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Home My WebLink About1998-12-15 Town Council Minutes• • C2 EQRK RFCRTC)N MTNT TTF.S Tuesday, December 15, 1998 2:00 P.M. Town of Vail Council Chambers What follows will reflect motions and actions taken by the Vail Town Council at their regular work session on December 15, 1998. All members were present. Item No. 3, Request to use Council contingency funds for permanent site for Mt. Buller (skier) donation. Nancy Sweeney, on behalf of AIPP, requested approval to utilize fiends from the 1998 Council contingency to permanently site the donated (skier) statue from Mt. Buller, Australia. Although the request was for over $19,000, Bob Armour moved to roll forward up to $15,000 from the 1998 Council contingency fund into 1999, with a second from Ludwig Kurz. In discussion it was asked to explore an alternative base material. A vote was taken and the motion passed 6-1, Mike Jewett in opposition. Item No. 9, Council Reports. Ludwig Kurz requested a matching contribution of up to $3,000 from 1998 Council contingency to fund a sponsorship grant for Channel 5 to highlight `99 events. Because Avon had already approved $3,000, Ludwig again requested the amount be raised from $2,000 to $3,000. Bob Armour then revised his motion with a second from Mike Arnett, to approve up to $3,000. A vote was taken and the motion passed unanimously, 7-0. 1 • VAIL TOWN COUNCIL - MINUTES • TUESDAY, DECEMBER 15. 1998 7:00 P.M. The regular meeting of the Vail Town Council was held in the Town Council Chambers on Tuesday, December 15, 1998. The meeting was called to order at approximately 7:00 P.M. COUNCIL MEMBERS PRESENT: Rob Ford, Mayor Ludwig Kurz, Mayor Pro-Tem Bob Armour Michael Arnett Kevin Foley Michael Jewett Sybill Navas STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: Bob McLaurin, Town Manager Tom Moorhead, Town Attorney Pam Brandmeyer, Assistant Town Manager The first item on the agenda was Citizen Participation. There was no citizen participation. The second item on the agenda was the consent agenda. A. Approve the Minutes of the meetings of November 3 and 17, 1998; • Council member Bob Armour made a motion to approve the minutes of the meetings of November 3 and 17, 1998, the motion was seconded by Council member Michael Arnett. Council member Sybill Navas stated there were two corrections or clarifications needed to the minutes. In the November 3, 1998 minutes, page 5, she wanted clarification of the specific wording on the height of the Civic Center building stated by Ethan Moore. Lorelei Donaldson, Town Clerk will review the tape and correct. Also, in the November 17, 1998 meeting minutes, Council member Sybill Navas stated her comment on page 10, third paragraph, needed to be rephrased to indicate she was responding to a comment made by Sally Jackie. Lorelei Donaldson, Town Clerk will review the tape and amend the minutes to reflect the changes. A vote was taken. The motion passed, 7-0, with changes as stated by Council member Sybill Navas. B. Resolution No. 16, Series of 1998, a Resolution designating an additional signer Susan Cody and removing signers Katie Laubengayer and Simone Spector on an imprest checking account for Library deposit transactions for the Town of Vail, permitted by the Charter of the Town, its ordinances, and the statutes of the State of Colorado. Council member Bob Armour made a motion to approve Resolution No. 16, Series of 1998, the motion was seconded by Council member Kevin Foley. A vote was taken. The motion passed, 7-0. C. Resolution No. 17, Series of 1998, a Resolution directing the Town Manager to enter into an Intergovernmental Agreement for Animal Control Services with Eagle County. • 1 Vail Town Council !)Kember 15, 1998 Meeting Minutes 17 . Series of 19g8, the ot�on to approve Resolution N0 Councii ice. made a m udwxg Ku'z "\.Iw °f s-fovin of Vail should Council m smsee��ed by C°uncd memberthe cost of tt\e ut<on, andon sf the a P4Qa ants within motion wa ensued regarclmg °sed to th's handled b 9 yrvice was not ion he is °Pp . hould be d the sereduce Further discus Sewn mat cto rot and Sard its high and down because sere st was ice was ice + the member Mike current °0 over this seN be handling the 1 said the cost has 9° town tdK-" Vie Town of Vail. stated the Vegardln9 the n Manag?r, al discussion osed_ 'Bob Mrk-810 ,Tow e addition ber M%e Swett oPp He said there co anecessarl . °e Repealing and 8-1, Council mem cll deem assed• an oche an Edltlon of the Colin motion P econd reading• ce 1998 euilding Co. de,,iildingshthe p vote was taken. The 19, `,ene off 99 p doP g Gd rLxesr ofi t end of1� ge he 1996 Ea io 4 of the Ore n6nQ -f itle 10. 