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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1971-08-23 Town Council MinutesMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING BOARD OF TRUSTEES AUGUST 23, 1971 The regular meeting of the Board of Trustees of the Town of Vail was held, pursuant to call and notice, at the hour of 7:30 p.m. on Monday, August 23, 1971, at the Vail Elementary School. The following trustees, constituting a quorum, were pre- sent: Mayor John Dobson Trustee Richard Bailey Trustee John Donovan Trustee Dr. Thomas Steinberg Trustee Gerry White Also present were Terrell Minger, Town Manager; Larry Robinson, Town Attorney; and Stanley Bernstein, Finance Director. The meeting was called to order by Mayor Dobson. THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES CONVENED AS THE LOCAL LIQUOR LICENSING AUTHORITY Mayor Dobson convened the Board of Trustees as the Local Liquor Licensing Authority to consider the application of Nottingham - Rumford Enterprises for a beer, wine, and spirituous liquor license; and the application of Golden Peak Restaurants, Inc. for a beer, wine and spirituous liquor license. Nottingham -Rumford Enterprises - Mayor Dobson asked the Town Clerk, Terrell Minger, if all required information and fees had been supplied and paid by the applicant. Mr. Minger stated that all necessary documents had been filed and all fees paid. The Mayor then asked the Town Attorney, Larry Robinson if he had reviewed the application and if it is properly filled out in compliance with the Colorado Statutes. Mr. Robinson then stated that all documents have been turned in and further stated that the applicant is applying as a partnership. He then referred the plans for the interior layout and location to the Board. The Mayor then asked the Board of Trustees if they had reviewed the application and if they had questions concerning the statements made thereon. The Board had questions concerning the management and operation of the bar and restaurant. The applicant was asked if they propose to operate the bar and restaurant themselves or whether there will be a lessee, Mr. Stewart Brown, Attorney for the applicant, stated that the partnership plans to operate under a management agreement with a professional organization. The Mayor asked the Police Chief to read the findings for the record. As the Police Chief was not present, the Town Attorney answered that the report from the Federal Bureau of Investigation had not been received but these are local people of good character and at such time the report arrives, then it will be brought up if there is a problem. The Mayor then asked the Town Clerk if any petitions or letters were received, either in favor of or against the application and, if so, asked that they be read and attached to the record. A petition in favor of granting the subject license, signed by 150 persons, was presented by Mr. Brown which was marked Exhibit "A". The Town Clerk read a letter from the Kiandra Lodge endorsing the granting of the license, which letter was labeled Exhibit "B". The Mayor then stated that the purpose of the hearing is to comply with the requirements of Colorado Revised Statute 1963, 75-2-42 (2) which he then read. The public hearing was then declared open by the Mayor. The Mayor asked if there were any parties present that cared to speak for or against the application. Those who were for the application were asked to stand and give their name and address to the reporter. Mr. Brown, attorney for the appli- cant stated that he would call these people during the presentation of his case. The Mayor asked those who were against the application to stand and give their name and address to the reporter. Mr. Pepi Gramshammer, Vail, Colorado requested that a letter against the JW granting of the license, addressed to the Town of Vail, be read at this time. The letter was read by the Town Clerk and labeled Exhibit �,. Mr. Brown then began the presentation of his clients' case to tie Local Liquor Licensing Authority. Mr. Brown requested that the Minutes of the Regular Meeting Board of Trustees August 23, 1971 Page 2 statistical data to be presented be admitted as evidence for both the application of Nottingham -Rumford Enterprises and for Golden Peak Restaurants, Inc. The Town Attorney and Larry Wright, attorney for Golden Peak Restaurants, Inc. both accepted the information as evidence. Mr. Brown stated that witnesses will be used to authenti- cate the evidence for use in both cases. Mr. Brown then made a motion that any member of the Licensing Authority who has a proprie- tary interest in the liquor license disqualify himself. Mr. Donovan then refused to disqualify himself and stated that he would do so at the time of voting. Certain