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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1975-04-21 Town Council MinutesLOCAL GOVERNMENT MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS Deaver 0ffice // 1740 Williams Street / Denver, Colorado 80218 / Phone [303] 399-7053 Vail Office // P.O, Box 82 / Vail, Colorado 81657 / Phone [3031827-5274 April 7, 1975 President & Board of Directors Vail Fire Protection District C/o Terrell Minger Town of Vail Vail, Colorado 81657 'Re: Lion's Ridge Gentlemen: With the Fire Protection Study complete and the favorable response from the Insurance Services office (dated February 20, 1975), the Lion's Ridge Water District is eager to pursue inclusion. We would appreciate the opportunity to meet and discuss these matters with you. The Fire Study accurately states the situation in Lion',s Ridge. The water system is in very good condition except for its dependence upon electricity. The I.S.O. analysis reflects this also - allocating a class 6 rating upon • inclusion to the Vail Fire Protection District and the installation of an interconnection. Lion's Ridge has budgeted monies sufficient to install the $23,000 inter- connection, and is ready to proceed pending approval from the Vail Water and Sanitation District. Also the District is ready and willing to do everything within its power to perpetuate annexation to the Town of Vail and Vail Recreation District. As we have indicated previously, we await your direction. We believe that inclusion, and the accompanying revenue would be beneficial to the Vail Fire Protection District. We believe the interconnection of water systems would also be of benefit to the Vail Water and Sanitation District as a backup supply in event of emergency. Now that the Reports and Analyses are in, we are anxious to proceed. We hope to meet with you soon. Sincerely, LION'S GE W DISTRICT ames P. Col ins Lyon, Collins & Co., Inc. DISTRICT MANAGER cc: Ed Drager Tom Grimshaw Mike Carlisle MINUTES JOINT MEETING: TOWN COUNCIL BOARD OF DIRECTORS/VAIL METROPOLITAN RECREATION DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS/VAIL FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS/VAIL WATER AND SANITATION DISTRICT APRIL 21, 1975 A special joint meeting of the Town Council, the Board of Directors of the Vail Metropolitan Recreation District, the Board of Directors of the Vail Fire Protection District, and the Board of Directors of the Vail water and Sanitation District was held in conjunction with a special meeting of the Town Council at 2:00 P.M. on Monday, April 21, 1975, in the Council Chambers of the Vail Municipal Building. Mayor John Dobson and the following Council members were present: Josef Staufer John Donovan Kathy Klug Joseph Langmaid Jim Slevin The following members of the Board of Directors of the Vail Metropolitan Recreation District were present: Ted Kindel Dick Peterson Chairman Joseph Langmaid and the following members of the Board of�.•Directors of the Vail Fire Protection District were present: Ted Kindel Larry Burdick Gerry Hoyt Chairman Larry Burdick and the following members of the Board of Directors of'the Vail Water and Sanitation District were present: Dick Elias '• Josef Staufer Gerry Hoyt Ted Kindel Also present were: Bob Manzanares, Administrative Assistant Kent Rose, Town Engineer Mr. Manzanares explained the letter submitted by the Lions Ridge area to the Council and the special districts, expressing a desire to be considered for annexation to the Town and inclusion within each of the districts.. He also explained that the ISO has indicated in writing that the Lions Ridge area is qualified to receive a 6 insurance rating if it joins the Vail Fire Protection District. Mr. Manzanares also stated that the purpose of the special joint meeting is to establish a policy for all future annexations and inclusions. Mayor Dobson stated that past policy has been to conduct simul- taneous inclusions were possible but that such has not always been possible regarding the Water & Sanitation District because of technical problems. Councilman Langmaid stated that his under- standing of the inclusion policy has been that areas must first annex to the Town of Vail before being considered for inclusion within the special districts in order to avoid having areas join'the districts in order to receive those services without . , annexing to the Town in order to receive those controls. Mr. Rose outlined on the Town map those areas which the Town staff feels could be considered for annexation at this time, including: the McAllister property, Lions Ridge, the Valley, 3 50-acre parcels on the South side of Interstate 70, and the area West of Lions Ridge down to the Safeway store, He felt that annexing just the Lions Ridge area would leave a small -contiguous boundary, making the annexation of the Western