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— MINUTES OF THE MEETING
VAIL BOARD OF TRUSTEES
VAIL FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT
MARCH 12, 1970
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Dobson at
3:00 p.m. in the Conference Room at Gastof Gramshammer.
ROLL CALL:
(Trustees) Mayor John Dobson
Trustee John Donovan
Trustee Thomas Steinberg
Trustee Richard Bailey
Trustee C.E. Kindel
Trustee Johnny Kaemmer
Absent: Trustee Joseph Langmaid
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(Fire District) Chief Fran Bush
Asst. Chief Larry Wood
Capt. Mike Loken
Others present: Blake Lynch, Terry Minger,
Stan Bernstein, Dan Herrington
Harold Carver, Dale McCall,
George Olson
Blake opened the meeting with a statement regarding the
main purpose of the meeting: to discuss the method of
financing for the municipal complex, and to evaluate
Carver Architects' preliminary site layout.
T. MUNICIPAL SITE
Regarding the site, it was the general feeling that the
library shouldn't be located on this site. Although the
Municipal Building could temporarily house a book
collection for three or four years, the library would
ultimately be best located near the school. In
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reviewing his preliminary.layout, Mr. Carver stressed
that this presentation was basically to determine land
use and space requirements. He showed the Fire
Station as separate from the Main Municipal Building; it
has its own egress necessity for emergency vehicles.
A Post Office of 4,000 square feet was reflected,
with room for 1,500 sf expansion and truck access and
parking directly off the frontage road. The Municipal
Building should be designed to accommodate two
separate functions --one for,night-time activities and one
for normal daily functions. Mr. Carver questioned
the desirability of placing a building on the very narrow
east end of this property, which is the first area
in sight after leaving I-70 entering Vail. Carver shows
an overhead walkway, but suggests alternatives of a
push-button red light for pedestrians or a traffic light
on the main intersection. Mr. Carver then reviewed
Site Planning Scheme No. 1 (attached hereto as
Exhibit A). Dale McCall suggested some sort of drive-in
information center at the east end of this land. Chief
Bush suggested the Fire Station on the east end facing
south; this would be most desirable from an egress
standpoint. Trustee Donovan thought this location for the
very unsightly. Blake noted that alternate plans for
the site will be developed. Mayor Dobson suggested that
Fire Station
Carver coordinate with the Post Office architects to
determine the adequacy of our plans for them.
The Trustees concluded their discussion with unanimous
acceptance of the site and its basic functions.
II. FINANCING
The main consideration here was: do we build the
complex this summer under a non-profit corporation, or
do we wait two years until we go home rule and our
debt limit increases, at which time General Obligation
Bonds could be issued. Dan Herrington of Boettcher and
Co. in Denver explained the details of forming a
non-profit corporation. Revenue bonds would be
issued with a maturity schedule of 15 years, at which
time the facilities and improvements would revert to
the lessee. The 5% rise per year in construction costs
was presented as an advantage of building this summer:
The Trustees will take this matter under advisem nt and
hold a meeting at 8:00 p.m. on March 16 at whichra G
. decision will be reached.
With no further business to discuss the meeting
adjourned at 5:00 p.m.
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Ms:. suite Lynch Re; Vail Municipal Complex
Town. of Vail Site Scheme 1
Vail, Colorado 81657 �-
Dear Sir: March 12, 1970
Site Planning Scheme #1 has been completed and is analyzed as follows:
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CRITERIA OPTIM[u'M RATING ACTUAI RATING C01*311INTS
1. Proximity to 10 6 Considering the community to be the Lions head -Golf Course
Coaamni ty activity area- rhi n zi i-c i
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activities ---to—sidenµial consunity; to the business
area and to the ski lifts.
2. Auto accessibility
15
15
Auto access to the parking areas is directly convenient
from the access road, which inturn connects directly to
the main Vail traffic arteries.
3. Pedestrian
15
5
While clone enough to be accessible by foot frosii the main
accessibility
business district and Lions Head, the site is an island
not served by pedestrian ways. At some future time an
overhead walkway should be considered.
4. Ease of Utility
10
10
Major utilities are all within a reasonable distance of
connections
the site and pose no particular connection problems
5. Emergency Vehicle Egress
5
5
Fire Department has an excellent location for servicing
the entire valley and has immediate access to the access
roads, 1-70, and the Village streets.
