HomeMy WebLinkAbout1968-09-09 Town Council MinutesMINUTES OF THE MEETING
THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES - THE TOWN OF VAIL
HELD SEPTEMBER 9, 1968
The Meeting of the Board of Trustees was called to Order by Mayor John A.
Dobson in the Vail Valley Medical Center Building at ?:40 p. m.
ROLL CALL: Roll Call found the following Members present:
John A. Dobson
Thomas I. Steinberg
Richard Bailey
C. E. Kindel
Peter Seibert
John Donovan
Absent: Joseph Langmaid
MINUTES OF THE MEETING
1.. Discussion of Winter Parking
Mayor Dobson called on Trustee Peter Seibert to report on the current
situation of Winter parking. Mr. Seibert asked for a study session on this
matter and expressed the following thoughts for 1968-69 Winter season.
The Main Parking Lot is the long rectangular one between Highway #6
and Meadow Drive across from the Wedel Inn and Poor Richards. This should
be kept for transient skiers.
The Convention Site West of the Wedel Inn and Nottingham -Rumford
Lodge should be maintained for transient skiers also.
Near the Telephone Building and immediately West of the Nottingham -
Rumford Lodge is a large triangular lot which would also be for transient
skier parking. If we can open up the Fire House lot North of the proposed church
and the site East of the Blue Cow and make these basically employee parking,
transportation would then be necessary. There has been a proposal from Buz
Burland on a shuttle bus service from these lots for our employees. A small
shelter would also have to be provided.
The alternate to the above would be as in the past: the first ones here
have the best parking places - skiers who come later will not fare as well.
The 5B lot and the Christiania lot will park approximately 60 to 70 cars.
Trustee Seibert felt that if these two lots were split between the upper and
lower core of Bridge Street, this would be adequate.
Short-term parking between the Wedel Inn and. the Night Latch just
North of the Covered Bridge was discussed. It was suggested we could purchase
double parking meters for approximately $120 and that these could be arranged
for on a no -interest basis and 50-50 split of cost until tiro meter is paid off. A
small island would make head-on parking possible. These meters might go up
to two hours. After 6:00 p. m. they would no longer be controlled. Trustee
Seibert stated there is a not gain of over 226 cars so there is no effective loss
in parking space and lie felt we could keep up with the need for the Winter.
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George Knox asked if 5B would be a fee arrangement? Trustee Seibert
answered there probably would be as maintenance, signs and watching the area
would be an expense. This would not be a profit -making concern.
Trustee Donovan asked if any new foot -bridges have been proposed.
Trustee Seibert answered that a dam with a foot -bridge over it is planned
between the Rumford -Nottingham Lodge and Manfred Schober's new building.
Just East of the Blue Cow, a pathway will be built between the Texas Townhouses
and the Red and Whites to service that upper lot.
Trustee Donovan asked about the parking for the Lodges such as the
Plaza, Golden Peak, and Gramshammers. Trustee Seibert felt there is enough
space in 5B for these lodges this Winter only (until the space is used for buildings).
George Knox asked how Crossroads planned to control their parking lot.
Trustee Kindel answered the plan was to have one exit and two entrances, have
an attendant, and charge for anything over the short-term parking.
Trustee Seibert stated an improvement can be --nade over last year's
situation and Vail Associates would cooperate with the Town on this. Mayor
Dobson stated there would definitely be a study session.
2. Consideration of Renting Additional Office Space
The possibility of renting the Western Shop space for the Police
Department and a holding cell was discussed. Blake Lynch reported as
follows: The rent is $250. 00 ($3. 50 a sq. ft. ). He felt this a fair rent and an
opportunity the Town should tape now. He submitted a floor plan of the space
available showing the cell area, a storage cabinet, a partitioning down the
center with a blackboard, etc. The Meeting Room could possibly serve for
court and Trustee Meetings as it would hold 30 to 40 people adequately. There
would also be a chemical toilet in the cell. In all, it would be about a $4.00 or
$500 investment in improvements. The lease runs up to December next year.
Trustee Donovan felt that an option for additional years should be
stated in the lease and Trustee Kindel felt this necessary.
Trustee Kindel made the Motion that the space as approximately
outlined, at the price stated, with the stipulation that an option be obtained for
one or two years, be voted upon. Trustee Donovan seconded the Motion and it
was approved unanimously by the Board. Mayor Dobson asked Blake Lynch to
check on this.
3. Miscellaneous Reports
a. Budget
Blake Lynch reported he was in the process of preparing the budget
now witiz meetings scheduled for September 20. He wants to present a basic
budget subject to evaluation at that time as he felt it is needed for the Town to
continue operating at its current level. He mentioned that the Trustees and
District Boards should, meet in joint session to evaluate the budget and
especially the supplementary requests.
b. Structured Parking
Blake Lynch reported that we have consulted with Vail Associates
on the site South of the Lodge and they have agreed to give us some land at this
location. It was suggested this be brought up with the Planning Board in order
to get their ideas and impressions so we would be in a position to present the
Trustees with only two or three plans. We are looking at a potential parking
of 200 cars and an ice s.hating rink at this location. Other sites will be evaluated
by the Planning Board.
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Mayor Dobson stated work is proceeding on this and we will have
more in the future.
c. Building Ir=ection Fee for Chapel
After some discussion, a Motion was made by Trustee Seibert that
the building inspection fee for the Interfaith Chapel be waived by the Town.
The Motion was seconded by Trustee Donovan.
