HomeMy WebLinkAbout1973-03-05 Town Council MinutesNOTICE OF SPECIAL MEETING
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PUBLIC NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN, in accordance
with the Charter for the Town of Vail, that a special meeting of the
Town Council for the Town of Vail will be held in the Council Room
of the Municipal Building at the hour of 10:00 o'clock a.m. on
Monday, March 5, 1973.
The purpose of the meeting is to discuss various matters
pertaining to applications for building permits for construction within
the Town of Vail, matters pertaining to water and sewer facilities, and
related matters pertaining to building and development policies within
the Town of Vail.
DATED this 28th day of February, 1973, at the hour of
11:30 o'clock a.m.
Town Clerk
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TO: TERRY MINGER
TOWN COUNCIL
PLANNING COMMISSION
FROM: KENT ROSE
JIM LAMONT
DIANA TOUGHILL
RE: STAFF REVIEW OF VILLAGE CENTRE
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The following recommendations are made by the Town of Vail
Staff after careful review of the proposed project:
1. We feel approval should be given only for building "B"
and that the remainder of the project should be reviewed
under the proposed new zoning ordinance and master plan.
2. Temporary parking should be furnished on the site for
Building "A" and building "B" (as shown on site plan)
until such time as pedestrian precinct master plan and
transportation terminal plans are completed and adopted.
At that time we suggest negotiations with Mr. Hibberd
in an attempt to provide all parking in the transporta-
tion terminal or to provide any on site parking below
grade.
3. If approval is given, it should be subject to an approved
landscaping plan for both buildings, with particular
attention to the stream tract.
4. All trash areas should be screened from view.
5. We suggest that the exterior treatment of the building be
softened by the addition of wood veneer or other suitable
natural material.
6. All signs must be approved by the Sign Review Committee.
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March 2, 1973
TO: TERRY MINCER
TOWN COUNCIL
PLANNING COMMISSION
FROM: KENT ROSE
JIM LAMONT
DIANA TOUGHILL
RE: STAFF REVIEW OF MONTANEROS PHASE II
The following recommendations are made by the Town of Vail Staff
after careful review of the proposed project:
1. We strongly recommend the removal of the attached commercial
space as.it is not an integral part of the design for the
project.
2. Parking should not be allowed in interior court yard. These
spaces would not be required if the commercial space is removed.
Heavy landscaping could then be provided in this court yard
which should be pedestrian oriented.
3. It is also suggested that parking be removed from the north
side of the building and that a parking concession for approxi-
mately 10 spaces be granted so parking can be removed from the
south side of building adjacent to tract land.
4. Final approval should be subject to an approved landscaping
plan.
5.. We feel decorative screening could be provided for underground
parking on both existing and proposed structures so that cars
are less visible from the pedestrian areas.
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8. It is suggested that alternate treatment of foundation areas
on both structures could be used to hide the unsightly concrete
foundation walls. We would suggest a natural material such as
.moss rock.
7. A children's play area could be incorporated into the central
court.
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8. All signs must be approved by the Sign Review Committee.
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March 2, 1973
TO: TERRY MINGER
TOWN COUNCIL
PLANNING COMMISSION
FROM: KENT ROSE
JIM LAMONT
DIANA TOUGHILL
RE: STAFF REVIEW OF VILLA CORTINA
The following recommendations are made by the Town of Vail Staff
after careful review of the proposed project:
1. Since the parking area is completely heated and snow storage
will not be a problem, we suggest that they be allowed to use
parking spaces 9' x IS' with a 24' aisle, This would allow
the parking to be moved back from the property line 3' so that
landscaping could be incorporated into the area south of the
Fire Station.
2. Planter boxes could be used to efficiently break up the parking
area, particularly in the summer when less parking is being
used.
.3. We suggest that the retaining walls adjacent to the ramp to
underground parking be treated with stone, brick or other de-
corative material to relieve the monotony of large expanses of
asphalt. Parking in the above grade parking could be screened
by adding a small wooden fence to the top of the retaining wall.
4. If clearucae.gem-;;.,aZl-lartte-eeuld-be---incorporated
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S. Heavy landscaping should be concentrated in the area adjacent
to the green belt area.
