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Nicole Peterson - Re: Market plaza PEC approval
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From: Nicole Peterson
To: Mike Foster; Warren Campbell
Date: 02/24/2009 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: Market plaza PEC approval
CC: 'Anne F. Gunion'; George Ruther; 'Michael O'Connor'; 'Rick Pylman'
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After the meeting yesterday, Staff discussed the main criticism's heard at the meeting and listed the following:
1. Neighbors are protective of landscaping along the south side
2. Canyon effect
3. Digital model accuracy
4. Loading and delivery on E. Meadow Drive?
5. Future trans ortation needs?
In response to the opposition, Staff discussed the possibility of including future transportation needs (i.e.
additional bus lanes and loading & delivery) to the model. I would agree that it would be helpful to lower the
building. Please let us know if you are agreeable to showing the model, and if you agree that we should
incorporate future transportation needs. Thanks much, _
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"Mike Foster" <MikeF@triumphdev.com> 02/24/2009 6:15 AM
Nicole / Warren,
Thanks for all your help yesterday in receiving a 3-2 approval at PEC.
Now we need to discuss when you would suggest going to Town Council. We have two thoughts on that, go as
soon as possible OR wait for either meeting in April, your thoughts?
We either need to work more on the model OR just not show it to the council. The model is still showing the
building too tall. I think the building is to be lowered by half a level at the very least. The residential element
appears to tall across from the Mountain Haus. I think dropping the elevation and reducing some square
footage would help that canyon affect. I will continue to work with Anne at VAg to further study both those
issues.
Nicole / Warren, would either of you have time to meet with Michael O'Connor and myself this morning in person
or on the phone to talk about the next steps? Please let me know,
Thanks again,
Mike Foster, Architect, Development Manager
Triumph West Development, LLC
8120 Woodmont Avenue
suite 800 -
Bethesda, Maryland 20814
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Architects & Planners
Project Name: Triumph Development - Market Plaza
Date: March 4, 2009
RE: Project Worksession
FROM: Pedro Campos, ASLA
Anne Gunion, AIA
Gayle Wright
TO: Mike Foster
Greg Hall
CC:
1. Meeting Kick-off
1. Introductions
2. Review goals of meeting
II. Overall Streetscape and Circulation
VAG, Inc Architects & Planners
Project No: 2730.00
Triumph Development
Town of Vail Public Works Department
1. Potential Roundabout at east end of existing garage
2. Turn-around and drop-off area in front of Mountain Haus
3. Possible location of Market Plaza sub-surface parking access
4. Landscaping along street & courtyards
III. Transit Center Studies
1. Various transit alternatives - varying intensity of change and redevelopment from existing condition
2. Opportunities and constraints of each
3. Town preferences
IV. Discussion and Next Steps
1. Feedback on studies
2. Next Steps in the process
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END OF AGENDA
Physical Address: (970) 949-7034 Mailing Address:
90 Benchmark Rd., Suite 202 fax: (970) 949-8134 P.O. Box 1734
Avon, CO 81620 email: general@vagarchitects.com Vail, CO 81658-1734
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The conceptual design proposal envisioned for the site employs a traditional approach to design in
its residential components. The placement of residential units on upper floors or in `brownstone'
scaled buildings is a standard tradition in urban areas large and small to create rows of modestly
scaled attached residential units.
Goal #4: To preserve existing open space areas and expand green space opportunities.
The Southeast, West and North sides of the parking structure would be maintained and enhanced
with organic landscaping elements to transition smoothly into the Vail Village core area. Open
plazas should be maintained as urban gardens, entertainment squares, and outdoor dining patios.
This area is currently designated as a "planted buffer area" in the current version of the Vail Village
Master Plan and is not recognized by the document as an important open space.
Goal 45: Increase and improve the capacity, efficiency, and aesthetics of the transportation
and circulation system throughout the village.
An infill development in this area should be accomplished without major closures of the parking
structure and may in actuality fix many of the existing structural problems currently existing. Any
infill building here should remain independent of the parking structure, which would allow for
future expansion of the parking structure. Locating mixed use program elements in the core of town
and adjacent to public transportation encourages maximum pedestrian circulation and minimal
vehicular traffic. The expansion of private parking for the project can potentially occur via access
through the existing parking structure and underground of the new buildings.