documents contained in papers which have been admitted in previous hearings were asked to be admitted by administrative notice; specifically, Exhibit "C". Mr. Brown then stated that we must establish the credibility of the documents that have not been admitted before. The Board then pointed out that the Harmon -O'Donnell study may have little veracity at this time and the report is several years old. Mr. Robinson pointed out that we should not admit this report as it is not present and there are certain people who are not familiar with this report. Mayor Dobson then stated that we will weigh the veracity and pertinency of the document as we make our decision. Exhibit ''D" was then presented by Mr. Brown which is an eight year comparison of skier days compiled by Vail Associates. This document was previously admitted except .for the 1970 and 1971 figures. A request was made that this Exhibit be admitted by administrative notice with the 1970 and 1971 figures to be documented by testimony. Exhibit F was presented by Mr. Brown which is a summary of sales tax and assessed valuation. Mr. Brown asked that this document in its entirety be admitted by administra- tive notice because the figures are part of the Town records. The following witnesses were then sworn in by the Town Clerk: Mr. F. Blake Lynch, Mr. Maurice M. Nottingham, Mr. Robert G. Howlett and Mrs. Nancy Nottingham. Mr. Lynch was then called to the stand by Mr. Brown and presented with Exhibit 'A" and asked to identify the document con- sisting of two pages. This Exhibit is an analysis of beds added to the Vail community since November 1969 and restaurant and bar seats added since November 1969. Mr. Lynch stated that he made the compila- tion and stated that there were some assumptions made from building plans in some cases; namely, Edelweiss, Scorpio, and Lions Mane. The assumption was also made that there were two beds per bedroom. All of the bed in lodges and condominiums now under construction were also counted in the document. Mr. Larry Wright then stated that Mr. Jerry Muth would document the skier day analysis. Mr. Jerry Muth was then sworn in and presented with Exhibit "E" entitled Vail Associates Skier Days Eight Year Comparison. Mr. Muth identified the document and stated that figures were true to the best of his knowledge. Another section of Exhibit "E", Vail Associates Skier Day Analysis 1970-1971, was then presented to Mr. Muth and he stated that he could identify the document and the figures were compiled under his supervision and are true to the best of his knowledge. Mr. Nottingham was then called to the stand to identify Exhibit "G" which is a map of the village showing locations of liquor licenses already issued. Mr. Nottingham stated that the map correctly identi- fied these locations. Mr. Brown then moved that all exhibits which had been presented thus far be admitted as evidence; that is, Exhibits "A" through "G". Mrs. Nottingham was then called to the stand. She stated that she is one of the applicants and has per- sonally prepared and helped to circulate the petition which contains six pages. She was then asked if she talked to each of the persons who signed the petitions and was asked to describe the procedure used in obtaining signatures. Mrs. Nottingham stated affirmative to the question and said that each person who was asked to sign the petition was told that the Talisman was seeking a liquor license and asked to sign the petition on their behalf. She further stated that each person who signed the petition had read and understood its contents. Mr. Nottingham was again called to the stand and asked if he was a partner in Nottingham -Rumford Enterprises. He answered in the affirmative and further stated that his occupation is as general manager of the Talisman Lodge. He then outlined the business as authorized by the State of Colorado. Nottingham -Rumford 9 Associates Minutes of the Regular Meeting Board of Trustees August 23, 1971 Page 3 is made up of four general partners, Mr. and Mrs. Nottingham and Mr. and Mrs. Rumford. There are approximately 34 other limited partners. A sub -partnership agreement was signed by the partnership authorizing the principals to act in behalf of the partnership to facilitate the application for the liquor license. The lease is between general partners and limited partners and is a valid lease. Premises being leased are located in the Talisman Lodge and a floor plan of the lower floor and floor plan showing restaurant arrange- ment have been signed by the partners. The restaurant plan contains everything pertinent except chair and table arrangement. It was then moved that the lease and floor plan drawings be admitted as evidence. Mr. Robinson then examined the lease agreement and