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TO: TERRY MINGER
TOWN COUNCIL
PLANNING COMMISSION
FROM: KENT ROSE
JIM LAMONT
DIANA TOUGHILL
RE: STAFF REVIEW OF LIONSHEAD LODGE ADDITION
The following recommendations are made by the Town of Vail Staff
after careful review of the proposed project:
1. Landscaping plan should be approved, with emphasis on the area
around the entry and adjacent to the green belt area.
2. We suggest that.some type of brick paving or similar material
be used in the entry area to create interest in this area.
3. Letter of approval from Vail Associates for ingress and egress
for driveway on Tract I must be obtained.
4. A children's play area could be incorporated into the land-
scaped area on the south side of the building.
S. If a retaining wall is used adjacent to the parking ramp, we
suggest it be treated with some type of stone or other natural
material.
6. Since Tracts I and J have been set aside for the drainage ease-
ment, drives should be designed to provide for surface water.
7. All signs must be approved by the Sign Review Committee.
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March 2, 1973
TO: TERRY MINGER
TOWN COUNCIL
PLANNING COMMISSION
FROM: KENT ROSE
JIM LAMONT
DIANA TOUGHILL
RE: STAFF REVIEW OF VAIL INTERNATIONAL
The following recommendations are made by the Town of Vail Staff
after careful review of the proposed project:
1.'We recommend that a parking concession for g
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so that parking would not be necessary on the east portion of
site adjacent to Middle Creek. This area could then be heavily
landscaped to screen parking area from green belt.
2. Landscaping should be increased toward Middle Creek and approval
should be subject to an approved landscaping plan.
3. Attention should be brought to the fact that the southwest
corner of the building is approximately 11 from a 12" water
main. The building is legal as situated, but the water line
could be damaged in the process of construction and if possible
building should be relocated.
4. All signs must be approved by the Sign Review Committee.
5. Landscaping should be used to screen parking from view from the
Frontage Road. This could be accomplished by using heavy land-
scaping toward the west entrance and by planting along the Fron-
tage Road in cooperation with the State Highway Department.
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March 7, 1973
TO: TERRY MINGER
TOWN COUNCIL
PLANNING COMMISSION
FROM: KENT ROSE
JIM LAMONT
DIANA TOUGHILL
RE: STAFF REVIEW OF SNOWBIRD LODGE A
Snowbird Lodqe
The Town staff feels that this is the type of project the Town
Council has been attempting to avoid through the design review
process. We feel that this type of project should be discouraged
and we would like to bring to your attention the facts that make
this project undesirable.
I. The.building exceeds the F.A.R. by 1752 sgua _proxi-
5si a ei)'—iiidi uCvCiuper" dppi,y for a
zero setback variance a the east and wesT properly Myles.
2. Developer also applied for, and received, a variance from the
Uniform Building Code to allow openings (doors, windows, etc.)
closer than 3t from property lines.
3. Parking variance has been applied for as spaces measure only
91 x 181 with a 24' aisle. There are only 70 spaces provided
and 78 are required by present parking ordinance.
4. Proposed deck to Gondola building will not be permitted as it
crosses a major utility easement. This is prohibited also by
protective covenant. Deck would exclude fire equipment from
the Gondola building as this is the only existing fire access.
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7. Any approval for this project should be subject to an approved
landscaping plan and all signs are subject to review by Sign
Review Committee.
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TO: TERRY MINDER
TOWN COUNCIL
PLANNING COMMISSION 7T
FROM: KENT ROSE
JIM LAMONT
DIANA TOUGHILL
RE: CONOCO ADDITION
The following recommendations are made by the Town of Vail
Staff after careful review of the proposed project:
1. Approval is subject to an approved landscaping plan.
Conoco has agreed to provide any landscaping which we
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3. A hipped roof is suggested in lieu of the roof detail
proposed so that it will be compatible with existing
building.
4. Exterior walls should be of similar material as existing
building.
5. Fencing at least 6' tall should be provided to screen
car storage area from view. It is suggested that a com-
bination of stone or brick and wood be used for the fences.
6. -Sign must be approved by the Sign Review Committee.
7. Only one bay should be allowed to open to the frcnt and the
overhead door for this bay should be treated with some type
of stained :aood to harmonize with exterior of building.
