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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1969-09-08 Town Council MinutesOFFICE COPY --- DO NOT REMOVE MINUTES OF THE MFFTING VAIL BOARD OF TRUSTEES SEPTEMBER :s, 13,a Ttid Meeting was called to order by Mayor Dobson at 7:35 p. in. in the Confereace Room at Manor Vail on September 6, 13;;<3. ROLL CALL: Roll call found the following members present: Mayor John Dobson Trustee C. E. Kindel Trustee Richard Bailey Trustee John Donovan Trustee John Kaemmer Trustee Joseph Langmaid Trustee Thomas Steinberg Others present: Messrs. Blake Lynch, Terry Minger, Larry Robinson, and Charles Byn3m. • I. Minutes of the Previous Meetinq. The Trustees read and unanimously approved the minutes of the previous meeting. II. Financial Reports. Treasurer's Reports and Vouchers were reviewed and unanimously approved for the month of July. It was noted that sales tax receipts at the end of June were $. , 372 as compared. with $6, 711 last year at the same period. III. Considerptio►z o _Street Va_cation_Proposal. In reviewing the status of the Harison Ranch Road vacation proposal, Blake Lynch noted that the proposal had been approved by the Planning Commission and that the lodge owners involved were jointly willing to assume the cost of improvements necessary to render the road suitable !or parkin;;. Larry Robinson summarized Draft Ordinance 10, Series of 13v3, setting forth the details of the Hanson Ranch Road vacation betwee.i Gore Creek Road aad Gore Creek Drive. Blake Lynch polled the Board. 40 VOTE: To adopt and approve Ordinance 10, Series of 1363, An Ordinance Vacating a Public Right -of -Way Known as Hanson Ranch Road Lying Betweea Gore Creek Road and Gore Creek Drive in thv Town of Vail and Setting Forth Details in Relation Thereto. Mayor Dobson YES Trustee Kindel YES Trustee Kaemmer YES Trustee Steinberg YES Trustee Langmaid YES Trustee Donovan YES Trustee Bailey YES Ordinance No. 10 will be approved and enacted as written. IV. Main Parking Lot and Area North of Covered Brid.ae. Mayor Dobson reviewed the status of the main parking area north of the Covered. Bridge; Vail Associates plans to lease this area to the Town for a nominal fee. During a preliminary discussion regarding this area, Vail Associates suggested that a 10-year lease to the Town would be appropriate; however, the Town feels that a longer term lease --with a renewal clause-- would. be more desirable. Mayor Dobson feels that a mutually agreeable arrangement will be made in the near future. The possibility of engaging Chris Moritz, Landscaping Architect, • to create a suitable village entrance area on the north side of the Covered Bridge was considered. Although we have received a cost estimate from him, acquisition of his ser- vices is, of course, contingent upon receipt of a definitive statement from Vail Associates and approval of the landscaped entrance concept. Blake Lynch queried the Board as to their thoughts on what should be done with the area in question -- should it be preserved as is for short-term parking, or should there be a formal entrance area with a ld ading loop? Blake noted that Gaynor Miller and Pieter Cramerus, owners of the property adjacent to this area, are interested, in main- taining uniformity of design in this area and in sharing the cost for same. Blake felt that this is a significant entrance into the village core, and that we should approve the general con- cept at this time. Trustee Bwiley offered that, if it were a short-term parking area, enforcement would be a definite problem. He suggested a 30-minute maximum. Trustee Donovan suggested short-term parking be provided in the large parking area on the north side of East Meadow Drive, and that the area near the Covered Bridge be totally land- 164 4�p scaped with a loop for loading and unloading only. Trustee *hm feel uor� m Kindel suggested that the businesses on�rid.ge Street should��"�e.�Qd EIhIi4j_ be queried before any decision is made. The Board agreed that parking facilities should be of secondary AFA for the PASt`" tract north of the Covered. Bridge and south of the road. A brief discussion ensued at this time regarding the feasibil- ity of parallel parking on Gore Creek Drive if it becomes a one-way street this winter. Mayor Dobson asked that the Police Department, the Planning Commission, and Blake Lynch meet and present their alternate plans for this possible addi- tional parking area at the next Trustees' Meeting to be held on September 22. V. B, s Transtportation. Mayor Dobson briefly reviewed the meetings held. with Vail Associates, the Town, and San Juan Tours, Inc. , for the purpose of considering shuttle service • between Lion's Head. and Vail Village. This item aroused a great deal of disc,ssion, with