question was,
in pertinent part, whether the Town should use the remaining convention center funds for the
Expansion and improvement of the clubhouse at the Vail Golf Course and Nordic Center,
including multi -use community space; .... (Emphasis added)
It is important to note that the ballot question in no way indicated that the program would involve
or require the destruction and/or appropriation of any part of the 18th hole. On the contrary, the
use of the word "including" clearly indicates that the expansion and improvement of the
clubhouse would "include" the multi -use community space, i.e., that the community space would
be interior to and/or a part of the clubhouse. The input which the Council has heard from the
golfing community has confirmed this popular reading and understanding of the proposal.
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The Town has received no voter mandate for the r.le ,t:na.ct.i.on or roll -.1 ation r.)f ,"my put of
the 18th fairway or the 18th green.
Other Considerations:
Apart from the lack of justification for the abandonment of the western part of the 18th
hole of the Vail golf course, there exist at least four other considerations which require
withdrawal of the current proposal.
The covenants associated with the 1984 deed through which the Town acquired the
subject property prohibit the use of the property which includes the 18th hole for any purpose
other than a "public golf course or open space or park for the benefit of the public and only such
other related support facilities required for those purposes". The conversion of part of this
property into an events center for the purpose of putting "heads in beds" is a commercial use
which violates that covenant. That covenant was and is enforceable by the successors and
assigns of the Pulis Ranch Company. Available information indicates that the owners of the
properties on Sunburst Drive are successors and assigns of the Pulis Ranch Company entitled to
enforce that covenant. Mr. Hilliard does not wish to placed in the position of being required to
enforce that covenant, nor do I understand any of the other property owners to be determined to
take such a direction. If, however, the former Pulis Ranch property is converted to a use which
violates that covenant, he, or any of his neighbors, may be compelled to consider that course of
action as the only available remedy.
A second concern is the fact that virtually any use of the part of the 18th hole under
consideration for abandonment will, if abandoned, be converted to a use inconsistent with the
ability of the neighboring property owners to quietly enjoy their property. Of particular concern
is the virtual certainty that noise associated with the activities in this area will constitute a
nuisance to the neighboring properties and that the proximity of large numbers of people in this
area will result in an invasion of privacy. The golf course was conveyed to the Town of Vail and
established as part of an overall plan for that golf course, open space or park for the benefit of the
neighboring properties. The owners of those properties are entitled to continuing recognition of
this plan, whether through respect of the original covenant or otherwise.
Another consideration is the reality that, if the Town closes part of the 18th fairway as
proposed but does not eliminate other similar hazards, such as the threat to golfers on the 10th
fairway or to pedestrian and bicycle traffic passing under the tee of the 16th hole, then the Town
will have effectively acknowledged the existence of a threat at one location without having dealt
appropriately with the threats at other locations where the same threats exist. Any party injured
in one of those virtually identical situations would have an easier case demonstrating that the
Town has only selectively corrected an identified problem, and that he or she suffered injury
because the Town did not take identical action wherever the perceived threat exists.
Finally, it must be recognized that (a) Lhe cor:versici oi:'pc�ol^+.ri.1 frorn 91.-- if cou:-Se
properties into properties vdiich front on vacant land ��vhose future i,: 1 Trgely impn.r,:l.ictalair°, ;.1
(b) the noise and disturbance associated with activities in a commercial event venue, constituting
a nuisance in every sense of the word, will have a catastrophic effect on the values of the
properties currently adjacent to the western third of the 18th fairway. While we have attempted
to focus on the interests of the Town of Vail and the golfing public, and the fallacies of the
justifications offered for the reconfiguration of the 18th fairway, the impact on owners and
residents who have long relied on the development plan created in the 1970's and confirmed in
the 1984 deed to the Town of Vail cannot be ignored. The Town accepted the 1984 deed subject
to a covenant which was clearly intended to perpetuate a plan which provided for the Sunburst
Drive lots to enjoy golf course frontage, and the Town has a moral, as well as a legal, obligation
to respect that plan and the reliance of owners and residents on that plan.
