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REGULAR MEETING
TOWN COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF VAIL
OCTOBER 17, 1972
A regular meeting of the Town Council of the Town of Vail was convened at
7:45 p.m., October 17, 1972, in the Council Room of the Vail Municipal
Building.
Mayor John A. Dobson and the following Councilmen were present:
Richard Bailey
John Donovan
Joseph Langmaid
Josef Staufer
Tom Steinberg
Also present were:
Terrell Minger, Town Manager
Lawrence Robinson, Town Attorney
The first item to be discussed was a summer soccer camp proposed for
Vail next summer. Mr. Wachter conducted a camp in Summit County
last year with an enrollment of 120 boys from ages 8 •to 19. If the camp
were held in Vail, he would make his own arrangements for lodging and
food service. Last year the charges were $85 per week, unless the boy
lived in the area, in which case it was $25. Mayor Dobson noted that the
main question of the Council was what fee should be charged for the use
of the field. Mr. Wachter noted that last year his profit came to $1 .58
per boy. The hours of use of the field were from 9:00 a. m. to 11:15 a. m.;
from 2:15 p. m. to 4:30 p. m. and from 6:45 p. m. to 8:30 P. m. The ,charge
for the. Field the previous year had totaled approximately $50.00 aweek.
He would like to conduct the camp in late July or early August. Councilman
Langmaid noted that night use of the field might not be possible; however,
Mr. Wachter felt the hours were flexible. Mr. Penwtll contributed that he
thought the Vail soccer program could be worked around the other use of
the Field. Councilman Donovan moved that the camp be allowed •to use the
field for $50 per week, not to exceed $150� Councilman Bailey seconded;
Councilman Staufer abstained; Councilmen Bailey, Donovan, Langmaid,
Steinberg and Dobson were in Favor. Mr. Minger will meet with Mr. Wachter
to work out the details of the arrangement.
Ordinance No. 13, AN ORDINANCE AUTHCRIZING THE TOWN OF VAIL TO
LEASE CERTAIN PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHIN THE TOWN OF VAIL TO.
BE USED AS A MUNICIPAL PARKING FACILITY; DETERMINING THAT
SAID REAL PROPERTY SHOULD BE EXEMPT FROM ALL AD VALOREM
REAL PROPERTY TAXES; AND SETTING FORTH MATTERS AND DETAILS
IN RELATION THERETO, was introduced on second reading. As there were
no questions or objections, Councilman Donovan moved Ordinance No. 13 be
adopted; Councilman Steinberg seconded; approval was unanimous.
Ordinance No. 14, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 6 (Series
of 1971) REFERRING TO THE UNIFORM BUILDINGS CODE, 1976 EDITION,
DELETING PORTIONS OF SAID UNIFORM BUILDING CODE AND MAKING
ADDITIONS THERETO; AND SETTING FORTH DETAILS IN RELATION TO
THE FOREGOING, was introduced on second reading. Mr. Robinson noted
that, in addition to the amendments. already proposed, the First line and first
2 words in Section 2 should be deleted. Councilman Batley.moved the
amended ordinance be adopted; Councilman Donovan seconded; passage was
unanimous.
Ordinance No. 15, AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING MUNICIPAL BORROWING
OF MONEY IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $75,000.00 TO SUPPLEMENT
THE GENERAL REVENUES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 1972; AUTHORIZING
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THE MAYOR AND TOWN MANAGER TO EXECUTE SHORT TERM NOTES
TO EVIDENCE SUCH INDEBTEDNESS FOR MUNICIPAL_ PURPOSES; AND
SETTING FORTH MATTERS AND DETAILS IN RELATION THERETO, was
introduced on second reading. As there were no questions or objections,
Councilman Steinberg moved the ordinance be adopted; Councilman Bailey.
seconded; approval was unanimous.
Next on the agenda was a request for a parking variance for the Cornice
Building. Mr. McLaughlin, representing Ernst Larese, noted that they
were of the opinion that the change in character to a restaurant ope. ration
would lessen the burden currently placed on the main parking lot. Mayor
Dobson indicated that the Council would like the police chief to look at the
proposal; there was still concern that people would back onto the main
thoroughfare, as only one car could pass through the dbiveway at a time.
When this traffic report has been received, a decision will be made.
The list of applicants for the Four vacancies on the Planning Commission was
read. Each Councilman indicated the four members he would prefer and sub-
mitted these names to the Mayor for tallying . The Mayor noted that this
procedure is the simplest one; however, he was sure that each Councilman
would be willing to reveal how he voted, if requested. The first ballot
resulted in a tie between Mr. Weibel and Mr. Pierce; on the second ballot,
Mr. Pierce received the higher vote. Councilman Donovan moved that
Mr. Pierce, Mr. Lapin, Mr. Wright and Mr. Sage be appointed to the
Planning Commission effective immediately; Councilman Bailey seconded;
approval was unanimous.