por- tion of the Gore Valley more time consuming - requiring more elections. Mr. Kindel stated that he had heard of a developer in the Vail das Schone area who has promised his purchasers that he is holding a strip of land large enough to prevent the .Town from annexing that area. It was the feeling of both the Council and Mr. Rose that it is not possible to block an annex- ation in such a manner. Bill Wilto, an East Vail resident, expressed the wish that the' Town work on consolidating the fire, water and recreation ser- vices in the East Vail area before moving West to annex additional territory. Mr. Kindel voiced the Recreation District's hopes to include the entire Gore Valley within its boundaries in order to take advan- tage of ail additional tax base. Mayor Dobson asked what incen- tive there was for an area to join the Rec. District. Mr. Kindel explained the District's tentative plan to increase the rate differential for recreation passes (golf and tennis). The Mayor was -concerned that a valley -wide recreation district would be spread too thin. Mr. Kindel stated that there was no room.in the valley for a second golf course, but that more tennis courts could be built and that possibly the Rec. District could control stream quality in the valley -for better fishing. Councilwoman Klug was concerned that a greater rate differential would prohibit the employees from buying passes. Mr. Peterson explained that there would be no distinction between a property owner and a resident of an area as far as ability to buy a recreation pass was concerned; the rate would be the same as long as a person lived within the District boundaries. Councilman Donovan added that there is also an alternate facility available now with the development of Grouse Mountain. Mr. Kindel added that the Recre- ation District should be treated somewhat independently of the Town and the other special districts. He felt that there would be no loss of leverage by the Town if the Rec. District included the whole valley, as there might be if one of the other districts included the whole valley. Mr -Elias stated that limiting the special districts' boundaries to those of the Town would limit the ability of the districts to offer their services, and he favored keeping the districts separ- ate from the Town. Mr. Kindel further mentioned the possibility of extending the Recreation District as far as Minturn, thereby lowering the pass prices for the whole area, but he agreed that the District would have to research whether or not Minturn has a large enough tax base. Mayor Dobson stated that it may be a desirable thing for the Recreation District to include the whole valley, but mentioned that the other special districts are needed as leverage to induce areas to annex to the Town. Mr. Kindel noted that inclusions to the Fire District might be limited because of the need to keep the insurance rating at 6 and that areas which might imperil that rating would not be desirable. Mr. Donovan added that the fire insurance rating is dependent • upon the water storage and facilities of an area. Mr. Burdick stated that it has been the policy of the Water and Sanitation District to require.areas requesting inclusion within the District to annex to the Town and to the other districts as well. Mr. Langmaid explained the Bighorn Water District's desire to consolidate with the Vail Water & Sanitation District and agreed I with Mr. Wilto that the Town should concentrate on bringing the • Bighorn area of the Town into the special districts. The Mayor.returned to the question of the Recreation District. He asked how much, additional revenue the District could expect if it included the entire valley. Mr. Bernstein stated that the District is now receiving around $90,000 in tax revenue and that if it included the whole valley, it would receive an addi- tional $50,000 approximately. Mayor Dobson then asked if the District expected its resident pass rates to change very much. Mr. Kindel stated that the Board had not yet discussed future pass rates. Mr. Manzanares returned to the question of annexing the Lions Ridge area. He stated that the area meets all the requirements set forth for inclusion into all the special districts and for annexation to the Town and that the Town needs to respond to the area's request. Mayor Dobson stated that if all the require- ments are met, then the Town must encourage Lions Ridge to Petition for annexation and for inclusion into the special dis- tricts. Mr. Langmaid stated that the Fire District would accept the.Lions Ridge area as long as it annexed to the Town simultan- eously. Mr. Hoyt stressed the'need to effect the whole annexa- tion -inclusion package simultaneously. He stated that people petitioning for annexation to the Town expect to receive all municipal services, such as fire and water. Mr. Burdick, speak- ing