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HomeMy WebLinkAboutVAIL VILLAGE FILING 1 BLOCK 5C LOT D E BRIDGE STREET BUILDING AKA CASINO 1981-1982 LEGAL/t 1 {mll;rl m ttft i '* f-o i Dear Don: DICK RYAN Cornmun ity Devel oprnent Di rec tor DR: br departrnent cf colnrnunity deveir:i:rnent Rt: Casino Building 75 $cuth tro tase ro. [''""- -'--*-*"--- '] vail, c.'loredo 81S57 i I(303) 476-7S00 L****-_**.-. _.-,j August 3, .l98? Don Gelgan tsr'idge Street Real Estate and Investment Company 236 Bridge Street Vail , Colorado 8.|657 Please fjnd enc'losed a cop-y of the buildjng pel"mit for the Casino Buj1,Jing redevelopmerrt. You'lI notice that there !{as no recreation fee charged.This was an overs'i ght by niy staff rrrembers, as they consjdered a remidelgf_!!u buiiding as not adding arly square footage. 0bviously, there is6'227 square footage of GRFA being adried r.,rhich-is cleariy siibjcct to theRecreation Amenities Fee. The fee js $l .00 per square foot in commercialCore I, and thus we have an oversight of $6,227 on our hands. I. apologize for the mistake, but mr;st ask that thc cieveloper pay hle fayg budgeted these funds for sunner recreat.i on projects andto.hold to that budget. I really appreciate your cboperafion onand, again, I,m sorry {or the nijstake, Sincerely, the fee. must try th i s nntter lllIFoz ul t rro Ltot- F IJo Gtll u.J al:l F' \-j v _:\ E'r'. R .-*-\;.'t' \ t1 ,-.-. 30 -- ',<;Si"'i(-$ ,.i -lr ,ar:+::a?.f:..-i; 1.: , :-- rf-J:i:... \,] r€.\.! s'\ _.--l t!: O l-U{ t?: i- :.".'., .-.! C! a-ti: :l \'J!: CLcl c oF c.) -c 4,,q)t) CJ.f U r.l)l: Ec c)IJ c .E: to E ;:c:l c) {u 3 €). .: (, !) ., ar*U_rJ.,J S? t c ,l "r -ll :iT]; (): rr.- (.) l-=!c c'-o> nJ(gCU ;>=: cY'"(g oO>;:-;>6r! E cr n'' d?o3oloc': c)'!- l:-Clrl.Y :: rrj iars a"d:- oru:: o- '/)!oU);;:€ Yu!rro ;Eo9 cJ cJ='"> -: c).Efrt: si I ilJ >(J>1 .5ruiy rO'OO-, ;'fis II -d- or;cc)@ i::) -_) v *'l .,1 '- ;I 1-0- Y F t:5lf u.l rl- a-\ c\l"oC O. F*n c'l 'r .<i' I r.lt I- IIJ \J;2. cJ L--- Lt* ,ll i;t. 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Frontage Rd. l,test Vai1, Colorado 81657 Dear Roger: 0n, July 2L,_ 1982, the Des.ign Review Board-approved a portion of yoursubmittal for facade revisions to the casinb'eu'itdi;gi-'iire eoaradenied.your.appl'ication for windo* r"uiiionr on the east facade. Thewest elevation roof ridge_e1 evation change ruas approved. The stuccocolors have been changed trom nunrnJr-e6t5 to numbir-s006. 'ir,u awningcolors and materials were approved us vris the enclosure for theel evator. Si ncerely, .fu e"",-* Jim Sayre Town Planner JS:df [:- {i \7-: +€+G. \-.-Q+ 6 s- --- ul -Itr l^r rY t\ -.s \J'L F$ \n fi c\./ L I\l i,.) t'; K t ul$ ii$ { f'' 9--T- ^*\z<!- €ke-s!T*; \.\So\-- O- f$a- lt\l1lt $ t $:r s$ & $4 :=J $t' oil Nr- R.=* t. I tl LjI c$\ 0\ o+ II !*-','L ;1q\- ....-.:b\? '.-> sll $tll 'll ril dl H t\ Es, SN5- _ssf-T- -J \t--l{q Project Application Proiect Name:hla Proiect Description: Contact Person and Phone Owner, Address and Phone: fil*]l) t*\(e cct*>a S= STO €t-ld+ar ., Architect, Address and Phone: Legal Description: Lot Block Filing Zone Comments: f q l- l'/thlr39F,\) Nrs7ll|rg-/J r, \ rytti)4?fo-L)lA I Tfl,ccv AA 3 --l "tl Design Review 2^ I TAFeyA A S. b! Board - ilar LJ D"," iI./|.>, 2f / S L- 3/ ?oo1" - 4'?Lu'a ,/+a'a'a $'/t| &'2Y5 q^z* t nc.r.:,41#4$9!lAL 6*\),.',r- tsi4.)d, F tdtc Motion by: Seconded by: APPROVAL ,1)- r#Tzf r^-o- t -rt f"'fi summary: SEt t-Lf'slt- Frzou P / Ea< t- 64tauux) E statt Approval piarca. boldrlin ond ossocicrLes, inc. orchi[actura . plonning Ju1-y 21, 1982 CASINO BIILDINC REDEVELOPMEM I PRESENTATION AGENDA FOR PROPOSED FACADE REV]SIONS- DESIGN RXVIEW BOASD MEETINC JULY 2T. L982 Item la. Item lb. East El-evatlon; double windows ,shutters due to (Interl-or spaees East Elevation I a wlndow on the 213. Change two single wlndows to sllght modlflcatlon of wooden wlndow changes . numbers, 202 and 4Bl2) Resclnd staff approved change of add East ELevatlon at the south end deck r.l natcho W ed *arrt-@y nat ch eTr *9flA,1 ,/ %* ffi' submit t ed 2. Inlest Elevatlon: Modlfy r.oof 1lne for llvtng room of Unlt A (space no. 4A02) frour a gable roof configuratlon to a shed roof configuration. The new roof w111 follow the same eLope as major roof plane adJacent. AdditlonaL roof helght w1L1 provlde loom to pJ-ace cLerestory windows on the south walL of the living room, to Lake advant age /,.Fr\of deelrable vlews to the south. An additional benefLt l9will be the nodified roof l-ine whlch wi.1l not direct roof snow onto the deck below. Item 3.Modtfy approved "stuccott qol"or from rstor color numb er 8615 to t sto I color numb er 90@. Texture of f lnlsh co macch existLng, renaining stucco on the Caslno Buildlng. lten 4.pproved ar.rnings and awnl-ng colors per the presented coLor samples,. l-ngs and 1t em Eneloeure deslgn for elevator. WaLLs and toof to material and color of the rest of the buiJ"ding. f?a9 n ??7c- 1000 soufr frontog@ rood wost . voil, colorodo 81657 n3/476-4433 ( oa ?IERCE BALD4TN AND ASSOCIATES, rNC, II,TJU S, FRONTAGE ROAD WEST VAIL, CO 81657 . Tau,1 FJa*or - s,n, ruucrn / - xuwen: 9il?- onrr: crhlf?<- P0+A)78{/ E?flr*oa) - (/Jrtt/, s//fL6f0unf --€1 -'-*-T IIl-lo". t1#.?b _] ra ffi:; i9-\ -ePI AR.H irE?{HqF /'rET-tl'Eq 5t strt jfi*ttat 5r =lo I- \ +j ll \9 dr(\ a 7 ,9 .t; O' ;-sgdJ {I I -- -l il PROJTCT I'lIET I I]G PROJECT:6,#//td BL26 KEOEU NUMBTR:A//Z amr:lipQjz- TYPE: CLItNT, CONTRACT0R, C0NSULTANT, T.0.V., 0THER PRTSENT'Jtm Seyre , rd. /. Don 6i/qw 6.tf, //r*/') "1,#, PBd-nn?r ffit.--.) cc; V+rrt'aP*'J. /a-a-5on NOTES: /01 fuolc. ariT-J: A'/". 202 ?,t/P, Gordon R. P. 0. 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FJ'}*{$R, " A//PlUn{. 6R*^J, ail tuE /AtZ of t),{ iltf l/frae Pier-ce, Baldrpj-n & Assocj_ates , Inc . 1000 South Frot.lt.tqe Road, L,lestVail, Colorado 81557 Archr-i tectureT@ Ianninq(303) 4'76-4433 to tl Mql { oldwinpiarco.6 t.ono ossoctot@s, Inc. orchitectura . plonning 26 Aprtl 1982 Dlck Ryan, Toun Plsnner Town of Vail 75 South Frontage Road, WestVa{l, C0.81657 CASINO BUILDING REDVELOPMENT BRICK PAVERS, ALLEY LIGHTING we have learned fron BlLl Andrews that the brlck paver ut11lzed at thePlazs at the south end of wall street lsl trsplLt paver No. 559" aval1-able fron ltllLen Brick 1n Deover. Ne understand fron our earlier conV€r-satlons_r^rlth you that thls 1s now the officlal Tor,rn of Vall paver. Coo=sequently, we will be uslng this paver Ln conj unct lon wlth our proJect. The Town of vall Ma'lntenance Departuent advlsedl our off l.ce that the only way of deternl-ntng the oake and aoder of the offlcial Town of vall streltlamp ls to contact the conpany fron which the lanps were purchaeeit bythe Town--Foothllls Ltghtlng ln Denver. t'Ie contacteit Mr. Tony pettte of that conpany and he advlsed ue that the Town ordered eustom manufae_tured fixtures, but a firtrere very eJ.rnLlar to the Towa of Vall streetlamp ls thelr nodeL nuobere c102, G104, and G105. }Je will provide threenodel G102 flxtureg ln the a].1ey rnounted on the slde of the caslno Build-lng and one nodel Gl02 mounted on ehe north eLevatlon of the buildlng.For your convenlence we have included a photocopy of the fixture rre pro- pose to lnstaIl. Please adviee thls office, in wrlting, prlor to May L, if there is anyreaaon to not utlllze the producte mentLoned. rf we have not recelveda wrltten rebuttal to the uee of the6e iteo8 by l{ay l, we wirJ. proceedwlth thelr installatton. for cons lderat lon . cc: Bl11 Andrews Don Gal.gan Ilorst Krebs Deslgn Revlew Board Encloeure 1000 south Frontoga rood ur€st , voil, colorodo 81657 n3/47g,433 Project Application Project Name: Project Description: Contact Person and enone s.&Gf 2 fuFffi* Owner, Address and Phone: Architect, Address and Phone: AOPBtvAv Fo /t- Pt <f . t , tu . U.rn- ,, "Design Review Board Motion by: Seconded by: APPROVAL DISAPPROVAL T'-r.t11 MCry to+-t < ,'{*eztc ' (f Fb.t4t* ,apa_aur-Et ag*.lt{t-t pa,4 t+u<taourJ Su m mary: fatufla Arz:t APA |uAL Nrrr /Ll.*-t_Jo/tJ b C a*v.z- # E statt Approval 4w4,(J'tJ Town Planner '5/6N4LL o/2- 4-3 piorca. boldwin ond ossociotas, inc, orchitecLura . plonning Aprll" 7, l9B2 Mr. Rlchard Caplan, Town Manager Torsn of Vall 75 South Frontage RoadVall, C0 81657 TOIIN COI'NCIL WORK SESSTON . 6 APRIL 19B2 REVIEW O? CASINO BUILDING & ALLEY I},,IPROVEMENTS I{e appreclate the opportunlty to revlerr thle proJect w{th the counell .Not.ed below is our understandlng of the responses frorn the councll regard-ing the proposed {nprovements. A. The a1-Ley deaign I"s approved as submitted. The Town of vail cannotprovlde funds to eubsldlze construction of alley improvenents on Town property; therefore, developm.ent costs are the responslbilltyof Gata Mora, Ltd. B. The 0uner of the Pi,aze Lodge should revr.ew ordLnances regardingrestrlctLons for any future tenantsr especlally as Lt relates tothe servLng of alcohol"ic bwerages. Tenants that utlllze Townproperty for thelr o\4n use wlLl probably be requlred to enterinto a lease agreement wtth the Town of va{l. for the use of that Town property. c. The steps lndlcated on the Northeast cortrer of the caslno Buil-dlngat Gore creek Drlve must be ellralnated from Tovm property, Frlckpaving mater{als may encroach onto Torm property provided thepavlng materlal ls at the saDe elevatLon as the street paving, D. Al1 other aspecte of the proposed site development are accepted as submltt ed . A copy of the Archltectts drawings (sheet A1 .2 and A2.l dated 3I March1982) related to thle meetr.ng weie filed wtth Mr. peter patten of theDepartnent of Connaun lty Developnent. Pleaee conCact our offlce If there are any questl-ons or counent s regard-lng t Booker cc! Mr. Peter patten Deslgn Rev lew Board Town Council Mr. Don Galgan; Gata Mora, Ltd. Mra. Joanne H111; plaza Lodge 1000 south frontoga rood urast . voil, colorodo 81657 n3/476-4433 oate 4/ fftltz'<H Projecf Name: 4 fi'j a ')"ri Archirecr, Address and phone: f t Ert r € 6t t c ual a) 'i tlss tl < Legal Description: Lot Filing Zone - Comments: Block Contact Person and Phone Owner, Address and Phone: Design Review Board .i t - t o"" /f uu't / Y z DISAPPROVAL 3z ll,tr ?1246 ?.- s lown 75 soulh frontage rd. vail, colorado 81657 (303) 476-7000 January 25, 1gB2 Roger Booker Pierce Baldwin & Assoc. i000 S. Frontage Rd. WestVail, Colorado 81652 department of community development RE; DRB Submittal of 1-20-82 Dear Roger: At their January 20, 19g2 meeting the Design Review Board qavepreliminary approval for the nd ;;;";-;o'pifii.nioil"iia,rinurapprovat for the Casino Building RJJe"vetopme;i:- i;.ir;.i u, upart of the Casino approval weri the ro'bwinj-c";;iii;;;,' 1) Al 1 Town counci'r conditions of approvar must be met prior toif"^i::yunge 9f a build.ing pu"rit;-"-'-tJ yuDtrc works deoartment_approval must be received;ll l::"-lltartment' approval mirst be reieivea;.ri Any encroachment upon or improvements upon Town of Vai.lproperty must receive approval'of the iown'councir; una-''5) Thg metat roof above'the Bra;de;;7c;dmus ReaI Estate 0fficemust be constructed of authentil,-*"rif.,".ing copper. The review by the Town council of encroachment and improvementsupon Town of vair oroperty wirl ta[e-piace at a Town councir worksession. I think it is important thal a letter addressjng the Towncounci t' s condi ti ons. of upi,"ou.i -u;;;;p;ni;i ;i il;' iooil,i"r ur"signatures be submittea ii-*'e-id;"s;5;f prior to any meeting. If you have any questions, please contact me. Peter Jamar Tovrn Planner PJ: df a TErrPLmE,,J; EFWcrlr vrrnrr:r c4ilru a _E4OG,__No. 3//Z 806ce 8aeF62 wtrH PhVE JA4*/\TO. V. PAI{rY CALI.ED .Z I --+-- ----- I SAID-IIARIY SAID /?CE 4u /r*/S tg gtttt/Ae 'daLD //2du/oE l0toc M7 rVE rtPztl/Eq:_ B oF fi/15 OozunEt) Pierce, Baldwjn & Associatcs, Inc. 1000 So. I.'rontaqe Ro.rd, I.'le:,-tVail, Coloraclo 81657 orsn/9J&il 3z-wyr, ?:aorz. CALLL]D Jg!_ _a _.. @!4 a F-& _ru +T- * _ _ _ ,E /,55UEIAJ6 _*_lerce_E?v_?t.g --!a/4ee.--frry. _ __. _s4&/J@-, _ . t_!!-t" _ t/120!&_ fw=-4o^)e_ __.Aetl. 'ut.L gtA 9f aruea- aaa-t 4um*6.&qt ^-f&etl--?t&-1rN-.P*-utde, PEJSr,aeT-*q) ol pi@rc@. bolduin ond ossocicr[os, inc. orchilec[ure . plonning 4 Januarlz 1982 CASI}O BIIILD]NG REDEVETOPS|mJIffiRE\rrE{BoARD IJFtsAN DESIO{ @.ISTDMATICNS 1. PMEStrRI.AN]ZATICI{ 2. \IEI]CLE PM.IEIRAfICDI This proposal nddresses pedestrian travel on ttrree lenzels"First, @estrian travel along Gore Creek Drive wiLj. be enhanced by separating t]1e pedestrian frcrn the roadrriray, alorrgtfie.norfhern f:sntage contnollecl by the Casilo Building, frcrr rrehicl-es and deliverlz operations, with both a slight eiewationof tlre walla*ay and in ttre form of trees with tree grates at qtreet, grade. Secondly, along ttre east side of the buiLiiing(Bridge Street side) ttre pedestrians will- utilize a sid*ralkseparated frcrn the street by raised pJ_anters, a change infinish rnaterial-s. as well_ as a sJ-ight grade ctrange. I,lanypedestrains rnay eJ.ect to rsrain in the '!street", due to thegeneral "pedestrian mallt' nature of the Vil_lage Core Area,Itrc third 1eve1 addressed by this proposal is the pedestrianmid-block mnnecling lid< betweal aridge street and vfral-l street - "Tlre Alley". It is ttre intention of the new Casino euil"clinq ohtners to Til,ork wittr the Ircrr..rn of VaiL, the pl_aza Buildinq o,ui"r=(arid tenants) ard any util-it1z cr11srar1.ies utilizing t1.is &sqrnntto_provide a pleasant @estrian ground level link between Bridgeand Wal-l Streets, A part of the rorodeJ_ing of the aJ_Ie7 is tolcorer the finish elevalion to fie in with the ocisting landingof ttre stajr on Wall Street. ALs9. the entrance to pistaefr:tgg Restaurant will be rerpdeled ffy Ihe identificaLiqr of actual shop types is cunently unknown,therefsre itis difficr-rlt to be speciiicaffy definitl-ve aboutthe nature and anrnrnt of vetricular traffiC required to sqportthe csmercial spa.ces. rlre developer has indicated ttrat tiresespaces will be restricted to higher quality, pedestrian orientedBoutique type shops and office space. Deliveries to theseshops and offices is anticipa.ted Lo ne simifar to other CoreArea est:brishnsrts of similar nature. The Tcnam Adninistration has addressed the ontror of deliveries in the core Area anf notraffic wtridr conflicts with ttre erci-sLing procedure is antici-pated for the ocnnercial spaces. fhe vetricle penetration 1000 south trontog@ rood u.last . voil, colorodo 81657 n3/4764433 3. generatd. by the tlrree proposed residenli_al rrnits will berestricted to occr4:ant delir.zeqr only. parking for the resi-dential r:nits is acccnplished by pelfnit, off site, at theparking struqture. S'IRffiI'SCAPE FRAI\48:I{3RK 5. S"IREET EDGE Since this proposal enaorpasses one @rner of a major. if notthe najor intersesLlon in the Ocmnercial Core One area, weirrterd to add to the street "life,' by creating a variety of nel^t mmercial activity generating shops, r.rpper-levet entrieswitJl colored ca$ras canopies, and street tevlt fay windoosthat provide visual ter<ture to ttre 1cr^zer portions of thefacade. By integrating the variety of accrrerical spaces at street level ryith a nore pedestrian scale and an irregular outline, a rrpreinteresting character will be acldeved at the pedestrian ane-a. STREET S{GOST]RE Ttre "Outdoor Rocrn" npdified by this proposal is made more inter-esting by irarrying the height, altering the buildhg edge and .crg?qtg a rore pedestrian scale along the roads fionting thisbuilding. ltre deck area added to the eastern faaade wili havethe potential of shop displays and signage to create furtherpedestrian focr:s. A canvas a^ming ahcr,re the d.ecJ< will enhance r*re peaestrian focns r._. The street edge is defined by the ctrange of sraterials frcrnasphaltlc street paving to bricj< sider,valk pavers. In certalnareas, tfie charaster ctrange is accented by grade charges,plarrters and tree clrates for landscaping witf, fiving plantnaterials. Access by deliveqr trud$ and fire departientvehicles is nnintained. 6. BUITDING I{ETGff the building height as proposed., thor.igh slightly raised, fa1lswell within the height arloarcd to the raidpoint or tne roof witfi-in ttre footprint of all portions of tfie luifaUg. Itre slightincrease and relocaticrn of ttre ridgeline poses tto viqnr corridorprcblens to adjacerrt buildings. f}re bui_lding to the south ofthe casino Building wirl have a higher roof line than that pc Snsed for the Casino Buildiag Redevelopent, 7. vllrvs Viq* "! ttre uajor or rnilor significance will not be adverselyaffecEed and short streetscape wisrs frcrn surror:nding buildings shouLd be enhanoed by reroval of "qgesore" structurei arxl ttrepedestrian scale generated by ttre picrposed redevelotrrrent. -2- I CODE ITEb4sB. ZCbINII$G I. DET{SITY CTISIROL Iot Area - 0.1-79 Acres or 7797.24 sq. ft. Allcn,rable GRFA - 6237.8 sq. ft. Actual GRFA - 4340.91 sq. ft. Allqnrable No. r.vrrits - A.AZS or 25 Un:Lts per acreActual }fr. trnits - 3.0 IANDSCAPING AI{D SIIE DE\iH,OPMEIfT Na,r landscaping is proposed jn ttre form of Living plants andtrees i"n no'r raised stsrc veneer planters, street grade treegrates wittr trees, and flcmer boxes on the faces oi tl:e buil-d- r-ng. The d:ci-sting al1ey will be lorrered, lighted, arrl paved, Thewalking area of ttre allqg nill be prowided with a head_ng eJ_e-fiEnt. Sloping gradas arxl agropriate water coltectim systenswill insure adeqrrate, proper site drainage. Thqse aff{rnaifi-catlons t,rill enlnnce year-round @estrian activier in -the al_lq,r. PARKING AND INAD:ING baaing and deliveries shal1 utilize the e:cistinq areas forthese purposes. Parking strall be in the parking structureard tlrough participation in the parking structure fr:nd i.:r ananpwtt mrtually agn:eed r4>on between the Topn of Vail and theDorelopers upor oorpletiqt of ttre project. 1. RmFS 2. ? a.Roof form will be a gabl-ed lcru pitclred roof witrr an asvnetri-cal.ridge acis. Roof perineter wilL generally folloru ileeperfueter canfiguration of the building. Roof pitd will rsnain consj-stent with the *isting 2\A2slope. Ihe rrcof overhangs will renain onsisterrt with tlre ecist:ing gverhangs of app:ro:cirnately ttrree feet on rrcst edges, Roofbean sr44nrts sjrnilar to those that slist rnay be retainedon the structure. The roof fo::ir wilL rsnain si:rple, yet varied and interest-ing. Ttris will be acccnplisfred bytlre turiform slope of tlrerroofs ccnrbined with the rndul_atiorx of the perimeter of theroof as it folls,,rs the building form. the site does not warrant arry roof steps due to clranges ingrade. - 1h9 ocisting roof stsps at tie ValLey Forrge portionof the building r.uill rsnain, vdth mincr alteratiois," b. e. -3- F Y. t'taterials will- be prirnarily a brril-trr4r :rcof, Grarrel crcloq3will be corpfererrtary to the overal_l- c-,ol_or sdlsne sf thebuilding. Ttre neiu roof will be a rloold rreofH t14>e, ocnmon to the qre. Gutters arui dmmspouts with heat tapes and jrrterto,r roof,drains vniLl be utitized as required. 2. FACI\DES a. the pnedcrnfurant ruateriaL ef the facede wil.L he a stucwelikefinisfi material, $econdar1. rnatecials wil"I be utiLlzed lnthe fom of stone at ttre base, glass at vrindcnrc qnd deers, and wood trjrn for general trim areas and vrrosgtht.tiron deck,ra-l]-ingis. Ccnnerqial Strop facades nBy vaq^ neU,,reen spaces/ hcr,,rever, the sane or sirnilar materiaLs vrtl"i" be uUillzLd. b. The prinary oolor to be uEed on ttre stucoo vstj_j. be wldteor an off white that wi$ be scrpatable wittr but Ligf,rtesthan the ectsting eolon utiLlzed st the Val_Ley Forog6 por=tion of tlre buii-ding (unless tfre orner of thal arei eLeetsto natdr the ner,v olor), $Itod trirq wil_L be darker ttraa and ooryU:oentarT to the stone color selected. c. The transprency of ttre flrst fl_aor ecnnerctel" spaces wil_Lhe greaten ttran tie upper floors, ylindqws will. naintain ahunan scale and ctraraeter. d. Srop and residentiel rri.ndsrus wi].l relain oensistent wttt,the character of the acnrnercier cgre qrea. ttindcnm shc,hmin this suhd"ttal_ maylrarlz vuhen shop Epaces ere occrrpld, hcr,rrever, tjre intent an1 corrcept vrl1l G rrJaintalned" er Doors w111 be treated in a qanner eonsistent w.ith the cheJrsacten and natr:re of ttre prcposed uses within tJre buiJ-dirrgand in ocnformance witfi the urban design co-nsideratlons, f . prcrdnerrt lrood trfun railL be utllized to arbictrLate tlre vrindcr'ss and doors of ttre building espeeially at tfie Lcruer:floor ocqnerc;lal spaces, 3. BATrcT{IES AND DECKS a. Balconies Inill- be oJ a useabr.e size and priruerily J.ocatedto t€ke a&antage of tfie lirnited sun afferyded tdttre build=ing and of ttre orientation to visrs End streeet r.ife bexow.Iarger, usable decks wiLL harre soLid rail"ingrs to preyentirposing feelings to peales&ians belcr,u. b. Most baloony rail"ings w:iLL haye an et:en l,4.q1g6.trcn raiJ.jwitlr an elegantly curned prrfil.e, c. l,'ibod, sttrc@ and r^a:orght-fuon w:ill. be ttre flglin fini$ rlBteris aLs r.:sed on the bal_oonies. -4- Iexpressd, 4, 5. d. Supporting deck nsdcens rny bejoist nenbers vriLl- be coyered. luseyerr erposed e. A najor lprtion of the o:risting deck on the WaLI $treetside of t-lre buiLding will- oontinue to be utili2ed. Use of tiui.s ded< r.xifL be enhanced, since lt wiLl be na1or entranses and CIrits for at Least b,ro mrrnercial_ sBErc€s. Ttre decf<will be landscalred, ACWNI &EMEDfIS Accent elsnents $dLl be incorporated though noL wel"l ilefined atthis tjrre ftie to l"ack of irprrt fr"crn spectiie tenants. Atrnlngs, deeJr urbrelLas, shop sigarage and gragrics, pS.anters, streetfurnitr:re anct l-ight fixutres r,.riLL prcnride aecent featrrres forthe projecb. IANDSCAPE EMNHiTTS a. Even tFough the proJect is ve4, tjJuited in mraiL$Le locaLlonsfor theu, deci&ror:s trees are pLanned for setreral- locations on all sides of tJle buiJ_ding and arrnral_, mlorful_ flcryersin vnindor pl.ant boxes and planters. b, Paving rnateriaLs will be brick Laid in a sard bed. Ttrepattern of tlre brick r,rrill be basket r,{eave to netcfr tfiatpattern ryr Wall_ Street" Ikre brick sel_esEed is the bricj< reccnnended by the tcl,mts landscape design oonsu.Ltsnt oran approved substitute, c. Ttre only retaining wal1sr,.ihjc&occrrr are adjecent to thePlaza Building in the a11ey, ttrese retaln:ing waLLs, asvaell as. the @estrian/riretricular separation pl.anters rriLl-be consistent with ottrer stone wall t1pes irrthe vicirrity, d. Lighting will be develoged in canjr:nction with the shop spaces, adjacent to tlre rnain building entry points, anh :inthe aLley. Street lights anQ,/or generat site fighting wiLlbe provided as deered appropriate. e. signage wiLl also be deveto@ in onjunction w"ith the rreri=-ous shops and mnsistent with the Tcnryr of VaiL siqr orilin= €ulces . SER\ZTCES6. The buirding is prorrided with an internaLJ-y contalned trastr ffcrFqSctor: Trash gererated by the builcting !,,:ilf be dellraered tothe nain trash picl< up points jn ttre area by ttre buililing nain-taj-nence 5:ersonnel. Ttre developers have agreed prev{ously to parbieipate in t}re oon=struction of a nsu trash ce*pactor enclosure toJtne area, c'urrrently proposed for erection near the Slifs BuiLdirrg, -5- luwn n 75 soulh lronlage .d. Yail, colorado 8'1657 (303) 476-7000 l|tl department of community development Deceriber 31, 1981 Mr. Don Galgan Byron Brorm Real Estate Box 547Vail, Colorado 81658 Re: Casino Building Dear Don : Last week I was at the Casino Building and noticed the storage space under construction. This space can be used by al1 usersof the building except the real estate office. DICK RYAN Conrnunity Devel opment Director DR:br a.I 'Pfu'st Profccl Appllcatlon o*" {4 ffio /% / Profect Namo: al5/ilo nt)/( D/il6 A''F/1Et/g/ A/HPI t,f Contact Person and Phone Owner, Address and Phone: L-l ,e6fl 52o- i;bq Architect, Address and Phone: ,[i6nl: lin,trp* / '//*- ,TJr '',,,,il y':t4. 4/3a €/K/4t t7b{, Lesal Descripti o^t ,o, Q t'{4/t , etocx 5 C , rnins VL tr'', zon" C(/ Deslgn Revlew Board (),&rr Dat€ Motion by: Seconded by: APPROVAL DISAPPROVAL Summary: ( uf,/t ic ,v ffiv'ft\'\ ru K5 I '/rVy'rt /^P \u//sV /t/ r 't L,*,,Ft,'. a-fih, . '> t;tr.:7 fiie lNt't (4*v'OP(3 Wea*21 Profect Appllcatlon Date ,,'/t !,"y'( Project Name: Project Descriplion' I /'ir' Contact Person snd Phon€ Own€r, Address and phone: Legal Description: Lot Block Filing Zo'l.e Com ments: Deslgn Revlew Board DISAPPBOVAL E Statt Approval piarco. boldu.rin ond ossocioles, inc. orchitoctura . plonning Aprll 7, 1982 l{r. Rlchard Caplan, Town Manager Tom of Vall 75 South Frontage RoadVail, CO 81657 SESSTON-6APRIL1982 BUII,DING & AI,LEY IMPROVS{ENTS I{e apprectate the opportuntty to revlew thls proJect wrth the couneir.Noted below Ls our understandlng of the responses fron the council regard-lng the proposed lmprovements. A' The elley deelgn 1c approved ae eubnltted. The Town of va1I c.nnotprovide funds to subsrdlze conetructlon of al1ey lmprovements onTown property; therefore, derreropment costs are the responslbilrtyof Gata Mora, Ltd. B' The owner of the plaze Lodge ahourd revr.ew ordrnances regardlngre'trlctlona for_ any future teoants, especlarly as r.t relates tothe gervLng of alcohoric berreragea. Tenant' tLt utllize Townproperty for thelr own use will probably be requlred to enterlnto a lease agre.'rlent wlth the Tor.m of Va{1 , for the use of thatTown property. c. The steps lnd{cated on the Northeast corner of the caslno Bulldingat Gore creek Dr r.ve nuEt be elrnlnated fron Town property, Brrckpavlng materLale luty encroach onto Town property provlded thepavlng materlaL ls at the ea[e elevatlon ag the-slreet pevtng. D' A11 other aspects of the proposed slte development are accepted aseubnltted. A eoBy of the Archltectre drawinge (Sheet Al .2 and A2.l198?) related to thls meerlng were ftled wlth Mr. perer Departnent of Corunrnlty Deveiopnent . Pl"ease contact our offLce lf there are any questlons orlng t}1ls project, 2 cc: Mr. Peter patten Dee{gn Revlew Board Tovm Councll Mr . Don Galgan ; Gata l"lora, Ltd .Mre. Joanne lllll; plaza lodge 1000 south frontoga rood uost . voil, colorodo g1657 dated 3l March Patten of the comment s regard- TO}IN COT'NCIL n3/4764433 ' -----.......- r)KrtlfEAS /At ?o,.-7y gnb'J Rp,.,-tlNA fleagqEu r)v b,K,,w-€ wfi2 t>Ft C/sr)qo geDS o>{ -lo\#l.t -YlffiD &ls*- C-orl{tt- Ex.b, R.?.\Af , *@t< -'TA,.)l.r ffial+C- to€prnoN5 ?rzo4 TD tlcDG. frouq I ('r Project Application ll 4?uo /%t Project Name: projecr Descriptio", EX TEK/o/Z f /,U/EE/AE. flLTfA.4f/0,19 Contact Person and Phone Owner, Address and Phone: ?ag) szo- 266? Architect, Address and Phone: 'ic) 3 4E,4.+sLegaf Description: Lot 9CrF , glsst<5c' ,Fitins I/V /{ac/ f+ , Zone commenrs: fta ,r 't eo 2ZB sreEra{. 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Roger Booker Pi-erce-Bal dwi n .& Associ ates i000 S. Frontage Rd.Vail, Colorado 81657 department of community development RE: DRB Submittal of 10-21-81 Casino 81dg. Dear Roger: At the October 21 meeting of the Design Review Board, your submittal for a winter facade design was approved with the fol'lowing stipulations; al'l windows in building to be replaced with windows or lighted display boxes, signs to be reviewed atlater date, app'l icant w'i 11 present "permanent des'ign" on or be.fore February 15, 1982 to Design Review Board, work out agreement wrthstaff to ensure that design is temporary and final design w'i ll be presented. Peter Jamar Town Planner PJ:df Subdivision Lot Bl ock Fi ling z TNGINTERING CHEEK LIST s'c _ I (Acceptable) (t{ot Acceptable) - trl.-e€=_=- 1. Submittal Items (A) Topo l'tap (B) Site Plan (C) Utility Pian (D) Title Report(t) Subdiv ision Agreement 2. [,ng'i neeri ng Requ i rementl ti (n) cutvert Sjze (B) Dri vcvray Gr,;d 3. Source of Utilit'i (A (B (L tD IL (F (i f appl i cabl e) FT87-maxi-GFtuat) -- e es il ectri c udi Seirer l,la ie r Tel eplrcrie T\I 4. COrr';netrt:; : Sre<t*c (i^,5.4:Es4//q*-2-&e- -e&ry4GE- /-tF.<o!%eE- -nOr-t OF Approved: Di sapproved: =_---:_.-.--:-'---_-Del,arLn:':n' o{ Public liiorks tu,", B€*_Zug eo meff€,€ gilfrtJ 7rl€ <o^!sE ?ven<E. OF W _::/'<f-L€" Te+ f *o,* w, " 417,. 31-'"';5 ffiH{,',ti*f,#.i:ff t^' Bill Arrdrei':s MEMORANDIIM T0 Casino BuJ.lding File FROM: Dick Ryan DATE: October 27, LggI RE: conditions of Approval by Town council at their october 6 neetingregarding the alterations and modifications approval . The Town council at_their meeting on october 6, rggl approved the casinobuilding exterior alteration and rnodification with these conditi.ons: 1. That the applicant agreed to participate in and not remonstrate agalnsta special improvenent district if and when formed for vail village. 2, That the appli-cant agrees to provide and pay for the alrey improvenentsincluding pavers and righting and street tights on Gore creek Driveand Bridge street intersection and the p"opJr"a irp"o""*u"ts to thesoutheast corner.of the buirding as it ionnects to the Virlage plaza .?l^"pj:^_In,addition, the applicant will be responsible for snow me1t,oralnage, llghting' powe.r, naintenance and rooi change and suburittingfinal design of the a11ey to be approved by the Town of Vail . construction rnus t be conpleted no rater than Decernber 15, rg82. 3' That the, applicaat participates financially in the construction ofthe trash enclosure facirity conpactor in the arrey of the sriferbuilding. 4' Ihl! l" heavy equipment or construction storage wirl be allowed onWall Street or in the nall area. 5. That 100% approval by the condominiun association for use of corrnonspace be obtained. 6. That condoniniun changes be carried out within the provisionsof the condonri-niun article by the declarations. 8, Hot tub on Wall Street or Bridge Street not to be allowed. rf there is a nini-improvement district forrned for the inprovementsat the intersection of Gore creek Drive and Bridge street'itrt tir"applicant participate on a front footage cost.'basis, also that pepi, JohnMcBride, and the petso.t who owns th" il["o" store would have to contribute. , t_ Meno - casino tT -r- t0/27/BI 9' The facade nust be cornpleted on the first floor by Christrnas or treated in,ian-"acceptab1e nanner similar to the Gondola One building conunercial space. cc: Don Galgan, Byron Brown Real Estate Gordon Pierce, Pierce Baldwin Architects a PLANNING AND I]NVIIIONI1IIi1AI, COI.I]\'iSSION MI]ITING Octobcr 12, 198i STAFF C4r- "* PRESIINl' Gerr)' I'{hit e Scott Ildr,,'ards Dan Corcoran Duane Pipcr Wil I ]'r:out Roger Til kemeier Jim }lorgan l ater Di.ck llyan Pctcr Patten Pcter Jamar Betsy llosol ack Larry Eskrvith COUNC I L Ron Todd l. Ap.p_roJal of rninges € Septenber 28, 1981. wi-1.1. I'rout pointed out that it.em 7, requesting a aear setba.ck for 1ot 1, resubof Lot 14, Block 4, Bighorn Srd, dicl not inctude a request. for a variancc frorna Setback flom a watercourse. With this correcticn, Scott r,rgved and Dan seconCedthat the ninutes by approvcd. The vot_e i/as 5-0 in favor. ? Annl i.^dr- ;^- r^* ^,. Ir_i:+:.1_:1gl_ :glg_lSlquare foot Gross Residential l.'1oor Area v a l i an c c f o r.',ri, i t-Ts 0 +=V-orlauf-e r-e onclon ili uir-s . ---- Peter .Janar explai.ned t.he nemo adcling that the applicant had aiso submittcdtwo alternate schemes ur'hich would not rec{uir-e a varj ancer, ancl that the staffcould not see that the applicant had unnecessary physical hardship. Tin Clark, archit.ect for Beck Associates, .said that the applieant dicln't haveenough roon in this condo (which he had reccivecl in an exiiangel , lle addedthat there was not enough lreight ::oon in the loft at present for. anythitrg else.He exPlajtted that to use the alternatcr pl ans r*oul<l mean having to go throughthe bath roon to the dressing. or storag" "t*.. Roger statecl it,at fernups Irthe plan rvere a he tter one, that "u, "rluro,., enough to grant a varia*ce. Dick llyan rruin<led then that a. sinila:: request in lvest vail receiltly rra.sdenied. l)eter Jana r', read part of the code, 18.64.010 regardir-rg nonconforminguses tt<! str{lctrrl:es being limited in enlalgen}cnt or alterati.on if it rt,ouldincrease the,discrepancll rvlr icl: the pickens rcquest cij-d (nacle it more non_conforni_ilgl lio5'er felt that erch case should be juclge<l on ir-s or\,r.r nerit. Duane felttnitt inconvenieirce did nrt sound Iike a retrl hardship. lvill felt that thcarchitecrt couLdn't achicve the salne thi.ng wi_th the ajternate plans. Scotrstatcd that he di,dntt have any problem wj.th thc bathroorn a.s pr:oposed, but thatin ordcr to fol lotv the ordinancg dj.dnrt see how they <:ould *pptove the request. Gerry moved and llan se:conde d to cleny, the re (iucst because th"r" i.s no rca Ihardship shor*l , ancl bcc:urse with the alter.natc plans, the applicant courdhave a l:ath without thc variance. Tlre vo1:c r.;a s 4-Z i.n favor ol. denial.Roger anci l{ilI votcd agairist, Roger st*t i.rlg tha t thc appl j-ca.nt nct all bur.the hardship criteria" anrl Will hacl statecl h.i s reason. .in order 1-o 1i-f t thc lestri.cti.orr Dick Ryan gave fact.s frorn the nem.r and .,;t:rted that the school had been a good neighbor in the Booth Crcek are a. lle addect thai two agt-.nci.e s would h;rve control over thc number of studcnts i.n the school: Thc St:rte Dcpartntent of Educatlon of Cololado and thc lloard of Di.rectors of the school. Joe Stauffero cirairman of the board of the Mountain School explained thatthc reason the school wanted to have largcr classes ru,:ls a social one, thatthe classes of 6 children h/ere too snall. lle added that thc school has fulfi].led al 1 the promiscs nade to work on the 1og cabin, pa.ve the parliLng lot, andlandscape. l'Jith the a.ddition of students, they woulcl not increase the sizeof the school building, and that the pre-sent facilities are adequatc and can hancll e nore student s - Disctrsslon follorved concerning whether or not to set a top lirnit of studentsin the conditional use pernit. Joe felt that wj.thout a top set number, thatthe school would use good judgernent with safeguards also fioni the State. He addcd that if the classes were too la::ge, many parents rvould complain. rfthe nurnber of students becane too much for the present facilitiei, they would have to cone back to the PEC to increase the si-ze or number of buildings. Dan spoke .in favo:: as a neighbor, as did N:incy i,liller, another neighbol',scott felt that if thcy rcrnoved the.studcnt linit, it was Iikely that thenext request would be for an increase i"n Lhe size of the buildi-ng. Joe saidthat the prescnt board was not planning on increasing rhe size of the building,but that latcr they wcre planning on coming in to ask to put in a custodialapartment in the loft area. Prc -l \)/12/81 !!gt1l-:!J_o_f sc9ry!t!-!ona_t:U_9-nS:$_t-.ia.-oge-L to l irnit t.hc s1.r"rdc.nt body of the Va j I l4ount;r j-n Sclrooi. Roger was involved in the original application process with Vail Associatesto use the land for the school, and remembered ihat the biggest concern wasto rcstrict tthe'number: of students for the benefit of the ncighbors adjacent,and l'elt that he had no objection to the increase if tlie students coulcl bekept rr'ithin the present building. itri.l1 Trout wanted to know the precise nunrber of students per: square foot ofbuilding linit the State would have on the school . .Joe wisnt t able to answerthis, but stated that 12 students per class was thc iclcal class size in theiropinion' scott felt that he would personally prefer a limit, even i-f it were be1'ond the boardrs expectation. Duine agreed rvith scott, but also agreedwith llan that the school would be using ihe state guidelines and also thatthe school had been a good neighbor. Roger noved and Dan seconded to approve the request for a conclitj.onal usepermit in order to lift the restriction to limi.t the student body for thereasoll that the State would restrict the number of stucler-rts, The vote was6-l in favor with l{iJ.l voting against. lvill was not opposecl to exparlsionbut felt he couldnrt vote withor-rt knowing exactly what^iire State restrictionswere in ternrs of numbers. The requcst was glanted. 7 I)i;r.t 0 /r?/81 -. Rcque st.for . a conditional. use ernit t o hirve a real estate office inot the Va I Vi.llagc tirn,-phasc III Appl icant .rl .rrr Ln.rrr6, ll I --t- -,U7 q,_j!r_try_.t_!_for a___varitirrr.:c frt:rn si.<lc aricl J'ront s<,:tbacks. l.ol a rcs j.donceat I /6.i s;trasf?i,-tot-T:t..-vaiT-Virr-aec llc.if aiilng-Lt '-Appjlca;r: '_.-*--* Gottfricd Angl ci tnc r.. Peter Patten c.xplaincd the merno adcti g that thc st-aff rccoitmended cienial ortablilrg to lct the ar:chitcct arrive ni;r hotter solution to the site. Jolin Pcr:kins, architect for thc appl icant, stated that the issue is thatMr. Angleitnel desircci to build an lluropean style ch$let, iLnd that tlic housewould have to be rectangul;rr:. outsidc ,iimensibns would be s0 x 40, feelingthat 2400 sq ft was a nccessary size for a family 6f .{. }Je explainecr thatthe lot faced south, and al-so the viervs are to tire -south, so tirey wantcd toput the garage in the back an<I out of the way, Dan stated that after being out on the site, that he would agree that itwas possible to have a better design. He was more in fav.rr of putti.ng thegarage in the front. .lohnts reply was that he didnrt h'ant to sirow tne garagedoors on the front el evation. Roger suggested putting thc garage on the othellside, and Peter repl ied tlut tl'ris lvould move the house within 5 feet of theproperty 1i-ne, and that those neighbors h,d alreacly disapproved of the planas it cxisted. John said that he has a lettcr from the owncr to the west and that this owr-rerdld not have any probl ero with i.t. Gottfried Angleitner, the or.ner, stated that he had bought the rot bcforeannexation and didntt realize the restri.ct.i ons. Hc feli that the iior:theastcorner: was not buildable. Dan pointed out that the neighbor to the rr,est irad.sold_the lot to Angleitner, Gerry fert that buirding tile house as presenteclwould overcrowd the neigl'ibors. Duane said he clid " ho.ty check on ^.q,rur" footage and found that with rr00 sq ft footpr:int-, with irl:.grrt, courci alrowthe structure to be close to the required size, and that tiiere still couldDe a lyTot ean stylc. John explained that the 1ot rcas 4 to 5 feet lower in the back, and wantedto work with Iittre excavati'g or fi11, More suggestio's regarding steppingthe living spaces dorrrn, ^t-rying to adjust the builcling shape to fit the rot,and, the south exposure foliowed. Roler mentioned tlrat the l,EC is concerrleclwith encrgy conservation, and that the south exposLlre wAS inportant. r)erhapsshifting the hoLise to the east wa.s discussed, though a letl-er had be-.e1 receivedt'ron the r)roperty ownel: to the east protesting the ietback Tequesrs. The owner requested tabling until the ncxt r-egular pEC nceting.The menbers voted in favor of the rcquest to table. Pctcr Patten cxplained the nrc:no,the mrl ls in Lionshcad arrd VaiI Jim Jacobson, rcl)res(,nt irrg thcfor officcs r.ather thrn roti.ril adding Vil lage that this mall and should be woul d be sini.lar to treated the sane Nay. applicant, stated shops". tlrat it was thtlt the location was ideal I ocated tol^/a rd the back, -4- 10/r2/8r Ilc addcd titat one woLrl.ci lrarrc tri go clor"in stai rs iind tl-urt it di.dnrt f it intothc traff ic p:ltter]r ancl was not on thr,: srrcct lcvcl, llu ad<letl that if thcrc wcrc to hc a nix of lcta".il uplcc, this rr'oLrl.d bc a.s close 1_o rr:taj 1 as nanythings. AbouL thc pa rking issuc as statcd j.n the nrerno, .Iacobson fc] t thatthe r'rhole idca of rnalls js to get peopl c in, and clidn't sce how a rcal estateofficc c:ould ge'errtc ])rore tr:rf.