Options:
Although Mr. Hilliard cannot speak for each of his neighbors in this regard, it is possible
that action might be taken to protect the interests of the Town of Vail while insuring the
continued existence of the 18th fairway and green in their current configuration. If there is a
desire to protect the interests of the Town of Vail while insuring the continued existence of the
18th fairway and green in their current configuration, Mr. Hilliard would be willing to work with
the Town and his neighbors to subject the properties of concern with respect to errant golf balls
to a covenant of generally the following content, consistent with recent golf course development:
"Every Lot subject to this covenant is subject to an easement permitting golf balls
unintentionally to come upon the Lots adjacent to the golf course, and the owners of each
such Lot, for themselves and their successors and assigns, agree that neither such owners,
nor their successors and assigns, shall make any claim against the Town of Vail nor the
Vail Recreation District, nor any councilperson, officer, director, employee or agent of
either, while acting in such capacity, as a result of injury or property damage resulting
from such errant golf balls being unintentionally hit onto any of the Lots. The existence
of this easement shall not relieve golfers of liability for damage caused by errant golf
balls. "
With reference to any perceived threat from the driving range, it has been suggested by
some in the golf community that a monitor might be stationed at the driving range to enforce a
control preventing conventional balls from carrying over the fence which surrounds the driving
range. If this step were coupled with signage advising those using the driving range that their use
of the range will be terminated if a ball is hit over the fence, then this might be an effective step
in preventing errant balls from landing on either the 10th or the 18th fairway, saving both. While
there would be a cost to such action, that cost would not approach the more than $350,000 which
will be required to reconfigure the 18th fairway and green.
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As noted in the previous cox=,l unicatiion to the C07.11161 on behalf of Mr. Millar+:1 in
connection with the proposed zone district amendment, we submit that it is the Town's duty to be
certain that activities motivated by its own perceived needs and agenda are undertaken only with
appropriate recognition and respect for the legitimate rights and expectations of its residents and
property owners.
Once again, Mr. Hilliard wishes to thank the members of the Council for their
consideration of his concerns, the concerns of his neighbors, and the opinions of the golfing
community in preserving a recreational asset of the Town of Vail of importance to all.
xc: Mr. Glenn Hilliard
Board of Directors, Vail Recreation District
Mr. Matt Mire, Town Attorney
Mr. Greg Hall, Director of Public Works
Mr. Bill Gibson, Department of Community Development
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Dear Vail Town Council,
Glenn Hilliard <rglennhilliard@aol.com>
Thursday, July 12, 2012 9:22 AM
Council Dist List
Proposed changes to Vail Golf Course
Vail_Town Council Ltr 071212.pdf
Please find attached letter. I hope that you will take this information into consideration for the council meeting scheduled for July
17th.
Respectfully,
Glenn & Heather Hilliard
1801-A Sunburst Drive
Vail, CO
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R. Glenn Hilliard
July 12, 2012
Town Council
Town of Vail
Vail, Colorado
Re: Potential changes in the Vail Golf Course
Thank you again for allowing public input in regard to the Vail Golf Course and
Clubhouse redesign and rezoning. In addition to the points made in our letter of June 26,
2012, and to the points previously and currently made by our Sunburst Drive neighbors
and by the attorneys who are representing the neighbors who adjoin the area of the 18t
green, we would like foryou to also consider the following points prior to making any
decision on how to proceed with any changes to the 181s green and fairway or to the
clubhouse.
1. The money, which is now available to the Town of Vail, is significant but limited,
and it should be used in a way which delivers on the expectations and maximizes
the real and incremental value for the residents, homeowners and taxpayers of
Vail. Neither the current plan nor any of the publicly suggested changes to those
plans are what voters acted upon nor do they maximize the return on investment.
The available money is best spent building a world-class clubhouse, which
contains internal and connected multi -use space designed to be used for a variety
of purposes. These limited dollars should be spent as the voters approved them,
not wasted in moving the 18th fairway and green nor in creating an unneeded
"venue" space.
If these monies are focused on clubhouse improvements rather than changing
fairways and greens, there is much more opportunity to derive income and
community value from a top notch clubhouse, with such uses as a restaurant,
coffee shop, separate bar and grill, locker rooms, and a stop for bikers than there
is in trying to create through a new outside venue new income for the Town of
Vail or additional "heads in beds" for the retail businesses of Vail.
2. In and around Vail there already exist more than a half dozen more desirable and
not fully utilized venues for weddings and other events. Adding another outdoor
venue on the current 18th fairway and green area is not needed, is poorly
conceived and is a waste of taxpayer's money. Importantly, the move of the 18th
green also creates a reduction in value of the Vail Golf Course and a substantial
reduction in the value of the homes adjoining the 181' fairway and green.
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The use of this area as outdoor venue space is clearly not optimal. In addition to
creating potential problems and unhappy interfaces between golfers and venue
users, and between venue users and adjoining homeowners, you should also
recognize that the substantial road noise, which is okay for golfers, is not okay for
weddings or other outdoor events.
