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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1969-09-22 Town Council MinutesMINUTES OF THE METTING BCA.RD OF TRUSTFFS srPTF'MPER 7?, Wq _ Prior to the Town meeting, the Poard of Trustees convened as the local Liquor Hearing Paard to establish a hearing, dhte for the following applications: 1. Richard Evancho: application for weer and wine license for "Toph's Downstairs", to be located in the La, ier Arcade Building. ?. James Hinson: application for hotel/restaurant license for the "Red Ram", to be located in the Sitzinark. Hearings for both the aforementioned applicants will be held at 2:00 p. rr. on November 10, 1Q69, in the Conference Roorc: at Manor Vail. T''re Meeting was called to -)rder by Mayor T`^bson at 7:40 p. m. ,�CLL CALL: TZ-11 call found the following members present: N.Lyor John Dobson Trustee Joseph Langmaid Trustee C. F. Kindel Trustee Thomas I. "teinberg Trustee John Donovan Trustee John Kzernmer Trustee Richard P_ a.iley Others present: Yiessrs. F. Flake I.-vnch, Terrell J. M'.nger, Cbarles Pynurr, Gary Knuth, Larry Robinson. I. Minutes of ?revious Meeting. t"ith the following exception, the Minutes of the Meeting held September 8th were unanimously approved. (In line 2.7 of page 2, the words "secondary area" will be changed to read "secondary use. " On line 24 of page 2, the sentence beginning "Trustee Kindel" will read: "Trustee K'.ndel suggested that the businesses on bridge Street should be queried before any decision is made --he feels that the -10 area just north of the Covered Pridge should be a prirr•ary parking area.!' II. Gulf Oil ?rotest Mayor Dobson stated that were advised by Gulf Cil this afternoon of their intent not to make a formal protest regarding the erection of their con,mercial sign. T'-,ey have agreed to discuss the matter with the "ign Committee to come to a mutually agreeable arrangerrent at a meeting on'.' ednesday, Cepterrber Z4, at 1:"0 p.rr. III, 'Presentation of Core rea Traffic Circulation Plan for 77inter, Acting Chief •<nuth presented the proposed core area traffic circulation plan approved by the Planning Commission. After some discussion two changes were made to the plan --these were to (t) make Hanson Ranch R"ad one way going, west from Gore Creek Road to the inter- section near the Chili Fowl (per Bob Clark's presentation to the Trustees), and (7) leave 1.7 illow R^ad one way going west. The Circulation Plan is attached hereto as F'xhibit A. Mayor Dobson made a inotion to vote on approval of the plan; Trustee Langmaid seconded the rn.otion. V(`TE: Approve Circulation Plan with two aforementioned exceptions. N.'.ayor Dobson YE^ Trustee Langmaid YES 16 Trustee Vindel YES Trustee D,)novan YES Trustee Steinberg YES Trustee Kaemmer YES Trustee T'ailey YES New 'Traffic Circulation flan will go into effect as soon as possible. 17'hile on the discussion of winter traffic, 'Trustee T indel suggested that the corners of HtnsonRt*Inch Road near the Tivoli be widened to better accommodate vehicles turning into the Road. Citizen Robert Parker suggested that a stop sign be erected near the Mill Creek C,)urt Building; on Gore Greek Drive to preclude any collisions between vehicles not able to stop as they descend the hill north of Gore Creek Drive and those proceeding east on Gore Creek Drive. C' ief r'nuth will submit the new plan to the V--il Trail for pub= lication in several successive issues to insure that all V-.il citizens are apprised of changes. IV. Unit 1 Sign Oresentation. Niessrs. Duane V' iens and Chuck r..nford of Unit 1 presented a group of slides depicting mockups of proposed individual directory/telephone/ trash units; facsimiles of non -regulatory traffic signs in comparison to presently utili�.ed signs (their models showed the internationally recogni_-:ed symbols --with the appropriate english explanations underneath); various commercial signs with one basic geometric theme; and signs color -coded to coincide with different areas of the village --all stressing graphic continuity throughtout the Town. Trustee Kindel questioned the legality of utilizing international symbols, but it was noted that an appropriate english explanation appeared on the signs. Mr. Kindel also mentioned that it would be illegal for the 'Town to erect any directional signs for Local businesses.. -Blake Lynch noted that a letter has been sent to Sim Cunningham --President of VRA asking them to summarize their design standards for local commercial directional signs. Mayor Robson pointed out that -the fabrication of standard signs for Vail Village and Lion's Head should be a joint venture among VRA, V Al Associates, and the Town. Unit l stated that an 18" x 18" metal sign could be fabricated in lots of 10 for $5 or $6 each. Mr. Parker said that Vail .Associates is asking Unit 1 to design signs for use all over the mountain, for restaurants and restrooms, or by Vail Associates --for parking areas, directional signs involving Vail Associates facilities and information centers. All these things would be on Vail Associates' property. Mr. Seibert asked Unit 1 to do a preliminary investigation on street signs because of Vail Associates' interest in stimulating thinking at the Town level, Mr. Parker suggested that an outline be drawn up of the Town's needs. 