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REGULAR MEETING
VAIL TOWN COUNCIL
3 JANUARY, 1978
Ak_The regular meeting of the Town of Vail Council was convened at 7:40 P.M., on Tuesday,
January 3, 1978.
Present were Mayor Rodney Slifer and the following members of the Vail Town Council:
Paula Palmateer
. John Donovan ,
Thomas Steinberg
William Heimbach
William Wilto
Councilmember Ruder was absent.
Also present were Town Manager Terrell J. Minger and Town Attorney Lawrence Rider.
Mayor Slifer introduced Ordinance No. 29, Series of 1977, rezoning a portion of Vail Run
from Rc to SDD5, on second reading. He then introduced Zoning Administrator, Diana
Toughill who explained that there had been a slight change in Section 8, paragraph B, to
clarify language. There were no comments or questions from either the Council or the Floor,
and Councilman Heimbach moved to approve Ordinance No. 29, Series of 1977 on second
reading with the amendment in language to Section 8-B. Councilmen Donovan and Steinberg
voted "no". Councilmembers Palmateer, Heimbach, and Wilto voted in favor, and the motion
carried.
Next item on the agenda was a special presentation of service awards to members of the
Planning Commission and Design Review Board who had completed terms of service. Mayor
Slifer introduced former Mayor Dobson who thanked those who had served so faithfully and
diligently and awarded each of them a Slate placque with their names engraved with service
dates. Those receiving placques were: Robert Clark; Gordon Pierce; Dave Sage; Jen Wright;
Dave Gorsuch; Jim Slevin; Hans Weibel; Bill Hanlon; Jack Fritzlen; Dan Corcoran; Bill
Heimbach; and Bill Wilto; all of whom served on the Planning Commission. Carol Kramer was
awarded a placque for her service on the Design Review Board. Mayor Slifer then awarded
an identical placque to John Dobson for his long years of service on the Town Council.
Mayor Slifer then introduced Diana Toughill who explainedthat -th—s was the request from
Landmark which had been postponed�from the December 20, 1977; meeting regarding setback
and parking variances for the proposed Landmark addition. Jeff Selby, representing
Landmark, then requested the council to table the parking variances request for two weeks
and advised council that some modifications had been made since the first request for set-
back variances at the last council meeting. He covered the revisions and explained that
he believed that the addition to the building would greatly enhance the building and create
a warmer feeling in the Lionshead mall area around the stairs. Ms. Toughill added that the
Planning Commission had voted 6 to 1 in favor of granting the variances. Mayor Slifer then
asked for questions or comments from the Council and Audience. Ms. Linda Bird, from
Sunrise in Lionshead stated that she had no real objections to the project, except that she
felt that further construction in Lionshead would disrupt the summer business and that
Lionshead needed a good, viable summer. Mr. Selby stated that he too was interested in
• the area having a good summer and felt that this project would not interefere with the
mall area and would ultimately enhance the area.
Mr. Edward L. Volpe, representing Kostas Taverna, a business in the Landmark building,
stated that his client was opposed to the project totally and claims that the project
would be materially injurous to his client. Further stating that the view would be
destroyed and that the additions were being planned without the approval of the tennants.
Mr. Tom Antio, representing LaCadequ Boutique, stated that he has no real interest in the
project other than his objection to the construction in the area, which he feels would be
materially injurous to his business. Attorney Jay Peterson, speaking for Landmark, stated
that they would agree to build only one level of the proposed addition, if that would be
a fair compromise for those objecting. Mr. Volpe replied that since the application to
Council was in the form of two-storys then he would not consider compromising until the
formal application was revised.
Councilmember Donovan asked for clarification of the parking variance request postponement.
arry Rider stated that the Council cannot go beyond 21 days, but a client could waive the
1 day limit and specifically ask for a longer delay for hearing. Councilmember Donovan
then suggested to Mr. Selby that he consider asking for a longer postponement since
there were many things yet unknown about the project and its implications. Councilmembers
Steinberg and Palmateer expressed concern about the need for more study and questioning
before council makes any decision. Town Attorney Larry Rider cautioned and advised the
council that they must consider only the quesion of the variance request in terms of the
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number of feet, not in terms of the economic considerations which are outside the
parameters of what is described in the ordinances as criteria for consideration of
variance requests. Mayor slifer stated, for the record that the Town Council has seen
the site.
