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VAIL TOWN COUNCIL MEETING
MARCH 1, 1988
7:30 P.M.
A regular meeting of the Vail Town Council was held on Tuesday, March 1, 1988, at
7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of the Vail Municipal Building.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Kent Rose, Mayor
John Slevin, Mayor Pro Tem
Eric Affeldt
Mery Lapin
Gail Wahriich-Lowenthal
Gordon Pierce
Tom Steinberg
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
TOWN OFFICIALS PRESENT: Ron Phillips, Town Manager
Larry Eskwith, Town Attorney
Pam Brandmeyer, Town Clerk
The first order of business was approval of the minutes from the February 2 and 16,
1988 meetings. There was no discussion by Council or the public. Tom Steinberg
made a motion to approve the minutes as presented, which John Slevin seconded. A
vote was taken and the motion passed unanimously 7-0.
The next item was an appointment to the Local Liquor Licensing Authority Board.
Mayor Rose noted there was only one applicant, Bill Bishop. There was no other
discussion by Council or the public. A motion to appoint Bill Bishop to the Board
was made by Mery Lapin and seconded by Tom Steinberg. A vote was taken and the
motion passed unanimously 7-0.
The third order of business was Ordinance No. 6, Series of 1988, second reading,
amending the Vail Municipal Code regarding the Ski Base/Recreation Zone District.
Mayor Rose read the title in full. Rick Pylman noted changes made to the ordinance
from the first reading - Section 1, B 2, "Children's" ski school services and
programs and Section 2, paragraph 1, line 6, adding "With regard to the recreational
path relocation south of tennis courts 3-6, Sheet 3 shall be amended by Matthews
Associates Sheet L-1 dated February 8, 1988.". Larry Lichliter, Executive Vice
President of Mountain Operations, Vail Associates, stated he was there to support
the application; Vail Associates had agreed to the requirements specified by the
Council; and was requesting approval. Bill Sours; an owner in the Manor Vail
Condominium Association, also President of the Condo. Association and was
representing all the owners, and representing Northwoods and Howard Torgove,
President, stated they were in favor of the Children's Ski School, but had a problem
with the location. He requested Council postpone action on the ordinance for 30
days so the Association could work with Vail Associates on other possible sites. He
then read a letter to Council from Kit Cowperthwaite against approval of the
ordinance. Dave Schnegelberger, Manager of All Seasons Condominium Association,
stated all its owners were in agreement with Sours' statement. Bob Buckley, a
resident of Vail and employee of Vail Associates, gave reasons why he felt strongly
in favor of approval. Larry Lichliter gave concluding comments and urged Council to
pass the ordinance. Bill Bours argued they wanted the Ski School, but not at that
location. Bob Buckley again supported his position in favor of the project. Nancy
Nottingham explained the criteria used when Vail Associates was planning the
location of the building and remarked the opposition was a surprise to her. Chris
Ryman, Director of Vail/Beaver Creek Ski School, supported Nancy, and noted they had
spent a lot of time and energy to resolve the situation, and if it could not be done
now, the schedule would fall behind. Elaine Kelton was for the Ski School, but that
green space was ultimately important. Paul Johnston made remarks about children
being safe in Vail and urged Council to move ahead. Dan Corcoran felt there were
good points on both sides, but the problems should be resolved by the property
owners, not Council. He felt Council should approve it on the merit of the center
and let the other issues be resolved in a different arena. Larry Lichliter stated
if the ordinance was approved, Vail Associates would work with the neighborhood to
work out the problems. He then answered questions from Council. Jack Hunn, Project
Manager, Vail Associates, explained why he was not in favor of waiting 30 days and
urged Council to take action. Bill Bours gave additional comments. Peter Patten
and Larry Lichliter answered questions from Council. Jack Hunn responded to a
proposal by Bill Bours. At this time, Eric Affeldt made a motion to approve the
ordinance including the changes noted by Rick Pylman, and John Slevin seconded the
motion. A vote was taken and the motion passed unanimously 7-0.
The next item was Ordinance No. 7, Series of 1988, first reading, rezoning Tract E-1
from Agricultural/Open Space to Ski Base Recreation, and establishing Special
Development District No. 20 on Tract E-1 and Lots A and B, Block 2, Vail Village
First Filing. Mayor Rose read the full title. Tom Braun stated the ordinance
required three separate actions - 1) a minor subdivision, 2) exterior alteration
review and 3) rezoning with the SDD No. 20. Ron Riley, heading the efforts of the
project, gave background information on the project. Peter Jamar and John Perkins
gave a slide presentation on existing conditions, proposed plans and discussion of
Tract E - the Golden Peak House redevelopment and the Village ski base facility.
Peter Jamar then reviewed the twelve conditions - the six already in the ordinance
and the six additional recommended by the Planning and Environmental Commission. He
then reviewed these recommended conditions and explained their intentions. Tom
Braun presented the staff's position and explained why staff recommended approval.