Goal #6: To ensure the continued improvement of the vital operational elements of the
Village.
This amendment would allow for a project that will address important community needs and Master
Plan considerations without precluding future options for the Village Parking Structure. It will
allow for the continued operation of the existing facility and allow for future development with the
potential of additional service and delivery facilities. In addition, the gateway created will enhance
and improve the guest experience and circulation.
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Nicole Peterson - RE: vail market plaza update
From: "Anne F. Gunion"
To: "Jeff Winston" "Chase Mullen" "MikeFoster" "Nicole Peterson"
Date: 03/16/2009 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: vail market plaza update
To All;
Please see my comments below.
Anne
Anne Fehlner Gunion AIA NCARB
Founding Principal
annefg@vagarchitects.com
VAg, Inc.
Architects & Planners
970.949.7034 PO Box 1734
970.949.8134 fax Vail, CO 81658-1734
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Winston [mailto:jtwinston@winstonassociates.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:45 AM
To: Chase Mullen; Mike Foster; Nicole Peterson; steve@triumphdev.com; Anne F.
Gunion
Subject: Re: vail market plaza update
Warren, Nicole, Anne,
Two thoughts in reviewing the latest model:
1. Big Picture Transit Accommodations
When Warren, Nicole and I met with Greg Hall after the last meeting, one of
the revelations was that Public Works had actually given quite a bit of
thought to future transit needs in the vicinity of the parking structure,
including an expansion (to the south) of the upper deck of the structure,
and how the rail system might work (either in the median, or adjacent to the
frontage road, 30' in the air, with an elevated connection to a transit
station on the parking structure).
I came away with the impression that this was a very important consideration
in using the Market Plaza infill to mask the transit center improvements.
There really isn't a good way to do them, aesthetically, without Market
Plaza.
This was to be part of the subject matter of our follow up net meeting work
session with Greg, which was then cancelled in favor of Anne and Greg geting
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together separately to discuss these items and Anne drawing them up. I don't
see these ideas referred to in Anne's drawings. Were they discussed? Are
they incorporated into the new layout? Are they going to be shown in a
separate diagram? IT IS ESSENTIAL TO SHOW THEM IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO JIM
LAMONT'S GOOD QUESTIONS!
Mike Foster and I are meeting tomorrow to review the concepts and then we will
diagram them up for incorporation into the model. Please note that based upon what
I know to date on Greg's thoughts I believe it is a really good thing that we have
incorporate some 4 story elements as it will most likely be the only way to
disguise the extra level.
2. Canyon Effect
In looking over the latest version of the building massing, Chase pointed
out a section that comes close to a 1:1 ratio--right at the NE corner of the
Mtn Haus. While this is allowed in the W Guidelines, I wonder if, in
response to the comments received from the public, one wouldn't want to
shape the Market Plaza massing differently. For example, either put the low
section (that is now just east of the stairs) further east (reversing it
with the taller section to the east). Or, perhaps just tapering up more
gradually from the low section, with a two story section opposite the Mtn
Haus.
I think taking a look from the balcony of one of the low corner units of the
Mtn Haus might help Anne decide which is best.
Should we have Chase also do a "before" version with the existing trees on
the berm? Showing the transit improvements WITHOUT Market Plaza?
We can easily bring this area down some more. I will sketch something up, review
with Mike and Steve and send off for revision to the model. In regard to the
section of building just to the East of the existing main stairs, it is current
being shown as a two story structure. It was our intention that that area albeit
less deeps in areas still reflect a 3 to 4 story mass as depicted in the revised
street elevation. I think I perhaps confused Chase in our discussion last week.
The area I intended to be 1 to 2 stories is only in the two small pocket park areas
between the 3 to 4 story portions as shown on the street plate. If it is possible
can we put the old section of the area just to the East of the stairs back and add
the revised `two-gable' roof design and review what that looks like.