There was a brief discussion between Mr. Selby and some tennants regarding who in the
building supported the project. Mayor Slifer reminded the Council that they may con-
sider the variance only in terms of what the definitions are described in the ordinances.
He then asked for a motion to table the requests - Jeff Selby officially requested such
tableing; Councilman Donovan moved to table the requests for two weeks until the meeting
of January 17, 1978, and asked for a revised model of the project with a moveable second
floor to show what the relative differences would be. Councilmember Steinberg seconded
the motion; all present voted in favor and the motion passed.
Next item on the agenda was a request for final approval for the final plat of Glen Lyon.
Mayor Slifer introduced Andy Norris, speaking for the project outlined the entire
development briefly. Councilmember Palmateer asked how many people will be added by
this project; Mr. Norris estimates about 130 living units. Palmateer then asked about
parking questions and Mr. Norris suggested that perhaps extension of the shuttle bus
system could be justified. There was a brief discussion regarding dedication of green
space/open space lands being dedicated to the Town of Vail by this developer. Councilmember
Donovan then reminded the Council and the citizens that this project adds another 1,000
people to the valley and that growth management must be implemented. He feels that no
one seems to want to tackle the problem - but that it is certainly time to do so. There
was a brief general discussion regarding the growth management process. Following that,
Mayor Slifer asked for a Motion, which Larry Rider composed. The first motion was to
accept the dedication of the stream tract in the project, moved by Councilmember
Donovan and seconded by Councilmember Steinberg. All present voted in favor and the motion
carried.
The second motion was to approve and accept -the final plat itself and was made by Council
member Wilto, seconded by councilmember Heimbach. All present voted in favor and the
motion passed.
The third motion was to accept the dedication to the Town of Vail by the developer of
tracts A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,J and K. The motion was made by Councilmember Steinberg and
seconded by councilmember Wilto. All present voted in favor and the motion passed.
Mayor Slifer then introduced Ms. Toughilll who explained that Vail Associates was requesting
the resubdivision of Lot 2, Block 2, Vail Village 12th Filing, (a parcel of land located
near Booth Falls) to change zoning from LDMF. Phil Ordway, speaking for Vail Associates
stated that it was their feeling that this site should not include more than 4 units.
There being no further discussion, Councilmember Donovan moved to approve the resubdivision
subject to the rezoning approval on February 2, 1978. Councilmember Palmateer seconded
the motion, all present voted in favor and the motion passed.
Next for discussion and attention of the Council was the matter of the request for
assistance .to the Town of Vail from the Lionsridge Neighborhood Organization. Mayor
Slifer explained the history of the request and stated that Don Walker, consultant was
• evaluating the questions and that the council was considering the purchase of the land in
parcels B-4 and B-5. He further stated that although the parcels were not that important in
a valley wide sense, they were important to that particular neighborhood and that the
council requested the owners of the condominiums in the neighborhood to circulate and sign
a petition stating support of proposals to purchase the land with the town of Vail in a
50%/50% share of cost. He stated that there were many details to be worked out and that
a special district would probably have to be formed. But first, he wanted the petition
to be submitted from the propertyowners in the neighborhood. Larry Rider clarified for
the record that bhe buyers of the project would be subject to special district assessments
and that everyone should know that when they sign the petition. There was a brief
discussion among the council regarding where the funds would come from to pay the Town's
share of the purchase price. Stan Bernstein compared it to the handling of the Bighorn
street program and stated that he would investigate other means of funding.
