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HomeMy WebLinkAboutFocus Groups. s CHAMONIX WENDY'S 2008 MASTER PLAN FOCUS GROUPS MEETING MINUTES 7 February 2008 p ~c~~ad~ D FEB 13 2008 TOWN OF VAIL On 7 February 2008, four focus group meetings were held including Town Department Directors, Infrastructure Focus Group, Emergency Services Focus Group, and Employee Housing Group. Following are minutes from each of the group meetings. Scot Hunn (Town of Vail), Michelle Thibeault (Stan Clawson Associates), and Gilbert Sanchez (Studio B Architects) facilitated the meetings. TOWN DEPARTMENT DIRECTORS The following departments were represented: Library, Economic Development, Finance, Town Manager, Assistant Town Manager, Community Information, Police Chief, Human Resources, Public Works/Transportation, Fire. The Directors were asked if the department they represented had any specific information regarding the subject sites to contribute. No direct concerns or limitations were discussed. Michelle reviewed the parameters the Advisory Committee outlined for the subject site (see attached copy of hand-out) and asked for input. from this group. Group comments included: • Rental housing should be considered as well as for-sale housing • Need units to accommodate all sizes of families, rental and for-sale units • Consider building asub-grade parking structure to fun[tion as a park-n-ride under the Wendy's site • Consider an information booth at the Wendy's site • The Chamonix and Wendy's site should be treated as one large site, not as two separate sites to maximize design and use of the land • There is a need to store cinders for the public works department. • The public works depdrfiment currently houses a significant number of fire department equipment/vehicles. • Consider some dormitory units for seasonal workers, there is a huge need for housing seasonal workers • Ambulance substation"should be considered at Wendy's site as Ambulance district is losing its location at the hospital • .Police substation (single office) should be considered at Wendy's site to allow officers a location to draft reports. The department representatives were"also provided an informal questionnaire about their department's specific housing needs. These surveys are still being collected. ~. INFRASTRUCTURE FOCUS GROUP The infrastructure group had four attendees representing Public Works (Greg Hall), Engineering (Tom Kassmel), Building Department (???), and a member of the public (Jim Lamont) as well as consultant Anne Pagano of Drexel Barrell 8~ Co. Transportation Comments included the importance of linking the "community center" with the "village center" and wondered how transit at the Wendy's/Chamonix site could help foster that goal. Also noted was the need to maximize parking and the opportunity to over-park the development to allow commuters a parking area. A future transportation hub is proposed near the Safeway parking lot. This may allow bus service to the Chamonix area to be one directional, with transfer opportunities at the transportation hub. The existing bus stop at the Wendy's station is likely to remain. The southbound entry into the round-about needs to be expanded if proposed housing on the Chamonix site utilizes Chamonix Road. It is currently a single lane access, while the: other three access points are two lanes. Expansion of the round-about would likely require ah easement onto the Shell Gas Station property. If access to the Chamonix site were limited to an access point along the frontage road, the existing round-about would be sufficient to handle anticipated traffic. The intersection at Chamonix Lane and Chamonix Road has a difficult turning radius. Any access to housing on the Chamonix site will have to carefully consider the grade and sight lines along Chamonix Road. The Shell Gas Station alsq functions as a tow-lot and has a significant amount of automobile storage. There are only ;three gas stations in town, it is important to preserve the remaining stations for community benefit. Collaboration with the Shell Gas Station owner should be considered to improve access'to the Chamonix site as well as buffer visual impacts from the services provided at the,gas station. Storm Water Storm water drainage needs to be improved along Chamonix Lane. A short ditch runs along the south side of `the Lane and would function better if emptied into the westerly, steep corner of the Chamonix site.:. This area is likely unusable for development otherwise. A drainage easement would be required through the Chamonix site. Another ditch runs along the northern side of the Lane and will likely need to be piped. If this ditch is piped, a sidewalk could be built over the pipe. Residents generally walk along the northern side of the lane for safety. Water quality design will be required. Detention is not required by the Town, but may be needed for sustainability design. Best Management Practices (erosion control measures) are required during construction. Tom