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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1970-06-29 Town Council MinutesMINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AND VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION 6 June 29, 1970-Vail Elementary School The meeting was brought to order by Mayor John A. Dobson at 7:50 p.m. 1. ROLL CALL found the following members present: BOARD OF TRUSTEES: Mayor Dobson Trustee Donovan Trustee White Trustee Bailey Trustee Steinberg PLANNING COMMISSION: Rodney Slifer John Dobson John Donovan ALSO: Terrell J. Minger, Town Manager II. CARS AND TRUCKS ON BRIDGE STREET: Mayor Dobson informed the pub -- lie present that the purpose of this meeting was to formulate opinions nd possible solutions to the traffic and parking problem on Bridge street. It has been found that those cars parking in restricted areas are taking advantage of the privilege and delivery vehicles are en- gaging in other activities other than those connected with deliveries. Trustee Donovan suggested that the delivery people could be required to observe certain delivery hours. Trustee Donovan (as a Trustee and property owner on Bridge Street) felt that a restriction of this type would not be a hinderance as milk, bread, other perishable items and trash collection could be completed by 9:30 a.m. There are some irregular deliveries who spend approximately five hours a day in Vail (Budweiser as an example) and perhaps certain considerations could be granted these people. Difficulties could arise from trying to re- strict Rio Grande deliveries to specific hours. It was further suggest - ad that a windshield displayed pass could be utilized by these special delivery vehicles. Another bottleneck element discussed was workmen doing work out of their trucks. They could possibly park outside the area after delivering their tools to the location. It was also noted that this might mean greater expense to the property owners. It was .further agreed that hhis type of sacrifice might be necessary in order to maintain the aesthetic quality of Bridge street. This would ile a summer arrangement only. The Gore Creek ten minute parking zone as discussed. If trucks park to unload it is extremely difficult to enforce the 10 minute zone. If it cannot be kept down to ten minutes then perhaps the solution would be to extend the zone to 30 minutes. Mayor Dobson asked the property owners if they objected if the Town got tough with the delivery and service people. It was the general consen_- sus of the public and Board members present that some type of solution along these lines could be favorably worked out. Joe Staufer commented that if we are talking about a pedestrian village then the streets in the core of the Town should be closed to vehicles with full support by • the shop owners to enforce this regulation. It was stated that the construction of the Mountain Haus on East Meadow Drive would prohibit the Town from enforcing as strict traffic regulations this summer as are desired. Mr. Kindel expressed his concern about the drive through tourists who are just driving and ignoring signs, many going wrong ,way on one-way streets and driving up Bridge Street. He further queried how this problem could be controlled --more enforcement -more police bodies on Bridge Street? Mr. Parker suggested better utilization of the policemen we have. The traffic on Bridge Street and Gore Creek Drive at lunch hours has been creating a problem also. Motor cycles, cement mixers and other large, noisy vehicles roar up and down and disturb the peace and quiet of those eating their lunch on the outdoor patios. It was suggested that Gore Creek Drive be closed to traffic during the hours of 11:30 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. and enforce a pedestrian village at this crutial time. Mr. Kindel felt that there would have to be a change in attitude of the people who live here to enable these changes and would not continge soley on enforcing the law. Joseph $taufer suggested chaining off Core Area for the peak lunch period. Mayor Dobson assured the public that all of these suggestions would be taken into consideration before a final decision was made. Dale McCall asked what measures were being taken to control the dust problem. Mr. Minger stated that the water truck has been used -perhaps not as much as it should be, but they endeavor to water in the morning, afternoon; and evenings with applications of calcium chloride. Vail Associates have been oiling some of the parking areas within the core and outside. II. CONSIDERATION OF BUS STOP LOCATION: Mayor Dobson read a letter rom Mr. Bob Nott of Vail Associates which allows the Town to use the old ticket booth and place it on the land where the directory sign is ?resently located. (Exhibit A) The stipulated conditions seemed fair. Ar. Minger assured that the Town has presently explore�1ir the possibility 3f moving the building to the aforementioned location and the cost in doing so. Mr. Dale McCall stated that the directory sign and map :were obsolete and had received a letter from the sign committee re- questing that measures be taken to remedy the situation. Therefore, the VRA had no objections to the removal of the directory when the 'Duilding was placed in location. Mayor Dobson informed the Board that the Continental Trailways Company had agreed to pay rent up to '150.00 a month. _V. STATUS OF POST OFFICE: Mr. Minger reiterated the consessions .,ade with Vail Associates to obtain the present land which is pre- ently being used to design the Municipal Complex. It had been ppraised at a quarter of a million dollars; although it is not a .