Jeff
On 3/15/09 3:10 PM, "Chase Mullen" <chase@winstonassociates.com> wrote:
> Here are some new images, I have to clean up a few bits, plant some trees and
> such but here is the new model. The tight section shown is just a bit under
> the 1:1 ration 48' wide and -45' tall.
> Conf call info for tomorrow
> 1800.430.0714
> 3203069
> I will give the WebEx number over the phone, see you all at 2.
> Chase Mullen
> GIS / visual Specialist
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WINSTON ASSOCIATES
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>
4696 Broadway
Boulder CO 80304
>
303-440-9200 (p)
>
303-449-6911 (f)
>
chase@winstonassociates.com
>
-----Original Message-----
>
From: Mike Foster [mailto:MikeF@triumphdev.com]
>
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 10:27 AM
>
To: Chase Mullen; 'Nicole Peterson'
>
Cc: steve@triumphdev.com; 'Anne F. Gunion'
>
Subject: RE: Triumph Dev estimate
>
Nicole,
>
I just spoke with Chase and gave him the go ahead on modifying the model. I
>
asked him to be quick so we can keep the cost at the 3k estimate.
>
He is still needing the streetscape information from you, he said you were
>
aware of this. Can you please get him that information as soon as possible?
>
Thanks,
>
Mike Foster, Architect, Development Manager
>
Triumph West Development, LLC
>
8120 Woodmont Avenue
>
>
suite 800
Bethesda, Maryland 20814
>
301-657-1112p
>
303-475-4413c
>
303-953-8626f
>
www.triumphdev.com
>
-----Original Message-----
>
From: Chase Mullen [mailto:chase@winstonassociates.com]
>
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:32 AM
>
To: Nicole Peterson
>
Cc: MikeF@triumphdev.com; steve@triumphdev.com
>
Subject: RE: Triumph Dev estimate
>
The building changes will happen rather quickly but there is going to be a
>
considerable amount of grading/landscape work to make it believable. I would
>
estimate about 3-4 days and $3k-4k.
>
One thing that I do need from you Nicole is the landscape improvements that
>
have been installed along E Meadow Dr. so that those improvements can show
>
up along side the "proposed" ones.
>
Chase Mullen
>
GIS / Visual Specialist
>
WINSTON ASSOCIATES
>
4696 Broadway
> Boulder CO 80304
> 303-440-9200 (p)
> 303-449-6911 (f)
> chase@winstonassociates.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicole Peterson [mailto:npeterson@vailgov.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:35 AM
> To: Chase Mullen
> Cc: MikeF@triumphdev.com; steve@triumphdev.com
> Subject: Triumph Dev estimate
> Morning Chase,
> I didn't hear from you yesterday, about the estimate. I'm out of the office
> today, therefore please email the estimate and 'reply to all, instead of
> calling. Thanks much!
> Best,
> Nicole
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Nicole Peterson - Proposed Berm Development
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From: Joe McHugh
To:
Date: 03/15/2009 4:54 PM
Subject: Proposed Berm Development
CC: Lamont Jim
Ladies and Gentlemen:
I am stunned that the Town Council would give any consideration whatsoever to the proposed
amendment to the Vail Village Master Plan to permit private, mixed use development of the landscaped
berm on the South side of the Vail Village Transportation Center. The proposed private development
would replace the beautiful landscaped buffer between the transportation center and the village proper
with an unsightly urban development which would further urbanize and "canyonize" the center of Vail
and further diminish its ambiance. And has anyone given any thought to the fact that adding more retail
space with more competing retailers adjacent to the transportation center will exacerbate the problems
of our already struggling retailers in Vail Village? The Council could better to devote its time and
energies to solving the large and growing parking problem and other economic issues faced by the
Town of Vail.
The proposal currently under study - to charge visitors for parking on the frontage roads - is another
appalling proposal. The recent exorbitant increases in parking fees in the Vail Village Transportation
Center have succeeded in driving away much of the tradesmen's traffic which has clogged the parking
structure for a few years, but has also infuriated and alienated many local and visitor users and driven
them to go elsewhere or to park on the frontage roads - thereby exacerbating the frontage road parking
problem on weekends.