Kassmel will provide mapping of existing storm sewer in the area as it was not picked up on the survey provided by the Town. 2 Another ditch runs along the northern side of the Lane and will likely need to be piped. If this ditched is piped, a sidewalk could be built over the pipe. Residents generally walk along the northern side of the lane for safety. Water Service Regarding estimates of utility costs, it was noted that the Water Department will charge an up- density fee when either of the subject properties are rezoned, plus a watersource fee, plus tap fees. Tap fees are never waived. Snow Storage The Chamonix site currently functions as snow storage. This will be important to consider in the relationship of buildings on the Chamonix site to the Lane. Fire Protection Water tanks for fire fighting and water pressure exist above Chamonix Lane. Our team needs to discuss this with the water department to see if there is a need for additional Tanks or pumps to provide adequate water pressures for fire protection..' Noise Consider impact of highway noise in the design of all buildings. Cross ventilation that runs east/west may reduce impact of noise better than south/north ventilation. Quiet may be more important that views for outdoor spaces o be useful. Additional meetings with each of the utility 'providers will be facilitated by the Town in the near future. A sidewalk along the northern property boundary is proposed with this project. Pro's and con's of the north side versus the south side of Chamonix Lane were discussed. It was suggested that the south side of the sfreet may be better received' by the residents that live on the north side since they would not be responsible for sidewalk maintenance and liability. 3 EMERGENCY SERVICES FOCUS GROUP The emergency services group was attended by representatives from Eagle County Ambulance and the Vail Fire Department. There were eight attendees. The operational needs of the department were discussed considering the two existing facilities and what opportunities this proposed facility could augment. Gilbert reviewed a building program matrix to help better determine the overall needs of the fire department. Some of the items discussed included: EQUIPMENT/FACILITY • Bunker storage separate from apparatus is ideal but not necessary • Locker style restroom to keep toilets separate from showers; need enough showers to accommodate at least four people • Need individual lockers for Class B uniforms. • Equipment and facilities for response personnel ideally located on ground level to reduce hazard of stairs or pole. • Outdoor BBQ area. • Equipment currently stored at Public Works includes 15 ft box trailer, communications van, county HAZMAT trailer • Double-bays may accommodate both storage and engines • Special utility requirements include an emergency generator • Existing stations very cramped. ADMINISTRATIVE • Prevention and Response personnel have different needs. • Prevention needs a separate conference room from response to review building plans; this room is needed' full-time. • Need separate: class rooms from conference room. • Keep public/administrative spaces separate from response team needs. HOUSING • Studentresident dorm units in a separate building if provided at all; too much disruption to residents if pgrtlof response building • Rental and for-stile housing for full-time new hires separate building from station • Administrative staff of 8 persons • Four. response-duty staff need individual rooms on-site • Snowplow not an ideal neighbor to fire department. OTHER USES • Ambulance District' may be willing to fund part of the fire station as potential future replacement space for their Ambulance District would need three bays; 3-5 sleeping quarters; day room; office; storage (existing facility is tight at 5,000 SF); some support services could be shared with Fire Dept. • Cultural differences between fire department personnel and town staff offices could result in conflict. Gilbert emailed the fire department the matrix to better narrow the description of uses for the proposed fire station. A follow-up meeting with this group is scheduled for 13 February 2008. 4 . ., EMPLOYEE HOUSING FOCUS GROUP The employee housing focus group was attended by ten members representing current residents of employee housing, employers, the Business Chamber Association and long-time locals. Rental/For-Sale/Seasonal • Must consider what might occur at other sites (i.e. Timberidge) and not plan for this site in a vacuum. • Dorm-style housing is not appropriate for this site. • Seasonal housing needs should be satisfied at another site. • Permanent housing is needed to attract and keep professionals and families. • Many persons residing in employee housing stay, not really a stepping stone anymore. Rental units are an opportunity for people to get in and move-up to ownership. • This site should be 100% for-sale, no rentals (there. may. be rentals at Timberidge) Size of Units/Number of Bedrooms • 2-3 bedroom units allow singles to stay and grow into families • Some one-bedroom units are needed • The Medical Center has a need for keeping housing' in close proximity to the Center. • Need units sized and priced for first-time homebuyers (i.e. Stratton Flats and the Commons) • One bedroom units are the hardest: to sell (owner's can't sublet a bedroom to help subsidize their mortgage; additional bedroom provides opportunity for housing additional employee) Target Market • Water & Sanitdtion District have a need for units aimed beyond entry-level employees; two & three bedroom units... • There is an overall void in`three 8~ four bedroom units for families with two or more children • Target market is middle-management and young professionals with some .opportunities for employees above and below those income levels Unit Attributes • Units need adequate storage • Decks are desirable • Sound mitigation between neighbors important Parking Michelle noted'that monies spent on parking are monies taken away from units and asked the group if the current parking standards are appropriate (see attached exhibit). • Parking -need two spaces per unit • Maximize least desirable space by utilizing as parking and/or storage for units • Two car garages not available at most [no] other employee housing development; need at least one garage • Shared garage (i.e. Commons) is expensive to HOA because of damage to garage door • Need to accommodate guest parking • Parking should be limited to residents and guests only - no excess parking for strangers (commuters or otherwise) to be meandering through this home site . ~ ;. CHAMONIX-WENDY'S 2008 MASTER PLAN EFFORT PUBLIC OUTREACH NOTES FEBRUARY 2008 CHAMONIX SITE: RESIDENTIAL LIVABILITY Common or Agreed To Themes For Sale/Rental/Seasonal • Permanent (for-sale) housing is needed to attract and keep professionals and families. • This site should be 100% for-sale, no rentals (there may be rentals at Timberidge) • Must consider what might occur at other sites (i.e. Timberidge) and not plan for this site in a vacuum. • Dorm-style housing is not appropriate for this site. • Seasonal housing needs should be satisfied at another site. • Many persons residing in employee housing stay, not really a stepping stone anymore. Rental units are an opportunity for people to get in and move-up to ownership. Pedestrian & Vehicular Access, Parking Parking should be limited to residents and guests only - no excess parking for strangers (commuters or otherwise) to be meandering through this home site ,:Maintaining existing neighborhood pedestrian access through site not necessary, this invites more non-residents to meander through the home site; a sidewalk should be continued for the neighbors to use Other • Housing adjacent to proposed fire station ok; this occurs at the existing station. Individual or Minority Ideas For Sale/Rental/Seasonal • Consider some dormitory units for seasonal workers, there is a huge need for housing seasonal workers • Rental housing should be considered as well as for-sale housing • Need units to accommodate all sizes of families, rental and for-sale units Pedestrian 8 Vehicular Access, Parking • fvlaximize parking and the opportunity to over-park the development to allow commuters a parking area. CHAMONIX SITE: RESIDENTIAL DESIGN Common or Agreed To Themes Unit Sizes • 2-3 bedroom units allow singles to stay and grow into families • The Medical Center has a need for keeping housing in close proximity to the Center. • Need units sized and priced for first-time homebuyers (i.e. Stratton Flats and the Commons) • Water & Sanitation District have a need for units aimed beyond entry-level employees; two 8~ three bedroom units • ~ c~r~ overall~void in three 8.#our bedroom units fAr families with two or more children • Target market is middle-management and young professionals with some opportunities for employees above and below those income levels Area of Conflict • Someone-bedroom units are needed • One bedroom units are the hardest to sell (owner's can't sublet a bedroom to help subsidize their mortgage; additional bedroom provides opportunity for housing additional employee) Integration Of Chamonix & Wendy's Sites • The Chamonix and Wendy's site should be treated as one large site, not as two separate sites to maximize design and use of the land Parking • Parking -need two spaces per unit • Two car garages not available at most [no] other employee housing development; need at least one garage • Maximize least desirable space by utilizing as parking and/or storage for units • urea=garage (i.e. Commons) is expensive to HOA because of damage to garage. door. • Need to accommodate guest parking Amenities • Consider impact of highway noise in the design of all buildings. Cross ventilation that runs east/west may reduce impact of noise better than south/north ventilation. Quiet may be more important that views for outdoor spaces to be useful. • Units need adequate storage • Decks are desirable • Sound mitigation between neighbors important • Maximize SF for housing -landscaping for design and open space acceptable but don't give up lot area for a dedicated recreational use, there are sufficient neighborhood parks 2 .