HomeMy WebLinkAbout1970-08-10 Town Council MinutesMINUTES OF THF JOTNTT ?iEETING
OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
AND
VA.IL PLANNING COMB IISSION
AUGUST 10, 1970
VAIL ELF"ENTARY SCHOOL
I. ROLL CALL: found the followj.nv members present:
Board of Trustces: "ayor Dobson
Trustee Todd Anderson
Trustee Richard Bailey
Trustee Thomas Steinberg
Trustee John Donovan
Planning Commission: Chairman Rodney Slifer
Jo'-n A. Dobson
John ?Donovan
Dave Gorsuch
Robert Clark
Others: Terry rsinger
II. FLOOR A?EA RATIO: Mayor Dobson introduced Rodney Slifer, Chairman of the 'fail -.Planning Commission to introduce the subject
to the Board and audience. rIr. . Slifer briefed the !dience on the
definition of FAR. and the 1.5 ratio presently urea in the Core Area.
lie further explained that after a special meeting of the Board of
Trustees and the Planning Commission it was decided to put the con-
sideration of lowering the FAR to 1.23 before the public. Floor
Area Ratio schedules for the Commercial Core Area I was passed to
the audience and explained by *fir. Slifer. Mr. Robert €Tott, Vice -
President of ?teal Estate for Vail .Associates, queried the effect the
reduction of FAR would have on Lionsl-lead. mr. Slifer pointed out
that the present set backs do affect both CC Areas I & IT and that
any reduction of PAR will be discussed to affect LionsHead. Tyr.
Slifer then called for discussion from the floor. It was noted
that all businesses received a letter to attend this meeting with
the intention of using the meeting as a sounding board so that a
decision could be reached. Mr. '. felt that LionsFead and CC I
-•.o not seem to be comparable in a decision. The question of con-
Widering PUD (Planned Unit Development) was brought up but not con-
sidered to be of too great of importance in the matter at hand.
Vavor Dobson pointed out that although the present fi_t?ure of 1.53
r+ CC I sounds great, you have to realize that there are several
huilding.,s way v-zider the PAR and if they build to their maximum we
are in troulle. it could be as high as a 50 percent increase if
everyone built to the maximum. 'Ir. Nott felt that set backs were
a very primitive method of regulating density ---it had been abandoned
very long ago with FAR adopted in its place. Mr. Ming.,er stated that
set backs had given away to PUD's and not FAR.',. He further felt
that perhaps set backs were not so necessary for sides but definite-
ly for front and b&Lik. Trustee Donovan queried the problem of what
to do with the great increase of people if it were developed to a
maximum. It would be difficult to service that many people. It was
also stated that if you have controls via set backs and FAR, you
are then able to control density and it would cause the developer
-Co use a little more imagination in design. This j,iould enable the
village to keep its aesthetics and this is T•ihat Vail is trying to
sell, which is what has given Wail its uniqueness in the past ---not
just a mountain of snow. 11ranv buildings being built now are in-
consistant with the ie[ea that va; T "�' Dobson pointed
out that many of the 1,,,a.� ss.l?gs which are violating '�hc.:e aesthetics
were built be-Fove the Town started putting- restrictions into effect.
The Town of Vail does not have any constraint on the Arch Control
Board.-. but can only use set backs and FAR as a very limited means
of restraint. It was queried if the Town could have the Arch Con-
trol Board undc" the co;itrol of the Town? Per, Larry Robinson, Town
Attor .— stated that the Town does not have anv aesthetic controls
-.%a no power to pass on aesthetics. it was the general consensus
of the Board that LionsHead should be treated as a different situa-
tion than the Village Core Area. Mayor Dobson felt that the Arch
Control Board has not been as sensitive to the problem as the Town
�A has been. The Town has attempted to control this problem by passimg
restrictive ordinances. *�Iayor Dobson asked the Arch Board To come
up with a policy statement. Mr. Brittan, member of the Arch Board,
reminded the Mayor that it was the Arch Board that initiated this dis-
cussion. He further suggested that the Board of Trustees aauaint
themselves with the provisions of the covenants of the Arch Board.
The Board ;ias powers only as appointed to it by Vail Associates. MT.
Slifer stated that the Arch Board had recommended the reduction of the
FAR but did not sugc*est a number. `4r. Brittan suggested a referendum.
P"r. Grosuct, sited Carmel, California, as a good example of a resort
area which has been extremely restrictive and effective in maintaining
its aesthetic values, Mr. rarlcer pointed out that Carmel has es-
tablished its regulations .a long time ago and the community grew
slowly. This enabled them to set a long period of president. °?r.
Gershbach suggested that perhaps ure do have a PUD problem. Expansion
for shop space is an entirely different situation tY!.an -expansion for
lodging and residence purposes. '"r. Seibert felt -chat it would be up
to the Town tc explain to the individuals who bought on the under-
standing that they could expand to 1..5 and now 5.t has been reduced.
Trustees Bailey and Anderson felt that the merchants on Bridge Street
had been given adequate notice of the meeting and it is at these pub-
lic hearings that the decisions would be made according to the will
of the people. Mayor Dobson felt it f_ttin<<. to set another meeting
and notify all peoples concerned to attend and resolve the situation.
Therefore, consider this meeting to continue in two weeks time and
strive for a better turn out.
• III. DOG CONTROL ORDINARM It was moved by Trustee Bailey with a
second-Trom PrusteE 4nderson to pass the Dog Control Ordinance,
(Ordinance #10, series of 1970),
VOTE: Mayor Dobson
`rS,
Trustee
Anderson
YF`�
Trustee
Steinberg
YES
Trustee
Bailey
YES
Trustee
Donovan
NO
The motion was passed by a majority.
TV. ORDINANCE #11 SERIES Or 1970: An ordinasnce amending ordinance
No. 6 of the ordinances of the Towr. of Vail, 1969 series, adopting by
^eference the "Uniform Building, Code`: 1967 edition: changing certain
.requirements for construction: and setting forth details relating
thereto. It was moved by Trustee Bailey and seconded by Trustee
Steinberg to accept Ordinance #11, series of 1970.
WOTE: "ayor Dobson YES
Trustee Anderson YES
Trustee Bailey YES
Trustee Steinberg YES
Trustee Donovan YES
T-tith no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:45 P.T4.
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