for the Water & Sanitation District, stated that Lions Ridge's only technical problem regarding inclusion within his district is the lack of an interconnection between their district.and the Town's. He also stated that the interconnection could be taken care of and the area included within the Vail Water & San. Dist. soon. Mr. Langmaid suggested having a Town annexation election for Lions Ridge first, then the special district elections. Mayor Dobson felt that would be too unwieldy and suggested that perhaps the special district concept was outdated as far as Vail is con- cerned. He felt that the special district functions should be proper municipal functions and suggested discussing the possible dissolution of the districts. Mr. Kindel agreed and suggested setting up another joint meeting in June to discuss the idea. At that point Mayor Dobson polled the Council for its feelings regarding the annexation of the Lions Ridge area to the Town. The feeling was unanimously in favor of telling Lions Ridge to pursue the annexation and subsequent inclusions. Mr. Manzanares was instructed to notify Lions Ridge of the Council's and the Boards' approval. With no further business, the joint meeting was adjourned at 4:30 P.M. Secretary of the Board Vail Metropolitan Recreation Dist. Vail Fire Protection Dist. Vail Water & Sanitation Dist. 0 • MINUTES SPECIAL MEETING TOWN COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF VAIL APRIL 21, 1975 A special meeting of the Town Council of the Town of Vail convened at 2:15 P.M. on Monday, April 21, 1975, in the Council Chambers of the Vail Municipal Building. Mayor John Dobson and the following.councilmembers were present: Josef Staufer John Donovan Kathleen Klug Joseph Langmaid James Slevin Also present were: Terrell J. Minger, Town Manager Mayor Dobson opened the meeting by.explaining the need for calling a special meeting, stating that there will be no quorum until June. With regard to the reconsideration of Mery Lapin's expired variance, Jim Lamont gave a brief explanation of what had. been previously granted to Lapin; Ron Todd, Lapin's archi_ tect, then explained to the Council the set back and bulk control requirements - all of which are met - and which were set by the Planning Commission. ➢ouglas.McLaughlin, representing the Village Market,was present to make a state- ment regarding the loading and unloading of trucks for delivery to the Market, and the joint parking access to both Lapin's building and the Market; McLaughlin stated that he had to, in the interest of his client, oppose the granting of the variance unless these two problems were solved. Lapin and McLaughlin brought the following state- ment to the Council: "Both parties agree that excavation of the Northwest corner would be done first, and a minimum of 15' clearance will be maintained for the east side loading of Crossroads I Building." As Planning Commission was then needed, members deliberated and approved the Lapin project, thus formulating formal approval, and referred the matter to the Town Council to be acted upon. Mayor Dobson stated that with the approval of both Design Review Board and the Planning Commission regarding the Lapin project, he would entertain a motion to grant the variance including the addendum. Councilman Staufer moved to approve the variance; Councilwoman Klug seconded the motion; the vote was unanimous in favor; and the motion carried. REPORTS FROM THE TOWN MANAGER Mr. Minger reported that the school site closing would take place within the next week, that plans are firm, and the price is set at $220,000. He commented that negotiations for the additional acre were improbable and not to be pursued at this time. • Minutes Special Meeting April 21, 1975 Page 2 • The Town Council authorized the town manager to enter into negotiations with the Vail Resort Association regarding office space in the Transportation Center, not to exceed 3,500 square feet, on level three, and not to exceed a cost of $50,000, to be paid back over a period of time, not yet established. The architects had not had the time to estimate this type of proposal, they will do this in the near future, and report back to the Council. Mr. Minger reported on the negotiations with the Theatrical Corporation of America, commenting that details are firmed up and the contract would be signed today. Included in the project are a one -hour television special, filming to begin in June and August, in the. -fall and December...' The Special will be released in January or February, then cut into two one-half hour specials and be released. Regarding the Antholz project and the recent architect public meeting, Mr. Minger assured the public and the Town Council that the project will not be just a sports facility. Cultural and artistic programs will be offered in addition to the athletic programs. He