~ r CHAMONIX SITE: EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY Common or Agreed To Themes Traffic & Public Transportation • A future transportation hub is proposed near the Safeway parking lot. This may allow bus service to the Chamonix area to be one directional, with transfer opportunities at the transportation hub. • The existing bus stop at the Wendy's station is likely to remain. • ~baundaar~try into-the round-about needs to be expanded if proposed housing on_the Chamonix site utilizes. Chamonix Road. It is currently a single lane access, while the other three access points are two lanes. Expansion of the round-about would likely require an easement onto the Shell Gas Station property. If access to the Chamonix site were limited to an access point along the frontage road, the existing round-about would be sufficient to handle anticipated traffic. • ~e intersection at Chamonix Lane and Chamonix Road has a difficult turning radius. Any access to housing on the Chamonix site will have to carefully consider the grade and sight lines along Chamonix Road. Neighborhood Commercial • The Shell Gas Station also functions as a tow-lot and has a significant amount of automobile storage. There are only three gas stations in town, it is important to preserve the remaining stations for community benefit. C~Ilpboration with the Shell Gas Station owner should be considered to improve access to the Chamonix site as well as buffer visual impacts from the services provided at the gas station. Stormwater Drainage, Snow Storage • ~n:.wateradrainage needs to be improved along Chamonix Lane,.:, A short ditch runs along the south side of the Lane and would function better if emptied into the westerly, steep corner of the Chamonix site. This area is likely unusable for development otherwise. A drainage easement would be required through the Chamonix site. • Another ditch runs along the northern side of the Lane and will likely need to be piped. If this ditch is piped, a sidewalk could be built over the pipe. Residents generally walk along the northern side of the lane for safety. • A sidewalk along the northern property boundary is proposed with this project. Pro's and con's of the north side versus the south side of Chamonix Lane were discussed. It was suggested that the south side of the street may be better received by the residents that live on the north side since they would not be responsible for sidewalk maintenance and liability. • Th~Chamonix site currently functions as snow storage. This will be important to consider in the relationship of buildings on the Chamonix site to the Lane, Individual or Minority Ideas • Comments included the importance of linking the "community center" with the "village center" and wondered how transit at the Wendy's/Chamonix site could help foster that goal. 3 ,~ WENDY'S SITE: EMERGENCY SERVICES FACILITIES Common or Agreed To Themes FIRE STATION: General Needs • Wendy's site is more appropriate than former proposal on Chamonix Site • The public works department currently houses a significant number of fire department equipment/vehicles. • Equipment currently stored at Public Works includes 15 ft box trailer, communications van, county HAZMAT trailer • Existing stations very cramped, overcrowded with personnel and equipment. FIRE STATION: EQUIPMENT/FACILITY • Bunker storage separate from apparatus is ideal but not necessary • Locker style restroom to keep toilets separate from showers; need enough showers to accommodate at least four people (current station only provides a single room with one shower, toilet and sink - no privacy, insufficient for number of personnel) • Need individual lockers for Class B uniforms. • Equipment and facilities for response personnel ideally located on ground level to reduce hazard of stairs or pole. • Double-bays may accommodate both storage and engines • Special utility requirements include an emergency generator FIRE STATION: ADMINISTRATIVE • Prevention and Response personnel have different needs. • Prevention needs a separate conference room from response to review building plans; this room is needed full-time. • Need separate class rooms from conference room. • Keep public/administrative spaces separate from response team needs. FIRE STATION: HOUSING • ~.. r.~si~ntsiQr~n-units in,a separate building if provided at all; too much disruption to residents if part of response building • l#at-~nd.fi~rrsale hQUSing for,full-time new hires separate building from station. • Administrative staff of 8 persons • Four response-duty staff need individual rooms on-site • .Snowplow not an ideal neighbor to fire department. Ambulance District • Ambulance District may be willing to fund part of the fire station as potential future replacement space for their Ambulance District would need three bays; 3-5 sleeping quarters; day room; office; storage (existing facility is tight at 5,000 SF); some support services could be shared with Fire Dept. • Ambulance substation should be considered at Wendy's site as Ambulance district is losing its location at the hospital. Other Municipal Uses • Cul#ural differences between fire department personnel and town staff offices could result in conflict. 