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JOINT MEETING
BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE TOWN OF VAIL.
AND
BOARD OF DIRECTORS/VAIL METROPOLITAN RECREATION DISTRICT
MARCH 7, 1972
A joint meeting of the Board of Trustees of the Town of Vail, and the Board of
Directors of the Vail Metropolitan Recreation District was convened at 7:35 p.m.,.
March 7, 1972, in the Council Room of the Vail .Municipal Building.
Mayor John A. Dobson and the following Trustees were present:
C. P. Tod Anderson Richard Bailey _
John Donovan Clayton Freeman
Dr. Thomas 1. Steinberg Gerry White
Chairman Rod Slifer and the following Recreation District Directors were present;
Francis Brofos C. ,E. ,Ted Kindel
Jerry Muth Gerry White
1 Also present were:
Terrell Minger, Town Manager
Lawrence Robinson, Town Attorney
Bob Clark, Planning Commission Member
Mr. Slifer opened the meeting with the announcement that Mr. Bill Wright has
been selected as tennis pro for the forthcoming season. He then turned to the
topic of the proposed 1972 rates for golf and tennis. Important points to be
noted were: 1. the season pass rate for property taxpayers will be lower than
the regular rate; 2. the golf rates reflect a 20% increase over last year, the
tennis rates will remain virtually the same, 3.. the pro must screen any child-
ren who want to play golf. It was pointed out that in order to qualify for the
taxpayer rate it is not necessary to live in Vail, only to pay property taxes,
Director White made the motion this schedule be adopted., Director Kindel
seconded the motion and passage was unanimous.
As there was no further business, the Recreation Board meeting adjourned at.
7:45
Mayor Dobson opened the Board of Trustees meeting with a request for Mr.
Slifer, as Chairman of the Planning Commission, to sum up the discussions
they have had with the representatives of the Antholz property (Leavell-Manor
Vail, Manor Vail Plan). Chairman Slifer explained that. the changes between
the plan they are currently proposing and an earlier., plan `include: 1. a decrease
in the area zoned HS; 2. a decrease in the area zoned CCII; 3. the addition of
an agricultural zone; and 4. .a restudy of the Vail Valley Drive area. In this
form, the Planning Commission recommends the plan. M.r. Knox of the Vail
Trail asked what solution had been reached to the problem of the proposed bridge
over Gore Creek. Chairman Slifer replied that it was proposed to be an over-
sized single -lane, one-way vehicular bridge with a separate pedestrian walk -way.
It would be automatically converted to pedestrian -only after five years from the.
annexation; after three years, with the consent of the developers; or automatically
after 400 units (2 hotel rooms equal one unit) have been sold. In addition, no
service vehicles would be allowed at any time to use the bridge. In terms of the
construction of the bridge, its design would be subject to approval by the Town.
Mr. Langmaid inquired whether the road behind the existing Manor Vail is public
or private. Mr. Minger indicated that it has been dedicated to the Town of Vail
by Vail Associates but that the Town has not yet, signed the agreement. Vail
Associates has retained a five--fobt strip but no problems are here anticipated..
Vail Associates is concerned, however, with the direction of the traffic. Mr..
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Kindel inquired if the developer has agreed to work with the Planning Com-
mission on the direction of traffic; also, if the Police and Fire Departments
had indicated their preference in the matter. Mr. Slifer indicated that the
discussions had not yet progressed that far.
. It was indicated that this was only a preliminary hearing. A petition will be
filed for annexation along with the proper, documents and public notice .given
of the proposed annexation. Then, at the meeting on March 21, the proposal
will be given formal consideration and a vote taken.
Chairman Slifer mentioned that there is a parcel of property to the west of
the Antholz property that will probably annex at the same time. He indicated
that Leavell-Manor Vail is thinking about 700 units, or about3,000 people.
Mr. Amato, representing this property contributed that as the northern bound-
ary is the service road and there is also a loop road these will together handle
most of the traffic. It was asked why the road through Manor Vail was neces-
sary at all. The essence of the response given by both Chairman Slifer and
Mr. Amato was that it would be too much of a disadvantage to try to begin a
development of this size without direct access to the Town. The beginning
period would. also be the time when the traffic volume would be the lowest.
Chairman Slifer indicated they had looked at other possible locations for the
bridge but none were feasible.
As Mayor Dobson asked Mr,. Amato if he agreed with the.outline of meetings given.
He indicated his agreement and also that they would prefer that the road run
from west to east. Mr. Amato was also asked if they planned any building for
the summer. He said they would do some, either in the HDMF along the north
side of the creek or in the PA or HDMF above CCII.