re -capped some ideas the architects and design .team produced as to how to best fill the space of the Antholz.project, such as an ice arena, seating approximately 4,000, with good acoustics and the option to cover the ice and hold an occasional concert. Such activities could include the Denver Symphony, a special meeting, or a major exhibition; pool; complete health center; youth services; babysitting; all of this tied into the center with a small, open-air type of restaurant, to carry out the catalytic theme. The approximate cost for the project will be $7 million. The next order of business pertained to a joint session of the Vail Metropolitan Recreation District, the Vail Fire Protection District, and the Vail Water and Sanitation District, discussing annexation and inclusion policies; with specific regard to Lion's Ridge Water District, seeking inclusion into the Vail Fire Protection District. Please. note attached minutes of the Joint Session. The next order of.business was in regard to the discussion and review of the 1974 Town of Vail Audit. The Council decided to table discussion on this matter until June, when all members can study and evaluate the findings of the 1974 audit. As there was no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 4:15 P.M. ATTEST: '&/ - Jl�'A eputy Town Clerk C1 Mayor MINUTES JOINT MEETING: TOWN COUNCIL BOARD OF DIRECTORS/VAIL METROPOLITAN RECREATION DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS/VAIL FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS/VAIL WATER AND SANITATION DISTRICT APRIL 21, 1975 A special joint meeting of the Town Council, the Board of Directors of the Vail Metropolitan Recreation District, the Board of Directors of the Vail Fire Protection District, and the Board of Directors of the Vail Water and Sanitation District was held in conjunction with a special meeting of the Town Council at 2:00 P.M. on Monday, April 21, 1975, in the Council Chambers of the Vail Municipal Building. Mayor John Dobson and the following Council members were present: Josef Staufer John Donovan • Kathy Klug Joseph Langmaid Jim Slevin The following members of the Board of Directors of the Vail Metropolitan Recreation District were present: Ted Kindel Dick Peterson Chairman Joseph Langmaid and the following members of the Board ofa-Directors of the Vail Fire Protection District were present: Ted Kindel Larry Burdick Gerry Hoyt Chairman Larry Burdick and the.following members of the Board of Directors of the Vail Water and Sanitation District were present: Dick Elias • Josef, Staufer Gerry Hoyt Ted Kindel Also present were: Bob Manzanares, Administrative Assistant Kent Rose, Town Engineer Mr. Manzanares explained the letter submitted by the Lions Ridge area to the Council and the special districts, expressing a desire to be considered for annexation to the Town and inclusion within each of the districts. He also explained that the ISO has indicated in writing that the Lions Ridge area is qualified to receive a 6 insurance rating if it joins the Vail Fire Protection District. Mr. Manzanares also stated that the purpose of the special joint meeting is to establish a policy for all future annexations and inclusions. Mayor Dobson stated that past policy has been to conduct simul- taneous inclusions were possible but that such has not always been possible regarding the Water & Sanitation District because of technical problems. Councilman Langmaid stated that his under- standing of the inclusion policy has been that areas must first annex to the Town of Vail before being considered for inclusion within the special districts in order to avoid having areas join the districts in order to receive those services without Annexing to the Town in order to receive those controls. Mr. Rose outlined on the Town map those areas which the Town staff feels could be considered for annexation at this time, including: the McAllister property, Lions Ridge, the Valley, 3 50-acre parcels on the South side of Interstate 70, and the area West of Lions Ridge down to the Safeway store. He felt that annexing just the Lions Ridge area would leave a small contiguous boundary, making the annexation of the Western por- tion of the Gore Valley more time consuming - requiring more elections. Mr. Kindel stated that he had heard of a developer in the Vail das Schone area who has promised his purchasers that he is holding a strip of land large enough to prevent the Town from annexing that area. It was the feeling of both the Council and Mr. Rose that it is not possible to block an annex- ation in such a manner. Bill Wilto, an East Vail resident, expressed the wish that the Town work on consolidating the fire, water and recreation ser- vices in the East Vail area before moving West to annex additional territory. • Mr. Kindel voiced the Recreation District's hopes to include the