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REGULAR MEETING
TOWN COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF'VAIL
AUGUST 21 , 1973'
A regular meeting of the Town Council of the Town of Vail was convened at
7:35 p.m., August 21, 1973, in the Council Room of the Vail Municipal
Building.
Mayor John A. Dobson and the following Councilmen were present:
Richard Bailey John.Donovan
Joseph Langmaid Josef Staufer
Gerry White Tom Steinberg (for a portion only)
Also present were:
Jim Lamont, Administrative Assistant .
Bob Manzanares, Administrative Assistant
Kent Rose, Town Engineer
Gary Wall, Police Chief
Ordinance No. 9, AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING COMPREHENSIVE
SIGN REGULATIONS FOR THE TOWN OF VAIL, AND PROVIDING. FOR
THE ADMINISTRATION :AND ENFORCEMENT OF SAME; REGULATING
THE ERECTION, CONSTRUCTION, RESTORATION, ALTERATION,
LOCATION, LANDSCAPING AND MAINTENANCE OF SIGNS, WINDOW
SIGNS, FLAGS, PENNANTS, BANNERS AND BUNTINGS, DISPLAY
BOXES, RESIDENTIAL NAME PLATE SIGNS, SUBDIVISION ENTRANCE
SIGNS, TEMPORARY SITE DEVELOPMENT SIGNSS'., TRAFFIC CONTROL
SIGNS FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY, MURALS AND SU.PERGRAPHICS A.ND
PERMITTING AN:APPROVED SIGN PROGRAM, ESTABLISHING A DESIGN
REVIEW PROCEDURE AND GUIDELINES; PROVIDING FOR VARIOUS..
ADMINISTRATIVE, REVIEW AND APPEAL PROCEDURES; PROVIDING
PENALTIES FOR THE VIOLATION, THEREOF, PROVIDING FOR THE
REPEAL OF; ORDINANCE NO.. 15 (Series` of 1967); and SETTING FORTH
MATTERS AND DETAILS IN RELATION THERETO, was introduced for
second reading. The tit,16 was read: in full by the Mayor and the audience
advised that copies were available. Changes in the ordinance made since
the first reading were discussed.. Councilman Donovan questioned the pro-
vision giving the design review board discretion in regard to signs for base-
ment businesses. He found the proposed maximum size too large. Mr: L.
Parker disagreed; he felt that if this discretion were not allowed, the first
floor business is given an unfair, advantage. Mayor Dobson suggested that a
different approach would be to allocate a certain square footage of signs to
each building and allow the individuals within the building.to work outfurther
arrangements within that limit. Mr. Parker suggested that another approach
would be to base the size of the sign on the square footage of the business.
Mr. Lamont stated that there would still be variations in size of allowable
signs under this method. He further noted that there is some flexibility
given through the option of sign programs for a building and joint directory
signs. After some further discussion, Councilman Donovan moved that the
option for below -grade business signs to be up to 12 square feet, at the discre-
tion of the design review board, be deleted in each of the four places in which
it occurs; Councilman Bailey seconded; Councilmen Bailey, Donovan, Langmaid,
Staufer, White and Dobson voted in favor; there were no votes against.; the
motion carried.
Councilman Staufer disagreed with the provision which prohibited the lighting
of traffic control signs on private property. He 'tiioved that indirect lighting
of traffic control signs on private property be allowed at the discretion of the
design review board; Councilman Donovan seconded.; Councilmen Bailey,
Donovan, Langmaid, Staufer, White and Dobson voted in. favor; there were
no votes against; the motion carried.
Councilman Staufer suggested that the addition of a provision for selective
condemnation would result in a court proceeding to remove the Holiday Inn
sign, rather than encouraging negotiations for its removal. Mr. Lamont
noted that this provision had been requested at the first reading. There was
general agreement that the provision should remain in the ordinance.
Mr. L. Parker objected to the provision allowing a single business occupant
of a building a free-standing sign of 20 square feet. irregardless of the frontage
of the business. After some discussion, Councilman Staufer moved that the
size limitations of a free-standing sign be calculated on the basis of lineal
front footage; Councilman Donovan seconded; Councilmen Bailey, Donovan,
Langmaid, Staufer, White and Dobson voted in favor; there were no votes
against; the motion carried.