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SPECIAL JOINT MEETING
TOWN COUNCI l_ OF THE TOWN OF VAI L
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BOARD OF DIRECTORS/VAIL WATER AND SANITATION DISTRICT
MARCH 5, 1973
A special joint meeting of the Town Council of the Town of Vail and the
Board of Directors of the Vail Water and Sanitation District was convened
at 10:30 a.m., March 5, 1973, in the Council Room of the Vail Municipal
Building.
Mayor John A. Dobson and the following . Councilmen were present:
Richard Bailey John Donovan
Joseph Langmaid Josef Staufer
Tom Steinberg Gerry White
The following members of the Board of Directors were present.
John Dobson Ted Kindel
Josef Staufer Gerry.White
The following representatives of the Upper Eagle Valley Sanitation District
were present:
John Amato Fred Green
Lee Whiteman
Also present were:
Terry Minger, Town Manager
Stan Bernstein, Finance Director
Kent Rose, Town Engineer
Eric Edeen, Town Sanitarian
Pete Burnett, Street Superintendent
Tony Rossi, Sewer Plant Superintendent
Mr. Minger explained that the Ken R. White Company had been engaged to
study the ability of the two districts to treat sewage and provide water in
both the short and long term. Mr. Dasei Hallmark, a representative of
-- that firm, explained that population, both current and projected, is a very
important variable in their study. In the future, the largest growth will
take place downstream from Vail at a rate of approximately 2,000 people
per year. The sewage flow records for the Vail Plant for 1972 indicate that
the peak was in June; a time not in line with either population or water
consumption. Likewise, at 4:00 a. m. , when there is little water consumption
and hence, should be little sewage generated, the flow records still show a
rather heavy flow. These factors point to infiltration of the lines. Some
graphs which attempted to separate the amount of the flow that is actual sewage
from that which is infiltration were explained. Some of the figures used to
make the projections are that average daily consumption is around 100 gallons
per person, with 80% of the water finally going through the sewage treatment
plant.
The operations of the Vail sewer plant were explained. Parts of the plant are
capable of going above 1 million gallons per day. One important factor is to
be able to adjust the operation to changes in flow.. It was recommended that
enough equipment be acquired to allow these adjustments. When the adjust-
ments are made, the current clarifier will handle 750,000 gallons. In order
to go to 1 million, an additional clarifier needs to be added. In order to
design the clarifier, a decision must be made on the approach to be taken
toward infiltration. The design would vary depending upon the type of flow
going through the plant. in order to expand the Vail plant to 2 million gallons,
an aeration system would be required.
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Currently the Vail and Avon plants have a combined capacity of 1.5 million
gallons. The operation of the Avon plant was explained. The size of their
clarifier limits the plant to 800,000 gallons per day. If this were improved,
the capacity would be 1.2 million. Additional suggestions were that: 1 .
the aerobic digestor is too small; 2. a skimming device is needed; 3. the
plant, with the exception of the sludge beds, needs to be covered in order
to assure proper temperature. The Avon p lant also needed to acquire more
laboratory equipment. It was suggested that when the sludge beds cannot
be used, a septic tank truck be used to transport the waste either to Vail
or to a landit l I.
A member of the group asked if Mr. Hallmark thought the work done last
summer in the Bighorn area would be effective against the infiltration. Mr.
Hallmark indicated that the flow records show when the work was done;
hence, it might have been effective. Normal infiltration is 200 gallons per
mile of line. Excess infiltration can be located by measurements between
manholes or by using TV equipment in the lines. When found, the lines
can either be sealed at the key points or plastic liners can be placed in
the lines. Councilman Steinberg inquired if the Vail system had experienced
much infiltration prior to the construction of the UEVS system; Mr. Burnett
indicated that there had been very little.
Mr. Minger summarized that the steps to be taken by the Vail district are:
• 1 . the halting of infiltration; 2. the operation of the plant more efficiently;
S. the addition of baffles and a concret wall, bringing the capacity to
750,000 gallons with a potential for a million gallons for short periods;
4. the addition of a clarifier to bring the capacity to 1 million gallons with
a peak -period capacity of 1.5 million gallons. These improvements could
be completed by next December. Mr. Hallmark suggested that it is neces-
sary to decide to what extent the two plants are going to be viewed as an
integral system. Mr. Minger, suggested that the EPA is involved in this
decision. Mr. Amato, speaking for the UEVSD, noted -that they have arranged
for a bond issue to provide funds for the lab equipment, skimmer and cover
for the plant. They are prepared to spend $100,000 to further curtail infii
tration this summer. The extent of the work to be done will not be known
until the spring, when the effects of last summer's work can be assessed.