Massrs. Simon nd Parker of Vail Associates participating from the audience. It is generally recognized that shuttle service is imperative during peak hours--:i:00 a. m. to 10:00 a. m. and 3:00 p. m. to 5:00 p. rn. However, there also seems to be a very definite need. for service after d:JO p. m. --until possibly midnight --for people parked. at Lions Hoad who have been dining, etc., in Vail Village after ski hours. It was also suggested. that between 10:00 a. m. and 3:00 p, m. a Vail Village shuttle service would be very popular with shoppers and lodge -to -lodge comuters. Of major consideration at this point is wno should pay for this bus service --the 'Town and./or Vail Associates; and if the cost is to be shared --on what basis. Also discussed was the q.{es- tion of whether or not the bus traveler should pay a nominal fee --during express hours and for in -town shuttle service, or for shuttle service only. Bob Parker pointed out that there will be no businesses to speak of at Lion's Head for quite a while; the business potential is in the village, and it is there- fore in the interest of the business owners to consider the trans- portation of the skier who parks at Lion's Head to get him back there. Trustee Kindel said that if we are e.icouraging skiers to park at Lion's Head, we can hardly charge them to sh,!ttle them back from the village after express hours. It Ma was generally agreed that even token payment would be unwise in consideration of VaL's commercial. image. In any case, with the figures presently at hand it doesn't appear that it • would be profitable unless the individual fee were exhorbitant. Trustee Donovan noted that the service should be free and that he t1a:ght Vail .Associates should assume the cost for the 09 -70 season, by purchasing the buses and perhaps leasing them to the Town. The buses might then be purcl-ia,sed by the Town for the next and s.:bsequent seasons; or the Town could b,y the buses and lease them to Vail Associates. Clay Simon stated. that short -stop service could be offered from 10:00 a. m. to 3:00 p, m., and after 5:0) p. m. , if we want to o fer this service. He outlined the fo .tr main stops during express hours: 1) Golden P, ak; 2) Covered Bridge; 3) VVI/Holiday; and 4) Lion's H,;ad. Round trip would take about 1/2 hour. Trustee Langmaid suggested that recozmmeidations .for San Tuan's services be obtained from Aspen and. Snowmass--both of which have utilized their services. Citizen Weibel suggested that a r-n to Mint,,,rn twice daily would. free approximately 60 parking spaces in the Lion's Head and Vail Village areas. It was remarked that such service to Minturn couldn't be free. Mayor Dobson reiterated • the basic question --what is the community's obligation separate from Vail Associates' responsibility? Vail Associates feel their basic commitment is to shuttle skiers at peak hours; we have the problem of people who want to spend. money in Vail Village from 10:00 a. m. to 3:00 p, m. and after the express hours. The Mayor polled the Trustees for their views on sharing the cost of providing bas service. Trustee Kaemmer said that we should share the cost; Trustee Kindel said we should share the cost on an open-end basis --the cost would be absorbed by sales tax; Trustee Bailey thought we should share the expense this winter on an experimental basis; Trustee Steinberg agrees with Trustee Bailey and. believes the service should be free; Trustee Langmaid agrees to shared cost and thinks hours should be extended beyond peak periods; Trustee Donovan agrees with Trustee Kindel. Blake Lynch will meet with Clay Simon and work out a firm service schedule and cost_, sharing breakdown for presentation to the Board at its next meeting on September 22. Blake noted that December 15 is the c.srrent projected commenceme- t date for this service. Bob Parker added that the express b.:s rom Denver to Vail doesolt begin service , atil December 10; so except for a brief shake- down period, as suggested. b Trustee Kindel, the service needn't start any earlier. VI. Reports. Blake Lynch reviewed the following: A. Subdivision Regulations: Vail A.