[ic than ai urniturc storc, ('t'he staff intl.tc rnerno .statcd that \,,'j th l2 sal.e s pcopl e, tlre rcal cstatc off ice wrls boundto compound the parking -situation. ) Ger:ry nentioned that thjs was to be a pcclestriau rlal1, :rnd that if all theretail spaces becane o{'fices, the inalllh;jilfti woulrl be lost. The rcalest.ite office could be on the 2nd floor ;is rvell, hc added. He felt that the t'rhol.e 'r'i.11age -should be tleated the samc. Dick l{yan explained that one reason thc new nall had a connection toward crossroads was to conncct to the openi.ng in crossroacls to thc west. He agreedwith Gerry that the idca ru'as to have a pcdestrian, shop oricnted mall to iryto t-ie togethcr the whole village. Jim Jacobson rnentioned that there was already a parking problern on the backof crossroads and wonclered how that could be a goocl pLacl for peoplc to walk,Dan fclt that this connection was better than the oni in fr-ont of Crossro:ldswhcre there wer:e 50 or 60 cars, Gerry White said that thecenter or dining, rather be vis i tor oriented. Danbe on foot aftcr parking traffic as a real estate pedestrian 1evc1 shor.rid be a more active shopping than office, Petel' P. added that the uses shouldpointed out that the visitor is alr:eady going toj.n the parking structure, and so would not generate office woul d . offices v/ere a real threat=-when they shops., it made sense to legi-slate them do browse thlough real estate offices lloweverr.he added that a real estate very valuable space, Scott stated that bacl< when real estate were meking nore noncy than the retailout of the core areas, brit that people I ooking at tl're pictures and brochuris.office on the ground floor does become Roger agreed that it nade sense to legislate real estate offices out of BridgeStreet or mall.s, but didrrtt think it nade sense to compare this rnzrll withVail vitlage and Lionshead. He felt that cach particuiar applicant shouldbe decided separately. Danrs concern was with ihe idea of lust trow nany norereal e-state offices were going to want to be on the ground iloor if one wasallorved at this tinc? Peter repeated that t.h js ma] I was designcd for an interesting commercial ,shop-oriented atnosphere, sinilal to corunercial cores I and z, designed iorhigh traffic and was planned to be a prime rnall as stated i'the meno.Jacobson said that thc dcveloper had designated business or professional usefor that spot and for another spot also. tie addecl that tlidre were no rearestate offices in thc C::ossroads area, lle felt that thr: environment shouldbe looked at each tinre, and did'rt feel thcy were setting a prccedent. rjc -s- L0/12/81 Dan nent.ioned tha t lre had jlr:;t comc fron a rrircati.on in Dulrngo and as he ri'a l kcd th:'ough thc tcrwn, djclnrt I ikc all tl'Lc lcirl cstatc officcs on the nnin stl'cct, rLnd that they were not lookirrg for rea I cst-ate of f i.cers. lric Blrcluruen fel1:that if Dan had beeri' f rom lta I I as., pclhrrl: s , they, ur ight lravc be en looking fol'real estate office:;. lle added that they intended to have the office veryattractive with lots of models. Jim suggested liniting the number of real estate offices in that na11. Gerry relrlied that there would be no way to ljntit othcr realtors fron asking for conclit j"onal uscs. D.ick Ryan rnentioned that peopl.e had talked to hirn about changi.ng the f ir-st fl-oor of the Kiandra to real estate offices. Jim wonderecl about using a deed restriction. }{ill Trout wanted to know what percentage of thc area thq 1s.1 estate office ir'ould be taking. Scott saw no differencc if Gore llange propertj.es asked to be in that building than in the mug shop area. Jin Nlorgan fclt that naybehorizontal zoning should be talked about with the rvhole area in rnind, Jim Jacobson suggcsted looklng at having only one real estate office in thebuilding with a non-conpeting lcase in tl're deed restriction. Dan reminded him that they couldntt get around the parking ancl traffic. Jacobson wantedto see studies -showing that it would j-ndced generate traffic, Gerry feltthat the parking was not the issue, for if there i!'a s any parking at a11., people would use it. Rogcr felt that there were many unanswerecl questions. scott and Duane felt that if there were already 42 spaces short, what the elorral n*^- hr'+ ;- +L^uvvvrupEl. puL -Lrr rrre spaccs would have nothing to do with the fact thatthere were already too fcw parking spaces. Roger stated that he would voteagainst the project now, but with rnore infornation might vote for it. Jaco}:son asked if the only additional information needed was with regard toparking and deed restrictions, and asked also for a pol1 of opinion irom the rnembers. Jin stated that if the applicant could come back with a deecl restr-iction and eirse his concern of the parking, he rnight vote i-n favor. Duane felt that he did not want the applicant to show a deed restriction. Dan felt that what was needed wasparking and he was concerned with Geny felt he would vote no now, horv nany real estatc officcs wcre WilI would like to see a real estate Scott was in favor of the real estate Rogcr was concerned about the parking Jacolrson asked to table ti11 the next7-0 in favor of tabling. a clarification of restrictions concerning traffic. because who knerrr the rnagic nurnber of too nany ? office there with a lease agrcement. of f ice rr'ithout a 1ease. program for the whoic progran. regular neeting. The mernbers voted f-e to/Lz/Br fl:-_*!tr:-t1t-il-1_ for.r_t.rt -arnendment to thc 'l'ot,rr of_-Va_ii__iqljlltl -Otdinanc:c No. 30 Scirir:i""oT itiT;i;:ili,l-.,;t;;nffa.\f c-$;t c'ri l;i o,- liii,.'li 7,- t otalo p"atcli. Appl icant : Vn i I lnvcstrncnt and I)crrc.l opr cnt , Ltrd. Pcter Patten expl;rincd and listcd thc rcstl'lcti.ons j.n thc ncmo, Craig Sitol,don, atchitcct for the applica.nt, statcd that thc appl j.cant rgreed to the rcstrj.ctions ard addcrl that thc:sc would be luxury un-its with a -.;inglc access onto the Potato l)atclr Dr]ve. Peter st-ated tha't. he had received a l etter f ::oin John Hal I st:rting that lrc approved the reqricst.. Craig crxpiained tire access fr:on Potato Pntch Drj.r'c irnd also the vi.sabil ity. Gcrry stre.s-scd that the totill al lolvablc CRFA wouldntt bc excceded. Ile rvas concer:ncd rr'ith the growing necd for employee housing. Jim Shcehan stated the plan was to incorporate thc employee unit with the cabana near the pool, Roger ntoved and l{ i 11 scconded to recoirrfi}end to Town Council approval of the amendnent nith the conditions of anploval listed bv staff, Thc vote was 7=0 in favor, unanirnous. 7. Request for exterior alteration and moCification to the Casino ilount oT ofrte ib-acE on acct<. Bui 1d j-ng App I icants : Carlos Agostoni and Janes J, Sprowls. Rick Baldwin of P-ierc eBa I dirr j.n Associate-s, architects for the project stated that Dick Ryan reconmended they eone before the PEC that day. Dick Ryan said that the Council had approvcd thc Casino request with cha.nges, and that l'lr-s, Hill had sent a Letter -shorving no real obj ection with the extension to the ltrest. Rick added that the bridge was a dead issue at present-- that other external factors had forced this decision. Ilick felt that the PEC rnust concentTate on the issue. follorved concerned liking the proposal , The discussion which Dan moved and Rogcr seconded to approve the exterior alteration of the deck area. The vote was 7.0 unaninousll, in favor. The nceting was adjourned at 5:40. € PI,ANN}NG ANI) Monday, ENVII{Oi\I}4LN]'AL October 12, 3:00 p.n. 1. ') Approval of Request for on unit #304 Requcst for to linit the minutes of September 28, 1981. density control varianc e of the \rorlaufer. R,ll. a conditional use perrnit student body of the Vai and the A Request for a variance from side and at 1763 Shasta, Iot 12, Vail Village Gottfried Anglcitner. Requcst for a conditonal use permit in space #7 of the Vail Village Inn, Van Ewing, III. Itequest for an a.nendment to the Towr 30, series of 7977, to add the allow on Lot 6, Block 2, Potato Patch. Derrcl nnrnron+ T f .l 7.Request for exterior alteration for the deck arca to determineApplicant: Car.l o s Agostoni and Publislred C0r'f'lISSION 1981 to extend Pickens. existing loft area i-n order lift the restriction ivlountain School. fron t setbacks for a res idence Filing {f2. Applicant: have a real estate office hase III. Apnlicant: P. f Vail Zoning Ordinance No. cc of one emplo;'ee unit, icant: Vail Investment and Jane ification to t of office J. Sprowls. the Casino Build:irig cnncp nn .l a.- k in thc Vai Tnril Octobcr 9, 1981, To: Vail Town Council- October Gentlemen: The undersigned represent ownership ofhalf interest in unit 5. 6, 1981 units +2,3,4 and one With reference to the prooosed renovation of Bridoe Strcet Condominium Building by Gata Mora, Ltd. We wish to notify the Town Council of our consent to the renovation, also our consenL to the revision of the condominium common elements and our consent to the utilization by Gata Mora, Ltd. of the amount of GRFA contemolated by the plans which have beer{ submitted to the council-. Sincere Iy, 1 Estate, Inc. By: Condomi-nium The Valley unit *2 For Condominium unit #5 1,.\ti.} r.rc^ l-.^\ ,^>By: Helcrd Pulis Condominium unit #3 Gartorr{s Saloon D,**-.&^1"- By: Dave Garton VAlI unit e +5 Condominium unit CotteY, owner half interest in t IProject Applicatlon Prolect Name: Project Description: Contact Person and Phone Legal Description: Lot Archilect, Address and Phone: , zon" ((T Comments: ilotion by: Seconded by: Design Review Board // ,^," i'o/z//K/ DISAPPROVALAPPROVAL SWtr ,fo w ,EilSuetva ffsu,V /f M#fLll 7faftra+eyr E sraff A'pproval ( f _A 7rt2n lflh{ LU/IL Ez f 'lESfpW. ti.Fdrtr rylvrrl ,: t!lo inc.pierco. bolduuin ond cssociotes orchitoctur,a . plonning Octcfrer 2, 1981 Mr. SLe\E Palnrson Tcn,n of Vai-l Buj.lding Inqrcctor 75 Sourth Fr:ontaqe Road,tlest Vaj.1, Co, 81657 CA,SI}M BUil,DI}IG REIDDEL OSIFIFI4ATICN OT' UMTING DISCTJIiSICI,I fie-lr Ste,ve, We aF,Frecjat$d ttre o.rportunity to disctrss this project with youyesterday ror:ning. To insure that everyone involved fully unrlerstands tJrc decisions ancl agreatents reacfied at that neeurrt, we are proddfug the follorrirq jnforrnatior.r. If you are inaqresrent wit$ the infornration noted, please siqn trre encl0sed m12y of ttrj_s letter and retunr it to us. MFNTING IiICfIE.S: v.. lle=tj-ng held at 9:00 AM on Cbtober l, tgg1 in the offj_ce of- l':. Dick Ryan in ttre VaiI |4uricirnl Buildirry. Inatterdane were: Mr. Dick Ryan, Mr. peter patten, t{r. .St-grc Patterson repr:esentjlg the trorun of Vaill t{r. Dc,n Grlgan representing the Olner, Gata llcra, Ltd; !{r. Horst K.etrJs representing Ltre Alperrbar:s Builders, tlre ContractoriW. G3rdon Pierce, .i!{r. Rick Baldrvin arxt i{r. @er Bookerre-p::esenting the Arclritect, pier<=, Bald\,rin C Associates,Inc. . B. ne.r-i,sicns,zbiscussions,/@reelents 1, i\'rsolutely no furtlrer w>rk nr.ey be perforneri on theexterior of the buildilq e)rccpt to instatl a tsrporaqt'\vinter season fac.lde', desiqned by the ArctLitect and apprcnred by the Design Revievu Board, 2. 'ltash on the second floor of the building m:.st be trans-ported inside the buildinq and not tlrrcrm frun openingsjrt the ercterior i'ralls of the buildinq. uP^ ^//ry 1000 sourh ftenroga rood ruasr . vorl, colorodo 81657 ns/476-4433 (Xtober 2, 1981 Page 2 3. DeJcris must be kept withjl tire fenced area. After srfficient trash has been rgqc\€d frcrn thls area (possiJrl.y by ttr) end of Oqtober 1, l98l-) the Con- tractor nnrst park his tnrks inside this fenoed area. 4. A on*-hcmr enclosure mlst be provided at ttre wa1ls and ceilinq of the existing boiler rmn. The rocrn nnrst be vented to ner::t local codes. 5. The winter seasc)ll facade should include scfte sort of dispiay wirxl:r^rs if at all possible. 6. A wallsr'ray nrust be provided for pedestrians where theexistjlq sidelraUr has been dennrlished. 7. All work rnrst tre ccrpleted by fncefuer t. Ch DeoiltberI the ocnstructi.on fence rcust hre rgrcrrcd. fhe al:cnre inf-brmation is our interpretation of the results of ttrenxtting. If there are any arr'os iir wtrictr roe have not aceuratelyor ccnq:letely reJ.ated infor:rurtion, please acfuise us irnrediately so ttrat rve nay cicrregt our reord-q. Date: cc: AL1 part-iciflanLs . -'-'BrERcE, l*o#$"ll:;gg5l'" 1000 S. Frontage Road West vAtL, coLoRADO 81657 O TO -/- ^ ,l - /7/fW- r'/ Ua,_-.<-. (303) 4764433 LETU @F T'RANSNflITTAL ! Plans ! Samples the following items: E Specifications WE ARE SENDING YOU Xrached E Under separate cover via ! Shop drawings ** of retter n Prints ! Change order ! THESE ARE TRANSMITTED as checked betow: D For approval >E(q your use [1 As requested I Approved as submitted tr Approvod as noted fl Returned for corrections n Resubmit-copies for approval tr Submit -copies for distribution E Return -corrected prints ! For review and comment tr ! FOR BIDS DUE 19- tr PRINTS RETURNED AFTER LOAN TO US REMARKS COPY TO SIGNED: PnoDtcrz{oJ /@tE Gr&i, rE 0[s0 ,t encloaoraa ta6 not a! noted, kindl!! ngtityt ut at ,b",f l2tcL Ry*" pie,rca. boldwin ond ossociotos, inc. orchrtecturo . plonnirrg Octcber 2, I9Bl l.lr. Steve Pattersst $q.rn of Vail Btlilding InslEctor 75 South Flontage Rd., W.Vail, Co. 81657 EASIM) BTIIIDING RE!DDE[, Ctt{FIF!4AfIcN Or OCTOBER J., I9Bl I'tmfllJ(1, DTSCUSSTOI ard S:IJPSEQIIIX{I ocIOBm. 2, 1981 TET,EPr€NE OCInERSAII'TCN Dear Steve, I€ aFpreciated the opportunity to discuss this project with you at yester:day's rEeting and this nrrrning cn the telephone. Tk: ilsuletlat everyone irryolved fully r-n<ierstanos the decj-sions anrl ag'ri=- nents reached at t-tnt meeting and the additional recnrjrermnts of the ltcr,,rn of Vail as di::ect€d by the Buildinq Insnectorrs office during the teleptrone mnr.retration with ou"r: office this norning,rre're p:rovidi-ng the follcr.ring inforrnation. If ycnr are in agreerr.Errt w:lth the inf.orrnation noted bercnr, please sign tJre enclosed c.op41 ofttris letter and return ib to our office. UEHITIIG l{013s l4eeting held at 9:00am on October 1, 1981- in the office of Mr. Dick \an jn the Vail lr'lunicipat Builcli.ng. In attendatrce vere;llr. Dick &'ian, !tr. Peter Patten, l4r. Stare patterson reoresorting the IU,^/n of Vail; l4r. Don GalEan rep'resenting the O.rnt:r, Gatatlbda, Ltd.t !tr. brst frebc reg.:rpaen€lrrg the ALpenhax Rrilders;t}le Oontractori ltr. Gordsr Piencir, l,lr. Rl.ci< Bal&,rln ard Mr.rcger Booker rqgeeenting the Ar.clritec.t, Pieroe, Baldhrin &Associates, Inc. . Itecisions, Discussions & Agresftents 1, Absolutely r:o fttrttrer roork rnay be nerforrned. on thr: exteriorof the buildirg e)<cept to instatt i te,,po"ar1' '\uinter season facade"designed by the Arehitect and approv'ecl bV the Design Rgriss Bocard. lls clarified by you this rnorningr on Lhe tele.,. phcne, the rvinter f-acade clesign nnrst he ,sutrnr.tted to Ute nextregularly scheduled npetlnq of the Design P,evie,rv lbar:d on october 21. 'Itr-is requires that. our office sribmit the design and applicalion to be placed on the (Jcto}:er ll1 agenda by 4130 P.M. on lr4cnday, Octcber 5. B. 1000 south frontoga rood u-re;sr . voil, colorodo 81657 $3/416 4433 Octcber 2, 1981 PaEe 2 2. Trash on the seorxl floor of the buildhs nnrst be trans-portd insjde the buildinq and not, thrc*/n frcrn operringsin the exteuior walls of the building. 3. Debris nust be kept wittrin the fenced area Af-ter sufficient trash has been rsttcved f-rcm this area (Snssiloly by the endof October 1, 1981) the Contractor: mrst park his trucks inside thejr fenced area. 4. A one-hour enclosure mrst be prcn'ided at tlre walls and oeiling of the el<istirtg tniler roon. Ihe nqln nust be vented to neet locaL aodes- 5. Ihe wilter season facade sln.rld incltrde sotre sort of display win&os if at. all possible. 6. A wal)srray rnrst be provided for pedestriarus where the o<isLing sidryalk has been dsnrlished. 7. A11 raprk mlst be wrpleted by Decanben 1. On Decgnber 1 ttre mnstruetion fence rnrst be r.qrovecl. 8. As directed by your office during our teleffiore corlersation thj.s norning, the Contractor m.rst provide a perforrna,rce Bond.Ihe rrequirerents of the Bcrnd are to irrclude:a. The winter facade ard related r,ork totally finished by Decsrber 1, 1981.b. The qrnstruction anount stnlt be stipulabed as 9101000. lhe above infornntion is our interryretation of the resul!: of the neetirg.rf there are any areas in wtr-iclr we have not accuratery or corpreteryrelated iafornatiqr, please adrrise us jnnediatery so tlr,at v,re rluy correctour reords. Sincerely, , Baldtrrin & Associates, Inc. Rts:de ,/*6,.,-, cc: All partsicipants - PTER'E' lliP,Ull"#if,9tlnt'- 1000 S. Frontage Road West vAtL, coLoRADO 81657 - WE ARE SEND|NG ,ou >(nu.hed D Under separare cover via LETGI 0F TRANSmflTT'T'AL Plans tr Samples E Specilications TO tr Shop drawings fu, of letter fl Prints [J Change order tr tr COPIES DATE NO.OESCRIPTION ,'l ,r' 20cqr t pBf f t 7l/./ THESE ARE TRANSMITTED as checked below: E For approval )( For Jour use / a e, requestecl E For review and comment tr Approved as submitted ! Approved as noted E Returned for corrections Resubmit-copies for approval Submit -copies for distribution Return -corrected prints tr ! tr n D FOR BIDS DUE 19- tr PRINTS RETURNED AFTER LoAN To Us REMARKS COPY TO SIGNED: Pioouct2403 /@ rE, Grbi. {s olrSo ,t encrosu.es €re not as noted, kindly notiry us pi@rc@. boldwin ond ossocio[es, inc. orchitaclure . plonnrng Octder 2, 1981 I.r. Peter Jana.r Tcnn Plarner lbm of Vail 75 Solrtll niontage Road, tdestVail, Oolorado 81657 CASNO BUTT.NING RE!ODE[, @{FTRffrICN Or OCTGER 2, 1981 IE[.',PHC[M @NVMSATICN Drring a telephone mnr,ersationr withr I'b-. Rick Batd$rin of Fierce, Bal&/in & Associates, rnc. today, your office tras agrerd to allcxr tie sutxnjttatof ttre winter seAeon facade design for: the casixo Building Rgrpder to besuhritted after Octcber 5, but rpt late.rr tl.an trc days prior to tlreoctobs 21st Desigm Revisu Board neeti.ng. Ttris is due to tlre fact. urat GRFA wil"l not be rerziered, code revier+ will be relatively ninor, and docwents will be dealing with a relatively snall porticrn of thebuilding. Application nnrst be nade no later tlr,an tbnday Octcber 5 sotlnt th-is subniLtal can be placed on the October 21 agorda for the Design kviehr Board. lF appreciate ttte oootrnration of yrur office on ttris pn:jtrt. ltre fel.rextra days prwidecl wil.l certainly berrefit the project. iud enhance theefforts to leave the building in a nore attraqtirre statt: for the public during tlre winter seasorr. c- Baldrin & Associatfs, Inc. RB:de oc: Diclr $an, Steve PaLer.son, Peter patten - Itrlrn of \ra:i_l Don Galgan - Gata l6ra, Ltd. Ilorst Itebs - Alpenhaus edLders Sinerely, 1000 sc,uth fiontoq@ rood ue,-,t . 'roil, colorodo ei657 n3/416,+433 | 3 EL' 7.++o' ^ pierco. bolduin ond ossoci,:tos, inc. orchitecture . plonning October 2, l98t tt. Steve Patterssr llcnn of VaiI Buildbrg Inspector 75 Scnt}r !)ontage Rd., IiI.VaiL, Co. 81657 CASIM) zuITDING RElmEt cNFrF[t4arrfiil oF ocrEtsER l, l9B]. t'tEEtnlcf DrscttssrcN and srJpsEfiimffoelCIBm 2, 1gB1 IELEPH:NE CSfi/ERSATT(N Dear Steve, lfe appreciated ttre opporturrity to disorss this project w:Lth you atlrcsterdayrs nnreEirq ancl this norning on the tetephone, To insuretlnt erzeryone irworveo f"ur.ry unars-lanL the drcisions an.J agree-ilEnts read*d au that-nreetirlg and ttre a<tditionar r*r,trn*t" "rthe ltqrn of Vail as dirested-by the au-rlding r*p""t"J" Jiri..during the teLer*rone oorver,-sation w"ith o'r officl this rr:rning,w9're providing ttre folrcr,rinq-i"f";ti;. rf yo.r are in agreerr''t.w"itir the inforrnation nctd belo,p, pro*" .ig"-d;-#ir#o-coEg c,rttris letter and return _i.t to our'o?fice. IIEIIIIG NCTIES A' l{eetirs held;rt 9:00am on c.lc*Lrfier 1, r-9g1 in the office of r4r.Dick \.van in the vair ,r{uniciprr euiiding. -in utda"r* or*.,l{r. Dich Ryan, r{r. peter patten, }4r. sterre patbefson renrresentinqthe 1tcnrn of V-ail;, D4r, Don C"alt-.pn representing ttre Or^nrer, Catalrbra, Ltd.r.I4r. Ibrst l(r_ebs rill)resentlq tfte Alpertrarrs Bgilders,the Contrastor., ptr. rkxrCon fic,rcre, Mr, Rick Bal<i,dn aru] r.1r.rbqer Bookex 'qresentirg the Architect, pi;;; eofdurin oAssoeiates, Inc.. --> B. *risior:s, Discussions & Agr€{,rlEnts & Absolutelv no furttrer r,prr< rnav be perfornal on the exteriorof the b,uitding e><cept to inslaU I terlcorary ,\.rinte:: seasrTlfaeade"desisftd by tire nrch-itect "nd ;r;;i bv the DesicrnRevis.r Board. As clarifie(l htf ycrr this'rronrinq-on the tele-prhone, the wjlten faeade ctesid nrust be ",rl_*iit a tcr tl:e rs<tregularly_schr_duled nnetiirq oi ttre Design ;ru"i"" Boerd onffi,?l:.,Ti: requirer; that our offiqe *ut*:_t the d,esignand ap{cali<m to be pIa<.:ed on ttre O.t"f;-t agenOa n1r ail}p.M. on tibnday. October 6" 1000 south frontoga rood ute:r . voil, colorodc 81657 n3/4764433 lo o; Octder 2, 1981 Page 2 2. Trash on the seord flmr of the buildirrg ru:"st be trans-ported iruide ttre building arxl nct thrcrm frcm otrnningsin the ercterior walls of tne bril.dirq, 3. Debris nnrst be kept within ttre fenced area Mter sufficierrt,trash has been rsmrred frqn this ar"ea (poesibly by the endof October I, lggL) the Contractor mrsLpar:k fris trua<sinside their fenaed area. 4. A cme-hour enclosure m'.ut be prcxrided at the walls arulceiling of the e:ristirq boiler rncrn. The rrcrm nust bevented to neet local codes, 5. lhe wirter sea.Cnr facade should incrnde scrE sort of di-splay windcr,rs if at all possi-ble. 5. A wallsuay nrust be prroridecl for pede.strian^li vuhere ttre existingsidevalk has been dgrplished. 7. ALr vprk nust be oorpreted by Decenrcer r. on Decsdaer l theoonstnreti.on f'enc€ mrst be rermved. - 8. As directed by your office dr:ring orrr telephtrne conversationthis norruing, the contractor rnrst provide i perforaanrce Bond.The reguirernents of the Bond are io include:a. The winter facade and .related r.vork totalry finisrred byDecgnlcer I, l9BI.b. The construction artrunt shall be stipulafed as $-10,000" the above informatiorr i: "q,_interpretation of ttre rrezults of the neeting.rf-there.are any areas in whictr wshave not accuratery or ocnpreteryrelated inforrnation, please advise us innediatery so tr,"i "u nny (:orrectour reaords. Sincerely, BaLd,rin & Associates, Inc. Rts:de €: A11 pa.rLicipants l-oo l3 piorca. boldwin r:nd ossociotas, inc. orchitaclura . plonninq October 2, 19Bl l4r. Peter Janar Tcwn Plannen Tcr^rn of Vail 75 South llrontage Road, WestVail, Oolorado 81657 CASI}IO BUII.DI}C REI,DDEL @NFIF!4iltICht OF oelGm. 2, 1981 IELEPEICh{E ffi'lVERSAtrCtJ Drrhg a teleptrore oonver:sation with ur:. Rick Baldrrin of pierce, Baldvrirt & Ass(riates, rnc. today, your officel tr,as agrer$ to allcry the subrnittalof the winter season facadn rtresign for: tlle casinD Buikiirqr Rsrode-l to be$tsnitted after October 5, but rpt lat(.y than Llro days prior to the october 21st Design Revisrr Boa:rt nnetirq. Ttris is due uo the facr that GRFA wiIL not be revier^red, rcde revier^r wilt be relatively miror, and docunents will be dealing wiLh a relatively anrall portion of ttrebuilding. Application nnrst be nade rrc 1ater th,an tbnday October 5 sotiat ttr"is sulxniLtar can be plaaed on t}e octcber 2l agarcla for th: Design Rsriq,r Board. lE ap5:reciate the cooperation of lour office orr this pan:jt=t, TLre fer,.rertra days providerl will cerEainly benefit ttre project iu[1 enhance theefforts to leave the buiJ-ding in a rore attraqL.irre statr: ,for the public during thre winter season. /l*/^- ker , Baldt,rjx & Associat€s, Inc. FB:deoc! Dick \an, Steve Paterson, peter patten * Ilci,m of \ra-t'-l Don Galgan - Gata Mora, Ltd.Ilorst l(rebB - Alper*Eus Builders Sincerely, 'er ]000 south frontoge rood wclst . '.rcril, colorodo 8,1657 n3/4164413 bcx 100 vail, colorado 81657 (303) 476-s613 department of community development Septenber 30, 1981 Mr. Don Galgan Byron Brown Real Estate Box 547 Vail, Colorado 81658 Re: Remodel of Casino Building Dear l)on: As you know, before you can go to Town Council to a public hearing on the Casino building, the following information is needed:, I, Written perrnission by the condominium association to occupy the colTunon space and the ability to use the gross residential floor area for the entire site, (permission to do the removations) A copy of the condo declarations for our attorney to review, A plan for the alley regarding the covelr or no cover, your recolr- nended solution, and naintenance agreement. 2. 5. If this is not presented to roe by l4onday afternoon for our review and cornrnent, it will be difficult to have adequate time to determineif the Casino building can go to Tor.n Council at a public hearing Tuesday evening. r cannot let this go to Town council until these issues are resolved.rf there is no resolution soon, r will require that dernolition stopand the building be brought back to an acceptable outside facadeto be determi.ned by the Community Development Departrnent and theDesign Review Board. Sincerely,ktu Community Developnent Director DR:bpr utlo,*, HNrrrr$n-!1rNT.AL coirqrsra I Monday, September 28, l98l 2:00. prri ?iork Session to discu-ss variance proccdure and r:eview by Ir[C, 3:oo pm l. Rcquest for a rear setback variance and for a vari,;urc.e from a watercourse for lot 1, reSub of 1ot 14, block 4,Applicant: Heritagc Company. ?. 3. Request for a front setback va::i-ance for 1ot S., resub of lot 14, Bighorn3rd. Applicant: Ileritage Company Request to vacate a lot Linc between parcel.s 4 and 5, sundial phase r,part of an unplattcd parcel in Bighorn subdivision. Applicant: Benchmark Honcs of Col orado . 4. Request for a side and rear setback variance for lot 2, Cliffside Subdivision,part of Lion's Ri.dge Filing No. 2. Appl!.cant: David L, Cote, for a setback Bighorn 5rd. the Casino Building space on deck. Ta'L|"4 q 6, Request f oSt4xter ior alteration and modification tofor the-deck ar-ea to determine the anount of officeApplicants: Carlos Agostoni and James J. Sp::owls. Request to anend the Parking (P) Di-strJ,ct to permit by conditional usepublic uses that are transportation, touri.st ol town related and accessory type lrses. In addjtion, to arnend the Public Use District (PUD) to permit by conditional use, public uses, office and conurercial uses that are transportat j-on and touf ist related and dwelii-ng or dormitory type Linitsfor enployees of the Town or special district. . 8. Request to arnend the non-conforming section of the zoning code to pernit restoration of 1egal non-conforning structures that are destroyed by fire or other calamity or by an act of God. Applicant: Toun of Vail. Request to anend the official zoning rnap of the Town of vail in accordancet^rith section 18 of the Town of vail Muni.cipar code as forr"ows: (Each of the following properties belong to the Towrr of Vai1.) a. change the ski ltusiurn, lot 6, vail vilrage 2nd Filing from public Acconunodation (pA) to public Use (pUL.l) Dj.strict. b. Change lot 10, Bighorn Subdivision from Trvo Farnily Residenti.al {R)to Gr.een Belt and Open Space (GBoS) Distr-ict. c. change Tract H. vail virrage l-st Filing frorn High Density MultipleFanily (HDirtF) to public Use (pUD) Distrj.ct. d. Changc lot 28, L.i.onsridge Filing S frorn prinary,/Sccondary Res identj.al(P/S) to I'ublic Use (pilD) District. I. C' al -r Changc lot 40, llul'f er Crcck Subdi vi si,on f rom Corunercial Cor:e T I I (CCiII) to PubIic Use (PUD) [Jistrict. Change lot 10, \tail Village 2nd Flling fron Tvro l:amily Residential (R) to I,ubl ic Usc (PUD) ljistrict. Change lot 3, Rcsub of lot 1, block 1, Vail Lionshcaci 2nd Filingfron lJigh Densi.ty Muiti-Fanily (HDilF) to Public Use (I,UD] Disrr_tcr. h. change Tract E, vail Lionshead lst Iriling fron cornrnerci-al core IT(CCII) to Public Use District {put}). 1. Changc Donovan Park, a parcel of lancl located in thc NE f/4 of theSll I/4, and the NIV f/4 of the SW 1/4, Section 12 Township S Sourh, Range 81 l\est of tire 6tli p,l{,, Town of Vail, State of Colorado,fron Residential Cluster (RC) and primary/Secondary Residential(P/S) to public Use (pUD) District. Change King Arthurrs Court, a parcel of land situated j.n the SE 1/4of Section 12, Tor.tnship 55, Range 80 West of the 6th p.M., Town ofVail , state of colorado fron Low Density I'hrlti-Fani,ly (LD[[F) to public Use (PUD) District. Parcel B of the Annexation plat of Forest sen'ice property, annexedby Ordinance lf7, I9B0 as recorded i' Book S0Z, page S!2, -eagfe Courltyrecords from Green Belt and Open Space (GBOS) to Agriculture and Open Space (A) District. change Glen Lyon stream Tract, a parcel of land locatcd in a portionof the N 1/2, Nl{ i/4 of Secrion 12, Tor'.nship 55, Range gl lVest ofthe 6th P. M., Torr,n of Vai1, County of Eag1e, State of Colorado fronSpecial Developmcnt District (SUD) to public Use District (PUDJ. change Pitkin c'eek Tract, a parcel of 1and lying within section11, Township 5 South, Range 80 lttest of the 6tir p.i{., Town of Vail,Eagle County, containing 19,566.40 square feet of 0.449 acres nroreor less fron Special Development District (SDD) to public Use (pUDJDistrict. i". k, m Publ i shctl in thc Vail Tra.i l Sc-ptcmbcr 25, l ggl ero om 9lo*n I ,.lf:L j:.ri ./:.. : :, _ .t t\ii i ) i ) .1:Oi,.t; VAIL, COLORADO A1657 TELEPHONE 3O3 476-5655 September 28, 'l9Bl Town Council Town of VrilP.0. Box .l00 Vril, Colo. 8t658 RE: Ces i no Bl dg. Remode'l'ling Deer l'layor Slifer rnd Council Members: Plrzr Lodge hrs every rerson to believec0operrtton 0f the mrjorlty owners of CrsinoJoint'ly approved mrstir ptin; ;h; trrsh_pii rcan be converted to r srie ana plersrnt wrlkwour businesses on the west side'of our buildigenerrting more rct.i vity on l,lr.l I Street rnd iiret. However, es {g sald in our.ppeel relative to the pro_,posed Te'leen building, we c.nnot lpp"ove the issulnce of rnybuilding permit uv !tle lown of vrii'ro" .onitrriiion on ori!9ue pr0perty of ry!ich ttre owneiihip, optioni -ir'ersements rre not cl errly defi ned. thrt " wi th theBuilding rnd a 11ey between usaI, enl iveningngs, rs well asn the new prrk l,le wou'l d no t cr re toVillege rnd would resistbuilding for insurance rssons. se'l I the first',rir rights,,in Vrilhrving any structure rppended to ourwel'l as prrcticrl aed iesthetjc rer- 0n the first count, I bel ieve th.t mitters of propertylines, rccess rnd_options,riit be quictity ;;;;iuid o"rweencrsino end PIaza Buiiaings.s neitte" of us wourd c.re to com-promise. oul joint projeci for riley tmi"ove*eiii-ouu" r discre-pency whlch can best be described in iicr.,ei:- -- - As a prrcticr'l end aesthetic mrtter, i I I uminrtion of theal iey seems to me- lr sipii;:;_ i;;.rtrnce by dry and by nisht.It is for th.t rerson thet I r ika ttre ;tre'enrtoi,s"; rendition in the very center. . . of the center of things a & ',-(llo aoa Page 2 of the Gordon Plerce ider for pistrchio's entry. Apart frombrightening the alley by night with e flood of light from theinterior it will {ori-ble the epparent size of the 6ntry to thewel kwry becruse of i ts see thi"bugh qual i ty. Fur.ihermoie, i twi'l'l tend to reduce the lenght oi a rrther drrb plrze auitoing. where the matter of the vlew from copper Bar's northwest.alley window Js concerned,,lohn Donovan his rejected a new leasefrom PIrza for that_sprce, beginning November i, lggl . In allprobabjjitv that wiir become ihop sFrce.nd a more imple.naattrrctive.dispiay window rt thet locetion wouia ioa furtherJtgn! and interest to the walkway. It would rlso rdd more lightto the shop's interror. . In.my opinion, tfter l4 yerrs ofliving in the Plrza Building, ceiiingetrocious resthetic as wel l -js prrctidjffigyl!, dalgerous rnd expensive toshove I I ed or fr'l i en snow from the grotimes so from an upper deck op rooi.Iife of rny mrteritl coverinq'-with whsudden death to heat plrtes ind trpestunnel mry fit the Urbrn Desiqn plinnot rttrched to the p'laze Bui idi nq I ownership the wr I kwcal mistak remove thund, it is Hecki ng iich I rma. A gloom but not Va of en roo f- rnd 7 yerrs ay would bee. If it ise resu'lts ofat least te ce shortens cqual nted eny snow-coveril Village - n thed is ed rnd 11._r r_Let,me gmphlsize rgrin thrt my ,'view point,' is from thetrIlo9e 5treet.entrance to the wrlkwry, not from windows on the :l::I:-pl9u.i.gjls thrt interigl.tight is not diminished. My mainc0ncern ls with elsy and inviting trrffic flow to wrll striet rnd ?::-l::^Vii]:s:, Plrzr, not with ilhich.portion oi-rown property maylnrr'lnge upon the present terrrce of copper Bar in achieving itris-purp0se. It remains my conviction thatVi1l'age is also gbod for me .nJ,y t,le think the present.plrn for the Crsino gujjding r vastjmprgvement over the originrl stiucture, n0t on'ry aesItretii"ity,but,because the erectricii system wiir -6. uroii,i'up to code; therewill be no commercirl kitchens and the abs.n.6 or barton,srnay iiiowour hotel to open in summer with absence of fierce noise poli"rti.rlThe grrbrge-problem.in the ailey shourd rrso be rnae. coni,ror, ii"-not jnstrntly solved il, of course, belr the costhope, et some future date, to -sty1e) in harmony with TownI aza. what is good for trrde in Vaijtenants, PJrze wiproperty andyard" (grrden new Vi'll ege P of improvements on Plrzr I rndscape Donovan 's "bickplans for completion of our arr''-olo I rm sorry to be so long-winded, but feel I must be rbsoluteiyforthright rnd blunt. It will be r'long time (ir ever) before - the owners of these two Buildings mry cire to join tog6ther incivic -'improvement of thelr rdjoining- propertiei. The-successorto mrjority casino ownership wil'l bi vrrious ortners of condomtniums.My successor will be the Fiist Nrtionrl Benk in Drllrs, the TrustDepartment of which crn hrve neither knowledge nor interest in ouralley trash-pit. Page 3 writingfor snow soon as hrve been pol i ci ng I i rge core tr //41/ I wou'l d 'l ike to see the "clern-up,', for which Iso long, by next April rnd some tsiurrnce of Townand trrsh removrl as is usual elsewhere in the Vi I think ny Casino neighbors would appreciete that rlso esrs improvements are complete, Sincerely ,Jornne V. Hill President P'l aza Lodge, Inc. P1-anning arrd Environnrr:nta1 Commj.s;ion'lnt'.'n of Vai l. Se ptemlrer 28, 1981 Re: Proposcd remodel of that port ion c;f the Bri dge S'f reet Corrtlonri n i um knorvn as tro Lecl on attacheci floor plan" Gentlcmen: rn _orcler to responci properly to the requesl,s from ttre planrrirrg and llnvi ronmenter.l. and t.o obLain t hr--. necessa.r'y agreementg amongthe otlrer owners wj tlrln the building, rve request iltal ourappe:r"ance before you be delayed until the rneeting ofOctober 1-3 , 1981. Respectfu11y, T {..Iu t u .,_.--''7 Don- H. Galga Planning and Environmental Con.un,i.ssion Town of Vail September 28, 1981 Re: Proposed remodel of thatportion of the Bridge Street Condominium known as noted on attached floor p1an. Gentlemen: rn_order to respond properny to the requests from the planning and Environmental and to obtain the necessary agreements amongthe other owners within the building, we request that ourappearance before you be delayed until the meeting ofOctober 13, 1981. Respectfully, \l rF .,\l il r\ii\[l i\ \r( \\t\).J Town Council Town of Vail September 15, 1981 Re: Proposed remodel of thatportion of the Bridge Street Condominlum known as Gartons Saloon and the Bridge StreetInn, Gentlemen: In order to respond properly to the requests from the TownCouncil and to obtain the necessary agreements among theother owners within the building, we request that ourappearance before you be delayed until the meeting ofOctober 6, 1981. Respectfully, I PI,AI.INING PRESENT AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION Septenber 14, 1981 STAFF PRESENT Dick Ryan Peter Janar Peter Patten Betsy Rosolack Gerry White Dan Corcoranlfill Trout Duane Piper Jin Morgan COT'NCIL REP Ron Todd neeting was called to order at 3:00 p.n. by Gerry members had fi.rst gone out to two sites j.n Bighorn The fite White, the chairman. 3rd. Dan Corcoran corrected the ninutes to explain that iten #3, Ipanena, have read that the plat does show the coirect lines and that I condo t*ould be filed that week showing the1,5a11e, correct ines, Dan then rnoved and Duane seconded to approve the ninut.es nith the correctionsstated above. The vote was 4*0, lttill abstaining, ?. .Conliggqlion*of .rgquqst" for exter.ior al.t-eratioJr and jnodif_igrtion to theuaslno tsul-ld1ng for the deck area and to det.ernine the ahount of office located on lots D and E and a part of lots B, cn and F, Block 5c, vair village FirstFiling. Applicants: Carlos Agostoni and James J. Sprowls, The appl.icants asked to have this iten continued until the next regular neetingof PEC. Dan noved and Jiur seconded to conti.nue this per the appliantsr requesiuntil the next meeting. The vote was 5-0 in favor. :: -Re.?ue:! -tor,aconpitional use pennit, drroor J"n btudy Area f5 in new commercial and office space in Lionshead.Applicant: Robert T. Lazier. Dick Ryan presented the neno and reninded the connissioners that an officeon the 3rd floor in commercial core rI required the approval of a c.u. pernit.Jay Peterson explained that rnost of the office space lipproved at the listneeting) was on the 2nd floor. Jirn Morgan moved and Dan seconded to approvethe conditional use permit to allow office space on the 3rd floor. The votewas 5.0 in favor. should naP rroval of ninutes of August 31. -2- e/14/8r 1.- Regugst for a-front setback veriance grl lot s, tsIock l, Intermountains Peter Janar showed the site plan and explained the nemo. He stressed the factthat the setback variance r.rrourd arlow the saving of a 60r evergreen, wouldreduce cuts, and that it would result in no negitive inpacts, but in fact thepositive factors far outweighed the negative ones on th-is particular 10t. Byron Hoyle'explained that snow removal here was also a factor, and it wasinportant to get the cars off the roadn afid he added that the i"rti,""-u""[the cut, the greater the cut would have to be. He mentioned that trru ari""rruygrade would be greater also' Dicussion followed concerning trre possiuii;;; -' of using another design. some of the rnenbers felt that rnore study was neededby then and the staff on reasons for giving variances. Peter patten stated that a vari.ance *y lu granted with physical hardships,These could include saving rnajor trees, a..ir,"g. probleni,' rock outcroppings,and added- th-at to preserve these features it *y L" n"."rr".y to grant a varianceto accomplish this. He added that often in DRB people *"t" "n.or"aged tochange their designs to preserve certain features on the land. Discussion for r owed. concerning the possibirity -of turning the buirdi.ng atanother. angle, putting the garage underneath, detaching ihe garage, etc. Gemy felt that this-was a-good example of physical hardship. Jin felt thatthe site was buildable without having to grant a variance. peter p, listedexanples of variances that had been granted to save trees or because of streamsetbacks. He added that he felt that this particular plan was sensitivetb the site, and that, they- should appreciate the fact ihat propte are comingin with variances rather than forcini a structure on a lot. He felt thateach lot should be looked at on an individual basis and that there were noresteep lots left now, so there were probably going to be rnore requests forvariances to move houses into setback areas. Gerry felt that whenever a variance is considered, it should be consideredin the best interest of the Town of vail. Jim feit that the 10t had buildablearea without the variances. -The subject of putting only the garage in thesetback area lvas Fursued, and the "pili.