3. The target capacity of any multi -use venue space should be reduced to 75-125
people and it should be enclosed or enclosable in poor weather or for safety. This
is an optimal number for a multiuse facility which should primarily serve as
restaurant space, so that Vail is not paying to maintain space which stands empty
and unused the majority of the time. Any need for "outside or patio" space should
also be permanent, enclosable and attached to the clubhouse to allow for the
continuation of use of the 181h hole and green as currently configured and the
continued use of the driving range. This "internal" space arrangement will
alleviate issues of road noise, crowds and confusion from sharing outside space,
avoid creating a legal nuisance to adjoining homeowners and eliminate the risk of
harm or injury to venue attendees.
As a reference point, the current clubhouse dining room accommodated
comfortably the 115 people who attended the wedding rehearsal dinner for our
daughter, Nancy, which was held in that venue in January 2000.
4. An outside venue is not a good business for this location. I serve on the board of
Brookgreen Gardens, the largest outdoor figurative sculpture garden in the U.S.,
and on many weekends it is utilized as a wedding venue. In fact, our youngest
daughter Glenn, was married there. When the cost of promotion, maintenance, .
cleaning and preparing, and providing a liaison for wedding planners and sub-
contractors for tents, music, etc. is factored into this, it is barely a positive
contributor to the bottom line for Brookgreen and only profitable at all because
the use is limited to the largest contributors to Brookgreen.
Once again, we support but do not reiterate all the comments and letters provided by
neighbors and others who oppose the ideas of moving the 18th green or creating an
outdoor venue.
We support the substantial improvement of the golf and nordic clubhouse and
leaving the 18th green and fairway where they are today, To do otherwise is a complete
failure to abide by the wishes of the Vail voters and is a violation of trust with neighbors
and a violation of specific covenants which have been relied upon for decades. This is
not a venue suitable for outdoor events, and it is an outdoor venue which is unneeded
and will neither add revenues to the Town of Vail nor deliver meaningful additional
"heads in beds" to our Vail businesses.
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We implore you to abandon the current plans, to preserve the 18th hole and green as
they exist today and to put the available money into a world class nordic, golf, biking and
neighborhood restaurant, coffee shop and clubhouse.
Thank you for your consideration.
nn Hilliard & Heather Hilliard
7/17/2012
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TOWN OF A
Uri TIMMIT47117 17,
To: Planning and Environmental Commission
From: Community Development Department
Date: October 22, 2012
Subject: A request for a recommendation to the Vail Town Council, pursuant to Section
12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, for prescribed regulations amendments to
Title 12, Zoning Regulations, and Title 14, Development Standards, Vail Town
Code, to require restoration of watercourses and riparian areas, and setting forth
details in regard thereto. (PEC120011)
Applicant: Town of Vail
Planner: Rachel Dimond
I. SUMMARY
The applicant, the Town of Vail, is requesting a recommendation to the Vail Town
Council, pursuant to Section 12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, for prescribed
regulations amendments to Title 12, Zoning Regulations, Vail Town Code, to require
restoration of watercourses and riparian areas on town -owned streamtracts when an
adjacent property owner requests design review approval.
The following problem statement was established to clarify the issues to be
addressed:
Problem Statement: In order to protect Gore Creek and its tributaries
and provide public access to these natural areas, the Town acquired
streamtracts and generally keeps these streamtracts in a natural
riparian state. Staff has identified private encroachments on town -
owned streamtracts ranging from vegetation removal to construction
of patios and other structures. The "privatization" of public land
eliminates the ability for the public to utilize this land for recreation
and negatively impact the health of the creek by impeding these
sensitive areas' ability to provide habitat to wildlife, filters for storm
water run-off, and streambank stabilization. The degradation of
watercourses and riparian areas, in part by human disturbances, has
led to the declining health of Gore Creek and its tributaries, which in
turn has caused the State of Colorado to deem Gore Creek impaired.
The purpose of the proposed regulations is to provide a trigger for required restoration
of town -owned streamtract properties when adjacent property owners apply for design
review approval. These proposed regulations will provide Staff with an additional tool to
effect the removal of unapproved alterations of town -owned streamtracts and
restoration of these properties.
Staff recommends the Planning and Environmental Commission forward a
recommendation of approval to the Vail Town Council for the prescribed regulations
amendments.
The Planning and Environmental Commission shall forward a recommendation of
approval, approval with modifications, or denial to the Vail Town Council for the
prescribed regulations amendments.
II. DESCRIPTION OF THE REQUEST
Previously, the applicant has held work sessions to discuss a broader set of proposed
regulations that would establish a new watercourse setback, regulate pesticide
applications and expand requirements for wetlands. The Town began this code
amendment project as an effort to require mitigation of town -owned streamtracts and
would like to refocus the conversation and regulations to make progress in this specific
area. Once the original purpose is met, the Town will revisit additional water quality
goals and potential code amendments.