The mext matter for council discussion was a presentation of the current parking situation
and a report of the parking study. Mayor Slifer introduced Allen Gerstenberger, Director
f Community Development, who explained the process of the parking study. The mayor then
introduced Phil Ordway, Vail Associates, who explained the current status of the restrictions
being placed on parking in the western most parking lots. Mr. Ordway apologized for some
confusion and lack of communication in the process of setting up the new parking rules,
and stated that anyone bearing local license plates who attempts to drive into Vail asso-
ciates lots during the day carrying less than three people, will be asked to park in the
western most areas set aside for employee parking. Anyone carrying more than three people
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will be allowed to park . He further stated that he believes the restrictions have
created at least 40 more parking spaces for visitors in those lionshead lots. He feels
that the program is fundamentally a good one and that most of the negative feedback is
due to poor communications. He further stated that this does not necessarily represent
Vail Associates' final solution to the problem, but that it is temporary and will be
• refined.
There was a brief, general discussion amoung the Council and the public regarding parking
problems in general, including suggestions from the Council and Vail Associates represen=
tatives that more employers and employees be encouraged to use the public transportation
available in the valley. Phil Ordway asked in any consideration was being given to
long range solutions like possibly special districts for parking, etc., and Terry Minger
stated that the council had not necessarily looked at that one but he would be happy to
sit down with Ordway to discuss and present to Council.
Mayor Slifer then introduced the next matter of business which was the status of the
proposed Gondola I Building expansion. Diana Toughill explained that the new.plans
submitted to the Town Staff had met a-1 the requirements and that the staff had approved
the project as currently submitted . There was a brief discussion as to the consideration
of eliminating the East access and moving it to the West. Mr. Ordway stated that Vail
Associates was considering that and felt that the Forest Service would probably grant
that right tot he Town of Vail, but probably not to Vail Associates, and that Vail Asso=
ciates would support a request for same by the Town of Vail.
Peter Burnett, Supervisor of Streets and Roads, cautioned council that buildings be of
such design to prevent possible snow overhand and icing. Council noted that the Design
review board would be looking at that. There was a brief discussion regarding use of
the patio area by Vail Institute and whether or not both buildings must be built. Council
member Donovan asked Mr. Ordway to put a price on building only the South building and
not the North building . Ordway pointed out that the project had been cut back as much
as possible and that they fully intended to build it, however, he would come up with a
figure.
The final item on the presentations agenda for the meeting was a public discussion of
the horse-drawn sleigh. Mayor Slifer introduced Steve Cadwell who operates a horse-
drawn sleigh and .haywagon. Mr. Cadwell gave a brief and entertaining history of his
personal experience in handling horses as a part of his request for permission to maintain
horse-drawn rides in the village core. He asked for permission to use gates, park in
the core areas and extended hours —for services and if it was possible to do forge work and
blacksmithing in the core of the village as an attraction.
There was a lengthy and detailed discussion between Mr. Cadwell, the Council, Chief of
Police, Gary Wall, Pete Burnett and the audience regarding multiple problems and possible
solutions which might allow Mr. Cadwell to continue to operate in the village. At the
conclusion of the discussion, Councilmember Donovan clarified the position of the council
as being: 1) he may not opente before 1O:00 aam, nor between the hours of 3-5:30 PM, and
not after 11:30 pm. 2) The wagon must be checked for safety and the insurance certificate
imust be received by the Town of.Vail. 3) He may drive both directions on Gore Creek Drive,
but not east of the Vorlaufernor either South or North on Bridge Street. 4) He must
comply with the dog ordinance and the forge & blacksmithing request is denied. 5) He may
operate on a trial basis for two weeks only from today. The matter will be discussed again
on the 17th of January. Councilman Donovan then moved that all this be agreed upon by the
Council. Councilmember Heimbach seconded the motion. Councilmember Steinberg voted against
and all others present voted in favor. The motion carried.
Councilman Heimbach then noted for the record that he wanted the council to move on the
growth management programs as soon as possible. Councilmember Donovan requested a meeting
in February for the express purpose of discussion of the real estate transfer tax and
an election for that question.
Councilmember Donovan then moved to adjaurn. Councilman Heimbach seconded the motion.
All present voted in favor and the motion passed. The mee adjourned at 10:45 PM.
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