*nt said he didnrt like the appearanceof the building tiat way. Gerry moved and Dan..:g9iq:d-to approve the front setback variance as statedin the staff neno of 9/g/gr ror tire reason that this was a topographicalhardship. The vote was 2 in favor (Gerry and Dan) and 3 opposed. The variancewas denied. Gerry reminded the rppii."ni that they h"a-ro'iuy, in which toappeal the decision to the Town Council. PEC PEc -rl}uut q/ty'/r ) 5, Request for a rear setback variance and stream setback Variance onffiffisffiApplicant: Heritage ConPanY. Peter Jarnar stated that the meinbers had vi-sited this site before the neeting and he explained the rnerno, pointing out that the staff recorunended denial . The staff-rs feeling was that, although variances may be needed to build on this 1ot, more investigation into designing the house to better fit the r. 1ot should be done, Dan rerninded then that one corner of the buildi-ng near the creek was at the Poi.nt where the bank was falling away. -John Nilsson, reptesenting the applicant, described the site p1an, stating that i-t would be a hazatd to back out onto the road, and that the lot was unusual in shape with lots of design problens. Comrnents fron the staff included rnoving the structure,, moving the two parts of the structure closer iogether, perhaps abolish the piazza, and reduci-ng the size of the structure. Will Trout showiag the site plan, stated that by movi-ng the structures together, the cars would have to back into the street, and part of the structure would be closer to the creek. Jirn Sayre of the staff stated that there was danger from flood on a great part of the lot. More conrnents fron the commission included concern for the steep bank, redcsigning the whole concept, opposition to variances granted to strean setbacks, reduci.ng the size of the project. -iy'ohn Nilsson stated that they would prefer to table at this point, rather than be denied the variances. Andy Haas fron the audience stated that he lived on the west side and was concerned for the river that uhe stream setback will further push the stream toward his house, He added that the previous developer of the area had destroyed it, chopped down trees, and destroye<i his view. Jim rnoved and Duare seconded to table this iten as requested by the applicant. The vote was 4-0 with Will abstaining. Gerry felt that perhaps a work session was needed about variances. Ron Todd rnentioned that at one time a neno had been done on the subject and he would try to dig it up. Roger Tilkerneier arrived, 6, - Request for a front setback variance for lot 5, Resubdivision of lot 14, Bighorn 3rd Addition. Applicant: Heritage Company. Peter Janar stated that the staff felt that there was anple room in thc building envelope for construction and that the staff felt that there was no physical hardship. This site had just been visited, too. Dave Irwin, Architect for the applicant showed the site Plan. lt was Pointedout that there nay be a discrepancy between the property boundarj cs on the mzip and the actual site, Dave went on, however, to describe the srte slrowing where it drops off and also showing trees he didn't want to disturb. Discussion following included decreasing the size of the units, whether or not this was the right house for the lot., :l Tl!*!(J: t- Discussion that followed included decreasingor not this was the right house for the lot, structure . Gerry reninded the menbers that a week frorn thatbe a work session with the Council at 1: S0 at the Ji-n noved and Dan seconded to table the request until the next reguLar meeting ls Per th_e applicant?s request. The vote was s in favor and I (DLnel againsi,ft was tabled to the next rneeting, Peter P. said that they would meet with the engineering departnent to discussissues such as revegetatj.on of scars, and whether ot ,,ot tire roads had beenaccepted as they now are, day (on 9/21/8I) there woulci RansHorn Lodge. Gerry rnoved and Dan seconded to adjourn. The neeting was adjourned at S:05 Psc -4- t the size of the units, whether the possibility of moving the Dave Irwin stated that he had studied the 1ot carefully and designed and redesignedto fit the Townrs requirements. Discussion of the danger of the swit,ch backfollowed. As for reduction in size, rrwin stated that the problen would beto be able to sell the tmits wi.th the costs.-it had to be aifordable to build.Gerry rerninded hin that financial hardship was not a consideration. Roger felt that the whode subdivision should be looked at. peter repeatedthat this iten was difficult to look at rurtil there was an accurate survey. Dave Irwin asked to table to the next neeting. Dan asked that there be stakesfor the garage corners, also. PI,AI.ININ6 A}.ID ENVIRONMENTAL Septetrer 14, 1981 3:00 P'M. COMMlSSION .*.\.' l. Approval of rninutes of August 51, 1981 2. Continuation of request for exterior alteration and modification to the casino Building for the deck area and to detemine the amount of office located on lots D and E and a part of lots B, C and F, Block 5C, Vail Village First Filing. APPlicants: Carlos Agostoni and James J, Sprowls. 31 Request for a conditional use floor in Study Area #5 in new Applicant: Robert T, Lazier 4. Request for a front setback variance on Lot 5, Block 1, Intermountain Subdivisi.on. Applicantl Byron Hoyle. 5. Request for a rear setback variance and a variance for setback fTom watercourse for lot 1, resubdivision of lot 14, block 4, Bighorn Srd addition. Applicant: Heritage Conpany, Dan Gagliardo. permit to allow office space on the third commercial and office space in Lionshead. 6. Request for a front setback 14, Bighorn Srd addition. variance for lot 5, Applicant: Heritage Resubdivision of lot Conpany. Published in the Vail Trail Septerntier 1l' 1981 lo Pianning & Environmental Commission Town of Vail- September 14, 1981 or Re: Proposed modj-fication ofthat portion of the Bridge Street Condominium Bullding as noted on attached floor plan. Gentlemen: The proposed modifcatj-ons ha.re not been properly approvedby the Bridge Street Condominium Association. lfe thereforerequest that further actj.on on this matter be tabled unt11your meeting of September 28, 1981. Respectfully, Gata.Mora, lr -t\\\ ljt/ t tI ,/ -/ | (( r,rf'tY \ tsr- ti''t i.// ll// tr{t{/t\-.J/ (\a Itvft{J,i\.eq: (L =- TGIORANDUM T0: Planning and Environmental Couunission FROM: Cornrunity Development Department DATE: Septernber 9, 1981 RE: Continuation of the public hearing for the request for an exterioralteration and nodification to the Casino Building for the deck areato determine the amount of office space on deck. Applicants: Carlos Agostoni and Jaures J. Sprowls. At the Planning and Environmental Connission meeting on August Sl , 1981the deck part of the request was continued to the Septernber 14 neeting. Concern was raised regarding the office expansion on the deck and the impact on views from the north window at Donovants Copper Bar. The Planni.ng and Environnental conmission should go ove" to Donovan\ and look out the window. The Staff considers there would be little or no irnpact by the proposed deck expansion and support s this part of the request ,f c/o Vince Dcnenico 286 Bridge Street Vai1, Colorado 81652 - ,7t i-r.t , rJ. ' , ,r +_t;tL_ r' 7/,/rr The Delicatessen c/o Obto Stork 288 East Bridge Street Vail , Colorado 81657 Rucksack Condcrninir-rr Association c/o (*riqui Clair 288 Bridge Street Vail, Colorado 81657 Be11 Torer Bullding c/o Clark Willingharn Hitch Erterprises 13OO Bryan Tcrver Da11as, Texas 752OL Plaza Building c/o trfrs. Hill 291 Bridge Street Vail , Colorado 87657 Gasthof Grarmhanmer c/o Pepi Grarmhanrner 231 East Gore Creek llrive Vai1, Colorado 81657 SE C.orner Bridge Street & Gore C?eek Drive tr)(0ftl-^'',f <47 / /ffiL4@/- A It ,i ,o l-71VC LU E-.d'( // ' ' ," .l' iu, rc- l)' " l(A a ^' ,4ov >f (P lSox 6L1 l,/ "..-.' the Bridge Street Condominiun Association 285 Bridge StreetVail, Colorado 87657 Creekside Condoniniun Association C^uJ,.- .-"'- $-4 j, 386 Hanson Ranclr Road Po rj-a 1gz-f '/. P, f"- Jr:' 7t z-* - , ,/(,. /Vai1, Colorado 81657 C ,, gg(. /,.t,-1- Ka,-/L /r-/ Vail Associates P.O. Box 7Vail, Colorado 81657 The Clock lbuer Bullding c/o John McBride 105 Paciflc Ave. Aspen, Colorado 81611 r:, 5)Zz& iau T/\r/t^' -' P-<.kCo,^ )lr 6 /( 6 ' ''i" s *8t, \, i J t (i,u(, fol" [^q ,!lt I u\Jr"'ll 0 5-c\ ,n-"'.- /''-,1 / | 1(tf'ftuc4>e: - lny'b-l'.",- ,'t / -J I C4"4 &' t t^ )''Jt , /''"- 0u{ l/o J l, ^ t/u'--' ,t 6 ( lt-, Tho EmIori?m "s\_) -- \*v \ ^- r\-\)'\J (:{\-'-\-o<='\- I VAIL.BOX 602 \=\*s ts--.-'.-.-N . : (r , ,--'\- - C\:r \\,.-;1q\i1:',d!\--. <:lL\ Cc-,\ \\\ c.-\\ \..----\\- \'^.i\*.tltrrrc-fe-5 C-\ K,\c\ I..l--,:3 c!-i\- -_u\C <:-'r-r.-t _)( \-{j: c ., ^.\*--..t\./ '1-t,n{\--' X(. *\' Y . \rt\ box 100 vail, colorado 81657 (303) 476-s613 department of community development Septenber 1, lgSl Pepi Gramshanrner 251 East Gore Creek DriveVail, Colorado 81657 Re: Casino Building Dear Pepi: we are sending you an additional notice concerning the redeveropnentof the casino Building. lhe project has been appioved unanirnouslyby the Townts planning and Environnentar conrnisiion. Thii purric hearingtook place on August il , lggt in the council charrbers of the M'nicipalBuilding. we wourd like to invite you to an additional review of the projectin front of the Town councir. on Tuesday, september g at the MunicipalBuilding in rhe councir chanbers. rhe- revilw *iri tut" price at z:oop. n0. Very trulyTours,/'/../ -y' ..,..-,/--'i-<-a<--- A./PETER PATTEN, JR Senior Planner APP:bpr box 100 vail, colorado 81657 (303) 476-5613 departrnent of community development September l, 1981 A & D Enterprises c/o Vince Domenico 286 Bridge Street Vail, Colorado 81657 Re: Casino Building Gent I enen : We are sending you an additional notice concerni-ng the redevel opmentof the Casino Building. The project has been approved unaninously by the Town rs Planning and Environmental cornrnission. This public hearingtook place on August 31, 1981 in the council charnbers of the Mmicipal Bui Iding. We would like to invite you to an additional review of the projectin front of the Tor,rn council on Tuesday, septehber 8 at the MunicipalBuilding in the council chanbers. The review will take place at z:00 P.n, Very truly,r yours, '' ../,, - -,_- t-'' ,, .)-j,'_'-,a-.\_ - A,/PETER PATTEN, JR Senior Planner APP:bpr a luun box 100 vail, colorado 81657 {3031 476-5613 department of community development Septenber l, 1981 Wal1 Street Arcadec/o Mike pinkhan Box 2468 Vail, Colorado 8165g Re: Casino Building Dear l,h. pinkhan: ,'e are sending you.an additional notice concerning the redevel.pmentof the casino niriraine. irr"-p.ri""t'i., t""r, .;;;.;;; iiJnimousryby the Townts pranning_""a e.ii"i"'**i"r cormrsiion. -Ti,t;pubric hearing;::l.l:;:" on August ii' rgsr-in-.il,""io"".i1 chamber ,oi-ih" r4unicipal We would like to invite lou to an additional review of the projectin front of the To* 99q9ir ""-i""Jir|" septenber 8 at ihe r,lunicipai iliott in the council cit"^u""r.-"iil'""uiew wirr take place at 2:00 Very truiy youTs, .-<-r.L( A. PETER PATTEN, JRSenior Planner APP: bpr luwn box 100 vail, colorado 81657 (303) 476-5613 department of community development L,September 1 981 Bob Lazier Box 627 Vai1, Colorado 81658 Re: Casino Building Dear Bob: We are sending you an additional notice concerning the redevelopment of the Casino Building. The project has been approved unanirnous ly by the Townrs Planning and Environrnental Cornrnission. This public hearing took place on August 31, 1981 in the Cormcil Chambers of the l"ftmicipal Bui lding. We would like to invite you to an additional review of the project in front of the Town Council on Tuesday, Septernber 8 at the Municipal Building in the Council Chanbers. The review will take place at 2:00 p.n. ..\Very truly Tyours , ,../t', ',/ 4r'/', --L!- L<_ A. 'PETER PATTEN, JR Senior Planner APP:bpr lnwn box 1 OO vail. colorado 81657 (303) 476-5613 department of community development September l, 1981 Vail Associates P.O. Box 7 Vail, Colorado 81658 Re: Casjao Building Gentlemen: We are sending you an additional notice concerning the redevelopmentof the Casino Buit<iing. The project has been approved unanimously by the Townts Planning and Environmental Conrnission. This public hearing took place on August 31, 1981 i.n the Cormcil Chanbers of the Mr.rricipalBuilding. , We would like to invite you to an additional review of the projectjn front of the Town Council on Tuesday, Septenrber 8 at the ltrmicipal Bui-lding in the Council Chaubers. The review will take place at 2:00 P.m. Very truly yours, A, IPETER PAMEN, JR Senior Planner APP:bpr box 100 vail. colorado 81657 (303) 47es6r3 department of community development Septerber 1, 1981 John McBride 105 Pacific Avenue Aspen, Colorado 816i1 Re: Casino Building Dear John: l{e are sending you an additional notice concerning the redevelopmentof the Casino Building. The project has been approved rmaninoully by the Town rs Planning and Environnental connissi.on. l'his public hearingtook place on August 31, 1981 in the Council Chanbers of the Muni.cipal Bui lding. We woul<i like to invite you to an additional review of the projectin front of the Town Council on Tuesday, September 8 at the l"lwricipalBuilding in the Council Charnbers. The review will take place at Z:00 P.n. Very truly yotl-rs, ' '//-i+..,_ ti,*/1_, A. PETER PATTEN. JR Senior Planner APP:bpr box 100 vail. colorado 81657 (303) 476-5613 department of community development Septenber 1, 1981 Creekside Condominium Association 586 Hanson Ranch Road Vail, Colorado 8i657 Re: Casino Building Gentlernen: l4re are sending y.u an additionar notice c-oncerning the redevel'pr'entof the Casino Buitding. The project has been _pp;";;; iiJnimoustyby the Townts planning and Environrnentar counisiion. rhis puulic heari-ngtook place on August 31 , lggr in the cor.ncri chanbers or-ir," MrmicipalBui I ding . We would like to invite you to an additional review oi th" projectin front of the Town council 0n Tuesdav, septernber g at the r,fruricipalBuilding in the council chanbers. The'reviLw will take pr"ce at z,ooP'lI|. Very truly 'yours , *-/-l- t' (- A: PETER PAT'TEN, JR Senior Planner APP: bpr box 100 vail, colorado 81657 (3031 476-5613 department of community development September 1, 1981 Rucksack Condorniniuur Association c,/o Ghiqui Clair 288 Bridge Street Vai-1, Colorado 81657 Re: Casino Bldg l{e are sending you an additional notice concerning theof the Casino Building. The project has been approved by the Townrs Planning and Environmental Cornmission, took place on August 31, 1981 in the Council ChanbersBuilding. l redeve l opment unan imous ly This public heari.ng of the Municipal We would like to invite you to an additional review of the projectin front of the Town Cormcil on Tuesday, Septernber 8 at the lfimicipalBuilding in the council charnbers. The review will take place at 2100p.n. I very trury, yours, A. PETER PATTEN, JR Senior Planner APP:bpr lnwn a box 100 vail, colorado 81657(303) 47&5613 department of community development September 1, lggl The _Bridge Street Condominiun Association285 Bridge StreetVail, Colorado 81657 Gentlemen: Re: casino Buil ding F iil: ;::i;:trlllu?1"'ooillonal . not ice concerning the redever opnent !r ln. i;;; ;iil;l"*' rhe project has been ;il;";; ,,i"lr'ou,ry iill,i*:;"; i;illi"5, l"fn5i"i,1Tn:";:L::ru*#il; ]lft"nj;"ff:1,"_ fi i!li: iiu:nl"r:ilt,1:..I:l.to an additionar review of the projectruiiai.,e ;; ffi ;#l"iifijil:I.:,";,i:r, s"pt"'u"'.'s1. tTe Munrciparp.n. - .eview will take place at 2:00 A. PETER PATTEN. JRSenior planner APP:bpr luttn box 100 vail, colorado 81657 (3031 476-5613 department of community development Septenber 1, lg8l Re: Casino Building Dear ltlr. Stork: IVe are sending you an additional notice concerning the redeveropnentof the Casino Building. The project has been "ppiolrra un.iirou"fyby the Townts planning and Enirironmentar cor^irsion. --nrii'p,rur:.c hearing took place on August si, rggl-in the councir chanbers of thel'fimicipal Buj,lding. Ite would like to invite you to an additional review of the projectrn front of the Town councir o" rr"iJ"y, septenber s-"t-ii"'MunicipalBuilding in the council chanbers. I-ne'revi-ew wilr take iiJce at z,ooP'n. Very truly yours, The Del icatess enc/o 0tto Stork 288 East Bridge StreetVail, Colorado 81657 A. PETER PATTEN, JRSenior Pl anner APP:bpr I department of community developmentbox 100 vail, colorado 81657 (3031 476-5613 Septenber 1, l98l Bell Tower Building c/o Clark Willinghan Hitch Enterprises 1300 Bryan Tower Dallas, Texas 75201 Re: Casino Buildine Dear l,tr. Willinghan: We are sending you an additional notice concerning the redevelopment of the Casino Building. The project has been approved tmanimously .by the Town rs Planning and Environnental Comnission. This public r.earing took place on August 3l , 1981 in the Council Charnbers of the Municipal Bui 1ding. Itle would like to invite you to an additional review of the project in front of the Town Council on Tuesday, Septedber 8 at the I'lunicipal Building in the Council Chanbers. The review will take place at 2:00 P.n. Very truly yourS, ,. _,_L.L4 A. PEFER PATTEN, JR Senidr Planner APP:bur lnwnl l|fl September 1, 1981 Plaza Building c,/o Mrs. Hil l 29I Bridge Street Vai1, Colorado 31657 Re: Casino Building Dear Mrs. Hill: lue are sending you an additional notice concerning the redeveroprnentof the Casino Building. The projeci-i,", u"en *ppio,r"J ,nrniro*rryby the Townts Planning and En-virlnnentar conrmi-ssion. This pubric hearing ;:ll.lj;:" on August 31, 1s81 in tr'" Co*cil chanber, "i-.r,i Mwricipal We would in front Building like- to invite you to an additional review ofot tne Town Cowrcil on Tuesday, September g atin the Councit Chauibers. The ieviiw ,iir t*" box 100 vail, colorado 81657 {303} 476-s613 i/ truly ye111'r, * t{--L department of community development the project the Municipal place at 2:00prtnt Very A. PETER PAMEN. JRSenior Planner APP: bpr PLanning and Environmental Commission Town of Vail August 31, 1981 Don H. Galgan Representing Gata llora, Ltd. l*-r r-' t | ,i,. Re: That Portion of the ProPosed renodel of Bridge Street Condominiurn Buildiug as noted on attached ffoor PIan. tf tne sffi.nwest a ttcommon Condominium Gent lcnen : The proposed addition to the building located on .ornLt and spaning part of the alley woul"d !e in. area" necessitating- approval of the Bridge Street Assoc iat i on. Because the rnechanics of this approval have yet l? be finalized Gata Mora, Ltd. wishes at this tirne to delete thlt addition from its proposal. Project Application Project Description: Contact Person and Phone Owner, Address and Phone: Architect, Address and Phone: Design Review Board APPROVAL o"," .-$.f*f- /i:i, f f df DISAPPROVAL PEc -2- rrfrt Peter Patten gave the background and listed corrections to the nemo. Theywere that the 1ot si.ze should be twice as large, or 20,90g sq ft. DickBrewer introduced himserf and his representative, Ray storey. Ray explainedthe Brewersr position, stati.ng that ihe developrnent;"u;;; primarily for employees,and were less expensive units--difficult to sell now because of financing. He addedthat the porch wis already defined, anJ that it had 4 of the 6 surfaces, and thatno more space would be added, that the entrance wourd be irnproveil, Discussion as to whether or not this would be precedent setting followed. Gerryreminded them that cost or inconvenience is nol considered a hardshi"p. Jirn Morgannoved and Dan seconded to deny the varianc" * :.i-*rr-ra-a"a in the neno datedAugust 24' 198r. The vote was 4-l to deny. Duane voted against denial . He feltthat the added GRFA was not adding bu1k, nor was it a significant increase. Healso felt that a greenhouse rs transparency nade it somewhat ress bulky inappearance . S. . l:q3e:l ,-tot, a, varl rom the cov@ection 18,12.080of the vail ittunicffiuild a secondary uniffi6, Vail rnternountain subdi-vision, rsis Bellflower. Applicants: crai.g and Jan webb. Peter -Jamar presented the memo and reminded the corunissioners of the restrictiorLsof ordinance 22 of 198r, for lots under 151000. one restriction was that halfof the parking nust be covered to ttav*-. secondary unit. He added that one ofthe reasons for this criteria was aesthetic, but in looking at Bellflower Drive,he discovered that there were "o c"t.g"r at all, Therefore, the staff felt thatthe variance shourd be granted, -ip".irity in li,ght of the fact that the addedunit, was.already enclosed in the base*ent. The itaff also fett that another stnrctureon the site rvould be norl d:t_:-inental to tfr" site i.hcn 2 adC ir..',nn.! ,,.nr- jr^ _-^^-^would be, and that anulher "*proy"u-ur.,;; "u; ;;;;";bi;.* ''-\irLuIi'r-L i"riiiine :Pi'ts Duane moved and Roger seconded to approveas stated in the staff nemo d.ated, g7'24/Bt.the request for the parking variance The vote was 5-0 in favor. Dick Ryan stated that the bedroom addition was_being dropped, and so the requestwas for the dinins "ggT lnd open greenhouse only. He expiained the neno andJack curtin showeJ additionai'ti;;:-'ih" addition of trre green house onry neededDRB approval ' Roger moved to approve the request subject to the conditions intne Inemo., and as stated in the riuff m"ro d.ated, g/24/Br. Duane seconded. Thevote was 5-0, unanirnously in favor of the request 7, R st for an exterior alteration and modification to the Hill buildine toadd a greGnEou-fi ining room etaiEon*an new bedroom l ocat at 3ll Bridge StAppl icant I l'{rs.Cortlandt T.'Hill. 6,tuest . for extcrior altcration and modi-fication to the Casino Buildin toconstruct 3 cbn nium units, ffiD and D and a part of lots e,"c ,na-r,-sirj-'ii,;.iispirce and o cc space located onVillage First Filing.lots Appri-cants: Carlos Agostoni and James .I, iprowls. Peter Patten explained.that the proposal was a completc r-cdevelopnent of thc casinobuilding' He presented the site pi!"t-r"a cxplained thc floor ptans. Gerry whi.teread a letter from the condominiun .r.o.i,,tion stating that the alley was conmo'property and that to build there would rcquire .ppr.ouol ft.om them. Therefore,tne allcy proposal was not to u" "o,riiclired at this mceting. Gerry adclcd tlatwltcn he nent out to the site, he ;;;";;; bcen totd t',ot -ii,i'tuilcling wout<t bcextended I fcct on the southwest ""*"r. PEC -3- 8/3L/8L Dick Ryan stated that for the 2-L/2 years that he had been in the Planning offices, there had been much talk of trying to inprove this part of the Village and nuch talk of naking the alleyway a viable walkway. He felt that the project was a tremendous improvenent to the Village. Gordon Pierce, architect for the project, showed slides and talked about scheduling the construction. He stated that after Labor Day, the plan was to take out thetrash, equiprnent and partitions that werenrt needed. He added that the contractorfeit that he could neet the planned schedule. Diseussion followed with concern exPressed that the project not look half finished through winter, and naybe using a finish naterial on the exterior if work was stopped patt way through. The northwest corner of the building was discussed, some nenbers feeling that the building shouJ.d not be extended out at that point. John Donovan also objectedto the extension. Others felt that a sma11 projection might. be better than aflat wall in that area. Gordon spoke of lowering the al1ey 2 or 3 feet to rnake it lighter and airier, and possibly to have glass looking into Pistachiois restaurant. 'lhe proposal discussed at this point did not include the al1ey or the extensionat the northwest cotner of the building, and t.hese two itens were to be continuedfor 2 weeks. Dan rnoved and Roger seconded to approve the exterior alteration and nodificationto,the Casino Building as stated in the neno with two additional conditi.ons:1, That the finished facade be completed before Christmas or the applicant do a treainent sinil.::: to the '-inf in i'she d' ecrurerci irl sSacc a*- the GcnCola buil ding.2, That the applicant agrees to participate financially in street inprovenents,e.g. street pavers, street lights, at the intersection of Gore Creek Drive and Bridge StTeet if a mini.inprovement district is formed. The applicantst share would be deterinined by street frontage of p1'operty and other property owners nould also have to agree to participate. vote was 5-0 in favor. The deck area office expansion was continued until next PEC neeting, B. Request _for. an amendment to the Vail Lionshead Urban Design Grride Plan for------ii::---_--Study Area #5, and an eite-r conmercial and office space located wouth of Vantage Point, north of Lift House Lodge and Lions Pride building and northeast of vail 2l building. Applicant: Robert T. Lazier. Dick Ryan presented the neno and stated that this was a significant proposalfor Vail . Ile added that the Urban Design Guide Plan discusses including rnote conmon spaceand encourages a new entry concept i-nto the mall. from the east, andthis- proposai fulfills some major objectivel of the UDGP and was an inprovementto the cornrnunity. Much discussion about parking followed. Gerry felt that parking was a najor _issue in this proposal, and that the loss of parking did not justify the proposal .Dick felt that thi-s was the purpose of the li00 spacc pcrking structure, ihotit was' planned knowing there vrould be more dcmand later. Gerry predicted thatthe parking structure was not going to be big cnough, and sooner or later nroreparking was going to be needcd. 2L-r i The the t fec -+- s/sr/sr Bill Ruoff showed plans and a model . Dick added that the staffts biggest concern was that Lionshead becone more successful , and that something signifi.cant neededto be done there. Jay Peterson stated that every project included a compromise. He added that they couldnrt make a good entrance and solve Vailts parking problem. Li.onshead has difficulty in this area, needs Z-onunercial space here, and that the parking problen wouldntt be worsened, he fe1t, Gerry felt that one problem would be solved while creating another with the parking. Dick felt thai they didn't wantto see parking used by people who corne to the couunercial area, that these people should be parking in the parking structure and that this wourd also reduce-coirgestion. Dan stated that both parking structures were designed for expansion later, Dinah Chaprnan, president of the Lionshead Assoiiation of Businesses stated thatin June Bill Ruoff had presented his plan to about 30 members of the association, and_ that parking was nentioned, and no conrplaints were received, She added thatt'rith the present situation, the aIley was usually blocked and parking illegallyused. The people at this neeting were ecstatic over the propoial, Gerry felt that the Lionshead parking structure would soon be too crowded topark there. Roger suggested that the other menbers voice their opinions. Duane said that he was in favor of the proposal, Dan said that he was also infavor, Jim felt that it was a vast improvenent. to the situation there, and Rogerstated that he had been working in Lionshead for the past 6 years, tryj.ng to'breathe sone life into the corunercial aspect, and that this appears to addressthe rnost serious problen and recommended approval . He added that when the parkir:g problern becomes nore serious, the planning ionrnis sion would address it and iolveit at that tine. Jin noved and Roger seconded to reconnend approval of the amendment to the Urban Design Guide Plan to the Town Council . The vote was 4=1 in favor (Gerry against), Duane rnoved and Jiur seconded for approval of the exterior alteration and modi-fication of the proposal dated August 26, 1981 with the 6 conditions listedin the memo. The vote was 5-0 in favor. Roger moved to adjourn,at 5:I5 p.m. MEMORANDUM T0: PLAl.Ii{tNG AND TNVIRONIUINTAL CO},LVISSION FROM: DEPARTI1INT OF COMI!ruNITy- DEVELOPI'IENT/PETER PATTEN DATE : Aug'dst 26 , 1 98 1 RE: Request for exterior alteration and modificati.on to the Casino Building to construct 3 condomj"nium units, new retail space and office space located on lots D and E and a Part of lots B, C and F, Block 5C, Vair Vitlage First Filing. Applicanti Carlos y'.gostoni and James J. Sprowls. A. BACKGROIJND AND DESCR]PTION OF PROPOSAL The Casino Building has changed ownership and the new owners wish to revise the uses for thc property to residential and retail shops. The proposal Tepresents a najor change in the use of the building, which has always beetl used as a nightclub- - first as Casino Vail, and then as Gartonrs Saloon. The project involves redeveloping the street level spaces to four new retail shops, retairling the existing real estate office and maintaining the Valley Forge as is (with possibly some facade improvenents at a future date). New bay windows for the retail spaces are incorporated with a sidewalk in front. Encroachnents of 2t to 3t are proposed onto TOV right-of-way on the Gore Creek Drive side to provide room for the stairs and sidewaik near the stores and entrance to the condoniniums. A previous proposal came out about 5t farther and has been scaled back due to negative Town Counci.l reaction. tandscaping is in the form of aspen trees on the perineter of the sidervalk and planter boxes in the sane general areas. A najor segment of the proposal is to redevelop "the alley" on the south side of the building. The proposal entails a srna11 (about 289 sq ft) office addition on the western end of the alley, a glass enclosure of the entranceto Pistachiors, brick pavet walkway, and a redevelopment of area to the west of the alley to accorunodate grade changes and make an attract.ive, inviting entrance into the alley. The existing corunercial spaces fronting Walt Street wi.ll renain as is. 't --!r'CT () TO: PLAMIING A,\D ENVIRONI,II]NTAL COWISSION FROM: DEPARTIIENT OF COMI\ruNITY DEVELOPMj]NT/PETER PATTEN DATEI August 26, 1981 RE: Request for exterior alteration and nodification to the Casino Building to construct 3 condominium units, new retail space andoffice space located on lots D and E and a part of lots B, C andF, Block 5C, Vait Virlage First Filing. Applicant: CarlosAgostoni and James J. Sprowls. A. BACKGROUND AI'ID DESCRIPTION OF PROPOSAL The casino Buirding has changed ownership and the new owners wish to revisethe uses for the pl'ope"ty to residential and retail shops. The proposal represents a major change in the use of the building, which has always beenused as a nightclub- -first as casino vail , and then as Gartonr s saloon. The project involves redeveloping the stleet level spaces to four new retail thops, retaining-the existing-rei1 estate office and maintaining the Val1eylorge as is (with- possibly sorne facade i.mprovements at a future date). New !"y windows for the retail spaces are inc-orporated with a sidewalk in front, _ &rri_r \JilLltuttitl L5 uI z ' Creek Drive side to provide roon for the stairs and sidewaik neirr the stores , i. .and -entrance_ to the condominiums. A previous proposal cane out about 5r ' ,, -l farther and has been scaled back drre in neoatiwc Tnt,,, r^,,-^i r raar+innr; I farther and has been scaled back due to n6gative Town Council reaction.Landscaping is in the forrn of aspen trees on the perineter of the sidervalkutd planter boxes in the same general areas. :.". :.' najor segment of the proposal is to redevelop 'rthe aI leyil on the southr19: gr the building. fire -proposar entails a imalr iaboui 289 sq ft) office' .j, ,-':l .,-rr,..'..' . . addition.or.t lhe westeral end of the al ley, a glass enclosure of the entTance', -,:..:1... ;::.i: ado1l10n on tne westeral end of the al. r' :.r;:; to Pistachiors, brick paver walkway,:r' ':;,1;...,. , west of the alley toaccommodategrade oilf ralrt a inln +ha al Iarr The existing conrnercial spaces fronting l{alI Street. will renain as is. I MEMORANDUTI and a redevelopment of area to the changes and rnake an attractive, inviting c:r.sino urfll- d/26/sl On the Second I evel wi.i 1 bc the lot+er lcr,,cl s ofa new office space of 909 sq ft (including overdcck renodeled to a priv:rtc tlcck rvith a hot tub. The third level contains the upper levcls of two 1"y"1 :r being proposed to accornmodatc the uppcrA height increase of Br on the soutliern porti;nto acconmodate the upper level of this unit duein the current building design. .l B. COMPLIANCE h'ITII PURPOSE SECTION the thrcc condonriniuns, the allcy) and the existing of the units, while a four:thlevel ofl the third unit.of the building is neccssaryto the half-level i.nvolved proposed changes as outiined above The commercial core I llistrict is intended to provide sites and to naintainthe.unique character of the vail village conrmercial Area, wj.th its rnixtureor rooges and conmercial esta.bl ishrnent s in a prcdominantly pedestrian environ-ment, The cornmercial core I Distri.ct is intencled to ensuie- adequate J-ight,air, - open space and other.amenities appropriate to the perrnitted types ofbuidings and uses, The District reguiotions in accordance with the Vail Y:111q:_Y:tan. Design Guide plan and Design Considerations prescribe siteoevelopnent standards that are intended to ensure the mainienance and preservationof the tightly clustered arrangements of buildings fronting on pedestrianway-s- and public greenways and to ensure continuaiion of buitaing scale andarchitectural qualities that distinguish the Vi11age. The _Conunun ity Developnent Department considers that. theconform to the purpole of the Co,runercl"ai Core I Disttictand r.n the Vail Village Urban Design Guide plan. C. C0MPLIANCE llr:ITH VArL VILLAGE URBAN DESIGN GUrDE PLAN AND DESIGN CONSIDEMTIONS I, o . Concept 15 - Facade inprovements. Eyesores removed,increased facade transparency, entries sinplified. and oriented toward intersection. (This ii addressingthe Gore Creek Drive elevation.) Atl of these iteras are included in the proposar by creating retail shopsin this area. Concept 138 - Mid-bIock connection fcovered) fromBridge Street to Village plaza. The proposal calls for the rnid-block connection, but only covers a seve.teenfoot stretch on the western end via the "office-61i6*",i-' iire remainaer ofth-e walkway is to be heated, a very expensive proporil as wett as one witha high potential for breakdown. T'he siaff r"*i, irr"l-moie"rtuay is needctlas to the possibility.of actually covering the rernaini,rg fortion of the allcywith a glass roof. This would ailow ligrrt into thc space as well as keepi.ngit clear of snow in the winter. problcms to addrcss i-or a glass roof wouldbe snow removal and drainage. {r c.ri,',,(l. j- Bl26/sr Concept 16 - Kcy interscction in l,ri.ltage Core.Feature area paving trcatnent, (fiiis ls theGore Cr.cck Drive and Bridge Strcct intcrsection.l Gage Davis and Associates has drawn some very prer irni.nar:y sketchcs of thisintersectio' so that r{e can attempt to tie-in the casino design with thoseideas' The idea at this tirne is to "t"ot" a circular area of special paversin the intersection- _ To resp.nd t" init ciesign., ttre proposal for the casinoBuilding has curved the steps.o*ing-oii that corncr io lr"na with the curvi_linear edge of thc peving tieatmentl 2. Urban Design Considerations a. P-ede strian i zat i o-n Pedestrianization will definitely be inrproved in and through three differentareas surrounding the building. A new pedestrian experienie witl emergewith the redevelopment of the arrey ana-the area to ihe west of the arley.This ner'r Bridge street-virl age pla'za link wilt op*n ,rp-" niw pathway throughthe vi'lIage r.'hi-ch can onry serve to e'hance the pedestrian experience. on the Bridge street side, the existing ,,dead-encr'r walkway wirr be eliminatedto allow sider,rark traffic around the cJrner to the core creek Drive side.Also irnproved r,ri1l be the connecti;; io tr,u walk'ay irr-t""", of the prazaBuilding shops- A grade change or iro-rrups wirl sepdrate this sidewarkfrorn the street grade. The Gore creek Drive side wirl be vastly inproved of'ferj.ng a new sidewarknear the entrance to-the shops and the tond6mini_ums. ThiI will enhancethe pedestrian e-xperience by again ofiering an additional arternative.This is the area -where the irr"i"."r-irci,.ra"r 2,-sr of r:ov "ieirt-of-way.Thesidewalk all the wav around to Bridge street alrows free-frow of pedestiantraffic by continuing ttre tt"pr otoi,,d ihe entire perirneter of the sidervalk.Also included is a landscapin! proposal of some "r;";-;;;;; to incr-easethe green area of this side oi itt"'rir""t lpt"reniiy tt"r"-i" virtuallyno landscaping). o b.Vehicle Penetration The types of shops that will nost likely go i.n witl not generate a largeatn'ount of delivery traffic, The delivery vehicres niii fr"--gouerned byexisting and future Core area tine zoning. The delivery traffic willprobably be reduced from what it has becn due to the elimination of thehigh delivery traffic businesscs oi-cuiron,s, Kentucky Fried chicke.nand Bridge street tln' -Traffic- t"tuiiig the controminiums rvirl be restrictedto occupant delivcry only and ttre gcn.iat parking will be met via thcparking strucrure. At sone tirne Jr trr".a"i-1t,";"";; tJ a"u"r,, parkedin front of the storcs along Gore Crcek Drive.,l v The enclosure ratio of street width to building hej.ght is presently at l ljl: The-impact of raising the height on the :;or,rih portLon of theDullding will be negiigible because the ptaza Lodge is still taller thanthe Casino Building, even with the adclition. e. Street Edge The proposal provides a well defined street edge with the creation of the new pedestrian walkrr'ays . f . Building lleight The proposal meets the tl,D.G.P. limitations on height: 4O% of the footprint no higher than 40' and 60% of the building footprint no higher than 30', neasured to roof nidpoints, even with the additional 8' on the south end. Views by allowing pedcstr.iarr additiorrs along Gorc strectscape franework as designated in the U.D.G.P. are affected c. No by 3.Zoning Code a. Site Area - br Setbacks - Considerations .179 acre ot 7.797 sq Zero setback allowed ft Proposed: East 8 r South 6rWest 6 r North 3t curi ,(?,* -4- s/ztr/Bl c.n@ Thc strcetscape framework wilt bc greetly inrprovcd flow in three ncw a.reas and elinti.nating thc tack-on Creck Dri.ve . Ncw retai.I shops wil I gr:cat ly aid thc as wel l . d. Srreet Enc 1 osur:c najor or minor view .planes the proposal . c. Height - see height above {_a q' !s:lqv-_qe_'r!ru1 CRI:A sitc :rrca UNITS . r79 PROPOSED 3 units of casinop -s- s/26/sl A1lorvabIe --!l!f,!--.=_ 6237 sq ft GIiITA ratio . 179 acre acre x 25 units/acre = 4 units 6237 sq ft plus 20ea of GRFA allorvedfor common areas, -80 l,anjlscapin-g - as mcntioned r.s Detng propos ed. f. -lgfl:nc_ - -The applicable parkin_g. fee will be required for the retailspace-s and the condominiuns. Flrst payrnent of ih;;;rling re. ir---due at the tine of ternpoiif .""iit:i"ut" of occupancy. carlier, an increasc in landscaped ar.eas 4. drch.itectural and Lancisc Con si dera t ion s These rvi11It appears very wel 1. by the Design Review Boarcl atimprovenents fo11ow the Des j.gn 1.^ the adrires sed buil ding a later date. Con sideration s RECordvg\pATr0N The Departnent of comnunit-y Developnent reconrnends approval of the redeveloprnentof the casino Building. Iye find tiat 'heproposa.r includes many positiveaspects for the vi-rrage by increasiug pea6stii." fi;;-;;;ind the buirding,adding new Pedestrian experiences on tirree sides of the uuiralng and generallvulproving the aestheticl of the structure. rn" "ir"y'-profo.ur is a goodo'ne, if the covered roof can be incorporated and if itrs workable. The conditions of approval are as follows: l' rhat the applicant agrees to participate in and not renonsrrate againsta special improvcment districi if ancl when formeJ-io"-v^ir vilrage. 2' That the annricant aqrgg Io provicre and pay for the alrey improvernents(incruding'pau""r-and lighting), a street light on the Gore creekD-rive and Bridge Streer int ""i".tio; . -J''.i,; ^"'.'- ":'^:::; trre area to-iti sourhwest "r .r,"-r,lli.1li t {i"iffi:.iTril"iil,l.ii,il*"PLaza steps. In addition, thc appti.ont -*iir rr" ,"rp""rible to stutly. alternatives for thc alley, inctuaing a pcrmancnt covcr; and that t'efinar design ancr materiar' iuii-uc-ru[,niti"J- a"J""r,p""r"a by the Torvn' of vair. construction must bc conrplctc;-;; ;;;";'''.i"',1'*n"**a_*a*** (!, rt(ril -tr- 6/r{r/\l 3. 'Ihat thc appi,icant partici.pates fi'anciaiLy i'thc construction o{:a tr'sh cnclos'r'c facirity (conrpilctor:) in ihc a1rcy of the srifcrBui l dirrg . 4.,--:IJ1at^.th.e. appl icu-nt_- Lc.ccivc A revocabJe right-oi;^_1vay--_agrc-CffiiT-with\-'l- tiie Toivn rot ur.l oF])"fui..y-rr"i.i gi ng--r#rri"-fi;;: -- r o cnsino Brt-2- 8/26/sr the thr:ee condontiniums, the alley) and the existing of the units, while a fourth leve1 of the third unit, of the buileling is necessaly to the half-levet involved The Comnercial Core I District is intenderl to provi.de sites :rnd to naintainthe unique character of the vail village conmercial Area, with its mixtureof lodges and colunercial establishrnenci in a prcciominantiy pedestrian environ-ment' The comrnercial core I District is intended to ensure adequate light,air, open space and other ameni,ties appropriate to the pernittea- types orbuidings and uses. The District regrlitions in accorcl.ance with the vailvillage Urban Design Guide plan and Design consiclerations prescribe site de-vel optnen t standards that are intended to ensnre the rnainienance and preservationof the tightly clustered arrangements of buildings fronti-ng on pedestrianways and public greenways and to ensure continuation of building scale andarchj.tectural qualities that distinguish the Village. The_community Development l]eparctment considers that the proposed changesconform to the purpose of ttre Cornrnercial Core I District as outiined aboveand in the Vail Village Urban Design Guide plan. C. COMPLIANCE IJ.IT}I VAi.