->mpletely ideal site no other sites are forth coming. The Post ,ffice fairly well committed to build this year. Mayor Dobson assured JP�e public that the Board had voted to go ahead some months ago after onsiderable deliberation the plan being used to finance the project ,as not a hurry up decision. A non-profit corporation type of financ- ing had been recommended by the Bond Attorneys -enabling us to see the 3onds needed to finance. Mr. Langmaid filled in the public on the 'ire Station problems and situation -very tight plan with the loss of 'he twenty feet of property, no room for expansion of the Fire House ,'ection. Mr. Bob Nott of Vail Associates stated that the property has )een resurveyed and will be receiving the information in the next day rr two --may be possible to re-evaluate the Post Office and convince :hem to take up less space add some extra footage to the Fire House. P'ayor Dobson asked for comments from the floor. Rodney Slifer of the Planning Commission stated that the Planning Commission has examined the site and discussed it with consideration to the economic problem. The commission felt that it was a workable situation through proper design, etc. They further felt that the Fire House problems are individual from the Main Complex and the Fire House could possible be located at a different adjacent site. Mr. George Knox, Vaal Trail, suggested as an alternate site the Town could obtain rights on the Main Parking lot and combine the Municipal Complex with structured parking. Mayor Dobson assured that the points were well taken but such a situation would not make it possible to sell bonds -leased land. V. CONSTRUCTION SITE PROBLEMS: Mr. Slifer reported that the condi- tions of the construction sites stiou lci be considered a menace to the cleanliness of the Town. Materials should be confined behind a fence to hide from public view (in core area). We must start coping with the. problem before it gets completely out of control. It was queried if Bob Mayne could haul away trash from construction sites with his trash removal equipment. Mr. Minger stated the nuisance and trash Ordinances are good measures to take but very difficult to enforce, unless the Town had sufficient personnel assigned especially to enforce them. Mayor Dobson assured that the Board would go over all problems as quickly as possible and tighten up on the construction people. VI. OTHER BUSINESS: Mr. Hastings reported that the signs put up W_ince the last meeting were not placed in the proper locations. Fie uerled the location of the future signs to be erected. Mr. Hastings eras instructed to check with Gary Knuth, Police Chief, to expedite the best program. 'ith no further business the meeting adjourned at 10:25 P.M. 0 • 0 • June 18, 1970 Mayor John Dobson Town of Vail Vail, Colorado Dear John: I have discussed the matter of the Ticket Shack with Peter Seibert, and he is agreeable to a lease arrangement subject r to the following general terms and conditions. The lease would be on a year to year basis; however, a can- cellation provision should be included to protect Vail Asso- ciates in the event we sell or develop the property on which the facility is located (I'm assuming that you intend to locate it at the site of the present directory sign). The cost of moving and reassembling the shack, together witil all maintenance costs should be borne by the Town. The Town should return the shack to Vail Associates at the expiration of the lease term, in good condition, subject to reasonable wear and tear. There should be proper landscaping in the vicinity of the shack. Vail Associates will not charge rent for the ground, and any rental that the Town might be able to generate from carriers such as Continental Trailways would accrue to the Town. Any real estate taxes assessed against the shack, or other improvements made by the Town should be borne by the Town. AREA coos 303 476.5601 ONE WALL STREET, VAIL, COLORADO 81657 Mayor John Dobson June 18, 1970 Page Two I think this summarizes our general feelings with respect to this project. I look forward to hearing from you in the near future regard-, ing this matter. Best regards, VAIL ASSOCIATES, INC. Robert H. Nott i? Vice President - Real Estate J ,f. • 0- 0 Mr. Terry Minger Town Manager Town of Vail Vail, Colorado 816S7 r Dear Mr. Minger: As per our conversation of June 16, Vail Associates, Inc. agrees to loan one (1) lift operator building to the Town of Vail for the summer season. Vail Associates, Inc., also, will allow the Town to place this building on the Fire House Parking Lot for this summer. The Town agrees to return the building in the Fall to a general area specified by Vail Associates. Terry, please drop me a note regarding permission for snow cat operations on city streets. It is agreeable to me to include something about payment we will make for any damage incurred. Very truly yours, VAIL ASSOCIATES, INC. Don Almond Mountain Manager DA/plk AREA CODE 303 476-5601 ONE WALL STREET, VAIL, COLORADO 81657 --