Proposed Regulations Amendments:
12-11-3: DESIGN APPROVAL:
A. Scope: No person shall commence removal of vegetation, site preparation, building
construction or demolition, dumping of material upon a site, sign erection, exterior
alteration or enlargement of an existing structure, paving, fencing or other
improvements of open space within the corporate limits of the town unless design
approval has been granted as prescribed in this chapter. The addition of plant materials
to existing landscaping, gardening and landscape maintenance shall be exempt from
this provision.
B. Violation: It shall be a violation of this chapter and the building permit for any person
to commence, continue or complete work that has not received design approval as
prescribed in this chapter and/or is not in conformity with the plans approved and
authorized by the administrator and/or the design review board and the building official.
C. Nonconforming Sites And Structures, Effect Of Design Guidelines:
1. Buildings and sites which are not in conformance with the design guidelines, due to
annexations or changes in code provisions (i.e., legal nonconformities), shall be
required to conform with the design guidelines when allowable gross residential floor
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area (GRFA) (the GRFA that is permitted by the density control section of various zone
districts), commercial floor area, or garage area credit is added to any existing structure
or site.
2. From the effective date of July 21, 1998, there shall be permitted a one-time
exclusion from this provision for an expansion to single-family, two-family, and
primary/secondary residential dwelling units. This one-time exclusion shall be allowed
for a single expansion of five hundred (500) square feet or less of allowable GRFA or
garage area credit per dwelling unit. In which case, structures may be expanded without
requiring upgrades to entire structures and sites to conform to the design guidelines.
The addition itself, however, shall conform to the design guidelines. An expansion which
is greater than five hundred (500) square feet, or any subsequent expansion to a
structure, regardless of size, shall require full compliance of the dwelling unit with the
design guidelines.
3. General maintenance and upkeep of a property shall continue to be required
regardless of the amount of floor area added to a structure. The one-time exclusion
noted above shall not preclude the design review board, pursuant to the design
guidelines, from requiring landscaping and other improvements necessary to buffer or
mitigate development impacts associated with the expansion/remodel.
4. Expansions made pursuant to section 12-15-5 of this title shall require full compliance
of the entire dwelling unit with the design guidelines. Interior conversion additions
pursuant to section 12-15-4 of this title shall not trigger the requirement for upgrading
sites and structures to fully comply with the design guidelines, unless it can be classified
as a "demo/rebuild'; pursuant to section 12-2-2 of this title
D. Restoration of Adjacent Town -Owned Streamtract Property: Upon any request
for design review approval, any alteration of adjacent town -owned streamtract
conducted without consent of the Town of Vail shall cease and be removed at the
sole expense of the applicant. The altered adjacent town -owned streamtract shall
be restored at the sole expense of the applicant to native riparian conditions as
determined and approved by the Administrator. Alterations may include but are
not limited to the removal, mowing or addition of vegetation, site preparation,
construction of porches, steps, decks or terraces or similar features, building
construction or demolition, dumping of material, sign erection, exterior alteration
or enlargement of an existing structure, paving, fencing, placement of furniture,
works of art and firepits, or other improvements.
III. BACKGROUND
As part of the Environmental Sustainability Strategic Plan, adopted in 2009, the Vail
Town Council identified protection of the natural environment as a top priority for
immediate and future efforts. Focused on sustainability and reducing our impact on the
environment, the Council is committed to continuous improvement of our environmental
practices by promoting ecosystem protection and a campaign for community awareness
and education.
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The reach of Gore Creek flowing through Vail has been subjected to numerous
disturbances over the past 30 years including increased encroachment into the public
stream tracts. Over the past couple of years, efforts, including visual assessment of
properties adjacent to town -owned stream tracts along Gore Creek from Vail Village
Filing 11, just east of the golf course spanning west to Cascade Village, have been
made to investigate possible encroachments into town -owned stream tracts. These
inspections have identified numerous properties that have apparently undergone some
form of modification or encroachment onto these sensitive riparian areas including, but
not limited to: landscaping town -owned riparian property; building decorative planters;
using the areas for recreational seating; or, in more severe cases, building structures,
such as a basketball court, on these town -owned properties. In some instances, Staff
has been able to work with owners to mitigate encroachments at numerous properties,
resulting in restoration of the stream tract closer to its natural state; however, these
issues have been resolved in only a few instances.
Previously, Staff was unable to accurately identify the boundaries of existing publicly -
owned stream tracts along Gore Creek and its primary tributaries which present
difficulties in enforcement of every encroachment into public stream tracts. This
particular aspect of management practice will be critical for improving and protecting the
future stream health conditions of Gore Creek, thus maintaining Vail's Gold Medal Trout
status which, in turn, sustains our summer fishing tourism economy.