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Subdivision, Nh�c Candit�ons and reason No,10, Series of 1982outdated p ve op e 1 m pele4n9 and Thereto' +t coin oellh g Subdlvlslon', D Reg that the CO o ldn find aGRF A t es e lots wo ri rth etads in n Planner. stated we d triat the ed at the work sess'o $ettin9 F° because o sar ask pomin'c M OTIONl othe tors inane uncils question that was orY of the loam mmen fromin response to nd description of the hilt rerA it different►Y the othert?Elac tpe 9,5n squa'e {ems ck9rou ed as equally a ave a brief ba Glen �Y°n' that th that daY ant g se lots t e smallest in e earlier the applies ewouldlike Would be s He ter tad a Commission P 1 Tim penningon gubdivisionsa the lot size R and Van Rid Environ ental emBerMn9Mnnules Gien %-V Ne also the common e Planning an Clots in the area the lots bane own staff and Va0011n co na a� t easements onsupP°rted by aPplicat on 1s F'O$LIC NOTICE vxCiL ��TINGS CANCEL ED pUETO 101 tL7A�' ° ttA5 t3EEN ecembe `� AY uesda D D v�ETU STttTtlt s5 work sassr°n............. ember 19 S By p, CA �10ELE a Dec Se" '4�lork ur noitca<ion. Please ca11479 2332 �O ce °r e pBghon available upon reQuest with 24 ho knt Sign lan0ua9 for informatwn 479-2356 fD • • 0 The meeting was adjourned at 8:55 p.m. and the application is consistent with other lots in the neighborhood. \\W11:11:IRIl91` Respeu m�oiH O' Council lotsember Bob Armour asked Tim about the number of Employee Housing Units (EHU) on the E A L - Tim said there would only be one EHU, not two, on the lots as the bridge does not allow access f Rob Ford and room to have two EHU's. He said the EHU would probably be on the west lot (Lot 39-1). Mayor �dm Cp�Op,pvs Council member Bob Armour asked if the applicant would have an issue if the town stipulated ""111 111yjjj4\\`u that an additional EHU be added to the lots. ATT Tim stated he didn't have a problem with the stipulation of an additional EHU being added. J? i Council member Bob Armour asked the staff why the bridge wouldn't allow two EHU's to be on l rele' onaldscn these lots versus one. Town lerk Dominic stated the Fire Department access and general access to these lots made it difficult for these lots to have three units on them plus an additional EHU. The current code allows them to have one EHU currently. Also, having a small bridge width made access difficult. Sherry Dorward, the Landscape Architect, explained that given the configuration of the lots, having a larger bridge would have meant a building the bridge on a curve, and it would have been limited in road width. She said the bridge is approximately 16 feet wide. Tom Moorhead, Town Attorney, asked Sherry if these lots could handle a total of four units, two main units with two EHU's. Sherry said the lots could handle the additional EHU. Andy Norris stated he was involved in the development of the Glen Lyon Subdivision and these lots. He said the GRFA was 10,731 square feet for these lots. Council member Sybill Navas asked if the GRFA figure they are asking for included the EHU and garages. Andy Norris stated that those figures have been included in total GRFA. He also said the original covenants for the subdivision named the Town as an enforcer of the covenants. The visual impacts, and a lot of studies were done on the lots to see how it affects the neighborhood. Sherry Donvard, said she was hired to work on this project 10 years ago. She explained how the site was developed and explained the concepts, building envelopes, roof lines, impacts and depth and mass of the project. Council member Ludwig Kurz asked 'I the photos were enhanced by additional landscaping. 10 Veil Town Council Minutes October 8, 1998 • 3 Vail Town Council December 15, 1998 Meeting Minutes 0 • Sherry said there is no landscaping added and the pictures showed the existing trees on tho lots. She said the lots were compatible with the neighborhood, and there are other large units in this area. This project is in character and size of the neighborhood. Council member Kevin Foley asked about access to Vail Mountain to this area. Dominic Mauriello said the access should not impact this site. Tom Moorhead stated the alternative route to the mountain is via Tract K and further up the mountain than this site and the impacts were found to be not significant. The process to change the covenants is still in process but this would not impact these lots. Council member Kevin Foley said he sees this as a stumbling block to getting snow cats up the mountain. Tim Pennington, the applicant, said he would have to look at the proposal. Council member Ludwig Kurz asked Tom about adding the second EHU to the lots and if this was an issue with the bridge access. Tom said based on what has been presented this evening, and the Town staff and Sherry Dorward agreeing that an additional EHU could be added, it could be done. However, there is no stipulation at this time to add a second EHU. Council member Mike Arnett said he agrees the size of the lots are in keeping with the neighborhood. With a small bridge there would be limited traffic and suggested the two EHU's GRFA come out of the total GRFA for the lot instead of adding GRFA to the total. Council member Bob Armour made a motion to approve Ordinance No. 23, Series of 1998 on first reading, with a requirement that each lot have an EHU with a minimum of 500 square feet each. The motion was seconded by Council member Sybill Navas. Further discussion ensued regarding the visibility of the buildings, landscaping requirements, and the GRFA requirements. Council member Mike Arnett asked Bob Armour if he would change the motion to add that Ordinance No. 23, Series of 1998 be approved with the change that GRFA for Lot 39-1 EHU, be subtracted from the total GRFA for the lots. Further discussion ensued on GRFA. Council member Bob Armour made a change in his motion to approve Ordinance No. 23, Series of 1998 with requirement that a Type II EHU be added to each lot, with up to 500 square feet of GRFA subtracted from the total GRFA and the motion was seconded by Council member Sybill Navas. Council member Mike Arnett thanked the whole team for all their hard work . 