The subject of the size of signs allowable in arcades was next discussed.
Councilman White moved that signs in arcades be limited to three square
feet; Councilman Donovan seconded; Councilmen Bailey, Donovan, Langmaid,
Staufer, White and Dobson voted in favor; there were no votes against; the
motion carried.
As there was no further discussion, Councilman Staufer moved that the amend-
ments proposed by the staff be approN%ed, exclusive of the foregoing changes;
Councilman Bailey seconded; Councilmen Bailey, Donovan, Langmaid, Staufer;
White and Dobson voted in favor; there were no votes against; the motion
carried. Councilman White moved that Ordinance No. 9 be adopted as amended;
Councilman Donovan seconded; Councilmen Bailey, Donovan, Langmaid, Staufer,
White and Dobson voted in favor; there were no votes against; the motion carried
and the ordinance was adopted.
Ordinance No. 12, AN ORDINANCE ANNEXING TO THE TOWN OF VAIL
CERTAIN TERRITORY SITUATED IN EAGLE COUNTY, STATE OF COLORADO,
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS VAIL VILLAGE 11.th FILING,
ACCORDING TO THE RECORDED PLAT THEREOF, ZONING SAID PROPERTY
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR THE TOWN OF VAIL;
AND SETTING FORTH MATTERS AND DETAILS IN RELATION THERETO,
was introduced for second reading. The title was read in full and the audience
advised that copies were available. Mr. Rose clarified that the property is
being annexed under the old zoning ordinance, but that any improvements made
after annexation will be regulated under the new zoning ordinance. As there
was no further discussion, Councilman Staufer moved that Ordinance No. 12
be adopted; Councilman Donovan seconded; Councilmen Bailey, Donovan,
Langmaid, Staufer, White and Dobson voted in favor; there were no votes
against; the motion carried and the ordinance was adopted.
Ordinance No. 13, AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING BICYCLE AND PEDES-
TRIAN PATHS WITHIN THE TOWN OF VAIL, REGULATING THE USE OF
SUCH BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PATHS; PROHIBITING THE USE THEREOF
BY CERTAIN VEHICLESJAND LIVESTOCK; PROVIDING FOR THE RIGHT-OF-
WAY ALONG SUCH BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PATHS; PROVIDING.
PENALTIES FOR VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE; AND SETTING FORTH
MATTERS AND DETAILS IN RELATION THERETO, was introduced for
second reading. The title was read in full and the audience advised that
copies were available. It was noted that the ordinance has been amended
to include the prohibition of livestock from these paths. Mr. Wall noted that
Vail Associates would like to use the portion of the path that leads to Gondola I
for service to that gondola and for ambulances. Such an arrangement might
remove some vehicles from the core area. He further noted that there is no
provision for special permits in the ordinance as now written. Councilman
Staufer was of the opinion that, as the paths were constructed for a specific
purpose, the additional use should not be allowed. Mr. Elias inquired if the
bicycle path, in those portions where it follows the city streets, was to be
separated by a line in the future. Mayor Dobson noted that this would be
considered. Mr. Elias inquired if ordinances would be passed regulating
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the manner in which bicycles are ridden. Councilman White noted that
bicycles are bound by state statutes when on the public streets. Mr. Weibel
inquired about the relationship of the Vail Associates pumphouse to the
bicycle paths. Councilman Langmaid noted that they have agreed to move
the bicycle path to the north and use the existing path for their driveway.
Trees will be planted between the two paths. Councilman Donovan moved
that Ordinance No. 13 be adopted as amended; Councilman. Bailey seconded;
Councilmen Bailey, Donovan, Langmaid, Staufer, Steinberg (who entered
during the foregoing discussion), White and Dobson voted in favor; there
were no votes against; the motion carried and the ordinance was adopted.