Peter Cosgriff noted that he had advised the Water and Sanitation
Board that where they are serving non-profit organizations of a municipal
character that has taxing powers itself, that the Water and Sanitation District
should charge the full amount. If a District needs to raise money, they can do
it through their own mill levy.
Peter Cosgriff felt that with careful deliniation of policy for non-
profit institutions, the fee could be waived. Legally it is probably under some
question by the taxpayers.
•Mayor Dobson put a vote before the Board as to whether the building
inspection fee should be waived: All in favor were Trustees Seibert and Donovan;
all opposed were Trustees Kindel and Bailey, Trustee Steinberg abstained.
Mayor Dobson then cast the tie breaking vote to approve the Motion waiving the
building inspection fee.
d. Club 20
Mayor Dobson stated Garry White had requested the Town donate
funds to Club 20. Club 20 is formed by the 21 Western Slope counties to provide
representation regarding highways on the Western Slope and tourist promotion
through shows and publicity. The Club is supported entirely by organizations
on the Western Slope. The Vail Resort Association has submitted a pledge as
has Vail Associates, The Town of Eagle and the Lion's Club. We need
representation in the big travel shows which Club 20 would provide (especially
for Summer publicity). It was decided that something around $200 was a
reasonable figure for a pledge from the Town of Vail and this combined with
the others would be in tho $1, 000.00 range which would be matched by Eagle
County Commissioners. This is their lobbying area on roads which would be
to our advantage as well as the tourist attractions.
Mayor Dobson asked the Board if action should be taken right
away as far as a donation was concerned. Our budget should be prepared well
before our election in November, but he felt this was a good time to make a
decision.
Trustee Steinberg made a Motion to appropriate $300 from the Town
of Vail to Club 20. Trustee Donovan seconded the Motion. All were in favor but
Trustee Kindel who abstained.
e. Ice Skating Rink
Blake Lynch reported on this stating it would cost about $1, 000.00
for the vinyl material which could possibly be used later for structured parking.
The site would be the Tennis court. Manor Vail has expressed some interest
in renting the Tennis courts for this purpose for their guests, but Blake Lynch
said it must be available to everyone in Town - possibly they should charge
something for renting the skates - but did the Board want to charge for the rink
or support it out of general sales tax revenues? He stated he would do some
investigating on the cost of skates, etc.
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George Knox suggested that the Vail Village Tnn has skates and
•possibly they would be willing to sell these to th Town at a small fee. Ile felt
the rink would have to be policed -.a skate patrolman might be necessary. It
was the general feeling that an overall fee should be charged and that the
program should be self-supporting.
f. Ground Breakincr Ceremony
Mayor Dobson announced the ground breaking ceremony on the site
for the Interfaith Chapel to be held September 10, 1958, at 4:00 p. m. with a
service to be held by Father Stone and Reverend Simington and encouraged
everyone to attend.
4. Miscellaneous Matters from Town Attorney
Attorney Peter Cosgriff discussed the need for possibly two ordinances:
One concerns the covering of trash and garbage cans and the other the possibility
of eliminating junk cars from filling stations. He asked the Board its feeling
on these matters and just what was wanted. It was felt private trash cans should
be prohibited outside that were not enclosed in any structure.
• Peter Cosgriff noted there was a compliance problem, and possibly the
ordinance should be passed now, but put it into effect later - perhaps November
15. Mr. Cosgriff stated -the date would be left blank. It was decided the junk
car problem would also be included in the same ordinance.
Mayor Dobson stated Conoco is working toward a possible solution,
but the problem should be followed up with an ordinance.
5. Citizen ParticiT)ation
George Knox mentioned the problem of a public rest room and locker
space in Vail. The Mayor . stated it certainly was a concern and that the
legality involved was being checked. He felt Vail Associates and the Town
should share this obligation. Vail Associates is considering the Lodge Cafeteria
Restrooms for this purpose. Mayor Dobson felt it a duel responsibility and it
will be discussed furthor in the week.
George Knox also asked what has been done about the lighting situation
on the streets program? Blake Lynch stated most of the slectric street lights
have been installed by tl_c Town. Holy Cross Electric Company has not
completed wiring them.
The gas lights for Bridge Street are expensive and the need for these
should be re-evaluated.
Trustee Steinberg noted that a need exists for a cemetary in the Village.
Blake Lynch noted the Town is paying on the Minturn District now.
Peter Seibert asked about the progress on the intentional bumps in the
road. The Mayor stated the Police Department should be approached for some
recommendations as to where the bumps should be placed. Bob Parker felt
the residential areas need these bumps even more than the downtown areas.
The Mayor said the Board would hold a study session and. have this ready
for a Motion at the next meeting.. The Mayor asked Blakke Lynch to advise Chief
Holmes to set up a plan for these bumps.
Hans Weibel suggested a guard rail or a reflector be installed on the
narrow curve of road by Bob Parker's and Roger Brown's house. The Mayor
suggested Chief Holmes be asked to check the roads for danger spots.
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Florence Steinberg questioned the air polution problem which existed
.a short time last week. Blake Lynch briefly explained their system for
controlling this, and Trustee Seibert stated Vail Associates has a letter of
agreement with the Pioneer Construction Company to keep the dust to a minimum.
Peter Seibert questioned the status of the dog pound. Blake Lynch
stated it was to be located over by the Sewage Treatment plant and plans for this
were progressing.
Mayor Dobson asked if there were any further questions or discussion and as
there were none, Trustee Kindel made a Motion for the INdeeting to bAjourn which
was seconded by Trustee Steinberg. With no further business to come before
the Board, the Meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p. ma
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