{. VILLAGE URBAN DESIGN GUIDE PLAN AND DESIGN CqNSIDEMTIONS t. ' concept 15 - Facade improvenents. Eyesores removed,increased facade transparency, entries sirnplified and oriented toward intersection. (ThLs is addressingthe Gore Creek Drj,ve elevation.) Al 1 of these items are included in the proposar by creating retail shopsin this area. Concept 138 - Mid-b1ock connection (covered) fronBridge Street to ViLlage plaza. The proposal ca11s for the nid-block connection, but onl.y covers a seventeenfoot stretch on the western end vie the "office-6yi4g" ' '.' The rernainder ofthe walkway is to be heated, a very expensive p"oporol as werl as one witha high potential for breakdown. T-he siaff feeis ihat more study is necderjas to the possibility of actually covering the remaining portio; of the alleywith a llass roof. Thi-s would aitow tighi into the rpuf"'as well as keepingit clear of snow in the rvinter. problems to address lor a gtass roof woulcrbe snow removal and drainage, 0n the second level will bc the lower lelrols ofla new office spacc of 909 sq ft (including over deck renodeled to ;r private dcck with a hot tub. The third level contains the upper levels of twolevel is bei.ng proposed to accornmodatc the uppcr A height increase of B t on the soutircrn portionto accommodate the upper level of this unit duein the eurrent buil ding design. B. COMPI,IANCE WITI{ PURPOSE SECTION c"sin.'fg -3- 8/zb/BI Conccpt. 16 - Kcy interscction in 'fj1lage Core. f eatur:e area paving treiitnent. (This is theGore Crcck Drj-ve and Brldge Street i-ntcrsection.l Gage Davi.s and Associ.tes has <lrawn somc very prelirni.nary skctches of thisintersection so that lre can attenpt to tie-in ihe casino design wi"th thoseideas. The idea at this tine is io "."nt" a circular area of special paversin the intersecti.on. To respond to this dcsignn the proposal for the casi.noBuilding has curved the stepi coming off that corner to blend with the curvi-linear edge of thc prving ticatmcntl b. Vehicle penetration 2. a,, P-edestrianiz_e-ti.on Pedestrianization will definitely be inrproved. in and through three differentareas surrounding the building. A new pedestrian experience will energewith the redevelopnent of the arley ancr the area to ihe west of the aliey,This-new Bridge street-village pla-za link will open up a new pathway throughthe village nhich can only serve to cnhance the pedesiri.an experience. on the Bridge street sid.e, the existing 'rdead-end', walkway will be eliminatedto allow sidewalk traffic around the corner to the core creek Drive side.Also irnproved rvi11 be the connection to the walkway in front of the plaza *:ld::* s]rous- A grade change of two sreps will separate this sidewalkrron tne street grade. The Gore creek Drive side wilr be vastly inproved offering a new si.dewalknear the entrance to the shops and the condominiuins. This will enhancethe pedestrian experience by again offering an additionar afternative.rnls rs tne area where the proposal includes zt-s' of rov right-of_way. The :id:T?lk. all the way around to Bridge street arrows free-flow of pedestiantraffic by conti.nuing the steps aroind the entir" p"rin-t"" of the sidervalk,Also included is a landscaping proposal of sorne uriun t""", to increasethe green area of this sidl oi ii "^ street (presently there is virtuallyno landscaping). The types of shops that^wi11 most likely go in will not generate a rargeury""I of delivery traffic. The delivery vehicres will i'e goverrred byexisting and future core area time zoning. The delivery traffi.c wittprobably tre reduced from nhat it has bee' due to the elimination of thehigh-delivery traffic busi.nesses of Garion,s, Kentucky Fried chickenand Bridge stTeet rnn. -Traffic- serving the condonriniums will be restrictedto occupant derivery only and the geneial parking will be met via theparking structuTe. At sone tirne ;f the-day thcre may be trucJ<s parkedin front of the stores along Gore Creek Drj.ve. c.gt r "9594P9__l r3f Ey9-4 The streetscape framework will be grcatl)' intprovcd flow in three ncw a.reas and elinin:rti.ng the tack-on Creck Drive. New retai.l shops wi.l I greatly aj.d the as well. curi,ei,is -4- B/26/Bi by allorvjng pedcstriarr additions along Gorc streetscaPe framework d. Sireet Enc l osur:e The enclosure ratio of' street width to building helght is presently at a 1:1. The j.npact of raising the height on the south portion of the building will be negligible because the l)laza Lodge is stil 1 taller than the Casino Building, even with tlie addition, e. Street Edgs The proposal provides a v,rel1 defined street edge with the creation of the new pedestrian walkl''rays. f . Building tieight The proposal neets the IJ.D.G.P. linitations on height: 4O,o of the footprint no higher than 40t and 6\eo of the building footprint no higher than 30', measured to roof nidpoints, even with the additional 8' on the south end. g. Views No major or minor view . planes by the proposal . as designated in the U'D.G.P. are affected 3. a. Site Area - .179 acre or 7797 sq ft br Setbacks - Zeto setback allowed Proposed: East South West North 8l 6l 6t 31 Considerations c,Height - see height above a d, Dcnsity Cont ro I casinofg Allowable. clur^ -s - B/26/8r cRl'A -s itc a lcir GIIFA ratio .179 acre ,80 623"/ sc1 ft UNITS . 179 acre PROPOSED x 25 units,/acre = 4 units 3 units af, 6237 sq ft plus 20ga of GRFA allowed for sommon areas. !g1!:gglgC - as rnentioned earlier, an increase in landscaped areasis being proposed, Parking - -The appli-cable parking fee rairl be required for the recailspaces and the condominiuns. First paynent of the parking fee i_sdue at the tine of ternporary certificate of occupanc|. 4, Arch.itectural La.n ds c Consi"derations These will be addr:essed by the Design Review Board at a later date.It appears the building inprovementi fo1low the Desi-gn considerationsvery well, RECO[&{ENDATION e, and The Departnent of Comrnunity Development recommends approval of the redevelopmentof the casino Building. }{e find that theproposa,l inJudes many positiveaspects for the village by increasing pedestiran flow around tire building, ?99ii-q.t"* pedestrian experiences on tiiree sides of the building and gerleraltyrnprovipg the aesthctics of the structure. The arley proposal is a gooaone' if the covered roof can be incorporated and ir ii,i w-orkable. The conditj.ons of approval are as followsl l, I'hat the applicant agrees to participate in and not remonstrate agalnsta special improvement district if and when formed for vail village. 2, That-the applicant agreq to provide and pay for the alrey improvetnents .(including pavers and lighting), a str.eei iigtt on the Gore CreekDrive and Bridge street irttersection, and rhe* proposed improvenents totire area to the southwest of the buirding. ,, it "onn*cts to the VirlagePlaza steps. rn addi.tion, the appricantiuiri u* resfonsiure to studyalternatives for the arley, incJ.ui:"'g a pernanent cover; and that thefinal design and materiar'rnust bc su6rni"ti.ea "ra "pp""ved by thc Townof Vail. construction must be conpleted no later ihan +re-.{a*F+f+9s* T€c tc I A?- 'fhat the applicant a trash cnc.l osur:c Bui I ding . part j.c i pates financially in f acil ity (corrrpactor') in the O". Iildg -6- B/26/81 the construction of alley of the Slifcr revocab i c right - oi'- w-a.X be*on g) irg"fth6'l'or*rr . frent withofp 1Ve a ei@rc@. bolduin ond ossocio[os, inc. orchitectura . plonning 2l August 1981 Town of Vail Department of Conmunity Development,/Peter PattenP. O. Box 100Vai1, Colorado BL65B Dear Peter: In response to your letter of 19 August concernj-ng theplanning staff review of our current proposal for theredevelopment of the Casino Building,- I irould like tosubmit the following comments and clarifications tominimize your concerns. 1. We agree that rnore landscaping area will have a morefavorable impact on this property. As such. you willfind a revised smal1 scale site pl_an which f hope ismore responsive to our desires, the desires of theTown of Vail staff and the townrs planning consult-ants from the Gage Davis and Associates office. Ourdiscussions with the representatives from Gage Davisand Associates gave us the impression that they wouldlike to see a solution which allowed a free flow ofpedestrian traffic in all directions without the majorform of impediments as occur along the south side oiGore Creek Drive West of the Casino Building. I feelthis revised plan meets this goal in concepi - ttrefinit.e detail witl be closely coordinated with themand the Tohrn as the development progresses after planapproval and prior to design review submission asindicated on page ii of the June 11 vail VillaoeDesign Considerations package, 2. There were several cases where our drawings and eleva-tions confticted between plan and elevation. This wasdue primarily to the fact that they were of two sep-arate "generations" of drawings, The doorway into the 1000 south frontogo rood ulast . voil, colorodo 81657 n3/4164433 rown of vail Department of Community Development/Peter Patten 21 August 1981 Page Two alley from the South side of the Casino Building willprobably become a window. This wil_l eliminate theneed for steps from the existing doorway to the pro-posed "alley" elevation, which would further constrictthe alley. This, however, must be coordinated withthe owners of that particular space within the CasinoBuilding, to meet their interior requirements. A second inconsistency indicated a window on the Eastelevation where an exteri-or deck was shown on thesecond floor plan. The window is in error, the decki-s correct and is a result of G.R.F.A. reductionsnecessary to bri-ng square footages within allowablelimits. I prefer to term this project a ,'redevelopment" ofthe Casino Building rather than a ,'remodel". A re-model implies a rather superficial alteration to in-terior spaces and exterior facades. This project goessignificantly beyond this and will require majorchanges in function, usage, interior structural system,exterior facades and site development, as well aslesser modifications (if possible) to neighboringportions of buildings and public spaces. Therefore,to show all existing conditions and proposed changesis more appropriately a requirement of I later "con-struction document" phase as l_ong as the intent andnat,ure of proposed changes is indicated in relation Lo what conditions exist at the "approval" stage ofthe review process. I feel that the drawings andscale model will adequately reflect these conditionsto the Planning and Environmental Commission on31 August. I wil1, however, provide you with printsof the existing Casino Building, as we have them, atyour request. 3. I have analyzed our proposal based upon the 60Z/40Zguidelines as requested by your letter. I do respect-fully disagree with the interpretive comments of yourletter concerning height. As stated in the CommeicialCore One District portion of the Town of Vail ZoningOrdinance, and Ordinance 37, 1980, the height firniti-tion for a sloping roof is 38 feet. The a-option ofthe Urban Design Guide plan and Vail Village designconsiderations do obviously have an impact on Commer-cial Core One p?6jects but are not har& and fast regu-Iations, rj-gid rules or inteniled to be cook book deiignelements, but are simply guideJ_ines to help influenceform and d.esign of buildings. At meetings during the 5. rown of vail Department of Community Development/Peter Patten 21 August 1981 Page Three creation of the Urban Design Guide PIan, many of theTownrs architects expressed a real concern that theguidelines might, at some future date, be misinter-preted by governing officials as being concrete regu-lations, creating misuse of a design tool . I hopethat, as stated in the Urban Design Guide, thisproject will be evaluated collectively in ternos ofbuilding height, enclosure, views, etc., to determineif we have achieved an appropriate balance in oursolution, rather than judging each item independently,in which case they could be mutually conflicling. The overage of approximately 80 square feet of G.R.F.A.wi]l be eliminated. It is our intention that a mutuaLly agreeable use ofthe Town of Vail property for circulation and pJ_ant-ing purposes will be achieved in conjunction with theTownrs planning consultants. A11 adjacent property owners and key tenants have beencontacted and are aware to some degree of our inten-tions. These meetings and updating conversations arecontinuing and will continue as the project progresses. The al-Iey paving will be coordinated with the Townlsplanning consultants and wil_l most probably match theexisting plaza,/stair paving. Lighting wiLl obviouslybe required at several areas around the building aswell as the alley, In the alley, we anticipate lightsunderneath the I'bridgs" element and possibly along thebuilding wal"l. As with other elements of this proposal , the detail ofthe Donoyanrs deck and stair alterations will be coor-dinated with the Townts planning consultants, theadjacent building owners and tenants concerned. The space provided on the second l_evel_ Southwest cornerwill be commercial- office space. Financial arrangements have not been finalized on thePistachiots entrance, Donovants d.eck, Town of Vai-tstairs, or Brandess-Cadmus office facad.e treatment.These are all proposals which would enhance our projectand the adjacent properties as well and will proUantybe achieved with the participation of all dir-ct1y con-cerned. 6. 7. 9. I0& 11 I would like to thank bothcooperation, understanding us as you have. Sincerely, ,€d. Richard S. Ba1 RSB/fb rown of vail Department of Community Developrnentr/Peter Patten 21 August 198J- Page Four you and Dick Ryan for your and willingness to meet with I1 Gordon R, Pierce and Associates Architecture / Planning CASINO BIITIDII{G RMEVEIOPMENT . PM]ECT DESCRTPTI"ON Rstrrdel and inproverrent of tlre q'roud floor ocrrrercial space inthe exlstirry Casino Brilding, creating four snal_l shop spa.ceS andproviding an entrY spaoe for tlre nor r44:er l-evel residerrtial con-dcrniniuns. Three oclsting ccnnercial_ spa.ces, Brandis-Ca&mrs ReaLEstate, The Val.ley fbrge and the GoLd and Silversnith Shop mav beproriided qrith nnderate "face l_ifts', ttnt wil-l unifii all lhop-facade treatfl€nts. Oonversion of the seaond and tfu3d floors of the e>cistinq ccrmer-cial- spaces !'ritldn the casJno Buil"dirq to three resldentiaL condo-rniniuns. Addition of a snaLL offic-e oordcrninir-urn E)qce on the semnd fl-oorw-ittr a portion of ttris office sparurirg the o<isting ',a11q,r" betrreenttrc Casino BuiLdirlg and the plaza fo@e Builcllng, Redwelotrment of the allq; bebrcen tlre Casino Buildinq and the PJ"aza Iodge Buifdhg into a gror:nd level- pedestrian passage J_inkingBridge Street $uith Whl_l_ Street and the pedestrian pl_aza. -Ttris schsre wil-l inchde dlanges to the entqz to pistactr:iors Restaurantif aEreeable to al-l- parties concerned. tr 1. 2, 1 +. 1650 East Vail Valtey Drive / Vait, Cotorado 81657/(3OS)476 -265T ta tr Gordon R. Pierce and Associates Architecture / Planning CASn{O BUIIDING REDElim.opME\TI A. URtsAN DESIG{ @ISIDERA|ICI{S 1. PMES'IRTANIZATICT{ This pro,posal addresses pedestrian traver on three level-s. First@estrian travel along Gore Creek Drir/e wil_l be enhanced byseparating the pedestrian frcm the roaftuay, alorry the northernfrrontage oontrolLed by ttre Casino euitOing, fron vetr:icles anddelivery operatlons, r.rlth a slight elevation of ttre walkway.Ihe walk r,cil-l- aLlcr^r free fl_cnz of the pedestrians along the-qtrget frontage. Seoondly, along tlre east sicle of thi builclinq(Bridge street side) wtrere the vetricular traffic is salsr,rhat 1ess,the pedestrians vrill be afforded a siroilar walk at a constantel-evation to a poht of access to the all"ev or to the step6l-eading to tlre PLaza Iodge shops. the current east side futiowhich offers oonfusiqr to the pedestrian because of its varieouse and because it does not harre a J.ogical- pedestrian aceess/eritat trp corner, will be el-iminated. the ttrira l-qzel addressed bytttis pnoposal is ttre soleJ-y pedestrian ildd blod< corurectinq linkbetreen Bridge Street ana Vlalf Street - "ftre Alley*. ft i6 theinterrgion of the nerur casino BrriJ.ding ohrner:s to vmrk w"ith the Toumof Vail-, ttre Plaza Iodge Building ontners (and tqrants) and anyutility ccnpanies utilizi-ng gyis easerrerrt to a:rive at a pleasant @estrian Erourrd l-eveL l_lnk bettn,en Bridge ard WaLL streets. witlrout the identification of actual shop qpes it is difflcrrLt tobe specifieaLly definitive about the natr:rJand amount of vehicul_artraffic reqrrired to sq,port the ocrmercial spaces, hooever, t-}recntners have indicated that tlrese qpaces w-ilf onry be utilized Lrlzhigh quality pedestrian oriented noutique type sirogs and strouldtherefore generate ulov,r keyu deliverry neeas,- ttre noron A&ninis-tration has addressed ttre contrcl of deriveries in the core Areaand no traffie wtrictr aonfliets with the ecisting procedure Isanticipated for the ocmrcrqial spaces. the vetricie penetraLiongenerated by the 3 proposed residential un-its will be restrieted.to occupant delivery on1y, as it is our interrtion to persue appnoval of the eLimination of required pa.rking on thl site r,*rictrrrcul-d be inoonsistant with the rnajorier bt hrifairqs in the centralvil-IaEe oore. 1650 East Vait Vailey Drive / Vait, Cotorado 81657/(303)476 -26a7 tr tr 3. ..STREETSEAPE FRFi}IETiORK Since this pa:oposal en@q)esses one @rner of a rnajor, if notrthe rnajor intersection rrp th" Ccnrnercial Oore Ore area, we intend 6- add to the street r'l-lfe" by eliminating the ecisting r:nsightly "taek-ontr add:itions along the Gore Creek Drive side of the nuifaing and replacing tJren w"ith nerar ccnnerciaL actlvity generating slrops.a residential errttY arxl sinpl-ifying the br:sy, r:n.interesting facadevfiidr e<ists surrently. 4. sREEr ENCroStfiE B. ltre rrortdoor Rocm'! nndified by thls proposal is nnde nore interesting by rrarTing the buiJ-ding edge and creating a more pedestrian scalealong the :rcads fronting this buildfutg. Ttre bay wj_ndcrr.r elsrents added to the eastern facade of the Casfup BuiJ-dling will harire thepotential of strop mn-ings and signage to create further pedestrlan focus. 5. \+,RmT m@ oonsistent with tlre desire arnl existance of a strorg, welL definedstreet edge' this prcposal prorides seperlate bub accessable differen-tiation of pedestrlan and vehicr:1ar spaces. 6. "BUII,DING HBTGIT TtLe building height as proposed, though sJ_ightly raised, fal_Ls well\,',:ithin the 38 foot height aLlcmed to the oriap"Gt of ttre roof with:inthg footprint of alL pontions of ttre buildinq, Ttre slight increase and reLocation of the ridgeline shoul-d pose no vjer,r oorridor prcbl-ensfron adjacent buildings. rhe buiLdtng to ttre south of the casirnBttilding uril-l- sttl-l- hsve a trigher noof line tfran that pnoSnsed rndentliis concelrt, 7. FqF rong viors of najor or minor sigrnificane will- not be altered andshort streetscape viors fron sturor:nding buildirrgs shoul-d be enfrancedby raroval of "elzesoretr structures and tl'e peaestrian scale of theplroposed addition. . ZCI,iING CODE ITE$'IS 1. "Dmlslry.acnwRo]-, Iot Area -..179 Acres = 77g7,24 Mlcwabl-e GRFA - 6237,792 sq; ft, Achral- GFA - 63X7,911 sq. ft. Alloviable no, rrnits - 4.475 (et 25 r:nits,/aee) Acfuel no. units - 3.0 -2- 2. 3. . IfiNDSCAM AREA REDT]CIrICT{ Ttre site currently has rrirtually no landscaped ereasf so a reduselcnis ilposslble, hcnrwer, we do intenil to paronride nenr l-andscaping areas, PARKING Parking and loading requirererrt o<erption will be sougiht, on tfe basis of eristing eondLbions anal in tlrc interest of the pedestrian nature of tlre ocrmercial core area. l-. mFs a, Roof form wiLt be a gabled lcrr pitctred roof with an ridge acis, h. Roof pitctr r'rtll" rsnain consistent with the *isLtttE 2\,/I2 c, the rmf srrerhangs wilL renain clcnsistent l.rith ttre overhangs of appn:cxinately 3 to 6 feet on aLL edges, d. Ttte noof ocnposltlon wj.l-l- rsnain varied and intereslirq the r"oof slnpe.s wiLl- be reduced and sirrpJ-ified by tlre redin rurber acfiieved wtren tlre ecistingr tt!ssl<64rt strustures rqcnzed. e. The site does not warrant any roof steps due to changes in lj tr the e<lsting steps crr:rently incorporateit in the Vallq,r portLon of the buif.dirq wiLl- rsnain" f. Material-s wtll- be primarily a built rrp roof r,cith giravel tothe eristing roof, g. Ihe oonstrustion of the noof witl be scnenrat dependent eonditions tnccnrered wtren the exlsting roof is erposedconstruction. Our intent at this time is to l-eave athe noof as it orists and rnatctr it wlth the ng,r Hcffe\rer, tf o<isting @nditions watrant, $re nny be forcedre-rmf the entire bui-lding with nqnr rnaterials, Tf this we will consider the addition of old-roof tectrniques andalternative rnaterials. fn any event, proper gutters with tapes will be utilized as reqr:i::ed. 2. FACAMS a. The predcrn:inant rnaterial of the facade will be stalcco, or stucco like finistr rnateriaL. Secordarv materials will_ bein the form of brid< pa:vers, gLass at w-indcnvs and doors,for trim and dec:k railings Of w:roughA. inon, Ccnrnercial may lrary bet$/een spaces, hcnrever, ttre sane or sirnilar be utilized. wood facades -3- will ta tr b.The prirtn4r color to be used on the stueco wilL be wtrite or anoff vfiite. Wbod trim wil-1" be darker tones cr:rqrl_ifl€ntary to thestuc@ color selected. Ilre transparencY of the ccrmercial spa.ces wil_l be gneater thanthe utrper floor resl-dential floors, Wlrdms wil_l- rnaj_ntain a hunan scale and ctnraster, d. Strop and residential_ wirdCI^rs wil_L rsratn oonsistent w"ith thecfnracEer of tbe ccnnercial- core area. strlqltittal- may varlz wtren shop spaces areirtent w:ill- be "{Bintained. strctrtn in tiis , hoerzer, the lrcated the building aslife belclll. open appearance , the business of due e,Doors w-i1l be treated in a manner consistent th ttre character arr1 nature of the paoposed uses within the and in oonformance with tlre rrrban desiqn f . Pncrninent vrood trirn wll_l be utlized to the windcrarc anddoors of the building especial-ly at the lsper ff[rfterc-ial ? spaces. .tsAICCNiES a. Baloony oolor wilL oontsast w"ith ttre waLl oolor andwil-} be ttre ,sante or actrpl_inentrlf to ttre ottrer trim ool-ors, b, Upper baLoonies wilt be of a useBble size andto take adrrentage of the liflited sun afforded wel-L as ttre orientation to tlre viq,,rs and c. the bal-rcny raLJ.ings r"ril_l general_ly have abut w:l.l-L nct be or:rnte Ln natr:re. e. $ryporLing deck msnbtrs may be e><trrressed, e<posed joist rs$ers wilL be csvercd, 4. \DEC!(s AT{D PATI6 prirnarily to Ltre lack of $rr orientation, irrqrropec.the qual-ity of the eeerience furearted by the pfrys space even thoush it p:rouided a good relationship lpacgs. and physieal" separation fircrn tlre @estrian d, Vtuo':ght iron will be the nnin finish rnateriaL on tlte baloonies. lhe ocisbiag patio vns one of the least utilized the Core Area, and properties of the other rredestrian , Itris space willbe eliminated ard hecccne prirnarily circuiation in natrrre. ACCENI ELEMENTS Accent elenents r,,rill beunbrellas, shop sigrnge, incorporated in the form graphics and flooer 5. -4- armings, deck tj tr 1 6. LFINDSESPE ETEMENIS a. Ttpu$ very f.iiruited jn arrailable locations decidr:ous trees are interded in serzeral" localions qr tlre east ard west sides of the buil-ding and anrn:al- col-or fLcniers in pLanters. b. Paving naterial-s wil-l rpst Likely be brick pavecs csrsistenL vrith surrourdjJlg areas, ani proposed rederrelopnent pavins, (llr-Ls must be coordinated urith al_]_ concerned,) c,. The otly retairring walls of any fuportance wil_l be add::essed alongthe al-I-ey develo5rnent with all- concerned. Tlie @estriaa/vehicul-arselnration wil-l- bet adrLeved ffirough parring and elevatlon differences. d. r.iShting r,yilL be de\reloped in conjrrreLion wittr ttre strop spaces and.wilL also be util-ized adjacrerrt to the residerrtiaL street ent4z" Signage wiLL also be clereJ.qed in conjrrrceion witi the rrariousslnps and onsistent with tlre Tcnrn of VaiJ. sigrr ordinancres, fl wilL eyentual-ly be acccnpdated in the proposd co:re area joi::t ccnpacEor when realized, Terant and strcp trash will- be internaLlvated. It m:st be noted that the anount of trash generated be substantiaLly reduced fron the existlnq frmctions by theof the bar and restarrrant facil-iti_es. No bars o,r iti.ningrts are antl.cipa.ted or deqred desjreable by the cniners -5- lj tr BRTD@ S'IEm'I/@FE,CBffi DRT\E N+TEFFAry Tt is tlre lntent of ttr:is prrcposal_ that t}te apparent fireortanoe of tlr-i.sbuilding, due to its l"ocation and rnarketabil"ity, be recognized, alevel-qed and enhanced. with this fact. in nrind, the buiralirq facades oriented toboth Gore c:reek Drirze and Bridge street w"irl be redeveloped, eJ.iminatingthe Beyesores", ard in onjunction with the furproverents being persued - by tlle Tcn"rn of vail ccntrnvrity Developrent staff, the crcrrnereiaL-strnces and ecterior ci::ctrlation patterns will- be rnore direcLly oriented to trre Gore creek Drivefiridge stgeet intersesbiur, aLrorrilg a free flcrr ofpedestrian traffic both aLong tlre street frcntages arxi across ttp sEreetto adjacent oonrercial- accivitles. Witlr the proposed ctranges in functionard architectural treatrents, these facades sfroula becore nrcre pedestrian oriented i:r scal-e, transparenclz and focal interest. t Allcnnble - slc4>irg Foof 38t-0r' A*ual- - Majw Roof Plffrle 3"1 r-5tt, l{inw Boof Plarre 34t-4r' All"qpabl"e * 25 unitslace - ,179 x 25 = 4,475 unLts Actrral * .179 acres * 3,0 lrdts GRFA alLcnnbLe - 6237.792 Sq. Ft, @FA Act|EL * 63L7.9:ll Sq. tt', a t3 IIEIGHX DENSTIY OChSIROL \' lmn box 100 vail, colorado 81657 (3031 476-5613 department of community development August 19, 1981 T0: Rick Baldwin, Pierce, Baldwin and Associates FROM: Departrnent of Connnun ity Devel oprnent/Peter patten SUBJECT: Staff Review of Casino Building project 0n Tuesday, August 18, the Planning staff reviewed your most recent subnittalfor the remodel of the casino Building, aad we have the foltowing concerns, comrnent s and questions which we would like to have you address as soon aspossible. The following are our concerns: l. The exterior landscaping appears to be quite minirnal . }Ve feel somethingnore substantial would be rnore suited to the property. 2. The plans are confusing in two respects. First, the plans should identifyexactly what?s existing and whatts proposed- -standard procedure on a renodel . secondly, there are several praces where there are conflicts between elevations and floor plans )i.e. doors shown on floor plans andnot on elevations or vice versa). 3. As I discussed with you in your office at last neeting, the height require- ment is not the 38r as it says in the CCI Zone District. The heightrequiren6T is found in the urban Design Guide plan for Vail village.This is found on page B of the Design considerations for vail villageard the rule is as followsl - 1. At least 60% of the site coverage area should not exceed jOr inheight. 2. No rnore than 409o of the site coverage area nay be hi.gher than S0r,not to exceed 40r. I would like to have the proposed building anaLy zed with respect toheight regulations. I still have a feeling that a height vaiiancegoing to be required and we need to find out irunediately. Your GRFA figures are indicating that the proposed GRFA is over the Why is this proposed when no variance has 6een applied for? A these is maxinum. 5. Mrat is your proposal for utilizing Town of Vail property? Review of casino Ul -r- s/Ls/Br Has there been comnunication with John Donovan and l"trs. Hill concerning how your proposal is affecting their property? Their input needs to be obtained soon. What is the lighting and paving plan for the alley area and for the Casino Building? We would like rnore detail on the proposal for Donovants corner (patlo area) , 9, More definition of the space on the Southwest corner of the first levelis needed. 10. Who pays and what are the arrangement s for irnproving Pistachi"ots entrance as proposed? 11. rtre improvernent s around the building, including those near Donovanr sare the responsibility of the developer, not the Toun. r need responses to these items as soon as possible, r would li-ke to writethe Staff review on Monday, August 24 and these concerns should be addressedby you on or before that date. Thanks for your pronpt attention. 6. d, '''*",lli?HHlff ;glif#"tli 1000 S. Frontage Roi vArL, coLoRADO 81657 LETrrilfD F TRANS nfr rrrAL TO (303) 476.4433 tr Shop drawings ! Copy of letter THESE ARE TRANSMITTED as checked E For approval\., F(for your use D As requested X-t review and comment ! D FOR BIDS DUE Plans E Samples - WE ARE SENDING VOU VnXsqhed tr Under separate cover via the following items: tr SpecificationsE Prints I Change order n tr belou,: E Approved as submitted D Approved as noted fl Returned for corrections ! Resubmit-copies for approval tr Submit -copies for distribution D Return -corrected prints 19- E PRINTS RETURNED AFTER LoAN To Us REMARKS COPY TO SIGNED: PRooutrz{o3 @hc, cm!., ts' ol{50 lf emfoiuror rr€ not 13 ,roaed, kindly notrtt/ rra at t piorco. boldwin crnd ossocicr[es, inc. orchitocture . plonning 1-4 Au$Ft l-981 I5b0IAf,IVE ffiISTRUCTIO{ SCIMUf,E 17 Augnrst 1981 - @in interior clean-rp and dsnclition. 15 septerber 1981 - octajn Phase r Building perdnit and beqin oonstruction, I Decsrdcer l-981 - frrplete Phase r construclion and ::elease strop qlaoesto ourners for interior case*racrk and finish instaLlation. 20 Dececrber 1981 - *rops open for Christmas business, 12 ap,ril 1982 - cbtain Plrase 2 Buirding permit and begin construqllon. 1000 south frontoge rood u,rast . voil, colorodo 81657 n3/476-4433 ,, ,- -- j{*n- , 'o. @"../"*{"-ij -/' -. u,tii .-a-$d.-,< o '.' ,- 4 .1 ri-"t *.' /. ( t: ,*-i,' ','.( t'r.-, / (t t*-( ,t*;,!.y. ., ',i. r,,. : ..'!'; t'*.;^u'..'-. .i ' n''- ,i^:'4:.-- t/ s, \-f,. I $\ (BS$IO BUILDnG LIPDATFJ) lt4itg: .22 July 23 July 14 Ji[y 26 July 37 July 3l July ', -\( :?8,129 /rry SUB,}IIT:ln$QDlllcTlffi' Ilyder ConstrustionSet up neetinq with Contr',ector and StrusEr.rral Hnqireer Continue to narket buildinct Don C'algan l,leeting with Drn Grlgan, Tcn^rn of Vail & Al'chj.tcct to djscuss prrlgl:ess A.l so to <liscrrs-;r; wit-lr llrn Cia lgan tenant problerns . Pi.erce, Balcluirr & Assoc. Ccnplete first preliminary drerwirgs Pierce, Balclwin & Assoc. |&eting witi tlyder and engineers to <liscuss dannl-i tion, antl ns.r conslrrc-tion technicnres. Fierce, Balclwirr & Assoc, Sutnut preliminary drar.rings to Tbwn of Vail Bui ldinq Insrxctor Pieroe, Balclwil & Assoc. )l July Continue on dr:.ewings a fter reviq,v with Don Gal-gan via pa.rtners t ctnrents - flexico trip t .. J,tfi Augr:st ln,""'i Begir denrrlitj.on r,ork i.f at a1l possible' -..-.---.---_ lo J Pt't7 C);e2..l,"r areP'7cd Permission frcrn Ttwn oi: Vail t.o dsnclish f.rm Galgan Pierce, Balc*uirr & Assoc. Hyder Cons tructi on i.,t//! /:.i /t)(r- a ^J D(-4iJJ llave appr:ovals fn:rn To^,n of Vail^ Pierce, Balcbrirr 6 Assoc. / rl) Arqust Cbtain partial burldin'; permit Picr:ce, Balctrin & Assoc. CASINO BUII.DING ***"QT o).tuilr 20,1981 15 Ostober l. Decsber 20 Decs'.ber: Don e'al--qan Don C,al gan ,yStrould have crynrercial spnr:eqrsclc--.,or fina].izcd reqardinrr t- anants___/ Continue on rrore refinecl draringsfor final buildinq r:erruit Nevr shcp Omers take s.pa.ces Ne.l shop cr^lrers open for Christrurs busiless Pierce, Balclwin & Assoc, PLANNII.IC AND ENVIRONMINTAL Monday, June 8, COMMISSION AGTNDA l98l 3:00 p. m. 't. 2. 2:00 p.m.STUDY SESSION Gore Val'l ey Water Issues Approval of minutes of May 26, l98l. A request for a variance to build on a slope in excess of 40"1, anothervariance to build within a set-back on lots A-l and A-2, Lionsridge, between sandstone Drive and L'ions' Ridge Loop. Applicant: AAV LimitedPartnership. Application for a density variance'i n gross residential floor area inorder to build a duplex on Lot 'l2, Block 47, Casolar Vail iI at ll0lVail View Drive. Applicants: McDonald, Catoe, etc.,pensjonRetirement Trust. Pre'l iminary review of ccl and cclI urban Design Guide plan projects l. Hill Bujlding additions 2. Lodge at Vail, swimming poo'i enclosure and restaurant addjtion, 3. Casino Building remodel 4. Concert Hall Plaza Building, .i nterior and exterior remodel 5. Ljonshead Gondola Building, add office space and convert 3 offjcesto coml'nercial . 6. Lionshead Study Area No" 5 Published in the Vajl Trail June 5, l9Bl. 3. 4. ll t; Mayor Rod Sl i fer and the Vail .Towri Council 75 S. Frontage RoadVajl, Colorado Dear Mayor Slifer and Members of the Town Council; I write this letter as an appeal to the recent approval of the building planned to be erected between Garton's (The Casino Building) and Donovan's (The Plaza Building). This appeal js of the decision made to approve the building by the Vail Planning and Environmental Commi s s'i on . The Planning and Environmental Conrnission and I are 180% apart whenit comes to this walkway. I would like the opportunity to meet withthis Board and discuss the future of this wa'l kway. Thank you for your consideration of my appeal. Si ncerely, f .k 0 (-rJdhn F. Donovan June 4, l9Bl ,' ,.- , . . lepberl 'gr. i_le:.idyl,-Q',tj9il .-.. ;.;= 1;. '" :.',iF",1_S;i; .::"--. ' -* '' - .:": r - -' ': : ' r. .*:; "r rii1:",' . 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J -,..1\ F:property;*{p_ ."'''.'-.:-- ' ? -?t r''_, r: 1T-:;. :'+ ..', -l;urr ?:-i:-.:,r: r-Og\ 'fti.;,', . 'i* ;fi;iii-' .r'' ',*1;!-?.1i.{.'= :i;.-:F... ;.' . _'- E- I :--- .---*.' : '-- {! .^: . ;.r. :. I . - --Jt.'-r'- .--- --. -,. \, ._. -i.;.-:;'.7--"4 .-".J-..,. . ,;..r--; .r -: ,:,. -i --^ -, , i**.i-i l.: :l r I. pfiOr:tE'__ti,ft'.?7-;/ LOCATION OF PROPOSAL ADDRESS I,NGAL DESCRTPTION (SM A TAEHM) $:l.00.00plus1B6foreachproper:tyovtnertobenoLifie<i." TMPROVEME}iT SUI1VBY OF PROPERTY S}IOWING PROPERTY LINES i$\D I'OCATION OF BT]ILDING ATID ANY IMPROVAI.UI]}JTS Oi! TI]N I.'A}iD. G. A LIST OF TFJE NA].TE OF Ob?i'{BRS OF ALL PIIOI]E.RTY AD']A'CENT TO TFIB SUB.IECT PROPEiL'lY AND 'ItlEIR i\DDIIESSIS' ri'nE .l , ,?1, .tyr *!',. II.Four:{4)ccrpiesofasiteplanconLainingtirr:fo]i]-o..vingirrforrnat-ion: A. The site plan shall. be drawn on a sheet size cf 24" x 35" at a scale of 1" = 2O'; a. va::iatio.,. oi t-he sheet size o:: scaltl nta1" be approved by i:he Commun-ity Detzelopment Dep'irr+-ment if justif ied; p*t* lapplication IvIaY 26, 19Bl APPL]CATION FORM FOR EXTERIOR AI,TERATIONS OR MODIFICATIONS TN COMMEP.C]AL CORE I {CCI) This irrocedure is requirerl for alteration of an existing building which adds or t**o,r.J any enclosed floor al:ea or outdoor paLio or i"piu".*unt of an existi-nq buil-cling sha11 be subjec{: to revi'ew by lfrl pf"ttn.ing and Envirorlrnental Commissj'on' The applicatlon rvill not be accepted until all inforniation is submitted'' A. NAME OF APPLTCANT ADDRESS Estocrc]rrc I l4exlclc 6 D.F. MFxrcO--.- PHONE--9&5=525=6591- 476-4433 B. NAME OF ApptIcANT'S REPRESENTATI-V$. Pierqe' Bald\'fin & Agsociaf€s+-Jnc* ADDRES s 1000 Sq&h lr:ontage-Boad.-ioese--lZail+-fofo---sf5'5g--PHoNE AUTHORIZASION CF PROPERTY OWilIER S]GNATURE ADDRBSS C-*-; " / B. c. AppLicati"" tlu"terior At-terarion or irtffl. ccr ee,se 2 The clate, North arrow, scale and name of the proposed development sha1l be shown on tl"re site Plan; The existing topographic characLer of the site including exisbing and proposea cont6urr. This conditic.ln will only be requred for an expansior -r.J-rft"r" thcre is a change of tvro feet of grade; The location and sj ze of all exis{-ing and proposed buildings, sl-ruc- tures and imProvements i The existing and proposed landscaping; The locatj.on of all. ei<isting and p::oposed buildingsr structures and patios or decks. The applicant shall submit in wril-Len and graphic form, a.prepondcl:ance of eviclence before the Planning and Environmental Commissj'on that: theproposa}isj.nconfortnancevritlrtlrepurposes.oftheCClDistrict and that the proposaf subsl-antially cotttpliei wiLh the VaiI Village Urban Design Guide Plan" A. If the appli-cant is proposing a major change Urban p.sigt-t Guid-e P1an, the procedures for Section L8.24.220 (B). D. E. rII. in Lhe Vail Village change are notecl in IV. The applican-b'must a.l-so submit wril-l:en and graphic sul-rpor-tlng male:rials thaL the proporii spi;s;1-antialJ-y corrrplies_r.ri,th the followi.rrg Ur:ban Design Coirsiaerai-j,ons sect-ion Lf tLrL VaiI Vil.l.arge Desi-gn Considcration' A. Pedestri-bn i za Lion B. Veiricle Pcne Lrar i:ion C. StreeLscaPe lrramcvrork D. Street Eirclosur:e E. St.reet Eclge F, Buj-lding Hcight c. Vicws H. Sun Shacle ConsidcraLion tr{any of the a}:ove i'l-ems .should'be acldressed j.n sone graphic means usi'g suc5 tool,s as slietches. simul.al-ions, Inocleis (incl-uc1ing neigbboril't buildings) . PhoLos, etc \I rt tr,:: +-L ^ r-Lllal L- Torvn of Vail- Zoning Codc for CCI erlso describcs other zonjng issues tire applican1- musi respond t--o j,n writ-t.cn o:: graphic form. r'.r nnnr .i ^ -{-.i ^r - f or ex{:crior ;rl.Lcrat j ons or nod j.f icatio:rs in CCI calr V.L. JLl]ITJ-L\-.r L-L\.,ir.-, ai-e only revier,red semi*anrrually. They need to be submj-tted before i:be fourth [{onda5' of l'lay or November. For more specifics on tire review schedule r s€e Seci:j on 18.24 .065 A-5. t a IEGAI DEtrRIPTICN Iots D and E and a part of lcts B, C and F Block 5-C, VaLl VilJ.age First filing Tbrn of VaiJ-, Corlrty of Eag1e, State of Oolorado t PLAI.IN 2;00 p.n. 1. Approval of Minutes ING A],ID ENVIRONMENTAT COMMISSION AGENDA May 26, 1981 of May 11, 1981 rneeting. 2. A request for amendnents 'to an approved deveLopment plan under Ordinance No. 13, Seri.es of 1981, to build two additional units at the Vail Internountain Srqin and Tennis Club Condoniniurns, and to redesign parking and landseaping of Lots 7 and 8,Block 4, Vail Intermountain Subdivision. Applicant: Vail Interrnountain Swin andTennis Club Condominiurns 3. Request for two side setback variances for the Storey/Oglesby residence located onLot 13, Block 5, Vail Village 1st Filing to construct two additions to the resi-' dence. Applicants: Charles p. Storey and Enslie Oglesby, Jr. 4. A request for approval of Special Development District 1f and the vacation of 1otlines thereof for an area of Highland Meidows Subdj,vision, Filing No. 1, Lots 26through 42. Applicant: Sun Tech Builders, Inc. 5. Request for a conditional use permit under Section 18.24.030 C of the Tor,rn of Vailzoning code, to operate a beauty shop on the street level of the Golden Peak House.Applicant: Karl Hoevelmann. 6. Continuance of an application for exterior alteration or nodification in CommercialCore I, to allow an office building t.. . be constructed on the 2nd and ird levelsof the alley betlteen the Plaza and Casino Buildings, leaving the street level openfor pedestrian traffic. Applicant: pamela Telleen. 7. Request for amendnents !o the density control section of the zoni.ng code th€tthe second uni.t shall not exceed 40% of the total Gross Residential Floor: Ar-ea(currently this figure is 33 L/3%) allowed on the lot in the P/S residential districAlso, lots in the residential district containing less than 15,000 square feet ofsite area shal1 not have a second unit exceed 40% of the toal GRFA allowed on theIot. In addition, lots in the residential district with development proposals wherethe average slope beneath the structure and parking area is in ixcess- of S0% sha11not have a secondary unit exceed 40% of the iotal GRFA a11o"ed on the lot. 'fi-rese changes would result in a new 60/40 allocation of GRFA wherever the 66/3j allocationpresently is in effect. Applicant: peter patten, Town of Vail. B. A request for anendnents to Sections 18.12,090 and 18.13.080 concerning the processand criteri-a for granting exceptions to the density control regulations in theResidential and Prinary/Secondary Zone Districts for lots of less than 15,000 squareso that these lots nay receive a secondary unit for ernployee housing use.Applicant: Peter patten, Town of Vail or PLANNING AND ENVIRONMLNTAL COMMISSION MEETI}TG l,lay 26, 1981 PRESENT Scott Edwards Gcrry lrhite Dan Corcoran IJuane Pi.per later: Roger Tilkemeier Jin Morgan Gaynor lr,Iil1er Tlie meeting was called to order at ZtI} p.n. by oo STAFF PRESNNT Dick Ryan Peter Jamar Larry liskwith Larry Rider tsetsy 116561""tr COUNCIL-PRESENT Bob Ruder Gerry l'rhite, ch:ii.rnan. Dan Corcoran rnoved for approval , seconded iry Duane, Vote was j_0. Scott a.b_s ta ined . 