331dke noted that we should work with Unit 1 on establishing an hourly rate--wtth a definite maximum --for designing parking signs, speed limit signs, street signs and Town information signs. Ivir. Danford offered to coarse up with a proposal and estimated cost- he could perhaps set the project up in phases and give definite prices for each individual phase. Unit l's proposal will be presented to the Trustees at the Joint Board meeting on Friday, September 26, to consider the proposed 1970 Budget. V. Peeliminary Presentation of 1970 Budget. Blake Lynch reviewed the preliminary 1970 Rudget presentation. He noted that there is $100, 000 available to be allocated among requests made by the Districts and the Town. $25, 000 has been placed in con- tingency for things which will occur next summer. $30, 000 was cut out of the Recreation District request; $8, 000 capital outlay request was cut from the Fire District; the extra Police vehicle was cut; and the Public V"orks Director was -cut. There will be a joint Board meeting at 2,00 p.m. , on Friday, SP ptember 26, at the Holiday Inn, to discuss the above. Next year, due to the Town's assessed valuation of $6, 500, 000, each mill levied will be worth $6, 500--based on next year's con- struction. That will be $1, 500 more per mill than this year with an assessed valuation of $5, 000, 000. VI. Consideration of Applications to Operate Loudspeakers. Applications were introduced for the iced Lion Inn, the Clock Tower Inn, and Mountain Music. dome discussion ensued regarding outside music --Mr. Parker said that it is reasonable to assume that some citizens turn in early, in which case outside music past a certain hour might be very undesirable; this refers to applicants who might want to have music later than 5:00 p.m. Trustee Kindel asked if one infraction of the permit was sufficient to revoke it. Trustee Bailey agreed that an infraction clause is necessary in the permit. Citizen Bob Clark stated that he didn't think background music should be used for advertising purposes. Trustee Steinberg agreed and added that background music shouldn't be audible beyond the premises of the establishment playing it. Editor Xnox suggested that permits be given only where instrumental background music would be involved --vocals being undesirable. Trustee Findel asked if such permit could be revoked by the Trustees without showing good cause. BlAke Lynch stressed that there should be a uniform cutoff time each night to preclude enforcement confusion. Trustee Langmaid brought out that if out- side music were heard in winter, it would be strictly for advertising purposes as the winter weather prohibits outside dining. Trustee Langmaid said that he was not in favor of any outside music, and that we should either allow it or not allow it, without minutely qualifying who can and cannot have permission, as it is very difficult to dis-tinguish who should aril shouldn't be allowed. This will be taken into further consideration -before any permits are issued. VII. ARpointment of New Planning Commission Member., To be discus sed at next meeting. VIII. Discussion of Need for Additional Recreation Programs and Facilities. To be discussed after further consideration by the Board. IX. Discussion of the Regulation of Transient yellers. Mayor Dobson reviewed the fact that we have no ordinance covering transient selling --we should give some consideration to a "Green River" ordinance. Attorney Robinson reported that the Colorado Municipal League has provided us with a publication dealing spe- cifically with this subject, and it was his thought that it would be necessary to refine a system of licensing to regualte transient selling. Vre need a more stringent means of licensing than we presently have. Theme should be a time gap to afford the Town administration the opportunity to investigate individual or company that is applying; - 3- i, e. , five days after application. Blake and Larry are to draft an ordinance excluding transient selling nn public property in the business areas. Itwas deeided that such an ordinance should include door-to-door salesmen, who could continue their sales 46 activities by making telephone calls to prospective clients and establishing appointments. X. Discussion of Municipal League Requests. A. Regarding Public Service Rate Increase, Blake queried the Board about committing $50 with which to use the Colorado Municipal League as a vehicle to participate in proceedings before the PUC to determine whether the proposed rates should be approved. Trustee Langmaid made a motion to commit the $50 for representation. Trustee Steinberg seconded the motion. VCTE: Commit $50 to Colorado Municipal League to participate as representative before PUG. Mayor Dobson YES Trustee Langmaid YEA Trustee