stated that the lease is incomplete as to period of time and amount of rental. Mr. Brown moved for a recess and it was granted. The meeting was then reconvened by Mayor Dobson. Mr. Brown moved that the lease, now executed by the limited partnership be admitted as evidence. The lease was admitted and marked Exhibit 11G11. The Board then stated that they had some questions for Mr. Nottingham. Mr. Borwn asked Mr. Nottingham to tell the Board a little about his partner, Mr. Rumford. He stated that Mr. Rumford is a long-time friend and that they got together on the Talisman in 1968. They had known each other at University of Colorado and now Mr. Rumford is a teacher in the math department at Greeley. Mr. Rumford has been very active in the administration of the Talisman. Mr. Rumford was then in- troduced to the Board by Mr. Nottingham. He further stated that neither of the partners have any restaurant experience. They first considered the plan of leasing the space to an experienced operator. They tried for about six months to find a lessee who would improve space but this was unsuccessful due to the large amount of capital investment necessary on the part of the lessee. Mr. Nottingham was then asked what qualifications they were requiring of the person to be hired as a manager. He stated that the manager must have the experience we (Nottingham and Rumford) do not have but he will be under our general management. He must be someone who has been a restaurant operator and the partnership will insist that they have such a person to operate the restaurant and bar. He stated that they wish to go into operation this winter if they are able to find management. Mr. Brown then questioned Mr. Nottingham about why the license was applied for before the management question was settled. Mr. Nottingham stated that they had to apply for their liquor license before the manager was found because the ground work must be set before the ski season. Mr. Nottingham and Mr. Rumford had not been in the lodge business before the Talisman just as they have not been Is in the restaurant business, but they feel they will be successful with a restaurant manager and a lodge manager under their general supervision. The Board then wanted to know about the proposed decor of the restaurant and bar. The present lodge is designed as Scottish - English with dark wood interiors. They are thinking in terms of red carpeting and dividing the bar from the dining area. They are not sure yet what items will be on the menu but it will be moderately priced which will cater to families with children. They plan to allow the manager to work out the details. Mr. Brown then questioned Mr. Nottingham about the size of the Talisman and the proposed res- taurant and bar facility. Mr. Nottingham stated that there are 62 lodge rooms and 16 condominium units. They estimate their guest capacity at 200 minimum. Mr. Nottingham was then asked to define the Talisman's neighborhood as required by the State Liquor Code. Mr. M ttingham stated that the proposed neighborhood will be the whole Gore Valley and potential visitors to the Valley. He further stated that the proposed facility is necessary due to overcrowding last winter and that he is aware of other facilities in Vail. Visitors staying at the Talisman stated that they could not get into specified restaurants. He feels the Town needs the proposed space to do away with the present shortage. This is also needed to serve his own guests and banquet facilities. Mr. Nottingham feels there is a need for convenient, on -site restaurant and full service hotel as a convenience to his guests. Dr. Steinberg then asked how many meals per day the restaurant proposes to serve. Mr. Nottingham stated that they are planning to serve breakfast. They currently Minutes of the Regular Meeting Board of Trustees August 23, 1971 Page 4 serve a continental breakfast to approximately 60 guests per day and with the new rooms, this will increase to approximately 100 per day. Mayor Dobson then asked Mr. Nottingham to relate the events pre- cipitating the hearing. Mr. Nottingham stated that the restaurant was planned in 1969 when the building was planned. They started out with the idea of leasing until very recently. They deferred making application for the license pending lease operations. They then made application when it appeared there was to be no lessee. They also thought that there would be a manager by the time the hearing was held. He further stated that the restaurant facilities are presently under construction at this time and it is approximately 40% complete and is scheduled for completion in mid -November. They have approxi- mately $100,000 invested in the restaurant space alone. It would cost the partnership $12,000 to $18,000 per