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Home My WebLink About1971-09-16 Town Council Minutes• 0- 0 MINUTES SPECIAL MEETING BOARD OF TRUSTEES/LOCAL LIQUOR LICENSING AUTHORITY SEPTEMBER 16, 1971 A special meeting of the Board of Trustees of the Town of Vaii and the Local Liquor Licensing Authority of the Town of Vail, was held, pursuant to call and notice at the hour of 9:30 a.m., Thursday, September 16, 1971, in the RamsHorn, Vai I, Colorado. The following trustees, constituting a quorum, were present: Mayor John Dobson Trustee John Donovan Trustee Gerry White Trustee Tod Anderson Trustee Dr. Thomas Steinberg Also present were: Terrell J. Minger, Town Manager Larry Robinson, Town Attornev Mayor Dobson called the meeting as the Local Liquor Licensing Au of Rumford -Nottingham and Golden three-way I icenses. o order, and the Board convened hority to consider applications Peak Restaurants, Inc., for The application for a three-wav icense at Golden Peak was dis- cussed first, and it was wonders by Trustee Anderson if the Golden Peak really needed a three-way license. Terry Minger said he thought there was a definite need here because of a special recreation neighborhood. There are skier places to drink at both gondolas, and he feels there should be one at Golden Peak to serve winter skiers and summer tennis r e c r e a t i o n i s t s as well. But, it was said, when a license is issued at Golden Peak, the people will not go to other establishments in Town; however, it is still needed. People need to be able to come in from a ski lesson and have a sandwich and a drink. Vail Food Services, inc., would be operating the restaurant. Summer golf and tennis wouid probably justify such a facility alone. Trustee Donovan felt they should operate in the summer but not in the winter. The following reasons for granting a license were brought up: 1 ) Serves a recreation need which isn't being fulfilled; 2) Completes a recreation complex with quality food service; 3) Serves a neigh- borhood which is not now being served; 4) Serves a special res- taurant need; and 5) Serves a neighborhood convenience need. Trustee Anderson stated that the liquor study does not indicate that there is a need for a license there. He also pointed out that Manor Vail's bar will be open at that time, which it hadn't been last year. Robinson then said that it wouldn't be open during the day. Another argument was that people do not go over to Manor Vail while waiting for a tennis court. Minger then said that we are adding three new tennis courts which will increase the need for a restaurant -liquor facility in that area, which he described as an increasingly popular area -- a unique people generator. Mayor Dobson asked if there were any more questions or discussion, and Trustee Donovan pointed out that Vail Associates had said that the facility would be turned over to teenagers at night. I t was also stated that Vail needs a place that serves less expensive meals -- sandwiches etc. -- which is what the plans are for Golden Peak. I t will also be used for ski school parties, banquets, tennis programs, and conventions. 1 t is not a noise type situation and will not create that kind of problem. Minger felt there is very good argument for this kind of unique neighborhood, as it is a diversified recreational complex, with ice skating nearby. Robinson then said that perhaps the term "the neighborhood" should not be used, as it has in the past to define an entire community. This facility would serve a rather special clientele. In terms of the people in "the neighborhood", we could segment our neighbor- hood -- a special group of people who aren't being served. Mayor Dobson then asked for a vote, which was as follows: Trustee White motioned for the granting of this license, Trustee Steinberg seconded, and John Dobson also voted in favor of this license. Trus- tee Anderson voted against this license, and Trustee Donovan ab- stained from voting as he is both a Vail Associates employee and a bar owner. Golden Peak Restaurants, Inc., was granted their three-way liquor license. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * x * In considering the application for the Talisman (Nottingham -Rumford) it was felt strongly by the Board that Mauri Nottingham had not sup- plied enough information. They didn't know who was going to manage the restaurant or what type of facility it would be. The Board generally concluded that the applicant had not made a prima facie case in support of its application at the public hearing, and that the presentation was somewhat weak and ineffective; however, the Board felt that a two-year waiting period before the applicant could re - apply was somewhat severe and as a result of this situation, a- greed to allow the applicant to submit additional information. Mr. Minger was instructed to contact the applicants and ask him to sub- mit any additional information they wished to provide which would better inform the Board of the type of restaurant facility proposed by the applicant. Some discussion about the liquor license survey made by THK and Associates, Inc., led to requesting the Town Office to order 50 copies to sell at cost of printing, or about $10 each. The Board then convened as the Board of Trustees. Minger said that the Vail Elementary School had asked if they could use a portion of the Municipal Complex for holding school for the 5 t h and 6th grade classes. He had given them tentative approval. They would pay us $50 a month, which would take care of cleaning and'Iights. The Board was unanimous in its approval for letting the 5th and 6th graders use the council room. Minger then said that he had been working with some people in p an- ning the new library, and it should be open by January I. He then stated that a dean from Colorado University wants to be tied in with the Symposium. They may even go so far as to have a bu (d- ing up here for their studies etc. Terry Minger then reported that Vail Associates would like us to share 50-50 in the costs of operating the LionsHead busses this year, and next year the Town would have a 75 percent share, or $20,000. Trustee Donovan made a motion that we not do this, Trus- tee White seconded, and the vote was unanimous that the Town not share in this cost, but rather donate the same amount of money that we did last year. When the bus travels in a large enough radius to make it a real service to all the people, the Town will then think of financing it_ • -2- Minger has plans to hire an administrative assistant who would do research work and help him on projects. He stressed the fact that this person would not be hired for the purpose of replacing him, but rather as a research assistant. She has a masters degree in city management and would start at $700-$750 per month. This idea met with the Board's approval. Then Minger said that Dick Peterson had written him a letter asking him to accompany him on a tour of the ski resorts and new ski towns in Europe, sponsored by the Rocky Mountain Ski Area Operators As- sociation, Inc. The tour would cost approximately $775 total and would include eleven countries in fourteen days. The Board approved this tour, and said that since Minger would not be taking his wife, it would not have t o be considered as vacation time. The Town has been put in the position of paying for the banquet held at WdVai i for the Cambodians, as the VRA did not have enough money to pay for it. I t was decided that in the future the Town should budget for this type of thing in a V.I.P. fund, but that we should also adopt some kind of standard operating procedure re- garding this so that we do not get put into this position again. There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 12;30 p.m. nn -3- Tow C 1 rk