40 Jim Lamont, the East Village Homeowners Association (EVHOA) representative, said the master planning process is a learning process. As painful and tedious as it is, it is a learning process. The growth issue and Lionshead was an issue in the past. The important thing to remember is this process will be giving a shot in the arm to Lionshead, the GRFA will stay, and he reminded Council that GRFA has nothing to do with the designs of the buildings. This plan does have to do with GRFA and zoning and reinvesting in Lionshead. Their sacrifices would be rewarded in value and investments. He applauds the Council in their efforts to learn and support this proposal. The EVHOA has participated in this process because they believe it is tied to the economic success of Vail. He thanked the Council for allowing the EVHOA to participate. Dave Corbin, a representative of Vail Associates, thanked the survivors of the process, particularly the town staff, Ethan Moore, Design Workshop and Council for their time and efforts in this process. He looks forward to the zoning and implementation process. Council member Mike Arnett made a motion to adopt Resolution No. 14, Series of 1998, with the changes made and the motion was seconded by Council member Bob Armour. Council member Ludwig Kurz made a comment he would have wholeheartedly seconded the motion. He said this was a momentous occasion because the time and effort put in by neighbors, Council, staff and consultants now gives the town a framework to revitalize Lionshead and bring up the standards to compete with other competitors and thanked staff and • the team to help Council stay informed. Council member Kevin Foley said this has been a long process and thanked everyone for their participation. He said the public good needs to be maintained and expressed that everyone he has spoken to in Lionshead is excited about this plan. 4 Vall Town Council December 15, 1998 Meeting Minutes , • Council member Bob Armour said he appreciates the comments from Jim Lamont. The town did get closer during this process and the spirit and determination is for the good of the community. A vote was taken, and the motion passed, 7-0. The ninth item on the agenda was a discussion of the Ford Park Managed Parking. This item was tabled to the January 5, 1998 meeting. The tenth item on the agenda was the Town Manager's Report. There was nothing further to report. As there was no further business, a motion was made by Council member Mike Arnett to adjourn the meeting and was seconded by Council member Kevin Foley. A vote was taken and the motion passed unanimously, 7-0. Vall Town Council Deoen%er 15, 1999 Meeting Minutes • fine but the minors are scheduled to attend an alcohol class. He is seeing this behavior in Breckenridge also. Mayor Rob Ford asked the judge if state law takes care of this issue. Judge Buck Allen said it does but it goes to the district court system in Eagle County and this ordinance will amend the procedure so that minors in Vail go through our municipal court system. He also said this ordinance is for young persons walking around town intoxicated, not for people carrying around an open container. Mayor Rob Ford said he wants to make progress on this issue, and get the community on board with activities for these young people. Greg Morrison said this ordinance is not an either/or situation, minors will still drink. Buck Allen said ideas for alternative activities are good but this also needs to be addressed in Denver because most of these kids are from the front range on New Year's Eve and 4th of July. Council member Bob Armour asked if it's illegal to drink, carry or buy alcohol under the age of 21. Buck Allen said yes it is illegal. Council member Bob Armour made a motion to approve Ordinance No. 20, Series of 1998 on second reading, the motion was seconded by Council member Ludwig Kurz. Council member Ludwig Kurz explained he seconded the motion not loosely or hardheartedly, he doesn't see that this ordinance will change any day-to-day enforcement, however, if the town doesn't get a handle on this issue, the town will be doing a disservice rather than a service to the community. Resorts have died from lack of people we want to have come to Vail. A part of this is to provide activities. This ordinance will be beneficial rather than a negative impact. Council member Sybil] Navas said she agrees but we need to provide what the kids need. There is a certain sensitivity needed to dissuade them instead of