6, Fire Protection
5
5
Installation of additional fire hydrants would be
necessary. Fire truck access to all sides of buildings
is posiible.
7. Visitor Accessibility
10
10
First time visitors to Vail, would find this site very
and convenience
accessible and easy to locate, it would provide ease of
parking and he would be able to secure information with
minimum. inconvenience.
8. Image Created
10
8
The visual image of this site would not need to complete
with the rather tight and congested portions of the
original village. it has reasonable open, green space
and could provide a suitable and impressive image for the
• city.
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9. Esthetic Capability 15
12
The aharacter of the buildings, while Rmdefined at thie
time, has great }potential in that this site, as an
island slightly separate from the existing villages
requires an architectural distinction of its own.
The general topography also lends itself to building
placement of Variety and interest:.
10. Orientation to Iliad, 10
6
Sur orientation ie excellent with all major entrances
snow and Leather
facing south and wlital parking areas also in the sun.
The site would prob-ably experience some greater wind
exposure since it is la.,_gly uzrprctecLed on any side.
U. Maintenance of 5
5
These are all on soul:% ex-posures and basically have a
drives and walks
grade that would allow fairly easy removal of snow
tm,rard the access road.
Fv. Views 5
5
Some officers and facilities may require the view of
toe sl i hills. Eh-Posure fo the view is possible for
bot€s. the City Ball. and Library. The site is high
enough to Moe good views up and down the valley.
13. Topography and 15
15
The land slopes down from the north and provides
drainage
excellent natural drainage to the south � always in
the aura. The topography is not so steeps however, as to
provide difficult drainage situations around the
building. The site is above the flood plane.. Funoff
from the hills on the north would be intercepted by
the highway before reaching the site.
14. Size and shape 25
10
The land is ;relatively lonS and narrow and there is
not an variety of solutions possible for building plaeevM
went The requirements of the Program could be met.
however, except that the future parking probably would be
limited to 130 rather than the expected 150.
Expansion of facilities would be scmewrhat limited. If
future development of the valley were i=ensely increased
beyond expectation, other means for expansion might
need to take place —such as a branch library, police
s �d r'.re sLb;� �4;..ane, r,e d_��?;,. 1 0 ±cl ^a ,. office Outiers. etc.,
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15. Sufi, Soil Conditions 5
5
NO information on existing test holes, if any, has been
made available. No overwhelming difficulties would be
expected, 'however, either in terms of rock, ,rater or
expansiveness.
116. Costs of Site 25
25
Development costs are regarded as comparatively
Development
inexpensive. The major items would include grading
to level out the bumps, mmiales and arises and to
provide a correct drainage pattern.
Cuts and fibs could be balanced. Utility casts would
be nominal, asphalt costs ordinary and landscaping
capable. of execution in stages.
Acquisition costs are negligible.
17. Notse Considerations 5
5
Highway noise ulll be apparent particularly to
quiet meetings in the Council room.
Totals 1.90
154
Conclusions
is not a perfect site - nor is it especially desirable from several standpoints;'naumely, those of long
range expansion, shape, noise and pedestrian accessibility. It does possess, however, many fins; attributes
capable of sustaining the government of Vail for decades to come.
!t must be realized that Vail Village was not conceived as a vide open complex where the buildings and
facilities would have unlimited room and open space. It is built on the premise that each square of ground
is prec'otio and to be used with discrimination. Consequently, nearly every building built in Vail has
had to compromise its desire for land quantity and shape in order to get built at all.
It is n;; , U a necessity for the Vail City Government to be able to cubsist on a minimum land area.
It is therefor the opinion of this office that this parcel of land is adequate for the use intended and
could provide efficient, comfortable, and esthetic space for the main offices of City Administration,
Library, Post Office and Fire and Police Departments.
It is further suggested, that the possibility of the Library being somewhere else be considered.. .:here is
no overwhelming need for it to be next to City Hall. Quite the opposite is true in the thinking of Library
Planners who prefer to see libraries adjacent to major shopping areas.
Y s very ,�ru `
Harold R. Carver, AIA
Architect
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