entire Gore Valley within its boundaries in order to take advan- tage of an additional tax base. Mayor Dobson asked what incen- tive there was for an area to join the Rec. District, Mr. Kindel explained the District's tentative plan to increase the rate differential for recreation passes (golf and tennis). The Mayor was concerned that a valley -wide recreation district would be spread too thin. Mr. Kindel stated that there was no room -in the valley for a second golf course, but that more tennis courts could be built and that possibly the Rec. District could control stream.quality in the valley for better fishing. Councilwoman Klug was concerned that a greater rate differential would prohibit the employees from buying passes. Mr. Peterson explained that there would be no distinction between a property owner and a resident of an area as far as ability to buy a recreation pass was concerned; the rate would be the same as long as a person lived within the District boundaries. Councilman Donovan added that there is also an alternate facility available now with the development of Grouse Mountain. Mr. Kindel added that the Recre- ation District should be treated somewhat independently of the • Town and the other special districts. He felt that there would be no loss of leverage by the Town if the Rec. District included the whole valley, as there might be if one of the other districts included the whole valley. Mr. Elias stated that limiting the special districts' boundaries to those of the Town would limit the ability of the districts to offer their services, and he favored keeping the districts separ- ate from the Town. Mr. Kindel further mentioned the possibility of extending the Recreation District as far as Minturn, thereby lowering the pass prices for the whole area, but he agreed that the District would have to research whether or not Minturn has a large enough tax base. Mayor Dobson stated that it may be a desirable thing for the Recreation District to include the whole valley, but mentioned that the other special districts are needed as leverage to induce areas to annex to the Town. Mr. Kindel noted that inclusions to the Fire District might be limited because of the need to keep the insurance rating at 6 and that areas which might imperil that rating would not be desirable. Mr. Donovan added that the fire insurance rating is dependent upon the water storage and facilities of an area. Mr. Burdick stated thatit has been the policy of the Water and Sanitation District to require.areas requesting inclusion within the District to annex to the Town and to the other districts as well. Mr. Langmaid explained the Bighorn Water District's desire to consolidate with the Vail Water & Sanitation District and agreed with Mr. Wilto that the Town should concentrate on bringing the Bighorn area of the Town into the special districts. The Mayor returned to the question of the Recreation District. He asked how much additional revenue the District could expect if it included the entire valley. Mr. Bernstein stated that the District is now receiving around $90,000 in tax revenue and that if it included the whole valley, it would receive an addi- tional $50,000 approximately. Mayor Dobson then asked if the District expected its resident pass rates to change very much. Mr. Kindel stated that the Board had not yet discussed future pass rates. Mr. Manzanares returned to the question of annexing the Lions Ridge area. He stated that the area meets all the requirements set forth for inclusion into all the special districts and for annexation to the Town and that the Town needs to respond to the area's request. Mayor Dobson stated that if all the require- ments are met, then the Town must encourage Lions Ridge to petition for annexation and for inclusion into the special dis- tricts.; Mr. Langmaid stated that the Fire District would accept the Lions Ridge area as long as it annexed to the Town simultan- eously. Mr. Hoyt stressed the need to effect the whole annexa- tion -inclusion package simultaneously. He stated that people petitioning for annexation to the Town expect to receive all municipal services, such as fire and water. Mr. Burdick, speak- ing for the Water & Sanitation District, stated that Lions Ridge's only technical problem regarding inclusion within his district is the lack of an interconnection between their district and the Town's. He also stated that the interconnection could be taken care of and the area included within the Vail Water & San. Dist. soon. Mr. Langmaid suggested having a Town annexation election for Lions Ridge first, then the special district elections. Mayor Dobson felt that would be too unwieldy and suggested that perhaps the special district concept was outdated as far as Vail is con- cerned. He felt that the special district functions should be proper municipal functions and