prosecute them. The town needs a variety of tools to handle this issue. A vote was taken. The motion passed, 5-2, Council members Kevin Foley and Mike Arnett against. The eighth item on the agenda was the Lionshead Redevelopment Master Plan and Resolution No. 14, Series of 1998. The Lionshead Master Plan Team is seeking final adoption of the Lionshead Redevelopment Master Plan with the implementing Resolution No. 14, Series of 1998. Mayor Rob Ford stated for the public that this process has been on -going for 2-112 years. Council's concerns from the work session have been addressed. Further discussion ensued regarding GRFA and the addition of the second EHU. • Council member Kevin Foley suggested adding the 500 additional square feet for the second EHU added to the total GRFA. He doesn't want to penalize the applicant. Council member Ludwig Kurz stated the second EHU GRFA should be included in the original square footage allowed. Council member Sybill Navas said there will be an impact on the skier bridge, but the applicant is getting more than twice as much GRFA as there was before. Council member Mike Jewett stated he is still unclear about the motion. Council member Bob Armour said the motion is that two EHU's be on the lots with an additional garage credit and the GRFA for the EHU's be included in the total GRFA of the lots. A vote was taken. The motion passed, 7-0. The fourth item on the agenda was second reading of Ordinance No. 18, Series of 1998, second reading of an Ordinance making Supplemental Appropriations from the Town of Vail Booth Creek Bond Fund and Health Insurance Fund, of the 1998 Budget and the Financial Plan for the Town of Vail, Colorado; and Authorizing the Expenditures of Said Appropriations as Set Forth Herein; and Setting Forth Details in Regard Thereto. • Steve Thompson, Finance Director, stated the Council has passed two supplemental appropriations for 1998. This is the final supplemental appropriation. No additional appropriation will be needed in the General Fund since the full budgeted transfer for the Red Sandstone housing project won't be used, this project won't be complete by December 31, 1998. . 8 Vail Town council December 15, 1990 Meeting Minutes ' • Council member Ludwig Kurz asked why there were two Ordinance No. 18 in their council packet, and why they are different. Steve Thompson clarified the changes saying there were changes of the reallocation of the transfer of funds. Council member Sybill Navas made a motion to approve Ordinance No. 18, Series of 1998 on second reading, the motion was seconded by Council member Bob Armour. A vote was taken. The motion passed, 6-0. Council member Mike Arnett was not in the room for the vote. The fifth item on the agenda was second reading of Ordinance No. 21, Series of 1998, authorizing the Conveyance of Fee Title to the Following Land Owned by the Town of Vail: A parcel of land situated in Government Lot 3, Section 7, Township 5 South, Range 80 West of the Sixth Principal Meridian, County of Eagle, State of Colorado, being more particularly described as follows: Vail Town Council December 15, 1998 Meeting Minutes 1.� the t`iarlh yin 0 Thence along 59°1240" of said Lot Of 229, South -76 blass eaP at Corner c of 20fi.01 feet, a distance f 8.42 feet "I t atlNagh a �41'00" Thence North $$a0000" ea sta dista�xhibit A attaehed� inning East, said Lat 3, 74 feet, more or less, tree of s oof sad Lot 3• Thence Norkh 00 East, a distance 2394 sa� ft. � wits the Wesk line Containing ether, and to the Of i3e9fnviin9.d bendy S. Ra dialing in 9p0 croachm nts to the Point er an n has been neg now have en For Service To Paul E• Raath residents States said the ; rid where what was United Moorhead, ToWa e Roadto c e veY the for on -VOMRocide g ckledg aed \ands• ublla- residenasbuffer between R0 Mail own uncil or the P n °f Town Go 1, Series of os taken create asked by 2 now are T No• p vats wa lands and uestions rove Ordinance our additional q motion to aPP emi�er gob Arm There were no made a Matt by Council m against, seco Foley ag 22, series of 1g98, ie ber Ludwig Kurz el. Kevin d the Eag Council mein the M1tinCo nail mein of ordinance N0. of Vad an second reading• second reading etween the Tom rath P.NI. Motion Passed The end � do Easement by and BT b S R, 79 item on the Vance Lot 9, sec.18,e process as Ordinance NO 21 Series of The sixth e Cdonani atwn District on authoriim9 is the Barn River Water and Taw orneY, said this NO.22, Series of "a8 on n Alt rove OrdinanCa . ayes. A vote Tom moorhen to approve Mbar SYblll N $ above. e a motion unCil men 998, 199 ad Go series °f BOb Armour m seconded by ce No. 20, that it shall be Council member the motion w0 rdinan vail to ferm second re m ion Passed, 7 was sec°a Cread\ngode ° heOarr n sfP°sseSs on any ented malt Th taken. on the agenda have item 0 of the Munic121 years to The geyBn$ection 9 34 Ou der the age Of nd thereto. amending any Person details in re9 Of this ordinance• uestions- unla` 1ul for d sett'rrg forlri the second reading were no q beverage that this Is the public. 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