Please use common sense and vote against these two absurd proposals.
Sincerely,
Joe McHugh
4014 Bighorn Road
Vail, CO
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There is potential for future expansion of the parking structure eastward along with other
ancillary development potential... Foremost among these is development over the
expansion of the parking structure.
The primary purpose of this sub-area is to provide parking for the entire Village area. The
priority of any expansion to this facility should be to maximize the amount: of additional
public parking available at this site. An important consideration in future expansion of the
TRC is the view corridors as depicted in the Building Height Profile.
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Transportation Structure. Any expansion should maximize the number of additional public
parking spaces. There is a potential for a one to two story structure over the parking
expansion to accommodate some type of public purpose facility. Special emphasis on 3.1,
3.2, 5.1, 5.3, 5.4.
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befi*~ that provides screening and structural support to the south side of the Vail Village
Parking Structure. Infill of this site would add needed vitality to the East Meadow Drive
streetscape, create a strong pedestrian connection between Vail Valley Drive and Willow
Bridge Road and provide a more defined edge to this portion of Vail Village. The potential
uses of this site should support the goals of providing additional retail, office and local
ownership housing into Vail Village. It will be important for any infill development to provide
parking consistent with town regulations to support the uses. Commercial uses should be
located west of ~~idge Plarza-and on both sides of major portals to and from the
parking structure to suppo treetscape vitality, while the land east of the main pedestrian
access portal should be predominately residential. A variety of three and four story building
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(02/02/2009) Nicole Peterson - RE: Market Place - Village Parking Structure 3D Page 1
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01/30/2009 12:38 PM
RE: Market Place - Village Parking Structure 3D
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Chase Mullen
GIS / Visual Specialist
WINSTON ASSOCIATES
4696 Broadway
Boulder CO 80304
303-440-9200 (p)
303-449-6911 (f)
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From: Chase Mullen
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:37 PM
To: 'GRuther@vailgov.com'; 'npeterson@vailgov.com'
Cc: 'Jeff Winston'
Subject: Market Place - Village Parking Structure 3D
Jeff has brought it to my attention that Mike Foster is expecting a 3D
presentation at the Feb. 9th meeting. We (Nicole, George, Jeff and 1)
need to get into a conference call either with or without Mike Foster
and decide what the timeline is for this project and what the city wants
to see in the model (level-of-detail, scope, existing parking structure,
other code items like maximum building envelop) ASAP, give us a call.
If there is any chance of me making the Feb. 9 presentation I need
drawing sets ( roof, site, and elevations ) drawings/blue prints on the
highlighted building and the parking structure by Monday morning. I also
need the topo, airphoto, and lot-lines for the entire city (I did talk
with Shawn earlier this week and he was working on it but I have not
received anything yet).
From: "Steve Hawkins" <steveh@mountainhaus.com>
To: George Ruther<gruther@vailgov.com>
Date: 12/31/2008 1:27 PM
Subject: Mtn Haus / Notice to multiple contacts / 2008.12.31
Dear George,
It has been suggested that we request multiple contacts here at the Mountain
Haus for any official information regarding Triumph Development's
application for amendment to the Vail Village Master Plan relating to the
Vail Village Parking Structure site.
These contacts should also survive in the event this application goes into
any future form of development on the Vail Village Parking Structure site.
We request that all notices be forwarded to the following contacts:
Steve Hawkins
General Manager
Vail's Mountain Haus at the Covered Bridge
292 East Meadow Drive
Vail, CO 81657
Barbara Banks
General Council
Mountain Haus Home Owner's Association
Banks & Imatani, P.C.
225 Union Blvd., Suite 310
Lakewood, CO 80228
And,
Mr. Tad Smith
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President, Board of Directors
Mountain Haus Home Owner's Association
207 Quail Run, PO Box 831
Alto, NM 312
We would appreciate your confirmation of reciept of this e-mail.
Regards,
Steve
Steve Hawkins
General Manager
Vail's Mountain Haus at the Covered Bridge
292 East Meadow Drive
Vail, CO 81657 USA
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970.476.2434 Voice
970.476.3007 Fax
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