2. A feqUesl fnT e r.rrr.rr dmar.lf e +^ ah a6,ar^r,^,1 r^ar,\.r^,.,-^_a _r^-.ffi;-f+#dt+#;3,,#111q r I 3, svrim and rennis club condonriniums, and to redesign parkrrrg ald randscal:ingof Lots 7 and B, Bl0ck 4, vail Iniermouutajn s,:brtivl-s.ion. Applicant,: vairInter:mountain and Sivin and Tennis Club Cnn,Jonriniuns. Di'ck Ryan presentecl the metno and aclded that the -staff had checkecl the size andconfirmed 5'1 acles. IIe arlded that in cliscussing thjs uith the Town counci i,they stresse d that they dicin't want io upprolr* additional units unless the rarits -wele to b9 f9r enployees. tle statecl th:ri-undcr the presenf zoning, no addj.tionalunits could be addeci. The question about the enor taade in surveying was di,-sc r.rr; -s ed, sonre rrentle's fe.!.tthat l;he aprrl j.cants could have had lnc:..e units originalJ y r,;hcn tire e.r:ro:: ua-sdiscovered, other:s feeling th.rt this <iid not change thc issue now, n.- the irr tnoved for: approv.l of the rerrisions of thc p*lking tot and randscap.r'g pernieno of l,{ay 6, 1931. Scott sectrnded it, iur <I lhe vote r.ras 4_t), urrarrinou-sfavor . It'lore <iiscr-rss ion forlorvecl with the realization that the appl.icants cou1d c()netrack and ask for a vai:.i'nce., r,,hich they were not croing irt present, arrcl trri-scould be a way to corJ:ect the error, and rvcl.I a.s a ti;c to cone into confornritywj.th respecl: to hav ing rno::e than 4 Urrits it.r onc building, i\,ith fc-rpect tostreanns i.cie set bircks. ctc. rr(rl L\t , a ;r(, r o I al units requestcd by 13, 1981. The vgte denied. Gerry moved and Scott seconded to deny the two addition the applicants in accordance wi-th the staff ncmo of May was 3-1, Dan Corcoran voting against. The request was 3. ,,Request for a side setback variances for the Storey/0gle:.by residence ffi]B-G itions to the residence. Applicants: Charles Storey and Enslie 0g1esby, Jr. Peter Jamar explained the plans and explained that this was part of a rol house. Andy Beck nentioned that all was explained in the memo. Dan moved and Duane seconded to approved the request for: the side setback variance per the staff rnerno dated May 20, 1981. The vote was 5-0, unaninous, 4-r A_Iequest for approvql of Special Development District 11 and the vacationof lot I ines thelcof for an at'ea of Hjghland Meadorvs Subdivision, F j-ling No. 1, Iots 32,38, 59, 40 alj'd 42. Applicant; Sun Tech Buiiders, Inc. Dick Ryan reninded the commission that ihey had reviewcd a request for lots 26 thru 42 atptevious stridy sessions. He added that the developers had spent much time with the staff and wj.th Gage Davis and he felt that the presentsite plan r'ras nuch superior. The staff recomrended approval rvith the conditionslettered A through I. Roger Denton, a landscape architect for the project shorved several sketches^€ thr :-i*. rnl r:..:'.:l-rci q'-'.c:tions. It was felt that the impact of thc F-^j^^"had been -r'ed.iceii, bttt thete were several questions about the height of sonteof the buildings, ancl how wcl1 they would be hiclderr b1'the trees. He addedthat they had no problens with items of condition, A thru I. Dan rnoved and Roger seconCed that the Special Developlicnt Di.strict be approvedwith the condj-tions stipulated in the staff merno dated trIay 14, 1981. The vote was 6-0,(with Gaynor abstaj.ning) for approval . 1.. ngqlltf-ff-e-tof,litionat use permiL unclel__:s-e_..t&iLl8__.2a.030 c of the Torrnof Va.il zoning code, to operats a neauty s-lioton flicffi Golclcn Peak House, Applicant: Karl Hoevelrnann: Di.ck Ryan explained that this issue had been before, the Connission and bhe Totr,n Courcil several tines, and both groups irad approved an amcndment to the zoning code that would pe::mi.t by conditional. use review, barbcr and beautl' shops without extcrior frontage in CCI. Hubert l{einshank, repr€senting Nlr, Floevelnanl, subnittcd a letter from RonRiley, prcsident of thc Board of Dircctor-s of thc Condo Association statingtltat they had dropped their: opposition to the bcauty shop. Ilc ad<lcd that a coupl e of owners of thc concloniniums were opp6sgd, but tjt;rt the a.ssociation 45 4 whL-rl c was not. Discus-sion fol lovc<l conccrning vcnti lat j.on and odors.It was finally dccidcd that this t/as a rnattcr for the contlo association ancifor the buildi-ng ctcrpartment of thc Town. -'lY PIlc -3- Mar 26, ! O oo Roger noved and Jin seconded to approve the condit,ional use permit per the staff memo and cautioning the applicant to nonitor odor. The vote was 7-0, unanirnous. 6. Continuance of an application for exterior alteration or modification in--_....'...---_'......-.--Comrnercial Corc T, to aIlow an ofTicc-E[ilTir,g ffi and Srd levels of the a1 ley between the Praza and casino Buildings, leavingthe street level open for pedestrian traffic. Appricant: pamela Telleen. Dick prescnted the memo, rernindi.ng the Conmission that on March 9, there rrra sa public hearing to bui-]d a 3 story building on the site, and that now theapplicati.on had been changed, although the orj.ginal application was appealedto the Torr'n Council. The changed application would leave the passage- way betweenthe plaza and Bridge Street. The Staff was concerned that the spacJ fox pedestrianswould not be used because thc height was only i0 ft & the a1ley is vety n?rrrow.'l'here was nuch discussion of the problern of obtaining a clear title. Larry Ri<ier explained the situation, saying that in r:eviewing the title, he founda number of clouds of title, and that one rcstriction in a deed was t'unfettered ingress and egress to thc Plaza and that therc be no pernanent structure builtin that area." In looking further., he found that the surveys didn rt natch.l'le suggested that the applicant be asked to show clear tit1e. lle added thatPistachlors and the Lodge encroach into the area. Bill Post representing the applicant stated that the ohners have a xight touse what they own. He added that one stipula.t.ion for the original plan rvasto have a saf e ard att:ractive walkr.ray, and at present it was ne j.thei saf enor attr:a.ctive " He a.l so f elt the appl icant couro De requrreci ro post a bonoso that if the project was stoppcd, there vrould be'o "ip"nse to ilie Tor.rn. Larry added that the Town nust be certain that the apr;licant was indeed theOrrner. Certy stated that they could pr:occcd rrith the r,,,st of thc licalinl; ; sto whcthel or not this was a suitable structure, but one conditj-ona1 coulclbe added that the applicant nust have a clear title. Roger sai-d that he .xeprescnts vA, and that they would. not take sicles. : John Perkins showed the plans and elevations and answer:ed questiols concelningroof drainage, Pistachiors door, lighting, etc, parn Tell een said trrat pista-chio's hacl opposed the first presenlation bccai.rse of the int.errr-rption of theirbttsinss, but were for thc preient one because it would elimilate the leak overthe ir sta irrr'a.y . John Perkin-s also added that the shops alor-rg tlic a11cy rr,ould. be encourage toplace winciows onto the alley, helping the allcy to be ncle inviting. pam rqasaskcd if it rvas her inter-rtion to continue thc rralkway to the praz,r. sheresponded that she wor.rld contr:ibute hcr: share, lvhatevlr that may be. Boh l{uderfelt that snortr an<i ice would still get into the rr,alkwa"y. []isctt-ssion follorvcd concerning thc co]tstructiolr rcstrai.nts a:rcl interruptionof l{all Str:ect tr::rffi.c. Geuy reacl the thr:ee conrlitons ancl pan 'felleen stateclthat she agreed to all of thcm. .t PFC -1- trlay 26, Ct O oo Gaynor movcd that the application be approved with the reconmendation nadcpart of the approval. He felt that the building was important to the area,that they would sti11 have a walkway fron Bridgc Street to Wall Street.. Scott felt they should add that the clear t.itle must be shown as a 4th condition. Dick Ryan stated that in talking to the Town council, he was instructed notto issue a buildJ.ng permit until a clear title was shown. Gaynor wanted to add another condition to his rnotion, that of requiring a bond to protect the 'i'own. Duane Piper seconded the motion, and the vote i.n favor of gr.anting thepermission for the a.lteration was S-0, with Roger and Dan abstaining. The moti.on pa ss ed . 7. Request for anellCrnent s to the density control section of the zoning codetnat ttle second unit shal I rrot excccd 40e, of thc total Cross ResidentialFloor Area (cdrrently this figure is 3s L/s%) allowed on the lot in theP/S Residential District. A1so, lots in the Residential District containingless than 15,000 squ3Te feet of site area shall not have a second unit exceed 40% of the total GRFA a1 lor,red on the 1ot. In addition, lots in the rcsidentialdistrict wi.th development proposals whereby the average slope beneath thestructure and parking area is in excess of 30r" shall not have a second.aryunit exceed 40% of the total GRFA allowed on the lot. These changes wouidresult in a new 60/40 allocation of GRFA where.rer the 66,/33 allocation t-$^-^..+I.' .:^ :- ^f!:^-L Peter Jamar explained the nemo, and discussion of the various aspecLs fol1owed.Scott noved that they follow the staff recoirunendation to recorp-nend anendnentsto Sections 18.15.080, 18.12,090 and 18.69,050 of tle zonrng code that the secondaryunit shall not excecd 4Ae, of the total GRFA a1 lorcecl, and, 2) amenclment to section18.12. C50 to reduce tl're ntinj-murn lot size in the (RJ Rsictcntj iil District to15,000 square feet ol' buildable site area from 17,500 square feet. Dan Corcoranseconded the nrotion, and the vote hras 7-0 in favor. 8- Reqcst for.aryendnrents to sections 1g.12,090 arrd 1g.1j.0g0 of the zoning_---_codc cotlcernlng the process arrd cri.teria for granting exccpti-ons to the densi-tycontrol regulatirns in the Residcntial (li) antl Pri mary /Se con.l"r,y Residential(P/S) Zone Distrj.cts for' Iots of less than I5,000 sqriare feet so tira.t :r secorrdaryrurit rny be constructed on these lots for the p,,tiroie of euqrloyee housing. Peter Jamar explained w.lry the staff felt the.se changes were importalt- Dick revierr'ed the process of the application: I . Apply to DIIB 2' After the dccision, thc Staff will m:rke certain thc unit r+ill bc enDlot'eehousing. 3' A wrj-tten Irotice tvill bc sent to thc I)liC, so the PIC can revjer,; and if thcy don rt agrco, the Pllc cilr appeal the <lccis.ion of eithcr thc staff o:: DRB.4. Applicant or adjacr.:nt propclrt)r oh,nel- can apircal to plJC. ao Concern was expressed over the condition that no variances be allowed, and this was discusscd at length. Variances can be granted only if it benefits the visual appearance of the sitc and surrounding area. Also discussed was the fact that L/2 of the cars must be cnclosed. Tom Briner stated that he had brought a project to the DRB the previous week when he took issue with the requirement for covered parking for 1/2 the cars and wondercd if havj.ng only one space for the employee housing would be enough parking. The Comnission nenbers felt that there were very rarely only one person living i"n each employee uhit, and that two spaces were defini-tely needed. Dick added that cars had been considered an eyesore in nany previous discussions. Dan noved and Duane seconded to approve the recornmendation of the staff that Sections 18.12.090 and 18.13.080 be amended concerning the process andcriteria for granting exceptions to the dcnsity control regulations, etc. as statedin the meno dated l'lay 2I, 1981 . The vote was 6-0, unaninous" (Jin Morgan had 1eft.J The neeting was adjourned at 5:00 p.n. IoPiiC -5- May 26, 198I ffi q 9--a3t:trr]inx)1!rrr!.re:rFri+ie e$.,,F{.=c?r-1ikr}-! I ?I * DONOVAN'5 COPPER BAR P. O, BO X 60,1 VA IL, COLORADO 8I 657 PHONE 476-5209 Y\*6d3, /ql / -*lo-,-u o.*-,t rl b.trr.' ,J*y' -XA*, aya+,: trrLc--t- *r/ atA-J agAz*'-2Or#", ' ,*.% 4* .*L"n-Qn*,'z) rwna)r,-i '*/ VE",4/ -L'-'-' ,^f '-' -&ft-tt ' J'&b/y"n ,^/ zot n..ti () dru1i. t^ t-'c-l- /, _/*./ ,**//,_ Nh| /-yoo.d, $fr,t"*' ''L*'q?/te ftt ,t/*, aTpu*L 1o nnr/*u; /;*'/' ) 1" ,. ., 43tr:fr%:;;fr-:3.ry2:)'JL,*., t.". A oiiu-' -/(-'f Jo-{ }4 'vzo l*gr, "* **.-**7----tL &aol*" -t/'-""-;f *..i/t /L aat noj =-//ir*,'-l' ,r"; Ll),h**) LConooa-J PS-rJAorrla, Pfta...,.u--* "**1 loo'-* ct.y:,Vr4-^e*<t -t/"-,*"- -A*p-c,-z<.-(- J -;'J: tVo.n-.--lrd'-t ,g*ii:,-tz- -,.*/ j-; ',2;-*'. -u--*t A/* 1d' . / t DATE I ?0: FROM: RE: METORANDUM l{ay 2I, 1981 Planning and Environmental Commission Coranunity Development Departnent Public hearing and consicicration oftion for constructioir of a tr4ro storythe public 6or the Casino Buildins an Exterior Alteration and Modifica- addition with the alley open to BACKGROI]ND: The Planning and Enyironmental commissio' at their meeting on March 9thhad a public hearing to amend the Urban Design Guide plan a:rd for a tirreestory building in the a11ey between the Plaza Lodge and the Casino Building.At that meeting, the Planning and Environmental comrnissi.on by a vote of s-iapproved the plan amendment and exterior alteration and rnoclif icat ion , ThePlanning and Environmental Comnissionrs action was then appealed to Topn Council.Before the public hear_ing took p1ace, the.applica't requesterl that the pranbe resubnitted to the Planning ind Environrnintal commission. The plan beforethe Cornnission on May 26 is the revised plarl for this site. REQUEST: The applicant is requestingthat would have two f I oor-s. way to come and go from the the constructi.on of a building over theThe first floor irould continue to be a passage Plaza and Bridge .Street. VAIL VILLAGE URBAN DESIGI{ GUIDE PI-ATI The Vait Village Urban Design Guide plan connecti olr (covered) fron llridge Street .sta.tes tliat this area be'ra rnicl-b]-ockto Vi l lagc Plaza." Co_MPLI4,ICE tgrTl.t Tltli VAIL VII,r,AGE uRBrui DESIGN GI']DE PLAN AI.,ID DIjSIGN CONS,II]DMTIONS: Pedestrianization: fhe proposal does al ]ow fo' trre "mid-b1ock,, connection (covcred) froin Bri_clge streetto Villag,: Plaza" a.s notetl in the Vail Villagc Urban ttcs ign Guide plan. A coupleof concerns of the staff are steps r4t thc wcst cntry to the alley and the height.of the covcr over the a llcy. Sincc the atr 1 r:y is narr-o,.,r ru ith not a great anorntof natule j l ight, stror-rld tLcrc be moLc enclr:l;urc at thc wcst end? 'i'he viov throullirthe spacc v,'oul d a I so be interrup letl. In adri j,t. i-orr, hci 1,;li1 of the second f I oorcottld gil'c a nore crtclosed fceling wit-hin tiri..; rralrorr, ip,,.". The stsff consiclerstirat the solution pr:oposecl strll clocs not prov.idc a gooci 1:cclestrian corri-clor, Alley Project - 2 J;rt 21., 1981 Vehicle Penetration There should be very few additional vehicles entering the core because of the smal1 size of the office space. Streetscape Framework If the buiding is approved by the Planning and Environnental Cornmission, greater attention to the streetscape in front of the entire Casino building needs to be Paxt of the approval . Currently, there are drainage probleins, and the sidewalk area between the building and street should be inproveC. Brandess-Cadrnus Real Estate has rnade some improvements by adding a bench and flowers during the sunner, On the west end, the applicant will be responsible to irnprove the walkway to thebuilding from the cornpleted plaza area. Surface treatnent should be the sameas the plaza, The applicant should also be respon-sible for improvenent to thealley and the connection to the Village plaza. Street Encl osures This would not change by the addition of the structure to the alJ.ey. Street Edge No change by the proposal . Building Height t- tr*"rrt *ts the hcight requirement establj-shed in the Design Considerations, A concern of the staff is the flat roof under this prouosal . Views The proposal does not Sun Sha cl,e inpact ary view corri.dor. No irnpact because of the Plaza Lodge. &n:rg Parking: At thc timc of building perni.t, thc applrr:ar?: r.rill bc::equired to pay applice.ble i:'arking fees for the office use, conditional use: Before a bullding permit i-s ussue<i, the applicant will need apprctval of a conditonal use request to pcrnrit office sp;i.ce on the sccgnC f1oor. Allcy Project - 3 -fr et,'1981 Architectural and LandscaPing The exterior design will be reviewed by the Design Review Board to deternine compliance with the Vail Village Design Considerations. Legal Consideratipnq The Town attorney still does not consider that the applicant has clear title to the property. BLfore a building permit is issued, this must be shown and approved by the To$,n attorney. RECOMMENDATION The Cornrnunity Development Departrnent recommends denial of this request. Every space in Vail Vj.Ll.age does not need to becone a buildj.ng, and there is a better solution to the pedestrianization of the alley. ltlhen the a1ley is improved there needs to he a solution to insure use b1, the pedestrian. If the Planning and Envi.ronmental Corunission approves the request, the following conditons should be placed on the approval . That the applicant and owner agree: 1. To participate in and not remonstrate against a special improvement district if one is forned for Vail Village^ 2. To improve the alley to Town of Vail standards including necessary lilhting and .improve the area to the Village plaza, 5. To work with ottrer or',,ners of the Casino building to improve the draining prob- len along their sidewalk on Bridge Street. "l PLAI,INING AI{D ENVIRONI"iENTAL COMMTSSION August 31, 1981 PRESENT STAFF PRESENI Gerry lfhite Roger Tilkemeier Dan Corcoran Duane Piper Jim Morgan COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE Ron Todd meeting was ca1led to order at 2:00 p.n. by the chairman, Gerry white. 1, App:gval of minPtes of July 27, 1981. Dan corrected a statenent he had nade concerning the Hopkins item to read thathe felt that the Tovm was gaining by lt{r. Hopkins building enployee units.Roger Tilkeneier hadnrt been listed in ,'nember.s presentr', Dan moved and Jin seconded to aPprove the ninutes with those corrections, The vote was 5-0 in favor. lnt4ent of nernber to DRB neetinss for 3 months, After discussion, Roger rnoved and Dan seconded to appoint Duane to DRB for Sept,Oct, and November' Dan voltmteered to take the nexi-5 onths--Decenber, Jaauaryand February. The vote was 4-0, Duane abstaining. 3. Request for a minor subdivision of lotr lf..ti I, Vaii Vil Cona Peter Patten showed the site plan and explained that everyone thought that theparties involved had taken care of the ninor subdivision Lefore Ipanena was constructed.Dan added that a condo map would be filed this week that would show the correctl ines . Peter Patten Peter Jamar Dick Ryan Larry Eskwith Betsy Rosolack The Jirn Morgan rnoved and Roger seconded to approve the minor subdi.vision request assubmitted in the nerno with the restriction that no additional GRFA be added.The vote r.ras 4-0 with Dan abstaining. st for a density control variance in ss residential floor area incordance wit tion 18.60.in order to 4. a sun roonl to unit 9, 5, Block G, VaiI Das ail Fil ingSchone, tr/'ry '$t .t I"vy /\' cr'il' " {ii rWvr/ DATE: a ***Nou" t'{ay 2L,1981 Planning and Env j.ronmental Cornnission Comnunity Developroent Department Public hearing and consideration oftion for constnrcti.on of a two storythe public for the Casino Building ,r{: Q,V TO: FROM: RE: ,{i $l I J an Hxterior: Alteration and Modifica- addj.tion with the a1ley open to The ['lanning and Environmental connission at their meeting o' Marchhad a public hear:ing to amend trre urban Design Guide plan and for astory building in the alley between the plaza Lodge and the casino the nlan amendnient and Unvironncn CaL C.:m'nission by aor aLteration an CKGTIOUND: Planning andTnv ronnen Before the public be resubmitted tothe Commission on 9th three Buil ding . ication. The appea ed to Town Council.hearing took the Pla:rning May 26 is the p11.9, the applicant requested that the plan and Environnienta.l Conrnission. The plan beforercvised plal for this site. REQUESl': The a.pplicant is requestingthat woul d have trr'o -f Loors, way to come and go frorn the the const:cuction'Ihe first floor P1aza and Bridge of a buil ding over the woul d ccn I j.nue to lie a passagc Street. VAII, VILLAGI] UIiBI}I DIiS]CN CUIDE PLAN The Vail Village Ur'Lian Desig,rr Guide P1;rn statcs that this area be,,a. mj.d-bjockconnection (covercci) fro:l llr:i dge Street to ViiLage p1aza.,, 9OiltlLI4S4JUli Ir!-VAll:-xiu-AcE URBAN DESjGli t;UIDI1 PLAN AND DESlGN C0i,{SrDlll{.,\frONS: llga 9. : t_1119*2" " r!oi1 'l'ire p::opo:;'r.1 doc:..r ai I cx'i for t-he rtnj d-b,l.ocl(,t coluection (covcrcd) fron Brlclge Streetto vi11a11c l)laztrt' irs rt r:ttec'l jn tlie v:ri1 iri.llagc url-ran Lrciign ouiiic pl.a1 . A c.u'Jeof L:ot]r:t'r'ril; cjl thc Staff itr-c steps at t_llc l{esi (rn i:t:,y to tlie a_ilc). a.n ci the hcightof the col/el c\rer the a.llcy. lc.iircc t|c al1c;, is )lilrrL\-( li,i.th nor a. grcat anror.ut tof ;ratuf ii l liglrt, :;lionld titclc be nor:c cnclosurc at the -n,cs{. cn,-ii T}te vicv,r tlrr:ouglrtltc spacc liuuld tL:io be i.n t cr r-up I cci. . hr iitlti,lticrir, l-reigirt. nf *,1,,, st,:co.,cl floorcoulil givcr a lnore cncl osc<l :l'cr: l irig w.ithiir this nri'ro,.t -ipr,...r,. T'ho sjr)aff consj.rier-.;that the 'solr-rt j.on Ir'o1;oscri st j.!. 1 iloes not plo!.i.cic] a good pcclcstr.lan corri.dor. , Allpy Prsjeer = ? = *oyer t-e81 $9hlcle Penetration:--:--:-==::: There phould be very few additisnal vehiEles entering the core because of the Enall siAe qf the gfftce spaee, $trre9ts94p9 Franework If the bUiding ig ppplqve{ by the Planning and Environmental Conrnission, greater attentian tq the Streetssape in front ef the entire Cas-ino building needs to bepaTt pf the apprgval , Crirrently, therQ are drainage problens, and the sidewalk afeA betttQelr the building 4nd gtreet shquld be irnproved. Brandess-Cacimus Real Estale haS nade gprng inrproverFQrl!$ by adding a bench and flowers during the sunmer. 0n the 1,f95t e.4d, tlre applicant will be lesponsible to inrprove the walkway to the bUildiirg f,rcn the epnpleled plaaa area, Surface treatment should be the sane aS the p.\AZA, T|e appliEant Shguld algg be responsible for iurprovenent to thealle), aud the e$neetion to the Viilage plaza. Stfeet Enclpsures Thie \rsuld not ehange by the additiea ef the strucrure to the alley. NO ehatse by the pTepqsal ,, ---esrigs=slry ff,g prqposal rneqlg the height A Qensern qf lhe staff is the dee,,s $qt irypast eny.' yiex ee.ur:idor:. l{e. lnpec.t trrqqeuse ef the P,_laaa l,sdge. lequirgment established in the Design Considerations.flat reof under this proposal . Iss Thc rrroposal $un $hade iiar\ing.: A.t the trnre of-bui!(Ung patnrt^ the applicant rsill be requi,red to pay +.FPlicoble p,illkirr.g fE,es {p+ ttr,e qffiqs o,rse. Qprrrlilioaal use:l Seforq a building pqxaiit is |ssued, thc applicant wilI need ?PPr'avei qf a condrt,qqal use ggqles.t-to, pgrnrit'offi.ce space on the second floor. A1ley Project - 3 - Uaf f rSSr Architectural and .Landscap j ng The exterior design wj.11 be reviewed by compliance with the Vail Village Design the Design Review Considerations. Board to determine Legal 9onsideration: The Torcn attorney stil l the property, Before a by the Town attorney. does not consider that the building permit is issued, clear title to shown and approved applicant has this must be RECOil'VENDATiON The Comnunitv Developncnt Departnent Tecommends denial of space in Vail Vi11age does not need to becorrte a building, solution to the pede striani zation of the a1 1ey. Wlien the needs to be a solution to insure use by the pedestr:j.an. If tlie Planning and Envi.r:onrnental Comnission approvcs the this request. EverY and there is a better alley is inproved there r:equest, the following At+ 1', J' t -,it 2t1 '1''t -fl5/ r.' 2r*P conditons should be placed on the approval . That the appl icant and orrn er agrce : 1. To pa::ticipate in and not remonstrate against a special improvernent district if one js fo::rned. fo:: Vail Village. 2" To improve the a1 ley to Tor,rn of Vail st:rndar:ds i-ncluding necessary lightilig ancl inprove the area to the Village pT.azao 3. To work with othor orr'nens of the Cas j.no building to irnprove the draj.ning plob- lem alon si,der,ialk on Bridge Streett o ,.)o APPLICANTIS RESPONSE:ALLEY PROJECT on BRIDGE STREET This is a new proposal to cover and improve the alley between the Plaza and casino Buildings in vail village. Proposed devel- opment consists of paving and upgrading of the a}le1'way at glade, ancl coverlng the walkway with two floors of office space. Each floor of office space would consist of approximately 450 square feet. The office space would be accessed from a stair at the northwest corner of the alley. It is felt that a clear soffit height of 10'-0,' would be a minimum allowable clearance for overhead. This soffit would be punctuated with recessed liqht- ing as designed by a lighting consultant. It is further hoped that new windows for display and advertisinE could be developed into the south sicle of the Casino builcling ancl the norLh side of the PLaza buildinq. Benches and limite<l landscaping are also possibilities. A. PEDESTRIANTZATTON The proposal would not close or altei: any existing pedestrian pattcrns. Tt is hoped ancl inter-,ded tlrat the proposal would make the al-l.r:ry a safe and pleagant connection from ]3ridge street to {'-h(] Plaza. Lighi:inq of the alley will bc desigrrcd to draw peoplc int.o and throuqh the tiqht space. B. c. D. !l F, 1: o VEHICLE PENETRATION This proposal will not Core I vehicular acce s s STREETSCAPE FRAMEWORK Exisling street edge the use of rnatch-ing BUlLD.TNG HETG|IT Prli I d i rro hn i crlrl- rs j l. l buiJ.ding '"vj. ll- have a \7TrlI^1C Alteration of the streetscape will be most noticeable during the evening hours. The lighting of the al1ey will let the Bridge SLreet pedestrian know that something is happening through and hopefully beyoncl the alley (i.e., Hong Kong Cafe, The Lodge, Curtin,/Hill Building, and Wall Street shops.) very l"it|le change in existing streetscape will be perceived during daylight hour:s because of the narrowness of the al1ey and the limited natural light. STREET ENCIOSURE This proposal would not appreciably alter the street enclosure of Bridqe or Wa11 Streets. STREET EDGE will be expatrded int.o the alley with pavirrg materials and lighting. affect any existing Commercial policY. be 30'-C) " f ron B::idqe S'creet. The flat brrilt*up tar and qravel roof. There are no sigrrif .i.cant vicvs throuqlr the All.ey at thjs time. Garton's deck, the Plaza l3uilclirrg cl-rimney ma$s, ;:nd t'hc anqlcs bctu'ccn the trvo builclings prolribit any view east or wesl. 'ihe proposecl off i,ces on thc lvest and east ,tvi]l- hcrve excellent views east ;rnd west. o H. SUN/SIIADE The narrowness of the Alley prohibits any appreciable sun- light. The proposed building would not alter any sun,/shade patterns significantly, I. ZONING A conditional use permit will be required for offices on a third floor in Commercial Core I. The applicant will pay ai.l applicable parking fees for Lhe office use. APPLICANT'S RESPONSE:ALLEY PROJECT on BRIDGE STREET This is a new proposal to cover and improve lhe alley between the Plaza and casj-no Buildings in vail village. Proposeil devel- opment consists of paving and upgrading of the alleyway at grade, and covering the walkway with two floors of office space. Each floor of office space would consist of approximately 450 square feet. The office space would be accessed. from a stair at the northwest corner of the alley. It is felt that a clear soffit height of 10,-0,' would be a minimum a]lowable clearance for overhead. This soffit would be punctuated with recessed lighL- ing as designed b1' a lighting consultant.. Tt is further hoped that new windows for display and advertising could be developed j.nto the sout-h side of the casino buildinq and the north side of the Plaza buildinq. Benches ancl limited landscaping are also *^^^.:1-.:1 .: r-: ^^},\ ' 5:r.L! l !_L LJ CJ. A. ]]EDESTRIANI ZATTON The proposal would noL close or alter any exislj-ng1 pedestrian patterns. Tt is hoped and intencled that the pi:oposal would nake the alley a safe and pleas;ttl- colrr:ectiou from T3ri.dge SLreet to the P-l.aza- l,ight.inq of the a11.ey wil} be desi.gned to d::avr people irrto and through tl:e tiqht space. B. c. D. a) VEHICLB PBNETRATION This proposal will not affect arry existing Commercial Core I vehicular access policy. STRBETSCAPE FRAMEWORK Alteration of the streetscape will be most notieeable during the evening hours. The lighting of the al1ey will 1et the Bridge Street pedestrian know that something is happening through and hopefully beyond the al1ey (i.e. ' Hong Kong Cafe, The Lodge, Curtin/Hill Building, and Wall Street shops. ) Very 1itt1e change in existing streetscape will be percei.ved during daylight hours because of the narrowness of the a1ley and the limited natural light. STREET ENCLOST]RE nol appreciably alter the street. or Wall Streets. I. (: This proposal would enclosure of Bridge STREET EDGE Existing street edge the use of matching DUTI,DI}]G HETGIIT ilrli l ri i rrrr hr'i nht railf building vrill- have a vlui{s will be expanded paving materials into the al1ey with -^r 1i^L't-.;^^cl l LLr JJYIIL!IrY. be 30'-(J" frorri llridqe SL::eet. The Fl.af 1-rrr i I I -rrrr {--.r ^FA ^*-..,,n'l rr..r{: --.- clll(l rJLLrvu-r IL,,\rr - There are no significant vjevrs thr-ough thc Allcy at Lhis tj"rne" Gar:ton's deck, the Plaza BuiJ-dilrg chinrney mass, and thc anglcs between Ll:e tvro brrildings proirijrit any vicw east or west. The proFosed offjccs on the west and east wil-l have excellent vicws cast ancl west. |)i H. SUN/SHApE The narrowness of the A11ey prohibits any appreciable sun- light. The proposed building would not alt.er any sun/shade patterns signif icantly. I. ZONING A conditional use permit will be required for offices on a third floor in corunerciaL core r. The applicant will pay all applicable parking fees for the offj-ce use' (tr I \'\L Vail Associates, Inc. April 28, 1981 \',\: ,rv,r"/ 1. ,:q u/ t\t'W .r.,'" {q/ Ivir. Dick Rlzan Tcr^n of Vail Post Offie Box 100 Vai1, Colorado 81558 Subject: A part of l.ot f, Dear Dick: Blod< 5-C (Casino Alley) Vail Associates is ar,vare of tlre prcposal that Pam Telleen has presented to develcp the a-ir space over the prcperbr identified above. Tte ccrq>any has ho cbjections to this if it prorzes to bein the best interests of tlre To,'m of Vai1. Any ownership jnterest that Vail Associates may harre in tfie ground or alr space will be negotiated with ltls. Telleen arrd should beof no concern to the Tc[^/n. Sinoerely, " {"' rl '\i, ,',' I i,. 1:: L ',.X Q: X') \a.IL ASSOCU$ES, rrIC. /l-i&,,-r- T"ULu'^'^t^ l Roger W. Tllkeneier fr Is^lT'ljh Attachtrents cc: Pam Telleen Jacl< I4arstrall Jotur Horan-Kates #$\t ,R Box 7, Vail, Colorado 81657, 303/476-5601 r5.'7r"g1r ii|)' "' .tin',1\ iI;:t:;r;6)lr--r: *i ,l l^r. ill .l ''r' :- 'ilir r, tF *-C€fTJi.: . l'*lfi',,, . r.i {-)-*{J':R,:'.$-V!Y,l ;if 7 -\1f3t i} $ ',l.'":ljl:t t'1-1 i -1.,, '. F/5?Qrrln '{$'l{'T5"Ir'fi r{i.'; *f4 'rF -r11iil ,flrr!.l\F,.'l Q;glr:t 4Tlt+r}. ITJJ.$ , ,iHj73 { !,lY cili:? t3ilb;ffi:? :f.f } .\ ,).r:-i ,i.'{i -qqi :.ra [::.. .3;:'lin ii,r lllkn! i;flq, {'flfi} fr.9l ,'.f1 elh'r:..t! rl#1r*esr; I I {: It I '' Jofrn M. Pekins/Architect, AA/r'oln nero*. 1ffi0 Lions nidge roop/t .2&Noit,@to.81651,:3og-476gs1s April 27, 198L Mr. Dick RyanDirector of Community Town of VailP. O. Box l-00Vail, CO 81658 Development RE: The Alley Project on Bridge Street Dear Dick: This letter is to request another formal reviewby you and your staff of the attached revi.sedproposal . I will work wit,h you, your staff, andthe pubJ-ic, in any way required so thal thj-s pro-posal receives the most thorouqh review possibLe. Thank yqu. ohn M.Perkins, JMPlfb attachments ua$r Application 27 April 81 APPTICATION FORI'I FOR EXTERIOR AI-,TERA?IONS OR MODIFICATIONS IN COMI{ERCIAL CORE I (CCI) r. Th5-s procedure is required for alteration of an existing buildingwhich adds or removes apy enclosed floor area or outdoor patio orreplacement of an existing building shal_l be subject to review bythe Planning and Environmental Commission. The appl5-cation will not be accepted until all information is submitted.. A. NAII,TE OF APPLICANT Pamela A. Telleen ADDRESS P. O. Box 276, Vai1, CO 81658 PHONE 476-7432 REPRESENTATIVE John M. PerkinsB. c. NAI.{.E OF ADDRXSS APPLICANT 1S P. O. Box 266, Vail, CO 81658 PHONE 476-3515 AUTHORIZATION OF STGNATURE (see PROPERTY OWNER attached not.ice from Mr. Telleen and [1r. Cadmus) ADDRESS P. O. Box 1105, VaiI, CO 81658 PHONE D. TOCATION OF PROPOSAL ADDRESS 2Bl Bridge Street, Vai1, CO 81658 LEGAL DESCRIPTION See previous survey certificate and easement FEE $100.00 plus 18+ for each property owner to be notified.. F. II,IPROVEITIENT SURVEY OF PROPERTY SHOWING PRoPERTY LINES A$ID LocATIoN OF BUILD]NG AND ANY IMPROVEIVIII{TS ON THE LAND. See previous survey certificate and easement G. A Lrsr oF THE NAUE oF oI{NERS oF Ar,L PRoPERTY ADJACENT To rHE SUBJECT PROPERTY AJ.ID THEIR ADDRESSES. See previous property owner list II. Four (4) copies of a site plan containing the following information: A. The site plan shall be drawn on a sheet size of 24" x 36', at a scaleof l" = 20,; a variation of the sheet size or scale may be approvedby the Community Development Department if justified; NorE: Additionar information is being obtained by Eagle vatleyEngineering regarding the survey and easement.. E. a ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER LTST FOR THE ALT,EY PROPOSAL I. BRIDGE STREET CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION Don Telleen ,; O 3 <) Warren Pulis Donald Huttner, M.D, Leo Brandess Mark Cadmus Ranald Macdonald 2. PLAZA BUTLDING Joanne Hilr 3o t 6t4f< '2f 3. THE RUCKSACK BUILDING ,,- .. f)-' chuck Rosenquis L / s 3 6:- // a''' Le / -2 rY u"4)u Dick Brown S-rt t, i-/*1 ), *q o '" Jeff Selby - Aoy rs-z-/ 4. THE DELr BUTLDTNG (A & D ENTERPRTSES) r,- vincent J' Domenico 'L r( 6'L^-/)-- '2 / 5. LAZIER ARCADE BUILDING Bob Lazier /,ux/3tsn fo seL'i ft-" fo ,"u=Penvn- & ) 24 Aprit, 1981 Planning and Environnental Corunission Town of VaiLVall, C0 8L557 Dear Gentlemenr Yail Associates, Ltd. by that certain deed dated Decenber29t 1964 and recorded on January 11, L965, in Book 1BBat Page 1J, created a restriction whereby no structureother than ex.:isting roof overhangs were to be construct- ed over the referenced pedestrian easenent. I have eontacted lvlr. Roger filkemeier of Vail AssociatestInc. (Vail .{ssociates, Ltdfs suscessor in interest) who has informed me that Vail Associates, Inc. will concentto the building in or over the pedestrian easement of whatever structure or improvements are approved by the Town of Vail. .{ letter to this effect is forthcoming. If the Town of Vail approves my project, I shall obtain from Vail Assocj.ates, Inc. a written consent to such ap-proved project, prior to commencing construction of such pro ject. Very truly yours, O2/-(il*""--- Pamela A. llelleen 'a TITE ]]TTTI]GE Sl]IttrET CONDOMTNIUM ASSOC]NTION BOX 1.105 VAILI COLORADO 81558 lrpriL 22, 19Bf fo lvhom It May Concern: At a meeting r;f the Bc;arrl of ui rectors of thc Bridge Strcct' Condominiurp Association on March 13' 1981 at 6:45 P'M' on the Associit-i,on premises, ii- was unanitnously r:csolved as follovrs: Resolved t-hat Pameler A. Telleen has been authorizecl to proceed i+ith plans to develop an airspace (to be knorvn as Brioqe SLreet condominium Unit #6) Lo be loca'bed on Associa- ti.on .l.and bel--v.'een the I+ridqe Street Bu-i 1C'i lg and the adjacent Plaza BuildJ-rtg. The Association approves 6+ "a' 'revelopmentof two f loors of h,].l.l ..,',.. .:l lowing the main f loor to re*t-i ,r r-rp€l i:o allow for peclestrian nrqq;r.rc Uiloll secul.ir:q all rlecessary govcrn- mer. I - r crpproval. s, and approval. of Lhe plans ;-,y the Association, the Association wiLl sel1 the right to const.ruct saicl sti:ucture and upon completion wil I accept the unit as a member of the Bi:idqe Street Association, 'T ^^Fr-i €-- r-L-. -ho Fnr-r=crni n,; i .-: a ..)n\.' nF t hr, l-rrf€l intentiOnf \-sr- LrJ. )' Lllct L Lrrr: I \-,/ ! (=\l\J-L.tlu Lr, cr \-\JP] \J!of the Bri-dge Street ConCorninium Association as containedin the minutes of March 13, f981" u.j:Y 8E$fCoPt .(-7,an Tel1.<nc n/_-_.- rk C.edmrr q q.5arr.l-:r r\r Treasure.i: 5 ::ri! ':a,2", Fe -'-r' o:' ! ! n- Tolr of U: i 1'-5 lo:h Frcr:ere ll n aci!lr.r I tn 1..a-=-.1- -- _ t :tr. llIorr D--.i-^!-L (JJ EtJ _ D e:: F=t=r: T r: not in+.end t0 apFearApril', ',99i. Lle are into allorl fol ouhliE eccesspre:ert '.he ne!J desinn tcApr-iI 2!, '2c_1 .rcei!.nq. b efore the Toun Councitt1e process of a desinnthrotrqh'.he "1I";-;;;"the Plannino Cornnission on rl-'-^^^urrott(JE ui11 at the Theik ynu. iinro.l.ol.,- -- l l PeneIa Tel Leen ll Ir department of community development April l, 1981 -----ft[or*l,tr. David- Garton-,' 285 Bridge Street Vail, Colorado 81657 Dear Dave: Yesterday at the Town counci l/Pl anning s Environnental commission joint meeting, it was deternined that adding or rernoving gross lloot "r." requires going thTough the exteliot modification procedure. This would rnean that to add condos, you would be required to go through the process. appealed the deck expansion, and there will on the appeal on T\resday, Apri-l 7, 1981 at luun n box 100 vail, colorado 81657 1303) 476-s613 The Town Counci.l has be a public hearing 7:30 p,m. Sincerel y, -->\ /' tL)n-, ['- DICK RYAN C ornmunity Devel oprnent Dj,rector DR:bpr I. ol Dare fbri""ti""*-MAL APPLICATION FORM TOR EXTERIOR AITERATIONS OR I'{ODIFICATIoNS IN COMMERCIAL CORE 1 {CeI) This proeedure is required for alteration of an existing building which adds or removeJ apy enclosed floor area or outdoor patio or r.fl".u*.1t of an existing building shal1 be subject to review by the Planning and Environmental Commission. The application will not be accepted until all information is submitted' ADDross4o, &x A7O/Vn/l/4, PHINr. B. NAr,{E oF App,,rcAr{rrs REpRESENrmrv, sblU fr7, PE3&HS xnowss 20, Ht( QbQ/ va///@, pno*, #6'?#ll c.AUTHORIZAT]ON OF PROPERTY OWNER SIGNATURE "o*"4tA'ily'?*ADDRESS D.LOCATION OF PROPOSAI ADDRESS LEGAL DESCRIPTION E. FEE $100.00 plus 184 for each property owner to be notified. F.II'{PROVEI,IENT SURVEY OF PROPERTY SHOWING PROPERTY I,INES A}ID LOCATION OF BUILDING AND A}IY II{PROVEMET..ITS ON THE LAND. G. A LIST OF THE NAT,IE OF OWNERS OF ALL PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THEIR ADDRESSES. II. Four (4) copies of a site plan containing the following information: A. The site plan shall be drawn on a sheet size of 24" x 36" at a scale of l" = 2lO'; a variation of the sheet size or scale may be apProved by the Cornmunity Development DePartment if justified; effi., B-TD.,&uuu s/zi/si Dear Si::s: an add a<lditi-on on Over bu"i.Lding u'll-i"ch v,'otrl.d. be a r;rLtltistoi:y fil.J-ingin the alle3r area io the t \'. ,,, r.,{'-h ir .' . .ii l, '' :. i-;'itj ;',t.iif "ta'":ii T$4ffi Affi[ZOzu t Uffi &uffit$fr "qrum o AT i* 31,o,,.o, W.?W"Jdr BUSTNFSS REpLTES: 7066 FrFr-t iuurra - scorrsDAlE, ARtzor,*A B'2FI - g4b-2t tB or u47-86to ADDITIONAL ARIZONA RE'l AlL l,OCATIOt'lS: SCOTTSDALE: 70E4 Al'jD 7082 FlFl H AVENUE; Tllf: JEWELRY COfr,lPANY.7056 FIFTH rWEflUE - 947-8569 PHOEIITX: CHRIS TOV'/N SHOPPIT'tG CENTER, I'rAli'l i\4ALL WESI 249-2620 SUN ClrY: 10768 GnAND A\.'EN|]E SHOFPIIIG CENTER - 933-6005 tN COLORADO: ASPEN; TtlE COLUMBI|IE SHOP - 403 E HYr''lAN ST- 816J 1 ' 925-2S53 V/\lL; VAIL CUS I OM JEWELERS - 225 E. WALL ST. 81 657 - 476-3005 rt& f noted an ar'ricle i-n the"Trail" vrith reference 'r;o hu-Llcling Gartcrit s Cas ino dan soutli" f rsish to go on reeord as bc:lng absol-utcl.y opposed t* sucl: conetrltction, An addition of tha'L nature wsul.d cr:eate and effect a1on6i Wal1 Street of a canyon--j.'i; vrculd c1o.3e in'lhe area... and clai:hen it *c 'i;he open sun and make it ir,uc:]r less dsrsireabl.e for peclple to enjo;,'ualk:ing along zrnd sitting, L.ircl , T fer::l., vct:ir signif:l.cantl-)'narr,r all rnereharrts along; that s'breet. The co::e a.rea of vail is certainly bu.iJ.'c iip enolr6h; i"i: j-s nor..' *i nli; -i;$ y,rcirh -i;r: p:::eselve .bhi? i-ltar;a, ard cl:arac'l;er of the to"in that causes people'h* linger ancl enji:y itn alnd in the fi.naj- analys-i-so tha-l; is v:h)'the.!:o.;;.ii e.xist{i" Anrl. s.r,; I feel free"ly ttltl'r'it'lg accesli is of importance to evr',::.;gorre, I alr al-l-r o stror:,gJ.y oppc.itcd to any alteraticrr of l.s.nd already cl.crij_ea.