Staff realized that a professional land survey needed to be conducted on specific public
stream tracts along Gore Creek and its primary tributaries resulting in the accurate and
indisputable identification, regulation and legally defensible pursuit of compliance of
encroachment issues. Such a survey for specific portions of public stream tracts was
performed and has been a great resource to the Town since Staff would have a clearer
understanding of public stream tracts in relation to possible encroachments as they are
recognized.
On October 6, 2009, Town Council adopted a "zero tolerance" policy for allowing illegal
private encroachments on town -owned stream tract lands and instructed Staff to pursue
removal of all encroachments.
In January 2010, letters were sent to all properties adjacent to Town -owned streamtract
detailing the need to protect the creek and remove all illegal encroachment onto Town
property.
In June 2010, letters were sent to 28 property owners and 3 encroachments were
resolved through Staff interaction with adjacent homeowners. However, this process
was halted with the onset of early winter conditions and resumed in early 2011.
During the summer of 2011, letters were sent to 43 property owners identified as having
encroachments onto town owned streamtracts. Of these 43 properties, 30 property
owners agreed to remove encroachments, which were confirmed by Town Staff. One
property owner received Town Council approval to have Town of Vail remove
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encroachments (Lapin Residence, which will have bridge and retaining walls removed
this summer, pending Army Corps of Engineers approval). Staff is working with the
Town Prosecutor to prosecute one property owner, who has a basketball court crossing
onto town owned streamtract.
Staff is continuing to evaluate encroachments as further site visits are conducted and
aerial photos are analyzed.
The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (WQCD), Water Quality
Control Division (WQCC) on December 6, 2012, added the portion of Gore Creek from
Black Gore Creek to the Eagle River (Dowd Junction) to Colorado's Section 303(d) list
of impaired waters for aquatic life use (provisional). The provisional listing of Gore
Creek means that the cause of impairment is not known. The WQCC decided to add all
of Gore Creek (within the town limits) to the 303(d) list in order to require additional
studies to identify potential stressors to aquatic life that could cause impairment.
The listing for aquatic life use is based on a new methodology for determining the health
of a river using aquatic macro invertebrate (bugs) population characteristics. Failing
bug scores are indicative of long-term health of Gore Creek, poor aquatic life is the
precursor to the decline of the "Gold Medal" fishery in Gore Creek. WQCD and the
Division will continue to work with the Town and the Eagle River Water and Sanitation
District to determine the causes of this impairment.
A Water Quality Improvement Plan was initiated, with preliminary findings summarized
as follows:
Aquatic life stressors
• Loss of riparian habitat and buffer zones (strongly associated with loss of
bug populations and diversity)
• Landscaping extends to the stream in many locations
Buildings, roads & other improvements within riparian zone
Use of pesticides and herbicides
• Pine bark beetle
• Pine needle scale
• Weed control (lawns and gardens)
Stream habitat disturbance
• Eroding stream banks due to loss of natural soil binding vegetation
• Natural stream banks replaced by riprap walls and slopes
• Stream channelization
• Frequent construction disturbance
Storm Water and Urban Runoff
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• Street and parking area drainage piped directly to stream
• Roof drains and subterranean dewatering discharges
• Lawn irrigation return flows (fertilizer and herbicides)
• Snowmelt factors (mag chloride)
As part of a discussion on Gore Creek's impaired status designation, the Vail Town
Council directed Staff to move forward with proposing regulations that will result in
improvement to Gore Creek's health.
Removing encroachments from Town -owned streamtracts is just one step in the Town's
efforts to improve the health of Gore Creek and its tributaries. While the Town has been
able to identify a number of encroachments on public property, these are just a few of
the many built improvements impacting the health of Gore Creek and its tributaries.
The Vail Town Code includes a watercourse setback requirement as follows -
12 -14-17- SETBACK FROM WATERCOURSE: Minimum setback from a
creek or stream shall be not less than thirty feet (30) from the center of
the established creek or stream channel as defined by the town
comprehensive plan base maps, provided, however, that the setback from
Gore Creek shall be fifty feet (50'). Natural creek or stream channels may
not be rechanneled or changed.
While this setback requirement prohibits buildings, it does not address landscaping or
existing encroachments in the watercourse setback. Decks and patios within five feet of
grade are permitted to encroach up to 10 feet into the watercourse setback. Further,
the setback from watercourse sometimes does not reach the edge of creek in wider
parts of Gore Creek, resulting in no real setback from the creek itself.
