HomeMy WebLinkAbout1970-06-29 Town Council MinutesMINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
AND VAIL PLANNING COMMISSION
6 June 29, 1970-Vail Elementary School
The meeting was brought to order by Mayor John A. Dobson at 7:50 p.m.
1. ROLL CALL found the following members present:
BOARD OF TRUSTEES: Mayor Dobson
Trustee Donovan
Trustee White
Trustee Bailey
Trustee Steinberg
PLANNING COMMISSION: Rodney Slifer
John Dobson
John Donovan
ALSO: Terrell J. Minger, Town Manager
II. CARS AND TRUCKS ON BRIDGE STREET: Mayor Dobson informed the pub --
lie present that the purpose of this meeting was to formulate opinions
nd possible solutions to the traffic and parking problem on Bridge
street. It has been found that those cars parking in restricted areas
are taking advantage of the privilege and delivery vehicles are en-
gaging in other activities other than those connected with deliveries.
Trustee Donovan suggested that the delivery people could be required
to observe certain delivery hours. Trustee Donovan (as a Trustee and
property owner on Bridge Street) felt that a restriction of this type
would not be a hinderance as milk, bread, other perishable items and
trash collection could be completed by 9:30 a.m. There are some
irregular deliveries who spend approximately five hours a day in Vail
(Budweiser as an example) and perhaps certain considerations could be
granted these people. Difficulties could arise from trying to re-
strict Rio Grande deliveries to specific hours. It was further suggest -
ad that a windshield displayed pass could be utilized by these special
delivery vehicles. Another bottleneck element discussed was workmen
doing work out of their trucks. They could possibly park outside the
area after delivering their tools to the location. It was also noted
that this might mean greater expense to the property owners. It was
.further agreed that hhis type of sacrifice might be necessary in order
to maintain the aesthetic quality of Bridge street. This would
ile a summer arrangement only. The Gore Creek ten minute parking zone
as discussed. If trucks park to unload it is extremely difficult to
enforce the 10 minute zone. If it cannot be kept down to ten minutes
then perhaps the solution would be to extend the zone to 30 minutes.
Mayor Dobson asked the property owners if they objected if the Town got
tough with the delivery and service people. It was the general consen_-
sus of the public and Board members present that some type of solution
along these lines could be favorably worked out. Joe Staufer commented
that if we are talking about a pedestrian village then the streets in
the core of the Town should be closed to vehicles with full support by
• the shop owners to enforce this regulation. It was stated that the
construction of the Mountain Haus on East Meadow Drive would prohibit
the Town from enforcing as strict traffic regulations this summer as
are desired. Mr. Kindel expressed his concern about the drive through
tourists who are just driving and ignoring signs, many going wrong
,way on one-way streets and driving up Bridge Street. He further queried
how this problem could be controlled --more enforcement -more police
bodies on Bridge Street? Mr. Parker suggested better utilization of
the policemen we have. The traffic on Bridge Street and Gore Creek
Drive at lunch hours has been creating a problem also. Motor cycles,
cement mixers and other large, noisy vehicles roar up and down and
disturb the peace and quiet of those eating their lunch on the outdoor
patios. It was suggested that Gore Creek Drive be closed to traffic
during the hours of 11:30 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. and enforce a pedestrian
village at this crutial time. Mr. Kindel felt that there would have
to be a change in attitude of the people who live here to enable these
changes and would not continge soley on enforcing the law. Joseph
$taufer suggested chaining off Core Area for the peak lunch period.
Mayor Dobson assured the public that all of these suggestions would be
taken into consideration before a final decision was made. Dale McCall
asked what measures were being taken to control the dust problem. Mr.
Minger stated that the water truck has been used -perhaps not as much
as it should be, but they endeavor to water in the morning, afternoon;
and evenings with applications of calcium chloride. Vail Associates
have been oiling some of the parking areas within the core and outside.
II. CONSIDERATION OF BUS STOP LOCATION: Mayor Dobson read a letter
rom Mr. Bob Nott of Vail Associates which allows the Town to use the
old ticket booth and place it on the land where the directory sign is
?resently located. (Exhibit A) The stipulated conditions seemed fair.
Ar. Minger assured that the Town has presently explore�1ir the possibility
3f moving the building to the aforementioned location and the cost in
doing so. Mr. Dale McCall stated that the directory sign and map
:were obsolete and had received a letter from the sign committee re-
questing that measures be taken to remedy the situation. Therefore,
the VRA had no objections to the removal of the directory when the
'Duilding was placed in location. Mayor Dobson informed the Board
that the Continental Trailways Company had agreed to pay rent up to
'150.00 a month.
