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VAIL TOWN COUNCIL MEETING
AUGUST 2, 1988
7:30 P.M.
A regular meeting of the Vail Town Council was held on Tuesday, August 2, 1988, at
7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Vail Municipal Building.
MEMBERS PRESENT
MEMBERS ABSENT:
TOWN OFFICIALS PRESENT:
Kent Rose, Mayor
John Slevin, Mayor Pro Tam
Eric Affeldt
Mery Lapin
Gail Wahrlich-Lowenthal
Gordon Pierce
Tom Steinberg
None
Ron Phillips, Town Manager
Pam Brandmeyer, Town Clerk
The first order of business was a consent agenda consisting of:
Approval of the minutes from July 5 and 19, 1988 meetings.
B. Ordinance No. 20, Series of 1988, second reading, changing the hour of
9:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. for closing down amplified sound in the Core.
C. Ordinance No. 21, Series of 1988, second reading, repealing and reenacting
the Special Development Districts section of the Municipal Code.
Mayor Rose changed some wording in the July 5 minutes. At this time, Tom Steinberg
made a motion to approve the minutes, which Gordon Pierce seconded. A vote was
taken and the motion passed unanimously 7-0. Afterwards, Mayor Rose read the full
titles of the ordinances. Mayor Pro Tam Slevin asked Peter Patten what was
happening on Ordinance No. 21 regarding the underlying zoning, which Peter stated
the wording would stay as is until a later date. After some discussion by Council,
Peter commented the ordinance was to clean up and clarify some language so the
process is more understandable, with everything remaining the same. He then
clarified some issues for Council regarding the ordinance. Peter Jamar felt the
issue should be dealt with while it was fresh in everyone's minds; that it should
not be postponed for too long a time. At this time, Eric Affeldt made a motion to
approve Items B and C of the Consent Agenda, and Mayor Pro Tam Slevin seconded. A
vote was taken and the motion passed unanimously 7-0.
The next item on the agenda was Ordinance No. 22, Series of 1988, second reading,
amending the Municipal Code pertaining to parking fees charged for exempted areas.
Mayor Rose read the title in full. Peter Patten noted the dollar amount of the fee
had been changed from $10,000 to $8,000 as requested at first reading. Mayor Rose
gave background information regarding parking fees and how it got started. He
explained his concern over raising fees for developers, and in his opinion, the
funds should be raised by other means, i.e., increase taxes, increase sales tax 2%,
or whatever, to do what is needed for the town, but he would not vote for an
increase in the parking fee. Gordon Pierce agreed and commented he felt the
increase would not be worth it. Gail Wahrlich-Lowenthal stated that at the last
meeting she felt that $8,000 was fair and the Town should pass on its actual costs.
She noted she could understand the need for a parking study to find out who uses the
structures and that small additions have problems with the dollar amount. But she
was not comfortable with leaving the fee at the present figures, but may agree to
$6,000 instead of the $8,000. Mery Lapin questioned the equity of other areas
outside the Cores. Peter Patten responded with all were required to have physical
parking spaces or pay the fee. Jay Peterson commented on the differences between
the areas. Mery asked Jay to expand on the equities and noted his concerns of how
parking structures additions were to be paid for; Jay responded. Josef Staufer
stated the differences between Bridge Street and Crossroads. He also commented that
it cost approximately $12,000 to build a parking space, but he owned it, but those
in the parking fee do not get anything. He stated the $3,000 was a token amount to
help share the cost of parking in the future and if the fee is changed to $8,000, it
would only be fair to physically give parking space in the structures. Bob Fritch
commented on his perspective of the proposal and why he was against the increase.
Peter Jamar stated that parking was figured the same in the Village as it was in
West Vail which usually would not be done, explained why, and commented why he was
opposed to the increase. Jack Curtin explained why he was also against the
ordinance. Hermann Staufer agreed with Mayor Rose and explained that the fees had
been used for studies, etc. in the past, and were not ever used to build the parking
structures. He requested Council not to pass the ordinance. Sid Schultz commented
he felt it contradicted the Vail Master Plan and Urban Design Guide for Lionshead.