Kindel ABSTAIN Trustee Steinberg YES Trustee Bailey YES Trustee Donovan YES Trustee Kaemmer YES $50 is committed to Colorado Municipal League for above purpose. B. Blake reviewed Colorado Municipal League memorandum. re Doing Away with Small Town :)treet Departments, with the counties assuming their functions. Trustees will consider and submit their recornmenda- tions to Blake. XI. Town Attorney Reports. A. Means of Restricting Delivery Vehicles: Trustees can adopt any reasonable regulations they feel appropriate in this regard --there are no, legal obsta-cles. B. Prohibiting Motorcycles in Core Area: If we prohibit motor- cycles from specific areas, we must have a legitimate purpose in mind-- such as public welfare and safety; and we should deal with noise as such. C. Winter Construction: If aesthetic considerations are the basic reason for desiring such an ordinance, it goes somewhat beyond the authority of a legislative body; however, if it were for the Welfare and safety of the publip, it would hold up. The thought was brought up that some projects which are started in spring or summer may extend well into the winter. Construction cannot be curtailed in only one part of the community --we cannot dis- criminate without sound reasons. Discussion on Attorney'9 Reports: Enforcement of delivery vehicle schedule is definitely a manpower problem for the Police Department. Mr. Parker suggested thwt we become more stringent in this area. D/?ayor Dobson suggests that we send diplomatic letters o£ warning of possible arrest if delivery vehicles do not comply with parking regulations. Trustee Kindel suggested that we keep copies of such letter available to hand out to delivery personnel and that their supervisors be informed to call the Police Depairtment sub- »4- Sequent to such a warning. We will see if Police personnel situation is adequate enough to consider this. :Regarding motor- cycles, it was consluded that further study was needed; in the meantime the Police will attempt to enforce the noise ordinance. Reference winter cnnstruction, Attorney Robinson stated that it makes sense to say that construction cannot be commenced after a certain date. If we can't completely stop construction, . perhaps we could be more stringent on the areas in which con- tractors can build because of the traffic problem it creates. Mr. Bynum offered that if construction work is abandoned for more than 120 days, the contractor is penalized by the requirement to apply for another Building Permit in order to resume construction. The Board would like to have the Town staffs recommendations as soon as possible after staff has researched what other states and towns within Colorado do about this. Trustee Steinberg brought up the matter of hauling trash away from winter construction sites after the snow falls. XII. Reports. Blake Lynch reviewed the following: .A. Refuse Removal: Blake has sent a letter to Leo Duran; Mr. Duran J)Ians to see us regarding his Rubish Removal business --he may be working with a manager in the future to resolve his operational problems. P. Bus Transportation: Final report is not available at this time. We plan to meet with a Denver bus company to explore the possibilities of leasing buses. Hopefully, at the next Trustee meeting we will have a final report including all pertinent financing. C. July Sales Tax Comparison: Blake reported that July 1969 sales tax is $11, 863 as compared to $8, 000 for July of last year. D. Subdivision Regulations: It is hoped that these regulations will be revised and ready for adoption at the next meeting of the Trustees. E. Water and Sewer Bond Election- The Water & Sanitation District will probably hold a bond election this fall. The public will be con- tacted at the appropriate time. 'III. Mayor and Trustees. No items. XIV. Citizen Participation. Bob Parker queried the Trustees and audience as to their feelings about sonic booms created by the supersonic transport currently being devel- oped. He stated that jets are currently flying over Vail once every three minutes, but because they are usually in a land take off pattern, their speed is not sufficient to create a boom. However, commercial SST's will be flying non-stop from coast to coast at a very high rate of speed which will create a boom. Mr. Parker feels that this is_very bad for our business. He suggests expressing our opinion to President Nixon, who is due to approve/disapprove the continuation of a Government subsidy for SST development tomorrow. V:Tith the exception of Trustee Bailey who abstained, the 'Trustees voted unanimously to send the following telegram to President Nixon- -5- "To President Richard M. Nixon/Whitt House/Washington D. C. / Supessonic jets on corrunercial schedules over Rockies would irreparsb4y damage tourist industry and defile many beautiful and historic western landmarks. Say no to sonic booms over 46 continental U.S. /Respectfully/Board of Trustees/Town of Vail, Colorado." Vith no further business to be discussed, the meeting adjourned at 11:05 P. M. • - 6- • •