suggested discussing the possible dissolution of the districts. Mr. Kindel agreed and suggested setting up another joint meeting in June to discuss the idea. • At that point Mayor Dobson polled the Council for its feelings regarding the annexation of the Lions Ridge area to the Town. The feeling was unanimously in favor of telling Lions Ridge to pursue the annexation and subsequent inclusions. Mr. Manzanares was instructed to notify Lions Ridge of the Council's and the Boards' approval. With no further business, the joint meeting was adjourned at 4:30 P.M. Secretary of the Board Vail Metropolitan Recreation Dist. Vail Fire Protection Dist. Vail Water & Sanitation Dist. NO of Vailly box 100 vail, Colorado $1657 (303) 476-5613 Town Council Town of Vail, Colorado, P. 0. BOX 100 Vail, Colorado 81657 office of the town attorney May 7, 1975 Re: Town Council regular meetings in May 1975 Gentlemen and Ms. Klug: As you know Section 4.1 requires at least two regular council meetings each month without providing any exception thereto. To satisfy the Charter requirement a regular meeting was held on May 6, 1975, at 7:30 P.M. Only Ms. Klug attended the May 6th meeting since Messrs. Dobson, Langmaid, Slevin, and Staufer were away from Vail, being I understand in Arizona, Maui London, and Jamaica respectively. Mr. Donovan informed me on May 6th that he could not attend the meeting on account of personal bus- iness and Dr. Steinberg was likewise unable to attend. Even if Mr. Donovan and Dr. Steinberg had attended the May 6th meeting, a quorum would not have existed. At the meeting in addition to my regular duties I acted for the Town Manager since both he and the Assistant Town Manager are also out of town and as Deputy Town Clerk. The meeting was called to order, Ms. Klug stated the reasons for the absence of the other council members, and I read section 4.4 of the Charter, thereby indicating that the council could not conduct any business at the meeting due to the lack of a quorum of four members, and accordingly Ms. Klug adjourned the meeting to the date of the next regular meeting, May 20, 1975, at 7:30 P.M. It appears that four or more council members will also be absent from the jurisdiction on May 20, 1975, such that business cannot be conducted in the meeting on that date. Nevertheless that meet- ing must be held. I will not attend the May 20th meeting as I will be in New 'York, New York, on that date on my vacation. Ms. Klug assured me that she will be in Vail and will attend the May 20th meeting, handling it similarly to the May 6th meeting in the, event there is the lack of a quorum. Naturally, any other members Town Council May 7, 1975 Page 2 • who are in town then should attend the May 20th meeting unless they have good cause which precludes their attendance. If four members were to be able to attend the meeting on May 20th, bus- iness can be conducted, though in the absence of three members those present might consider it appropriate to defer delicate matters to a subsequent meeting which would be attended by all or most of the members. The Town Clerk will attend the May 20th council meeting as will either James F. Lamont or J. Robert Manzanares to operate the tape recorder. As far as I am aware the Town Manager will also attend that meeting. Copies hereof have been directed to each of them. 1 realize that it is some trouble to a number of persons, both council members and administrative employees, to have to attend the May 20th council meeting when it appears that there will not be a quorum and hence business cannot be conducted, but this is necessary in order for the council to comply with Section 4.1 of the Charter. Sincerely, Gene A. Smiti Town Attornew, GAS/sjm cc: (1) Mr. Terrell J. Minger, Town Manager (2) Mr. Stanley F. Bernstein, Finance Director/Assistant Town Manager �3) Ms. Rosalie Jeffrey, Town Clerk (4) Mr. James F. Lamont, Director, Department of Community Development • (5) Mr. J. Robert Manzanares, Administrative Assistant PUBLIC NOTICE SPECIAL JOINT MEETING NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN THAT THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL JOINT MEETING OF THE TOWN COUNCIL OF THE TOWN OF VAIL, COLORADO, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE VAIL FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE VAIL METROPOLITAN RECREATION DISTRICT, AND THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE VAIL WATER AND SANITATION DISTRICT ON MONDAY, APRIL 21, 1975, AT 2:00 P.M., IN THE VAIL MUNICIPAL • BUILDING FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING A GENERAL ANNEXATION AND INCLUSION POLICY FOR THE TOWN OF VAIL AND ALL SPECIAL DISTRICTS. DATED: This 17th day of April, 1975. bar wn of Vail, Colorado Sec tart' Vail Fire P o ction District Vail Metropolitan Recreation District Vail Water and Sanitation District