Peter Patten spoke about rezoning and changed circumstances, consistency with the
land use plan, and this project would be the last step in the remodeling of Vail
Village. Jack Tweedy made a statement on the initial intent of the founding fathers
and noted he agreed with all the plans except not to build on the green belt or
build underground. Howard Head stated he felt the older property owners in the area
did not want the project and gave his reasons why. Ellie Caukins and Howard
Berkowitz explained why they were against the project. Greta Parks read a letter
she had written to the Council in opposition to the project. Frankie Tang agreed
with the plans for the Golden Peak House, but on a smaller scale. Joe Staufer
questioned the zoning and SDD. John Trtanj, who has a business in the Golden Peak
House, the Sportsstalker, stated he does well and will continue to do well, and did
not understand why people were blocking this project. He felt that everyone had to
look at the community and not be selfish, and gave his reasons why he supported the
project. Teak Simonett, manager of Vail Ski Rentals, presented photographs of
delivery trucks in the area to Council and stated why she was opposed to the
project. Gordon Brittan stated he was against the use of open space. Bill Wilto
explained he supported the redevelopment of the Golden Peak House, that conditions
have changed; agreed to the need to use open space for skier space, and the deck
area would be for the public, so all in all, he endorsed the project. Harry
Frampton explained that zoning and planning were not an exact science and that he
supported the project because the benefits outweighed the problems. Ray Kelley read
a letter he wrote to the Council opposing the project. Fred Greene stated the
Council had to deal with the concept of change, and that Council should not let the
issue of open space be the deciding point. Andy Norris explained he was concerned
about the capability to handle visiting skiers, that the Vista Bahn area would have
to be able to accommodate them, and that the compromises were acceptable. Hadley
Cox, an owner in the Golden Peak House, stated he did not like the encroachment,
that it would hinder family life; he was in favor of the upgrade of the Golden Peak
House, noted his concern of the ski area, and requested the rezoning not be done.
Dick Georgie, an owner in the Golden Peak House, was not in favor of the deck or
underground buildings, but did like the remodeling plans for the Golden Peak House.
Paul Johnston addressed some problems brought up, noted he strongly supported the
plans, and read a letter from Linda and Berry Craddock in support of the project.
Dan Corcoran stated he felt this was an opportunity to get the base facilities
needed and to remodel the Golden Peak House; it was a good proposal in the best
spot, and he hoped it would be approved. Jack Curtin, representing Mrs. Hill, spoke
about open space and zoning and why they were against the project. Pepi Gramshammer
gave his reasons why he was against the project. Tom Ragonetti, an attorney
representing several residents in the area, felt the majority of comments stated the
facility was needed, but was not in the right place; there would be a problem with
the increase in traffic, parking and more noise; and it would be an incompatible use
with what was around it. Sarah Rockwell, an associate of Mr. Ragonetti's, noted two
procedural irregularities which seemed important. Peter Jamar and Tom Braun
responded. Paul Johnston noted that 85% of the Golden Peak House residents had
approved the remodeling. Dan Minzer stated that 100% of the first mortgage lenders
also had to approve the plans. Jerry Parmin, owner of Vail Village Sports,
supported the project. After much more discussion by Council, Eric Affeldt made a
motion to deny the ordinance, which was seconded by Mery Lapin. A vote was taken
and the motion failed 2-5, with John Slevin, Gail Wahrlich-Lowenthal, Tom Steinberg,
Mayor Rose and Gordon Pierce opposing. Another motion was made by Tom Steinberg to
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approve the ordinance with all the additional conditions requested by the Planning
and Environmental Commission, except item No. 2, as stated in the memorandum from
the Community Development Department to Town Council dated March 1, 1988. John
Slevin seconded the motion. A vote was taken and the motion passed 5-2, with Mery
Lapin and Eric Affeldt opposing. It was decided that Council would take a site
visit to the Golden Peak House and the Los Amigos deck area to review the areas.
The fifth order of business was Resolution No. 5, Series of 1988, adopting the Town
of Vail Transit Development Plan Update 1988-1992. Ron Phillips gave a brief
explanation as to what the plan update would do. Stan Berryman gave additional
information. Eric Affeldt made a motion to approve the resolution as submitted,
which Gail Wahrlich-Lowenthal seconded. A vote was taken and the motion passed
unanimously 7-0.
There was no Citizen Participation.
There was no Town Manager's Report.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 2:05 a.m.
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ATTEST:
Pamela A. Brandmeyer, i'own Clerk
Minutes taken by Brenda Chesman
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Respectfully submitted,
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ent R. Rose, Mayor
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Craddock
Development Company
1670 N. Newport Road, (P,O. Box 17000 80935-7000), Colorado Springs, Colorado 80916 (303) 637-4000
February 26, 1988
City Council
75 s. Frontage Road
Vail, Colorado 81657
Re- Golden Peak
Expansion
Dear Council:
Linda and I are sorry we can't appear at your Tuesdw� meeting.in person to
voice our opinion and give you our input on Ron Riley's proposed upgrading and
remodeling plans for the Gold Peak House.