�sociates will meet this week and. the Plannin Commission will meet Monday, September 16, to disc_:ss this s bject. B. CoaveiAioa Center: Blake reviewed Jim Cunningham's recent letter to the Town outlining the various services and businesses w _dch would appropriately be included in a civic complex. Mr. Cunningham proposes the area west of the Wedel Ian as most suitable for such a complex. C. Golf Clubhouse: Blake noted that the Recreation Dis- trict is going to construct a new golf clubhouse. It is hoped that construction will commence in October and that it will be finished for next playing season. D. New Fire Chief: Francis Bush --formerly Fire Chief of Cheyenne, Wyoming, came on board. September 1 as Vail's new Fire Chief. E. Loudspeakers: Acting Chief K wth has d.istribated applications for permission to operate outside loudspeakers. Applications will appear before the Board of Trustees for . approval/disapproval. F. Street Numbering: Still under consideration; conclu- sions forthcoming. G. Winter Construction: It was suggested that Larry Robinson present the Board with an opinion on the lgeal aspects of winter construction: Trustee Donovan suggested it be done as soon as possible. VIL Mayor and Trustees: A. Trustee Kindel: 1. Streetlights near residences should be altered So that they don't create a nocturnal nuisance. One home- owner has painted "his side" of a streetlight black. Trustee Kindel suggests we might consider developing a policy on this. 2. Trustee Kindel queried as to the status of local TV reception. Mayor Dobson responded that, upon advice from Cable TV, reception should. be improved very shortly. Until last week Cable TV hadn't received approval from the BLM to build the road to their transmitter site. Mayor Dobson was assured that a Glenwood Springs contractor would have the road built within three weeks, and that a pre-fab building to house the transmitter would be completed in the two or three subsequent weeks; thus making a total of five or six weeks before improved .reception can be expected. 3. Rosidents of Vail Trails East and West have expressed a desire to have their streets made one way heading west to preclude currently heavy traffic. 4. Trustee Kindel noted that he personally had seen cars repeatedly parked in front of Gorsuch/Post Office for longer than la minutes, as well as hearing reports of same from other local citizens. Chief Knuth will make a special effort to see that this parking privilege is no longer abused. 5. The trash pickup situation was discussed. As this is a recurring complaint, Blake Lynch outlined the three basic systems we could utilize for trash pickup: a) free enterprise (the present system); b) a Town - regulated system; and 3) a Town"operated system. It was concluded that Mr. Duran should. be advised of the widespread dissatisfaction with his service and. that constructive guidance should be offered., as well as an outline of the standards to be met for the service he renders. B. Trustee Bailey inquired as to the status of the bridge • on the west end of Plat 5B. The Town is going to pave the bridge and build the approach road. We are presently acquiring excavation fill --at no cost --to level off this area. -4- C. Truetee Steinberg reported that the Recreation Dis- t rict had illegally dug into Gore Creek to provide fill for the golf course and had therefore polluted the Creek. He stated that although Trout Unlimited was aware of it, they didn't press the issue this time --but that they would if any similar actions occurred in the future. VIII. Citizen Particioation. A. So Staufer stated that clients had. checked out of local hotels on Bridge Street due to noise created by outside loudspeakers at the Red. Lion Inn, Bridge Street hotel operators have signed a petition against outside music, according to To. He stated that he thought neighbors of a loudspeaker applicant should. be allowed to express their opinion before a permit is granted. B. Editor Knox mentioned that there are several trash accumulations in town that should be cleared --namely, the one behind. the Blue Cow on Vail Associates' land. Mayor Dobson asked Blake Lynch to write letters requesting those responsible to correct the situation. Clay Simon said that Vail Associates would look into the problem behind the Blue Cow. C. Mr. Knox also brought up the traffic nuisance prob- lem created by service trucks which reknain parked in loading zones after completion of their deliveries for purposes other than business. Discussion ensued regarding the possibility of an ordinance limiting deliveries to certain times of day. Bob Parker thought this would be feasible in a resort community like Vail. Jo Staufer brought up the fact that most of the companies serving Vail have a delivery radius of 500 miles and that such a time restriction would be unreasonable with winter weather and traffic conditions. While on the subject of traffic nuisance, motor- cycle noise was briefly discussed. Some cities prohibit motorcycle traffic within given downtown areas; it was suggested that this might be appropriate for Vail. Per Bob Parker's suggestion, it was decided to present a reasonable circulation control plan for the core area to a subsequent Trustees' meeting, considering views of the Planning Commission, citizens and the Police Department. D. Bob Parker asked what plans were forthcoming for repair of our "street moguls" and. street c,As. Street cuts are being filled