A representative of Manor Vail stated that they would ask for certain reimburse-
ments and improvements to be built after the bridge was installed and the street
realigned. He wanted to know who would be responsible for payment in that case.
The Mayor responded that necessary road improvements would seem to be the
responsibility of the Town. Mr. Amato contributed that they considered any ex-
penses for connection or realignment with the existing road to be the developer's
expense. Perhaps this should be covered in.the annexation agreement. Mayor
Dobson concluded this discussion with the statement that they would like to have
any objections as soon. as possible and preferably on paper.
The next item of business was the consideration of a rezoning proposal for Lots
G, H, I, Second Filing Vail Village. Mr. Clark conducted this discussion. The
proposal is to change PA to HDMF or MF. Mr. Donovan indicated that the
opinion of the Planning Commission is divided on this issue. The area is sur-
rounded on three sides by PA zoning. He suggested that offices would be allowed
above the Bank with the present zoning rather than condominiums. A represen-
tative of the Bank noted that they were proposing condominiums in order to
defray some of the expenses and that these units would be closely held in order
to be available for future Bank expansion. Trustee Donovan noted that they
could achieve the same thing if they built offices. It was indicated that they
would build this summer if approval were granted.
Mayor Dobson asked Mr. Clark to explain the second proposed building for
these lots. It would be pure condominiums, not more than three stories high,
The area backs up on MF zoning, and with the Bank built on the front of the
parcel, it would not have street access. Mr. Engelke, the architect for the
proposed project, explained that they would construct a unit designed in such
a manner that the bedrooms could be rented. The building would be administered
from the Sitzmark. The construction, if allowed, would begin a year from this
summer. Mayor Dobson restated the issue as one of the basic desires of the .
community. The original intent was to encourage lodge use in the central areas
of the village. The question now is if that is still the desired usage.' He empha-..
sized that the question is one of use, not form of ownership. If the bedrooms to
be rented could be guaranteed in their use as lodge rooms, there would be no.
problem. Trustee Donovan made the suggestion that an alternative use..could be
a professional area. A decision will be reached at some future date:
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The next matter of business was the amendment to the parking ordinancepre-
viously published, Ordinance No. 3 (Series of 1972).. As there was no further
discussion, the Trustees were polled, as to whether they had read and under-
stood the. ordinance. Each of them stated that he had. A vote was taken and
the ordinance unanimously passed.
Mayor Dobson opened the question of a house numbering system in Vail." Such
a system could be of great help to the Police and Fire Departments. 'It would
not be necessary to list the numbers in the phone book.. Mr. Langmaid com-
mented that the Fire Chief has already divided the town for this purpose. The
Police Chief contributed that they have already devised a system for the use of
their Department. Mr. Minger, the Town Manager, suggested that an ordinance
would be required to effect the system. It would probably consist of a stake
between the building and the road, rather than a number on the building. From
the comments made, it appeared that this would be beneficial to many people.
The Mayor asked George Knox of the Vail Trail to run an article in the. paper
and see if there is any response.
A list of potential judges, clerks and a-Iternates for the April 4 election had been
submitted to the Trustees. Mr. Donovan moved this list be accepted; Mr.
Steinberg seconded and the motion was unanimously passed.
The reports of the Town Manager were the next order of business. He first
proposed that a date be set for the open house for the Municipal Building,
Library and Fire Station. After some, discussion this was set for Monday
evening, March 20, from 7:30 to 9:30 p.m.
A member of the audience inquired who owned the alley between the Rucksack
and the Red Lion. There was some speculation that it was Vail Associates with
easements given to the adjoining property owners. The Mayor asked the Town
Attorney to determine the ownership.
The Town Manager next suggested that they acknowledge receipt of a letter, from
Holy Cross Electric outlining their proposed franchise but that no meeting be
scheduled until after the election. This course of action was agreed upon. Mr.
Minger had brought with him the landscaping plan for the Municipal. Building.
We will do most of the work ourselves and the Post. Office will hopefully pay for
its portion of the work. In the matter of a street name change for Wall Street,
it was suggested that the people who object to the current name suggest possible
other names. The Town Manager then reported on a study made of the parking
situation in Vail. We would need an additional 755 spaces if every building in
the Commercial Core met the parking requirement. A full report on this mat-
ter will be presented in about 10 days. Mr. Knox stated that it was his under
standing that construction was to begin on the lot where the Bus Terminal cur-
rently stands. The Town Manager confirmed this report and indicated that they
have begun to took for an alternative location.
Trustee Steinberg suggested that a study be made of the feasibility of curb=side
pick-up of trash. Also, that it be considered whether a bag, either plastic or
paper, be required.
As there was no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
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