First of all I would like to say we are strongly in favor of the plan as
submitted and in all likelyhood the project impacts our house at Lot 1, Block 1,
Vail Filing #1 (325 Millcreek Circle) the most of any one individual owner except
perhaps Cristy Hill.
We have been and continue to be long term supporters and part time residents
of Vail. We have invested in and enjoyed Vail for over 20 years. We do that
because of the "Vail Experience."
In recent years the town as we knew it 20 years ago has matured and improved
and that improvement comes at a price. In short, we've looked at the economics
of the project and unless Ron's project or one like it is approved the renovation
will never take place. The developer is putting 'rat risk" a good deal of money to
put the base area into a configuration to benefit the "entire " town and bring
back the "Vail Experience" to our visitors. The impact on the common areas is
minimum and in fact upgrades the area immensly.
William D. Poynor
5258 Birdwood
Houston, Texas 77096
Telephone (713) 666-4551
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Mr. Peter Patton
Director of Community Planning
Town of Vail, Colorado
Gentlemen:
As owner of Golden Peak House Unit No. 203, my wife and I
want to express our wholehearted support for the plan as
proposed to the Planning Commission on January 25, 1988, when I
publicly voiced the same.
I have been informed that at the subsequent meeting on
February 9, 1988, one of the owners, Mr. Dick Georgi, stated
publicly that he spoke for 46% of the owners (or all the non -Ron
Riley) interests in Golden Peak House. This is not the case.
Mr. Georgi with 4% and Mr. Curtain with 2% are the only ones
• among the condominium owners to voice reservations about this
plan publicly, and Mr. Curtain, although the owner of a unit in
GPH, in reality more truly represents the view of an outsider,
speaking as manager and part owner of the Hill Building across
the pathway to the northwest of GPH.
In addition to my 2% interest, I know Mr. & Mrs. Valentine,
who hold 9% interest, also spoke in strong support of the
proposed plan at the January 25th meeting, for a total of 65% of
the interest in strong support. It is my understanding or
impression that almost all of the remaining 29% has a more
middle -ground position, expressing reservations about some
features of the plan, but in general, in agreement with it.
The plan as initially proposed is very good for the town of
Vail because:
1. The renovation of Golden Peak House will correct a
glaring visual deficiency right at the foot of the
premier lift facility in the U.S. (i.e., the Vista
Bahn).
2. Sorely needed base facilities for skiers will be
provided at the only feasible ski-in/ski-out location in
Vail with the plus of being at the Vista Bahn.
3. The proposed limited use ski -base facility will be below
ground and will not take-up any green space and will
make virtually no change to the present landscape or
• views.
4. The use limitations for space initially in the
underground facility as initially proposed are quite
reasonable and should not be further restricted.
5. The existing deck behind Los Amigos is presently very
small, so some expansion is in order. The scope as
requested seems to be the focus of some opposition. A
minimum expansion to 2500 sq. ft. should be granted.
Support of the plan as discussed above is definitely good for
Vail and fair to everyone involved and deserves the support of
all governing bodies in Vail.
• WDP:ds
Very truly yours,
William D. Poynor,
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SOFTBALL COUNTRY CLUB
t Atlanta I{oustOn
l.owcll Doughs, Owner
February 17, 1988
Town Planning
75 South Frontage Rd.
Vail, CO 81657
Re: Golden Peak House Renovations
Dear Sirs:
Let it be understood that Mr. Ron Riley emphatically
speaks for my ownership of unit #208 in the Golden
Peak House of Vail. Ron has given us excellent
ideas and forsight into the needs of our particular
structure.
We and Vail need the newly designed plans done by
Mr. Riley completed to insure a safe and secure
building. The new visual appearance will also
significantly improve the Vail image of the Golden
Peak area.
Please consider Mr. Riley's proposal a big plus for
us as owners, and for the town of Vail.
Sincerely,
Lowell C. Douglas
cc: Mr. Ron Riley
228 Bridge Street
Vail, CO 81657
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3500 N. Dl".CAILJR RD. SCOIFDAI-1 . (11 OItt;l,A 10071+ i-1011 -"1,)-355ti
Nolan Enterprises
0AL ESTATE INVESTMENT a DEVELOPMENT CO,
F'EBRUARY 25, 1988
To Whom it May Concern:
As the owner of units 305 & 307 of the Polden Peak House, We feel that
Mr. Riley has invested significant time, effort, and funds to develope a plan
for the Golden Peak House Lodge. We urge your carefull evaluation and
consideration of this plan and th9t'Mr Riley as a major owner, is attempting
• to upgrade our property. Thank You again for your help with this matter.
Very TrO-:y ,Yours
s e Nolan
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