year to have the facility standing empty, which would be a considerable loss to the partnership. As it became clear that they were not going to find a lessee, they made a change in plans to get into the restaurant business them- selves and apply for the liquor license, as they were put under pressure by the circumstances. Mayor Dobson then asked how all of this can be related to the needs of the neighborhood because this is the question that the Board must answer. He further stated that economic hardship is not a matter that is relevant to the Board but • economic relationships are necessary to consider. Mr. Donovan then asked if the liquor license is necessary for the restaurant to be successful. Mr. Nottingham stated that they would not operate without a liquor license, and that the space now proposed would not be im- proved. Mr. Donovan then pointed out that the Board has 30 days to decide and it will take some time to get this much furniture and it is possible the Talisman will miss the Christmas season even if the license is granted. Mayor Dobson then asked if they planned to have entertainment. Mr. Nottingham stated that if they have any it will be very quiet, unarnplified music and under no circumstances will they have a night club. Mr. Robert Gordon Howlett, manager of the Talisman since last October, was then called to the stand. Mr. How- lett stated that he has come into contact with visitors in Vail and has talked about the availability of restaurants and bars. His ex- perience has been that during the peak season many visitors have asked him where to have dinner and he has called the Blue Cow and was told that they were full but could take guests after 9:00. He stated that he also recommended that guests go to the Ore House between 7:00 and 7:30. Guests returned and told him that there was a waiting list of one and one-half hours to get food service. We can assume that the St. Moritz has the same situation since they • take reservations and are usually filled up. These are very common instances. This is a cro.nic problem. Mr. Brown then asked the following question of Mr. Howlett: based upon observations, do you believe that there is a need for additional facilities during the ski season? Mr. Howlett stated that he feels the present facilities available are inadequate to meet the demands of the people during ski season and restaurants can't handle people during peak times based on actual complaints. They are looking for convention type trade in the summer and it is essential that they have a restaurant to handle this convention business. Mr. Robert T. Lazier was then called to the stand and sworn in. He stated that he had heard Mr. Howlett's testimony and has found the same type of complaints from his guests, He has also had the same problems himself even though he knows the owners personally. He has had this experience himself at the Clock Tower, St. Moritz, Red Lion and LaCave. This has happened on more than one occasion. It has been a frequent occurrence. Mr. Lazier feels this is a problem because there is a general feeling of not being able to plan an evening out because they can't eat at the time they choose. It is his opinion that restaurant facilities are not adequate to serve the neighborhood during peak season and that additional restaurant facilities would improve cir- cumstances. Mr. Lazier feels there is room for more restaurants in • Vail due to the needs of the neighborhood. The applicant completed his testimony and rested his case. Mayor Dobson asked if there were further questions. Mr. White then wanted to know if Mr. Brown had Minutes of the REgular Meeting Board of Trustees August 23, 1971 Page 5 talked with Mr. Beardsley in the last three years and he stated that he had not. Mr. White pointed out that Mr. Beardsley could have changed his mind on the formula by now. Mr. Pepi Gramshammer then wanted to know if the liquor survey had been completed. The Board stated that a preliminary copy had been received, but due to some inaccurate information must be redone before the final copy will be presented. This survey will be made available as soon as possible. Mayor Dobson then asked for any opposition and there was none presented. Mr. Brown then made his closing statement. Ex- hibits "A" through "G" draw attention of the Board to increase in beds since 1969 of 2,071 beds. Restaurant and bar seats increased by 861 which includes the 325 seats in the Hungry Skier Cafeteria which he feels should not be included for our purposes here. He then summarized the total beds and restaurant seats constructed in Vail since its conception. There are a total of 3,016 lodge beds, 4,667 condominium beds and 3,022 restaurant and bar seats. He feels the tabulation is reliable within narrow