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HomeMy WebLinkAboutVail Adivisory Minutes 7 May 08Chamonix-Wendy’s 2008 Master Plan Effort Chamonix Advisory Committee Meeting 7 May 2008 On 7 May 2008, a Chamonix Advisory Committee meeting was held and attended by 15 persons to consider three options for development in connection with the Chamonix-Wendy’s 2008 Master Plan Effort. Following are minutes from the meeting. Scot Hunn (Town of Vail), Stan Clauson (Stan Clauson Associates), Patrick Rawley (Stan Clauson Associates), and Gilbert Sanchez (Studio B Architects) facilitated the meeting. Three options considered are Option 1, Neighborhood Cluster (12 du/acre), Option 2, Alley Street (14 du/acre), and Option 3, Village Neighborhood (22 du acre). Attendees’ comments included: Option 1: • Would like to see one way street. • The fire configuration is good for public use. • Emphasize green spaces between pods. Option 3: • What does the structured parking and multi-family building do to HOA fees? • Concerned that high HOA fees could “saddle” affordable housing development. • Less asphalt usage preferred. • G?ood compromise on density. • Like that Option 3 as two different neighborhoods. • Option 3 with fire station from Option 1 would be good. • Like the separation of higher density from lower density. Chamonix Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes Chamonix-Wendy’s 2008 Master Plan Effort 7 May 2008 • Due to grade change, could garage be 1 ½ levels? Fire Station: • Fire Department prefers the fire station from Option 1. • Student housing configuration can be resolved. • Using fire station as slope retention a cheaper option. • Look to South 40 station for use of glass and visibility of station from public point-of-view. • What is the fire station budget? Modular Construction: • Cost of modular construction is estimated at $85 -$115 per sq. ft. Site work for project in Aspen is approximately $60,000/unit. • One example of successful modular construction in Vail. • If you can “push and pull,” modular okay. • Use of various materials with modular can be successful. • Modular can have very high finish quality. • Concern over construction techniques of multi-story modular building. • Construction of multi-family using modular construction would utilize framework. Units “plugged” in. • Would like to see photos of modular construction. Maintenance: • Maintenance costs should be considered over the long term. Garages/Parking: • Should garages be common or individual? • Common garages create issues of who parks where, storage, maintenance, and administration. • Common garages allow for more parking. • Individual garages are used for storage rather than parking. • What about smaller scale common garages with assigned spots? • Some resistance to common garages due to the question of what is yours. Chamonix Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes Chamonix-Wendy’s 2008 Master Plan Effort 7 May 2008 • Example given of Aspen Walk development in Aspen concerning reluctance of free market residents driving through affordable housing parking area. Not really an issue. • Garage choice is a lifestyle choice. • Whether common or private, garages are necessary. • Common garage may cost more but plowing is very expensive as well. • Must look at long range cost over initial cost of garage construction. • Parking is a primary concern for this project. • Need for at least 2 spaces per unit – one garaged, one outside. Storage: • Sufficient storage is important. • Common garages provide for storage. Sales Price of Units: • Sell units for cost. • Banks have special financing for affordable housing. Land: • Will the Town of Vail give land? • Should the Town of Vail sell land and use money for other investments, possibly additional affordable housing. Ambulance: • What is their involvement/commitment with the project? • Location down valley? Density: • There is a need to accommodate as much density as possible. • Density is a question that needs to be dealt with by the Town Council. • Need to “optimize” (increase) density. Unit Mix: • Are 4 bedroom units necessary? • Need a unit at 650 sq. ft. to drive down the monthly cost. • Make units smaller. Chamonix Advisory Committee Meeting Minutes Chamonix-Wendy’s 2008 Master Plan Effort 7 May 2008 • Purchasing power of the target audience needs to be considered. • Possibility of unit with 1 bedroom with a den for additional space? • Schemes should be characterized based on family friendliness. Traffic: • West leg of the roundabout needs to be emphasized. • Fire station entrance must be 150 feet from Shell Service Station entrance. Miscellaneous: • What is the goal/focus of the development? • Advisory Committee needs to make recommendation to council. • Need public spaces.