Though the Town has identified improvements on public property, private property
owners install sod and mow their grass up to the edge of the creek and other
watercourses. The removal of vegetation has occurred over many years, and has
impacted watercourses and riparian areas' ability to stabilize the streambank, provide
habitat for wildlife, filter storm water, and as a result, is believed to be one of the
reasons Gore Creek has been deemed "impaired" by the State of Colorado. The Town
must act to improve the health of Gore Creek, its tributaries and riparian areas.
The following pictures show degradation of streamtracts and riparian areas:
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On August 13, 2012, presentations were made by the Eagle River Water and Sanitation
District (ERWSD), the Vail Golf Course and the Town of Vail on water quality
improvement.
ERWSD provided an overview of the health of Gore Creek and stream health in
general. The Vail Golf Course provided a detailed overview of the activities occurring at
the golf course related to Gore Creek.
Town Staff discussed the following as summarized below:
As of December, 2011, the portion of Gore Creek from Black Gore Creek to the Eagle
River (at Dowd Junction) has been added to the State of Colorado's Clean Water Act
Section 303(d) List of Impaired Waters. The reason for the listing is a lack of quantity
and diversity of aquatic life (bugs essential to health fish and other wildlife habitat). The
listing is categorized as "provisional" because the cause of impairment is currently
unknown. The State of Colorado and the Town now have ten years to determine the
cause of the impairment and begin to correct the issue in order to remove Gore Creek
from the 303(d) List.
Staff has taken steps to lessen the impact of daily maintenance operations on Gore
Creek, increase education and monitor water quality:
Sand and Oil Separator Maintenance — The Town owns sixteen sand and oil
separators that were cleaned by a contract maintenance company two years
ago. All of the separators are presumed full, and will need to be cleaned
again this fall. Estimated annual cost of $30,000. Following the cleaning, the
Public Works team will check the fill rate in order to establish a maintenance
schedule for the future.
• Pesticides and Insecticides — the Town no longer sprays trees within 50 feet
of Gore Creek. Weed spraying continues on an as -needed basis.
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Cinders and Road Deicing — the Public Works team has maintained a policy
of clearing snow and ice covered roads by 10 a.m. In order to maintain this
standard and keep streets safe, the Town applies lava rock cinders and
magnesium chloride to the road for traction. Street sweepers are run
throughout the winter when possible, and a large percentage of cinders are
picked up at the end of the season. Magnesium Chloride is used as little as
possible: In East Vail, on Bighorn Rd. All Roundabouts, Frontage Rd., Vail
Valley Drive, Red Sandstone Road, and Blue Cow Chute.
Education — the Environmental Team hosted an AmeriCorps intern this
summer through the Environmental Stewardship Program. The intern's scope
of work included a two-month Gore Creek education program at Bighorn
Park, the development of homeowner education packets that include water
quality magnets, a riparian area brochure, and an informational letter. The
Town's website now includes a page dedicated to Gore Creek, bug life, and
water quality tips. Finally, a five week Vail Daily Ad campaign will begin this
month, providing tips to readers on how they can help improve Gore Creek
health.
Ongoing monthly monitoring — Through the State's Riverwatch program, the
Environmental team collects water samples from four sites along Gore Creek
in order to test for metals, pH, nutrients, oxygen, hardness, alkalinity, and
temperature.
Streambank Restoration —willow and native shrub and tree planting, bank
stabilization projects have taken place over the past year at the following
sites: Bighorn Park, Stephens Park, Aspen Court Bridge, Middle Creek
(above and below Frontage Roads). Improvements that will occur this year
and next year include the Spruce Way culvert replacement and streambank
restoration, Upper Middle Creek restoration, Booth Creek near the bike path,
and other general creek stabilization at identified locations per the River
Restoration flood study with willow staking and minor stabilization.
Future Initiatives and Projects
• Regulatory: The Sustainable Building Initiative (an incentive based green
building program in development) includes post construction stormwater
pollution control incentives, and requirements for watercourse and wetland
setbacks. Possible regulations that require ongoing maintenance of sand and
oil separators on private property.
Infrastructure Upgrades and Regular Maintenance: of sand and oil separators, catch
basins, and outfalls. The Town's green team is investigating the cost and impacts of
installing another catch basin in front of the Town shops to intercept pollution from
vehicles and maintenance activities.
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The Gore Creek Water Quality Improvement Plan will be available for public review in
the coming months, and a presentation to the PEC is planned to review the proposed
plan.
IV. APPLICABLE PLANNING DOCUMENTS
Environmental Sustainability Strategic Plan
Goal #3: Ensure that the natural environment, specifically air and water quality, water
quantity, land use and habitat are maintained to current or improved levels of biological
health.