limits. The purpose of their investigation into the restaurant and bar seats and beds is to feed information into the original projection of Harmon, O'Donnell and Henninger study which has been the only comparison of restau- rant seats in respect to beds. He doesn't feel that this kind of study becomes obsolete over a period of three years and it has held true during these years. Beardsley's projections for beds and bar seats was proper and has worked out almost exactly. Exhibit "C" brings the projections up to date with 3,016 lodge beds, and 4,767 condominium beds for a total meal requirement of 7,065 meals per day. If you apply the formula of 2.07 restaurant seats per bed, the requirement for restaurant seats based on the formula would be 3,365 and we now have a total of 3,022 restaurant seats in Vail, which is 343 less than the projection called for. This would permit the inference that we need 343 more restaurant seats. Mr. Brown then summarized skier day attendance which continues to gain at about 25% per year. Exhibit "E" shows that peak period is period over Thanksgiving, Christmas and Easter and the month of March and that more than 660 of total skiers are here during these peak times. Let us not overlook that peak time affects 660 of visitors to Vail. This peak period has always supported issuance of new liquor licenses in Vail. Mr. Brown then pointed out that the business structure of the Talisman (the sub -partnership) is a proper and expedient device and about two-thirds of liquor license applicants use exactly the same device. The lease to the partnership is all that the law re- quires for proof of possession of the premises. The installation of the facility must be complete according to the Liquor Code but it allows the inspector to come instead of these being in place before the license is issued. If we are not certain about the type of furniture, this should not be held as a point of law. The Board should put aside their appraisal on this score in view of the fact that the State will not grant the license until installation is in place. He feels that the needs of the neighborhood will be met by this facility due to convenience of restaurant to visitors. Mr. Brown pointed out that if the Board denies the license, the appli- cant is denied for a period of two years. If the Board wants more information, they can defer the decision and this will not exclude the applicant from reapplying as soon as he wants. The law does not require such a showing and applicant must only be responsible for what he wants to do. Mr. Nottingham and Mr. Rumford will make up for their own deficient experience by hiring a manager. They are by law accepting the responsibility and will delegate management authority to a hired manager who will be the kind of man who will be a good manager, Mayor Dobson then asked if there were any more comments. Mr. Frank Dahl of Meadow Mountain stated that during his experience at Meadow Mountain, people asked him for a place to eat in Vail. Many people stay outside the area and they want to eat here when they finish skiing. Mr. Dahl felt that 200 or 300 more seats in this community in the Winter would not hurt anyones' business. He feels that better service due to increased facilities will cause people to leave here much happier because they didn't have to drive 100 miles to eat. We must also consider the people who come here from other areas such as Denver who don't stay here -- from this standpoint the bed count doesn't mean that much. Mr. Pepi Gramshammer then asked how many lodge rooms we have in Vail. Mr. Brown stated that we have added 166 lodge beds since November 1969. Minutes of the Regular Meeting Board of Trustees August 23, 1 9 7 1 Page 6 48 Mayor Dobson closed the public hearing. Mayor Dobson then stated that a decision of the Local Liquor Licensing Authority, approving or denying the application shall be in writing within 30 days after the date of the public hearing, and that a copy of such decision shall be sent by certified mail to the applicant at the address as shown in the application. The Mayor then thanked the applicants and the public for their cooperation and participation in the proceeding. Golden Peak Restaurants, Inc. - Mayor Dobson asked the Town Clerk, Terrell Minger, if all required information and fees had been supplied and paid by the applicant. Mr. Minger stated that all necessary documents had been filed and all fees paid. The Mayor then asked the Town Attorney, Larry Robinson if he had reviewed the application and if it is properly filled out in complaince with the Colorado Statutes. Mr. Robinson then stated that all documents have been turned in and further stated that the applicant is applying as a corporation. The Mayor then asked the Board of