*ed fnr: pr.iblic vda.-t-lin'alr baek "i.a u:or:c builcl-irig" Thiirrk*you for ;rour consideration, S i.nce::e 1-y nAr--, <l'/" \ -\-'\\---- To& I{cKcel tr'a"i-l 0uston iiel,rcl.cns to Y,,,1-;Xr',fI"l;h'* IL' /1 /?8/YQa,a-""A , r -4-A{Xd.4z.z)>4*) ,,<r/\,2 L4_d<A_/ rt-1d4-. ///--rr'_t'y1_e)_.e_) .,ry.-L?-,) Q_6W::-A/U c.< tz-e/7r_ --{-- O!- \pa,e.t .t4-, a,e-Le-.,.-.}J*-t /^","- Vnra-,^-.i-, -&*44 a-'.rs() .r4--/--1.-<,\),a..-,-\Lt/o o/o,r' c-o-tr.l"/-r-rrut, -)n-'{,rtV Y)".-.,Q d"c+.tz-, 7 c-t-".-ttt <-b-a;r , Ou-,* pa,*-, .r,o*i.&tll ,..n *J ,{d z-*a*r}4. 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POST Orro, Pnrnnsorc & Posr ATTOBIIIYS AT I..{W POST O FFICE EOX 3I49 varr., coLoFADo ar657 May 14, l98l VAIL NATIONAL BAN X BUILDING (3O3) 476-OO92 EAG LE.VAIL PRO FESSIO NAL BU ILD ING {303) 949-53aO l'{r. Larry Rider, Esq. Town Attornev Town of Vail'P.0. Box 100Vail, Co 81658 RE: A part of Lot F, Block 5-C,Vail Village First Filing (Bridge SEreet Condominium Association Alley) Dear Larry: Reference is made to Ehat certain pedesErian easemenE(the "easemenL") on the above described property over which Pamela A. Telleen has proposed to construct certain improvements. The easement r^7as created ty resetvation in that certain deed(the "Deed") from Vait Ass6ciates, Ltd. to W. K. Whiteford, Jr.dated December 29, L964, and recorded on January 11, 1965, inBook 188 at Page 15 of the Eagle County, Colorado, records. In addition to the easement, Vail AssociaLes, Ltd.created what appears to be a private restriction in the Deed whereby Che building of any improvements over said easementis restricted except for some minor excepLions if approved byVail Associates, Ltd., or iLs successors and assigns. However,it is my understanding t,hat over the years certain improvements have been butlt over and on Lhe easement including a coveredentrance co adjoining property, exhausL chimneys and trash sLrucEures. The purpose of this letter is to respond to yourrequest for a statemenE from Ms. Telleen as t,o her "legal" right.to const,ruct the proposed improvements over Lhe easement consider-lng the presence of said private restriction. I have advised Ms. Telleen thaL short of a quiettitle action or declaratory judgment Ehere is no posiCive means by whieh to assure her Lhat her proposed improvements would not violate the private restriction. Hor"rever, I havealso advised her that Testrictions on Lhe use of land arestricLly construed, that privafe restrictions may be construedas terminated upon a change in surrounding use or prior uncon-tested violat.ions of the restriction and LhaL it is even ffi; til'lnliu"' fa' *o possible that. it might be determined that her proposed improvements actually comply with the original intenE of thecreator of the restriction Eo Dreserve a safe and attractivepedestrian walkway (considerin! the approval of rhe projectas evidenced by the April 28, 1981, letter from Vail Associates,Inc. Lo Mr. Dick Ryan of the Tor,rn of Vail). Pursuant to my advice, Ms. Telleen is presenLlyin the process of contacLl-ng real property o\^,ners in theviciniry of the proposed project who have expressed a con-cern about her project to determine if there will be any activecontest by such parties. If Ms. Telleen finds that any suchparty proposes to acEively oppose her project, she hasrepresented Ehat she will not proceed further. In this case, we are dealing with a private restric-tion that may or may not be enforcible against l,fs. Telleen'sproject. However, the approval of Ms. Telleen's project by Ehe Town of Vail and the actual construction of Ms. lelleeir'sprojeet in themselves will not violate the "Law" even thoughthe actual consLrucEion may resulL in some private personalaction againsE Ms. Telleen by a presently unknown privateparEy. I believe that the Town of Vail should focus onthe question of whecher Ms. Telleen's project will improvethe Town of Vail by making a cleaner and safer pedestiian walkway by putting Lhe presently neglected and bften Limesdangerous alley to a maintained and-beneficlal use. Thequestion of the enforcement of questionable privat.e restric-tions should be left to Ms. Telieen and her neighbors. I.hope thac this lett.er is of some help in expressingMs. Telleen's posl-tion and I would be happy to discuss thematEer with you furt,her at your convenience. Very truly yours, William J. Post WJP/prf cc Peter Pat,ten Pamela Telleen . Diana Donovanr, r".r"ild to the planning *a rnurroillar comnissionmeeting on March 9. lg8l March 9, 1981 To Whour It May Concern: I have lived in Vail continuously for 16 years and expect to spend the rest of my lifefere-' I am very concerned- (and perhaps too emotionalj about tire trend of developmentin the core, Each proposal must be judged by what is good for vail as a who1e. wenust not sacrifice the quality (whatever it is--a feering, quaintness, gingerbread,namow streets ' -nothing I can express specifically) what-has rnade Vail i su"""rr.It is the sornething that Lionsheid ir rnissing, aad'no one can consciously duplicate. One of these physi-cal qualities is the appearance of a village of individual businesses'-norn and pop businesses rather than corp-oration chains. The lack of bulk and massive-ngss -a: irnportant ' You do not have to crane your neck to see out of the vil1age. Everytiny.bit of airspace adds to this feeling, 0nce airspace is 1ost, it can never beregained. The walkway between the PLaza Buildi.ng and the casino is used more frequent ly thanmost people believe. rt does need to be improved upon, and a covered walkway as in-dicated i.n the nlaster plan,should be perfeci. From personal observation, it seensto be used most in the. early evening. rt is the shoitest route fron the parking srruc-ture to the ticket office also. wiih sone improvenent, it could becone uir l*po"t"rrtpart of Vailts maze of neandering streets. I believe this 'nazerr is part of i/ail rsquality a1so. .rf the casino deck is encrosed, it would be vital to keep this walkway open. Does vail need nore shops and offices? would they add to the vair -quality' or Justbe capit;afi?Tng on thai quality? Enclosi.ng the walkway between the Plaza Building and the casino would affect DonovanrsCopper Bar as follows: l' The trash sheds were built with Tom approval . Our alternative j.s trash canson Bridge Street at 10 p.n. 2. Exhause fan in north wal1. Twenty orr nore percent of ourhills on the north side of the this window lets in is an iinportant part of Donovanrs success for apreslight is vital for apres skil 5' A flue serving Pistachiors and Donovanr s is on the north end of the praza building,l\ihere would the access to it be in case of fire o, ".p.irri--6' The Plaza Building.wil-l be-vi.rtually inaccessible this surnner if all the proposedconstruction is allowed' Neither Telleln nor the casino has anyplace to put constructionmaterials and debris. Donovants has no off season--we have opened every day since 1966. The si'gners of Telleen's proposal did not seen to be faniliar with the walkway, asit has not been filthy. and srnetty for at least five years--the point at which ourlandlord and the health i.nspector deemed it our responsibility. No visitor commentsare included. Did any of the signers know the size'of the ipace involved? the window space faces the al1ey and looks across roval1ey. This is our omr view corridor. 4. The light ski. Natural Donovan 3/g/8I p"c" I An interesting aside to me is that this is the first tine in 16 years that the Casino' has claimed ttthe alleyr', Thoughts and questions: 1. How nany contractors have successfully completed the ttmessyrt part during theoff season?2. How many consecutj.ve sunners has the village been torn up?3. How many tourists and locals complained last year about our constant state of being under construction ?4, How will high air faires and gas prices affect the Vail economy?5. If skier numbers are linited, a fact, can linited skier nunbers supportunlimited shops for the benefit of Vail?6. If Vail Pass consttuction affected Vail, what will Glenwood Canyon construction do for a 10 year period? We will be on a virtual dead end. I an not against growth. I an against quantity which does not inprove the quatityof vail for myself, my fanily, rny neighbors and the visitors we depend upon. thank you (signed) Diana Donovan P.S. I obviously oppose the Telleen proposal , but also the Casino deck and the RedLion Proposals, Vail does not need any additional buld for quality. Monday, February 9, 1981 1:50 site inspections of Garton alley ancl deck and Luke,(lot g, blk 3, Bighorn 3) 2:,30 Study Sess ion: To study a proposal to close the alley between the Plaza and the CasinoBuildings in VaiI Village. 3:00 Regular Session: 1. Approval of ninutes of neeting of January 12, 1ggl. 2, Approval of ninutes of neeting of January 26, 19g1. 3. Luke density control variance, Lot s, Brock 3, Bighorn sub, 3rd Addition(tabled froro January 26 meeting) \''r' 4. A request for a minor subdivision to relocate an existing lot line betweenlots 5 and 6, Bighorn sth Addlrion. Appricantr Bjorn tsorgen. 5. A request fol an exterior alteratj-on and modification in Conunercial Core Iand height vatiance to construct an elevator at the Sitzmark bui"lding located.at 183 Gor:e Creek Drive. Applicant: Bob Frj,tch. 5. A request for an exterior alteration and modification in Conrnercial Core Ifor the Red Lion building, to construct threc additional dwelling units andshops at 304 East Bridge Street. Applicant: Jeff Selby. Published in the Vail Trail February 6, 1g8l. PLANNING AND ENVIRONI\TENTAL COMMI SS ION AGENDA Design Buide Plan and exterior the Casino Building and Plaza PEC-page6-3/9/BL 6erry:next item on the da is drnent t tion request for the alley betlreen Staff com:nents, pl ease. people r,+ho are in favor Tej-Jeen, and people who area, namy tre j.ng residents alterati r-j. Lodge on Bridge Stree Dick: Mr. Chainnan, and nembers of the board, this is actually a two par:t request. The fj.rst part the Planning Cornrnission must deal with whether to anend or not amendVail viliage urban Design Guide p1an. The urban DEsign Guide plan was somewhat specificin this area, it talked about a nid-block connection that would be between the Plaza Lodge and the Casino Building that would go from Bridge Street over to the recently redeveloped plaza. It is the feeling of staff that until the opti.ons have been explored regarding the a11ey, if it can be urade into viable walkway through that the opportunityof closing it in should not take place. The staff has reviewed thi.s and walked andI think :nembers of the Planning Conrnission have reviewcd this at the iirne the Urban Design Guide Plan I'ras appr:oved and after that.. Again, it is the staffts feeling thatthere should be the opportunity to Look at improving this as one of the networks that we have throrighout the Village, see if it ls a viable alternative before we lose thatoption:, I believe foteve::, once it has been enclosed and that we actuaily have a building placed in that location. Talking to Gerry bcfore the meeting, he said it is a littled.ifferent than the Rucksack proposal because he thought it was a more viable place to actual ly go throrrgh. I dld not have the opportunity of seeing that. Itve only been in Torrrn for the past 2 yeays, so I don't real1y know the spirce that we1.1,but it vias something that was mentioned duri.ng the worlishops tha.t we had ol Vaii Village. Many people thought that that connection was a very viable connection for Vail Village and should not have been closed in. Again, it is the recommendat j.on of the staff that u'e should explore as a comrrunity and see 1f it is rea11y a viable r,ralkway before we make a decision of changing the--amending the Urban Design Guide Plan possibly allowing a building t0 take place there. $"ly*, Thank you. We have two long lists of signatures ofof encl osing the alley, and the lists r,iere cir.culated by Pam signed the li-sts rr'ere all people who were f;Lmiliar wi.tl-r theof the Toi'n of Vail, Rre theie conment! from the appli-cant? J_tltn-l.r, r l.'iiis: rtn .Iohn Pcr.'lri:.rs and I a:n repr r:sc:ij:i.1lg :r1c applica.nt. Itn about to lose rlr' voice--I have a bad co]d, so I'll be ve:-r' bt'ier'. This r.ri"1l be tire third t:i:nethet )'oi1 gtii's have seen this proposal , an 11 I thinlc ruervc stated iii the previous thrce meetings r,rhy ne don't feel that this thing is ever going to worii as a viable pedr:-st::ian waLkway. Drainage, light, lr:.ck of any focus of anything, especi"ally moving fron an East to l{est direction. The ice run-off in the winter nakes it just about irnpossibleto get through. The existing trash enclosures that are there norv, we feel like are probably off of the property of the Plaza building, and shouldnrt be therce. The ormerof the Plaza builcling has st:rted that she did not warlt trash in there, arLd that has been her po-sitiott for -sone tirne and the trasl-r remained in there. I dontt know--those are ny basic points, and werve been through thein, like I said, 3 tinies before. l{efeel like wetve got a better solution here, and with r:espect to Dickts point, I think we coul.d ttait around forever and see nany ot-her proposals, but rve have a proposal here now werd like you to consider. Now, Dick, do you h'ant rne to run through tire buiidingor are tr'e going to decide on the anendment first, or r,/hat is the procedure? l)ick: I proposal exr er iof tirlnk it j-s up to the Planning Comnission, if they want to go through the rr'hole nnd then cone back and deal with the arnendnent and thcn deal with the Conditiona. modificati.on. Cggy.: I think you could go qurckly through that. jg}n.i 0.K. Since you have seen this 1ast, there have been a couple of noclifications. i{e wott1 d now proposo only one s}rop on thr.: lower floor uith prirnar:y access f rorn Br'.i.iigestreet' The entry has bectr flip-fiopped. Prcvicusly i;l.ie door vra-s on the north side \ e TeIleen PEC - page 1- s/glet the entry door is to the south. Pistachiors entry way would work very much the waythat it is now. A couple of reasons for doing that. It alleviated problems of gettingin here and turning in a very tight area. We also feel like the conslruction process--in the construction process, l.tre can inprove Pistachiots contuing operation while wetre under construction by keeping this a straight shot for him. The shop would have asecurity wall-type closure. That hasn rt been speced yet, but wetre thinking some sortof iron separation system that possibly could go into the ceiling or sone iron gatesof sorne Portion. We would like for this to be closed, and yet 1et the traffic intoPistachio's be able to see into this display area. You then cone down three risersinto this shop' The door and everything would be at Bridge StTeet leve1 and there would be that elevation change inside the shop. The other major change-- the uppertwo floors now have been converted to an office operation, aE-your nemo said. A-coupleof reasons for that: The noise factor at Garton,i and Mrs, Ilillts opposition to noiseimnediately on her north wall, We think the offices with the day tim-e use would be n0ore conpatible there and the building still act as a noise buffer. Itrs our thinkingthat one tenant would take both of these floors. However, if that isntt the case,I've shown it divided off into 4 basic very srnall office spaces with a bat-h on thcmid level . The staj"rs are now a scissors stair fron the nid-floor to the upper floor. They are in the sarne position. We tried very hard to work these stairs lnto-the frontof this thing so that those offices could have the tsridge Street exposure, but dueto the narowness of this throat, it forced cverythi.ng too far in here. That cornerbeing the only 90 " angle, itts the most obvious place for stairs. Archit ectural ly,thi-s proposal has been different every time you hive seen it. We now feel like we hope to have a flat roof approved. This roof would not be f1at, but would be cantedoff of thc Plaza building behind this parapet and would drain dohn into an interiordrainage system which Itve been through beford. It sinplifies a lot of things. Thelast drawing you saw on this had rnany different cants and valleys and things. tsy extendinthi-s flower box out to a portion of Gartonts roof, it gives rne a point here where Ican cant back to this drain. I'tI do the same thing to that sicle which wontt be asvisable. This roof would have a slight pitch off, brj,nging everything into the 6inch roof drai:r. The rear elevation does not take into aciount itr" oih"r propo-salthat youtll hear today. Thls win<low would be on that stairs, you cone up with decks-sti11 on the--off of each 1c-'ve,r. rvith fl.olser Lo,,:l':,, 1\1:r sti^11 feel. lilie ti,: archite ctu.i:elcharacto:r i-c either residenl.ia1 or. corn:nercial, , . ;crrrI think you could t.el 1 any dif ierencel{c generally like the detailing of the Curtin-iiili shop in thl nei,r builciir:g. i can'tremenber the official name of that building, but we liie the panecl windows, we thi,nkwe would use some fine detailing and paint work and try to bring this into the sna1lscale architecturally that the space is. The fire wa1is, again, would be 2 hour occu-pancy separation wal1s along both existing buildings, and Nlr. Swalson has indicatedthat he thinks that is better than the conditi.on that is there novr. lle?d also usea class A paint spread on all interior naterials. The constmction staging is a very difficult issue, and I dontt real1y have any rnagicsolution to that problem. The storage of natcrials and the time that businesses rnthis area will be affected is a different problem. I am hoping that if these two pro-jects should go at different tines, that perhaps Gartonr-s dLck could be used for stagingof sorne light materials. fleavy naterlals, f tlink that we would have to hopefuJ.lytry to work something out with the Town sornewircrc and store those a nin imulr anounrof time and get them in place. I think Irve coverecl everything--if you have questions., Ge{{y: Are there any other questions? 0.K, Are there any other coffnents frorn the audience ? the Planning Commission. Werre dealing rather with the space. Knox: You are dealing with the ability to construct it, so thereforeiilE-the space. PEC-page8-3/9/81 George Knox: Doesntt the Town ordinances say that there will be no naterials stored on public streets etc, no construction trucks and everything will be parked. . . ; right now with you are dealing Gerry: we arentt going to deal with the actual construction proiect Gerry: The Town regulations are, of course, intact, and they will control abuse ofpublic rights-of-way. John: We're hoping to use some of Gartonts area,materials. I'in hoping that it can be staged, that sonehow so the storage is as close as possible to Xqgx: l{hat is this building going to entail goingEt6--the sewer? 0n Bridge Stieeti but that certainly wontt cover heavy the construction can be staged the area.. ... into the sewea, where i_s it going :John: The roof drain is going into the storage .sewer on wall street. Knox: furd that area is a1l going to be torn up again. I,tthere is the other sewer going to go ? John: Itn not sure. It will be to the closest one. Knoxj Donrt you think thatts an irnportant part of..for the inconvenience..you know, Irve gone t-hru...Irrn not nccessarily against it, Itn tired of being outof business in the suruner tine. Everybody is siiting up on these boards not giving.,.First of all, youtve got to get i.nto the sewer:s, ro ttou' the street's all torn up aga.in.And you don tt knorv how yourre going to get into the sewer- -that r s what I r^,ant to knor,r,,and I don't think it, should be appnoved until j-t's found out how yourre goi-ng to getinto the selrer, until a.ll these ihings are takcr .,.:are of . . -.. Jql-ni If the closcst seler is in Bridge Stree{-, yes, r,i,e will go into Bri6ge Street" KJro x : We 1 1 , we don r t know, and lrrn concernerJ. DiSk: George, it rnost 1ike1y wj.ll be Bridge Street. There is a problem with thesewer main., and there has been a problem with the sewer main on Wa1l Street. Knqx: Is there a problem wi.th the sewer main on Britlge St? Ryan: No, on ltall St. "'SgL Wcll, as I understand, there is a problem that remains rvith the se\^/er on BridgeStreet, aI so. Ryan: I haventt heard of that one. Knox.: (intel1igib1e--sornething about going into that sina11 sewer line) Gerry: As there any other comnents from the audience? Diana Donovan r (Read a letter that is attached to these minutes) rl PEC-page9-3/9/81 gglggf Jglg-(owner of Pistachio's) I've seen this project for some little time,Irve seen what goes on in the al1ey, Irve been there--this is our 6th winter. Irm opposed to this project, No. 1, werve had a vcry bad winter. I think itrs pretty much know throughout the village that everybody j.s not in very good shape. f ttrir.t<any loss to our business to construction, inconvenience of entry, is going to hurt us_ severely. I agree that the alley needs sornethi.ng done to it, It.ts pretty muchof a rness. Itts clean, but itrs a mess. ltrhen Garton dumps his roof in ther'e, itleaks into our building, it makes a wa1l of snow thatrs 3 feet high. Granted, that snow has to go sonewhere. Fortunately they haven't had to clean their roof off thiswinter. I think I could go along with a covered walkway through there, but a buildingI don_rt think is going to solve anybodyrs problerns. My-biggesi opposition to it,is, what is it going to do to my business ihis su*'ter with a torn-up entry-way anrlconstruction rnaterials piled up all over the place? I don't personally believe thatthey can be kept off site. Itm not a developlr. Irve only gine through a coupleof buildings in my life, and I donrt personalty see where they can put their materials sornewhere e1se. It would be an anazement to ne. Thank you io" your time and yourconsideration of ny points. Scot!: One question lt{r. Knox brought up. Irm assunring that j-n oul: pl. anning and buildingpernit process that if the cornmission approves a project that that in no way inpliesthat the sewer dept has to provide sewer--I nean thatts sti11 judgcd on its--I meanthe project could be stopped at any point because of lack of t'acilities or even lackof being able to mect the Town codes in being able to build the building, and thattsnot a consideration for us at this point? Gerry: No, and I ivould add that there certainly can and should be conditions forapproval, one of which would be construction naterials. For examp1.e, where tncy a3e 1to1ed, how they are brought in, timing, etc. r think that that not only is varid,I think it i.s necessary. -DY3*l Gerry, are you saying that you think this should be a condition for approvalto this p::cject? By this corrrnission? !S:fy-. I think there should be conditions for approrral, if approva-l is where vrerregcing t0 gc). !19:"., -r\re tr'e:rea1 l.y, though, in a situation 1., l:c-i-lrj-s doubling ul r,,hrt alrezLdyexists uitliin the fr:ulelr'ork of the Tor,n, ca1 I j.t their red tape, i.:t you wi11, in asituation where itrs presented to the Town, itrs rny understanding that staff makesconditions of builcling site in terrns of construct j.on fencing, in te ns of vehicl"eson site, in terns of rnaterial storage, etc, Dick: There was an ordinance passed by the Town Council last year uhich restrictedTEe anount of vehiclcs on sitl, and tire Design Review Boarcl r.roul d revj-ew the typcof fence, where the fence was located. Sone of the issues that Gerry wants to purinto the whatever the recommendations are here for approval. Specifically, it'i therequirernent of the DRB that they look at fencing.. Duane: We would be duplicating what already.. Gerry: In effect, rue would--wctd just be addj.ng a litt1e nuscle to it.,and secondly I think Bridgc st is a rather unusual street, I donrt thinkthe general criteria for development in the Town of Vail. lugre: Another point, specific to that iten is that the staff says, I'i-f we hrere toapprove this" thcy have sevcral conditions of its appearance which to ne again isdup].icating rvhat the Design Review Board would t"" and revieru in this matter. first of all, it fits into I PEC - page I0 - 3/9/8L Dick: - I think part of it is conditions to inake sure that we have the irnproved enrry ways the shops that would not necessarily be a requirenent of the Design Review tsoard.If there is going to be access out by Wall Street, the Town project only took j-t to a, certain point, in that it should be irnproved from the edge of the Town project tothe new entry way of the building itseLf. Duane: So you are asking specific points to program P&! That would be part of the conditions of approval for this project, that wejust would see not the end of the plaza, Uut thii there would be an actual walkwayin order to get into the building puale Could I ask the architect, are you aware of these requirenents that the stafffrG-?iscussed? Do you agree with theni John: I think so. Diana: I talked to a couple of people from Vail Associates, I said why wasntt thisf6E-deeded to the Town in the blginning when the streets were deeded? They saidthat it was an oversight. It should have been, but it didn't get done for no particularreason. One person saj-d, ttlf this is not approved then Vail A-s.sociates will deedthat easenent to the Totr'n,'i And another peison higher up i.n the crganization saiclthat they knel notiring about the al1ey whatsoever. qcott: Again, since I an new on this co!$rission, if, in taking somethi-ng like thislnto consi.deration, I have no problen with the merit of the building and my feelingsabout that sPace. But, now we have 3 adjacent shop or,,ners here who ar" "grinrt th*project. I haventt heard them..I feel in ny mind that their objections tJ this projectis based primarily on what itts going to do to thelr business during this coming suruner,J guess my problem is is how much weight dcl we give to the feelings of the neig[boringbusinesses ? Gerry: We11,- it is certainly a factor for consjderation. I would pursue that just one step further and do -sonething rather unt:.srral., If de]lveri.,-.; .u-r*ie -specified forI{ai l. Sl: , on1y, 'thc i'.1i4 si'roi:c that rr,ol;. i 11 be ri,f a. ;. ;: r;i,.t:;.ei y aff ecte d in my opinion, a]nlriay,would Lt' tlte Si1'uc:rL;riii.th, r','lich be1ol3,:; to Dhr'.r.:lJecn, and thc Va11ey Foige, andI wonder', l'ta::ren lrnlis, ir9 yc.:u have :r:iy fee1I.i:i;:, alrout that-of constructlon naterialfor this project? Pulis: Deliveries will interrup all of WalI St. I know that it's going to affect6lir6usiness. lVe have a lrery hird to get at (not at nike, so hard to hear exactty;these people are going to suffer lossei frorn noise or exterior obstruction. ..,.If-it rrrere spli.t into 2 different building pcriods, I don't know if it would solveanything or not. .....sonleone will make $, sone lose. S"tiyj- To-say there will be no growth, due to the fact that any construction wouldbe deleterious to the existing busi-nesses is a step that we havln't. considered, andI don't think that at this point in time we,re prepared to take. Knox: I think that werr.e addressing the wrong group. I think that what we're basicallyaear-ing with in this Town is adclressirrg future grohth, within all these areas. rthink that somet.ime .. wetve got to stop whatrs going on in Vail, Colorario, and itrsget"ting scary' and everybodv has their hand out for one nore dime on any little spacethat they can get in this town. I guess if I stood out on a street in VaiI ancl askedevery single person who walked donn the street, "Do you like vail as it is now, youwouldn't be getting very good answers, cuz everyone of them would sign that peiition,and that wouldntt be very fair to you, either. But the point is, there u"" -o lotof peoplc r,v'ho keep coming back to this town, theyrre gctting tired of this Town I PEC - Page ll - 3/9/81 a]'lowingpeoPletobeonthatStf,eetbuj'ldingsonethingand-cnclosingthisthinglike New york city. It's getting rea1ly tiai"iioit. And for-some r:eason' there isn't anyone in this to"n wfio has the *"' to-!lo;i; ' -io'"uoav-il":::'l"ilrlit"i"'il3liu i"iF::'*li:;,*:i';";;ffi'gl; *i'llil:".':i"i:::sF,:ill.;;;-:"'i i"o" ^l !arkea to Dick Ryan earlier, and he said t},tttr"t},J"-Ct"t.ii's position' youtve go to get to the council to get these things stopieJ, These projects thai you all are looking at right now are going to lead.to tot" oi*tt'"o"-I pio*it"'{ot'anrl there are going to be court ""r"r.nI everything "rro,'ir-ri,rlu"ay doesntt stoP these things there are going to be nore and more of tiren, ;;"-;;; tott atr ove:: t'hat core alea and see where it is going to go ' Dan Telleen: Mrat George j-s talking about is true, but I, think what he is talking ,,out-rsn'w',"'.,""-Jr^io. ti,i, pran is I e;;d";i; f:" ll: allev or an improventent to the looks of the Tohn, but just 1,ow ,n -,.i', *ot! "o,,'ttuction petple can stand' and whether or not tfr" .onlituction that go"r-." is conpatibte witir businesses around it. you asked warr"n if deliveri", "orrii u"alt"t hii business or if it wouLd Lrother nine, and it would U"'ft"t-ty-uusiness ti-tn"t'-n"pn:t"1^':l::t 10:00 otclock in the norning. If they happened before that'_).ikc Johil. is saying, if thc timing is correct, then thc irnpact is going to be prctty ti"i*"l on ny busin"ti' b"ttttte the pounding and the stonping tr.,It 96 on arenrt goin-g"io l" rigirt- over. nv hcad' And I think it is going to be ninifi"r"i.t"t"ri,r"ir3r iit""l"""tti'-;t r''hich is rea11y ihe construction worker rr'ho gets ott work when constr"tii;;;;;;;-;t:'99:lclock' or for Pistachiors' the business starts iot- aft" tlinner ft""t-""a'gtis on i'nto tne evening' after construction has stopped, so the .ona"trr= that George--r]url I go alorrg with, too nuch construct ion or construction that hasn't b""r,.otpuilUi""iti"rt=inl rais tttui tft" Town has already set up to nake sure that bni-ldi-ng r"a""i*i, are hldden or t}re inrpact is at a minimun because noncompatlDle construction pto3ili= t"ttiy ll:t^:I"ttoody' but' if you pass the plan rvith the ia".-anra itts an imirovernent to the street and then the raws are enforced like Gcorge is asking for to;#;"r;;; it',u.-o"tttJ"iion it compati'ble' rthink the negative irnpact will be ninimal' -9:,i::i::t... I don'1--k"1ow i'f lr'etre supposecl to add"cr-:r I'j'ne factors cr anything else as lic:it;.g,e says, r..'n tlot sure that urr ir'," ptoblc;,'r,:.:i ;rtn,constlir''-i-ic'tt ilnd eve l-y1:hing else, there,s a Lot of cmpathy tirat_ i ih:irk goes j ii.il.o this thin '1 because r:e know pepi's is going to be undei constructio;"il;r-;;;'tcLr, and-tf't" n"a Lion' 1 assume wj-11 beunderconstructionthj-sSunmel,andifwiratyou:aynaybetruc,youaregoing ro have a sewer tine dug up, too to ;.;ir;;. fuhether. soneone puts requirenents if this thing were passed, this or Garton;l;- 4t iil"r'a 1i""-i" ai' it all in the nonth of May, and naybe thatis what it tut"''-"ftith is a.1ui11 iontfr' ot frorn the end of the ski season ti11 when the suruner ,"rror, starts to 8et ihe cottstruction as nuch out of the wav as possible' It has ";";;;;;;l;-,1"-:]l: past' be it the Torvn tearittg up' putting nerv lines in. Cities .o,,ii]1.."riy change, wheti-rer ior the bettel oI not is the arguenent of rrrho is doing it, ;; *ho'do*rnit want it done' I really feel that rve need to address ourselves ut al-*ii"Ift"t'-titit alley way rrrith this proposal should be accepted or denied. r tuu"";ii';;-;"f";", r d; fe;1 that this is a better- rnent addition to the Tohm. Irve seen tf." uff"y a long '*; ;;e I havc:rrt seen anything that has been do'e in 16 years, all of a sudden " ptopor"l comes that r think would be an additon and enhancc the area' "ir'r""r-iiiat it ihouid be allowed to continue' Gerry;Iwouldquicklyaddone-comentintothat'I-thinkthatitisanccessary ia[iiion in tcrns of the space betwe""'ti."nt"r" Irllul:g:rncl tire casiuo building which i-s now the s;i";;r, -i tt,int. that that is not an inviting sfacc that tcnds to leacl nowhere as you look at it fron titit" ti .' "et'"" tltougil-ii ab"t lcud sontctr4rcre' itrs not a visible space from nr.,y*t'"""-oi Bri-dge St., whiic the allcy bctwccrl the Rucksack irnd the Redllion was, it 1ed to a taiiiy la"ge su'cc at thc Mill (lrccK court building. That, I thought, ro,, u.ty badthing to'r't.u. happcned' In this particular ."a", I th|nk itrs i:-r the best intercst of t5e Town to enclosc thrlt space t a PEC - page 12 - 3/9/8L for aesthetic reasons and because I think itts a hazatd.. Scott: Elaborating on what I was concerned about before, I agree with that project as I see it on the paper, but now, I trn starting to say, is it going to be worth whatit will cost the neighbors there? It would be sinrple if there were another comnissionthat they went to after they cane to us to decidc on whether the value that the overall Town would gain by this project would eradicate the loss of the neighboring shops, and I guess it looks to ne like we have to make that value consideration in our decision on whether to approve this project. I donrt think there is any other place that the neighboring shop owners can go to prevent this. I guess they could appeal it to the Town Council. I think that we have to consider nhether what the fj.nished productis going to be worth what it is going to cost these other shop owners, Geny: Thatrs why I think the conditions for approrral are necessary. Jim I feel that we were given a direction by the Design Guide Plan into the use of Tfi-Is atea and if an infill such as this had been the diaection..it took about a yearto put the DGP together, if therc had been an indication that that would have been the best use for that space, perhaps that would have come out of that p1an. Now, because this is the first proposal that has cone in at that location, I donrt seethe necessity, because it would take care of a messt' situat ion that we have anotherdirection t-hat was pointed out to us as a viable nsage for it, to then tratlsfer overto the first thing that cones along because it's going to do away vrith perhaps unsightlysituation that exists now. It wasnrt urhat was proposed by the Design Guide Flan. G.aylor: I think that rvetve looked at a 1itt1e bit of a possible enclosure in there. I tn not sure that that is an ansr{er. Again, thinl:ing along riry li.nes, condj.tions|n not sure that that is an ansr{er. Again, thinl:ing along riry li.nes, condj.tionsr would like to see a 1ot of written conditions on tiiis, and rtm not sure that what goes into the time frame that what ca.n be done--when <leliveries can be rnade,all of these things a:'e important. I{erve said il. cvely year, letts get a]l. the builclingdone, and every yeer there is rnore building so, I canrt say letrs build everythi-ng and fnrget it for the one year. ft?s not practical ard itrs not going to work. l{hetherthis i.s the ycar to tr:i' t.ri do it, I don't !tnor,r" !-:gii:,, (:rt:t at mikcJ ijr'cr)'tiue somethinli rpentr- :.:, 'r:l',at the a11ey has been there ...uol-hirigs el'cl' bsgl 613rr.. Eyct'ybody has lcrcJicit i;i. l)onoya:iIs to d.o soinething aboutit. l'ie tve always been under the inpression that j L belongecl to the Tornn and iverewaiting for the Torvn to do something about it........now the Town can do something aboutit. NOw that rve have the p1aza, ri'hy donrt you give them a chance to see j-f peopte willuse tha.t alley to the plaza. If you lrrere to sit in our bar sometimes watching peoplego through that altey, you'd find out there are a 1ot of pcople going through there,In the winter tvh en they canrt get through, the1, aa* rvalking lhrough our bar. So thereis traffic in the a1 1ey and it is used. I would ,rssume that with the plaza on the otherend, more peopte are going to use it, because it lvill go soneplace ttow. A building isnot the only alternative. DaIt f.: The ownership of the building, it is my understancliltg that Ra:rdy McDonald hasr^tritt cn several lettcrs to the Plaza building asking thern to iake their dunpster outof-their.".it has gotten to the point where final 1y, Ir4rs. Ilili instalLed trash cornpacrersand instructed Donovan's bar and everybody else in the building not to use the dumlster. Gerry-: If there are no further questions, would somebody tike to rnake a motion? D1!\, The first motion would cleal with arnencling the plan ruhich does not need conditons,TfE a reconutcntlati on to Council to rccommend an anen&nent to the Urbaa Design GuidePLan. Thc second part deals with the exterj-or moclification. So thcre wj.I1 be two rnot ionsthat will bc presented on this question. PEC - page 13 - 3/9/8L Scott: I'd Like to make a motion that the Urban Design Guide Plan not be amended for Th=if-proj ect. Jirn Second G_erry: libtion by Scott Edwards, second by Jin Morgan not to amend the Vail Village Urbar 5'esfg; pfan. All those is favor? (Scott and Jirn) Opposed? (Gaynor, Gerry and Duane) Dan Corcoran abstained. The vote is 3-2 opposing the motion. Is there another not ion ? Gerry Then I will nake a motion to atnend the Vail Village Urban DEsign Gui.de Plan to-Ticl.udc this particular construction between tl'e PLaza building and the Garton Bridge St. Saloon. Is there a seond to that rnotion? Duane I second. Gerry: Moti.on for arnendmen, second b)' Duan e Piper, all those in favor of this moTTonf (Duane, Gaynor and Gerry) Opposed? (Scott and Jim) 3-? and Dari Corcoran abstains once nore. 'l'he not j.on passes. G.err.y: Now, we need a:rother motion concerning this particular project. Duane: Gerry, is there sone way that we can at- this point take the i-tems of clout or nuscie that we wanted to put as riders to this under a staff advisement for a more thorough discussion of it, or ale we at that situation leaving ou::selves totally open to the notion that werve just passed? Larry Er. The motion was rnadc without conditions and it passed. Dj.c-k: The rnotion r,,as nade specifically for the exterior modification, J.f there are othel E6idicions that you wanted to place in there, the staff has recormended 3 conditions but the planning conunission may have others. Duane 'l'iia'i.:rs u'hai-. I!n: e skistii, is i:;rer.:c a.',i y ci.,:..'