Ordinance No. 14, AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR THE REVVEW OF ALL
LANDSCAPING AS REQUIRED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE SIGN
ORDINANCE, WITHIN THE TOWN OF VAIL; PROVIDING REVIEW PROCE-
DURES AND CRITERIA; ESTABLISHING PERFORMANCE BONDING
THEREFOR; REQUIRING MAINTENANCE THEREOF; AND SETTING FORTH
MATTERS IN RELATION THERETO AND PROVIDING PENALTIES FOR THE
VIOLATION THEREOF was introduced for first reading by Councilman Langmaid
The title was read in full, and the audience advised that copies were available.
Councilman Langmaid moved that Ordinance No. 14 be approved on first reading;
Councilman Bailey seconded; Councilmen Bailey, Donovan, Langmaid, Staufer,
Steinberg, White and -Dobson voted in favor; there were no votes against; the
motion carried and the Town Clerk was instructed to publish the ordinance for
public hearing at the next regular meeting.
In regard to a request for a parking variance from Mountain Bell, Mr. Rose
reported that they have asked that this matter be postponed. The matter was
tabled until the next regular meeting.
Mr. Rose explained that the fees to be charged under the new zoning ordinance
were being submitted separate fromthat ordinance in order to maintain flex-
ibility. Councilman Staufer was of the opinion that the suggested fees would
not pay for the staff time involved. Mr. Rose noted that any outside consultant
fees would be paid by the developer. There was general agreement among the
Councilmen that the fees were too low. Mayor Dobson suggested that the mat-
ter be studied further.
Mayor Dobson noted that there are two applicants for the vacancy on the
Planning Commission: Dudley Holmes and Jack Fritzlen. After an informal
vote, the Mayor announced that Mr. Fritzlen had been elected to the Planning
Commission.
Mr. Jay Peterson asked that the variance request from Ernst Larese be tabled.
The matter was postponed until the next meeting.
Mr. Elias suggested that the Town impose a use tax. It was his opinion that if
this was done the additional 1% sales tax might not be needed. Mr. Peterson
noted that the State currently collects the sales tax 'For the Town at no charge;
if a use tax were adopted, the Town would have to collect the tax itself. He
also suggested that the use tax is very involved administratively. Mr. Elias
felt that the tax should not be ignored just because it is difficult to administer.
Mr. Lapin added that tax is collected on the re -sale of property in a non -
incorporated form. Mr. Lamont added that a use tax is a declining source
of revenue as growth slows down. Mayor Dobson agreed to have Mr. Munger
and Mr. Bernstein prepare a report on the matter.
Mr. Weibel questioned several items on the voucher list for July. Councilman
Steinberg noted that, in regard to the meal charges, they actually represent
working time of the staff and hence, the cost is relatively inexpensive.
Councilman Donovan noted that some of the expenses noted by Mr. Weibel
are reimbursable . to the Town. Mayor Dobson noted that if Mr. Weibel
cared to look at the records in the Finance Department, he could do so.
He did agree, however, that possibly the information on the lists was too
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brief. Mr. Weibel complained that his street has not been washed, while
the parking lots of the Councilmen have been. Councilman White noted that
it is town policy to wash commercial parking lots once -after the snow melts.
Mr. Weibel suggested that not all lots were washed. After some discussion,
it was agreed that in the., future closer supervision of this policy will be
affected. Councilman Donovan noted that the flusher truck is currently
not operable.
Councilman Staufer inquired if the trailer court above Sandstone is subject
to unilateral annexation.: Mr. Dudley Abbott. suggested that there is a piece
of property that ties between Sandstone and the trai ter court that would be
the key to the annexation. Mr. Rose noted that the matter will be investigated.
As there was no further business, Councilman: Donovan moved that the Town
Council adjourn at 9:40 p.m.; Councilman Langmaid seconded; approval was
unant mous .
The Local Liquor Licensing Authority was., convened at 9:40 p.m. The Rotary
Club had made application for a special events permit. for August 25 and 26.
Mr. Wall reported that he foresaw no problems with the event: Councilman
Galley moved that the special events permit application be approved; Council-
man White seconded; approval was unanimous.
As there was no further business, Councilman Bailey moved that the Local
Liquor Licensing Authority adjourn at 9:45 p. m.; Councilman White seconded;
approval was unanimous.
Town Clerk
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