Ecosystem Health:
Background/Key Issues
Drought, warmer temperatures and the infestation of the mountain pine beetle have led
to increased wildfire danger in and surrounding Vail. According to the U.S. Forest
Service, as of 2007, the beetle has infested over 70% of the trees from Lionshead to
Dowd Junction and during the next five years, the area surrounding Vail will lose
hundreds of thousands of pine trees from this infestation. The dying and dead trees are
more susceptible to catch fie and thus, increase the danger of spreading wildfires. The
Town will spend over $1.5 million on addressing the beetle outbreak and wildfire
preparedness through 2010. Gore Creek is the only major tributary that runs through the
Town, and supports both recreational and sanitation needs. The extent of Gore Creek
flowing through Vail has been subjected to numerous disturbances over the past 30
years including increased sediment from sanding of 1-70 during the winter. Monitoring
the effects of sand sedimentation and other pollutant sources on the Gore Creek is
underway and the Town works with the Eagle River Water and Sanitation District on
watershed management programs to improve and protect the future stream health
conditions of Gore Creek, which is designated a Gold Medal Trout fisher. The Gore
Creek Ma croin vertebrate and Stream Health Monitoring Report. 2004-2006 Monitoring
prepared for the Eagle River Watershed Council, stated that when compared to other
healthy reference sites on Gore Creek and the Eagle River, aquatic insect numbers in
certain reaches of Gore Creek flowing through Vail are in poor condition. Data
summarized from various reports (Eagle River Inventory and Assessment 2005,
Hydrosphere 2005, Wynn et al. 2001) indicate that in the past decade a downward trend
in stream health is occurring in Gore Creek, typical of increasing urbanization.
Current Initiatives
Since 2000, the Town has been an active member of the Black Gore Creek
Steering Committee and a project funding partner for source control and
monitoring.
The Town supported the planning and construction of 63 sedimentation basins
on 1-70 Vail Pass over the past five years.
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• In 2007, the Town assisted in funding the Colorado Department of
Transportation's Sedimentation Basin of Last Resort project located at mile
marker 183 on Vail Pass.
• The Town supports Gore Creek water quality monitoring efforts by the Forest
Service.
• The Town supports, promotes, and adhere to the guidelines put forth by the
Eagle River Water and Sanitation District Water Conservation Program.
• The Town supports the implementation of Black Gore Creek Total Maximum
Daily Loads (threshold for pollution rates that still meet water quality standards)
to identify sediment load reduction projects and implementation plans.
• The Town is partnering with U.S. and Colorado State Forest Service and Eagle
County on the Vail Valley Forest Health Project, which seeks to reduce wildfire
hazard by creating a fie break around the Town by removing beetle infested trees
and working on re -vegetation programs. In 2007, the Town hired a six person
wildfire mitigation crew for fie prevention education and cutting/thinning projects
on Town -land adjacent to U.S. Forest Service lands.
• The Town finalized its Community Wildfire Protection Plan in 2007, which
outlines how Vail can protect itself from the threat of wildfire.
• New regulations in 2007 require Class A roof assemblies or roof covering
materials on all new roofs and re -roofs in Vail, and prohibit wood shake and
wood shingles for all structures.
Objectives
1. Maintain Gore Creek watershed as a Gold Medal Fishery, while working to
maintain tributaries, meet and/or exceed aquatic life standards set by the state of
Colorado through the management of urban stormwater.
2. Re-initiate Trees for Vail program as a forest restoration and Town of Vail
beautification project to improve the community and the environment through tree
planting.
3. Promote water conservation practices in businesses, community and
municipality.
4. Address tree disease in the Town of Vail through public outreach and education.
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levels of biological health." This goal is being furthered by the text amendment by
requiring adjacent property owners to restore Town -owned streamtracts if they have
been altered, which will in turn improve the health of Gore Creek, its tributaries and
adjacent riparian lands.
3. The extent to which the text amendment demonstrates how conditions have
substantially changed since the adoption of the subject regulation and how
the existing regulation is no longer appropriate or is inapplicable; and
Staff finds the text amendment reflect changes in conditions since the adoption of
the Zoning Regulations. In previous years, the Town allowed certain encroachments
onto town -owned streamtracts, such as landscaping, decks and walkways under
certain circumstances. However, in recent years, homeowners have encroached
onto town -owned streamtracts with increased activity that has become detrimental to
Gore Creek's health and has contributed to the privatization of the public
streamtracts. As a result, the Vail Town Council adopted a zero tolerance policy for
unapproved streamtract alterations. It has been a difficult task for Staff to get
homeowners to not only remove encroachments, but also to restore streamtracts to
their natural riparian state. The text amendments will provide regulations for such
restoration, thus reflecting the Town's change in attitude towards encroachments.