Mr. Minger asked, based on the Vail plant expanding to 1 .2 million and the
Avon plant to 2 million, if that would handle the valley's problems. Mr.
Hallmark noted that that would take care of the situation until 1976. If the
Avon plant only expanded to 1 .1 million, the situation would still be in control
until 1975, if 60% of the infiltration were stopped. He recommended that
before any major work is done on either plant, the long-range solutions be
considered. Councilman. Staufer inquired if it were sensible to operate two
separate systems, with Vail and Bighorn in one. Mr. Hallmark indicated
that a major expansion of the Vail plant would have to be undertaken if that
were the case. Mr. Kindel asked if tkertiary treatment would be necessary
by 1978. Mr. Hallmark suggested that the District begin looking toward this
type of system. One advantage would be that the water could then be re -used.
Mr. Green noted that the UEVSD. was planning no major expansion for the
forthcoming summer, but would expand in 1974.
Discussion turned to the problem of the amount of.sewerage generated by new
construction in Vail during the forthcoming summer and whether the plants
can handle this additional flow. Discussion also centered on the expansion of
areas east and west of Vail. Mr. Hallmark noted that they are projecting
16,000 people for both plants by the end of 1973. Mr. Amato noted that the
UEVSD is prepared to do those things necessary to improve the Avon plant
and stop infiltration. In the long-range planning, Mr. Amato preferred the
cooperative approach between the two plants. Mr. Kindel expressed his
cmcern that the clarifier cannot be designed until the extent to which the
infiltration problem has been solved has been determined. Mr. Hallmark
noted that the clarifier could be built in August and September after the deter-
mination is made of the infiltration in May and June. He estimated that the
cost of a clarifier would be less than $100,000. Mr. White moved that the
corrective measures be taken in the Vail plant and that work on the clarifier
be undertaken; Mr. Staufer seconded; Mr. Dobson, Mr. Kindel, Mr. Staufer,
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and Mr. White voted in favor; the motion carried.
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Mr. Staufer asked Mr. Amato how he felt about the Vail district purchasing
the Bighorn portion from the UEVSD. Mr. Amato indicated that they would
be willing to cooperate; however, they have some financial problems that
would necessitate a study of the effect of selling some of their customers
before a decision could be made. Mr. Dobson suggested that it was also
necessary for the Vail board to determine what the long-range solution is
going to be before making an offer to purchase.
Mr. Hallmark noted that the presentation which he had made would be put
into a written form. Mr. Minger stated that a meeting would be held when
this report was available and exact costs and reports on the treasures taken
will be presented. The report on the water system will be available by
mid -summer.
As there was no further business, the joint meeting of the Vail Water and
Sanitation District and the Town Council was adjourned at 12:45 p.m.
A special meeting of the Town Council of the Town of Vail was convened at
1 :00 p.m., March 5, 1973, in the Council Room of the Vail Municipal
Building.
Mayor John A. Dobson and the following Councilmen were present:
Richard Bailey John Donovan
Joseph Langmaid Josef Staufer
Tom Steinberg Gerry White
Terry Minger, Town Manager, was also present.
In regard to the amount of growth to be expected in the forthcoming year,
Councilman Bailey derived the figure of 2,200 additional people. That
figure did not include Landmark and the Tennis Club as they will not be
occupied until 1974. It was also pointed out that this figure did not include
projects currently under construction, from which the impact has not yet
been felt. Councilman White suggested that the real question is whether
the Master Flan will apply to Vail before or after the forthcoming construc-
tion season. Mayor Dobson noted that portions of it, the amenity fee, the
landscaping bond, etc., will apply; the remainder probably will not apply
this season. Councilman White differed in that he felt a greater portion
of the proposed ordinance could be put into effect in a shorter time span.
Returning to the question of buildings constructed, but not yet occupied,
there was general agreement that virtually nothing is being occupied that
was built last summer. The effect is that the impact being considered is
much greater than the figure of 2,200.
