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MINUTES OF THE MEETING
VAIL BOARD OF TRUSTEES
10 JANUARY 19, 1970
Mayor Dobson called the meeting to order at 4:10 p.m.
in the Manor Vail Conference Room.
ROLL CALL found the following members present:
Mayor John Dobson
Trustee Johnny Kaemmer
Trustee Joseph Langmaid
Trustee Thomas Steinberg
Trustee C. E. Kindel
Trustee Richard Bailey
Trustee John Donovan
Others present: Blake Lynch, Larry Robinson,
Charles Bynum
I. CONSIDERATION OF REFUSE DISPOSAL PROBLEM. Deferred
until later in the meeting.
II. DISCUSSION OF BUILDING INSPECTION PROBLEMS. Deferred
until later in the meeting.
III. DISCUSSION OF BUS SITUATION. Blake Lynch reported
that the Town has terminated the San Juan Tours, Inc.,
shuttle bus contract, per mutual agreement between Clay
Simein of Vail Associates and Blake. He remarked that at
the end of the two -week Christmas period, the buses had
broken down constantly and the Town had expended many
hours attempting to repair them and recruit drivers --the
contract provided for a professional San Juan recruiter
to find suitable drivers. At the end of the Christmas-.
New Year period they were given a 15-day trial period --
during which they replaced the original buses with two
diesel buses, which were no better than the previous two
for operability. The Recreation District mechanic, spent
25 hours attempting to repair and start them. Hop Rudder
spent 36 hours coordinating drivers, repairs, etc. Under
the San Juan contract we were paying $160 per day for the
two buses. Upon termination of the contract on January 3.5,
we rented two school buses from Weiss, a Denver company,
for $150 each per month. Blake noted that after some dis-
cussion with Clay on thissituation, it was decided to
purchase buses for operation by the Town, with Vail
Associates splitting administrative and operating costs
50-50. Under Town operation the buses could run on more
flexible schedules --depending on demand, instead of the
flat eight -hour shifts prescribed by San Juan. Blake
said he and Clay planned to be in Denver on Thursday,
January 22, to scout around for the best new bus buys.
He added that he would like general Trustee approval to
make tentative commitment at that time if a suitable buy
were found. He noted that the two school buses were also
available :nor purchase at this time --both going for $2,500.
We have had an offer from Weiss for two new school buses,
painted blue, 32•-passenger, ski racks, for $7,000 each.
When queried, Citizen Bob Mayne stated that the presently
rented school buses do not reflect what he considered to
be the best image for Vail; but he added that, if the Town
were thinking of just the next year or two, they would be
a fairly practical buy, if they were painted- which would
cost approximately $300 each. The Town has been using his
bus for $30 per day when the San Juan buses were not
operating. Blake remarked that VRA has expressed a definite
need for summer bus service to transport conventioners to
activities at the new LionsPead area. The Board authorized
Blake to purchase the two presently rented buses for $2,500,
to be split with Vail Associates.
I. CONSIDER4TION OF REFUSE DISPOSAL PROBLEM. Mayor
Dobson introduced father 'Thomas Stone, -who briefed the
• Trustees on the status of Leo Duran's business problems.
Father Stone feels that the size of the business is en-
tirety beyond Leo's personal capabilities. He said he had
found two or three interested parties who wanted to buy
Leo out and put him to work on a salary and profit-sharing
basis. He noted that Leo had something to sell at this
time, but that it might not be equally as saleable in the
near future if service continues to deteriorate. Intan-
gible assets include Leo's established good will and his
PUC permit, which has certain negotiable value, per Father
Stone. Leo is opposed to taking in a partner. The par-
ties interested in buying Leo out want a guaranteed fran-
chise before doing so. When asked if Leo intended to dis-
continue service, Father Stone replied that he did not.
Father Stone suggested that the Trustees formally advise
Leo to sell his business while it was still valuable.
There was some discussion regarding Leo's PUC license;
rather Stone noted that it covered a 25-mile radius which
encompasses all of Vail Valley. Trustee Donovan commented
that there was a B Permit presently available for this
area for $2,000. Blake added that, in Terry Minger's
discussion with the PUC, they informed him that a temporary
permit could be issued almost immediately upon processing
of application and that no great delay would be involved.
Citizen Hans Weibel, one of the parties interested in
assuming the trash -hauling function for the area, remarked
that he couldn't afford to buy Leo out if the Town were
going to ultimately invite competitive bidding. He had
to know one way or the other before he could commit him-
self. Mr. Collister of Winter -Weiss Company in Denver
noted that, if an outsider came into Vail and bid on this
business, he would find that within three months' time he
was losing money. He thought any bidder should specify
his plan and method of operation; because performance is
the main issue he should state in detail how such an
operation would be managed. At this point Mr. Orville
Stoddard of Colorado State Department of Health (Engi-
neering Section) introduced himself and stressed that the
department is concerned that all refuse be collected
regularly. He had read Terry Minger's report and felt
it to be a good summary of the problem, from a public
health point of view. Trustee Kindel asked him if he
could be of assistance in encouraging the County to plow
the access road to the Sanitary Fill at Wolcott. He re-
plied that he would be happy to meet with them and make
it clear that the County should provide usable facilities
and make them accessible during all weather conditions.