-r;'::lr:lions or recctliinenrli:i iicns to ti"lir: i: TondTtiorrs? John Would you read those conditions aloud please? Dj-ck: (Rl3ad conditons on page 3 of merno) Number 5 deals with rr'orki.ng with the Casino building if that application i.s approved. It really deals with thc Wall St. side. There have becn drai-nage problems there where water runs directly into a building at times. The 3rd condition is to work out that situation,. As we note in the staff report the realty' shop that is locatcd imediately to the north of the proposals has done some inrprovenrents there which I think add dramatically to the aesthetics aLong Bridge St. The planning that has taken place there, plus the bench that is out there. So has the Coppcr bar this last year rnade irnprovements with plants and fl.owers. There can be ._ improvcrncnts along that whole corridor ivhich tie in not only with this proposal, but also relieve some of the problems that we know of in that area, drainage, aesthetics. John P. l{e ;-ould certainly do our best to solve the drainage. I feel sure that both fry El ients . . . in seel-ng tirat the walkways are brought up to the s1-andards of the Plaza Gerry I would just add one item that I think deserves sone consideration, and I think that the pc,'destrianization of Bridge St. and Gore Creek Drlve and there for a specific reason. Tltat is the heart of Vail Vi11age. That is Vai"l Village to a lot of people. I think thc hours of de1 ivery of construction nrater-Ials need to be spelled out. I dontt think those hours shoultl be after 10 in the morning or before 4 in the afterrloon. I PEC - page L4 - 3/9/81 think that blank time for deliveries, during whi.ch tirne, deliveries that have already been placed on site would be used for construction, of course. That will create somewhatof a problcm obviously for concrete, and this kind of thing, which will crcate somespecial assessments, but I do think th:Lt l{all St. should be used primarily, and thatBridge 5t. should be used only for ccrtain circumstances where Wall St, cannot be used.This is a reconmen dat ion for conditions to go along wj-th the motion for approval. Duane: Gerry, I think there are even nore itens that we nay not even be thinking about at this time specific to the building and the construction in that area. It mj.ght be simpler at this particular point just to caution staff and have staff review every aspectof the construction, both in terms of scheduling, in terms of qualtering off the area,in terrns of de1 ivery, and let that be a staff itern of the bullding inspector's departmentIn other words, there are itens that are more conplete and rnore total than just a deli-ver; time and a bLank time when deliveries cantt be made. .G_e_rry:i Are you suggesting that we postpone this until the next meeting? IggE: No, Irn sinply saying that the avenues for review of thi-s are existent under the staff, and indeed they will be reviewed, that j-s already established that we have that. 9ggtgg: Are you all concerned about the desigii *f this? Gerr{: Yes and No. itre are not concerned specifically with design. We are concerned with the usc, G_e.o-rge l\re1l,. in the design to this thi-ng have the right of the buildj-ng, Ittirat avennes does sornebody who is oppo-sed to do other than the Tom Councj"l as far as the design building infringe on a building already there? Donovanrsis concerned? How can this has windows that have been in use for 17-18 yea:rs, That window was there before anybody was her:c, {g]titi It is a coilmon prope:-ty 1ine. 9qqgg. t,'irat if that ua-s t.hr,: o;rlly liih1- spar-. ' Lha.t building, uould you have tireriSht to just block it offl? I donrt underst:rr:i, r, irrr that carr be right? .Pj""g: Can you see the reversal of that situatj-on, because that window is there, does Donovanrs have the right to say there should be no construction on a site that is plannedfor deve lopment ? Diana: It ?s not planned for developrnent. Ge"orgga It j.sntt planned for development. You just changed that. Duane: .Itts a void parcel of lanc, correct? Dick: There is an easenent through there. It j.s owned by the Casj_no George: I don't think that a:rybody planned tha.t there was going to bethere. It was not a planned plotted out 1ot, thc r.rhole thing was, but was originally built, it r,ras not planned to be built on in a separate agree to that? Now, at that time point, you have decided now that youbuild on. I{hat if I had a little business in there? ll'hat if I had a would that gi.ve you the right to destroy the business? bui l ding . a building in when the building situation, do you have a plan to hot dog stand, Duane Not EIt$way? Geo I said if it was arr approrred business. Do ;,ou have an approved business in the what if I did have? t PEC - page LS - 3/9/BL Duane; Then it would be an approved use. George I like Pamis going to happen block somebody's 16 Ger-ry: Geo, I would agree with you if it were a 20 foot corridor lined r,rith trees.However, it is not. Itrs 9 feet between the builclings, and it's an alnost unusuable and certainly an unattractive space the way it exists right now, and a window lookingto a wal1 9 feet away does not strike me as a reason. and Dan Telleen, theytre my frj,ends. Irm just concerned about wlratto this tohn. I dontt see how you got the right to go in there andyear window for the benefit of another building. 9gg"ge It does not look into that wal1.You cannot even Gaynor; I wouldiTffiGre put on by June lst? .Crrf e: Sc vou p',-r sh thc con.ct:1.,r'ir.t cn pro,i *c1: ira clithis u.,, i:,i,t .,.busir,cs:. John: I think we can provi-<ic an ent r.y to the f;eofiTe into their busriress, aird that *u, orru Gerry: I would have to say that one ofSt. side of the project be kept as clean like to address the proposers of this. How would they feel if the irnposito start it imnediately after ski season and sustantially complete it window. It looks right straight across Gartotr's deck upthe plaza where the Childrenrs fountaj_n is. you haven'lup and dolrn the street, and you didnrt go into Donovanrs GeIr{: ltre are going to have to move on to some l<ind of see the wall out of Gartoirts onto that hill out there into even been in there, You walked and look out that window. not ion . i::to J'";::lr c:: -tu j.1'" r-i:: d I hli-: tc ke'.^,p l,:ringin j busj-ness. Cyrancrs has maneged to get of the reasons why the door -n-as .. Cple And just let it sit unti.l October Jlst? lg[t:f I!n trying to get a point ov alleviating construction problens as much as possible John Gaynor, I donrt think thatrs possible, because r,re haventt even started contlactdocuinents and we have to go to the council. Geo: lthy to council? Dick: O'a plan a:nendment r.ihich is the first thing they voted on. be left open and orderly, frorn that entrance. the conditions would have to be as po,ssi-b1e, that the entrance that the Bridge to Pistachio 's way taklng awaythat there is nothing obstructing it or in any Dan C Ithy are the Bridge st. merchants any nore inportant than the wal 1 st ones? Dick .I received a phone call from some of the people in the Lazier building no1.e and that were concerned about the next request, about the disruption that vrould takethe fact that they did go thiough a fal 1 thi-s year vrith thc constructiontook place, and there were signs that wcre only half visible at ti*es,concerned that why should they have the burden 2 years in a row on that who were place there of the plaza and they side ? ll:rn C The merchant s on i{al 1o?-Tfth the redoing of trralIlast year. St. have been disrupted 3 years in a row that I can thi-nkSt., the redoing of the redoing, and then the construct.ion Jin ftrs not evcn a logic;'rl progrcssion of the nnterials to go dorn and cone up. yourre E6rning up a full levcl jrrst to g-t to where you are wor:king, whcreas, on Bridge st,you are on a straight... PEc page 16 - s/9/8I GerTy Rather than decideI think be nost concernedVillage. We're trying not in terms of what is easiest for the contractor, we will wi-th what is nost inportant in terms of the character of Vail to disrupt the flow of pedestrians, etc. Robert 0liver Is it the interest of this board to keep in mind the Ffiestm;Uation of Bridge st' and the Village corc? (yes) rhen, do you take decisionsto increase pedestriani zation, or to increase a greater vehicular ...,. Gerry This is not a criteria for approval or disapproval, one can be interpreted in wither way by a number of people ll'ur C The vehicular problem as it pertains to the zoning ordinance only applies toffi-finished product. Constmction vehicles i.s addressing tt.te other municipaf coae. Robert 0liver There are certain problems that are immediate, the sunner of 1981, andther€ are othGr problems that ....:..continuing..we go through years anp years of the Town of Vail supaenaing people to try to create a rna1l act and you fight hard to tryto better thc conditions j-n the pedestrian core, but in the sane breath, the nexr year you turn around, and not necessari.ly destroy, but weaken it with more construction. Another consideration is how much money did the lbwn of Vail pay Gage Dbvis to do thisstudy? hhy do you go out and pay highiy professioral advice and turn around andsa1', t'trter 11 rnake an anendnenttt? GeFy*: No, the motion was based on a dj.sagreement with that particular part ofthe Urban Design Guide Plan and the objection to that part of it r,ras voiced at tl're tine thatit was made by me. I donrt happen to think that particular area qualifies as a viableal1ey that need-s to be preserved. It doesn't nean Irn agairist al1eys, I just don't thinkthat qualifies as an alley, ?female: I have lived in Vail a1l my 1j.fe and uoulrl much rather see a $hop therethan garbage. I think itrs a good thing. If you put the walkway in yout11 get ice anclsnobr, The cover could cave i.n. !:f:y 'i'l::':i )t you, ir,re a::e goinll to hirtri] i:o malie l,- :,roiion ancl procecrl." '1'o desi.gnateally one proj ect a.s rea11y ihe nrajor contt'j-L)utor' ..ir tli,l one project t-het rill not be allow due to disruption of tire village corc, fj-r. s1. of ali. -i s impc-rssible, arci secondly, ifyou are going to do it, you have to stop then a11. you can,t stop one pr:oject. you are right, it is a very busy summer, in conmercial core I. The REd Li.on expansion, theGranshanner expansion, the Brldge st. saloon expansion if it is approved. itts u. 1r"rydisdruptive sun er, And I tend to agree, that perhaps there should be some kind of anhistoric overlay zone placed on it aitcr this yiar oi sone other zone, and say "Thisis the way it r,rilt be period" But, at thi-s point in tine, in ter:ns of this pioject,f don't think that we are in a position to siy that, Geo ..if you put then on different weeks, we cantt figirt thern all at once..,. .I think a.t this point, we have to nake a notion one way or the other. We have sone that are approved and we canrt shut it off. lVe can voice this sane concern to the Council interrn-s of the futrire. There areof projects in the rnill now is the Doint. Diqk: George, one thing I?d like to add is when thcse projects went thru initially,and whcn they c arne up r^rith the new process for consirlcrition of projects, the question was asked the Planning Corunission and also the Council, is there no change that shouldtake place furthcr in the Villagc? And thc answer came our, there is the possiblilityof change to take place j.n Vail Vi11age. 'ltrat change can takc place, anii lhere was no . Gerry Duane PEC page 17 3/9/8L guide line or requirernent or anything that said from now on nothing can change, So that did go in front of the Planning Corunission, it did go in front of the CounciL and that is what came out of the Council and Planning Cornmission at that time. George I think it is unfortunate, I clontt think there has been a lot of forsight fi tEe thinking of the Town staff, the Design Review Board, the Pla:rning corunission or the Town Council . And surely from the town people nore people haven't come in to say what they have to say about whatrs happening to this town. I'1L probably sit here and lratch Bridge St. be totally destroyed again this sumner. I wouldnrt be surprised if it is torn up again next suruner, stt. Dan:T. Irn not sure that talking about one project or even a series of projects is the Eo-frtion to the whole thilg, and have a question to Larry, is there a possibility of solving this problem by having sornething somehow, pass an ordinance that every other year will be i construction year, and that 1983 will be a non constrllction, people who Lought property would know that when they bought it, and any Pl.ans that they would nalce r,iould hive to be for 1984, etc. one year would be good, one year rr'ouldnrt. Larry E. Feasible to pass a1l ordinaace, I think you'd have sone prolrlens. I think you an ordjnance, if the scheduling is reasonalbe, artd the same people who ask to build, then I tirink you could pass an or- in a reasonable fashion construction ar:rl rvhen it could be ,!L. can schedule construction in criteria are applied to all dinance r+hich rvoul d rezulate done . D]rane: It is unfortunate wirat is going on here, but at tine same ti-lrtc, there was almost i y",rr put jxto worksirops, etc. to come to thi-s Design Plan, and i.f there had been enougl people like you who felt there should be no rnore building, then I think that was sone- tning ttrat should have bcen taken up. Apparantly, that wasntt the cveniding view, anci it seems like when it comes down to someone next docr, it starts hi'i:ting home,/ George I said that the people harrenrt taken an inter:est in doing it, and I agree tfiIi?nere are al1 awfuf ly fot of pcopl.c tr'ho are really mote here 9q::+:a- l- tr.t.le to i'i r.rt:i;-f,sc irll c; l..il.ey l'):r'i,'t .xc'i: r'ri.i.l: ';ll':, conclitc,ns a-5 ir':.r:rlrlnoir.de d by 1;t3,.' Ircl s.ure f:ke to pu'i: a j,ittJ.c j:l.;j:'e tcc.:'i;ri.r, this ihi:rg. J ilrnrt knc-r'; whe::e the De-sigr: Revicr,r Do:-rd get.'; i-nto :ii., and !,'.,: r,::;: dre build-ii:g t:t"'-.' e gots j-rto I sti11 think it ought to be started by a certain line. Gerry And that there would be sone restrictions in terms of delirreries, etc, as have afreaay becn noted. Woulcl you like to include that? Duane: Could we further amend this to say, trHave an item #4, that the applicant agrees Eo-TEfie* uith the planning and environnental commission a staff -a1:p::oved constructi-on plan at a later date. Hcre is what I'n g,etting at. That rvould allo',v for another public meetj.ng, not just a staff approval in that office, but a public meeting of the approval of the construction plan.: The constl.rrctiou plan would be dcfined as the schedul -.of rnaterials delivered, schedule of tirnes of dellvery, etc. So long as it didlrt schedule out the suruner of 198I, Dan do you have a feeling that one way or the other, ? Duanc: It would be to::eview with the PEC at afuiuremeetj-ng a staff-approved plan ofTI; construction scherlul ing arlcl planter construction . 'Ihat rnerely gets to r'rhat werve been discussing here before about lctrs not rnake delivcries after 10 or befote 4 in the cvening, etc. l{e havenrt rea1ly touc.ired on sll of these points, but these are I PEC page 18 3/9/8L points that I would like your architect to go over with the Town Staff, the buildinginspector' whoever else would be involved with this, and then have it reviewcd pubricryfor another mceting with the PEC. This, I think rnay help alleviate sone of the-problemsthat.keep reappearing in our discussion as to what we are tearing up" when we aretearing, when we are delivering rnaterials, where, storage of nrateriais, no. of vehicles,etc. D{t L First of a11", it-is not ny project. secondly, one thing that nakes ne verymhappy is the more meetings that wL go to, the less ihance to eonplete it. I have a notion on that I havenrt even finished it not ion . BetY J love to approve the Alley project with thecondiiions as recommended by thestaff, 1,2,3, , SF{ a:,there a second? Then I will second it. A11 in favor? (Gerry., Gaynorand uuanej opposed? (scott and Jim) Dan cclrcora:r abstains, notion prsi.r"-if anyone rrculd like to apPeal this approval, can do so within 10 days to the ToMlCounci1 . to add that the Tor,rn Council will be dealing with the planneeting which is coming up a week frorir this co*ing f""ldrt,of this, and you are a1l invited back to the Town Councii J,rrn: 6eorge, I would appreciate it if you would put a petition together such asthat' and if you even.put a petition for a rnoratorirun on building within the village.lndayb e you can get some pcon1i irnified rt gets a little old, but no one seems Lo wanrto stand ui: and do anything about it. Gaynor: read the li"k I would just like anrendment at their next There wiil be discussion meeting on the 17th. i,{inutes continued on page 1g yet.Betsy., would you re PEC page 19 s/9/81 The next iten on the a enda is th exterior a1t erati.on and modif ^.+:c Casi-no lluildin lSr conment s . Peteri This project is located adjacent to the alley, to the northwest, It is a proposal for a 2 story office addi-tion, would be located exactly in the area wher:e Gartonrs deckis existing. The statistics here are approximately !!f^sq feet of office spaces proposed on that deck in a two story proposal . To go quickiy/iflFi.r the Urban Design Guide Plan criteria, we feel that the project neets the purpose of the CCI district as outlinedin the zoning code. There have been rt;o sub-area concepts relating to this p1an. In other words, the Urban Desi.gn Guide Plan did not have any specific addressing of this As far as pedestriani zation goes, the office addition wonrt affect pedestriani zat iol on l'rtall St. Of course, wetve had a discussion here today in terns of pedestriani za:uior disruption during construction. Again, that is not part of ey. rer,iet^r, we review these on the basi.s of as-built as developed. It may jncrease the vaiiety of pedestrian path near the south entry way by having pavers natching the village plaza pavers and connectingthat paver-.area into the plaza design. And, of course, John will go through the detailsof more of the proposal . Vehicle penetration: It would not in any way affect vehiclepenctration in any significant way. Streetscape franework: The soul:hwest corner of the bui.lding is supposed to be a curved form and would attract atl,enti-on and sornewhat soften that corner of the buildj-ng as the pedestrian goes north fr:om the village plaza dorrn the stairway. The street enelosur:e is the biggest issue in this project and has beer.r the iten of most concern drtring Planning Conrnission and Council reviews previously. Irve includeci a chartin the merno, hopefully helping you with understandi.ng what the existing and proposedstreet enclosure j.s. As you recall, the Urban Design Guide Plan had designatecl a comfo::ta- b1e stree-u enclosurc of approximately 1i2 to 1, 7/2 be ing the height of tlre bui.1<iing, as opposed to the width of the street. ln oilrcr words, a cornfortable rati.o rroui d be,if the street was 30 f,eet wide, the building would be 15 feet. As it cxi-sts, now, ihecasino Building tn the wall street side is aL l/2 to l. The proposal is to be atI.16 to I or a litt1e nolr: 1-llai: the h'j-{',trlr of th: ji:.'set . 0n the oti:cr side it i.s vcr;zta11, it'ri 1.36 to 1 as it c:.r:ists nor,r, :rird tliiri- plopsl,al, is of cr:urse, unchzLnged. 'l'he design considerations, uhen the Llrban f-tcsign Gulde plan was done and acccpted bythe Town as the guiding document, provided for exceptions to these cj-rcunstances in certaircases. These circumstances being thc street en.closure. and Ird just like t.o rearl quickly what the provision for that was: fn some instances, the rcanyont effect rr'oul d be acceptable and could be created connectinglarger spaces rvith a srnall Darrow space, and it said, ttin some inslances the canyoneffect is acceptable and even desirable. For example, as a short connecting linkage between larger spaces--to give variety to the r.ralklng experience. For sun;r5i13.de reasons,it is often advantageous to orient any Ionger segnents in a north-south diTectiol'r Long canyon streets in an east-west direction should generally be cliscouraged," It goes on to say,'rl\4ren exceptions to the general height criteria occur, spccial dcsign consider;rtion should bc givel to creating a rrrel1-defined ground floor pedestrian erlphasisto overcotne the canyon effect.rt Itrs a staff opinion that l{al. 1 Street is one of these connecting linkage-s to la.rger: spacesbeing thc village plaze ancl the Childrenrs Fountain area. lr'c feel- that there is a strongpossiblility that the Oesign lrlan was spccifical ly addlessing lValJ.5t. when they talkedabout exccptions to the canycn effect. In thab legard, we feel that strect cuclosur:e issrte docs fal.l into thi-s r-.xception, and is not contraly to tlre purpose behind thc Urlran Dcsigrr Cuide plan x PEC page 20 -3/e /8r As far as stTcet edge goes, on wa1 1 st. there is no change on the street edge Near the entrance to the alley proposal, I had that the proposal should be cut back if the a1ley was not approved. These-two projects are soner^lhai related in certain design and instances. llowever, we are definiately considering then separately. As far as the views go, the view rnap for the Urban Design Guide Plan does show a najor view corridor from the area of the Childrenrs Fountain toward Vail Mountain. The additi"on does intrude to a minor degree on the eastern edge of that cor'ridor, but in no signi-flcant tnanner, In fact the buildings south of the Casino Building, do cut off the view alreacly and the proposal would not, in any significant way affect that view corridor. As far as the sun/shade goes, I think John is going to give us some more infornation today. In the sunner, when the sun rsould be in a very high position, the addition could cause more shade on Wal 1 St. l\/e don't feel that that period of tine l.{ould be a signifi-- cantly long period over the course of a year, and I think John inay have some mo::e infor- nation, but we feel that Wa11 St. is already an enclosed area, and sun/shade is a rninor consideration. Zoning code considerations, there is one, the alley project has been approved today, and one of the relationships between the a1 ley project and the office addition is that one of these ruould requi-::c a height variance. A:lcl l:ccausc vrerre nort' --the way that CCI height is calculated, that is both of these got approlied, one of the:n r+ould need a height variance. And the office atldition was mistakenly published fcr: a height variance, and as far as publ j.cati-on, rvetre o.k. on that- But that rr'ill be a requirenent, and we will have to take a vote on that. Our recornmednation would be to approve the heigl.t variance. Our teconmendattion on this p::oject is approval of the office ad<lition rrith the five condit-ions that we have set forth, and if you 1ike, I can read them cff at this point so everybody understands what they are. 'fhe first one is tha.t the appl icant agrees to pal'tj.c j"Pate in and not remonstrate against- a. ,spee ial inproverrrett d.istrict, if a.nd r,rh en forned for Vaj-l Villagc; the applicant viill subrnit a l:equest for a Conditional Use pernit to allorr the use of an office on the 5rd 1eve1 ; the applicant wi1l wor:k out a.n agreenent Jirri t i.r.r. l i1' acceptable to l'hr,t Tcwn, the e.t:pJ.i r:. alit airtl. ci:l.L,1t itris.i_r.es s ol,rt pi':; in ihe Casino il'; j i.i:-.'.:l as to crJnst:'uc'.'t j riii .ictrc,juic-s e.l) r.: f)1..r-{,: i. -;i-: r.-r J t.f , th.e-.i rj.l..:;i.u;,b:,i:ccs of ex j,st j.lrg b'itsi;:g:,'s.;s are hcpt to a1 ;1!1.,91ute mj.nili.'., .1 li 4., ,-, r-^ : f :,..1. ; c 1:iirii- l:]ils; i-. j iir'!lj('ve the a.r- ea frort tl:e Plaza. to hi-s cnlra.rice r','ith sinii a.r' :::aleri::is used in tire p1a za.; li5 is irlelevairt.at this point, hotrever, I should mentj,on it in case the Planning Comrnission decj.sionis reversed: Lf the al1ey project is denied, the applicant cut back 1-.he proposal onthe first level to let adequate light and air into the alley opening. I think John can explain what tt'e mean by that . Those are ou,t: Tecotrr.:lendat ions " Gerry: Connients from the applicalt? John Perkins : I hope my voice ni1l hold up for this. Do you need me to go throughEle plan- an,t everything, or are you sti1l.... gl I have one question. $lhere is the 3rd floor office? I onty see two floors. John Sce, thatrs takiug the height from l',rall St, Dai:" There are o*\y 2 floors.If youta[e it from lrrall St, it's 3 floors. Peter fiie other propos:rl wi.ll have to go through thc conditona.l use proce-ss also, becausethat was at a late date changed from residential to office. Any third floor office isa conditional use undcr the zonirrg code. T Dave 9-arton: He (John) cantt.tark_very welr, He appeared in front of you guys abouta nonth ago or so, and.the major change that he has- ilere is what was asi<ed Io, o. recom-nended by you. Instead of having an interior 2nd floor walkway that was going to bein the back, that to open this area up here, that r.re have an exterior waliway] whichis the change we made. PEC page 2L 2/e /8r Duane Could someone explain the height variance problern. I donrt understand thar. nas nevel: been proposed as a.n additon, but it f iri-s i.s Nei 1 McCarrn frorn oui: office. I rm these srur/sirade 5gu4iq5. They are sma]I... :SgI:. John, let ne just -try to explai.n it without having to go through the figures.When the Guide Plan was adopted, there was a new height riquiriment aaipted along withthat for the Vi11agc. A certain % o! the building cL b" r,rp to 40 fect, and a certarn%- 9an be up to 30 feet. lr'ith the approval of the a11ey pro;".t, v.,e have a E1,;eater vofa11i'ng into the 50 foot-category, ""a it pushes the t'otats in a way that the rest can'tg-:.:Y:" 30 feet, and he is going over 30 feet. Both ar:e considered part of the Casinorru 1 -t Cl lng . Garton: It is? lthy does it have to be considered part of the casir:o buirding? Pet-er: What do we considcr it? It is proposecl as an arldition to the Casino builcing. John: Itts on the sane property. It i.s _ tcchuically on the saine property. golng to 1et Neil cone up and ihor.r you N."lt ' . This first couple shorv the 9:00 a.n. shador.,r on June 2l which is the -suruners?1:tlce' The top one shotcs rr-ithout the addition, and this one shov;s with theaddition' Now this is the nrost extreme case, cause at 2:i0 there ,isnrt nuchdifference between the addltion and the existing. By noon, there j.s no sharlow c'srat all fron the addition or the cieck a-s j.t is, anil so aftelnoon, tlte Lazier Arcade beconesthe predoninant sha<!ow, and. tiren during the equrnox, lviar:ch 2l and sepf. 21 , r,re have siririlarconditions tvhere the Plaza buirciing at 9:00 orclock rr,j- 11 ca-.it a sira-r1:rr, co./cring mostof the area of whcre Gartonrs deck is *-,,1 i,rrr oi: lial I street. 'r.Ji rir t-he addition ofthe office space, not nruch nore shadow rvil 1 be ce.et, as ycu can see " At 10: J0, titet:e l::':.'::tttt-1f .a -siSnific.ant chengc bei,,,cel the .sr,r,i.irr.:; yj.th the actdj,tior or i..,j.riiourr./'rro LIlcli' i'L :locn' i"3ain, thc::t: aLe tro shadoirr;. ; ':-:1. of 'the sh;r cli;1,' is ca.st- ll7- i1r" La;.r-erl\rcade. L'rl then, Ll:e rrrost. ci:":rirra.tic: or'," iu g;0c e;rr:.lnr:li on'D;;";,,;;r,.-lr]"''ni"ri or i'.is in shadc just because ihe P j.aza bu5.l cling ca.:;ts sl.ier1e, 3 ^shacloi,; al L the ro,ay $a-ck toJtere' Tlie darker porticn is dral'm to show wirat tLre aclclit i. on wil 1 ci-,st. r di<1n't drawlincs" 'because the Plaza.buildin! o,r*totr"t o,"a tlie additior.r. And then at 1.0:J0 on Dcc21, shows the light shining r.trlgrri-"p the cor.ridor ancl if y;"";;;-'i"ii,'in" darkerportion is the casino office aildition, lnd the lighter portion is t1e cast fron the plazaBuilding, a:rd they are- virtually the ,a*", a.,,r thcn at iroon again, the light coming inwith the predoninant shade from tL"-f,nri"" Arcacle. . G_er:rJ_: Thank you . John, do you have .:]g!U. I don't think 56, I think l,veqrrestlons. some nore corrn:ent -s ? been through this so many tilles, Irll jusr answer Dan T' : I tnt Dan Tclleen, and r otun the Silversnith shop th:rt. i-s di::ectly underneaththc deck' I was at the-last r""aing iiia yo,, hacl with tire l'ovm council. r expressedthe same concerns that I'rn going io'u*ft"r, no.,u" There are two: Fi::st of all, r justrealized that con-struction ["pp;n;:-;;itu in a booin toili1 , and Dave ancl I wirl just haveto t.,'ork or-rt the impact on my tlsiness. llut, r,4rat I,m woiried about mor-e than this su*mer PEC page 22 2/9/81 is next year and the year after that, and the year after that. Itve got to rnake sure that whatever he builds up there will not irnpact my business with the kind of nolse that Irm used to getting frorn people walking ".to!s the deck right now, and I don't know how hers going to stop the noise frorn happening. I'm sure we can put in'a good ttroor' the best ihan they can provide, but Dr. i1utt.r"t put i.n the best ceiLing he could get in Kentucky Fried Chicken, and he stil1 has noisc down there, so Itrn really worried about how the project itself in the long run is going to affect rny business. And the second thing is the construction on it. I hope that however it's built, itrs built best. Irm in a weak structure right now that was bui"].t rnaybe before Vail even thought about having a bui,lcling code, and rve've got to make sure that itts r:eally done righi, all the stuciies are rnad-, and we rurderstand that the foundation that is there is-strong enough to holcl 2 nore stories, or if itrs not, that the 2 storics that are built are built correctly so that they are strong and not dangerous. Duane: Comment to Dants remark-s, Irm sure that rltis comrnission fully agrees with what youfre saying. I tm not sure that we have the bouncis wj-thin what we r';ork with to address ihat partLcuiar problem. I ruould hope through bullding codes that so:ne of those problens would be adclressed. Again, it would corne through building inspectj-on and staff and also just a good conscientious effort between the owner and the architect specific to that ionstruition" and I trn sure hers heard your renarks also, Do you ha.','e ;lnythitlg to address to it, John? John: i{e11, Dan & I discussed this problern, and right now r.that I an fjoing to Propose Ts ?e-'noving the extcrior deck, r,erifying v;l-rat kind of rocf structul'e he has, and then leaving an air space between that roof, or if that r:oof needs to be ui.rgraded, upgrade it first, leave in aj,r space between there, except at the bearing pcjnts, and then try possibly a tectile type of floor on the deck t-hai j.s a light wei-ght cnnctete deck. !'t'ithout iescrtciting it in gr:e:rt detail. We will go into it in great detail 1:o try Lo solve tirose pr.oblems. A1 so Irvc spoken vrith Steve about the foolings tirat have been put in titere, Itve a1 so t:rlkeci with l,:itch 1lo1'1 t*'1t o ir-rst.a.l1cd t.lrer!, l^ie rq,i11 have ant investlga-tion of those: footi.ngs with Steve Patterson prcscnt. D:n-r J'.. : Jll,,,o 'L.,rh at i)'\,' el' ll-inrl cf ;:oof yot lllli- cl) :'.,' i:::-h. u i:ncl tberc llj '! 1 l:e 1l''at air qrJir.;,f1l 'ilrc:r'c is a Leali, ancl irerve h:C lerl',s irr ;..t:,.:: roof, hoiir r'.'il1 i.:e 3et: i,t fixecii' Iln also wo.,-.'r icd .,i)r. ilutturer t':.th his fanr:y c:e-i.l-i.r!, in ltetri:ur:ky Ijri.r:ci Ciri.cl;cn -stoppcrJ- the rroi-se fron coning thlu the cciJ.ing, but it corri.l,s; r-j..gllt down tL:e i,'f,si;s. 'Ihe posts are rr'hat the sound out. .vibrate..thatts where th*- sound cones fron. I know thesc vtil1 be off ices, and I donrt expect a lot of problcras llrc;n t.he a.ctivity cf a carpe ted off j'cel but what I norried about ii that if that walkway that goes in the fr:t:r'rt of the building i-s a. walkr,ray to successful shop-s and offices and really attrilctive art,l people l{ant to walk in there. I think itts 6 feet fron the fronl: of my shop, that nil1 have that trafi^ic constantly going back a.ncl forth. Right norrr I get it in thc evening f.rorn the bar business and once in a while there is a party in thc afternoon of rugby player:s. Itrs not often. but a dai.ly thing, I'nr afrai.d it might be too much.. Duane: Dan, your concerns are nore under th'e jurisdiction of the br"rilding inspection TeplrTment than they woulcl be under ours, i{ar::cn Pulis: I think our conccrns are pretty nuc}r the sane as the alley project.. l,, GolTt mite) Stevc Patterson: lltou ld it be nossible if we could ;Ifiil an;ic.fition, and discuis both projects and John: I can show you on the :nodel. see an elevation, if the architect hor'r they rclate to each other, G*.Uj_ I think j.n terns of this public neeting, that is sonething that. can be done at -sonle other. tine, certainly in the building dcpi,:tnent. i t :... PEC page 23 2/9/8I Dave Garton: I would just like to cornnent on rec.omnendation #4 says that the applicant nust lmprove the area fron the Plaza with si.mi.lar materials used in the plaza. I think thatts just a 1itt1e bit of an overage job. We'Il nake everything on the Casilro land be up to standards of the sarne material uscd in the plaza, but I dontt feel that I should improve Donovanrs land from rny land to the plaza. I think thatts sornebody elsrs respon- sibility, Irn not going to tear up that 1and. If I were to do some damage, of course I would return it to jts previous situation, but I dontt feel that I should be responsible for fixing the path in front of Donovan's. Dick: That's Town of Vai"l property. Dick: l{e11, it was the feeling of staff that if this najor inprovement was goi"ng to take p1ace, that we should compl ete that r^,'1-lo1e area" . Dave; Sure, but not out of my pocket book. Dave: Then, I donrt feel that I all our property up to snuff, but going to the plaza. Dick': Well, thatrs a re;.:if nunendat ion of s';aff endcd at that location a:rd I doubt if tiic Town and complete the r:est of that this next year. Dave: We11, then I r.rould ask the comni.ssion, be rny respon-sibili"ty to fix up ToMl property. Irn required to do, and I approve. of that, but the improverncrts of the Town property. lhrane: In review of that, do rie have arry'i.hi:rg GTie talki-ng about? should have to fj-x up Town of Vail property. Irll keep l shouldntt have to fix up the Tovn of Vail Property that the Tom conunit tci't, to do the piaza is going to have the uroney to go througir or I would suggest that that shouldnrt I rr'ill bring mine up to the levei that I donrt think I should have to pay for to r lictr what this no-lia.rl3 s 1anc1 is that T tlought'r1",::.1: thc Tcr.rn of Yri. l ha".s i,i;::r'r:lrc:C up to the I'rro;r..ri.y Ij.nc" Dj.cll: l,lor uo have not, i,'erve oiily impi:,..' "i,'d to t.lr:,, ;,ri:;c of llo:rcvants. John: This doesnlt really show the p1aza. Dave i:; tal.king ahout this area appaoxinately Trom here to about these steps. ilis ob15-gatioir r,'or.rld go right here..... llan C.: Then actually the Totrnts propelty is rj..ght here, and half of Donove.n's deck f-on the Tol^rn propel ry. I don?t ieel that since all we have there now was an al1ey that i-sn't being used by anybody t-hat the Tor,rn should have to pay to irlprovc this to provide the access to the additional shops. The I'oim would not hat'e to do anything at all in there if those shops werenrt there because tiiis is an a11ey tllat nobody uses. Duane: Wel1, I suppose the Toran stil1 woul'dnrt have to do anything. D* Q, , No. ltlell, Itd be on sornebody, coming in rny front (change of tape) Irn sure that once this t-he Tortrn Or trthoerrer to doo::, . projcct were there, if I h,ere in that building, have soirrethirrg there besj.des a. dirt wal }<way PEC page 23 2/9/8I Dave Garton: I would just like to cornnent on rec.omnendation #4 says that the applicant nust lmprove the area fron the Plaza with si.mi.lar materials used in the plaza. I think thatts just a 1itt1e bit of an overage job. We'Il nake everything on the Casilro land be up to standards of the sarne material uscd in the plaza, but I dontt feel that I should improve Donovanrs land from rny land to the plaza. I think thatts sornebody elsrs respon- sibility, Irn not going to tear up that 1and. If I were to do some damage, of course I would return it to jts previous situation, but I dontt feel that I should be responsible for fixing the path in front of Donovan's. Dick: That's Town of Vai"l property. Dick: l{e11, it was the feeling of staff that if this najor inprovement was goi"ng to take p1ace, that we should compl ete that r^,'1-lo1e area" . Dave; Sure, but not out of my pocket book. Dave: Then, I donrt feel that I all our property up to snuff, but going to the plaza. Dick': Well, thatrs a re;.:if nunendat ion of s';aff endcd at that location a:rd I doubt if tiic Town and complete the r:est of that this next year. Dave: We11, then I r.rould ask the comni.ssion, be rny respon-sibili"ty to fix up ToMl property. Irn required to do, and I approve. of that, but the improverncrts of the Town property. lhrane: In review of that, do rie have arry'i.hi:rg GTie talki-ng about? should have to fj-x up Town of Vail property. Irll keep l shouldntt have to fix up the Tovn of Vail Property that the Tom conunit tci't, to do the piaza is going to have the uroney to go througir or I would suggest that that shouldnrt I rr'ill bring mine up to the levei that I donrt think I should have to pay for to r lictr what this no-lia.rl3 s 1anc1 is that T tlought'r1",::.1: thc Tcr.rn of Yri. l ha".s i,i;::r'r:lrc:C up to the I'rro;r..ri.y Ij.nc" Dj.cll: l,lor uo have not, i,'erve oiily impi:,..' "i,'d to t.lr:,, ;,ri:;c of llo:rcvants. John: This doesnlt really show the p1aza. Dave i:; tal.king ahout this area appaoxinately Trom here to about these steps. ilis ob15-gatioir r,'or.rld go right here..... llan C.: Then actually the Totrnts propelty is rj..ght here, and half of Donove.n's deck f-on the Tol^rn propel ry. I don?t ieel that since all we have there now was an al1ey that i-sn't being used by anybody t-hat the Tor,rn should have to pay to irlprovc this to provide the access to the additional shops. The I'oim would not hat'e to do anything at all in there if those shops werenrt there because tiiis is an a11ey tllat nobody uses. Duane: Wel1, I suppose the Toran stil1 woul'dnrt have to do anything. D* Q, , No. ltlell, Itd be on sornebody, coming in rny front (change of tape) Irn sure that once this t-he Tortrn Or trthoerrer to doo::, . projcct were there, if I h,ere in that building, have soirrethirrg there besj.des a. dirt wal }<way PEC Dick page 24 2/s/8L specifically that we should get together to work on that improvement,. building, no roatter whose prop- too , but I th ink Dololranr t s -shoul d share Cc'unci1 and el'erything else-- half offor all c,f his? I rcouid 99IE: -Ihe alley project, one of the conditions wa^s approved both by the planning comroi-sion_and the applicant that- the applicaat would ugree 1o the improvernents irecessary toconprete the walkway fron the Viltage plaza to the shop entrance and to work with othcrusers in the first floor of the Casino building to irnpiove the sidewalks, so it wouldreal1y be a sharj"ng kind of a project. I don'i think that it is the To#'s responsibilityto provide a walkway up to your building. Iayet I donrt think that I should have to pay for.., Gemy : , . improvenent s , even though they ' re go ing to yourGFff-they'1s- sn. Pave:. I.guess I gr:t:,-as_Dan was sayingr.that would be rny responsibility, if I havetenarts in there, if I decide_ to irnprove tny project to havl a better warkwiy, then Iwould corne to the Tor"m-and ask you io put it-in. If you said no, rrd way, ""tt, do yo,,mind if I put it in? I cantt see wher-e r could be required at this point-to.... 9teIe: I might put sonething in on that building code that any huiding rvil1 ha,ve a,pprovedaccess to the pub11c right-of-way. The building department coltd,. . $*p: lvell, -itrs a public right-of-way that wetre speaking of here that's being irnproved.Dave, you prefer to take a wait and see attitude as to whether or not itrs really treces-sary, is that what yourre saying? _ Itrs a little bit like a user,s tax i,n essence. youare. saying that you are irnproving your building, and this ,,ci11 be used. ARe you ivitlingto have a taxation to it? IgYg: l{e11, _ 1'11 pay if soneone else will pay,a little of thai. Just because hets on the ior,nthat goes st.raight to his ba::. r*lhy shcuJ.cl I pay wo,.r l cl persorral ly with that ? just ildd that this is reconnenclecl as agl'ee that it shoutd be a corrrlition a condi t ion for app:. cval , and I fg1- ;:p'i1'svp ] . .i rl'e j'ou j n agrc+;:..:nt. Dave :. Gejry: Dave: Obviously, Irrn not in It will have to be, Itlay I ask permiss ion agreenent, or f wouldn?t have brought it up. though, to approve th j.s and sc::atch co:rdj_t j-on #4 ? Ger::y: You may ask permission to do that. !qyg: ltrould you? g*11.,^t.:]l]ll-1h": if-there is arr improvenent district, even if it,s only for the 3people rnvolved, and I brought it up, I donrt think itis fair for a property owner toinprove it, but you wouldnrt be coming to this board, you'd be corning to the council .If I wcre a mcntbet of the Council and after this thi.ng had been approved, you thenare beating on the Council rs door saying, I want sonething put in here really nice likethe rcst of the To rrrn , )'ou r d be real haid pressecl to bend ny ear. r do agrec with you,r agrcc tvi.th you that you shouldn't have to pay to put it on the Tor,nr proferty, but rdonrt think the Tom is obligated to irnprove it any rnore than it is right now. Dave: Absolutell,, and I agree rvith t- PEC page 25 2/e /81 !98: Absolutely, and I agree with Steve Patterson, Itrn going to have to go along withhis policy that,.out to the public right-of-way. I just think that this is passing thebuck