Trustees to review the application and to state their questions about the application. There were no questions. The Mayor then asked the Police Chief if he conducted an investigation of the applicants and of the premises •and has submitted his findings in writing to the Town Clerk and Board. As the Police Chief was not present, Mr. Robinson stated that no report has been received from the Federal Bureau of Investigation but all other requirements have been received. The Mayor then asked the Town Clerk if any petitions or letters have been received, either in favor of or against the application and if so, asked that they be read and attached to the record. A letter admitted as evidence and marked Exhibit "G" in the Nottingham -Rumford application was admitted as a part of Golden Peak Restaurants case. The Mayor stated that the purpose of the hearing is to comply with the requirements of Colorado Revised Statute 1963, 75-2-72 (2) which he had read in the prior case. The public hearing was then declared open by the Mayor. The Mayor then asked for persons for or against the application to speak. Larry Wright, attorney for Golden Peak Restaurants, Inc., was then asked if he had anything to present in support of the application. Mr. Wright then called the following witnesses to be sworn in: Messrs. Jerry Muth, Rod Slifer, Jerry Whittaker, Robert Nott, Robert Lazier, James Cunningham and Dick Butterworth. Mr. Wright then asked that all Exhibits "A" through "G" admitted in the Nottingham -Rumford case be admitted in this case by administrative notice and this was done and w i 11 be marked Exhibit "A" . Mr. Muth was then called to the stand and asked to identify four photographs of the Golden Peak Facility. Mr. Muth stated that he was familiar with the facility and that it is about 65 - 70% complete and the proposed restaurant facility w i 11 be Golden Peak Restaurants, Inc. which w i 11 lease the facility from Vail Associates. The business management of the operation will be done by Vail Food Service, Inc. under a management agreement. All three mountain restaurants operate under this same plan. Lease between Golden Peak Restaurants, Inc. and Vail Restaurants, Inc. was identified by Mr. Muth and labeled Exhibit "F". The facility contains 2,000 square feet of restaurant plus 800 square feet of kitchen space. Mr. Muth stated that he has compiled skier day in- formation and growth which Mr. Muth then summarized. This was marked Exhibit "G", He further stated that Golden Peak is advertised as a ski school and he has had many complaints from parties because there are no restaurants or bars in the Golden Peak neighborhood. There are approximately 430 students per day and the need for a restaurant and bar here is obvious. There is sufficient demand by the skier, ski school, those using lift #6 and also the ski club. There is also a demand in the Summer due to the tennis activities at Gold Peak. Until Lord Gore Club opened there was no other outlet in the east part of Town. Mr. Donovan then asked what the proposed hours of the facility would be. Mr. Muth answered that it would probably be open approximately the same hours that the lifts are open and would probably not serve dinner, but would like to keep the option open so that they could serve dinner at some future date. They contemplate the menu as one in the low price range and want to offer breakfast for staff and ski school and the ski club. They would offer cafeteria type lunches and propose to have the bar open from 11:00 to 7:00. They would offer snak type meals in connection with the bar. If they do decide to serve dinner Minutes of the Regular Meeting Board of Trustees August 23, 1971 Page 7 prices will be in the $1.50 to $3.00 range. Mr. Donovan then asked if they felt it was imperative to operate with a liquor license. Mr. Muth answered yes and also stated that they would operate even without a liquor license. Mr. Whittaker was then called to the stand and asked to identify the lease before the Board between Golden Peak Restaurants, Inc. and Vail Food Services, Inc. Mr, Whittaker identified the lease and further stated that Vail Food Services, Inc. will be handling food service under their directorship, including all hiring, firing, etc. for the entire operation. The lease was labeled Exhibit "H". Mr. Whittaker stated that he feels there is a need for this type of facility because there are no other facilities of this type in the area to serve the public. He stated that the operation will be cafeteria style meals between 7:00 a.m. and 7:00 p,m. The restaurant capacity is between 120 and 140 and the bar capacity is approximately 60. Mr. Robert Nott was then called to the stand and asked if he is familiar with the Gold Peak area. He stated that Vail