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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1972-11-07 Town Council MinutesMINUTES REGULAR MEETING TOWN COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF VAIL NOVEMBER 7, 1972 A regular, meeting of the Town Counci l of the Town of Val I was convened at 7.40 p.m., November 7, 1972, in the Council Room of the Vail Municipal Building. Mayor John Dobson and the following Councilmen were present: John Donovan Joseph Langmaid Josef StauFer Gerry White Also present were: Terrell Minger, Town Manager Lawrence Robinson, Town Attorney Discussion first centered on the request for re -zoning from Mr. Clancy and Mr. Brady, the new owners of the property known as the Pulis property. A letter from the Planning Commission to the effect that the request be tabled was read in full. Mr. Clancy indicated they would like the zoning change due to the unfeasibility or undesirability of building in some of the areas currently zoned for building. He noted that they have not changed the total buildable sqaure Footage in each zone with their new plan; rather, they are -trying 'to make 'the planning m6r4p logical and orderly. They would,prefer not -to wait for the development of a P.U.D, ordinance as this eventuality might not occur. Mr. Clark,Chairman of the Planning Commission, stated that it was his under- standing that under the present zoning ordinancethe Town cannot legally enter into contracts requiring the building of amenities. He also suggested that the developers did not need a decision at present as their first stage is one of low density. However, Mr. Clancy disagreed; the first stage is predicated on later developments. In response to a question From Councilman Langmaid, Mr. Clancy noted that dedicated open space in the present zoning is 530,000 square feet; in their proposed new plan this has been reduced to 515,000 square feet. There was some discussion of whether the Town can enter into an agreement For the construction of amenities. Mr. Robinson felt attention should be focused on 'the fact that experts are being hired to develop a definitive P.U.D. provision which could be applied to this property. Mr: Clancy noted that they are wilting to sub- mit the property to the P. U . D , provision, if developed. He acknowledged that the inclusion of the additional 15,000 square feet did lower the density calcula- tions. A map of the amenities they propose was displayed and discussed. Mayor Dobson inquired why the new plan is seen as better for the Town. Mr. Clancy felt that, within their property, they have provided the type of comprehensive planning that the Town is attempting to establish throughout its jurisdiction. In regard to what portions of -the new plan could not be constructed under the old zoning, Mr. Clancy noted that the new plan allows for the transfer of densities, enabling them to concentrate density in one portion of a large zone. Councilman White noted that under a P.U.D. ordinance this transfer would be possible; however, in that case, the town would be able to control the placement of the densities. There was some discussion of the effect of lowering densities on the proposed recreational amenities. The quantity of amenities needed for the quantity of.beds planned was also discussed. Mayor Dobson suggested that the recommendation from the Planning Commission to table be accepted with the understanding that discussions will be continued. Mr. Robinson cautioned that the zoning ordinance requires a decision within 90 days of the public hearing. Councilman White noted that it would be necessary for -the developers to request that they be put under a P. U . D. provision. Mr. Clark noted that the small area or HDMF on the original zoning map was included in order to obtain the uses only. Mr. Jensen, attorney for the developers, reiterated some points relating to their willingness to commit to building amenities and to submit to a P.U.D., if adopted. Secondly, he noted that they cannot begin their first phase without a decision on the total project due -to SEC registration requirements. However, three months' delay would not cause problems for them. Councilman Staufer noted that as a great deal of money is going to be spent on the master plan, it seems most logical to wait until some conclusions have been reached in that regard. Councilman Donovan moved. that the request be tabled and a decision made on January 15. There was general agreement with this motion. Next to be considered was a proposed plat of Vail Village, 13th Filing. Maps of the area were displayed and various statistics relative to the region given. It was noted that a suggestion has been made to locate a private school in the area. The Planning Commission has approved this plat. After some discussion, Councilman White moved that the plat of.the Vail Village 13th Filing be approved; Councilman Staufer seconded; approval was unanimous. In regard to a condi- tional use permit to allow a private school site on Agricultural -zoned land, there was some discussion. of the ecological impact of