4 ,J~ Individual or Minority Ideas • Police substation (single office) should be considered at Wendy's site to allow officers a location to draft reports. • There is a need to store cinders for the public works department. • Consider an information booth at the Wendy's site • Consider building asub-grade parking structure to function as a park-n-ride under the Wendy's site ~ y, w Relationship to Neighborhood • Maximize SF for housing -landscaping for design and open space acceptable but don't give up lot area for a dedicated recreational use, there are sufficient neighborhood parks • Maintaining existing neighborhood pedestrian access through site not necessary, this invites more non-residents to meander through the home site; a sidewalk should be continued for the neighbors to use • Housing adjacent to proposed fire station ok; this occurs at the existing station. Public Private Partnerships • This development should be net new housing, not an opportunity for developers to solve their mitigation needs • Employers interested can also provide equity to help lower construction loan costs • Variable appreciation caps might help marketing • Potential partners might be Water District, Medicdl Center, Schoo! District, and generally larger employers such as the Cascade, Marriot Hotel, Lodge At Vail, etc. • Important to maintain equal access to the employee housing units if a-:PPP is established. 6 12./ G;~~~'~ ~ ~ ~~~ ,( 1 k'C~l~c-'~ J~ C-tt~'tZi-~ CCu,`~vv~) ~vL ~.~c-'C~+L~ ~v"~Z~'L~--" c_ ~~~ - . , L~r 1)~~~G~ t S ~~ . ~~~ ~ ~ ~~~ ~~~ ~r~~Jlc-Tim . T~vlS .- ~ , - CyltOrtGC' • ttaT~i/ltS~ U4.Mli- J~2lt3t~l~ . ,` • S'tYUt~C~- s l Oct, ~"''~ '~U Nr~'S~ ~A ~Uv S'~4~ . 1 -~- ~~tt ~-ro ~-8 u- ~I vt~ t,~.~f ~.~~an~- sup_ 0~ ~ t ~~- l~ j'C~ t~Gt L(T ~s ~W lf~I-~~7 Qcxwocr.~ ~o~t,t c, W~ ~Fti~ / wwt,~- .~ ~ ~~~~5 ~Vt~u~1G~j ~.7. ~~ ~~ ~ics2. 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La+~a,M • Ltk+.r+E.) ~ .~ ~1~p~ ~~s _ ~~~i - ~ wt~t- ~ JN~~ tit~o~c~.l ~ VS . ~ b~t't~Z-r- c~ G CHAMONIX-WENDY~S 2008 MASTER PLAN INFRASTRUCTURE FOCUS GROUP 7 February 2008 MISSION: The Infrastructure Focus Group will provide input specific to neighborhood needs, goals, and similar information that will be useful in the master planning effort. HOW INFORMATION WILL BE USED: Information from the Focus Group will be considered in site planning and future design guidelines for emergency services facilities and employee housing on the Chamonix/Wendy's properties. Information from other sources will be balanced with the input gained from this Focus Group. Town Council Advisory SCA Team Committee Town.Staff Employee Housing Emergency. Services Focus Group Focus Group Neighborhood ~ Infrastructure Focus Group Focus Group CHAMONIX WENDY'S 2008 MASTER PLAN INFRASTRUCTURE FOCUS GROUP GUIDELINES: The Advisory Committee has outlined several goals and considerations regarding development of employee housing and emergency services facilities at the Chamonix/Wendy's properties: Employee Housing • For-Sale Units are preferred over rental units a. For-Sale units will contribute to long-term residences; long-term residency creates neighborhood vibrancy b. There may be other sites that are more appropriate for rental housing 100% of the housing built on the Chamonix property should be deed-restricted a. There is a critical shortage of employee housing in Vail, every square foot of the property is needed for employee housing b. The round-a-bout is at/near capacity; introduction of mixed-use development would certainly have a negative impact on round-a-bout c. Mixed-Use development likely won't generate enough income to pay for itself, certainly not enough to subsidize construction of the AH units d. The CC3 zone district (West Vail Mall/Commercial Area) is likely to re-develop- that is a more appropriate location for mixed-use development. e. Housing will be focused on the Chamonix site; emergency services on the Wendy's site. • Rezone to the Housing Zone district to allow for greatest flexibility in density and design. The goal is to optimize use of precious land. • A mix of one, two and three bedroom units is preferred. A limited number of four bedroom units might be acceptable. a. Greatest demand for two-bedroom units. b. Buildings may be 5+ stories to maximize use of property c. Height at Chamonix Lane to be considerate of existing residences. • Limited or no vehicular access from Chamonix Lane as a goal. An emergency access point (similar to the Commons) may be acceptable. • Maintain and enhance pedestrian/footpath access from Chamonix