A resolution opposing the passage of proposed Constitutional amendments
7 and 12 was next presented. Mr. Minger explained that each of these
amendments, the Dean amendment and the Common Cause amendment,
dea It with the property.tax. Both of them put a limit of 54 mills on the
tax; of this amount 37.5 mills would be allocated among the county, muni=
cipalities and special districts. The formula for this allocation is not stipu-
lated. Also, because these are proposed as provisions of the Constitution
rather than 'statutes, they would be very difficult.to change if found unwork-
able. Another objection was that they take the control from the local govern
ments and put it in the hands of 'the state. The arguments in favor of the
proposals all center on the fact that the property tax is mis-used. After
further discussion, Councilman Langmaid moved the resolution be`adopted,
Councilman Donovan seconded; adoption was unanimous:: The resolution will
be published.
• Mr. Minger noted that 52 people have already indicated their interest in
reserving a parking space in the main lot for the winter. This brings up
the issue of the parking. policy for the winter. The administrative staff has
considered the possibility of charging for any use of this area; the rationale
is not to use it as a revenue source, but. rather to force the most productive
use of this heavy -demand, close -in space, Otherwise, people will leave
their car as long as four or five days. Further discussion brought out the
viewpoints that: 1 . such a move might benefit the businesses in Lionshead
to the detriment of the core -area businesses; 2. the lot is too much used
for employee, rather than guest, parking; 3. free parking up to 2 hours
should be provided for those who are shopping; 4. rental cars should be
handled by the rental companies off the main parking. lot; 5. YM plates
should be parked in a separate lot and banned from the main lot on week-
ends, etc.; 6. employees should be required to park on the Antholz property
with good shuttle -bus service provided; 7. ,neither customers nor skiers
should be charged for parking; 8. there is not enough parking available to
accommodate all skiers. Mayor Dobson suggested that at the next meeting
the discussion begin with an outline of exactly what spaces are available
and where, followed by a comparison of what has been previously available,
what is needed, and what the possibilities are of providing shuttle services.
The meeting will be publicized as for this purpose. Mr. Robinson was asked
to study the question of whether it is legal to use town revenues to maintain
the parking lot and, at the same time, charge a few people for a reserved
space.
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Ms. Susie Brenden had attended the meeting in order to request the use of
the council room for a pre-school class. The class would be open to local
children only, not to exceed 12 children. The charge for 56 hours a month
would be $50. Councilman Donovan suggested that, as the number. in the
group was limited, those who had not been admitted might complain to the
town, as the council room is a public facility. Councilman Staufer expressed
his opinion that there exists a civic duty to help fulfill so apparent a need.
Ms. Brenden noted that if she had the use of a room as large as the council -
room she might be able to hire more staff and accommodate more children.
The Recreation District had denied her request for the use of the golf club-
house. Mayor Dobson emphasized that his major qualm was -the precedent
set by the use of a public facility for a private purpose. Mr. Lapin suggested
that perhaps the town should administer the program. Ms. Brenden noted
that the use of convention rooms in lodges was not possible because -they are
not available for 7 hours; she felt the program should extend over, this long a
period to make it a more useable time for the mothers. Mr. Minger agreed
that the privateness of the venture makes the use of the council'.room inap-
propriate; also, the other uses of -the building make the conduct of a pre--
school inappropriate in the same quarters. Councilman Staufer suggested
that the Recreation District Board be re -approached on the use of their
facility. Mayor Dobson summarized that: 1. the Council is sympathetic
to the need; 2. the undertaking should be approached on aspublic a basis
as possible if the municipality is to be involved; 3. 'the Recreation District
will be approached; 4. Mr. Minger and Ms. Brenden should discuss the
extent of municipal involvement.
As an informational point, Mr. Minger noted that the County is very close to
hiring a planner. The minutes of the meetings of September 29, October 3,
October, 6 and October 12, as corrected, had been previously submitted to
the Council. Councilman Donovan moved they be approved, Councilman
Staufer seconded, approval was unanimous. A final item brought before
the Council was the recent rash of house break-ins in the town. Mr. Minger
noted that the police department is aware .of this and taking steps to prevent
further difficulties. As there was no further business, Councilman Donovan
moved the Town Council adjourn at 9:45 p.m. .
The meeting convened as -the Local Liquor Licensing Authority at 9:45 p. m.
Mr. Robinson noted that the hearing on the application of Bridgewater Inn,
Inc. had been conducted two weeks ago and that it is necessary to reach'a
decision. It was stated that the facility has no difficulty in meeting parking
requirements. Councilman Bailey moved the license be approved; Council-
man Steinberg seconded; Councilmen Donovan and Staufer abstained; Council-
men Bailey, Langmaid, Steinberg and Dobson were in favor.
As there was no further business, Councilman Langmaid moved the Local
Liquor Licensing Authority be adjourned; Councilman Steinberg seconded;
adjournment was at 9:50 p. m.
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