along to someone e1se. Duane: This is directed toward staff. Is #4 a 1ittle bit redundant of #1? In otheri6;At, #1 says.,we would possibly urake a special improvenent district, and uncler a special improvement district, one of the things they might do would be to inprove thi-s portionof walkway that is on the Town of Vail land. Is that conect? YouLie saying, r^re naynot have to do that if you have an agreenent that says the applicant rai11 do it. Dick: Ihe walkway is currently /ou step off pavers down into a dirt wa1k, and thatts w-hatl1 there today, and the feeling of staff is that with the building approval , thereshoutd be simi.lar type of treatnent up to the entry of this building. G,e:!r: I must say r agree with that. lr/etre looking at. ]ierre looking at a fairly minirnal expense, really, if it cornes down to dollars a:rcl eents, and it should be a partof the project, and approval should be, in. rny opinion, conclitioned on that, as reconrmendeclby the staff. Dave :Do you real1y think I should irnprove the walkway to Donovan's? qgly-, This is not a per:sonal vendetta. Tliis is a eoritliti.cn of appr:ova1, ancl i't isthe sane condition that h/as put against the a1ley proj ect, ald I rt'oir]. d reaC once again,recontmendati.on #1, that i:;, the appr icant agt:ees to partrcipate in ,-nC not remonstra.teagainst a special improvement district. Tlie spcciai irnprovenient dj-strict r,ri11 be theone that will most certainly be pu.t together to foot tlri-s. Dave:I approve of that, but then.rtre donrt G""ltt' I think rre do. I thinlt a speci"al i:npr.ovenent d j"strict ilntrc : liil':;:,t I s l:he or"lr er c,f the 'i:tl.;-:; -'';.r Ll'lc-i. e eat-i ier', ;': , i to need #4.. because it tceds to that kind of floats happen ::-ight away, and lil:.c a cloud. :,:cr,e rif 1this" or since iiir.l,r; 1t i.r r' ''i.r-tioq!'in; i+ me. we need. i.t is soneth i'r:tg Crpler ila::? Shoul 11 l:a pa), fcrr j.!rl-'.'t-i,76) iris !lc1-lell-..', j:,c iirj,i:.jti Ii. lli-cll: I elontt hnolv hol:)/crlr plri ce a con<l j.i-r:'l-; on di j.F :_f sctlecne t r. li,:,.i. Ittn say.ing. I dcnt t see how you can recpre st it of project, so I donrt think it's in keeping people rr'ho rsould have to pay for eccess to D:igk: .Recause youtre goi.ng through a pioccss of the Tor,in of Vail right now requestinga specific. type of thing to take place, like the Tell.eens. fhere r*as a conditionsi.mi.lar in that request. Dave: But I couldn't compi.ain about that. I think they should have conplained.ThEI shouldntt be respo,rsible for that whole walkway. Gerry: I would rernind you that the owner of the Copper Bar was here to object to the with that objection to jlclude them rgjth the your project. Dave: Just because he objected? Gerry: Ye-s, in part. Any other corulents from the e,udience, cornrnission, or staff. Dave: That ts rt'hat Petel: Yes, I just rvantcd to connrentas to our variances, specifically on regulat-ions and horrr additions apply, that we tve had sorne di sr:ussions height, irow total buiJdings apply and rr'etve colxc to the conclusion, as to interpretations to the total I think at this l PEC Page 26 2 /e /8r point that we need to clarify it, but the position is that they will not need a height vari-ance. Dic_L: The way the nonconforming section reads now, is that if you have additions toyour building that is in confornance with the basi.c requircnents of the code, you donrt consider the whole bullding. lthen we go through the nonconvorning section, one of thethings that was attenpted to do as far a.s the height requirenents in the Vail Village Urban Design Guide Plan was to nake sure that r\'e didntt end up with these big boxes,in other words, 3 or 4 story buildings that werc just completely filled in. If we contj-nue and have our non-conforrning section read the way it is, we could potentially have that] happen because each one is based only upon that specific conditon, not looking at the whole building when you are concerned lvj"th hej.ght. In the next 2 or 3 weeks, wetre goingto be lookeing at the nonrconforrning sect.ion. lVerll have the opportun ity to look and see if we want to change it. Duane: Could I address the recommendations ancl the conditions to the recornmendations ?Ird like to remiltd PEC that condition #1 was recently appealed on a-nother job to Counc.il, and Council agreed with the applicant that that be renoved as a conCition. lrlhy doesit keep showing up? Dick: Because that was specifically for sonething that would have occurred for a sma11icldTtion of an elevator si-raft, not ior a major aCclition to a buil<ij.ng, and I think the dj-fference that the Council saw was that there u:as a major: benefit taking place to sone with proposed additions because they were gainlng significant benefit from this. Mr.Fritch's proposal ttas just an elevator shaft tl,raLi wai not a signific;mt benefit --toinprove the circulation of the building. !g9t The feeling of the Cor.rnci1 was that the:rdclitj-on t-D the Sitzltiirk bldg was notmade possibJ e by the Llrban Design proglsn, an tl jf sonei:ilirlg is macic prr.ssitric by the Ltr1,ranDesig;r progl'an' that rrrould nrean it "orrld girr" -so)ileone ti're iight to a.sit for aclditiolsand changes, that t+oul d posslbiiy not have been avaj-lab1e pri or to '[ha i: prograil beingput ir-riro cffect, tl:ei.r ilr 1lac.t they r"-ou1d irot harrc .Lr: *r.,,,,pi.v r,rj-th C,.,:,J.j.t,ion il1. If j_tgctes iranri -i|r hand lrith the UIL:rn Design pi'ojer:1-, .'it :iii iur s to bc c.cl::.:iit+red as partof i.t., brr; y1io1 thcl'ale aslii.irg fcr hia ir..; Le.r ..il!; on tirc Urban Des-:;;n 0uldc p1a.n. DJtryl. I l.lrough Bob,s add::css was a littlc bit nore totact that j.t was sigrring a blank check, etc. !gl:. I-talked to Bob Frit-.ch toclay at noon by chance, and hc did not tlanr to take thecrcdit for getting that renovc<l, or he is not against in anyway an inprovenent clistrj-ct.He thought that this proj ect roould stand on it.s orin merits rvi-tirout thl Urban Design GuldeP1an, and this is why h9 opposed tl.rat contlition being placed on hjs approval . ite isnot agaj-nst, and he told rne he would back or participaie in an improvi*"nt district. ' Duane:- Thatts my understanding, too. He just didntt l.ike the idea of it being forcedupon hi'm as a bl ank check and a condition of the approval of this parti-cular project.And I also wonder about the basic concept of tacking on al I these ionditions. lvhy canttye 19t these approvals stand on their two feet h,ithout tacking on a i,rhol e buDch of -stuffto then as r:iclers. lr{aybe that ts too purist of a standpoint. lve tve g,ot 5 on t}ris one- -it seens like i-tts getting fai.r1y,.. Gerry: I Wet re tal king about. . . . . the direct i:rincipal of this x :. i l PEC Page .27 2/s/8r Duane: Itm not sure we should be in position to be negotiating all these conditions. Gerryi Itn not convinced we are negotiating. Irn not sure that we arentt naking thema condition of approval period. But it would require, of course, an agrement fron theapplicant. lg!: l"lany,of the projccts, I don't think, would be considered or approved if it werelrtfor some of the conditions in the outlines of the guide plan, so f ittint wl.rat Dick issaying is some bending of what could have been clone otheiir'ise has taken place. The Townis willing to bend to try to get things down to a more peclestrian scale and to improvethe overall village, and if we're wil1i-ng to do that, aie you willing to participate?That's the way I see it. I donrt have a hang up with it. Du:me: Itm not sure I do either,.. Gerry: hbuld soneone like to make a motion either for approval or denial? lqn t I would not nake that Inotion, because I fecl the sane as Mr. Garton, as I saidSdrdre, and even though I may be in favor of his project, if i.t goes thru stated withcondition Jf4 in there, I would vote agaanst it. I ^t'rould move for approval to the Garton building per the staff ureinc rrith the g1r-r'nri nnof 114 in the conditions. Duanc: I) i second . Sfff.- To take out one of the conditions sets a lcind of prececlent--r. rat reason to takeit out? and what is the teason for ever applyi_ng i-t to a;yone else? lgl Ir11...urstr'er since I madc the motion. #4 i-* 6 r1e,:qua{_ s -i_ y, coverccl by lfl 1.1161 if ;rnytlringis done thei'c it should be an improvencnt district. It shluldntt be onc of the acijacelt.ploperty oi.,l1ers that j.s going to pay fcrr it. I.:]:.:1.iloi..i;iypr.ob1c;lIr:,:''.i:,:eisi1rc1''r,:.:..;i1,.j.j,.i.i:1'r;i-;.:'lryiInp]:o./ci;leltr'1j.s;i,rj.c-,i'ih-i.s 1-ear' :i.s probat",ly s1i;ri, u:r ir'hat iiieyrre gciing, i.c.r .lrayo is a ci,i1i-- i;;: -l- k 1.ra), ii. itdoc::t] rr pa:;5, or stllilc tt'itror i.; i',r rgy 6.nsn 1 r.'ir,;,ch the l-r..'li L cii.n g departn:3n1- l,;or:1 cl requj.re,and if that t s true, you shoul ll go bacli and auend i-hr: f irst or-r'", becn.rr.sc it ta1lis aboutagre'ei-ng to the inpror,retnent s necessary to cotnplet.e the vral klay from tite viJ.lage plazato the ,sllop cntrance. 'lhe sane types of requireinent vras plac'ed on that or.", ioo.We necd to state that that i:; the ieeling of the Planning Comnission to do somethingabout that one. S=qIIX. The problern r+ith the r"irst is the phrase',if anrl l.rhon fornred for Vail Village"which sort of leaves it up in the cloucls, D*n I llho paid for the inprovements in the.rest of the plaza? The Tor,,n did, right? D::L, lvlrs. Hi 11 paid 9100,000. Darr: she was the only perso' benefiti-'g frorn it. I donrt thi-nk o'egoin-.q to bencf i.t from tiat...if the Torrn paid for part of the praz,,,pay for part of that rcalk? GeJly: Because it isn!t benef iting the Tolr,n, it r s benefiring. . Dan: Itrs an extensior.r of the plaza. Itrs part of it --it just kind of dies ri.ght6t-T)re top oi' the stlirs person who is why don't thcy ! page 28 2/9/81 Gerry: But if the.offices werenrt there, there wouldnrt be a need for a walk. Itrsa question of don't build the offices or build the offices ancl the walk. !eyg-q: Gerry, there is a need for that walkway now. We have people using that pathway..r think rnaybe the Town should have done i.t when they did the plaza. sgIU, Itrn not sure youtre not right. I{owever, I dontt have any control over that.Didnrt arrd don't' r still think they should be a par't of the conditions for approval .we have a notion by Dan corcoran, 2nd by Duane. All those in favor... {The vote was 2 for, 3 against. Dan and Duane for, Gerry, Scott & Jirn against.Gaynor had left. The motion was defeated.) Gerry moved and Duane seconded to approve the requcst- a.ccording to the staff nenodated 3/5/Br. The vote was 2 for, 3-against. (G-erry and Dua:re in favor). Motiondefeated. Dave Garton then stated and Duanc seconded the that he would go along ir'ith Condition #4, and then Dan movecl same wording that Gerry irad used. Thc vote was J in favor,and 2 against. (Dan,Gerry and Duane in favor.) The notion passed. Gerry r:ernitlded the audicnce that alyone couj.d aopeill. i:he decj.sion to tlre Totrr Councilwithin 10 days. Duane moved and Dan seconded that the meeting be adjo;:rned. rt was acli ourned at s:4s. t PLANNING AND ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AGENDA l,larch 9, 1981 3:oo p.n. 1. Approval of ninutes of ureeting of Febnrary 25, lg81 . Z. Approval of ninutes of neeting of March Z, 19g1 . 3, Deane L. lkrox Residential Floor Area Variance for Casolar II, a Resubdivisionof Lot A-7, Lionsridge Filing No. l. 4. Telleen Anendnent to the Vail Village Urban Design Guide Plan and exterioralteration and modification request for the al1ey between the Casino Building and Plaza Lodge on Bridge Street. 5. Garton Exterior Alteration and modifi.cation request to the Casino Building on Wal1 Strect. Published in the Vail Trail Ma.rch 6, 1981 . DATE: TO: FROM: SUBJECT: eo MEIORANDUM March 6, 1981 Planning and Environnental Cornmission Conmunity Devel opment Departnent Public hearing and consideration of an arnendnent to the vail villageurban Design Guide Plan and an Exterior Alteration and Modificationfor. the construction of a three story addition to the casino Building. BACKGROUND: During the discussion and approval of the Vail Village Urban DesignGuide Plan, the al1ey betweln the Casino Building an6 vtiza toage was noted as t'nid-block connection (covered) from Bridge Streetto Village PIaza. REQUEST: The applicant is requesting the exterior alteration and nodificationto construct a three story addition in the aLrey between the casinoand Praza todge. Proposed is first floor comnercial and secondand third floor office space. This is a change by the applicant. : :::;.-.:i who initially requested residential use on the second ani- third floor. If approval is grant ed for the plan amendnent and exterior alteration and rnodification, the applicant will be required to cone back and to through a conditonal use review for office space on the third floor. VAIL VILLAGE URBAN DESIGN GUIDE PLAN AMENDI,fENT: The Vail Village Urban Design Guide plan nust be amendedand Environtnental Comrnission can deal with the exterioralteration Tequest, Ihe Urban Design Guide plan statesbe a "nid block connection (covered) fron Bridge Street The Cornmwr ity Developrnent Departnent recomrnendsPlan not be anended. Improvlnent of the atleyand until it has been deterroined that 1|c :,r I i cr.,pedestrian way, it should not be iiii";'i";i;i At the tirne the Rucksack expansion took place, a pedestrian connection tothe l'{il 1 creek Building was removed. Duiing workihop meetings on the vailvillage urban Design Guide p1an, nany people discussed how this connectioncottld be re-established- A second fioor connection was discussed and deterninedttrat very fe', if any, visitors wourd walk up a flight of stairs to go to theMill creek building. rf the site was redeveioped, iit" uruu' Design GuidePlan states,Future mid-btock connection to further the Mill creek court tocofe area, Entry reinforced by poeket park created on Bridge street,r. The staff considers the a1 ley similar in circumstance. Once the opportunity isrenoved, there miry never be the ability to have a pedestrian passage way throughthe ploperty. Two decisions neetl to be made "on" ".nir,g - ilte ariey. -Fi.rst, shouiclthere be a passage way between the Casino iluilding and Plaza Lodge? The iorrununiryDcvel oprnent Departncnt considers tlut there shoutJ be an irnprovccl walk way that 9ou.I,d.fc lsablc many rnonths of the ycar. Sccond, should ali spaces betwecn buildingsin vail village be filled in? In the village today, there is very Iittlc privatepropcrty that is not dcvelopcd. If this area wcTe landscape;d, tirere coulrl bc'fwo reduction in landscape arca shall bc pcrmitted rvithout sufficient cause shownby the applicant, or as lpecificrl in the Vail viffagc-Design ConriO"rations. before the Planning modification and that the alley shall to Village PLaza.,l that the Urban Design Guide has not been fully explored, cannot function as an effectivea building. 7 :f*,":l**;;it.ffi "r.lT*:::"i, rl!'r, i:;i'L Third, creating interesting and usable connections between other streets was considered an important aspect of the Vail Village plan. This is one of the e il Village for a through connection. This decision respresents a key decision on the value and future of alleyways in the Village. The issue can be looked at in two ways: l) There are few alleys, and not nany nore "possible a1leys". The loss of this one would only be a confirmation of the essentially I'streetil network presently existing. 2) On the other hand, if Vail does eventually want to have and encourage I'a variety of pedestrian experiences" (i.e, al1eys as well as streetsJ, this alley represents a good starting point. the Corrununity. Development Departnent recorunends denial of the request to anend the Vail Vitlage Urban Design Guide Plan. II. EXTERTOR AI,]'ERATION REQUEST FOR THE ALLEY Part two of the request is the exterior alteration and modification to pernit firstfloor conunercial and second and third floor office space. The first floor would have a new entrance for Pistachio's restaurant and a store facing Bridge Street, while along lllal I Street, there would be a sma11 shop. There would be approxlmately 450 square feet of space. The 2nd and 3rd floor office space contains 900 square feet and is a change frorn the original rcquest of one dwelling unit. COMPLIANCE WITH PURPOSE SECTION 18. 24 .010 Purpose The Connercial Core I district is intended to provide sites and to naintainthe unique character of the vail village commeicial Area, with its ,nixtureof lodges and cornrnercial establishments in a predoninantiy pedestrian environrnent.The commercial core r District is intended to ensure adequaie light, air, openspace and other arnenities appropriate to the permitted types or uuiiaings anauses. The District regulations in accordance with the Vait Vitlage Urbin DesignGuide Plan and Design Considerations, prescribe site development standardsthat are intended to ensure the maintenance and preservation of the tightlyclustered arrangenents of building fronting on pedestrian ways and public greenwaysand to ensure continuation of builing scale and architectural qualities thatdistinguish the Village. The-proposal to enclose the al1ey has been discussed regarding the Urban.DesignGuide P1an. COMPLI4NCE WIT]I T}IE VAIL VILLAGE URBAN DESIGN GUIDE PLAN AND DESIGN CONSIDERqTIONS Pedestriani zation : Closing off the al ley has been previously discussed under the plan anaendment. Vehicle Penetration: By adding two very srnall shops, there wourd be very rittle additionarin the Village. Thc office lp"ce use.r would be requirc,l to park inportation ccnter. service and delivery verricles to vail Virrage willto follow tine restrictions set out by the Town of Vail. traffic the Trans- be requircd 3/6/8r pase 3 jQut St"eetscape Frarnework : If the buildi.ng is approved by the Planning and Environmental Corunission, greaterattention to the streetscape in front of the entire Casino building needs to bepart of the approval . Currently, there are drainage problems, and the si<lewalk area between the building and street should be improved. Brandess-Cadnus ReaI Estatehas urade some irnprovements by adding a bench and flowers during the sunmer. Onthe We-st end, the applicant will be responsible to inprove the walk way to the builditron the completed plaza area. Surface treatment should be the sane as the p1aza. Street Enclosures This would not change by Street Edge No change by the posposal addition of the structure to the aIley. Building Height The proposal neets the height requirement establishetl in the Design Considerations. Views The proposal does not inpact any view corridor. Sun Shade No impact because of the plaza Lodge the Zoning Parking - At the tine of building pernit,applicable parking fees for commercial and Architectural and Landscaping The exterior design will be reviewedpliance wirh rhe Vail Village Design RECOMMENDATION: the applicant witl be required to payoffice use. by the Desj-gn Review Board Consideration. to deternine com- The Comrnunity Development Department recornmends deniar of the request. 1'ie considerthat the structure addition lron either Bridge or lt-a11 streets looks like an 1$aillon and-not part of the casino building. The staff is atso concemed withthe flat roof and how it looks against the ;butting U"ifairrgr. rf the Planning and Envirorunental comrnission approves the rcequest, the followingconditions should be praced on tlre approvaL r lht the applicanr agrees: 1l to participate in and not renonstrate against a special improvement districtif one is fornrcd for Vail Village, . 3/G/sr pase 4 tf 2) to the improvement necessary to complete the walkway from the Village Plaza. to the shop entrance, and 3) to work with the other users on the first floor at the Casino building to inprove the sidewalks. D tr MEMORAI{DUM Planning and Environmental Corunission Department of Corunrmity Developnent/Peter Patten 3/sl8r Exterior Alterat.ion Request under the Vai-l Village Urban Design Guide Plan for David Garton to allow constl:uction of a 2 level office addition on the existing deck of Gartonrs Saloon in the Casino Building. A. Description of Request The tequest is to construct a two story building exactly in the area where the exterior deck is located on the west side of Gartonrs. Access would be provided via an wrenclose balcony and stairway entering fron near the a1ley opening. The design of the project near the existing alley is sonewhat dependent upon the approval or denial of the propose alley infi-l1 project. B, Statistics TO: FROM: DATE: SUBJECT: 1. 2. Existing: An exterior wood deck Proposed: Use Office Comnon Area of approxinatel;r g5g sq. ft. Sq.Ft 1515 (5 offices) 695 (stairs, hal1s, bathroonsJ Total 22I0 C. Compliance with Purpose Section L8.24.010 Purpose the Comnercial Core I Di.strict is intended to provide sites and to naintain the unique character of the Vail Village Conrnercial Area, with its nixture of lodges .and commercial establishments in a predominantly pedestrian environment. The Con-' nercial Core I District is intended to ensure adequate light, air, open space and other arnenities approPriate to the perrnitted types of buildings and uses. TheDistrict regulations in accordance with the Vail Village Urban Design Guide Plan and Design Considerations prescribe site development standards that are intendedto ensure the rnaintenance and preservation of the tightly clustered arrangetnentsof buildi-ngs fronting on pedestrian ways and public greenways and to ensure continu-ation of building scale and architectural qualities that distinguish the Village. The Corununity Development Department considers that the proposal for the officeaddition to the Casino Building is in con{.oflnance with the purpose for Commercial Corc I District. No sub-area concept relates to this proposal . 2. Urban Design Considerations a. Pedestrianization: The office addition will not affect pedestrianizationon lltall Street. However, it rnay increase the variety of pedistrian paths nearthe south entrylray by having pavers matching the viliage plaza pavers andconnecting that paver area into the plaza design. b. vehiqle Penetlc:r:IlLi presently, no vehicular traffic is artowed on wallStre@1dnot,in.anysignificantway,affectvehicuIar penetrat ion , c.^ Stleet-scapq Fralework: The southwest corner of the building will becomea tocal point for the eye as a person cones down the stairs frorn the plazaheading north. The top floor ol the building's southwest corner will bea curved forn recalling some of the curved pian forms of the praza. Thiswill aid in softening this prominent corner of the building. Also, theexterior unenclosed balcony paralleling WaI1. Street will aid the interestof the pedestrian as they walk by. .d. -street Enclosi.rrre: The feeling of street enclosure will be increasedDy the proposed addition. This has been the item of nost concern duringprevious PEC and councir reviews. The following chart helps to clarifythe-existing and proposed situations with ""gut[ to street enclosure asoepacted in Section B of the application. Existing Building proposed Buitding. to Street Ratio to Street RatioSide of Wall Street West (Lazier Arcade)' -- 1.g6 to I ..unchanged The Design considcrations for vail Virlage suggest tliat a street enclosureratio of about L/2 to 1 is the nost comfortable and desirabre. rt alsostates that if building height is greater than street width (over a 1 toI ratio), that the 'canyonl' effect is created. The Design consj.derationscontinue to include the foll0wing exception to these "onditlonu,rrln sorne instances,_ the rcanyonr effect is acceptable and even desirable.For-example, as a short connecting linkage betwLen rarger spaces--to givevariety to the walking experience. For iun/shade reas6ns,.it is oftenadvantageous to orient any ronget segments in a north-south direction.Long canyon stleets in an east-west Iirection should generally be discouraged., East (Casino Building)L/2 to I trWhen exceptions to theconsideration should bepedestrian emphasis to 1.16 to I hcight criteria occur; spccial design creating a well-defined ground floorthe canyon effect. ---* Casinottu*a11$-s/slst OO these criteria in nind, we feel that, although the existing deck does provide a bit of a tlbreathert' in an other wise very enclosed area, that the proposalfits well into the exception categoly provided for in the Design Coniiclerations and does not create anything contrary to the purposes of the urban Design Guide Plan. 9: Strget.Edge: 0n l,lall Street, there is no change on the street 9dge. 0n the area near the entrance to the a1ley, the proposal shouldbe cut back to keep the light and air to a maxinrum near'th;;ii"v oJ.ning. f.. Building Height: The applicant has submitted a height diagram showingthe proposal , if approved, will not require a height variance. The heightof the proposed addition will not at any point exceed 35 feet fron Wall Street l eve1 , g. views: The view Map for the Urban Design Guidc plan shows a major viewcorridor from the area of the Childrenrs Fountain toward Vail Mountain. Theproposed addition does intrude to a very minor degree on the eastern edgeof this view, but in no significant manner. The buildings south of the CasinoBuilding cut off the view presently in the same way the iddition would, ifapproved. Thus, no relevant effect on this view corridor is forseen. h. sun/shade: In the sur ner when the sun is in a high position in the sky,the pToposed'-addition could possibly cause nore shade on }1|all street. ltiedon't feel that this would be a significantly long period of tine duringthe course of the year. The applicant will have moie information to presenton_this aspect at the PEC neeting. wall street is already very',enc1bsed"and currently does not receive much sun. F. Architectural and Landscape Considerations E. Since no linit on the square footage of conrnercial space is in effect. (rurder -the Urban Design Guide Plan) for C-I, the proposal needs no square fooiage variance.No additional site coverage is reatized eittreq because of the conmercial spaceexisting directly below the proposal. Thus, all zoning code regulations aiebeing rnet with the proposal..-Alio,- at the tine of building perrnit, the applicant r,ril1required to pay the applicabre paikj.ng r"" ioi ;;;;;;i;-r[u"". The detai.ls of Review Board. and general ly RECOMMENDATION the building proposal will be reviewed in front of the Design The proposal appears to blend well with the existing builcLingis consistent with the Design Considerations. The Contmunity Development Departnent recorunends approval of the office addition tothe Casino Building with the fotlowing conditions: l) The applicant agrees,to participate in and not remonstrate against a special improve-nent district, if and when formed for Vail Villace.2) The applicant will subnit a request for a Conditional Use pernit, to allow theuse of an office on the Jrd level .3) The applicant will work out an agreenent mutually acceptable to the Town, theapplicant and the other irusiness owners in the Casino building as to constructionschedules and practices, so that disturbances of existing buslnesses are keplto an absolute nin i.mum4) The applicant nust improve the area from the Plaza to his entra.nce with sirnilarnaterials used in thc plaza. 5) ll tf._al1ey project.is denied, the appticant cutfirst lesr€,] to let adequate light and'i.ir into the back the proposal onalIey opening. Code Considerations {l\ ,,, i- -:I ',rF.' 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L' Knor htg rppt€al tore (b |EiiY conttol v'rllnc' Fffi::ldf-S"fl:Fp## r |ffi+ffi;flfiff**,?irT$ I'ffii" NoltCE lS HEREaY GIVEN thrt-A P'trt :ll,{i.ii:',n':"f;trffls'1il!1]$fi ; , :*",;i.''i*':""'!E:"""iiyi*";r""'r?&,:i'I f,jmrnsrs,it Cotr tlt ror'6.tlndct' i ; ui:#,i#i$#igleff:$s r, '"';fl'?1,9i'ilTfri:'&-*n.f:'i;n$ . rr' -' tha orodoesd chengea i! lvllllDlo In lr il-{,n-[iiiioi: ol-ce durng rsgurar b.tsingt' friiilii6iiiii,* o' '*pect'6n bv rhc p.trrc: I TOWN OF VAIL - : DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOFI ENT] A p.tat Paicn Ja.' Zoning A"min6l"loi "'3',i"i3f,l'$,YiluT" , I lmmim**:*:#:m-.': - Municrprt Codg- ,iffiffiF;t1ffi,' \ I PLANNING A}'ID ENVIRONMENTAL COMMISSION AGENDA Monday, February 9, l98l l:30 site inspections of Garton alley and deck and Luker(lot s, blk s, Bighorn 3) 2:30 Study Session: To study a proposal to close the alley between the Plaza and the CasinoBuildings in Vail-Village. 5:00 Regular Session: 1. Approval of ninutes of neeting of January 12, lg8l , , 2, Approval of nrinutes of meeting of January 26, 1981. 3. tuke density control variance, Lot 3, Block 3, Bighorn sub, Jrd Addition(tabled froro January 26 meeting) t"- 4, A request for a minor subdivision to relocate an existing lot line betweenlots 5 and 6, Bighorn Sth Addition. Applicant: Bjorn Borgen. 5. A request for an exteri.or alteration and modification in Comnercial Core Iand height variance to construct an elevator at the Sitznark building locatedat 183 Gore Creek Drive. Applicant: Bob Fritch. 5. A request for an exterior alteration and nodification in Conunercial Core Ifor the Red Lion building, to construct three additional dwelling units and shops at 304 East Bridge Street. Applicant: Jeff Selby. Published in the Vail Trail February 6, 1981. o & February 1981 Gerry Vfhite, Chairrnan PJ-anning and Environmental Commission Town of VailVail, co 81657 Dear Gerryr trfter the last joi.nt meeting, the question left undnsw€r- ed vras whether the I11ey left open is desircable to both Local residents and quests" }s a result, I took the init-iative to survey locals asking whe-lher they presently use the Al1ey and, if not, why not, and, vrhether they would use it more frequently if it vrere improved. In order to insure that each indivi-dual surveyed rvas av/ar:eof the various alternati'res for the .Alley Pro ject, they were initiaily presented with a cop.y of tire Yail Trail art-icle of January 16, 1981. (See attacbsd ). fhe second step vras to rev]-el{ the survey forrn explain-ing -bhai the issue lvas whetirer to close ihe illey per- manently or keep it open for peciestrian treffic. Some of the alternatives offered as soluti.orrs i.^rerer the buil-Oirig of retaiL space at ground level vri''uh tvro floorsof residential or off ice space aijove, thus 1;ermanentl.yclosiirg the.Alley; builqiing a secor,d and third floor leav..ing 'l;he ground level open as an r1 lley walir-'uhi:ough; or cleanit:g the "4 l1ey and Leaving it as it js; presently. One question put to the local r'esj-dcnts vra.s "If the .Alley was J-mproved and rnaintained, wouJ-d you use it rnore of tenthan'you do norr'?r' The final- ste p r.ras to ask the participant to voice his/herpersonal- pi'efe:'ences and offer a so..l,ution tc the presentsituation. Fron the cornrnents, the conclusion that can tle drawn is *hatthe najority of participants in the survey do not use thell"le.y norv nor would'Lhey in the fr"lture ancl eLre in favor of c)-osing the .Alley. The reasons for closing can be con- denscd into the followingr 1. the ALLey is not convenient as a shortcut. 2. guests are unawarc of the .4 lleyrs cxistence and arenot likely to use it because of tJre psychologi-' ca1 baruier that nost urban residen'bs carry with them frorn their experiences at homc. These bar- . riers are not likely to be overcorne during theirbricf stay in Vail as evidenced by the fact that' even long-terrn local residents have an aversionto frequenting this alley in particular. fhe survey ansvrers brought to 1ig.ht several additionaL ideas which should be mentioned here. One reflects thepreferences of local resicients for retail space as an imporbant benefit for our tourist econoiny and futurc rev- enue and employment bases for our tovrn. Those surveyed al-so felt that office space above the rnainleve1 is a more appropriate and desir:eable alternativeto residential space jn the core village. Thank you very rnuch for your conside::ation. SincereLy, Parrela A. Tel-Leen Box 279Vai1, co 81657 ..T*: I I I No, Date Name | 'v' - Iz/) ' ./tl'fl ?r., -/' "'r.' [/tt,{6/y,,.rO .Address Ernploycd FrequetrcY of Rrtx /^ (*'l't't $" lr '- ^/' llcY Use- %io"[t,t *u,:ttr,i\fi,1 au /i/ tuIo l' '44 wr,rPruourd you llke'jto ccc? Alley as is? PhoPs/Cornrnl? 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F# \atrt" frr.\-\+r,1{!ilq*} q\} E:rrd t:;,"ii q:i'i \U-\r^.:d-r' -\.\d-(:e{ o (r\s t*.q h\#tr"dt f;;\{:rg i{:;\.\rl\u FilE Frr HEE*[if T;rFrEf:,.< c.* = ar [$;frE ElIusI;ecF!9 , 1.'']|..:ir- i -i:-:\' i:-];'., 'l -,rb 3.\<O()*c 6'CIcr, - .F. o\rJ i\-'t:5. 6''E)O-iCilO({ -1 ;T(*$ ti) fi . -((f.,l(r) {l\ (dt . .tt PATTEN'S NOTES FROI'' PECIOINT REVTEh' SESSION 'T"L*OIL ATHLETIC CLUB Casino Bldg - 0ffice staff: Jeff: 1/Roger:V Scott l 7 Bob R. - height3 sun/shade ? (1) enclosure of l{all St. (sone space o.k. on t to l)(2) nassing of bldg like to see retain on deck likes plan, tie in with alley, right spot to enclose concern over bulk Gerry : concered about enclosure, much mass alreadyJohn: shadow pattern will break up concerned about exit requirements on Gartonsl DaVe Garton: Fire Departnent says no problem like addition, properly done could be nice might be opportunity to redo trash storage area urban canyon effect - donrt want in favor like it stbp back, diff. heights, afraid of enclosure like change made - nice addition like it, wants future plans for bldg concept ork, r conc€rn over squeezing ilt area likes it, need condo association approval, construction on Wal1 St., successful trash solution Warren Pulis - need agreenent on disruption of business on WalI St. Dan Telleen - disruption of shops below before 6 after construction. Dave G: will have plan to nitigate business disruption * Business disruption very inportant - mitigation needed '4uynot, f-..{uane: Tom: Ron: Paul: Bud: Bill: PATTEN'S NOTES FKOM PEC/TC JOINT REVIEW SESSION 1/13/8L VAIL ATHLETIC CLUB Red Lion Staff: height street encl osure service & del iverY ni-ew no'dif ication GRFA significantly under al1owable Bill Ruoff: argunent of noise polLution Q complaints about drolping bar to basenent . Peter P- weak argument - that bar is the nainstay of Bridge st. and everyone feels its value as is. proposal would comply with I/2 to /St. enclosure Bill R View blockage shown fron Curtin-Hill P.P. not valid source for Picture service E delivery, view blockage too significant adding 5 condos to 2 already there adding 5 small retail shoPs 1700 sq ft amt of vehicular traffic - rnininual moving of Seibert Circle - streanline f lot+ - increase roon for Passages Roger: likes it, definite improvement little view inpairnent ' Jeff W.: how much modification of view corridor do you want pubtic view corridor more important G. P. sone nodification reconunended 2nd 1evel eating balcony - accomplish objectives irnprov enent s would inprove end of Bridge St. 2nd objective would tie in Mi11 Creek Court bldg irnprove sense of draw roof configurations and setbacks al 1 alternatives have trade-offs existing basenent used for bar condo parking in structure Gerry: view corridor - cut back 2nd floor so as you cone down Hill St. or H.R. Rd, it drawa You around view corridor preserve Bob R. iikes proposal, nice addition minor views onlY very attractive Bud: impressed with overall project shops of more concern, not views carry down to Mill Creek - good very good trade off . Red Lion (Continued.) I I Paul: 2nd story back-off - better likes project Ron: good addition, spirit of trade-off is good CCI bldg - accept view blockage Torn: basically likes it 2nd floor should be pulled back Duane: activity on end of Bridge St, - good generator corunend for not trmaxing itrr Scott: carry through to Mill Creek - good' push waIl back night destroy Pedestrian experience Gaynor agree with Scott Bill Wilto -.,model very helpful sireet leve1, view inrportant, not saying good or bad Cyranno's bldg - look out of Place Mi11 Creek opportunities JefflrJ. blocki.ng of view occurs farther south on building than really evident. Sloping roof natching existing pitch is a solution, but height then increased to south , 'ETTEN's NorES FR.M pEc/TeNT REVTE* sESSroN r/rs/sr rnrHLerrc CLUB -Z Vil lagellionshead projects 1. Alley Project Staff Reconrnendation - keep al1ey open Bud: 5 questions' - I. reations of businesses around there as relates to storage- trash (John G Diane Donovan opposed) 2. Drainage - interior roof drain to l{all Street 3. Firebreak - proposal would irnprove situati-on Roger, Dr. Steinberg, Wilto 1. keep access there, do a small shop with passageway or leave street level totally open ' 2. alleyway unusable as it - no incentive to do anything with it Gaynor: close it off Scott: Duane: look into leaving stTeet level open Ron: fix up a11ey, agree with Steinberg, nake a god connection Johnston: doesnrt like seasonability of use, agrees with Ton Budl concerns of trash, drainage, fire - doesntt feel negative about project - likes Tomrs concept Ruder - sane concerns as Bud, if addressed to satisfaction o,k. If open - contract on maintainence, etc. Gerry - alley needs attention, likes project - afraid of tunnel effect(inviting) ? Fire screen inportant Wilto likes Tomrs idea with comrnercial space involved offset on Bridge Street side - no flush. .q a -Yr ,,'- ' - !:$,I -qut\-l.l.t1Ar:\. a llAli0: 0f flt(Il[Cl'. .q]SI]lO BUILDING REDLVEIOPMEX\T (4 Jamrary 1981 sut'nitral)*--T.& D*. -_. -..-_"-.J-:__*,-::.=i-_ - _-:_"__ t[cAt D[sctttPTloN; t,0.tpar_tB,c lrLCtcK 5c |,.il,,N6 vail Village rrirstoo DESCRII'TION 0F PROJtC|'f,edevelopnrent of exist,ing buildirg to j.nr:lude 3 - lst level crelloercia]. condoninir-ng, 2nd E 3rd leveLs to be 3 residential cttrulcrninir^rns. Tho foltowing informfltion is rcquirctl for srrbmittallloard boforc a final upproval c,in be g jvc.n:by' thc apP) ic,rrrt to t!rc l)c:;iUrr l{cvi r_.r Col r-rr A. 0UILDINC tt{l.uRrAt,S Roof Slding Othcr lfatl Materials 'lypc of l'lir tcrj I I hhrod trim _Q:_!,., Roof /stone ',shalr_',' red Applied finis-tiwffi Stucco -_l*g-appearance __ .-_l!rrt /,lighr gray ( s,ee belolt ) Ashlar Stone Native redsft rcr,rms/gray Fascla lbod cabot$_0335 oak Brcm . Soffits wood Light Gray ItIndor,'s Glass Clear Ulndou Trinr Doors Door Trirn Hand or Dcck Raits Flues F! ashlngs Chinneys ltnsh tirrstor.urcs 6rcetthorrscs 0ther av,rninqs 8. Iu\Nl. ttll,uRtALS (Vegetat ivc, t,alrtl:;c:rpi rr:: Bot an i c:r I Nnnrcr.i.---- t{bod lVooclr/G1ass Cabots-0335 Oak Brcrrn Cabots Wood Metal Calnts:-0335 Oak Brcarn luetal,/Stucoo Wrr>ught iron gray Dar:k bro,rn Sfuet Metal Dar:k brcr.m Stucco White .. _T/l Altrninlm Calvas Fraref.ercan Glazing Dk Brorn/Clear .- .-tp&e 9e,1ryt$. P@ -Sslr_bg_Aeps uqgiper'tg_qlo_ltEU.iS.Trailinq Juniperr- -. rk..;{r --.-.._...-_. Pr.eeq_cJrye_Alae$_iqna D^ialf Alberta Spruce ---i.-r-_-.. clerr+lg_o5igLtalij.-.- _sechx tplegJeP]e_ Oriental Clsnatis Vinca Minor Mertensia-----._ Papaver 100b-.--.*>--.r- i\'i;llcrials .i nt. lUrlinll Ccnrnon Nane 'l'r'r.c':;, l,lil'trb:;, _Q,iirut9 I 10-12 i' tr, | (lrorultl (',r"Var) :::ll.g L3 '-15' LLr'-2' sprl_gs 6l 6l 30 Periwinkle I5U spri-gs driming Bells L2 sprrgs plants for stone plantersPansies150 Poppies, Oriental Red plants for wj-ndoqi boxes ;, I t- J '.r"il C. Olt ll:R .1.^Inst:A.l:l:_l:l'A'! t{!,!'"s- (Rotr,ining l{ul I s, liclrccs , Strinuaing lool r; , ct c. )l'loasc spccify. fpicail \ Steps - Bricti pavers llandrails - polished brass SUEDIVISTON JOD NA'IIU CASINO BUIII]IN(I REIII,IIOPMET{T D&E LOTParts of B,BL0CK 5C l: t l. t Nc_[ajJ,_Vrlgee $E L_--.:.=::--::-=!*c&F ADDRESS llto locttlon of u!ilitlcs, wlrctlrcr they ttnos, must bo appr.ovcd arrrl vcrlf lcd l{ acconponying slto plnrr. bc nnin trunk tlro fol loulrrg I i lrr':; or propo:; cd ut i I rt ics for thc l{ountatn tlcl I Hostcrn Stopc Gas fobltc Scrvicu Cornpnny Holy Cross Electric Assoc. Vatl Csblo 't'.V. Uppor liagto Vrl lc1' lVltcr and Sanitttiou District Date t ,/-{,/ y6 / ,/ Ut' r'/ ,l' *E:tz-t'L.l/ '/d'/s', "-:1-'-/r' ) .2 Nolll: 'l'hcsc vcrificat.i,rrrs do rrol rcliovc ttrc colrtlnctor. of lris responsibility to obtlri.n lr strcct c:rrt.,pcrmlt frorrr tlic l'orur of vrril, !c;rlrtncnt of publir: lr/rrrris arrd to .bLlin rrtil it)' locatiorl;i bcfore digginE ilr irrry prrhl rr: r.itlht- of-rr'ly or cascut(.rtt. irr tlrc'ltrwrr of Vljl..