Lane to frontage road. • Site orientation and communal areas important a. Consider issues of shading during winter months that may negate use of outdoor spaces b. Useable outdoor spaces have been well used at other EHU developments. c. Use of space for employee housing is priority over recreational facilities. Fire Station • The Wendy's property was specifically purchased for development of a West Vail Fire Substation. • The Wendy's property is appropriate for emergency services facility development, the Chamonix Site is not. The Chamonix site should be preserved for employee housing development. o A third fire station will complete the fire department's needs. o Development of a fire station at this site will enable better response times to West Vail. o An ambulance substation would be reasonable, however municipal offices may not be. • Allow for up to 18,000 SF station with living quarters; training facilities; and four engine bays. Sustainable Development • Energy efficient, environmentally sustainable design important. • More important to realized design benefits than a specific credential. Certain credentials (i.e. LEED certified) may be costly, preferred funding be spent on construction of the project. c CHAMONIX WENDY'S 2008 MASTER PLAN INFRASTRUCTURE FOCUS GROUP QUESTIONS FOR FOCUS GROUP 1. Are there opportunities to improve services to the existing neighborhood? 2. Are there existing traffic conflicts? 3. Are there long-term infrastructure improvements that could be efficiently included in this development? 4. Are surrounding services adequate to sustain the significant development proposed? a. Adequate water pressure? Etc. 5. What easements may be required? Will the utility providers being willing to share a single trench or will we need to accommodate for multiple utility easements? 6. Generally, utility providers pay for the installation of their utility lines to a new development. Is there any expectation that this would not be true at the Chamonix/Wendy's properties? CHAMONIX WENDY'S 2008 MASTER PLAN EMERGENCY SERVICES FOCUS GROUP 7 February 2008 MISSION: The Emergency Services Focus Group will provide input specific to emergency services needs, goals, and similar information that will be useful in the master planning effort. HOW INFORMATION WILL BE USED: Information from the Focus Group will be considered in site planning and future design guidelines for emergency services facilities on the Wendy's site. Information from other sources will be balanced with the input gained from this Focus Group. Town Council Advisory SCA Team Committee Tawn Staff Employee Housing Emergency Services Focus Group Focus Group Neighborhood Infrastructure Focus Group Focus Group CHAMONIX WENDY~S 2008 MASTER PLAN EMERGENCY SERVICES FOCUS GROUP 2005 (Previous) Plan: • Define a location for the fire station and other uses • Explore financing options • Study feasibility of drive-through engine bays • Allow for expansion of station up to 16,000 SF and from two to four engine bays • Create adequate outside staging for the fire trucks GUIDELINES: The Advisory Committee has outlined several goals and considerations regarding emergency services facility development at the Chamonix/Wendy's properties: • The Wendy's property was specifically purchased for development of a West Vail Fire Substation. The Wendy's property is appropriate for emergency services facility development, the Chamonix Site is not. The Chamonix site should be preserved for employee housing development. o A third fire station will complete the fire department's needs. o Development of a fire station at this site will enable better response times to West Vail. o An ambulance substation would be reasonable, however municipal offices and other co-uses may not be. • Energy efficient and sustainable design and construction • Explore phasing and financing options Allow for up to 18,000 SF station with living quarters; training facilities; and four engine bays. CHAMONIX WENDY~S 2008 MASTER PLAN EMERGENCY SERVICES FOCUS GROUP FOCUS GROUP QUESTIONS 1. What are the immediate needs of the fire department? Expansion items? 2. How many employees are anticipated for this station? How many summer interns? 3. Who needs to be housed at the station? Permanent versus shift-quarters? 4. Is the addition of an ambulance and/or police substation logistically feasible? What are potential conflicts? What are potential areas for economical overlap? 5. Are there public uses this facility should incorporate, i.e. emergency operations command center/public meeting room? 6. Are there facilities missing from the existing two stations that could be incorporated into this development? 7. How soon is this facility needed? 