Mayor Dobson suggested that the Council attempt to isolate the factors that
make an increase of 2,500 people a matter of concern. He asked first if it
were a matter of the skiing. Councilman White stated that he felt the experi-
ence would be significantly harmed; Councilmen Langmaid and Donovan agreed.
In regard to additional areas of concern, Councilman White noted that he was
concerned about summer recreation; currently, the golf course is probably
meeting only 50% of the need and the tennis courts about 33/ of the need. In
addition, there are the visual effects of the construction which it was agreed
would lessen the appeal of the resort. There was also the air pollution
problem to be considered. Additional areas of concern were the parking and
transportation pressure, the employee housing pressure and the pressure
on the school system from the children of these employees. Councilman
Staufer suggested that there was an economic effect of dumping condominiums
on the market. Councilman Donovan suggested that it is also necessary to
consider the impact of the day skier. The discussion was summarized as the.
Council is concerned about the quality of the resort: skiing; summer recrea-
tion; parking and transportation; pollution; visual aspects, school impact;
crowding; and economic conditions.
Mayor Dobson asked what the positive aspects of growth would be. Vail
Associates is concerned that the reputation of Vail in financial circles will
be seriously damaged by restrictions on growth. Mr. Minger expressed his
concern that if the Council overreacts to growth, the ability to finance 10 to
12 million dollars of public amenities will be endangered. In addition, it
might be difficult to sell the bonds if the town has the reputation of being
unstable. Councilman Langmaid suggested that more support would be gained
if growth were stopped. Mr. Minger indicated that the question is not whether
growth is stopped, but how it is done; whether existing commitments are
honored. After some further discussion, Councilman White interpreted Mr..
Minger to mean, let the currently -planned building go ahead and the ordinance
take effect through normal procedures. Mr. Minger acknowledged that this
was correct with the addition that some changes should be made, like the
development fee. Councilman Staufer agreed, considering that developers
might be forced to East and West Vail by too sudden action and also that it
might endanger the Bighorn annexation. In further discussion, general agree-
ment was reached that an attempt should be made to purchase a portion of the
Hibberd lot, although this approach could not be used in other cases.
Councilman Donovan inquired as to the policy on phased projects if they attempt
to build the entire project this season so as to avoid the effects of the new
ordinance. Mayor Dobson did not see this as a possibility as the elements
of the new ordinance wilt be available in a relatively short time and it would
not be possible to review all stages this year, as it seems unrealistic for a
developer to expect approval three years in advance. Councilman Bailey
added that the approach being discussed would enable those developers with
phased projects to anticipate the rules that will apply to their latter stages.
Mr. Minger suggested that the Council should cutoff review of projects at
some point. Mayor Dobson noted that it is unlikely that any projects remain
to be reviewed for the forthcoming season. He added that a statement should
be issued stating that those people who have applied for a.permit or submitted
plans For review have to a certain time to finish. Beyond that date, any plans
Will be held for the new ordinance. Discussion ensued of what date would be
acceptable. Mr. Minger suggested that the new ordinance would be ready by
April 1; hence, this could be the cut off date and no other plans could be
reviewed after this date as the new ordinance is being reviewed. Councilman
Staufer proposed a motion which included an automatic disapproval if the
project required a variance. Councilman Bailey objected as he felt it was
singling out only one pbaject. In further discussion, Mayor Dobson proposed
that April 1 be the deadline for plans; that June I .be.the deadline for working
drawings. Councilman White moved that, plans received by April i wilt be
reviewed; after April 'I, all reviews will cease. He further moved that if the
project does not have an application for a building permit submitted by June 1
(having been reviewed by April 1) they will not come under the old .,,ordinance.
Councilman Donovan seconded; Councilmen White, Bailey, Donovan, Staufer,
Steinberg and Dobson voted in favor,•'Couhcilman Langmaid voted against; the
motion carried.
There was general agreement that an ordinance establishing a recreational
fee should be passed before approval is given to any of the projects. The
facilities for which it should be used and the types of construction which
should pay were further discussed. Mr. Robinson noted that it would be
difficult to tie the fee to the occupancy permit as the issuance of a building
permit implies that the occupancy permit will Follow if the building code has
been followed. There was general agreement that the credit should be considered
and the fee should be $1 .00 per square foot. The staff was instructed to draft
the ordinance.
As there was no further business, the meeting adjourned at 4:15 p. m.