locating such a facility, in that area; also, of the various geological factors involved. Mayor Dobson suggested that before even a tentative decision were reached, the Planning Com- mission should study the matter as well as the various administrative depart- ments. There was general agreement with this suggestion. A request had been received from Ernst Larese to operate a Fondue Stuber'l restaurant. Mr. McLaughlin, his attorney, traced the history of the various requests -they have made regarding a change of use of the Cornice Building. It was their contention that the change of use would be advantageous to the Town because: 1 . it would improve the exterior appearance of the building; 2. it would reduce the large number of cars generated by the rental units in the build- ing; 3. it could provide a needed service in town. Mr. McLaughlin suggested that if a variance were not granted it might be possible to build a large structure on the buildable lot by using the 7,060 square feet currently leased to the Town, but upon which they have exercised an option, for the F.A.R. The only dis- advantage they could see in granting the variance was that a possibility would exist of increased traffic congestion. It was noted that four parking spaces would be required by ordinance if the down- stairs were converted into a restaurant. They have sufficient land for those spaces, however, they do not have proper turn-arounds. Mr. Minger thought • that, realistically, even if the four spaces are provided, most customers are going to park in the main lot. Further discussion ensued. of the comparative advantages and disadvantages of the present use of the building. Concern was expressed regarding possible difficulties arising because of the proximity of the building to the proposed parking structure. Councilman Langmaid expressed the opinion that if any variance were granted, he.would prefer that it be to waive the parking requirement entirety rather than allow the unsatisfactory ingress and egress. Mayor Dobson inquired if it :were possible to grant a variance tied to a certain use; if the use changed, the variance would be cancelled. It was agreed that this might be possible. Discussion continued of the possible undesirable precedents that might be set. Mr. Minger suggested- that perhaps Mr. `Larese be required to lease four or five spaces in the main tot each year, until the char- acter of that lot changes. Councilman Staufer noted that if everyone who would desire such an arrangement were accommodated, the entire lot would be teased. Following further discussion, Mayor Dobson suggested the request be denied until the Council addressed the larger parking problems. It was suggested to Mr. Larese that he attempt to lease private land for parking. Councilman Langmaid moved 'that the parking variance request for the Cornice Building be denied; Councilman Donovan seconded; the motion carried unanimously. It was emphasized that this denial applied only to'those requests made to date. Mr. Mauri Nottingham had submitted his resignation from the Sign Review Board. Councilman Donovan moved it be accepted; Councilman White seconded; the motion Page 2 unanimously carried. The minutes of the meeting of October 17, 1972, had been previously sent to the Council. Councilman Staufer moved the minutes be approved; Councilman White seconded; approval was unanimous. Several informational items had been distributed to the Council which engendered some discussion. As there was no further business, Councilman Staufer moved the Town Council be adjourned at 10:15 p.m., Councilman Donovan seconded, approval was unanimous. The meeting convened as the Local Liquor Licensing Authority at 10:15 p.m. Applications for corporate changes had been received from Golden Peak Restaurants, Inc. and Vail Lions Head Restaurants, Inc. Councilman White moved both changes be approved; Councilman Langmaid seconded; approval was unanimous. As •there was no further business, the Local Liquor Licensing Authority adjourned' at 10!20 p.m. Town Clerk • Page 3 it „_ box i co . vail, colorado 81657 . 303• 4 7 6 - 5 6 1 3 November 7, 1972 To The Members of the Town Council: This letter is in reference to the Planning Commission recommendation concerning the re -zoning request for the property known as the Pulls property. It is the recommendation of the Planning Commission that this request be tabled and that no action be taken by the Town Council at this time. Our recommendation is based upon the following considerations: 1. The contemplated revision of the Zoning Ordinance in the near future; 2. The creation of a Planned Unit Development provision in the new Zoning Ordinance. We feel that this particular property would qualify under the contemplated PUD provision. 3. The anticipated outcome of the master planning study and the subsequent master plan for the community. The Planning Commission would be witting, however, to consider this re -zoning request subject to the revision of the zoning ordinance and the completion of the master plan. Sincerely, Bob Clark Chairman Planning Commission