After more general discussion, Tom Steinberg made a motion to withdraw the ordinance
and reconsider after a parking study was completed; Mayor Pro Tem Slevin seconded.
Mayor Rose stated he would prefer a motion to approve or deny the ordinance on
second reading. Tom Steinberg then made a motion to deny the ordinance. There was
more discussion at this point by Josef Staufer, Paul Johnston, Pepi Gramshammer and
Council. Mayor Rose noted if the ordinance was denied, the fees would remain the
same as in the past. Mayor Pro Tem Slevin seconded the motion. A vote was taken
and the motion passed 5-2, with Eric Affeldt and Mery Lapin opposing.
The third item was Resolution No. 29, Series of 1988, regarding annexation of the
Ulbrich property to the Town of Vail. Ron Phillips stated the property was at the
west end of the Vail das Schone subdivision and part of Ulbrich's property was
annexed when the Vail das Schone annexation occurred. There was not sufficient
contiguity, however, to take all of the property at that time, and Mr. Ulbrich now
wants to annex the rest of it. Mery Lapin asked if Ulbrich was coming into the
Water District and the Vail Metropolitan Recreation District, which Jay Peterson
•responded yes, he was. Mery wanted to make the resolution conditional upon these
requirements. Jay commented that now was not appropriate, that this was only the
resolution setting the public hearing; the conditions should be included in the
ordinance required at a later date. A motion to approve the resolution was then
made by Mery Lapin and seconded by Gordon Pierce. A vote was taken and the motion
passed unanimously 7-0.
The next item of business was discussion of the Holy Cross parcel. Mery Lapin
stated because he had been in China when the item was originally brought up, he
wanted to discuss it again and to plan for the future. Al Weiss commented it was
inappropriate to reintroduce the proposition again, which Mayor Rose disagreed.
Mery clarified why it was reintroduced. Tom Steinberg noted he voted against it at
the first reading, did not vote at second reading, but at the following meeting
suggested the purchase be looked at for long term planning. Pepi Gramshammer agreed
with Al Weiss and suggested Council let it rest for awhile. An unknown citizen
questioned if the property was commercially developable by itself and was it
supported by the citizens. He did not feel it was. Al Weiss questioned that no
specific future use was mentioned and felt Council was using poor judgment. Peter
Jamar commended Council on looking into long range prudent planning to tie the land
up and keep their options open. He felt it made a lot of sense. Paul Johnston
agreed. Gordon Pierce stated this was just to reopen discussions on this parcel and
•felt it was very appropriate to discuss at this time. He felt Council had received
some good input tonight and the purchase was worth looking into. Mery Lapin noted
the property was also being looked at for possibly moving the fire station. Al
questioned if Council was planning to call a special meeting or hearing to discuss
this, which Mery responded yes. Mayor Rose stated he would prefer to deal with Holy
Cross first and then go back to the public with specific facts. Gordon Pierce and
Gail Wahrlich-Lowenthal agreed and requested staff to work on potential uses.
Council requested Ron Phillips to contact Holy Cross and begin negotiations.
The fifth order of business was the assignment of the Village Popcorn Wagon lease.
Ron Phillips gave brief background information on the item and noted Jan Buckley ran
the Lionshead Popcorn Wagon and wanted to take over the Village one. Mayor Rose
commented that Jan was doing a good job. There was no discussion by Council or the
public. Mery Lapin made a motion to approve the assignment, which Tom Steinberg
seconded. A vote was taken and the motion passed unanimously 7-0.
The next item was the presentation of the 1987 audited financial statements.
Charlie Wick introduced Steve Thompson and Jerry McMahan, who gave audit
information. Jerry commented the Town was in very solid financial condition and
that controls were good. He then answered questions from Council.
9 There was no Citizen Participation.
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There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kent'R. Rose, Mayor
ATTEST:
Pamela A.iran meyer, o lerk
Minutes taken by Brenda Chesman
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