_V. STATUS OF POST OFFICE: Mr. Minger reiterated the consessions
.,ade with Vail Associates to obtain the present land which is pre-
ently being used to design the Municipal Complex. It had been
ppraised at a quarter of a million dollars; although it is not a
.->mpletely ideal site no other sites are forth coming. The Post
,ffice fairly well committed to build this year. Mayor Dobson assured
JP�e public that the Board had voted to go ahead some months ago after
onsiderable deliberation the plan being used to finance the project
,as not a hurry up decision. A non-profit corporation type of financ-
ing had been recommended by the Bond Attorneys -enabling us to see the
3onds needed to finance. Mr. Langmaid filled in the public on the
'ire Station problems and situation -very tight plan with the loss of
'he twenty feet of property, no room for expansion of the Fire House
,'ection. Mr. Bob Nott of Vail Associates stated that the property has
)een resurveyed and will be receiving the information in the next day
rr two --may be possible to re-evaluate the Post Office and convince
:hem to take up less space add some extra footage to the Fire House.
P'ayor Dobson asked for comments from the floor. Rodney Slifer of the
Planning Commission stated that the Planning Commission has examined
the site and discussed it with consideration to the economic problem.
The commission felt that it was a workable situation through proper
design, etc. They further felt that the Fire House problems are
individual from the Main Complex and the Fire House could possible be
located at a different adjacent site. Mr. George Knox, Vaal Trail,
suggested as an alternate site the Town could obtain rights on the
Main Parking lot and combine the Municipal Complex with structured
parking. Mayor Dobson assured that the points were well taken but such
a situation would not make it possible to sell bonds -leased land.
V. CONSTRUCTION SITE PROBLEMS: Mr. Slifer reported that the condi-
tions of the construction sites stiou lci be considered a menace to the
cleanliness of the Town. Materials should be confined behind a fence
to hide from public view (in core area). We must start coping with
the. problem before it gets completely out of control. It was queried
if Bob Mayne could haul away trash from construction sites with his
trash removal equipment. Mr. Minger stated the nuisance and trash
Ordinances are good measures to take but very difficult to enforce,
unless the Town had sufficient personnel assigned especially to enforce
them. Mayor Dobson assured that the Board would go over all problems
as quickly as possible and tighten up on the construction people.
VI. OTHER BUSINESS: Mr. Hastings reported that the signs put up
W_ince the last meeting were not placed in the proper locations. Fie
uerled the location of the future signs to be erected. Mr. Hastings
eras instructed to check with Gary Knuth, Police Chief, to expedite
the best program.
'ith no further business the meeting adjourned at 10:25 P.M.
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June 18, 1970
Mayor John Dobson
Town of Vail
Vail, Colorado
Dear John:
I have discussed the matter of the Ticket Shack with Peter
Seibert, and he is agreeable to a lease arrangement subject r
to the following general terms and conditions.
The lease would be on a year to year basis; however, a can-
cellation provision should be included to protect Vail Asso-
ciates in the event we sell or develop the property on which
the facility is located (I'm assuming that you intend to
locate it at the site of the present directory sign).
The cost of moving and reassembling the shack, together witil
all maintenance costs should be borne by the Town.
The Town should return the shack to Vail Associates at the
expiration of the lease term, in good condition, subject to
reasonable wear and tear.
There should be proper landscaping in the vicinity of the
shack.
Vail Associates will not charge rent for the ground, and any
rental that the Town might be able to generate from carriers
such as Continental Trailways would accrue to the Town.
Any real estate taxes assessed against the shack, or other
improvements made by the Town should be borne by the Town.
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Mayor John Dobson
June 18, 1970
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I think this summarizes our general feelings with respect to
this project.
I look forward to
hearing from you in the near future regard-,
ing this matter.
Best regards,
VAIL ASSOCIATES, INC.
Robert H. Nott
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Vice President - Real Estate
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Mr. Terry Minger
Town Manager
Town of Vail
Vail, Colorado 816S7
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Dear Mr. Minger:
As per our conversation of June 16, Vail Associates,
Inc. agrees to loan one (1) lift operator building to the
Town of Vail for the summer season.
Vail Associates, Inc., also, will allow the Town to
place this building on the Fire House Parking Lot for
this summer. The Town agrees to return the building in
the Fall to a general area specified by Vail Associates.
Terry, please drop me a note regarding permission for
snow cat operations on city streets. It is agreeable to
me to include something about payment we will make for any
damage incurred.
Very truly yours,
VAIL ASSOCIATES, INC.
Don Almond
Mountain Manager
DA/plk
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