Associates, Inc. owns property that is undeveloped of 10.7 acres that lies east of Gold Peak Restaurant which is open area zoned HDMF which will be developed by Vail Associates or sold for develop- ment. He feels that there is potential for many people in the area due to the hockey field, six tennis courts and three additional ones •being built, and the ski school in the winter. He would be in favor of another liquor outlet for the region, both as a resident of the area and Vice President of Real Estate for Vail Associates. Mr. Rod Slifer was then called to the stand as a character reference for the applicants. He stated that the applicants are good people and would operate a facility in a good manner. Mr. Wright then inquired what he felt the potential growth would be. Mr. Slifer stated that there would be skier demand in winter and summer activity is increasing. He feels strongly that the facility would offer service and would help the Recreation District in summer as well as skiers in the winter. He would have no objection to this type of facility in the Gold Peak area. Mr. Robert Lazier was then called to the stand as a resident of the area. He stated that the Tivoli Lodge is about one block from the proposed restaurant which he feels would be very convenient for his guests and would fill a need that now exists. Mr. Lazier would not have any objections in the neighborhood considering the hours that the facility is proposing. Mr. James Cunningham was then called to the stand and stated that the Valhalla, which he owns, is about one and one-fourth blocks from Gold Peak. He feels there are several needs that this facility would satisfy. The Valhalla is a family lodge and there are two demands which would be filled --low cost food, light lunch and breakfast. He would not object except if it were a night club. He feels it would be helpful in getting people to flow through the Village and not just in the core area. He personally knows two of the three applicants and feels they are of good character. The two applicants he knows have lived at Ptarmigan Townhouses which he owns. Mr. Dick Butterworth was then called to the stand. He feels there is a need in the area for this type of a facility because of the tennis courts and the three courts now being constructed since we will probably have twice as many people next Summer. He feels there is a tremendous need for a place for people to eat while waiting for courts and to have a place for a drink after they play tennis. This could help make Vail's tennis club a very high class type place. He would also have no objections to the facility as a resident of the area. The Mayor then asked if there are opponents of the license. There were none. Mayor Dobson then asked if the attorney for Gold Peak Restaurants, Inc. would like to make a closing statement. Mr. Wright then gave the following closing statement. We have tried to show that in that part of Town there is a need and a particular need due to skiers, golf and tennis are growing. The drawing power of the neighborhood is very great. There is a unique need and people in the neighborhood do not have any objections to it. He would like for the Board to take all of this into consideration. L_J Minutes of the Regular Meeting Board of Trustees August 23, 1971 Page 8 CONVENED AS BOARD OF TRUSTEES Mr. Terry Brennan asked to come before the Board to present his ideas for a walking sign. His proposed sign would be 8" x 2411 and would be available for advertising from any type of advertising. He proposes to work six days per week for approximately six hours per day. He had previously presented the sign to the Sign Review Committee and had been turned down. Mr. Robinson stated he feels that this type of sign might be against Ordinance dealing with selling and solicitation. The sign was then opposed by Mayor Dobson and Mr. White. Mr. Bailey and Mr. Steinberg had no adverse feelings about the sign. Mr. Bailey did, however, point out that every sign put on the walking board would have to be submitted to the Sign Review Committee and this would place a burden on them if the signs changed regularly. Mr. Donovan stated that the same type of thing was done last Summer with a Donkey. If we cauld control the number of this type of sign, he would be in favor of it, but feels that there could be no more than one in town, Mayor Dobson suggested that the Board defer making a decision on this sign until the next meeting, which the Board approved. Ordinance Number 12, Series of 1971 was presented for second reading. Mr. Donovan moved that we adopt this ordinance to attain better attendance at the Town Meetings. The motion was seconded by Mr. White. There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 11:15 p.m. dw 0 ,vwgu �n C1er}d