8. Are there any special utility requirements that should be planned for? Contact Info: Scot Hunn, Town of Vail 970.477.3551 shun@vailgov.com Michelle Thibeault, Stan Clawson Associates, Inc. 970.925.2323 michelle@scaplanning.com 412 N Mill Street, Aspen, CO 81 bl 1 CHAMONIX-WENDY'S 2008 MASTER PLAN EMPLOYEE HOUSING FOCUS GROUP 7 February 2008 MISSION: The Employee Housing Focus Group will provide input specific to employee housing needs, goals, market and pricing, resident profile, and similar information that will be useful in the master planning effort. HOW INFORMATION WILL BE USED: Information from the Focus Group will be considered in site planning and future design guidelines for employee housing on the Chamonix site. Information from other sources will be balanced with the input gained from this Focus Group. Town Council Advisory SCA .Team Committee Town Staff Employee Housing Emergency Services Focus Group Focus Group Neighborhood Infrastructure Focus Group Focus. Group , :~ c CHAMONIX~WENDY'S 2008 MASTER PLAN EMPLOYEE HOUSING FOCUS GROUP GUIDELINES: The Advisory Committee has outlined several goals and considerations regarding employee housing development at the Chamonix/Wendy's properties: For-Sale versus Rental • For-Sale Units are preferred over rental units a. For-Sale units will contribute to long-term residences; long-term residency creates neighborhood vibrancy b. There may be other sites that are more appropriate for rental housing Free Market Housing or Mixed Use As A Means to Subsidize AH 100% of the housing built on the Chamonix site should be deed-restricted a. There is a critical shortage of employee housing in Vail, every square foot of the property is needed for employee housing b. The round-a-bout is at/near capacity; introduction of mixed-use development would certainly have a negative impact on round-a-bout c. Mixed-Use development likely won't generate enough income to pay for itself, certainly not enough to subsidize construction of the EH units d. The CC3 zone district is likely to redevelop -that is a more appropriate location for mixed-use development. e. Housing will be focused on the Chamonix site; emergency services on the Wendy's property. Zoning • Rezone to the Housing Zone district to allow for greatest flexibility in density and design. The goal is to optimize use of precious land. Unit Types A mix of one, two and three bedroom units is preferred. A limited number of four bedroom units might be acceptable. a. Greatest demand for two-bedroom units. b. Buildings may be 5+ stories to maximize use of property c. Height at Chamonix Lane to be considerate of existing residences. Financing Several financing options should be studied: a. Land lease (similar to Common's) - it is important that Vail retain ownership of the land or adeed-restriction in perpetuity b. Use Fee-in-Lieu collections as a source of funding c. Public-Private Partnerships Sustainable Development • Energy efficient, environmentally sustainable design important. • More important to realized design benefits than a specific credential. Certain credentials (i.e. LEED certified) may be costly, preferred funding be spent on construction of the project. Traffic and Access • Limited vehicular access from Chamonix Lane as a goal. An emergency access point (similar to the Commons) may be acceptable. CHAMONIX-WENDY'S 2008 MASTER PLAN EMPLOYEE HOUSING FOCUS GROUP Neighborhood Amenities Maintain and enhance pedestrian access from Chamonix Lane to frontage road. Site orientation and communal areas important a. Consider issues of shading during winter months that may negate use of outdoor spaces b. Useable outdoor spaces have been well used at other EH developments. c. Use of space for employee housing is priority over public recreational facilities or amenities. CHAMONIX WENDY'S 2008 MASTER PLAN EMPLOYEE HOUSING FOCUS GROUP FOCUS GROUP QUESTIONS 1. Who is the target market for this development -singles? Families? 2. Are two-bedroom units in the highest demand? What is the second highest demand? Is this the demand of our target market? 3. What will make this development more appealing than down-valley projects to attract the target market? 4. What are the minimum square footages needed to attract our target market? Eagle County Guidelines Pitkin Count Guidelines Studio 600 -1100 SF $156,300 - 254,000 400 - 700 $36,000 - 398,000 One Bedrm 750 - 1300 $167,400 -- 272,100 600 - 900 $45,000 - 424,000 Two Bedrm 900 - 1500 $200,900 - 326,400 850 - 1100 $54,000 - 452,000 Three Bedrm 1050 -1700 $232,100 - 377,200 1000 - 1400 $63,000 - 478,000 Four Bedrm 1200 - 2000 $241,100 - 391,700 1 100 - 1900 $76,000 - 504,000 5. What are the appropriate price points for the future buyer? 6. What are appropriate parking requirements? Should alternative modes of transportation and/or variances from required parking standards be emphasized in the site plan? Current land use code requires: • 1.5 spaces for 500 SF or less • 2 spaces for 501 to 2,000 SF • 2.5 spaces for 2,001 SF+ 7. What is an appropriate schedule for this project? Should the project be phased? Contact Info: Scot Hunn, Town of Vail 970.477.3551 shun@vailc1ov.com Michelle Thibeault, Stan Clawson Associates, Inc. 970.925.2323 michelle@scaolannina.com 412 N Mill Street, Aspen, CO 8161 1