as they occur; and it is planned to experiment with rolling the moguls. E. It was suggested that, due to the traffic problem they are currently creating near Riva Ridge Chalets, Staider and Sons complete the parking ramp at the Lodge at Vail as soon as possible. Mr. Bynum will urge said completion. With no further business to be discussed, the meeting was adjourned at 10:15 p. m. -5- n f �J -0 • MINUTES OF THE MEETING TOWN OF VAIL JOINT BOARDS SEPTEMBER 8, 1969 Blake Lynch called the meeting to order at 2:15 p. m. ROLL CALL: Roll call found the following members present: Mayor John Dobson Trustee T. I. Steinberg Trustee Joseph Langmaid Trustee C. E. Kindel Director Francis Brofos Director Don Almond Director Josef Staufer Director C,3sare Moretti Absent: Trustee Richard Bailey Trustee John Kaemmer Trustee John Donovan Director Gerry White Director Rodney Slifer Director Robert Parker Director Larry Burdick Director Mitch Hoyt OFFICE COPY -- DO NOT REMOVE Also present: Messrs. Lynch, Minger, and Bernstein. Al Bridges of Vail Assoc. I. Messrs. Churchill and May of the Denver Regional Post Office Department joined the Board members to stress the urgent situa- tion presently confronting them regarding their location. The attorney, Mr. May, stated that although the Government is immune to eviction, they did not wish to press the issue of remaining in their present location --the P. 0. space has been promised by Mr. McBride to Gorsuch Ltd. for purposes of expanding their sport shop. If a formal contract exists between Gorsuch and McBride, the P. 0. Department would be legally liable for breakage of the contract. Mr. May added that they could exercise their right to condemn the space, but they are definitely opposed to such an action. If no suitable space is found, they might have to abandon mail service to Vail. At the present time the P.O. is paying $3. 50 per sq ft for their space, per Mr. Churchill. Director Staufer asked him if he was willing to pay the going Vail rental rate for space, and Mr. Churchill replied in the affirmative. Trustee Kindel suggested that a temporary building might be erected behind the Blue Cow in the parking area; this space belongs to Vail Asso- ciates. Mr. Bridges of Vail Assoc. inquired as to how long after October 31 (expiration of current lease) the P. 0. could stay in their present location without seriously jeopardizing the plans of Gorsuch. Mr. May replied that they wouldn't wish to stay any longer than 30 days after the expiration --December 1. Mr. Bridges suggested the space east of the access road at the Crossroads and west of the clinic as possible locations for a temporary building. Mr. Churchill suggested that they would be happy to lease or rent space provided by erection of a temporary structure owned and built by a local concern. It was generally agreed that such a temporary building would be of the metal Butler variety. Regarding the proposed municipal complex, in which the P. O. would have its own site and separate building, Mr. Churchill stated that as, soon as the land is available, the P. 0. could begin construction almost immediately due to Federal funds authorized for this purpose. Being as all available locations for a temporary structure are owned by Vail Associates, Mayor Dobson suggested to Mr. Bridges that Vail Associates submit three or more sites to the P. 0. Department for their consideration/approval and subsequent approval by the Trustees. A site should. be firmly established within 15 to 20 days. A f page 2 II. 1970 Budget. Blake briefly reviewed his memorandum to the Board regarding 1968-69 ice skating statistics and outlining the projected revenues and expenses for the 69-70 season. He then reviewed the specific cuts made in the supplementary request to reduce the total from $148,150 to $114, 000. The VRA advertising item was reduced by 50%v--to $7, 500. It was suggested that we augment this figure from funds derived from sales tax exceeding the budget revenue estimate. The Police request was decreased from $8, 760 to $5, 200. Landscaping/Paving was cut from $48, 000 to $30, 000. Sign replacement was cut from $2, 500 to $2, 000; Recreation/Golf was cut from $22, 890 to $13,140; Recreation/Tennis was cut completely ($1, 500). The Fire Department request was cut 5076--to $4, 000. The base budget is generally approved; mill levies for Town and Districts will be certified before October 16. III. Terry Minger approached. the Board regarding expenditure of $1., 000 to $1, 500 to have a snow plow mounted on our dump truck. The Board of Trustees unanimously approved the expenditure of $1, 000 for the plow; the additional to be authorized for snow tires for the vehicle at a later date. 10 With no further business to be discussed, the meeting adjourned at 4:15 p. m. • E