Blake added that the County Commissioners claim they
maintain this rand. He noted that the company doing the
hauling should attempt to establish some rapport with the
Commissioners and the person in charge of the Sanitary
Fill facility before the Town steps in. Blake will inves-
tigate this further to ascertain if conditions are as bad
as reported. If that is the case, the Board will lodge a
strong complaint with the County Commissioners. Bob
Mayne, who was present to tender his proposal for service,
said that he wouldn't do so if Leo were taken advantage
of in the process. He proposed to buy Leo out and take
over service on a one-year, non -franchise, trial basis.
Father Stone offered to arrange negotiations between Leo
and any and all interested parties. He asked that Mrs.
Trujillo's statement on January 12 that the Crossroads
paid only $8.00 per month for trash hauling for the
entire complex be noted as highly erroneous --they pay
considerably more. Mayor Dobson concluded that all pro-
posals for assumption of the trash -hauling service will
be accepted in the Town Office until Close -of -Business,
Monday, January 26. All proposals will be given individual
consideration by the Board. They should include a state-
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II. DISCUSSION OF BUILDING INSPECTION PROBLEMS.
A. Permit for Skartvedt Residence (Claude Martin):
Deferred to a later meeting.
B. Variance Granted to Sink Condominium (LionsHead
Center: Charles Bynum, Building Official, briefed
the Board on the history of this construction.
Mershon-Gimeno, the contractor, inkially started
construction without obtaining a building permit.
They submitted partial plans when asked for same in
complete form. Mr. Bynum wrote them defining what
was necessary to comply with the Building Code.
When it was evident that they were proceeding and
not complying, he and the Town administration con-
sidered suspending construction; however, they did
not. The plans were transmitted to the International
Conference of Building Officials (ICBO) for plan
check; they found 30 discrepancies with the Building
Code. Mr. Charles Sink, the architect for the
structure, requested the Board of Building Appeals
to grant several variances after their physical
installation. A Board meeting was held (with Building
Official, Charles Bynum, unable to attend); and,
almost all the variances were granted. Mr. Bynum
feels that the Board had no authority to grant cer-
tain of these variances; he had informed them in a
memorandum previous to the meeting of the areas in
which they could and could not act. Mr. Bynum does
not feel inclined to issue a Certificate of Occupancy
for this building because it will definitely be a
non -conforming structure when completed. Blake
Lynch noted that the Town should have gone ahead with
suspension when it was being originally considered;
however, we didn't in a spirit of cooperation. He
added that Mr. Bynum was informed by the builder
that he would proceed with construction according
to plans regardless of anything the Building Offi-
cial might say. Blake suggested that after review
of the file, the Trustees send a strong letter
setting forth this history, voicing their displeasure,
and noting that in the future we will not grant
temporary construction permits to this builder. The
lower gondola terminal is nearing completion, and we
still don't have on file complete architectural and
structural plans. The developer, Vail Associates,
was assured by the architect, Charles Sink, that
the buiiding was in compliance with the Code. Some
discussion ensued among the Trustees regarding the
importance of stressing Building Code requirements
to the developer in his initial stage of development.
It was suggested that the Architectural Control
Committee, which sees the plans long before building
permit application is made, could strongly advise
the developer of these obligations. Blake will draft
a letter to Vail Associates for Trustee consideration
at their next meeting.
IV. DISCUSSION OF POTENTIAL VAIL ASSOCIATES SHOP PURCHASE.
Blake reviewed Clay Simon's most recent correspondence on
this subject. In his letter to the Board of January 19
he noted that the purchase price for the maintenance shop
bad been set at $90,000. Building costs at time of con-
struction were $77,000; the increase in price takes into
consideration today's replacement costs, the actual
appraised value of the building and a nominal cost of
land underneath the building. An appraisal requested of
Carver Architects by the Town concluded that the building
is worth $70,000. In his written comments to the Board,
Pete Burnett stressed that there is a pressing need for
storage space for the numerous items of equipment currently
owned by the various districts to prolong their life.
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There is no dry, heated repair area for the Town mechanic
at this time. He estimates that the proposed shop would
more than furnish ample storage for the present fleet of
equipment. An additional advantage is its proximity to
the Sewer Plant. Blake noted that it would also provide
storage and maintenance area for the buses which the Town
anticipates purchasing very shortly. Mr. Simon has asked
for a firm commitment for the Monday, January 26, Vail
Associates Board of Directors' meeting. There was some
discussion regarding the alternative methods for financing
such purchase.
V. CASINO VAIL LIQUOR VIOLATION_. With the Police Depart-
ment s Duty Officer's Notice of Violating in hand, Blake
asked the Trustees whether they wanted to suspend license
or hold a hearing on the violation, which occurred
January 18, 1970. Hearing was set for February 9, at
8:30 p.m. in the Manor Vail Conference Room. Mr. and Mrs.
Ranald MacDonald, dba Casino Partners Ltd.. --the licensees,
will be notified of the hearing via certified mail.
With no further, business to discuss, the meeting adjourned
at 6:30 p.m.
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