4. The extent to which the text amendment provides a harmonious, convenient,
workable relationship among land use regulations consistent with municipal
development objectives; and
Staff finds the text amendment provides a harmonious, convenient, workable
relationship among land use regulations consistent with municipal development
objectives because the proposed code language will require removal and restoration
of all unapproved streamtract encroachments. This will improve the relationship
between public and private lands by providing a clear differentiation between the two
types of ownership. Further, the text amendments will promote the Town's
development objective to remove such encroachments and allow use of the town -
owned streamtracts for public use and to serve as a buffer for improvement of Gore
Creek's health.
5. Such other factors and criteria the planning and environmental commission
and/or council deem applicable to the proposed text amendment.
VI. STAFF RECOMMENDATION
The Community Development Department recommends the Planning and
Environmental Commission forwards a recommendation of approval to the Vail
Town Council for the prescribed regulations amendments. This recommendation
is based upon the review of the criteria outlined in Section V of this memorandum
and the evidence and testimony presented.
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Should the Planning and Environmental Commission choose to forward a
recommendation of approval for this request, the Community Development
Department recommends the Commission pass the following motion:
"The Planning and Environmental Commission forwards a
recommendation of approval to the Vail Town Council, pursuant to Section
12-3-7, Amendment, Vail Town Code, for prescribed regulations
amendments to Title 12, Zoning Regulations, Vail Town Code, to require
restoration of watercourses and riparian areas on town -owned
streamtracts, and setting forth details in regard thereto."
Should the Planning and Environmental Commission choose to forward a
recommendation of approval for this request, the Community Development
Department recommends the Commission makes the following findings:
"Based upon a review of Section V of this memorandum, and the evidence and
testimony presented the Planning and Environmental Commission finds:
1) That the amendment is consistent with the applicable elements of the
adopted goals, objectives and policies outlined in the Vail comprehensive
plan and is compatible with the development objectives of the town, and
2) That the amendment furthers the general and specific purposes of the
zoning regulations, and
3) That the amendment promotes the health, safety, morals, and general
welfare of the town and promotes the coordinated and harmonious
development of the town in a manner that conserves and enhances its
natural environment and its established character as a resort and residential
community of the highest quality."
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Department of Community Development
75 South Frontage Road
Vail, CO 81657
PH: 970-479-2138
FAX.- 970-479-2452
www. vailgov. corn
October 4, 2012
Town of Vail Planning and Environmental Commission and Adjacent Property Owners
Re: A report to the Planning and Environmental Commission on the administrator's
approval of an amendment to an existing conditional use permit, pursuant to Section 12-
16-10, Amendment Procedures, Vail Town Code, to allow for the continued use of a
private parking lot, located at 934 South Frontage Road/Unplatted, and setting forth
details in regard thereto. (PEC120034)
Applicant: Vail Resorts Development Company, represented by the Mauriello
Planning Group
Planner: Warren Campbell
Dear Planning and Environmental Commission members and adjacent property owners:
The purpose of this letter is to inform you that the Town of Vail Staff has approved an amendment to
the approved conditional use permit for the Vail Resorts private parking lot located on the former
BP/Amoco gas station site. The conditional use permit for the private parking lot was conditionally
approved on November 23, 2009, with an expiration of November 23, 2012 or the obtainment of
building permits for Ever Vail. As Ever Vail will not be moving forward by this deadline the applicant
has requested an extension of the conditional use permit. Staff's approval includes the following
condition:
1. This conditional use permit shall expire on November 23, 2015, unless the proposed Ever
Vail project has submitted for building permits and is moving forward diligently towards
the start of redevelopment.
The Town of Vail Staff has determined that this amendment to the approved private parking lot
conditional use permit meets the review criteria prescribed by Section 12-16-10, Amendment
Procedures, Vail Town Code. This administrative approval of a conditional use permit amendment
will be reported to the Town of Vail Planning and Environmental Commission at its Monday, October
22, 2012 public hearing at 1:00 p.m. in the Vail Town Council Chambers, located at 75 South
Frontage Road West. The Planning and Environmental Commission reserves the right to "call up"
this administrative action for additional review at this hearing. This administrative action may also be
appealed by an adjacent property owner, any aggrieved or adversely affected person, or the Vail
Town Council as outlined in Section 12-3-3, Appeals, Vail Town Code.
Should you have any questions, please feel free to contact me directly at 970-479-2148.
Sincerely, �r J
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Warren Campbell, AICP, LEED AP
Chief of Planning